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| drex | gotta get home guys, have a good day | 03:35 |
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| Macer | ok | 03:50 |
| Macer | no offense but | 03:50 |
| Macer | i have to admit i want a nokia windows phone after seeing that commercial lol | 03:50 |
| Macer | THE BETA TEST IS OVER!! | 03:50 |
| Macer | hahahaha | 03:50 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/16/moodys_downgrade_nokia_junk/ | 08:48 |
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| slonopotamus | ruskie: it was obvious from the very beginning that going with windows will lead to a dead end, sooner or later | 08:58 |
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| Sicelo | hmm, | 10:49 |
| Sicelo | can someone paste me their /etc/sudoers.d/01sudo file | 10:50 |
| Macer | damnit | 10:53 |
| Macer | my damn n900 keeps disconnecting the sim for some reason | 10:53 |
| Macer | now i really screwed it up trying to fix it.. i somehow managed to wipe the kernel without having the original install | 10:53 |
| Macer | i hope it is some awkward cssu bug and not a hardware issue | 10:54 |
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| Macer | but considering i have been running cssu for weeks and really haven't changed the phone much it is looking grim :( | 10:54 |
| Macer | i should rma it for an e7 :) | 10:54 |
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| SpeedEvil | You get 'sim error' messages? | 10:58 |
| Macer | no | 11:00 |
| Macer | i get the sim not there icon | 11:00 |
| Macer | then it comes back | 11:01 |
| Macer | then goes away.. then comes back | 11:01 |
| Macer | it seems once i try to use the modem it dies | 11:01 |
| Macer | then comes back :) | 11:01 |
| SpeedEvil | :/ | 11:01 |
| Macer | yeah.. that's exactly how i felt | 11:01 |
| SpeedEvil | Is the battery a bit dodgy? | 11:01 |
| Macer | i swapped batteries | 11:01 |
| Macer | but the last one was | 11:01 |
| Macer | came with a wall charger | 11:01 |
| Macer | i used the nokia battery and still have issues | 11:02 |
| SpeedEvil | But more likely I'd say it's a not uncommon fault. :/ | 11:02 |
| Macer | well... hopefully it isn't damaged hardware | 11:02 |
| Macer | but so far it seems that way | 11:02 |
| Macer | i tried an att sim and had the same problem | 11:02 |
| Macer | so it isn't the sim or tmobile | 11:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sounds like the "high hill effect" | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | when device tries to associate to a BTS that's way too far away | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | but also may be: poor location (device has not enough power to reach BTS); BTS occupied; roaming error; antenna semi-defect; battery weak (too high impedance); modem defect | 13:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | interference on upstream band | 13:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | even wrong band (850MHz for a 900MHz device) may cause such issues | 14:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [general notice] There will be a Council meeting (IRC - #maemo-meeting) at 15:00 UTC on Tuesday April 17. <http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005085.html> | 14:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: ^^^ | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: (you're chan owner, so it would help to have you around ;-D) | 14:53 |
| SD69 | thanks Doc | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | YW | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd add a logbot if any of the chanops would allow me to | 14:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | alas it seems none of the chanops is even aware there's some pending activity over there | 14:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm tempted to do it nevertheless if none of the chanops is vetoing until 15min before meeting | 14:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: PING | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | Jaffa_: PING | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | Jaffa_: ^^^ | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | ghjgfjghjbn: do you really like this nick? | 14:59 |
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| teotwaki | DocScrutinizer: take a chill pill | 14:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | teotwaki: wut? I'm hoping coffee eventualy kicks in, half asleep ;-) | 15:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so you might argue coffee is the chill pill of my choice. Actually it seems all such "drugs" work paradox for me | 15:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | SD69: you might want to ask X-Fade to moderate the meeting, I seem to not get past his ignore list | 15:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | he's active this very moment on #harmattan | 15:15 |
