IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2012-01-15

DocScrutinizernow THAT is a top of the pile POS of sw00:00
ShadowJKit's quite the masterpiece :)00:00
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NIN101lol... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqEfiy_nguY a video from nokia from october 2011 showing the N900 brainscanner.00:25
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DocScrutinizerumm, with H-E-N I guess00:50
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GregoryRasputinlol why am i even on this channel01:06
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merlin1991hm02:30
merlin1991wtf why can't my server find this properly02:30
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AndrewX192What's the best way to access rootfs before the device boots (eg: backupmenu)?02:58
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AndrewX192Ended up just using sed to make the replacements I needed03:08
AndrewX192And got /home as ext403:08
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ShadowJKYour question was wrong03:27
ShadowJKif you could execute sed the device had booted03:27
ShadowJK:P03:27
AndrewX192I did it from a terminal within BackupMenu :)03:27
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AndrewX192I would have used vi, but the annoying battery spam caused issues03:27
ShadowJKbattery spam?03:28
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AndrewX192Yeah, when you enter terminal in backupmenu it prints the state of the battery every 30 seconds03:29
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DocScrutinizer*sigh*03:31
AndrewX192Hm?03:31
DocScrutinizerjust sigh03:31
AndrewX192Just installing CSSU again :|'03:31
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Estel_AndrewX192,  it's easily achievable to disable charging status messages03:32
Estel_vi_ posted one linet edit in backupmenu thread03:32
AndrewX192Yeah, that thread is 100 pages strong03:32
DocScrutinizersigh for charge.sh printing diagnostics to stdout, sigh for backupmenu using it without taking care about that, and sigh about calling it spam instead of thinking to simply kill the background process and restart it >/dev/null03:32
Estel_vi (editor, not user - this time) saved my ass few times while experimenting with truecrypt preboot authentication and home encryption03:32
Estel_one of last few pages03:33
Estel_if not last at all03:33
Estel_DocScrutinizer,  its one liner fix to redirect output to null03:33
AndrewX192Yeah, I guess I could do that03:33
DocScrutinizerEstel_:  orly?!03:33
AndrewX192I wasn't sure what was causing the output03:33
Estel_don't be sighing or RST38h will ask You "what have You contributed to backupmenu" :P03:33
AndrewX192Estel_: How well has truecrypt been working for you?03:34
Estel_perfectly well03:34
AndrewX192Estel_: performance wise?03:34
Estel_well, I uploaded it to devel :P03:34
Estel_tested it just yesterday03:34
Estel_performance03:34
Estel_not devel03:34
AndrewX192I'm moved optfs to ext4 in hopes of better performance03:34
AndrewX192I*03:35
Estel_well, as encryption is done in memory, and even using 200mhz CPU it got more 'bandwidth" that our flash can handle03:35
Estel_at least for write03:35
Estel_it's no performance loss at all, unless You're on 100% cpu usage03:35
Estel_AndrewX192,  ext4 gives performance gain, but You need to set some thing03:35
Estel_wait, how was it called...03:36
Estel_wide strip or something (grill me for this something) :P03:36
Estel_either creating ext4 or via tunefs03:36
AndrewX192 /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /home type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=continue,commit=1,data=writeback)03:36
Estel_I'm talking about special support that was added for things with huge erase block size03:36
Estel_it was added in ext403:36
AndrewX192Is it supported in the power49 kernel?03:36
Estel_as we got 256k block that need to be erased before rewrite, this options gain a lotta hell performance03:37
AndrewX192I'm not sure how mature ext4 is in kernel-power03:37
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Estel_mature enough as I'm using it03:37
AndrewX192For what partitions?03:37
Estel_You just need to google it's real name cant recall now03:37
Estel_/dev/mmcblk0p2, easy debian, and one truecrypted03:37
Estel_basically everything excepts vfats and rootfs03:38
AndrewX192I'd like to convert the fat32 MyDocs too03:38
Estel_hm03:38
AndrewX192Because svn checkouts on it fail03:38
Estel_If You won't miss mass storage under w$ndoze, it's a way to go03:38
AndrewX192I won't at all03:38
AndrewX192I never use that feature anyway03:38
AndrewX192I just scp to my device03:38
Estel_so I recommend also encrypting it via truecrypt + script to mount it on reboot03:38
Estel_this way Your photos etc will be encrypted in case of thievery03:39
