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| Addison | Greetings everyone. :o) | 00:36 |
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| szopeen | yo addi | 00:52 |
| Addison | Hiya chief! | 00:53 |
| Addison | How are you? :o) | 00:53 |
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| szopeen | good, though gonna spend friday evening on ghhhkhbuntu 12.04 boot-trying, so prolly makes me foreveralone.jpg | 00:54 |
| szopeen | how about yourself? | 00:55 |
| Addison | I'm doing great. Thanks for asking. :o) | 00:55 |
| szopeen | you getting my /msgs? | 00:57 |
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| narcos | Hey all. | 11:12 |
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| narcos | I upgraded to power-kernel50 from a previous version, but it's caused some problems, and I'd like to revert. What's the best way to do this? I upgraded by doing a 'apt-get update' and then installing power-kernel from HAM | 11:14 |
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| Sicelo | narcos: you can downgrade to stock kernel, then upgrade to your chosen kernel | 11:16 |
| narcos | Sicelo: Ahhh | 11:16 |
| Sicelo | you can also just downgrade in one step using apt-get (if you're brave) :) | 11:16 |
| narcos | heh | 11:17 |
| narcos | I'm bravae | 11:17 |
| narcos | *brave | 11:17 |
| narcos | Rather - how tricky is the downgrade to stock process? | 11:17 |
| Sicelo | then apt-get install .. you need 3 packages, kernel-power, kernel-power-modules, kernel-power-flasher | 11:17 |
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| narcos | The above 3 packages are already at the newest version | 11:19 |
| * narcos finds http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power#Deinstallation | 11:20 | |
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| Sicelo | apt-get install kernel-power=1:2.6.28-10power49 ..... | 11:22 |
| Sicelo | btw, what problems does KP50 give you? | 11:23 |
| narcos | Sicelo: Injection drivers for the wireless don't load | 11:23 |
| Sicelo | iirc you need new modules or something like that.. check in TMO | 11:23 |
| narcos | Sicelo: Is there a way to determine what power-kernel version I previously had? | 11:23 |
| narcos | I think it was 40 | 11:23 |
| narcos | But I'm not certain | 11:24 |
| Sicelo | i don't think that's possilbe .. not absolutely sure though | 11:24 |
| narcos | Hmm - lemme check the chan log, I think I may have mentioned it before | 11:26 |
| Sicelo | repos have 50, 49, 42, 37, and 24 | 11:26 |
| narcos | Guess I'll try 42 - it is a magic number and all | 11:29 |
| narcos | So, apt-get install kernel-power=1:2.6.28-10power42 ? | 11:30 |
| Sicelo | apt-get install kernel-power=2.6.28-maemo42 kernel-power-modules=2.6.28-maemo42 kernel-power-flasher=2.6.28-maemo42 | 11:33 |
| narcos | ta | 11:35 |
| * narcos holds thumbs | 11:35 | |
| narcos | Doh @ super slow GRPS connection on the phone | 11:35 |
| narcos | Sicelo: Process finished - I just reboot now? | 11:40 |
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| narcos | Sicelo: Success :) Down to 42 | 11:53 |
| * narcos tries packet injection drivers now | 11:53 | |
| narcos | Oi, a whole new set of errors | 11:57 |
| * narcos will go find food and ponder | 11:57 | |
| narcos | Thanks for the help Sicelo ! | 11:58 |
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| zeq | narcos: are you certain KP doesn't have injection drivers by default? Just a thought, haven't checked. | 12:05 |
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| Sicelo | no, not by default.. | 12:10 |
| Sicelo | i just think he didn't need to downgrade.. especially to 42 :/ | 12:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I guess zeq was right | 12:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | AIUI just the generic instructions how to install and load injection drivers simply don't match kp50 which comes with them already? | 12:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | so following instructions how to install 42 drivers of course would result in "doesn't load drivers" | 12:25 |
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| * RST38h yawns, greets Doc | 12:33 | |
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| Macer | hm | 13:45 |
| Macer | weird.. my sim seems to have started working again | 13:45 |
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| Macer | well... sim reader | 13:46 |
| Macer | odd | 13:46 |
| Macer | oh well lol | 13:46 |
| Macer | it hasn't messed up all day | 13:46 |
| Macer | i'm sure i have spoken too soon but still :) | 13:47 |
| Vib3 | hi | 13:48 |
| Vib3 | triend to send sms via script | 13:48 |
| Vib3 | but says -> ImportError: No module named QtMobility.Messaging | 13:48 |
| Vib3 | I installed just -> python-qtmobility.messaging and python-qtmobility12.messaging | 13:49 |
| Vib3 | what packet is needed? :o | 13:49 |
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| Vib3 | found deps but now ssms.py segfaulting.. | 14:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | are you sure you're talking on right channel? sounds like you mix up fremantle and harmattan | 14:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you are using a N9 (or 950) then you should /join #harmattan. If N900 is your device, I dunno if the qt-mobility approach applies at a ll | 14:14 |
