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| arvut | hi.. can I write a script that will turn on the fmtransmitter, connect to a nearby wifi and then tune in to a shoutcaststream via the mediaplayer? I'm thinking cron or fcron and bash.. but maybe there is need for actual programming in order to do this? | 06:31 |
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| lofty306 | sounds like an alamrmclaaock | 06:41 |
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| Gear_ | hey does anyone here use emulators? | 07:06 |
| Gear_ | I'm looking for a psx one that works | 07:06 |
| Gear_ | or neogeo | 07:06 |
| Gear_ | also I'm running the latest power kernel, I can't find a usb host mode enabler, is it in the devel repository or what? | 07:07 |
| robbiethe1st | H-E-N | 07:07 |
| robbiethe1st | h-e-n is the package IIRC | 07:08 |
| Gear_ | what package | 07:08 |
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| Gear_ | is it in devel | 07:09 |
| Gear_ | it's not in extras testing | 07:09 |
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| oilinki | after battery change, my n900 will forget the date and time. it goes back to 2009. I installed openntpd with correct server. time and date does not change. | 07:43 |
| oilinki | I also put "update automatically" on settings -> time and date. still no change to the correct time/date | 07:43 |
| oilinki | and I have 2 ntpd processes running | 07:44 |
| oilinki | any other solutions available? | 07:45 |
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| oilinki | hmm.. I hade to change the date to be closer to this date. tried 36 hours late time | 07:58 |
| luke-jr | oilinki: N900 assumes it gets time from cellular network | 08:03 |
| oilinki | luke-jr: seems that my network (DTAC, Thailand) does not support the feature | 08:03 |
| oilinki | I need to find some other solution as I have to change battery while I'm geocaching. | 08:04 |
| oilinki | I'm trying with busybox power | 08:04 |
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| SpeedEvil | oilinki: openntpd | 08:07 |
| SpeedEvil | oilinki: or something similar to that | 08:07 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 08:07 |
| SpeedEvil | right - nvm | 08:07 |
| oilinki | I tried that, but not work | 08:07 |
| oilinki | anyway I need to check the server again | 08:07 |
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| oilinki | i don't seem to get rdate working. | 08:40 |
| * Sicelo uses ntpdate | 08:42 | |
| Sicelo | and i put script to run it whenever an interface comes up | 08:43 |
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| oilinki | where did you found the ntpdate? | 08:47 |
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| Sicelo | not too sure anymore .. but i can upload for u, if u wish | 08:48 |
| oilinki | that would be great | 08:48 |
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| Sicelo | found original location | 08:49 |
| oilinki | upload to web or by IRC? not sure if the IRC option works with my proxy. | 08:49 |
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| Sicelo | http://home.mminternet.com/delaroca/index.html/ | 08:49 |
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| oilinki | Sicelo: big thanks! | 08:49 |
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| Sicelo | yw | 08:50 |
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| Sicelo | of course u need to `hwclock -w` afterwards :0 | 08:56 |
| Sicelo | :) | 08:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oilinki: openntpd is not the best (or even right) solution to particularly this problem, at least in standard config, with running daemon all the time | 09:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | aah, Sicelo__ had the correct suggestion | 09:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Sicelo__: oilinki: (hwclock --systohc) only &&, otherwise you'll set it to nonsense time when ntpdate failed. also use --noadjfile | 09:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | (--noadjfile) *very* important | 09:36 |
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| Sicelo | i haven't one .. so far all's been ok.. but i get the point | 09:39 |
| Sicelo | :) | 09:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | oilinki: if you want to avoid all the trouble, you'd either want to replace the backup battery coin cell by a capacitor, or learn to minimize the time the device is without main battery. Even with broken backup bat (usual on this crappy cell) the RTC should survive some 10 seconds, for sur it survives 3s | 09:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~bupbat | 09:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm, ibot gone again | 09:42 |
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| SpeedEvil | Indeed - it's pretty trivail to change teh battery in sub 0.5s | 09:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | (ntpdate) openntpd --foobar is the same | 09:44 |
| SpeedEvil | lift up edge of battery opposite contacts, slife in new battery under old. | 09:44 |
| SpeedEvil | slide. | 09:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 09:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | works like it was designed for that | 09:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | wait, did you say "geocaching" ? | 09:45 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders what's status of GPS stratum-x server for ntpd | 09:46 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | has anybody finally added that elementary GPS function yet? | 09:47 |