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| SD69 | DocScrutinizer: I think Council will moderate the meeting | 15:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | and he's chanowner of #maemo-meeting, so the only one who can do proper moderation | 15:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | SD69: so please council update #maemo-meeting /topic ;-D | 15:17 |
| SD69 | ahh | 15:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | this should be done *now*, not halfway into actual meeting | 15:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | SD69: adding a logbot shuld also be finished before meeting starts, I need permission of *chanop* to do this | 15:19 |
| SD69 | sure, let's hope momcilo updates it | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | (well, not really. But that's best practice) | 15:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | who's momcilo? | 15:20 |
| Sicelo | lol | 15:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | he's not on #maemo-meeting accesslist | 15:21 |
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| Sicelo | momcilo is in current council | 15:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | /ms chanserv access #maemo-meeting list | 15:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | /msg even | 15:22 |
| Sicelo | yeah, i noticed | 15:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd suggest X-Fade adds somebody to access list who will take care, though I know he won't accept at least me for that | 15:23 |
| teotwaki | Why? | 15:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | same reason he ignores all my direct pings to him | 15:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'm bitching too much about aegis | 15:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-D | 15:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | and I even started that before we had access to any actual aegis implementation | 15:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the general tale back when been "let's wait and see what it actually will bring us" - I always begged to differ | 15:28 |
| Termana | I just think you need to give it a bit more time to grow on you | 15:29 |
| Termana | .......... :p | 15:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | hahahahaha | 15:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | good one, Termana | 15:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, I know how I get beyond his /ignore | 15:31 |
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| Sicelo | DocScrutinizer is our little devil, lol | 15:35 |
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| Sicelo | ;) j/k | 15:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | >:-D | 15:36 |
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| Macer | crap | 15:39 |
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| Macer | i need to flash a kernel on this damn thing now :/ | 15:39 |
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| Macer | i guess removing the power kernel from pkg manager is not a good thing to do | 15:39 |
| Macer | i sure hope this is a software problem with teh sim but i am doubting it | 15:39 |
| Macer | i think something got messed up in the phone somehow :( | 15:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: \o/ | 15:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | see /topic! | 15:40 |
| javispedro | ECHAN ;P | 15:40 |
| Macer | what''s the council meeting about? | 15:41 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: oops, actually, errno=0, apologies | 15:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | haha | 15:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: see ML link | 15:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: you may ask x-fade to update the /topic in #maemo-meeting | 15:43 |
| ShadowJK | macer: "disconnecting the sim" = crossed out sim icon in status area? "dmesg" to pastebin after it happens plz | 15:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: +1 :-) | 15:44 |
| javispedro | Macer: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005085.html | 15:45 |
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| Macer | ShadowJK: yes | 15:50 |
| Macer | sorry i already ruined the kernel | 15:51 |
| Macer | i have to flash a new kernel to it | 15:51 |
| Macer | i don't get an error.. i just keep getting the no sim icon over and over | 15:51 |
| Macer | it was driving me nuts.. and i thought it may have something to do with the power kernel.. tried removing it and removed it without installing the stock kernel heh | 15:51 |
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| Macer | ShadowJK: is this a known problem? | 15:54 |
| Macer | or is it my hardware going bad? | 15:54 |