Estel_other way is to leave in unencrypted03:39
AndrewX192I woulden't mind encrypting /home/user03:39
Estel_but moving DCIM and other folders of interest to encrypted part and symlinking from non-vfat MyDocs03:39
AndrewX192But not /opt, and not some of the folders in /home/user/MyDocs03:39
AndrewX192Encrypting my conversations and such would be nice03:40
Estel_well, considering that sometimes You probably use Your N900 at close-to 100% usage, I would recommend symlinking phonebook, contacts etc03:40
Estel_instead of encrypting whole user03:40
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AndrewX192I suppose03:40
AndrewX192But I'd have to symlink a lot of files03:40
Estel_check TrueCrypt thread(s), what is needed for symlinking is listed there03:41
AndrewX192or folders, for that matter03:41
Estel_not so much03:41
Estel_4 or 5 folders03:41
AndrewX192Hm, what about gconf?03:41
Estel_hm?03:41
AndrewX192It's on rootfs03:41
Estel_do You store photos of girlfriend in bikini under gonf? ;)03:42
AndrewX192No, but where would my IM/email passwords be stored?03:42
AndrewX192I would hope in /home/user/*03:42
Estel_good question. I hope not in gconf, anyway, I'm not using modest03:42
Estel_so can't tell03:43
AndrewX192Also, my VPN certs are in /etc/openvpn, but I can easily symlink that03:43
Estel_i suppose somewhere under user, maybe /home/user/.config?03:43
Estel_yea03:43
Estel_well, beside standard ones, You should make list of places03:43
AndrewX192I suppose I can just create another partition and start throwing this stuff in there03:43
Estel_to not forget anything03:43
AndrewX192I should encrypt my svn checkouts and what not though03:44
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Estel_yea, partition, and truecrypt it. Yet, be sure to do it properly at first try, i.e. do not change password or keyfiles later03:44
Estel_due to wear-leveling You would end up with few instances of same header with different masterpassword = aiding cryptoanalysis03:45
Estel_not that anyone would be able to crack encryption in03:45
Estel_bbillion years using that, but...03:45
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Estel_it's recommended to not do so on hardware wear-leveled devices ;)03:45
SpeedEvilWell - assuming you dissasemble the flash - whivh is very tricky03:47
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Estel_exactly. And, two instances aren't still enough even for nsa ;)03:50
Estel_well, I suppose that if AndrewX192 got contact with UFO, And NSA is interested, it's still unable to crack AES-TWOFISH cascade, even give 10 instances...03:50
Estel_AndrewX192,  btw, don't use serpent, KP lack modules for it03:51
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Estel_for unknown reasons, as NIM101 prepared them for kp47. I must ask Pali, maybe they vanished like cdrom ones again03:51
Estel_SpeedEvil,  but, why would it require to dissasemble flash?03:53
Estel_just dd'ing whole surface _ empty also - should be enough to analyze it via some software03:54
Estel_if we dump whole flash surface, we also get old fragments (waiting to be written @)03:54
SpeedEvilEstel_: umm - no03:56
SpeedEvilyou can't _get_ to the empty blocks.03:56
SpeedEvilthey are not mapped into the block interface.03:56
SpeedEvilSo you either need to find the per-vendor dump commands, or you etch the package away - which will be _real_ fun with back-thinned chips, and probe them03:57
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Hurriananybody else tried running gnome 3 with clutter-egl on n900?04:34
Hurriannot enough ram to work well04:35
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AndrewX192Estel_: How did you repartition?05:18
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Estel_SpeedEvil,  thanks for clarification05:43
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Estel_AndrewX192,  Preferrably, I just connect device in backupmenu's read&write mass storage mode to linuxbox (may be even liveCD/LiveUSB/livewhatever) and repartition from GUI tool05:44
Estel_hate to do repartition therough terminal, too much error prone05:45
Estel_especially, that we're working on ones containing data that we like to preserve05:45
Estel_kde partition manager was working well for me05:46
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AndrewX192Estel_: Okay, I was going to do the same, but what layout did you do?05:48
AndrewX192Is a fat32 MyDocs still a requirement?05:49
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Estel_no, MyDocs, as we talked before, is purely Your choice06:02
Estel_as for layout I use strange but effective one ;)06:03
Estel_I use mass storage sometimes, so06:03
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Estel_mmcblk0p1 vfat, p2 ext4(home), p4 is 3GB EasyDebian...06:03
