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| MrPingu | Well something totally different; What are the most challenging and well build games for the N900? I mean I really enjoy frogatto, brainparty and colorflood. All are smooth and nice, but theres also "junk" in the repos. Anyone knows a good and challenging timekiller for the N900? | 00:37 |
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| SpeedEvil | I spent way too much time on angry birds. | 00:38 |
| SpeedEvil | - though no longer available | 00:39 |
| tadzik | MrPingu: Mahjong is a killer timekiller for me | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually the only game I ever used for >30min is numpty physics | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | I think the game I played for the most time other than AB was nethack | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | but that was the console version | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | and maybe occasionally a minesweeper ;-P | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Oh! | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | I wore out a protector playing 'blocks' | 00:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah yes, this | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | too, occasionally | 00:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | but then I'm no games fanatic | 00:41 |
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| MrPingu | Aaah I hate my wireless =/ | 00:48 |
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| MrPingu | Thanks for the suggestions :) Angry birds seems a good time killer for me! | 00:49 |
| MrPingu | I don't play a lot on N900 but I like games that are mobile; pick up and play and quit fast when needed. Not that you need to rush to a savepoint for example :P | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | for that minesweeper and tetris are probably excellent | 00:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or the acme puzzlemaster | 00:54 |
| SpeedEvil | AB isn't available anymore though | 00:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | weird enough | 00:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I wonder if you could get it back by flashing PR1.0 plus first vanilla | 00:58 |
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| MrPingu | Strange, maybe google still have it... | 00:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | then upload to rapidshare ;-D | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | duh, what's on that "new" device? | 00:59 |
| MrPingu | I don't upload anything ;P | 01:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm nope, they flashed it with 21.2011.38-1 | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | no AB | 01:03 |
| FIQ|n900 | acme puzzlemaster is what? | 01:04 |
| MrPingu | I found 5 debs of AB... Google is your friend :P | 01:04 |
| FIQ|n900 | also why did someone upload wine to repositories when it doesn't even work properly? :p | 01:05 |
| FIQ|n900 | first: ARM, second: yay text input in GUI! oh wait... | 01:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/view/puzzle-master/ | 01:06 |
| FIQ|n900 | I actually checked if the second part had changed since (by installing).. apparently not | 01:06 |
| FIQ|n900 | so it ships with a notepad desktop shortcut that is essentially useless | 01:06 |
| FIQ|n900 | *yay* | 01:06 |
| FIQ|n900 | DocScrutinizer: ok | 01:07 |
| FIQ|n900 | hm | 01:08 |
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| MrPingu | Well some dosgames do work very well on dosbox on n900 eg supaplex and prince of persia | 01:08 |
| FIQ|n900 | what's a recommended GUI editor for maemo? | 01:08 |
| merlin1991 | khteditor works quite well | 01:09 |
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| FIQ|n900 | Notes (or whatever "Anteckningar" is in english) doesn't really work that good, PyGTKEditor is perfect for both programming and normal text if it weren't for a really annoying save related bug, so yeah | 01:09 |
| FIQ|n900 | hmm, will look into that | 01:09 |
| FIQ|n900 | also, html format... really? | 01:10 |
| FIQ|n900 | (@ notes/notepad/whatever) | 01:10 |
| MrPingu | I only use leafpad and nano :P | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | notes is braindead | 01:10 |
| FIQ|n900 | ....... | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | mcedit here ;-D | 01:11 |
| FIQ|n900 | I know that I'm tired when I write "apt-cache search merlin199(HL)1" in xterm | 01:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | if you change the background from unbearable blue to something sane, it's quite nice | 01:11 |
