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| bindi | 23:32 < bindi> what's the tweak for enabling hardware accelerated menus? | 00:12 |
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| bindi | i remember seeing it in the wiki | 00:12 |
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| badcloud_ | Sicelo: unfortunately, same result with nice -n 19 | 01:42 |
| badcloud_ | I get a forced reboot | 01:42 |
| badcloud_ | and fsck has a buttload of errors for easy debian image | 01:43 |
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| whatever4ever | What's the best hardware keyboard phone? I think my n900 is done with. | 02:32 |
| r00t|home | get another | 02:34 |
| whatever4ever | Is there a list of things that only the n900 can do that no android can? | 02:35 |
| whatever4ever | It would be fun to make a comprehensive list . . . | 02:35 |
| LaoLang_cool | palm treo 650 is the best | 02:35 |
| LaoLang_cool | for its keyboard... | 02:35 |
| whatever4ever | That's barely a smartphone | 02:35 |
| LaoLang_cool | whatever4ever: it's the best smartphone on pim.. | 02:36 |
| r00t|home | you didn't ask for a smartphone | 02:36 |
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| whatever4ever | r00t|home: not as if that would change your answer | 02:54 |
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| jpinx | whatever4ever: I think you can not run a chroot on android phones with all the apps - as I do with debian ;) | 03:00 |
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| barrio | i found a 53 page thread on xda-dev just getting libc going right on android | 05:08 |
| barrio | that wasnt too promising | 05:08 |
| barrio | google significantly forked vanila kernel, way more than throwing a few proprietary drivers in. then they ditched libc, and every bit of linux's userspace ever | 05:08 |
| barrio | replaced it with some quasi-java VM | 05:08 |
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| barrio | its very mucht he mindset of late 90s early 00s JavaME phones, imo | 05:09 |
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| barrio | maybe if you can chroot and debootstrap you can just use a normal libc on their kernel, no idea | 05:11 |
| barrio | id never buy something so blatantly fubared in a NIMBY way like that | 05:11 |
| barrio | even iOS you can jailbreak and compile stuff no more difficult than you could on OSX, with saurik's apt/dpkg/repos | 05:11 |
| barrio | since it is just OSX with some newer UI libs for touch | 05:12 |
| ds3 | it is all userland | 05:12 |
| barrio | theres no X server, or GTK/QT libs, and compiline on OSX is harder than linux/freebsd, but if you are mainly doing daemons/screen/mutt/irssi and HTML5 or terminal UIs | 05:12 |
| ds3 | and iOS is irrelevant | 05:13 |
| barrio | irrelevant to what? | 05:14 |
| barrio | once i jb'd, and installed cydia, most the utils i wanted were as simple to install as N900 | 05:15 |
| barrio | and the hardware is available in the form of ipod touch for 1/4th the price of a N9 | 05:15 |
| barrio | its not how i'd spend my money, i'd go out of my way to get someting Mer-compatible | 05:15 |
| barrio | but it is not that bad | 05:15 |
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| * retro|cz is away: Byl jsem tady. Příjdu zas. Polib mi prdel, Fantomas! | 05:25 | |
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| jase21 | Hi guys!! | 06:36 |
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| jase21 | Could you please point me to some docs on using c++ to program for Maemo (n900)? Can Qt get access to phone specific functions? Or should I download the maemo SDK? | 06:37 |
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| jase21 | But maemo sdk uses GTK and C. Can I use C++ on top of it? But it doesn't seem to be the right approach. What is the preferred way? | 06:41 |
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| internetishard | one of my conversations became titled "<SelfHandle>" randomly - any ideas? | 06:59 |
| internetishard | looks like a bug | 06:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yoh | 07:06 |
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| dangergrrl | heya dockane | 08:40 |
| dangergrrl | er DocScrutinizer :) | 08:40 |
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| RST38x | *yawn* | 09:39 |
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| RST38x | .црщшы КЫЕ38ч | 09:44 |
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| merlin1991 | wut? | 09:58 |
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| mihu | Hi. I have successfully compiled and flashed a new kernel into my N900. Now I have done some experimental changes and want to just boot the device with the new kernel, but without flashing it. How do I do that with the flasher? I cannot find it out. I tried "flasher-3.5 -k zImage -b" but this does not do the trick. I does not seem to upload the kernel or boot it. Any ideas? | 10:31 |
| mihu | I must be missing something really obvious... | 10:32 |
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| merlin1991 | mihu: yes | 10:32 |
| merlin1991 | you miss the -l flash | 10:32 |
| merlin1991 | *flag* | 10:32 |
| merlin1991 | so it's flasher-3.5 -k zImage -l -b | 10:33 |
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| mihu | merlin1991: Ah, ok. So it was merely booting the existing kernel before, without loading the new one actually. Got it. Yes, now it works. Thanks! | 10:35 |
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| yolin | how can I check bluetooth signal strength of a device with known mac address? | 12:13 |
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| edheldil | yolin: hcitool rssi, possibly | 12:21 |
| yolin | edheldil, I tried that, but it says "Not connected" | 12:21 |
| edheldil | you have to connect first | 12:21 |
| yolin | can you please tell me the option for that? | 12:22 |
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| yolin | edheldil, I just want to determine proximity | 12:23 |
| edheldil | hcitool cc? But consult your system's doc | 12:23 |
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| yolin | edheldil, thanks | 12:24 |
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| ruskie | http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-mostly-wrong.html | 12:49 |
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| RST38x | Australians deal with MyNokia Cherry in their own way: http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/24/nokia-penalised-for-texting-tips-to-aussie-users-regrets-not-ad/ | 14:52 |
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| ruskie | http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/24/watchdog_ofcom_says_nokia_and_channel_5_breached_sponsorship_rules/ | 15:16 |
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| RST38x | OMG, Ubuntu continues destroying its own product | 16:59 |
| RST38x | http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/372385/ubuntu-rips-up-drop-down-menus | 16:59 |
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| bindi | what is the tweak to enable hardware accelerated menus etc? | 17:28 |
