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| szopeen | hmmm | 01:50 |
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| szopeen | forcing newer qemu got ubuntu in a strange state | 01:51 |
| szopeen | -f install wants to remove 942mb | 01:51 |
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| mgedmin | --force is rarely the right thing to do | 01:52 |
| szopeen | yeah | 01:52 |
| szopeen | update manager offer partial update and just hangs for a couple of hours | 01:53 |
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| mgedmin | and what does apt-get dist-upgrade offer you? | 01:53 |
| szopeen | wish reflash of ubuntu took minutes like maemo | 01:53 |
| mgedmin | heh | 01:54 |
| szopeen | try using -f | 01:55 |
| mgedmin | all this just from a new qemu? | 01:55 |
| szopeen | couple of debs of newer versions | 01:55 |
| szopeen | but got tired after 5th or so | 01:56 |
| szopeen | was hoping it would be a couple | 01:56 |
| szopeen | qemucommon, kvm, libgnutls, libpulse, libtinfo | 01:57 |
| szopeen | guess installing proper versions of those might fix it | 01:57 |
| mgedmin | ought to | 01:57 |
| szopeen | still all versions were oneiric | 01:57 |
| szopeen | didn't expect that much of a prob | 01:58 |
| mgedmin | and the base distro is what? | 01:58 |
| szopeen | 11.1p | 01:58 |
| szopeen | 0* | 01:58 |
| szopeen | or maybe I need to enable devel of some kind | 01:58 |
| mgedmin | are you saying you force-installed oneiric packages onto an oneiric system and that broke everything?? | 01:58 |
| szopeen | seems like it | 01:59 |
| szopeen | might be just missing devel(ish) repo | 01:59 |
| szopeen | so cries not found for latest versions | 01:59 |
| szopeen | not sure how buntu handles that | 01:59 |
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| szopeen | natty* | 02:01 |
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| szopeen | ok libpulse0 and libgnutls reinstall fixed it | 02:07 |
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| LaoLang_cool | Hi, is there some tool for sending sms on schedual? | 02:14 |
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| szopeen | cron + smssend? | 02:21 |
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| LaoLang_cool | szopeen: could you provide an example please? | 02:27 |
| szopeen | google man crontab | 02:27 |
| LaoLang_cool | say I want to send a msg "Hello" to 13913900999 on 2012/03/24 08:00 | 02:28 |
| LaoLang_cool | ok, will do it | 02:28 |
| szopeen | this will let you schedule running of smssend - command line sms sender | 02:28 |
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| LaoLang_cool | oh, I can't access to http://maemo.org/packages/view/smssend/ ... | 02:32 |
| szopeen | me neither atm | 02:33 |
| szopeen | seems not only talk.maemo... got problems | 02:33 |
| LaoLang_cool | ok... will wait for its working, thank you for your help, szopeen :) | 02:33 |
| szopeen | repo might be up, so apt-get install smssend could work | 02:34 |
| LaoLang_cool | oh, forgot it ;p | 02:34 |
| szopeen | thread about it is also working | 02:34 |
| szopeen | so you could possibly tinker, not sure though | 02:34 |
| LaoLang_cool | I'm reading the thread, yes, sounds it's what I'm looking for | 02:35 |
| LaoLang_cool | does clockd is a cron like app on maemo? | 02:37 |
| szopeen | crontab should be stock-installed | 02:38 |
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| szopeen | not sure what clockd offers | 02:38 |
| szopeen | both give me output (though clockd error of some kind), maybe busybox power only got crontab??? usyBox v1.19.3 (Debian 1.19.3power5) multi-call binary. this one definitely has it | 02:40 |
| LaoLang_cool | oh, maemo.org is back! | 02:41 |
| szopeen | you could always keep watch -n (seconds till send) xterm window open, but that is hardly useful | 02:41 |
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| LaoLang_cool | szopeen: yes. and I find cron or crontab doesn't exist on stable repo, maybe I have to get them from testing or unstable repo | 02:51 |
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| szopeen | what happens when you type crontab in xterm? | 02:52 |
| LaoLang_cool | szopeen: -sh: crontab: not found | 02:54 |
| szopeen | install busybox-power | 02:54 |
| LaoLang_cool | szopeen: thanks, it sounds interesting, will do it later, my N900 can't access network currently :( | 02:55 |
| szopeen | got it with latest it seems, so might need devel or testing, not sure | 02:56 |
| szopeen | but if you can use clockd for the same effect might be worth exploring (no idea what clockd is) | 02:56 |
| szopeen | if you get it running report back :) | 02:57 |
| szopeen | gotta run | 02:57 |
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| szop|afk | gn all | 02:57 |