| Vib3 | hi Doc, using n900 :) | 14:16 |
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| Vib3 | that is segfaulting -> http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Send_SMS | 14:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh, I've been wrong it seems: http://wiki.maemo.org/Phone_control#Send_SMS | 14:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah :-) | 14:17 |
| Vib3 | :) | 14:18 |
| Vib3 | Python 2.5.4 | 14:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway I sugest the 2nd approach there ;-D | 14:18 |
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| Vib3 | ok, its shorter :p | 14:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | third one is probably most clean one, and in line with dbus-centric concept of fremantle | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | while 2nd one will probably send SMS that don't even show up in messages history | 14:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | pnatd directly talks to modem, bypassing all fremantle framework that usually handles conversations | 14:21 |
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| Vib3 | ok | 14:28 |
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| Vib3 | sent sms to own number, did't see anything to appear with 2nd example | 14:29 |
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| Vib3 | had typo :p | 14:30 |
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| Vib3 | now need to learn python to set up params :F | 14:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | err | 14:31 |
| Vib3 | to make that script more efficent | 14:32 |
| jonwil | I think the DBUS method of sending SMSs is the best way to go | 14:32 |
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| Vib3 | thats so long script :p | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | import getopt, sys | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | try: | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | opts, args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:],"hlt:", ["help","listen","time="]) | 14:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | number = args[0] | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | msg = args[1] | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | jonwil: ack | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | and Hi! | 14:34 |
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| Vib3 | 14:39 | |
| Vib3 | hmm says -> | 14:39 |
| Vib3 | number = args[0] | 14:39 |
| Vib3 | ^ | 14:39 |
| Vib3 | SyntaxError: invalid syntax | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 14:39 |
| Vib3 | should that "try:" be there? :p | 14:40 |
| Vib3 | or was it just to me to try it | 14:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can't c&p the few lines above, they were just a quote what'S doing the argument parsing in the exampe #3 in phonecontrol | 14:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | the "try:" is a part of an exception catcher construct in python | 14:41 |
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| Vib3 | ok | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | it needs "except:" for when "try:" fails | 14:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that's why "number =" is a syntax error at lat position, at thet indentation level | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/*/that/. | 14:42 |
| Vib3 | hmm my n900 is so slowwwwww, uptime 17 days.. | 14:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | killall browserd | 14:44 |
| Vib3 | even I have CSSU community | 14:44 |
| Vib3 | thx, faster now :p | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | import getopt, sys | 14:45 |
| Vib3 | that should be added to CSSU | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | try: | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | opts, args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:],"hlt:", ["help","listen","time="]) | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | 14:45 | |
| DocScrutinizer | except getopt.GetoptError, err: | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | # print help information and exit: | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | print str(err) # will print something like "option -a not recognized" | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | usage() | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | sys.exit(2) | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry for spam | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | don't learn from my nasty habit | 14:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-) | 14:46 |
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| Vib3 | yea, I was just about to use pastebin :p | 14:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway that's a proper arg parser | 14:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | after that ' number = args[0] ' should work | 14:48 |
| Vib3 | ok | 14:49 |
| Vib3 | how do I use variables in perl? child.send('$msg') ? | 14:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | WAAAH perl | 14:51 |