Estel_p3 is extended partition containing p5 and p6 (truecrypt)06:04
Estel_and p7 is 200 mb fallback swap06:04
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Estel_normally I use swap on microSD06:04
Estel_p5 truecrypt is general purpose one, that is mounted all the time - for photos, contacts, and whatever non life-saving thing, that yet I would not like to see in hands of any thief06:05
Estel_I use it normally, with regular unencrypted swap on microSD enabled06:05
Estel_p6 is supercool top-secret etc ;) partiton for things like are-51 livestock content06:06
Estel_seriously though, for really important things06:06
Estel_I always mount it manually and unmount just after using (no sitting in pocket mounted)06:06
AndrewX192hm06:07
Estel_also, before mounting it I enable *encrypted* emmc swap (this 200mb falback one)06:07
Estel_disable regular one06:07
Estel_and, after unmounting, I enable regular and disable encrypted06:07
Estel_of course all done via script06:07
AndrewX192I keep easydebian on my MicroSD card06:08
AndrewX192(32GB)06:08
Estel_so one script encrypting 200mb swap, enabling it, disabling regular one, and mounting p6 (prompting me for password and keyfiles)06:08
Estel_and another one doing reverse06:08
Estel_hm, for EasyDebian You use dedicated partition, *not* image file I hope?06:09
AndrewX192Yeah06:09
AndrewX192a ext2 one06:09
AndrewX192It corrupts on a regular basis though06:09
Estel_well, IMO it's better to have ED on eMMC and swap on microSD to avod I/O conflicts06:09
Estel_as we dont have wnd uSD06:09
AndrewX192I have two swap files with both set at -p006:09
Estel_well, mine *never* corrupts, and I mount ED upon boot via etc/event.d script, so it's enabled all the time from boot to shutdown06:10
AndrewX192My N900 deadlocks06:10
Estel_two swap files is as useless as flash based RAID 0 :P06:10
AndrewX192So I have to pull the battery and then it corrupts06:10
Estel_trust me, I/O conflicts on eMMC is major cause of performance decrease when swapping06:11
Estel_I use swap on microSD for a long time...06:11
Estel_one day, after repartition for truecrypt, my internal swap was no longer pblk0pe but now blk0p7, so my script to unmount it wasn't working06:11
Estel_I started my usual combo of applications - Chromium via ED, terminal to continue tinkering with truecrypt, + something else06:12
Estel_and 4th program06:12
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Estel_then, device almost stopped responding, returning back to input once every 15 or 30seconds06:13
AndrewX192My N900 lags when I play audio :|06:13
Estel_after first WTF I realized that eMMC swap is enabled together with microSD swap :P06:13
AndrewX192PA fail06:13
Estel_disabling eMMC swap fixed it instantly06:13
AndrewX192So what do you keep on microsd?06:13
Estel_well, now I use modified rcS-late instead of custom script, so my swap is set to microSD initially, instead of being set on eMMC, + enabled on microSD + disabled on eMMC06:14
Estel_as it was with custom script as proposed in wiki06:14
Estel_I just replaced swapon -a in rcS-late with swapon /dev/mmcblk1p206:15
Estel_microSD, I got class 2 8GB06:15
Estel_768 MB swap and wnd partition vfat for backupmenu backups06:15
Estel_man, even with class 2 device fly with swap set there06:15
Estel_+ some custom seting re swap (*not* recommended swapollube values, they're outdated)06:16
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Estel_class 4 sandisk or another good company is best re swap on uSD (class 6 and 10 got higher bulk speed, but worse random)06:17
AndrewX192Yeah, I have a class 1006:17
AndrewX192http://grabup.andrewx192.com/132660105806:17
Estel_well, whatever You have device will feel better with swqp on it06:17
AndrewX192Proposed new layout06:17
AndrewX192Reformat the fat32 with truecrypt though06:18
Estel_I see. Well, allocate those 64 MB, why to waste it06:18
AndrewX192That was the default06:18
Estel_I know06:19
Estel_whp said default is best ;)06:19
Estel_where is Your home? at extended partition?06:20
AndrewX192If it isn't broken don't fix it06:20
Estel_while it should work without problem and *should* not decrease performance06:20
AndrewX192esdf206:20
Estel_just to be on safe side, I would...06:20
Estel_ah yes06:20
Estel_only 2GB? 0_006:20
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AndrewX192MyDocs on the 20GB06:21
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Estel_Normally, people tend to increase optfs to have more room for installed things06:21
Estel_hm06:21
AndrewX192They share /home/ and /opt though06:21
AndrewX192I can symlink stuff06:22
Estel_if You don't want to rewrite every refference to /dev/mmcblk0p1 as MyDocs06:22
Estel_true06:22
Estel_I thyink You could resize MyDocs to 20GB and ext4 it, while putting this 2GB to extended06:22
Estel_otherwise, You will always find something that need changing mmcblk0p1 :P06:23