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| Gear_ | what's this about changing the battery in under 0.5s ? | 09:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Gear_: not to lose your RTC time | 09:47 |
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| Gear_ | it only takes 0.5s to lose it? | 09:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | when you're member of the broken-bupbat club (a club with many members) | 09:48 |
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| Gear_ | that's so crap. | 09:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | no, it usually takes 10 .. 120s even when bupbat is borked | 09:48 |
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| Gear_ | I lost the time when I took the screen off | 09:48 |
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| Gear_ | that took like 10 minutes at least | 09:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | alas this cell is *known* to break for ~90% of users after 12 months | 09:49 |
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| Gear_ | which cell? where is it? | 09:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | it should keep the RTC up for several weeks or even months, by design | 09:49 |
| Gear_ | or at least 10-20 minutes :/ | 09:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | inside, soldered to PCB, next to power button | 09:50 |
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| Gear_ | that sounds like a bitch to get to | 09:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | it is, somewhat | 09:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | anyway I found a nice replacement for those of you who want to do the soldering fancy | 09:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | alas infobot is down right now | 09:51 |
| Gear_ | what size cell is it? | 09:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer | when she's back, you can ask her for ~bupbat IIRC | 09:51 |
| Gear_ | I was thinking about soldering the usb connector pretty soon | 09:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | Gear_: IIRC 11mm dia, 1.2mm thick | 09:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | replace by supercap | 09:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | as the LiIon type cells are prone to break | 09:52 |
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| Gear_ | what's supercap | 09:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | my replacement suggestion is a compatible drop in replacement C-type | 09:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | Gear_: 1Farad capacitor, sth like that | 09:53 |
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| Gear_ | one farad? | 09:53 |
| Gear_ | that's not possible | 09:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep, SIC | 09:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | it is possible | 09:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | see goldcap, supercap etc | 09:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | maybe that particular cell replacement has just 0.1F | 09:55 |
| Gear_ | the last one farad capacitor I saw was HUGE | 09:55 |
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| Gear_ | since when is battery life measured in farads | 09:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | I don't mind how much F it has, it's a replacement made for that purpose, and it's a C | 09:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | seems I recall it has 70mF actually | 09:56 |
| Gear_ | haveyou soldered the usb connector? | 09:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | have to run for daywork, cya | 09:56 |
| Gear_ | damn. bye | 09:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | ask SpeedEvil about supercap etc, he knows about it since FR iirc | 09:57 |
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| Gear_ | I wanna know if the usb host mode can be activated by command line | 09:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 09:58 |
| Gear_ | and I also want to install some emulators | 09:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | no problem | 09:58 |
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| StyXman_ | the media player does not find my music files. how can I force a rescanning? | 11:21 |
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| StyXman_ | at least I can tell SomePlayer where to find them, and it plays them ok | 11:23 |
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| eijk | StyXman_: You can try moving the files to a different place and back after a while | 11:28 |
| eijk | There's also an option to rebuild the whole DB. I don't know off hand, but I think it's in the wiki. | 11:28 |
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| StyXman_ | eijk: I can´t even find the right keywords to search in the wiki | 11:31 |
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| eijk | StyXman_: Google "n900 rebuild media database" will give you as second match http://blog.tersmitten.nl/archives/961 | 11:34 |
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| eijk | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43523 | 11:35 |
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| StyXman_ | eijk: ah, duh, I stopped when I didn´t find it in the wiki :[ | 11:36 |
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| eijk | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80738 | 11:37 |
| eijk | StyXman_: yeah, I guess, it's not in the wiki | 11:38 |
| StyXman_ | yeah, silly me | 11:39 |
| StyXman_ | ok, thanks | 11:39 |
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| donc_oe | guys, is maemo still being worked on? or is it rather a dead horse ... | 13:09 |