| ShadowJK | yes | 15:54 |
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| Macer | yes to known problem? | 15:55 |
| Macer | or bad hardware? :) | 15:55 |
| ShadowJK | yes :) | 15:55 |
| ShadowJK | get a dmesg | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol | 15:55 |
| Macer | hahaha | 15:55 |
| Macer | well.. that sucks :) | 15:55 |
| Macer | ok... i will flash it in a minute | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: move to another BTS cell | 15:55 |
| Macer | BTS cell? | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | "tower" | 15:56 |
| Macer | i did already | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh :-/ | 15:56 |
| Macer | i actually swapped an att sim into it | 15:56 |
| Macer | i mean it won't wrok 3G but it will still work | 15:56 |
| Macer | and it had the same problem | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | dang | 15:56 |
| Macer | someone lent me their att sim | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | sounds like hw | 15:56 |
| Macer | yeah :/ | 15:56 |
| Macer | i'm going to flash it and see if it persists | 15:56 |
| Macer | if it doesn't then i'm blaming cssu :-P | 15:57 |
| Macer | lol | 15:57 |
| Macer | but i doubt it | 15:57 |
| Macer | i was using it for weeks with the version of cssu running on it | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | cssu is innocent | 15:57 |
| Macer | i know.. i was joking | 15:57 |
| Macer | i had cssu on it for a while.. this problem just ... started.. weird | 15:57 |
| Macer | and it's made in finland | 15:57 |
| Macer | guess i can't blame asia anymore :/ | 15:57 |
| ghostcube | Macer: with no support, but you could try to bend the sim pins a bit | 15:57 |
| ghostcube | i had this issue too and it worked | 15:57 |
| ShadowJK | It's likely hw failure. I've had two N900s fail that way. The output of dmesg would confirm | 15:58 |
| Macer | ShadowJK: doh :) | 15:58 |
| Macer | what would i be looking for in dmesg? | 15:58 |
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| Macer | "Kernel panic.... sim fail" | 15:58 |
| Macer | heh | 15:58 |
| ShadowJK | CMT rst | 15:59 |
| ShadowJK | iirc | 15:59 |
| StyXman | EMP | 16:00 |
| ShadowJK | bbiab. Need to go pick up lightbulbs for car so it'll pass mot. | 16:00 |
| Macer | ghostcube: i sure hope it is something that simple ;) | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: hardly | 16:00 |
| ghostcube | its just happening if the phone falls down or something like this | 16:00 |
| ghostcube | just pull the cover and battery out | 16:01 |
| ghostcube | open sim card holder | 16:01 |
| ghostcube | and be soft to the pins | 16:01 |
| ghostcube | dont bend them to hard | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | but a close inspection of SIM holder and esp contacts there can't hurt (unless you break the contacts while bending them) | 16:01 |
| Macer | i already did ;) | 16:01 |
| ghostcube | DocScrutinizer: worked for me several times so far | 16:01 |
| Macer | not break them | 16:01 |
| Macer | bent them upwards | 16:01 |
| ghostcube | Macer: yep | 16:01 |
| Termana | Either the N900 was not built to last or you guys are just extremely rough with it :p USB ports falling out, SIM hardware failures. Those poor N900s. Mine just got chucked in a sink, ended it pretty quickly. | 16:02 |
| Macer | Termana: food processor | 16:02 |
| Macer | ? | 16:02 |
| ghostcube | my usb port is not a problem so far | 16:02 |
| ghostcube | just the sim detection fails sometimes | 16:02 |
| Termana | Macer, will it blend? | 16:02 |
| Termana | Made in Finland. Definitely blends | 16:02 |
| Macer | haha | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: I was about to type just that ;-D | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | err Termana | 16:03 |
| Termana | mmm? | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, oxidized/stained/dirty contacts on SIM holder are not that uncommon | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | Termana: (does it blend) | 16:04 |
| Macer | have to swap over to a pc | 16:04 |
| Macer | brb | 16:04 |
| Termana | OH. OH. YOU WANT ME TO SEE WEATHER MINE BLENDS? | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | for cleaning contacts you either use a paper business card without varnish (raw paper) | 16:04 |
| Termana | I don't have a blender. Sorry. | 16:04 |
| StyXman | Termana: hand blender? | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | or a rubber eraser, the hard type that has fine sand in it - only for really heavy stains though | 16:05 |
| * StyXman notices that he doesn't know appliance's names in english | 16:05 | |
| DocScrutinizer | usually the 'blue' type | 16:05 |
| Macer | alrighty | 16:06 |
| Macer | where is the wiki on how to flash power kernel to the phone? | 16:06 |
| Macer | :) | 16:06 |