Estel_so if You're planning to use MyDocs as drop-in ext4 MyDocs replacement, leave it as partition 1, just resize and change filesystem (backup data first, no change from vfat to ext4 without scratch on content)06:24
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yolinhi guys08:07
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yolinanyone can help me on web runtime on N900?08:08
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yolinis the maemo web runtime being updated?08:11
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yolinanyone knows how to do reverse IP lookup in linux08:22
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AndrewX192yolin: host(1)08:55
yolinthanks08:55
yolinAndrewX192, am trying to find html and js files using 'find', am using this -> find . -regex '.*(js|html)' -type f, but its not working, do you know why?08:59
AndrewX192yolin: use find . -regex '.*[js|html]' -type f instead?09:07
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yolinAndrewX192, great it worked, thanks12:24
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FIQhm, my N900 really has begun to fail15:38
FIQin terms hardware15:38
FIQsometimes it thinks the keyboard isn't out while it is, and now it thimks it is USB connected15:39
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ShadowJK:-(15:44
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Macerheh16:03
Macerthat is odd16:03
Macerthe usb port is probably hanging on edge16:04
Macerand swinging all over the place scraping across electronic components :)16:04
MacerFIQ: don't feel too bad i am on n900 #216:05
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Macernow with a battery charger and 3 batteries so i never have to unnecessarily touch the usb port after my last trauma16:05
DocScrutinizerFIQ: first of all check if slider magnet came loose. It will cause erratic slider states and may cause shorts on other random places it falls to16:09
DocScrutinizerhitting device "hard" while holding it so magnet would fall out might help - I.E slide open, hold upright possibly top-down16:10
DocScrutinizerthen shake16:10
DocScrutinizersee if loose "debris" causes sound or falls out16:10
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jpinxFIQ: taking it apat is no big deal if you are ompetent with small screwdrivers17:18
jpinxI bough a couple of "broken" N900's for spares, but ended up being able to get them all working again17:18
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jpinxFIQ: and don't underestimate the power of re-flashing -- some apparent hardware hiccups ahve been fixed by this -- like the virtual kbd not appearing17:20
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FIQ<Macer> FIQ: don't feel too bad i am on n900 #217:37
FIQi am too :D17:37
FIQMy first one got rid of its' microUSB port17:38
FIQI got a new one on warranty, but I think the warranty is gone now17:38
FIQas it was almost 2 years ago i got it17:38
FIQ<Macer> now with a battery charger and 3 batteries so i never have to unnecessarily touch the usb port after my last trauma17:39
FIQHm, I guess that's a decent idea (getting a battery charger)17:39
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SpeedEvilhttp://www.roscosmos.ru/main.php?id=2&nid=18564 - latest prediction of reeentry for phobos-grunt spacecraft. Along the southeast coast of south-america all the way up, grazing africa, over the Med, crossing into russia, over china, and then touching the northeast coast of australia. - for anyone in those parts of the world.18:12
SpeedEvil(in an hour or sos time)18:13
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RST38hSpeedEvil: In other words, it is not a prediciton, as it predicts this thing falling anywhere?18:15
ShadowJKwasn't it spotted on fire two days ago?18:16
SpeedEvilRST38h: Along that line.18:16
SpeedEvilRST38h: So ~99% of the earth is not at risk18:16
RST38hah18:17
ShadowJKlooks like it's narrowed down to an orbit and a half?18:17
SpeedEvilpretty much18:17
SpeedEvilThere is almost no orbit you can imagine that is over land more.18:17
ShadowJKso if yesterday (or friday?) someone snapped a picture of it burning, it must be shedding mass, and this would reduce the drag, but on the other hand slow it down before mass is lost...18:19
ShadowJKit's amazing these things can be predicted at all18:19
SpeedEvilI think the 'burning' photo was radar18:19
SpeedEvilSo it's false colour, and not flames18:19
ShadowJKoh :/18:19
SpeedEvilyou don't get flames or significant heating till about the orbit before it goes in.18:20
SpeedEvil(as in stuff may get hot, but not red hot)18:20
RST38hShadowJK: So, do you want it to burn in the atmosphere and save the earthlings, or fall to the ground with lulz and kill some earthlings?18:20