| LaoLang_cool | oh, what's the font name in screenshot of busybox-power at http://oi54.tinypic.com/14v7dzm.jpg? looks beautifully | 03:01 |
| LaoLang_cool | szop|afk: thank you! | 03:01 |
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| LaoLang_cool | oh, it's not called clockd, it's named alarmd ;p | 03:05 |
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| loz` | hello | 05:25 |
| loz` | i cant update system repos on my n900, got ssl23_get_server_hello : unknown protocol error | 05:26 |
| psycho_oreos | sounds like you | 05:27 |
| psycho_oreos | you've removed https/ssl support? | 05:27 |
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| loz` | hm, how could i do that? | 05:28 |
| psycho_oreos | I don't know how you exactly did it, but it just sounds like https (or ssl) isn't supported or cannot be handled | 05:29 |
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| loz` | i'm behind transparent proxy btw, but https sites like gmail.com work find | 05:29 |
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| loz` | *fine | 05:29 |
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| psycho_oreos | I wonder if apt-proxy would help in this case, it might | 05:31 |
| loz` | looks like i dont have apt-proxy installed | 05:32 |
| loz` | i'm not a debian guy, but apt-cache search apt-proxy gives nothing | 05:33 |
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| psycho_oreos | you don't run apt-proxy on N900 :) but nevertheless, umm maybe this might help? http://blog.mypapit.net/2006/02/how-to-use-apt-get-behind-proxy-server-ubuntudebian.html | 05:34 |
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| loz` | ok, lets see | 05:35 |
| loz` | hm hm hm | 05:36 |
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| loz` | should i install bash? there is only ash by default | 05:36 |
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| Evanescence | how to backup N900 on Linux with command ? I hope to backup the whole N900 disk. | 05:37 |
| psycho_oreos | loz`, ash should be sufficient, I personally use bash myself so bash would almost be a necessity | 05:38 |
| psycho_oreos | Evanescence, not with command but you can try a program called backupmenu by robbiethe1st | 05:38 |
| Evanescence | psycho_oreos: I installed, but now N900 can not start backupmenu.... so I decide to backup whole N900 on Linux. like dd will clone whole disk. | 05:39 |
| loz` | psycho_oreos: could you tell how to properly upgrade repos from command line? :) | 05:40 |
| psycho_oreos | Evanescence, you do realise that dd is a very bad idea in general? | 05:40 |
| psycho_oreos | loz`, I don't normally upgrade via command line as I have extras-devel enabled and doing upgrades would instantly mess my setup | 05:41 |
| Evanescence | psycho_oreos: I do not know which method is simple and quick for N900 to backup whole disk. but I remember that command dd has similar function to clone whole disk. Just in case of I can not start backupmenu. | 05:42 |
| loz` | hm, look like i mean update repos cache | 05:42 |
| psycho_oreos | Evanescence, in short there isn't. You can't simply backup the entire N900 through dd and you can't tar the whole thing easily. There is an alternative method that I have in mind but I have not experimented (and I wouldn't want to as its pointless) | 05:44 |
| psycho_oreos | loz`, apt-get update | 05:44 |
| Evanescence | psycho_oreos: hmm, maybe Clonezilla can do this, but I do not know how to use Clonezilla to clone N900. Clonezilla should be able to clone different format filesystem. | 05:46 |
| psycho_oreos | Evanescence, even if theoretically lets say you can clone/backup through alternative means. Do you actually have a way to restore the cloned images without risking the brick? Don't forget that N900 has kernel which is inaccessible through block devices. I seriously think you're mulling over what if when backupmenu fails to work | 05:48 |
| psycho_oreos | err mulling too much | 05:48 |
| robbiethe1st | Well, DD will actually work to back things up, if you can getr access to the block devices... which are only exposed on-device | 05:49 |
| robbiethe1st | So, you have to have software setup on the device -- not on your connected PC -- to make the backuo | 05:50 |
| Evanescence | psycho_oreos: well, it's true, N900 now restart over and over again. can not startup. | 05:50 |
| robbiethe1st | Also, restore is an issue; again, you can't restore using DD unless you have some software on-device so you have access to the block devices. And, for the NAND flash, DD ignores bad-blocks. which makes things iffy(though it'll usually work if you are restoring to the same device). | 05:51 |
| loz` | psycho_oreos: ok, apt-get update works, and updated all repos, will i see new packages in app manager gui? | 05:51 |
| robbiethe1st | ...Which is why Backupmenu doesn't use DD anymore. | 05:51 |
