IRC log of #maemo for Thursday, 2012-02-23

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freemangordonPali, ping00:07
Palipong00:07
freemangordonI think there is something wrong with your latest  KP .debs00:08
freemangordonI've never seen those missing symbols00:08
freemangordonfrom KP development thread00:08
Palithat missing symbols was in v49 too00:09
Paliat least on my n9000:09
Pali*n90000:09
freemangordonkp49 in repos?00:09
Palidont remember00:09
Palibut I saw that missing symbols in some v49 (maybe pre or repo) version00:10
Palifreemangordon, I cannot kill fm* processes - it is OK?00:11
freemangordongive me a minute to find the thread00:11
freemangordonPali, do you have fcam drivers?00:12
Palino00:12
freemangordonwhen do those messages appear, right after a reboot?00:13
freemangordonPali ^^^00:13
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freemangordonPali, cannot reproduce it here00:17
[DarkGUNMAN]quick quesstion. is there a way to disable font antialiasing in maemo?00:17
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[DarkGUNMAN]or is there a way to convert ttf to bitmap?00:21
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freemangordon[DarkGUNMAN] programatically?00:24
[DarkGUNMAN]system wide font00:24
freemangordonI meant: in runtime, or offline using some tool?00:24
[DarkGUNMAN]if converting ttf to bitmap it would be a tool.00:25
[DarkGUNMAN]if disabling antialiasing then it would be useful to know00:25
[DarkGUNMAN]may speed up page rendering in some apps00:25
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[DarkGUNMAN]tesing it against phoneme00:26
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freemangordonwell, but why don't do it as a part of the code?00:27
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freemangordonyou cannot convert all the fonts and all the sizes before running the app00:27
[DarkGUNMAN]I'll suggest it to the author and see if he can disable it in code00:28
freemangordonif he is using QT, then i can bet it is possible00:28
[DarkGUNMAN]i'd like to generate a bitmap font myself with set sizes. any good tools you could suggest?00:29
[DarkGUNMAN]yeah i think part of the code is qt, could work00:30
freemangordonnope, I am trying to stay away from fonts :)00:30
freemangordonlet me check what can be done with QFont00:30
freemangordon[DarkGUNMAN], QFont::setStyleStrategy(QFont::NoAntialias) ;)00:32
freemangordonNFC if that actually works00:33
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[DarkGUNMAN]i'll pass it on. Thank you :)00:37
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dolehello01:13
doleis it possible to update libc6 on Maemo with package from debian.org?01:14
doleor any other way01:14
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* Doc_No_ACTA_zer mumbles "Frage an Radio Eriwan: Kann Mercedes fahren um 90° kruve mit 120 Kilometer schnell? - Antwort von Radio Eriwan: In Prinzip ja, aber nur einmal"01:20
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerdole: probably it would be easier to find an answer for you that doesn'T sound like Radio Eriwan, when you would tell what's your problem, rather than asking if it is possible to do something weird01:22
doleDoc_No_ACTA_zer: I want to install this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/armel/hydra-gtk/6.5-101:23
doleand to do that, I need "hydra"01:23
dolewhich need libc6 >=2.701:24
Doc_No_ACTA_zerwell for sure you can try to compile libc6>=2.7 for fremantle and then install it *locally* for hydra. I doubt fremantle in general will be happy with a new libc601:27
Doc_No_ACTA_zerprobably you even could link hydra statically01:28
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doleI did try to install it, and yes, the n900 didn´t like it01:28
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doleI reflashing my phone as we speak01:28
Doc_No_ACTA_zerbut to be honest, I doubt hydra will work on N900 without massive tweaking01:28
doleI guess you are right01:29
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dolemaybe I should find an alternative01:29
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerwell, I think there should be chroot environments that have all the dependencies you need01:30
Doc_No_ACTA_zeryet I dunno how lowlevel is the stuff that h<dra does01:30
dolehere is a list of dependens for hydra: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/armel/hydra/6.5-101:31
doleif it is any help01:31
Doc_No_ACTA_zerthis only trnasposes the problem01:31
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerthen it's not the question "can hydra tweak TOS bits in IP packets" but "can libc6 do that when compiled for N900 and running on stock kernel" - to pick a random made up example01:33