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| donc_oe | it's been a while since i recieved the last update on my n900 | 13:09 |
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| Sicelo | lol | 14:15 |
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| staz_ | hey | 15:18 |
| staz_ | anyone has an idea on how to change the Maintainer on a maemo package? | 15:18 |
| staz_ | I changed the field in the .deb and got the original maintainer to promote my package but apparently it doesn't update automatically on the web interface | 15:19 |
| staz_ | so I can't promote future version | 15:19 |
| ShadowJK | maybe try poke X-Fade | 15:21 |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile: Report: Saudi Arabia to buy nukes if Iran tests A-bomb | 15:41 |
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| staz_ | X-Fade: poke? can you help me change the Maintainer on a maemo package? | 15:42 |
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| X-Fade | staz_: Sure, what's up? | 15:50 |
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| staz_ | X-Fade: wjt doesn't want to maintain his Sojourner package since he doesn't have a n900 anymore so I agreed to do it in his stead | 16:38 |
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| staz_ | but we can't find out how to change the maintainer on the website so I can promote package directly | 16:38 |
| X-Fade | staz_: On the packages site, you can request to be maintainer. | 16:38 |
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| X-Fade | staz_: http://maemo.org/packages/view/sojourner/ (if you are logged in) | 16:39 |
| staz_ | wow can't believe I missed that, thanks a lot! | 16:40 |
| staz_ | X-Fade: he will be the one that need to accept the request? | 16:41 |
| X-Fade | staz_: Yes, or I can do it too. | 16:41 |
| staz_ | it's ok I will ask him to do it | 16:42 |
| staz_ | thanks | 16:42 |
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| X-Fade | staz_: Yeah, so you can request it there and he can approve you there. | 16:42 |
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| Gear_ | hey does anyone here use emulators | 17:08 |
| Gear_ | in particular I'm looking for anyone who is using working neogeo or psx emulators | 17:10 |
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| Gear_ | hello | 19:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | EHLO | 19:42 |
| merlin1991 | 'lo | 19:43 |
| Gear_ | there's a huge lack of music production software for the n900 | 19:43 |
| Gear_ | as in, ALL of it | 19:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah, there's been some sorta synthesizer IIRC | 19:44 |
| Gear_ | I found a piano and something else, adn they're both just toys :/ | 19:45 |
| virtuald | 501 Syntax: EHLO hostname | 19:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | there's a realy hurtin lack of any video editing SW though | 19:45 |
| Gear_ | also sound editing software | 19:45 |
| Gear_ | the thing would be a powerhouse | 19:45 |
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| DocScrutinizer | EHLO unaffiliated/virtuald | 19:45 |
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| virtuald | 250-STARTTLS | 19:46 |
| Gear_ | SpeedEvil | 19:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | FRQJKFDJDKJFE | 19:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | . | 19:47 |
| virtuald | :) | 19:47 |
| Gear_ | how come I'm banned from #electronics | 19:47 |
| Gear_ | I've never even used freenode in my life | 19:47 |
| Sicelo | synthesizer ==sunvox | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | Gear_: mompls, I'll check | 19:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | or not, too much hussle | 19:47 |
| Gear_ | can you guess? | 19:48 |
| Gear_ | I think I opened xchat like 9 hours ago | 19:48 |
| Gear_ | and didn't use it, now it says I can't send to the channel while banned | 19:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | your domain might be banned: vic.optusnet.com.au | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | User might be banned | 19:49 |
| Gear_ | not me | 19:49 |
| Gear_ | I hope not my whole isp | 19:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually I think it's more likely they don't want lamers that use "User" for username | 19:50 |
| Gear_ | what username | 19:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | [Whois] Gear_ ist ~User@d110-33-182-10.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au (User) | 19:50 |
| Gear_ | how do I change that | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | in xchat go to settings | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually go to network list | 19:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | pick "freenode" from list of networks -> edit | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | "your details" | 19:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | there's "nickname" (obvious, uh?), "user name" and "real name" | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | the real name is the "(User)" above, while "user name" is the "User@d1..." above | 19:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | IIRC | 19:54 |
| Gear_ | there aren't those options | 19:54 |
| Gear_ | can't I use /ident | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, no windoze here, I'm deducing it from xchat for N900 | 19:54 |
| Gear_ | yeah I'm using a netbook | 19:54 |
| Gear_ | what's the irc command for it? | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | NFC, there's no "IRC cmmand" it's a setting in your client | 19:55 |
