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happymonkeyanyone know where I can get the md5sum for debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma ?04:37
happymonkeyI see that there is an md5sum check made using /home/user/img-install/debian-installer.sh but I'm wondering where I can find this?04:42
happymonkeyah got it 39e487fd2d427521159d0283ff16543704:48
happymonkeyhttp://qole.org/imagelist-fremantle-0104:48
happymonkeyok so it's a clean download04:49
happymonkeythat's a relief04:49
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happymonkeyso does anyone know what the matter is then, lzma -dv debian-m5-v3d.img.ext2.lzma05:11
happymonkeylzma: Decoder error05:11
happymonkeyif the image is good05:11
happymonkeyis it a free memory thing?05:11
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Minzehi there09:24
Minzeis there yet a release of alien dalvik for the N900 or N909:26
Minzeor some community driven project alike alien dalvik?09:26
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n900-twTest14:37
merlin1991test back14:39
n900-twUsing pidgin on n900 for irc, not much area left to view the chat14:40
n900-twXchat gives more view14:40
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Paliping X-Fade14:56
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Pali~seen X-Fade14:56
infobotx-fade is currently on #maemo (1d 4h 51m 46s) #harmattan (1d 4h 51m 46s) #meego (1d 4h 51m 46s). Has said a total of 41 messages. Is idling for 23h 32m 4s, last said: 'gri: Security through obscurity is always a false sense.'.14:56
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Macerwell at least the last thing he said was rather philosophical14:59
Macerlol14:59
Macertech zen14:59
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swiftkickdoes the n900 support HSDPA ?15:19
auenfiirc, yes15:20
auenf10/215:20
bindiuh15:22
bindii'm pretty sure it's 14.415:22
bindiactually, i'm sure :p15:23
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auenf"3 Maximum speed up to 10 Mbps (DL).15:24
auenf4 Maximum speed up to 2 Mbps (UL). "15:24
auenfhttp://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/Device_specifications/N900/15:24
bindii've hit 14 Mbps on 3G15:24
auenfnot with n90015:24
bindiyes15:24
bindiexactly with N90015:24
auenfbits or bytes?15:25
bindiI can give you a speedtest of somesort if you remind me this night, when people are sleeping and I get full speed15:25
bindib for bits15:25
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bindihttp://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/nokia-n900/specifications/15:26
bindiHardware15:26
bindi2 Requires data service. Data services may not be available in all networks. Data transmission speeds may be as high as HSDPA 14.4 Mbps15:26
auenf"HSPA, maximum speed up to 10 Mbps (DL), 2 Mbps (UL)"15:26
bindiData transmission speeds may be as high as HSDPA 14.4 Mbps15:27
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auenfwouldnt be suprised if that footnote is left over from another model15:29
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auenfhttp://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/nokia-2320-classic/specifications/15:30
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auenfif you take that footnote literally, then a 2G only device can transfer at 14.415:31
bindiI have first-hand experience of receiving 14.4 Mbps on an N90015:31
auenferr, 2.75G, but point still stands15:31
auenflooks like its a generic footnote on all phones15:32
SpeedEvilbindi: wow15:32
auenfhttp://www.nokia.com/us-en/products/phone/nokia-1616/specifications/15:33
auenfawesome, 14.4 on a phone with no data capability15:33
bindi:p15:33
bindiI can give you a 1GBnull wget or a speedtest.net result at midnight15:33
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auenfhttp://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=622457&postcount=1715:38
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merlin1991~iow19:21
infobotiow is, like, In Other Words19:21
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Venemohey19:49
Venemois the CSSU anywhere near stable enough to be worth bothering with?19:49
NIN102CSSU has a stable branch19:50
NIN102so the answer is probably: yes.19:50
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Venemommhm19:50
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merlin1991Venemo: stable cssu is stable enough to be worth bothering with20:05
* merlin1991 can say that since he is responsible for cssu stable ;)20:06
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Venemomerlin1991, all right, installing it now :)20:26
merlin1991Venemo: in case you have mhd installed get rid of it before installing cssu20:26
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Venemomerlin1991, I'm giving my N900 to my father. he is not too much of a tech enthusiast, but he wants to have a phone with which he can browse the web.20:27
Venemomerlin1991, I myself had been using the cssu-testing since its inception :)20:28
merlin1991:)20:28
merlin1991what are you using now? n9?20:28
Venemowell, I have both the N950 and the Lumia, and not enough free time to hack on the N900 anymore20:28
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Venemounfortunately I don't have the N920:29
merlin1991well you can't hack on it at all20:29
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Venemohmm?20:30
merlin1991ssh and you're fine, but doing stuff on the device with the vkbd sucks20:30
Venemotrue. but as I said, I don't have it.20:31
BluesLeeVenemo: are you developing for the lumia?20:31
VenemoBluesLee, not specifically for the Lumia, but I've been working on a WP7 project, yes.20:32
BluesLeeVenemo: i have also a lumia, i mean i am not proud of having a wp device but i have this guy20:33
VenemoBluesLee, to be honest, the Lumia 800 feels a lot like a finished product than the N950. I can't comment on the N9 though, as I don't have one.20:33
BluesLeeVenemo: but compared to my n9 its good enough for a drawer20:33
Venemohehehe20:34
BluesLeehonestly, its about 99,9% in a drawer, there are so many things i dislike and i used it only for 10 minutes20:34
Venemofor example?20:35
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BluesLeem$ bought skype for several billions, its well integrated in all os'es, guess on which os its not available so far?20:36
BluesLeeyou can add weather tiles to the "home" screen but the tile does not update you with wearther informations, i would expect this20:37
BluesLeem$ restricts the developer too much to theri standards20:37
Venemoheh, well20:38
VenemoI've been a .NET dev for a long time20:38
BluesLeeyou cant update web informations on a regular basis (only >=30 minutes) but you may use therir push services20:38
BluesLeetiles have to be 173x173 etc etc20:39
BluesLeei wish nokia the very best with wp, i dont think that they will succeed with that, only if they modify the ui20:41
BluesLeeharmattan is much, much more intuitive20:41
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BluesLeehow do you switch from the "event" screen to the "app" screen? have a look http://triangle-ware.net/wp-content/uploads/Windows-Phone-7.jpg20:43
ruskiesi this is now #wp20:44
ruskie?20:44
BluesLeeruskie: yeah, i am talking about wp20:44
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BluesLeeit would be interesting to know how many lumias nokia sold so far20:46
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