| Termana | StyXman, no hand blender either. I have a whisk. Maybe I can start a new series - will it whisk and brown in the oven | 16:06 |
| StyXman | Termana: hehehe | 16:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [general notice] There will be a Council meeting (IRC - #maemo-meeting) at 15:00 UTC on Tuesday April 17. <http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005085.html> | 16:11 |
| Macer | hm | 16:11 |
| Macer | i need to get power kernel uhm... 2.6.10? | 16:12 |
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| Macer | i can't remember | 16:12 |
| Macer | i remember there being a 10 in there somewhere :) anybody know where i can get the img? | 16:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | WOW 313 users | 16:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: only way I know is to install stock kernel, than use kernel-power(flasher|modules) packages and install them | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet pali has provided some image you could flash directly as well | 16:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | *somewhere* | 16:16 |
| Macer | wow | 16:17 |
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| Macer | ok. where can i find the stock kernel just to get the thing to boot? :) | 16:17 |
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| Sicelo_ | use flasher utility: it has a flash kernel-only option .. and the rootfs file. | 16:18 |
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| DocScrutinizer | it's even explained on ~flashing | 16:19 |
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| Macer | Duplicate headers received from server | 16:19 |
| Macer | wtf? | 16:19 |
| Macer | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php?f=RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2.002_PR_COMBINED_002_ARM.bin | 16:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | err wait.... COMBINED_002 ? | 16:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | use global version! | 16:20 |
| Macer | the whole page is doing it | 16:21 |
| Macer | none of the images seem to want to download | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | cmt known to occasionally freak out on localized firmware | 16:21 |
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| Macer | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: you "registered"? | 16:21 |
| Macer | yes | 16:21 |
| Macer | i put the ser in | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 16:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | IMEI but anyway | 16:21 |
| Macer | let me try again | 16:22 |
| LaoLang_cool | gtalk on maemo is a hello... messages would get disappear, I encountered several times | 16:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | msgs disappearing usually related to corrupted database | 16:24 |
| Macer | Error 349 (net::ERR_RESPONSE_HEADERS_MULTIPLE_CONTENT_DISPOSITION): Multiple Content-Disposition headers received. This is disallowed to protect against HTTP response splitting attacks. | 16:24 |
| Macer | are you kidding me ? :) | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | o.O | 16:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | use another browser maybe | 16:25 |
| Macer | that's what i'm doing now | 16:26 |
| LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: disappear sometimes, not always. | 16:26 |
| LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: how to know if database is corrupted or not? | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | LaoLang_cool: I don't know for sure | 16:27 |
| LaoLang_cool | I've cleared conversation of gtalk, but still have the issue | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | might be something completely different | 16:27 |
| Macer | wow ie works tho? | 16:27 |
| Macer | weird. remind me to figure that out later heh | 16:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: which browser? | 16:28 |
| LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: thank you all the same | 16:28 |
| Macer | the error was in chrome | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | LaoLang_cool: really sorry, I just heard of it, and know of some tmo threads dealing with related topics | 16:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway what I heard is not gtalk specific | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | usually noticed for SMS | 16:29 |
| LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer: ok, I'll try to find the threads | 16:29 |
| LaoLang_cool | oh, sms works fine here | 16:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | I gather it's same database though | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | really, might be a red herring and completely unrelated | 16:31 |
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| Macer | is there a 64bit version of the driver to flash on a win7 box? | 16:32 |