| merlin1991 | Gear_: protocol wise it's sent before anything else and there is no command to change it | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | as far as I hate Windoze, I'd guess: file->networklist | 19:55 |
| merlin1991 | so the client has to know about beforehand | 19:55 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: yep right | 19:55 |
| Gear_ | can't find the setting | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | network list - you found that? | 19:56 |
| merlin1991 | find the setting where you set up to connect to freenode, then there is a tick for use global ident | 19:57 |
| merlin1991 | untick and insted insert proper information | 19:57 |
| merlin1991 | or fix your global ident settings (though I have nfc where's that) | 19:57 |
| merlin1991 | and ofc reconnect when you're done | 19:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | recall my MX5500 bitching, anybody? | 19:58 |
| merlin1991 | yep | 19:58 |
| merlin1991 | also recall you posting some url with wierd ass driver | 19:58 |
| merlin1991 | did it blow up by now? | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, meanwhile the cutest most expensive mouse on earth lost its single unique feature | 19:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | wheel doesn't have clicks anymore | 19:59 |
| merlin1991 | and that would be (mouse and feature) ? | 19:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I.E. even while in click-by-click mode, the wheel is mostly freewheeeling | 20:00 |
| merlin1991 | ouch | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | mech defect | 20:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | after 5 days | 20:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and BOY, that SUCKS to have a free spinning wheel that moves on slightest touch | 20:01 |
| Gear_ | is anyone here into electronics | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | shoot | 20:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | EE here | 20:02 |
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| Gear_ | I want to mix like 3 line level signals into 1 output | 20:02 |
| Gear_ | since they're all being attenuated | 20:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, yes? | 20:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | go ahead | 20:03 |
| Gear_ | can I just have like a common ground and sort of fade the signal into the one source with apot? | 20:03 |
| Gear_ | or will that blow all my stuff up. | 20:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nah, you can't blow up stuff on line in/out | 20:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | unless you connect it to mains ;-P | 20:04 |
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| Gear_ | will that work for mixing a few different signals into the one? | 20:05 |
| kerio | dammit, the droid 4 was released on verizon today | 20:05 |
| kerio | and it doesn't have umts | 20:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | connect each of 3 line-out to both ends of a 500R potentiometer, connect all GND sides, connect the 3 middle pins of the 3 pots via 3 500R into 1 output | 20:06 |
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| Gear_ | whats' 500R ? | 20:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | better yet: connect the inputs to the middle pins of the pots, and the upper pins to the 500R that go to output | 20:07 |
| Gear_ | I want to use a separate pot for each | 20:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | 500 Ohm | 20:07 |
| Gear_ | probably a stereo signal too | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | each pot has 3 pins: 1, 2, 3. 2 is the middle one, that'S "moving" | 20:08 |
| Gear_ | wiper | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | you connect all pins 1 and GND of inputs and outputs | 20:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you connect each input to one pin 2 of a pot | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | you connect a 500R resistor to each pin 3 | 20:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you connect the other end of all 3 resistors to output | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | for stereo, take this x 2 | 20:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | if you can't find 500R (470R) pots, you can also use 1kR | 20:11 |
| * DocScrutinizer idly wonders if a linear or a log pot was the best choice for this circuit and usecase | 20:12 | |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess linear will do | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | umm, no, use log pots | 20:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | otherwise you'll not hear much of a difference in volume for the upper half of your pot range | 20:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, I'm a bit tired right now, don't blame me if your results are not 100% ideal | 20:15 |
| Gear_ | I'm trying to picture it | 20:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm calculating the whole mess in my head | 20:15 |
| Gear_ | but it's also 5:20am and I have to sleep | 20:16 |
| Gear_ | thanks for the help | 20:16 |
| * RST38h yawns wonders what's up | 20:16 | |
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| Gear_ | but I'll probably ask again | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | it:s 19:16 here, time for a first beer after a week of windoze annoyance | 20:16 |
| merlin1991 | hrhrhr | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: passive 3 in 1 audio mixer | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | line level | 20:17 |
| Gear_ | I'll come back with this question tomorrow or something | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | NP | 20:17 |