| Vib3 | yea, perl guy here :p | 14:52 |
| Vib3 | never done python as you can see... :D:D: | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | python is quite simple, all you have to know is it strictly uses indentation as a code structure element | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | which makes it particularly unsuited for pasting code snippets to wiki | 14:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | or IRC ;-P | 14:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, there's another interesting aspect with python: you can tell from the line >> opts, args = getopt.getopt(... << | 14:55 |
| Vib3 | yeap :p | 14:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | functions can return quite complex results | 14:55 |
| Vib3 | but how do I use that 'msg' variable in that 'child.send' ? was that correct? | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | nfc, that's perl :-) | 14:56 |
| Vib3 | hmm without that '$' | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | the question how to use python vars in perl is... err... | 14:57 |
| Vib3 | no its python script :p | 14:57 |
| Vib3 | editing that ssms.py script | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | in python a var is a var | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | fobar=2 | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | fobar = fobar + 4 | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | foofunc(fobar) | 14:58 |
| Vib3 | ok so -> child.send(msg); | 14:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | looks ok'ish | 14:59 |
| Vib3 | yea | 15:00 |
| Vib3 | how about this? -> child.send('at+cmgs=number\r'); | 15:00 |
| Vib3 | how to separate that number variable from string text :p | 15:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's sending a string const you defined in place | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, sth along: arg = 'at+cmgs=' % number | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet this was wrong | 15:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | string operators are quite obscure for me in python | 15:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | maybe >> myarg = "at+cmgs=" | 15:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | myarg.concat(number.string) | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | no clue really, as you can tell from this^^^ | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway in python basically everything is an object, with associated methods | 15:05 |
| Vib3 | hmm | 15:06 |
| Vib3 | didn't work -> number = 'at+cmgs=' % args[0] % '\r' | 15:06 |
| vdv | n900 question. is there any way to schedule an action when internet connection (3G, wlan) becomes active? i know how to do it when phone connected via usb, i can add commands in pcsuite-enable and pcsuite-disable | 15:07 |
| Vib3 | think it needs '\r' to end | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | vdv: check ifup | 15:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>> print(str) | 15:10 |
| vdv | DocScrutinizer, is this a shell script? | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ATtest= | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>> str=str + "ABC" | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>> print(str) | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ATtest=ABC | 15:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | vdv: I think this is a (shell) cmd that invokes additions stuff if existing | 15:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | just a starting point where to look | 15:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe not even a good one | 15:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>> str=str + 5 | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | Traceback (most recent call last): | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects | 15:12 |
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| vdv | DocScrutinizer, ok, thanks | 15:14 |
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| RST38h | Doc: Are you teaching him Ruby? | 15:14 |
| RST38h | Doc: Are you teaching yourself Ruby | 15:14 |
| RST38h | Is it the end of the world? | 15:14 |
| vdv | DocScrutinizer, ifup just activates a connection on given interface | 15:15 |
| Termana | One day you mention you'll probably go to Android for your next device and the next your writing Ruby | 15:17 |
| Termana | It's a dangerous gateway I tells ya | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: just playing a bit with python :-) | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>> str=str+num.__str__() | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>> print(str) | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | ATtest=ABC5 | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | num=5; obviously | 15:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet a few python savvy coders just went vomiting | 15:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | my last python coding is like 12 years ago | 15:21 |