| FIQ|n900 | instead of the actual name of editor | 01:12 |
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| merlin1991 | FIQ|n900: khteditor is from the same guy as the pygtkeditor, only that the package is about 1 year younger and in general better :D | 01:12 |
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| FIQ|n900 | ooh | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet it's from khertan | 01:13 |
| FIQ|n900 | great | 01:13 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: hm it's kht ... | 01:14 |
| merlin1991 | no not going to be from khertan xD | 01:14 |
| FIQ|n900 | KHerTan | 01:14 |
| FIQ|n900 | mcedit | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~seen khertan | 01:14 |
| infobot | khertan is currently on #harmattan. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 13h 22m 31s, last said: 'Morning'. | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | hah | 01:15 |
| FIQ|n900 | I associate that with worldedit/whatever in minecraft | 01:15 |
| merlin1991 | I really liked his twitter client, if it only weren't so slow on startup (thanks to pyside) | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | what? mcedit? | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's mudnight commander | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 01:15 |
| FIQ|n900 | yes, i know | 01:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | mid* | 01:15 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: yep. there is a minecraft tool called mcedit | 01:15 |
| FIQ|n900 | but in my head it becomes MCEdit | 01:15 |
| merlin1991 | and the best thing about it, is that it actually renders faster than the real minecraft client (lol) | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | o/ | 01:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | afk | 01:16 |
| FIQ|n900 | lol, it does? | 01:16 |
| merlin1991 | yep it does | 01:16 |
| FIQ|n900 | perhaps not coded in java? :p | 01:17 |
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| FIQ|n900 | this thing looks almost exactly like PyGTKEditor by first impressions | 01:19 |
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| FIQ|n900 | I approve | 01:21 |
| FIQ|n900 | thanks, merlin1991 | 01:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: would you suggest I make that yellow "!" vanish now on my daily phone? ;-D | 01:22 |
| merlin1991 | yeah | 01:23 |
| merlin1991 | go ahead :D | 01:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 01:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so "T" is "S"? \o/ | 01:23 |
| FIQ|n900 | that thing gave me a nice bill one time | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | the "!"? | 01:24 |
| FIQ|n900 | "ok, now let's check for updates when in another country!" | 01:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | he, yeah. nasty | 01:25 |
| FIQ|n900 | I forgot to turn it off... | 01:25 |
| FIQ|n900 | I did it almost immediatly when back home so it would never happen again | 01:25 |
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| FIQ|n900 | or.. "turn it off" | 01:26 |
| FIQ|n900 | aka set it to run once a year or something | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | here every now and then somebody buys a smartphone without proper new data plan. Results in bills like 12,000EUR | 01:26 |
| FIQ|n900 | sounds fun | 01:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed | 01:26 |
| MrPingu | Yeah if money isn't a problem to you :P | 01:26 |
| MrPingu | Near a reflash... installed every "might be interesting" game :p Well that's not the reason of the reflahs | 01:27 |
| FIQ|n900 | I did that once, for every single category of apps | 01:28 |
| MrPingu | I was smart enough to mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 on a fremantle PR1.3 chroot | 01:28 |
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| FIQ|n900 | bad idea (@myself) | 01:29 |
| MrPingu | so I did apt-get install on chroot, and then check later oh dang, it's the real /home/opt mounted in chroot... | 01:29 |
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| FIQ|n900 | shouldn't it whine then? | 01:30 |
| FIQ|n900 | apt-get, that is | 01:30 |
| FIQ|n900 | "hey, you're filling up /home/opt and do dangerous things! please type "Yes, do as I say!" | 01:30 |
| FIQ|n900 | " | 01:30 |
| MrPingu | No it just installed as you chroot as root | 01:31 |
| MrPingu | so it just installed when I said to do so... | 01:31 |