| Gear_ | cheers | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | YW | 20:18 |
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| arvut | hi, is there a way to type unicode chars in maemo5 on the n900? | 20:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: source impedance ~10...500R, load impedance ~1...50k | 20:19 |
| arvut | I need the utf-8 char number 158 dec/9E hex | 20:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/block/miscellaneous_symbols/utf8test.htm | 20:21 |
| arvut | DocScrutinizer: isnt there a way to type it within the OS then? | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/block/index.htm | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 20:22 |
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| RST38h | Doc: Well, if it is going to make any sound, it won;t be much | 20:23 |
| RST38h | And WON'T BE FOR LONG | 20:23 |
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| arvut | DocScrutinizer: do you know how? | 20:24 |
| arvut | I guess I could try to write a small c++ program that prints it in xterm but surely there must be an easier way | 20:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | printf \uHHHH Unicode (ISO/IEC 10646) character with hex value HHHH (4 digits) | 20:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: eh? | 20:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: I said "line level", not powerline level, neither speaker level | 20:26 |
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| arvut | can it be a 2digit hexvalue? | 20:27 |
| arvut | or must it be \u009E | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | thugh you're right, for the nastiest of devices - those with a source impedance of <16R - you should get a series 100R in the input, not to fry the pot | 20:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | arvut: man 1 printf | 20:28 |
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| arvut | hmm "printf \u009E" only returns \u009E | 20:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | arvut: printf '\u\x00\x24' | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | arvut: Unicode characters in the ranges U+0000...U+009F, U+D800...U+DFFF cannot be specified by this syntax, except for U+0024 ($), U+0040 (@), and U+0060 ()`. | 20:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | >> The processing of `\u' and `\U' requires a full-featured `iconv' facility. It is activated on systems with glibc 2.2 (or newer), or when `libiconv' is installed prior to this package.<< | 20:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | err, actually the syntax I used above also doesn't work | 21:01 |
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| arvut | hmm | 21:03 |
| arvut | the manual mentions that U and u too but u is a 4digit hex while U is a 8 digit. I do not fully understand the syntax tho | 21:04 |
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| arvut | where does the [-v var] come in? | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | arvut: env printf '\u20AC 14.95\n' | 21:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | without env, bash craps out | 21:07 |
| arvut | what is 14.95\? | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | -> € 14.95€ | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | -> € 14.95 | 21:08 |
| arvut | ah | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | vs " \u20AC 14.95 " in bash, w/o env | 21:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | still 009E is in invalid range, so prints "as is" | 21:10 |
| arvut | how come? | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ask unicode | 21:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ask info coreutils 'printf invocation' | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>Unicode characters in the ranges U+0000...U+009F, U+D800...U+DFFF cannot be specified by this syntax, except for U+0024 ($), U+0040 (@), and U+0060 ()`.<< | 21:11 |
| arvut | these 8bit chars must be printable somehow | 21:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, printf '\x9e' | 21:12 |
| arvut | I know that U+0022 and below are forbidden normally as they have some kind of function | 21:12 |
| arvut | aha | 21:12 |
| arvut | gives a blank char :/ | 21:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (kind of function) that's what your xterm/whatever does on "rendering" the byte, printf anyway prints them as is, no matter what | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | 9E? | 21:14 |
| arvut | yea | 21:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | gives me >>�<< | 21:15 |
| arvut | thats a x slightly higher up in the air | 21:15 |
| arvut | the center of X but the size of $ | 21:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's a rectangle on corner, with a ? inside, here | 21:15 |
| arvut | s/$/x/g | 21:15 |
| arvut | 158 == 9E right? | 21:16 |
| arvut | unless my math is bad right now | 21:16 |
| mgedmin | yes | 21:18 |
| arvut | k, should be the character im after then | 21:18 |
| mgedmin | Unicode character U+009E is a control character named PRIVACY MESSAGE (PM) | 21:18 |
| mgedmin | here's how it renders: | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | halley:~ # echo $(( 0x9e )) | 21:18 |
| arvut | oh | 21:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | 158 | 21:18 |
| mgedmin | on my machine that's a quare box with four hex digits | 21:18 |
| mgedmin | *squar | 21:18 |
| mgedmin | *square | 21:18 |
| arvut | interesting | 21:19 |
| mgedmin | so I doubt you want to enter it | 21:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | time for 12648430 ☕ | 21:19 |