| * psycho_oreos thinks dd is seriously not a useful tool to backup N900. 1) It'll create a rather large image of N900 which requires 32GB microSD card minimum, and 2) how the hell do you expect to restore that dd image? | 05:51 | |
| SpeedEvil | you don't backup mydocs | 05:52 |
| psycho_oreos | loz`, I'm presuming you won't | 05:52 |
| robbiethe1st | ...Well, as far as the MyDocs partition goes, that's easy - it can be exposed over USB, so you can simply run DD for backup and restore from your PC... which hopefully has more than 32GB of space | 05:52 |
| psycho_oreos | SpeedEvil, well yeah you run dd twice, one for rootfs and the other for maybe /opt && /home | 05:52 |
| robbiethe1st | It's the partitions *other* than MyDocs that are tricky | 05:52 |
| robbiethe1st | Especially since you can't expose the NAND flash over USB. At least, not that I know of. OptFS is possible, provided you're running from a ramdisk chroot and the FS isn't in use | 05:53 |
| robbiethe1st | I'd love to know of a way(May need a custom driver or something?) to expose the NAND partitions over USB Mass Storage... | 05:54 |
| robbiethe1st | Ah well. I'm off. Check the backupmenu forum topic for a flashable rootfs image with backupmenu, so you can rescue the stuff in your optfs(settings/config, etc) | 05:55 |
| robbiethe1st | rootfs is trashed if you can't boot off it, but you can save the optfs data if you like. | 05:56 |
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| robbiethe1st | Well, I'm off. | 05:56 |
| psycho_oreos | cya | 05:56 |
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| loz` | psycho_oreos: any way to force update work in gui? | 05:58 |
| psycho_oreos | loz`, force update? what about that update option in HAM? | 05:59 |
| loz` | hm, can i run it from terminal? only there i can set these proxy variables | 06:00 |
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| psycho_oreos | loz`, you mean in other words, these variables are ignored under HAM? | 06:01 |
| loz` | well, i havent found ash rc file | 06:02 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | hi, i wonder if someone can help me. i am trying to install the latest cssu update but im having problems. | 09:39 |
| HRH_H_Crab | i think i broke something with apt-get autoremove, and now the update wont install because it wants rtcom-accounts-voip-support. | 09:40 |
| HRH_H_Crab | now ive done some searching and im not the first to get this problem, however the suggest fix (apt-get install rtcom-accounts-voip-support) is failing with "no installation candidate found". | 09:40 |
| HRH_H_Crab | so i can only assume that ive broken my feeds / repository configuration in some way. | 09:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | that's strange | 09:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer | rtcom-accounts-voip-support should be in maemo base repo | 09:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry for spamming... | 09:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ # apt-cache policy rtcom-accounts-voip-support | 09:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | rtcom-accounts-voip-support: | 09:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | Installed: 4.140-1+0m5 | 09:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | Candidate: 4.140-1+0m5 | 09:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | Version table: | 09:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | *** 4.140-1+0m5 0 | 09:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | 500 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages | 09:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 09:49 |
| HRH_H_Crab | lo DocScrutinizer thanks for responding. | 09:50 |
| HRH_H_Crab | yes, ive found it referred to in many places | 09:50 |
| HRH_H_Crab | but if i try and install it tells me that no installation candidate is available. | 09:51 |
| HRH_H_Crab | apt-cache search shows a few other rtcom-blah packages | 09:51 |
| HRH_H_Crab | but not that one ;/ | 09:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | check your catalogs for https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com | 09:53 |
| HRH_H_Crab | roger | 09:53 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | DocScrutinizer: i have nokia applications: https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/apps/ and https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com/fremantle/ssu/205 | 09:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 09:58 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | just letting ham do its thing and ill try again but i dont think it will work. | 09:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | dunno right now... maybe ask somebody of the repo wizards about it | 09:58 |