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| Vib3 | DocScrutinizer: by this string prints fine but doesn't work -> number = "at+cmgs=" + args[0] + "\r" | 15:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | err | 15:30 |
| Vib3 | but doesn't show "\r" ofcourse, mayve child.send needs it | 15:30 |
| Vib3 | * maybe | 15:31 |
| * DocScrutinizer glares at "\r" | 15:31 | |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, no. should work | 15:32 |
| Vib3 | but doesn't, using also -> child.send(number); | 15:32 |
| Vib3 | child.send(msg); | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | use ' instead " | 15:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | might make a diff | 15:32 |
| Vib3 | k | 15:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nope | 15:33 |
| Vib3 | hmmm | 15:34 |
| Vib3 | what a pain.. | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | \r means carriage return and that's what it does | 15:34 |
| Vib3 | hmm so it needs to be passed to child.send | 15:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | print('123\rx') | 15:34 |
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| Vib3 | yea | 15:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | anyway pnatd is using generic AT interface of cellmo, so you need exactly the right format for that string | 15:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you could invoke pnatd on shell directly, this will show you the result msgs from modem | 15:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | beware! you need a "killall pnatd" in another shell to quit | 15:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Vib3: I see you omitted the " around <number> in your string construction | 15:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | depending on AT parser this may or even will fail | 15:54 |
| Vib3 | yea, that comes from php :p | 15:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | number = 'at+cmgs="' + args[0] + '"\r' | 15:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | just for best practice, even: | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | number = 'AT+CMGS="' + args[0] + '"\r' | 15:57 |
| Vib3 | that worked, missed that " and ' was needed to together | 15:57 |
| Vib3 | that was cos of \r ? | 15:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | number = 'AT+CMGS="' + args[0].replace('+', '00') + '"\r' | 15:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | my toenails curl on that 0 in args[0] | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, that's c | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | *that comes from* | 16:02 |
| Vib3 | c <3 | 16:03 |
| Vib3 | python :F | 16:03 |
| Vib3 | yak | 16:03 |
| Vib3 | DocScrutinizer: thx m8)! | 16:05 |
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| LaoLang_cool | I want the camera button to run xterm when the lens cover is on, is it possible? | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 16:06 |
| kerio | camkeyd can be configured i think | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think it's named shortcutd or sth like that | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | or that | 16:06 |
| kerio | but why would you want to lose the awesome default of task-switching? | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe because awesome taskswitching is on <ctrl>+<bs> already? | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, then OTOH awesome xterm is on errr shift+ctrl-x? | 16:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (<Vib3> that was cos of \r ?) nope, that was because of syntax of that AT cmd is >> AT+CMGS=<string> << and sting in AT is >> "[char]..." <<< | 16:12 |
| Vib3 | DocScrutinizer: so 00$countrycode works also when calling? forget that "$" | 16:12 |
| LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: hard to type shift-ctrl-x... | 16:12 |
| Vib3 | ok | 16:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I think in GSM "00" is common countrycode prefix, not sure about that "+" | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | fire up pnatd and test it! ;-D | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | ATD+180012345678 vs ATD00180012345678 | 16:16 |
| Vib3 | worked also :p | 16:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess both will work | 16:16 |
| Macer | hm | 16:17 |
| Macer | N900 is still going | 16:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: need help how to fix this annoying status? | 16:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-P | 16:17 |
| * DocScrutinizer offers the sledgehammer | 16:18 | |
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| Macer | damn | 16:29 |
| Macer | lol | 16:29 |
| Macer | diD speak too soon | 16:30 |
| Macer | damn sim cut off again :) | 16:30 |
| Macer | ah well | 16:30 |
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| jpinx | just reflashed successfully, didn't realise that it has to reboot if you change locales | 16:41 |
| * DocScrutinizer waves and ->afk | 16:46 | |
| Vib3 | bye Doc! | 16:47 |
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| Vib3 | is it possible to use #31# when calling from dbus? | 17:16 |
| joga | dunno but if you're typing that on the command line, make sure to escape the part with the '#' so it doesn't turn the rest of the line into a comment ;) | 17:18 |