ShadowJKRST38h; the thing that pisses me off, is that if they'd crash it in my backyard I wouldn't be allowed to keep the pieces18:21
ShadowJKi think it'd be a fair trade18:21
RST38hwon't be much left, although you may be able to find a propellant tank or two18:22
DocScrutinizerBURNING? WTF?18:22
RST38hThe funniest part is, this thing has been in development for 10+ years and malfunctioned because they saved on some components and QA18:22
DocScrutinizeraah18:22
ShadowJKRST38h; also it was fixed-price contract and unmovable deadline18:23
RST38hShadowJK: That I do not know about18:23
RST38hShadowJK: Given 10+ years development cycle, I would say there were many contracts and no strict deadlines to speak about18:23
ShadowJKand financial penalties for missing deadline18:23
RST38hShadowJK: Probably some Soviet era retirees working on it to go off with a bang18:24
RST38hShadowJK: + whatever bottom percentile of college graduates they could hire for $500/mo18:24
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ShadowJKAreva is building a nuclear reactor in finand at fixed-price contract too. Unfortunately for them (and fortunately for the world), there's a competent watchdog monitoring their work.18:26
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RST38hprobably depends more on the chosen technology than who is building it18:28
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ShadowJKThey were caught using a polish contractor for welding. The welders had no training for the work they were doing.18:29
RST38hthink of how many they have not been caught for... ;)18:30
ShadowJK:)18:31
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* MohammadAG moos19:10
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DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: you shocked everybody :-D20:15
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DocScrutinizerWB!20:15
DocScrutinizerlong time no see :-)20:16
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, thanks :)20:16
MohammadAGI had an exam on Thursday20:16
MohammadAGand I lost my license today20:16
DocScrutinizerhope it worked well for you20:16
DocScrutinizerlost your licence? :-o20:16
MohammadAGdriver's license20:16
DocScrutinizerwhat F*ing licence? and what means "lost"?20:17
DocScrutinizerlike they caught you speeding?20:17
DocScrutinizerdrinking?20:17
MohammadAGspeeding20:17
DocScrutinizeror just 'lost it somewhere'?20:17
DocScrutinizerouch20:17
MohammadAGthere was a highway where you can drive 200kmph20:17
MohammadAGso I was doing 16020:17
MohammadAGthere was a speed trap at the end of it20:17
DocScrutinizeroh well, that's life, when shit hits the fan20:18
MohammadAGwhere the speed limit gets to 9020:18
MohammadAGactually I was doing 142 when he caught me20:18
DocScrutinizeryou will get it back eventually?20:18
MohammadAGa month after tuesday, then I go to court in May and probably have it revoked for a year20:18
DocScrutinizerouch!!!20:19
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dafoxhi all :) Quick question (with hopefully quick answer): can anyone please tell me the rgb-subpixel order for the N900 display? I'd like to enable subpixel rendering in freetype, but I'm seeing a lot of color fringing which leads me to believe I may be using the wrong subpixel order20:37
ShadowJKtry magnifying glass?20:37
dafoxI have none at hand :/20:38
dafoxalso, would I be able to tell?20:38
dafoxthey're really tiny pixels20:38
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ShadowJKlooks more like bgr to me20:41
ShadowJK||| shaped20:41
ShadowJK(when in landscape)20:42
ShadowJKoh wait, everything is mirrored in this thing, so rgb?20:43
dafoxthanks, I found a site with a test image (png), but I'm not sure how to get it to display at 100%20:43
ShadowJKlink?20:45
dafoxhttp://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/subpixel.php or http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/img/subpixel.png20:45
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dafoxI think rgb, too20:48
* SpeedEvil ponders getting out of bed.20:48
dafoxit's so hard to tell20:48
* SpeedEvil gets out of bed and gets his microscope.20:48
ShadowJKWell, the top v-rgb lines has a miscolouration of the horizontal line, the right hand bgr pattern has miscolouration on vertical line, the bottom v-bgr has micolouration on horizontal line20:49
dafox"so by process of elimination" :p20:49
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SpeedEvilred green blue20:50
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SpeedEvilred-left20:50
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dafoxthanks everyone :) but in that case I'm not sure where the discolorations are coming from. Maybe fontconfig is not compiled with BCI or something?20:51
SpeedEvilThe pixels look wierd20:51
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dafoxweird in what sense?20:52