| HRH_H_Crab | well ive made a few posts. | 09:59 |
| HRH_H_Crab | ill stick about throughout the day and ask again when busier. | 09:59 |
| HRH_H_Crab | thanks for your help anyway. | 09:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.org/packages/view/rtcom-accounts-voip-support/ | 10:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | install using dpkg | 10:01 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | DocScrutinizer: yeah i thought of that | 10:02 |
| HRH_H_Crab | and im possibly being a massive thicko | 10:02 |
| HRH_H_Crab | but i cant seem to find binaries for it there. | 10:02 |
| HRH_H_Crab | i mean, if you go to the left and look at the other packages you can find .debs | 10:02 |
| HRH_H_Crab | but not for this one! :| | 10:02 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | wow! | 10:03 |
| HRH_H_Crab | i think its fixed. | 10:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | BWAHAHA: Maemo 5 device root filesystem (>= PR1.2) rtcom-accounts-voip-support 4.140-1+0m5;; Maemo 5 device SSU repository (>= PR1.2) rtcom-accounts-voip-support 4.131-1+0m5 --- look at the versions | 10:03 |
| HRH_H_Crab | yep | 10:03 |
| HRH_H_Crab | looks like i have it! | 10:03 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | i dunno what has happened here. | 10:03 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | id removed those two repositorys (the nokia ones) AFTER i saw this problem. | 10:04 |
| HRH_H_Crab | thats why i didnt think putting them back would work | 10:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | SSU older than rootfs | 10:04 |
| HRH_H_Crab | but it seems to have made apt rethink something. | 10:04 |
| HRH_H_Crab | its just installed it. | 10:04 |
| HRH_H_Crab | i promise you, it happened just like im describing! | 10:04 |
| HRH_H_Crab | im not actually crazy! | 10:04 |
| HRH_H_Crab | :) | 10:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet it did | 10:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | always does | 10:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's some severe fsckup about this and a few other pkgs | 10:05 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | to be fair, | 10:05 |
| HRH_H_Crab | the "severe fsckup" (the one im taking credit for) | 10:05 |
| HRH_H_Crab | occurred when i had a thought process that went: | 10:06 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | "yay! apt-get autoremove! i know exactly what im doing as i am an expert!" | 10:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I again bet it included "apt-get autoremove" | 10:06 |
| HRH_H_Crab | right im going to be late for work. | 10:07 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | as im not leaving th flat without shiny new cssu! | 10:07 |
| HRH_H_Crab | :) | 10:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=70875&highlight=sip | 10:07 |
| HRH_H_Crab | yes i know! :( | 10:07 |
| HRH_H_Crab | its still strange though. | 10:08 |
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| HRH_H_Crab | i mean the warnings are dire, and so they should be, | 10:08 |
| HRH_H_Crab | but it should be easily fixed with apt-get install | 10:08 |
| HRH_H_Crab | i have no idea what made my repositories go crazy. | 10:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nfc, sometimes some of the repo servers act strange, and maybe deliver bogus info about available pkgs etc | 10:15 |
| HRH_H_Crab | anyway, thanks for your technical support and spiritual (and medical) guidance. | 10:16 |
| HRH_H_Crab | it is much appreciated! | 10:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway check you got the newer version of rtcom | 10:16 |
| HRH_H_Crab | will do. | 10:16 |
| HRH_H_Crab | cssu upgraded now so all looks good. | 10:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | rtcom-accounts-voip-support 4.140-1+0m5 looks good to me, vs rtcom-accounts-voip-support 4.131-1+0m5 | 10:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | what, what was it I got...? | 10:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | 140, pfffooh | 10:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | I dunno if the difference is any noticeable, but anyway it's rather strange rootfs-version is newer than SSU version. Another indication why this problem only appears for those that updated to 1.2 via SSU, not for those who flashed (IIRC) | 10:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | maybe it was other way round, as I frequently have to reinstall rtcom-voip after every cssu update | 10:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-/ | 10:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | we still seem to have not completely squished that bug | 10:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | as I said, sth thoroughly fsckdup in apt and repo dependencies | 10:22 |