| joga | or, er, quote it I mean | 17:19 |
| joga | though I guess either would work...anyway | 17:19 |
| joga | it's very nice to be able to control the phone so well I think, I've sometimes scheduled wake up calls with it so it makes a call to my gf and turns the speaker on, I might still be sleeping but she'll wake up ;) (she's abroad currently) | 17:22 |
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| Vib3 | k, hehe :p | 17:33 |
| Vib3 | when put #31# before said problem with number | 17:33 |
| Vib3 | its funny when setting number to hidden and calling from dbus, number shows up still | 17:34 |
| Vib3 | but DocScrutinizer might know more | 17:34 |
| joga | yeah seems like you can't add it there just like that..tried | 17:35 |
| Vib3 | installed starhash enabler but still didn't work | 17:36 |
| Vib3 | maybe cos its just #31# | 17:36 |
| joga | Vib3 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66420 | 17:37 |
| jonwil | How are you dialing this call? | 17:37 |
| jonwil | yeah that thread makes sense | 17:37 |
| jonwil | if you go through Teleapthy and not through com.nokia.CSD.call it will work better | 17:38 |
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| Vib3 | hmmm, python again :F | 17:39 |
| jonwil | special things like #31# don't go through com.nokia.CSD.call, they go through com.nokia.CSD.SS | 17:39 |
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| Vib3 | ok | 17:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | *#-enabler doesn't affect anything here, it just sets some flag relevant for stock dialer to allow processing of Supplementary Service Codes | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | AT interface won't accept SSC rich "numbers" | 17:48 |
| joga | are there any especially interesting service codes by the way? | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | quite a couple | 17:49 |
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| joga | I've never really needed them much myself so I can't really remember them, had to check what the #31# stood for | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.mobilemania.de/facts+infos/gsmcodes.php | 17:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.gsmcodes-online.de/Anrufsperren/anrufsperren.html | 17:50 |
| joga | now that I look at that I think the only one I've actually had a proper use for was for forwarding | 17:51 |
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| joga | maybe a vague memory of a conference call years ago, not sure :) | 17:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://www.geckobeach.com/cellular/secrets/gsmcodes.php (note that all 3-digit codes are USSD, not SSC. they aren't standardized in any way and defined by your provider) | 18:03 |
| Vib3 | hmm that says -> NameError: global name 'sbus' is not defined | 18:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | DANG! >>made excuses instead of owning responsibility for less than standard package<< >>Item was advertized as "brand new", but I received a refurbished phone.<< http://www.ebay.de/itm/New-Nokia-N900-3G-32GB-WIFI-GPS-WVGA-5MP-Carl-Zeiss-QWERTY-SmartPhone-/190638186050?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2c62ebde42 | 18:13 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: yeah, I was going to order a backup N900 a month or two ago, then noticed they're all frauds | 18:25 |
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| Vib3 | hmm getting with that python calling script -> http://pastebin.com/kcpDiXpf | 18:34 |
| Vib3 | how should that sbus be defined? | 18:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I guess that's a typo | 18:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/d | 18:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | which raises the question: should dbus be defined? | 18:39 |
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| Vib3 | idk | 18:40 |
| Vib3 | now it says -> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'get_object' | 18:40 |
| Vib3 | hmm it should be maybe just "bus" :p | 18:41 |
| Vib3 | yeap | 18:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | this is no proper python program, just a excerpt snippet | 18:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | import dbus \n bus = dbus.SystemBus() \n foobar = bus.get_object('com.nokia.phone.SMS',..... | 18:46 |
| Vib3 | yea got it working | 18:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | s/bus =/sbus =/ | 18:49 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: import dbus \n sbus = dbus.SystemBus() \n foobar = bus.get_object('com.nokia.phone.SMS',..... | 18:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/ bus/ sbus/ | 18:51 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: import dbus \n sbus = dbus.SystemBus() \n foobar = bus.get_object('com.nokia.phone.SMS',..... | 18:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/ bus/ sbus/g | 18:51 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: import dbus \n sbus = dbus.SystemBus() \n foobar = sbus.get_object('com.nokia.phone.SMS',..... | 18:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | dang | 18:51 |
| Vib3 | ding dong | 18:52 |