| FIQ|n900 | heh | 01:31 |
| MrPingu | so my sdk intented chroot has al it's apps installed to the "real" home/opt | 01:32 |
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| FIQ|n900 | yay | 01:32 |
| FIQ|n900 | "sdk inteded" er | 01:32 |
| MrPingu | intended :P | 01:33 |
| FIQ|n900 | ..did you install maemo SDK or what? | 01:33 |
| FIQ|n900 | er | 01:33 |
| FIQ|n900 | yeah | 01:33 |
| FIQ|n900 | intended | 01:33 |
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| MrPingu | No just enable sdk repo and pull off build-essential | 01:33 |
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| MrPingu | + a bunch of others | 01:33 |
| FIQ|n900 | hm | 01:33 |
| FIQ|n900 | doesn't it collide with current packages? | 01:34 |
| FIQ|n900 | versions and such | 01:34 |
| MrPingu | but I wouldn'tdare to do that on the "real" maemo as I use it as primary phone :P | 01:34 |
| MrPingu | I didn't noticed anything special with versions | 01:35 |
| FIQ|n900 | ok | 01:35 |
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| FIQ|n900 | hm | 01:36 |
| MrPingu | Well you can also use the sdk rootstrap to make an on-device chrootimage | 01:36 |
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| MrPingu | Probably a bit better than a PR1.3 ripped from the flashimage if you are about to use it as SDK | 01:38 |
| FIQ|n900 | geg | 01:38 |
| FIQ|n900 | *heh | 01:38 |
| FIQ|n900 | I installed archlinux to my memcard some months ago, including pulling developer things (GCC, make, etc), which ended up fully functional and usable.. I should've put energy into a working environment for doing things to maemo instead | 01:39 |
| FIQ|n900 | the only drawback was that something that took 30s to compile on computer took 3min on the device :P | 01:40 |
| MrPingu | N900 compiles very slow... | 01:40 |
| FIQ|n900 | at least it produced things exactly like the desktop did, which surprised me for some reason | 01:41 |
| MrPingu | Kismet 2011 took me more than 2 hours and then discovering it had lots of errors | 01:41 |
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| FIQ|n900 | compiled misc test things and everything just worked | 01:41 |
| FIQ|n900 | not really the experience I had with maemo Sdk on computer | 01:41 |
| FIQ|n900 | *SDK | 01:42 |
| MrPingu | I couldn't compile aircrack-ng nighlty build because make was a version to low... | 01:42 |
| FIQ|n900 | yaay | 01:42 |
| MrPingu | I compiled mdk3-v6 succesfully on my device | 01:43 |
| FIQ|n900 | It would probably do it faster if I didn't have a class 2 SD card though (NITDroid took 5min just to boot up) | 01:43 |
| FIQ|n900 | hm, nice | 01:43 |
| MrPingu | Oh dang it's almost 1 am, I should be sleeping :o have to get up at 6 am =/ | 01:43 |
| FIQ|n900 | what time over there? | 01:44 |
| MrPingu | So, ciao | 01:44 |
| FIQ|n900 | bye | 01:44 |
| FIQ|n900 | er, nvm | 01:44 |
| FIQ|n900 | "almost 1am" | 01:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ok, somebody asked me what's my next device (OWTTE) - since there's no decent successor to N900, I'll probably look into a completely different approach: google glasses | 03:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/04/google-begins-testing-its-augmented-reality-glasses/ | 03:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'll rather try to figure how I can live with (or counteract) loss of privacy and getting a google drone, than not exploring basically intriguing new stuff like Siri or this google AR thing | 03:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | s/getting/becoming/ | 03:14 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: I'll rather try to figure how I can live with (or counteract) loss of privacy and becoming a google drone, than not exploring basically intriguing new stuff like Siri or this google AR thing | 03:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | damn, again | 03:14 |
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| Macer | using my n900 with its paper fix | 06:46 |
| Macer | wow this sucks | 06:46 |
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| ErwinJunge | Is there a mediaplayer for N900 that supports gapless playback and is not rockbox? I tried searching but keep turning up rockbox and really hate that UI. | 14:07 |
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| Macer | yeah. this damn paper trick isnt working anymore :-( | 14:44 |
| Macer | n900 is officially broken | 14:44 |
| SpeedEvil | :/ | 14:45 |
| SpeedEvil | have you tried wrapping it in a towel? | 14:45 |