| ShadowJK | It's not "SIM hardware failure" for my two cases. However, the UI uses "crossed out sim" icon for all and any unknown/uncommon faults with the modem | 16:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | SIM is synonym for cmt | 16:33 |
| Macer | oh | 16:33 |
| Macer | i see a nokia bbs adl loader usb generic driver installed | 16:33 |
| Macer | let me try flashing | 16:33 |
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| Macer | grrr | 16:36 |
| Macer | this damn flasher says suitable usb device not found | 16:36 |
| Macer | blahblah | 16:36 |
| ShadowJK | Also in my case on both, it'd fail if I pinched phone with thumb and finger at around g h on keyboard. If I kept pinching and booting phone without a SIM, I got a message saying something like unknown telephony error emergency calls disabled | 16:37 |
| ShadowJK | Generic flashing advice: unplug cable, switch off N900, remove battery, start flasher, plug in cable, insert battery | 16:38 |
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| Macer | APE algorithm has to be... | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | ?? | 16:44 |
| Macer | provided to flash all the subimages | 16:44 |
| Macer | i did flasher.exe RX...bin --flash-only=kernel -f -R | 16:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | well you're missing -F <file to flash> | 16:45 |
| Macer | sorry | 16:45 |
| Macer | -F RX...bin | 16:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd try a more 'logical' sequence: -f --flash-only=kernel -F <file> | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | shouldn't matter | 16:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | -R is bogus, but also shouldn't matter | 16:47 |
| Macer | nope .. same error | 16:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~flashing | 16:48 |
| infobot | i guess maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 16:48 |
| Macer | ah well.. screw it let me see if i can flash the entire image | 16:48 |
| Macer | that is what i am reading :-P | 16:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | flasher is a bitch | 16:49 |
| Macer | no i am thinking it is some retarded win7 x64 driver problem | 16:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | I tried giving it multiple -F, to do combined & vanilla in one command -> fails | 16:49 |
| Macer | suitable usb device not found | 16:51 |
| Macer | and it is obviously waiting | 16:51 |
| Macer | ugh! | 16:51 |
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| * Macer pounds his head | 16:53 | |
| Macer | let me go walk my happy ass into the closet and hook this thing up to a debian box | 16:55 |
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| Macer | Apr 17 08:57:09 inducere kernel: [2028179.303831] usb 1-2: Product: Nokia N900 (Update mode) | 16:59 |
| Macer | go figure | 16:59 |
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| Macer | NOLO version 1.4.14 | 17:10 |
| Macer | Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_MR0 | 17:10 |
| Macer | Image SW version RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_MR0 | 17:10 |
| Macer | ERROR: APE algorithm has to be provided to flash all the subimages | 17:10 |
| Macer | wtf? | 17:10 |
| Macer | oh give me a break | 17:12 |
| Macer | latest flasher my ass :/ | 17:12 |
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| Macer | ok | 17:18 |
| Macer | what am i looking for in dmesg? | 17:18 |
| Macer | the bending the pins up didn't work :( | 17:18 |
| Macer | [ 89.539428] * CMT rst line change detected (0) | 17:19 |
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| Macer | that? | 17:20 |
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| Macer | yeah.. i keep getting CMT rst line change detected :( | 17:24 |
| ShadowJK | hw fail | 17:26 |
| ShadowJK | imo | 17:26 |
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| Macer | :( | 17:27 |
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| Macer | i'm double checking that the pins are bent upwards one last time | 17:28 |
| Macer | bugzilla says a folded piece of paper between the sim and the battery may do the trick as well | 17:28 |
| Macer | otherwise it is a bad phone :( | 17:29 |
| Macer | but it seems to occur whenever the modem is accessed | 17:29 |
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| Macer | nope on the pins :( damn this sucks | 17:30 |
| Macer | wtf... talk about a jacked up device | 17:30 |
| Macer | usb ports breaking off.. sim cards stop working | 17:30 |
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| ShadowJK | in my case modem stops working also without sim :P | 17:31 |
| ShadowJK | (whereas working modem is capable of emergency call without sim) | 17:31 |
| Macer | LOL | 17:32 |