| Vib3 | now script calls from hidden number :p | 18:52 |
| Vib3 | thx joga and Doc | 18:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | so post it to that friggin tmo thread! | 18:52 |
| Vib3 | its there | 18:53 |
| Vib3 | just need to make some fixes | 18:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | not there | 18:54 |
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| Vib3 | hmm but it needs still fixing :p | 18:56 |
| Vib3 | imo | 18:56 |
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| Macer | heh | 19:16 |
| Macer | i wish this damn windows phone has telepathy | 19:16 |
| Macer | :) | 19:16 |
| Macer | if there is one thing i limed the most about maemo it was telepathy | 19:16 |
| Robot101 | :D | 19:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you limed it? did it help? | 19:32 |
| vdv | i'm trying to create a deb package for n900 in scratchbox. inspite debian dir inside of the dir with sources contains all necessary files, generate deb file is empty | 19:33 |
| vdv | i've created a package with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b -uc | 19:33 |
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| vdv | and used this howto: http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Package_Building_HOWTO | 19:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: I fully agree on telepathy being a PITA | 19:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | the ultimate solution to problems we never had before ;-) | 19:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | while inventing a whole new class of generic problems | 19:41 |
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| Macer | well. actually. compared to most apps that do the same it isnt bad at all | 19:46 |
| Macer | i always thought it worked quite well. even kn m4 | 19:47 |
| Macer | in | 19:47 |
| Macer | damn vkb | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | modulo telepathy is no app at all | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's a meta-meta-meta API for "communication" | 19:50 |
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| konur | hello | 19:52 |
| konur | is there anyone there? | 19:52 |
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| konur | hi | 19:52 |
| konur | is there anyone | 19:52 |
| konur | ? | 19:52 |
| Sicelo | yes... ? | 19:52 |
| konur | oh hello | 19:53 |
| konur | i have a n900 | 19:53 |
| konur | and i seek a littlşe help | 19:53 |
| konur | little | 19:53 |
| konur | can you help me? | 19:53 |
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| Sicelo | ~ask | 19:53 |
| infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 19:53 |
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| Sicelo | ah, it works, lol | 19:53 |
| konur | ok than | 19:54 |
| konur | i just installed kernel_power | 19:54 |
| r00t|home | "or against our will." lol | 19:54 |
| konur | this morning it was working great but i broke it and flashed the phone | 19:54 |
| konur | and now i'm installing the power kernel | 19:54 |
| konur | but i cant find the file @ /etc/default/kernel-power | 19:55 |
| konur | to change my clock settings | 19:55 |
| Sicelo | yeah r00t|home .. i always found that line kewl ;) | 19:55 |
| konur | any ideas how can i get this configuration file? | 19:56 |
| Macer | DocScrutinizer: well. i meant telepathy+conversations | 19:56 |
| Sicelo | konur: i also have kernel-power. i dont have that file. what is the 'real' problem you have? | 19:56 |
| Macer | not sure what the telepathy client for m4 was called | 19:56 |
| konur | i was changing my clock settings from that config file | 19:56 |
| konur | but i can't find the file | 19:57 |
| konur | and it should be there i mean i used it a lot of times | 19:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | it comes with KP-config | 19:57 |
| konur | this is an app right? | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | which I consider a deprecated tool anyway | 19:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 19:58 |
| Macer | uhm. is scottland called something else? | 19:59 |
| Macer | usps doesnt seem to ship to scottland | 19:59 |
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| Macer | do they use uk post or something? | 19:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | deprecated, since it makes messing with guts of kernel way too easy for noobs with no idea what they're doing | 19:59 |
| Macer | lol | 19:59 |
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| konur | well how can i get this kp-config | 20:00 |
| Macer | those damn noobs | 20:00 |
| konur | ? | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | I suppose via appmanager | 20:00 |
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| konur | but i can't find it there | 20:00 |
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| konur | yes i can't find this kp-config | 20:03 |
| konur | :S | 20:03 |
| konur | 20:05 | |
| wesk77 | kernel-power-settings | 20:06 |
| konur | i installed that one | 20:07 |
| konur | but i still don't have the file | 20:07 |
| Sicelo | ah.. so when he says clock he means clock speed, lol.. i was still wondering how kernel-power has settings for 'clock' | 20:08 |