| SpeedEvil | Unfortunately, there isn't a simple way to try to repair | 14:46 |
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| pcfe | DocScrutinizer: there's a pretty good chance google glasses is over hyped, maybe they found a way to get the display tech workign in real life and full field of vision without anyone noticing, and they got the power consumption under control, again without the rest of the industry catching on. But it's much more likely you'll be running around with a backpack if you want sth half working and you'll have something along the lines of VGA resolution in one corner of | 14:55 |
| pcfe | your field of vision/ | 14:55 |
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| chem|st | Macer: what is your problem about? | 15:30 |
| Macer | sim reader | 15:32 |
| Macer | keeps giving me the no sim icon | 15:32 |
| Macer | and sim reader keeps resetting | 15:33 |
| chem|st | had that but it had nothing todo with the sim reader at all, went away without doing anything to the sim or reader at all | 15:35 |
| chem|st | was about two weeks I got frequently an error after connecting to mobile internet services | 15:35 |
| SpeedEvil | I had the same issue - and it was not fixed. | 15:36 |
| chem|st | disconnecting it and bump no-sim | 15:36 |
| Macer | yes. that is what it is doing | 15:36 |
| chem|st | going offline mode and online again worked sometimes | 15:36 |
| Macer | was trying that ;-) | 15:37 |
| chem|st | a reboot worked every time | 15:37 |
| Macer | it cuts out.... comes back..... etc | 15:37 |
| SpeedEvil | Not here. | 15:37 |
| chem|st | so I doubt it is the connector but the controller | 15:37 |
| SpeedEvil | (reboot) | 15:37 |
| Macer | over and over at random times | 15:37 |
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| Macer | usually when using the modem | 15:37 |
| chem|st | ok it was not random over here | 15:37 |
| Macer | heh | 15:37 |
| chem|st | switching from gsm to umts or going internet was triggering it | 15:38 |
| Macer | yeah | 15:38 |
| Macer | it happens when i access the internet via the modem | 15:38 |
| Macer | it is weird | 15:39 |
| Macer | i was going to flash it with stock maemo and see if that helps | 15:39 |
| Macer | at least eliminate the possible sw probability | 15:39 |
| Macer | if it still does it i will have to assume hw | 15:39 |
| chem|st | guess firmware is the issue and I doubt you will be able to go back in firmware terms | 15:40 |
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| Sicelo | also.. one could try `ifconfig phonet0 down` then `ifconfig phonet0 up` .. if it's not hardware, that is :) | 15:45 |
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| ErwinJunge | To answer my own question re gapless playback: After much more searching and trying a lot of media players, nope. Only rockbox has gapless. I should probably look into updating MAFW to support gapless... | 16:13 |
| tadzik | isn't mpd available? | 16:14 |
| tadzik | there may be no good client on maemo though | 16:15 |
| ErwinJunge | tadzik, exactly the other way around. mpd clients galore, but no mpd :) | 16:18 |
| SpeedEvil | :/ | 16:18 |
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| ErwinJunge | Anyways, if someone would hack gapless into mafw, all of the players that use mafw (nearly all players) would have gapless. So that's now on my todo-when-i-have-some-time list | 16:19 |
| tadzik | heh | 16:20 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/nokia_earnings_ouch/ | 17:39 |
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| micahf | hey, is it possible to receive incoming SIP calls on an n900 while asleep, only using WIFI? | 18:39 |
| jpinx | is it possible to flash from a vm ? | 18:40 |
| jacekowski | jpinx: no | 18:45 |
| jacekowski | jpinx: well, kinda, but no | 18:45 |
| jpinx | jacekowski: expand "kinda" ? ;) | 18:46 |
| jacekowski | it will take you longer to set it up and it will be unreliable | 18:46 |
| jacekowski | than it will take you to install linux\windows or any other supported OS | 18:47 |
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| chem|st | micahf: yes | 18:47 |
| jpinx | jacekowski: I'm told that flashing from XP is not as reliable as from linux - is that right? | 18:48 |
| jacekowski | no | 18:48 |
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| chem|st | jacekowski: sometimes usb enumeration does funny things... | 18:48 |
| micahf | chem|st that's exciting, i just ordered an n900 and am trying an experiment to use only SIP over city-wide wifi | 18:48 |