| bindi | i remember seeing it in the maemo wiki, can't find it anymore.. | 17:28 |
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| ruskie | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2012/01/24/apple_dutch_court_case/ | 18:39 |
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| plate | transitions.ini ? | 19:29 |
| plate | theres a GUI to config that | 19:29 |
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| bindi | I found it | 19:30 |
| bindi | /etc/powervr.d/hildon-desktop.ini -> WSEGL_UseHWSync=1 | 19:30 |
| bindi | apparently very unstable, works fine for me | 19:30 |
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| ShadowJK | That's not acceleration | 19:44 |
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| ShadowJK | ACtually it decelerates somewhat :) | 19:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | "UseHWSync... DUH, this *gotta* be faaaast!" | 19:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | "man, it HAAADWARE | 19:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ShadowJK: :-D | 20:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: I think they should pay another $58,000 to community and especially speedevil, for warning them about it and they ignoring us completely | 20:28 |
| SpeedEvil | heh | 20:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and I still might consider suing them for refund plus compensation for my discomfort and expense in the effort to rectify the issue | 20:30 |
| ShadowJK | what's this about? | 20:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | cherry | 20:32 |
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| DocScrutinizer | see ~jrtools | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~jrtools | 20:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | err bot died again? | 20:32 |
| Raimu | :D | 20:35 |
| ShadowJK | hm | 20:37 |
| ShadowJK | iy has/had unsubscribe on n900, right? | 20:37 |
| ShadowJK | and it's kinda funny/sad it had to go all the way through court | 20:37 |
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| ShadowJK | Vista/w7 backup utility is kinda funny. Apparently if your backup location is not the root directory of a device, and you reinstall windows or suffer hd failure, restoring backup fails | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | it had unsubscribe, but still inevitable subscribe on update/reflash, which been causing expenses for the possibly premium service SMS that got sent hidden | 20:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so possibly even worse than inbound SMS spamming | 20:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ooomphh | 20:42 |
| ShadowJK | The thing about acting like a Big Evil Corporation is that it only makes sense if you're all of: a) corporation, b) evil, c) big. | 20:44 |
| * RST38h moos | 20:47 | |
| rm_work | ~jrtools | 20:48 |
| rm_work | ? | 20:48 |
| rm_work | no bot, so | 20:48 |
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| RST38h | "On the Net, there is no way to tell a difference between a really good bot and a moron." -- RST38h's 3rd rule of Internet | 20:50 |
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| MohammadAG | <ShadowJK> That's not acceleration | 21:03 |
| MohammadAG | It makes frames use the same time | 21:03 |
| MohammadAG | so it's actually slower if the frame takes time | 21:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | well, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools. And for your convenience here's the link to be found there: http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription | 21:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | and infobot never been a really good bot, though she'll bitch on me for saying that | 21:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | andre__: you want to block an IP on wiki | 22:52 |
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| andre__ | DocScrutinizer, done. thanks for pinging. | 22:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | yw | 22:54 |
| andre__ | DocScrutinizer, I think you should also have admin rights. Just no idea who to ping for that. | 22:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the maemo syndrome: who's the man with the hat on | 22:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's why they called it harmattan, not manhattan | 22:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | ;-) | 22:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | what annoys me so no words can tell, is that fact that all that spam still stays in wiki, in the history. As there's no true rollback | 23:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | I already would be interested in "what links here" of old wiki pages with spam. I suspect those get abused to push up hits in search engines with link farms linking to history pages | 23:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | actually the double edits some of the spammers do strongly indicates they do exactly that | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | so no matter how fast you are to "undo" - they achieved full "mission accomplished" | 23:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | not even clever enough to be anything but extremely annoying | 23:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | andre__: why don't we get captchas on anonymous edits, or forbid them completely? and get captchas etc on registering to avoid registered spam bots | 23:08 |
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| andre__ | I do see a "rollback" button. might be only for admins. never really thought about the difference to "undo" but realizing now | 23:09 |
| andre__ | DocScrutinizer, I asked on maemo-community@ ml two weeks ago, but not much answers except for "me too" | 23:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | asked about what? | 23:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | captchas? | 23:10 |
| andre__ | Captchas | 23:10 |
| andre__ | http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-January/004998.html | 23:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | andre__: thanks | 23:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | andre__: well, gimme admin and rollback, and I'm fine with cleaning up every other day | 23:16 |
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| * DocScrutinizer wishes he could say same about his own rocks | 23:17 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | I just hope rollback also counts for my karma ;-P | 23:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I could bear with rollback ignored by karma algo, if we'd finally get that irc analyzer plugin XD | 23:21 |
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| merlin1991 | karma whore ;) | 23:24 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 23:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 23:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 23:28 |
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