| arvut | In windows you get a strange x, much like the multiplicationsign ppl use | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 21:20 |
| arvut | (i have it in a password) :P | 21:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | more like the XXX in "triple X rated" | 21:20 |
| arvut | might be | 21:20 |
| arvut | you've seen it? | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | seen what? | 21:21 |
| arvut | the symbo im after | 21:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer | no, I only got a square | 21:21 |
| arvut | s/symbo/symbol/ | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | empty sqaure | 21:21 |
| arvut | hmm ok | 21:21 |
| fizzie | arvut: That would be Unicode character U+00D7. | 21:21 |
| fizzie | Also called "multiplication sign". | 21:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | I pasted the 0x9E symbol above | 21:22 |
| fizzie | (Though using that in a password sounds like a recipe for disasters and incompatibilities.) | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | 0x)E for "PRIVATE MESSAGE" makes some sense with passwords | 21:22 |
| arvut | fizzie: i like using unicode whenever I can in pws | 21:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | 0x9E | 21:23 |
| mgedmin | ×? | 21:23 |
| arvut | yeah!! | 21:23 |
| arvut | thats it | 21:23 |
| fizzie | The multiplication sign is character 158 in the CP850 "western-europe" DOS codepage; or character 215 (0xd7) in Unicode, ISO-8859-1 or Windows-1252. | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's NOT 0x9e | 21:23 |
| arvut | how did you print that? | 21:23 |
| mgedmin | that's U+00D7, like fizzie said | 21:23 |
| arvut | aha | 21:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | printf \x7d | 21:23 |
| arvut | that explains it, damn windows :P | 21:24 |
| mgedmin | I'm on a linux laptop so in any GNOME app I can type ctrl+shift+u00D7, then release ctrl+shift and that character gets entered | 21:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | umm, actually not printf \x7d | 21:24 |
| arvut | ah yes, now how to get it in maemo5 :P | 21:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | d7 dang | 21:24 |
| arvut | DocScrutinizer: noticed that, prints blank space | 21:24 |
| arvut | u00D7? | 21:25 |
| Pali | Hi, I want to promote package slovak-l10n to Extras but I got: Can not continue promotion, because dependency package mp-fremantle-generic-pr is a user section package and needs to be promoted first! | 21:26 |
| mgedmin | on a n900... I'd open vim and type ctrl-v u 00d7 | 21:26 |
| fizzie | It's also altgr-x in the new Finnish standard multilingual keymap, so I can ××× around with impunity with just a two-finger salute. (And I think in some earlier Finnish X.org keymaps too.) | 21:26 |
| mgedmin | nice | 21:26 |
| Pali | any idea, where is problem with maemo package interface? | 21:26 |
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| arvut | fizzie: neat | 21:27 |
| Pali | mp-fremantle-generic-pr is un Nokia SSU repository | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | »»»»»»» here | 21:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | (altgr-x) | 21:27 |
| fizzie | It'd be neat if that weren't probably the first time I actually had to type it. | 21:27 |
| arvut | DocScrutinizer: same on my ubuntu laptop iirc | 21:27 |
| fizzie | I'm guessing your altgr-z does the « then. | 21:28 |
| fizzie | That seems a popular arrangement. | 21:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ←←←←←← | 21:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | «««««« == altgr-y | 21:28 |
| fizzie | How... logical. | 21:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sure, wertzu kbd here | 21:29 |
| fizzie | Ahhh. | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | my y is where's your z | 21:29 |
| fizzie | Yes, should've said "the key to the left". | 21:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway, folks. boozetime | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | or | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | time for 12648430 ☕ | 21:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | or ☕ with some booze in it | 21:30 |
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| DocScrutinizer | o/ | 21:30 |
| arvut | no, its time for 2.718281828459045235360747135266249... | 21:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ugh | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2615/index.htm | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | aka 0xC0FFEE | 21:36 |
| arvut | printf '\u00D7' doesnt give me anything useful :( | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's in forbidden range as well | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | see ovedouble post ab | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | errg | 21:37 |
| arvut | meh | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | see double post above | 21:37 |
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| fizzie | WFM, even with bash's builtin "printf" (for bash 4.1, but not 4.2): $ printf '\u00D7\n' # => × | 21:48 |
| fizzie | (And with /usr/bin/printf for both.) | 21:48 |
| fizzie | Er, I mean, for 4.2, not 4.1. | 21:49 |
| fizzie | I see that 4.2 has also added \uHHHH and \UHHHHHHHH in the man page's list of escapades. | 21:49 |
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| arvut | how do I copy something from vim? ctrl+c doesnt seem to work | 22:01 |
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| jacekowski | arvut: same way you do it in any other terminal app | 22:27 |
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