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| Macer | so i should call 911 to test it? :) | 17:32 |
| Macer | "sorry to bother.. just wanted to test my phone out" | 17:33 |
| Macer | i'd be arrested by noon | 17:33 |
| Macer | i shoved a piece of paper between the battery and the sim to see if pressure will help | 17:33 |
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| Macer | wow | 17:36 |
| Macer | that ......... seems to have worked | 17:37 |
| Macer | wth | 17:37 |
| Macer | you have got to be kidding me | 17:38 |
| Macer | you would think bending the pins upward would have given a better contact | 17:38 |
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| Macer | wtf | 17:39 |
| Macer | amazing | 17:39 |
| Macer | let me bend them safely a bit further | 17:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Macer: the paper patch approach most likely got nothing to do with SIM contacts. I'd guess it's a broken solder point somewhere under a chip or even of the SIM holder, and by applying pressure to SIM holder you also bend the PCB and thus - with a bit of luck - make the solder point contact again | 17:42 |
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| Macer | oh | 17:43 |
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| Macer | well i still bent the pins upward a little more just to make sure | 17:43 |
| Macer | honestly if this doesn't work i'm going to hopefully be able to RMA and just get an e7 ;) | 17:44 |
| Macer | i think i'm tired of n900s breaking on me | 17:44 |
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| Macer | i'm testing it now | 17:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | I requested to jonni@nokia over in #harmattan if he could ask internally for investigation results of Nokia EE department regarding this rather common error pattern. Alas it seems we need other channels into Nokia to get a proper answer | 17:44 |
| Macer | ask about the usb ports while you're at it :-P | 17:45 |
| Macer | nope | 17:45 |
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| Macer | lost the sim again | 17:45 |
| Macer | yeah.. i think i am just going to stay stuck with an e7 | 17:45 |
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| Macer | n900 is so well built minus the insides :( | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | Macer: USB port issue is completely "closed ticket" - there's nothing more to learn about that | 17:46 |
| Macer | DocScrutinizer: i'm sure... they made a piss poor design for the usb port | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | ack | 17:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~usbfix | 17:46 |
| infobot | well, usbfix is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75920 - and **NEVER** use epoxy (unless you want to seal your device for underwater) | 17:46 |
| Macer | my usb port is fine for now.. it's my sim not working | 17:47 |
| Macer | :) | 17:47 |
| Macer | i should see if nokia will send me an unlocked lumia 900 :) | 17:47 |
| Macer | with the tmob freq | 17:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | all that can be done, plus Nokia assured they'd repair/swap/fix any USB issue for users suffering from that. Alas this promise didn't hold for significantly longer than 12 months :-/ | 17:47 |
| Macer | lol.. i'm sure | 17:48 |
| Macer | what is the warranty on N900s? | 17:48 |
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| Macer | i got mine off ebay so i doubt they'd even honor an RMA | 17:48 |
| Macer | even if it was new | 17:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | in EU we got a general 24 months legal warranty on new goods | 17:49 |
| Macer | so in the us 24 hours :-P to make up for those EU laws | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | Nokia generously ignoring that fact | 17:49 |
| Macer | heh | 17:50 |
| Macer | ah well.. let me fill out the paperwork and see if they'll honor it | 17:50 |
| Macer | it is obviously not a sw problem | 17:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if you're going RMA/warranty, state CLEARLY and in RED that you won't acept any symbian or winp7 replacement, and you also don't agree on Nokia simply keeping *your* device and shreddering it | 17:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if that's what you want | 17:53 |
| * lardman wonders whether the Lumia devices accept AT commands | 17:55 | |
| lardman | afternoon all | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | Nokia still seems to prefer a notion like the devices are *theirs* and only lent out to users | 17:56 |
| javispedro | lumias accept AT commands from bill gates | 17:56 |
| javispedro | the rest must pray | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | heh! :-D | 17:56 |
| lardman | I was just thinking about harvesting cellids, and thinking about the PITA of trying to get a cellmodem working on a tablet | 17:56 |