| jacekowski | coldflashing is bit of a problem because device only appears for like 3s which is less time than it takes for windows to enumerate and install drivers for the first time | 18:48 |
| chem|st | jpinx: win7 has some issues afair | 18:48 |
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| jacekowski | but normal flashing isn't a problem | 18:48 |
| jacekowski | apparently there is some funny stuff happening on 64bits but that's on linux and windows | 18:49 |
| chem|st | jacekowski: never had those issues on linux | 18:49 |
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| chem|st | micahf: would love to have city-wide-wifi over here^^ | 18:49 |
| jpinx | Hmmm - think I'll reboot into debian ;) thanks jacekowski chem|st :) | 18:50 |
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| micahf | it's been something of a dream for a while to ditch mobile providers for the local wifi! | 18:50 |
| chem|st | micahf: SIP skype jabber, anything you like even msn calling | 18:50 |
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| micahf | what do you suppose the battery will act like with SIP always waiting for calls over wifi? | 18:53 |
| micahf | i might need to get one of those solar chargers :D | 18:53 |
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| jpinx | micahf: on wifi I get about 6 hours | 18:54 |
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| micahf | jpinx: and that's part of the time using it and part time standby? | 18:54 |
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| jpinx | wifi on seems to use a lot | 18:55 |
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| chem|st | jpinx: depends, the 6 hours I get is with skype logged in | 18:56 |
| jpinx | micahf: gprs on <3G also uses a lot - I can not get through a day | 18:57 |
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| chem|st | pure wifi on gsm/umts off lasts alot longer | 18:57 |
| jpinx | chem|st: skype munches bandwidth, cpucycles, batteries, your lunch,,,,,, | 18:57 |
| micahf | maybe i'll try and get a 2400 mAh battery | 18:57 |
| chem|st | jpinx: do not forget your first born son | 18:58 |
| micahf | man, it must have munched mine before it was ever even born! | 18:58 |
| micahf | bummer | 18:58 |
| jpinx | micahf: I have a little external battery pack with 2 x AA in it - that gets me through | 18:58 |
| micahf | that's a good idea | 18:58 |
| jpinx | and I turn skype off ;) | 18:58 |
| chem|st | some sacrifices you have to make to have 24/7 mobileSIP! | 18:59 |
| micahf | i think they'll be worth it! | 18:59 |
| chem|st | they are! | 18:59 |
| micahf | i can always just put it in airplane mode and get some away time | 18:59 |
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| chem|st | sure | 19:00 |
| chem|st | and anywhere you have USB you have a charger! | 19:00 |
| micahf | maybe i'll write a python script or something that does scheduled away time | 19:00 |
| micahf | yes USB is easy to find! | 19:00 |
| chem|st | or buy a solarbattery^^ $40... 2000mAh | 19:00 |
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| jpinx | micahf: I'm out in the sticks - the battery pack was my best option with rechargeable AA's | 19:01 |
| chem|st | http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/travelpower/c5a7/?srp=4 | 19:01 |
| micahf | thats pretty nice | 19:02 |
| jpinx | micahf: there are single AAA external packs - but be warned - they are not enough ;) | 19:02 |
| micahf | i see | 19:02 |
| jpinx | I mean AA -- no AAA | 19:02 |
| micahf | yeah, you're saying go with the AA's, the AAA's aren't big enough | 19:02 |
| jpinx | yes - and go for 2 AA's -- not a single one | 19:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh mo bile SIP | 19:03 |
| micahf | yes! isn't it exciting? | 19:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | on all the standby time figures I posted for/from my device last month+ I always forgot to mention I had not only IRC but also SIP active | 19:04 |
| jpinx | micahf: and also nte that the recharge rate is slow, so it's best to actually have the ext power plugged in while the phone is on | 19:04 |
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| micahf | DocScrutinizer: where are those? | 19:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | in chanlog? | 19:05 |
| lartza_ | I've noticed that jabber doesn't take bandwidth at all after tuning /usr/share/osso-rtcom/jabber.profile keepalive | 19:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | meh, keepalive is zarro bandwitz | 19:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | it's just frequent, and that is going to kill your standby time | 19:07 |