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| Krisostoomus_ | can anyone give me any underground movies links? | 10:29 |
| Sicelo | lol | 10:30 |
| Krisostoomus_ | Like example, if i want to watch matrix from computer, then has anyone got a link? | 10:30 |
| Krisostoomus_ | You understand i'm talking to you? | 10:31 |
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| psycho_oreos | this is not a warez channel | 10:34 |
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| Krisostoomus_ | Thanks for the info! | 10:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | koo3: koo4 ko1 koo5 what's wrong with your clients? so many clients, no bouncer? | 10:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and what's wrong with yur client koo2? ;-D | 10:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | k1o: waaah | 10:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | koo5: please check your irc client's settings, it looks to me it's picking a new nick every time $random-condition happens (roaming, joining new chan? dunno), while not dropping the old connection | 10:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | this for sure is not what you want your client to do | 10:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, xchat | 10:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | I can't even figure what you did | 10:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway that's odd for sure | 10:52 |
| edheldil | DocScrutinizer: you seem to be talking with yourself | 10:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | why do you think so? | 10:52 |
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| edheldil | because koo* probably whispers to you | 10:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, ok | 10:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | whatever you say | 10:53 |
| edheldil | np, just found it funny | 10:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, would you find it less funny to /kick ko*[0-9] | 10:54 |
| edheldil | we should kill Baggins, my precious, we should ;-) | 10:54 |
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| edheldil | you can whisper back. I did not want to offend you | 10:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | you can use /whois to get a better idea what might be going on with koo | 10:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm just trying to keep channel sane, and help users | 10:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | and, as we all should be aware, IRC is an async medium. No need for koo* to answer right away | 10:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2012-03-23 09:47:35] [Whois] koo5 ist seit 1 Stunde, 44 Minuten und 3 Sekunden untätig. | 10:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2012-03-23 09:47:35] [Whois] koo5 ist seit dem 2012-03-23 08:03:31 online. | 10:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2012-03-23 09:41:24] [Whois] ko1 ist seit 1 Tag, 7 Stunden, 20 Minuten und 48 Sekunden untätig. | 10:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2012-03-23 09:41:24] [Whois] ko1 ist seit dem 2012-03-13 16:26:01 online. | 10:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | anyway, help yourself now, I'm off | 10:59 |
| HRH_H_Crab | DocScrutinizer: for what its worth i updated rather than flashing. | 10:59 |
| HRH_H_Crab | o.k. have a good day! and thanks again for your help earlier. | 10:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | HRH_H_Crab: thanks for mentioning | 11:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | YW | 11:00 |
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| dafox | hi all. Since A few days ago I updated my n900 to newest CSSU (I think it's 2.1, with 1.2 already installed). Since then my phone seems to sometimes get confused about whether it is in landscape/portrait orientation. | 11:24 |
| dafox | Does anyone know what might be going on? | 11:24 |
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| Sicelo | dafox: /join #maemo-ssu | 11:36 |
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| koo5 | DocScrutinizer, ill look into it later,must run now:) it gets less sane when xchat misteriously disappears and i start a new one:) | 12:11 |
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| berk | I have an issue with maemo and hildon desktop. I installed theme customizer and I set a new theme and next a new font. After that hildon began to hang so I remove theme customizer and hildon. Next I tried to reinstall hildon with apt-get install hildon-desktop and I get the following error => http://pastebin.com/AuJ0VJFJ | 22:21 |
| berk | Do you know how can I resolv this ? | 22:21 |
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