SpeedEvilthey have o|o in black in the middle20:52
SpeedEvil(at right angles)20:52
SpeedEvil020:52
SpeedEvil_20:52
SpeedEvilO20:52
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SpeedEvilwhere the O's are solid black20:52
SpeedEvilInside a coloured rectangle20:52
Estel_DocScrutinizer,  ping?20:52
Estel_hi there Maemo20:52
dafoxblack dots?20:53
DocScrutinizerEstel_: wazzup?20:53
ShadowJKI was seeing the dots and lines in the pixels looking at them under magnification now, and also wondering how dim the blue looks20:53
Estel_hey Doc. I just realized, that for 4 days I wask asking You small question, - even via the infamous /onjoin - without getting answer ;)20:54
Estel_so, considering current situation, if, for some reason, mirroring our infrastructure @ Debian fails, is Your proposition of 'sponsoring' server for few months actual?20:55
ShadowJKhuh, it looks almost like the green is nearest the surface of screen, followed by red a bit deeper inside, and blue deeper still20:56
ShadowJKunless it's just optical side effect of magnificaiton20:56
Estel_We don't want to get merged with appsformeego, yep? ;)20:56
DocScrutinizerEstel_: I'm still not rejecting the idea20:56
Estel_which means?...20:57
ShadowJKmerged with appsformeego?20:57
dafoxhmm, even if the screen is rgb in landscape mode, how does that translate to what the actual driver thinks ? E.g. maybe rgb means bottom-to-top r-g-b in landscape mode?20:58
ShadowJKBut if the images above look best in "rgb"?20:59
Estel_ShadowJK,  yea20:59
Lava_Croftnn20:59
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Estel_have You gone through logs from last council meeting with Nokia?21:00
dafoxShadowJK: hmm good point21:00
ShadowJKEstel_, no21:00
Estel_They don't only show ignorance, arrogance, and that they (Nokia) dont have a clue of what they're saying...21:00
Estel_this is normal, so we're used to it ;)21:00
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Estel_They're also planning to merge to-be-closed appsformeego with Maemo21:01
Estel_without even asking Council about opinion, not to mention asking if we want it or not21:01
Estel_when SD69 stated that he will open discussion about it amongst Community, they stated that it's not community buisness ;)21:02
Estel_+ negating Council mandate to represent Community21:02
Estel_see:21:03
Estel_http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1150353&postcount=68221:03
dafoxmm perhaps it is the bci: I found I guide to enable it (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=14550) , so presumably it is disabled by default21:03
DocScrutinizerEstel_: it means I might consier it as soon as we got a) some sysadmin who knows how to set up a proper repo on a server, and some maintainer willing to use that repo as a mirror of maemo.org repo21:04
Estel_DocScrutinizer,  ok, understood21:04
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Estel_but, could it be listed as possible solution21:04
DocScrutinizeryes21:04
Estel_or You're still unsure?21:04
Estel_thanks21:04
Estel_I'm willing to write some roadmap with possible alternatives listed in case of fail21:04
DocScrutinizergood21:05
Estel_You know, I don't wanted to quote You on that without confirming :P21:05
Estel_as for maintainers, CSSU would love to use mirrored repo aas soon as available AFAIK21:05
ShadowJKhey does qgil still work at nokia21:05
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Estel_same for kp21:06
* ShadowJK hasn't been to tmo for months21:07
ShadowJKwhen did they add a harmattan/n9 section21:07
Estel_...21:09
Estel_long time ago, aproximatelly few months21:09
Estel_this BS is spamming "active topics" list with useless crap21:10
Estel_but repos merge is bigger problem21:10
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Estel_ShadowJK,  basically there is consensus now, (if we don't count some bored trolls) that it's high time to say 'goodbye' to Nokia21:13
Estel_does anyone know a channel, where SD69 is easy to catch?21:16
* ShadowJK hasn't installed or updated anything in months and months21:16
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Estel_You moved to other projects, eh? ;)21:19
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ShadowJKno21:20
ShadowJKoh actually I did do something, made my charge script blink yellow and green21:21
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gulyDocScrutinizer: if it's just a matter of setup/mantain a repo, i offer myself as a sysadmin21:21
DocScrutinizerok21:21
DocScrutinizerwould you need full root permissions to install it?21:22
DocScrutinizerand to maintain21:22
DocScrutinizerguly: btw we should switch this convo to #maemo-ssu21:23
gulyno IIRC unprivileged user is enough21:24
gulyok i'm joining21:24
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