| lardman | s/harvesting/collecting | 17:57 |
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| lardman | I never thought I'd enjoy looking at VB code..... | 17:57 |
| lardman | but it beats PCI kernel driver code | 17:57 |
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| lardman | meeting starts soon or am I a TZ out? | 17:58 |
| * lardman goes to make a coffee in preparation | 17:58 | |
| Termana | lardman, starts soon | 17:59 |
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| lardman | cool | 18:01 |
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| lardman | Jaffa_: ping | 18:03 |
| SpeedEvil | lardman: hey | 18:04 |
| lardman | hi SpeedEvil, how's things? | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | Council meeting (IRC - #maemo-meeting) NOW | 18:04 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm still spending way too much time on writing benefits appeals. :/ | 18:04 |
| lardman | all ye all ye come and discuss the future | 18:04 |
| lardman | did Quim say he would attend? How's about Jaffa? | 18:05 |
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| Jaffa_ | lardman: Sorry, busy at work. Joined now | 18:18 |
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| Macer | well | 18:25 |
| Macer | according to nokia my n900 is out of warranty | 18:25 |
| Macer | going by their records | 18:25 |
| Macer | so now i have to dig up the receipt for this thing (which i pray i have) and try to send it in based on date of purchase | 18:26 |
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| SpeedEvil | :/ | 18:27 |
| SpeedEvil | Sure you're within 24mo? | 18:27 |
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| Macer | well i did iget it off ebay.. but it was from a distributor | 18:27 |
| Macer | not from a person | 18:27 |
| Macer | but i don't know how they count that | 18:28 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 18:28 |
| Macer | ironically enough | 18:28 |
| Macer | the guy i talked to asked "have you tried putting a piece of paper between the battery and the sim?" | 18:28 |
| Macer | LOL wtf? | 18:28 |
| SpeedEvil | hah | 18:30 |
| Macer | this could be the catalyst i needed to ditch tmobile tho | 18:31 |
| SpeedEvil | :/ | 18:31 |
| Macer | if i can't manage to rma this thing then i'm done with tmobile | 18:31 |
| Macer | they have crap service anyways. the only thing keeping me with them was my n900 :) | 18:31 |
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| Macer | the real crappy part is the phone is a UK phone | 18:36 |
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| Macer | so i have to go by UK warranty.. meaning i need to ship it overseas to get it fixed lol | 18:36 |
| Macer | GREAT! | 18:36 |
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| Macer | i hope i can send this thing to the UK and actually get it repaired or replaced | 20:45 |
| Macer | only one way to find out | 20:45 |
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| SpeedEvil | Repair - no hope. | 20:50 |
| SpeedEvil | IMO | 20:51 |
| SpeedEvil | I had ~the same issue in November. | 20:51 |
| SpeedEvil | And got a different phone. | 20:51 |
| SpeedEvil | I question the likelyhood of a replacement lumia | 20:51 |
| SpeedEvil | different non-n900 phone | 20:51 |
| RST38h | Better get a Symbian phone. | 20:52 |
| RST38h | Yes, Lumias are that bad. | 20:52 |
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| Raimu | freemangordon: Is this linux-backports-modules piece just the bleeding-edge wireless for kp50? Safe to install, then? | 23:23 |
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| freemangordon | Raimu, not only wifi drivers, but it is safe to install, it puts all the modules under /opt/lib/modules/... | 23:24 |
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| Raimu | What's the rest of it, then? | 23:25 |
| Raimu | I see... something bluetooth? | 23:25 |
| freemangordon | yep | 23:25 |
| freemangordon | actually it is the whole compat-wireless | 23:26 |
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| freemangordon | http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download | 23:26 |
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| Raimu | I see. | 23:26 |
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| freemangordon | Well, i had the dilema whether to use package only wifi drivers, but at the end decided to package everything, after all it is not so big, about 1MB in /opt | 23:28 |
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| freemangordon | s/use package only/package only/ | 23:28 |
| infobot | freemangordon meant: Well, i had the dilema whether to package only wifi drivers, but at the end decided to package everything, after all it is not so big, about 1MB in /opt | 23:28 |
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