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doleah, I see01:33
dolemaybe I can find an older version of hydra that doesn´t need libc6 2.701:34
doleI guess that would make everything a lot easier01:34
Doc_No_ACTA_zerif you can find a version that doesn't list lib deps that are not available on fremantle, then your chances are good to get it to work01:34
doleyeah01:34
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Doc_No_ACTA_zertbh I have nfc what libc6 version is standard on fremantle01:35
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dole2.501:36
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dolei found the source code for hydra 6.101:38
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doleI don´t think it will need libc6 2.701:39
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerI still wonder if standard GTK will work on Hildon01:48
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hakkattakkyeah, it would be great if it did work01:48
Doc_No_ACTA_zerGeneralAntilles: heyhey, long time no see of your gan900 imperonation01:48
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hakkattakkI´m kinda suprised of all the programs I have got to work on the n90001:49
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hakkattakkOnesixtyone, SIPVicious, Yersinia01:50
hakkattakkMetasploit01:50
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hakkattakkand there are som usefull programs in the repo too01:50
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hakkattakklike WireShark and Kismet01:51
Doc_No_ACTA_zerwell, it's GNU userland and X1101:51
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Doc_No_ACTA_zereven a sane kernel, though a bit over-mature01:51
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerhakkattakk: even aircrack01:52
Doc_No_ACTA_zerand the way more useful tshark01:52
hakkattakkyeah01:52
Doc_No_ACTA_zeras wireshark is useless without a 1280*800 monitor01:52
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hakkattakkCleven is really nice01:53
hakkattakkI couldn´t get Wifite to work though01:53
hakkattakkdoesn´t do package injection01:53
Doc_No_ACTA_zeryeah, the fremantle maemo community is a nice bunch01:53
hakkattakkbut with Cleven it worked really nice01:54
hakkattakk:)01:54
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerI think you need lxp's wifi driver for proper monitormode and injection01:54
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerafaik with stock kernel and drivers even airodump only monitors chan601:55
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerand aireplay no dice01:56
Doc_No_ACTA_zerunless of course you use a second WLAN-USB dongle ;-D01:56
hakkattakkyeah, but I loaded the drivers from cleven, and removed the line that pointed to the "loaddriver"-script in wifite. So I guess it used the packet injection-drivers fron cleven01:57
hakkattakkbut it still didn´t work01:57
hakkattakkbut Cleven is really nice too, so I guess I can use that instead01:57
Doc_No_ACTA_zernever looked into it01:57
Doc_No_ACTA_zerI'm not a pen guy01:57
hakkattakkme neither, but I want too be some day01:58
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Doc_No_ACTA_zeror... I  feel more relaxed when I don't have to be one ;-D01:58
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerbut it's nice to know I could any time01:59
hakkattakkwhat do you work with then?01:59
Doc_No_ACTA_zererrr01:59
hakkattakkor do you study?01:59
Doc_No_ACTA_zerATM winXP, and Clearcase, eclipse etc, to build the guts of your next phone02:00
Doc_No_ACTA_zerI.E. LTS stack and system02:00
Doc_No_ACTA_zerLTE02:00
hakkattakkah02:01
Doc_No_ACTA_zerhakkattakk: http://www.stericsson.com/products/m7400-thor.jsp02:04
hakkattakkso you develop the firmware/software for the LTE-modem in that computer?02:05
hakkattakkor devices in general02:05
Doc_No_ACTA_zerin which computer?02:06
hakkattakkI mean in any devices02:06
hakkattakkthe picture and the modelname "M7400" confuses me02:07
Doc_No_ACTA_zeryep, I develop/debug the firmware inside modem02:07
hakkattakkcool02:07
Doc_No_ACTA_zerM7400 is STE modem chip codename Thorium02:07
hakkattakkhaven´t heard of STE before02:08
hakkattakkor do you mean LTE?02:08
Doc_No_ACTA_zerST-Micro&Ericsson02:08
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Doc_No_ACTA_zeraka ST Ericsson, short STE02:09
hakkattakkI see02:09
Doc_No_ACTA_zeryou most likely already own a phone with a chipset of Ericsson02:10
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hakkattakkprobably02:11
hakkattakkI have a lot of phones02:11