| konur | :) | 20:08 |
| wesk77 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Kernel_Power#Use_of_kernel-config | 20:09 |
| Vib3 | is it possible to listen music while making a phone call? | 20:10 |
| konur | i know that page | 20:10 |
| konur | i installed the kernel by this instructions | 20:10 |
| konur | but still no luck | 20:11 |
| konur | uname -r says i have the power kernel but i don't have config files | 20:11 |
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| Vib3 | DocScrutinizer: is it possible to listen music while making a phone call? | 20:12 |
| Vib3 | or to play audio file to call | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | but tricky | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | check what recall does | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | it at least records both steams | 20:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | for playback to those streams you need sth similar | 20:14 |
| konur | 20:15 | |
| DocScrutinizer | higher arcane PA spells | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | konur: you probably need to create that file, by startung the config app | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | I don't think it gets "installed" | 20:17 |
| konur | yeah you may be right and i figured it just seconds ago and i created same file in home/.kernel | 20:20 |
| konur | and i will edit it from there and load it | 20:20 |
| konur | it should work | 20:20 |
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| konur | conky says its working :) | 20:30 |
| konur | but i wonder after a reboot | 20:31 |
| Vib3 | DocScrutinizer: ok, hmmm not easy one.. | 20:33 |
| konur | thank you a zillion time | 20:34 |
| konur | i've figured out how it works good day | 20:34 |
| konur | :) | 20:34 |
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| RST38h | N900 refuses to mount /home/user/MyDocs. What do I do? | 22:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | refuses to mount? how? | 22:18 |
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| RST38h | After I reboot the device, there is nothing there but DCIM directory | 22:19 |
| RST38h | have to mount manually | 22:19 |
| RST38h | btw, the external sd card does not show up either | 22:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | CSSU? | 22:21 |
| RST38h | Is it CSSU? | 22:21 |
| RST38h | yes, I have cssu | 22:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | get most recent update | 22:21 |
| RST38h | no updates shown | 22:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | ask freemangordon where to get his fixed ke-recv from | 22:22 |
| RST38h | WTF? | 22:22 |
| RST38h | So, now latest CSSU breaks all storage? | 22:22 |
| RST38h | And that is "ok"? | 22:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | not afaik, it just fails on some particular configs aiui | 22:22 |
| RST38h | mghm | 22:23 |
| RST38h | Is there any instruction on what to do? | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | aen't you on #maemo-ssu as well? | 22:23 |
| RST38h | yes | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | so read your backscroll, I'm not entirely sure what's the problem, I just can say I upgraded to latest T yesterday and all seems just fine for my device | 22:24 |
| RST38h | I do not have backscroll | 22:27 |
| RST38h | Anyway, what version are you running? | 22:28 |
| RST38h | 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo3.1 here | 22:30 |
| RST38h | Mghm...even when I manually mount MyDocs, I still cannot access it via USB | 22:31 |
| RST38h | ii ke-recv 3.19-15 | 22:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | same here | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | are you sure you haven't plugged it in to USB? | 22:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | PCsuite-mode would pretty much explain it | 22:52 |
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| RST38h | Doc: I am selecting masst storagemode of course | 22:53 |
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| Vib3 | hi | 22:55 |
| Vib3 | hmm trying to install sendmail | 22:55 |
| Vib3 | but says -> | 22:56 |
| Vib3 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 22:56 |
| Vib3 | sendmail-bin: Depends: sendmail-base but it is not going to be installed | 22:56 |
| Vib3 | Depends: sendmail-cf but it is not going to be installed | 22:56 |
| Vib3 | E: Broken packages | 22:56 |
| valdyn | Vib3: why would you want sendmail? | 22:56 |
| valdyn | !sendmail | 22:56 |
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| Vib3 | just wanna send mail with script | 22:57 |
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| valdyn | Vib3: then you dont want sendmail | 22:57 |
| Vib3 | k, didn't find postfix | 22:57 |
| Vib3 | valdyn: what I want then? | 22:58 |
| valdyn | Vib3: iirc mutt can send mail alone | 22:58 |
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| Vib3 | ok, I will check it | 23:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: yup, exactly what I meant | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry, I'm not focused today | 23:30 |
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