| Macer | OK | 19:07 |
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| Macer | got my lumia 900 :) | 19:07 |
| Macer | lol | 19:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | when on GSM/3G | 19:07 |
| chem|st | lartza_: SIP and jabber are both pretty well on interrupts and wakeups | 19:07 |
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| chem|st | Macer: you wont save nokia with supporting windows phones... | 19:08 |
| lartza_ | DocScrutinizer: yeah I thought increasing the keepalive made it less frequent | 19:08 |
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| chem|st | Macer: what do you want for your n900? | 19:08 |
| lartza_ | increasing standby time | 19:08 |
| lartza_ | anyway skype eats the battery in less than a day, jabber can stay online for 2-3 days | 19:09 |
| chem|st | lartza_: so does SIP | 19:09 |
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| micahf | DocScritinizer: so there are ways to optimize? | 19:10 |
| chem|st | micahf: SIP is quiet good itself | 19:11 |
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| chem|st | skype and msn are a nightmare | 19:12 |
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| micahf | yeah i only plan on using SIP really. it'd be nice if i could receive sms messages | 19:13 |
| Macer | chem|st: lol | 19:14 |
| Macer | chem|st: i won't save nokia doing anything ;) they'll have to save themselves | 19:14 |
| chem|st | Macer: what? I am serious! | 19:14 |
| Macer | but jesus.. att was almost giving them away | 19:14 |
| Macer | 100 off your first bill.. 100 free accessories... 99 for thephone | 19:14 |
| micahf | DocScrutinizer: so basically you're saying that there are ways to optimize how often the antenna is used? | 19:15 |
| Macer | chem|st: i don't know. how much will you pay for an n900 with a broken sim reader? | 19:15 |
| Macer | the more tech savvy might want to see if they can fix it | 19:15 |
| micahf | Macer or they won't use sim, they'll use SIP :D | 19:16 |
| chem|st | Macer: that's the only way to sell crap shit, in europe there is still no market for lumias at all | 19:16 |
| Macer | lol | 19:16 |
| Macer | chem|st: it is nice ;) | 19:16 |
| Macer | i'm using it now | 19:16 |
| Macer | hey... the interface is better than maemo :-P | 19:16 |
| Macer | only thing it's missing is xterm :( | 19:16 |
| chem|st | Macer: I read reviews like 'nice for a day or two then I moved back to my old phone and sold it' | 19:17 |
| chem|st | bb | 19:17 |
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| Macer | LOL | 19:19 |
| chem|st | mailinglist sounds like nokia is interested in reviving maemo... | 19:19 |
| micahf | what's the lumia like? | 19:19 |
| Macer | chem|st: if you say so | 19:20 |
| Macer | i don't judge based on others ;) | 19:20 |
| chem|st | nokia offering developer N9s to push Qt... | 19:20 |
| Macer | heh | 19:20 |
| Macer | how is the n9 doing in europe? | 19:20 |
| chem|st | n9 sold more than all lumia together | 19:21 |
| chem|st | more often | 19:21 |
| chem|st | sry | 19:21 |
| micahf | lumia is a windows phone? | 19:22 |
| chem|st | nokia was blaming the nokia stores presenting the lumias wrong | 19:22 |
| chem|st | micahf: yes | 19:22 |
| micahf | bummer | 19:22 |
| chem|st | micahf: 2nd | 19:22 |
| micahf | sounds like a sad day for everyone :( | 19:23 |
| micahf | (i'm just jk, some people like windows and that's alright) | 19:23 |
| chem|st | well nokia lost 980mEUR over the last 3 month NSE lost 1bEUR though... | 19:23 |
| micahf | that's a lot! | 19:24 |
| chem|st | 66% market loss in china | 19:24 |
| micahf | i am still using a nokia 6260 with symbian | 19:24 |
| micahf | oh wait, that's not right | 19:24 |
| micahf | 6620 | 19:24 |
| micahf | http://www.redwoodsoft.com/~dru/tech/Nokia_6620.jpg | 19:24 |
| micahf | pretty amazing phone | 19:24 |
| joga | looks like soap | 19:25 |
| micahf | haha | 19:26 |
| micahf | good point | 19:26 |
| joga | I once had a nearly similar one but different model, more rectangular frame | 19:26 |
| Macer | haha | 19:26 |
| micahf | well mine could use some soap | 19:26 |
| Macer | chem|st: well they are selling out in the states | 19:26 |
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| Macer | and lord knows we have far more debt to work with than eu when buying shit we can't afford :) | 19:26 |
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| Macer | look at our awesome 14T govt debt | 19:26 |
| Macer | (high fives) | 19:26 |