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerhakkattakk: check out NovaThor chips - brilliant02:14
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hakkattakkall in one02:15
Doc_No_ACTA_zeryup02:15
hakkattakkI guess you can make a really small phone with that chip02:15
Doc_No_ACTA_zer:nod:02:15
Doc_No_ACTA_zerless slder points -> less points of failure02:16
Doc_No_ACTA_zersolder*02:16
hakkattakkyeah02:16
hakkattakkI see that it has F02:16
hakkattakk*FM02:16
hakkattakkdoes that include transmitter?02:16
hakkattakkor is it just a FM-reciever?02:17
Doc_No_ACTA_zerIIRC yes02:17
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hakkattakkthats awesome02:17
hakkattakkis there any device that use that chip?02:18
Doc_No_ACTA_zerthat chip doesn't exist yet02:18
hakkattakkto bad02:18
Doc_No_ACTA_zerM7400 is top notch ATM02:18
Doc_No_ACTA_zerand there are Nova chips, e.g. on snowball board02:19
Doc_No_ACTA_zerso for now you have to combine a Nova APE with a Thor 7400 chipset to get what NovaThor will ship on one pkg02:20
hakkattakkOk, when will NovaThor be on the market?02:21
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Doc_No_ACTA_zerooh, I have to correct myself, the U9xxx and lesser siblings might already be on market (I am strictly modem side, so dunno what APE side development does right now)02:23
Doc_No_ACTA_zeranyway there's no one-chip solution in NovaThor for LTE yet, afaik02:24
Doc_No_ACTA_zerand sorry, even if I were allowed to talk about that, I don't have a clue when the chip bakers think they can go primetime. We are 'just* the poor SW devels that make the rocks jump inside modem02:25
hakkattakk:p02:26
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Doc_No_ACTA_zernetsplit?02:28
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hakkattakkjust got THC-Hydra working :)03:14
hakkattakkor installed03:14
hakkattakkI will see if I can get the GTK to work03:15
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arvutI need to wake up a pc behind a homerouter that is connected to a 2nd homerouter (which I'm currently connected to with my N900 over wifi). the problem is, the inner router blocks woller as "dos attacks" and I see that it uses a different port each time I try to send the magic package. so what I need to do is tell the first router (my AP) to send the magic package to a certain port. how do I tell a WOL client to do that? woller allows me to send magic packag03:26
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hakkattakkAwesome, just "hacked" one user from my ftp-server with THC-Hydra on my n900 :)03:55
hakkattakk*with my n90003:55
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hakkattakkarvut: I have tried a few WOL-clients on my n900 and they haven´t worked. But I have always been able to set the port04:00
hakkattakkI think the standardport for WOL is 904:00
hakkattakkwhat model do you have on the inner router?04:01
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Gear_how do I get mappero to talk in english12:10
Gear_and is there a way of marking speed traps, red light cameras and speed cameras?12:10
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Gear_and having those announced too12:11
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DocScrutinizer51there's been some chatch with espeak lang used by mappero, but I cant remember12:28
DocScrutinizer51catch*12:28
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DocScrutinizer51~botsnack17:02
infobotDocScrutinizer51: thanks17:02
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GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer, it's a zombie. The proxy's been weird. Haven't used it in forever since there's no decent IRC client for Harmattan. . . .17:47
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freemangordonPali, ping18:09
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Palipong, freemangordon19:32
freemangordonPali, did you try my KP debs?19:32
Palino19:32
Palibut I played with fmtxd19:33
Paliwhen I enabled, disabled fmtxd & rebooted device, no fmtxd is running19:33
Paliand no fmtxd errors in syslog19:33
Paliand battery draining decreased19:34
freemangordonmy major concern is about those isp_mod messages19:34
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freemangordonwould you try it? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1168647&postcount=285119:34
Palinot now, I need today and tomorrow working phone :D19:35
freemangordonwell, it is working on my primary device :D, but ok19:35
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RST38hOMAP 5's dual A15 cores wipe the floor with four A9s in browsing benchmark20:57
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