| Macer | thank god we have tanks | 19:27 |
| micahf | (high five!) | 19:27 |
| micahf | our police departments have tanks | 19:27 |
| Macer | wow really? | 19:27 |
| micahf | the pentagon has a program to give police departments tanks for free! | 19:27 |
| micahf | yes | 19:27 |
| Macer | soviet russia? :) | 19:27 |
| tadzik | water tanks, maybe ;) | 19:27 |
| micahf | well yes, amphibious tanks | 19:27 |
| tadzik | even better | 19:28 |
| micahf | http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-12-05/news/30476833_1_armored-vehicles-military-equipment-police-forces | 19:28 |
| Macer | i sure wish this damn ms phone had the ability to use integrated gtalk tho | 19:28 |
| Macer | that is a drawback | 19:28 |
| Macer | but one i can live with | 19:29 |
| joga | hmm...no upgrade path from mango to apollo eh | 19:29 |
| tadzik | Macer: no xmpp client? | 19:29 |
| Macer | tadzik: i got one from teh market | 19:29 |
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| joga | (http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/17/2956439/windows-phone-8-apollo-no-upgrade) | 19:29 |
| tadzik | I see | 19:29 |
| Macer | well.. not a xmpp client | 19:29 |
| Macer | a gtalk only client | 19:29 |
| Macer | but i'm sure there are jabber ones out there | 19:29 |
| Macer | i just didn't bother | 19:29 |
| tadzik | gtalk only smells fishy to me | 19:29 |
| tadzik | but sounds good enough if that's what you use it for anyway | 19:30 |
| Macer | heh | 19:30 |
| Macer | it's IM | 19:30 |
| Macer | :-P | 19:30 |
| Macer | i just wish they all used jabber/xmpp | 19:30 |
| Macer | so they would all work together | 19:30 |
| tadzik | well, gtalk is just xmpp | 19:31 |
| Macer | but they're trying to hold on with a firm grip to their lame ass IM protocols | 19:31 |
| Macer | to keep their cutomer base? | 19:31 |
| Macer | lol | 19:31 |
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| tadzik | it makes no sense to me either. But I can see their reasoning, as in "if they want to chat with facepalm users, make them do it via facepalm only" | 19:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | micahf: I haven't "optimized" anyrhing for SIP, au contraire. I've set keepalive to "by REGISTER" and "120s" | 19:53 |
| micahf | hm | 19:53 |
| micahf | by register? | 19:53 |
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| micahf | i've been reading about anveo as an SIP provider | 19:57 |
| micahf | it's looking pretty good | 19:57 |
| micahf | text messages are 4 pennies each, which really isn't bad. | 19:58 |
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| micahf | it could definitely add up though | 19:59 |
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| narcos | Hey all! | 20:53 |
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| demute | if your Nokia N900 broke today what phone would you buy? | 21:09 |
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| tadzik | some cheap HTC I guess | 21:11 |
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| jaska | some featurephone | 21:23 |
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| narcos | Hi all. I'm trying to compile a custom power kernel. To that end, I'm trying to get scratchbox going with the nokia binaries by following http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Maemo_5_SDK_installation_for_beginners | 22:01 |
| narcos | At the point where I open scratchbox with /scratchbox/login, the guide tells me to enter 'sb-conf se FREMANTLE_ARMEL' | 22:01 |
| narcos | But I get the error of "sbrsh-conf: No such target" | 22:02 |
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| narcos | It seems maybe I need to create the target first, so I run sb-menu and select "Setup a target" | 22:02 |
| narcos | and then select new | 22:03 |
| narcos | I guess I should enter the name as "FREMANTLE_ARMEL" | 22:03 |
| narcos | but then I am unsure of what compiler to select | 22:03 |
| narcos | cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm7 or cs2007q3-glibc2.5-i486 or host-gcc | 22:03 |
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| narcos | I guess the arm7, right? Since I want to compile for the arm processor on the phone | 22:04 |
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| Macer | hm | 22:25 |
| Macer | ok | 22:26 |
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| vizzy | great, i must be blind or nowhere is mentioned that the maemo sdk installer only works with squeeze withour errors. argh. | 23:53 |
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