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| * SpeedEvil just ordered a new battery for his n900. Two weeks talk-time. | 00:34 | |
| DocScrutinizer | haha, I just got an "official" (HAM) update for cbrpager from 0.9.30-1 auf 0.9.30-1 (SIC!). Size needed: 0k, who might have guessed :-P | 00:35 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380351933464 | 00:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~seen javispedro | 00:49 |
| infobot | javispedro <~javier@Maemo/community/contributor/javispedro> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 2d 4h 1m 41s ago, saying: 'I want my VGA card back'. | 00:49 |
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| luke-jr | <DocScrutinizer> or check the work of err… HNZ was his nick iirc, about codec's digital parametric filters. He patched ALSA to set the register values for the digital filter | 01:33 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: got a link? | 01:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sorry, nope | 01:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | but I guess in chanlogs you could find sth | 01:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or on tmo | 01:40 |
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| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: can't find any reference of it via Google :/ | 02:00 |
| * luke-jr wonders what happens to TMO when Nokia stops paying for maemo.org | 02:05 | |
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| merlin1991 | luke-jr: a fund raiser? :D | 02:07 |
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| Macer | lol | 02:09 |
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| Macer | luke-jr: depends on what nokia wants to do with it | 02:09 |
| Macer | either give it to "the community" or keep it and give people the finger :) | 02:10 |
| Macer | webos opensource! | 02:10 |
| Macer | woo! | 02:10 |
| Macer | too bad the n900 hw still isn't open | 02:10 |
| Macer | then we could have webos on the n900! | 02:10 |
| luke-jr | Macer: Gentoo will get there first :D | 02:10 |
| Macer | probably | 02:10 |
| Macer | which is sad | 02:10 |
| Macer | nokia with their old hardware | 02:11 |
| Macer | :) not letting it go to the public | 02:11 |
| Macer | actually. it is probably more ti than nokia | 02:11 |
| Macer | i am sure a lot of omap4 tech could be found in omap3 | 02:11 |
| Macer | so they are being ip bastards | 02:11 |
| luke-jr | pretty sure TI has released everything of theirs | 02:11 |
| luke-jr | just not PowerVR and Nokia custom crap | 02:12 |
| Macer | you think? | 02:12 |
| Macer | well.. ther are other things | 02:12 |
| Macer | the gps cam etc | 02:12 |
| Macer | and of course.. the modem :-P | 02:12 |
| luke-jr | cam driver is open, except for firmware | 02:12 |
| luke-jr | cam, GPS, modem aren't TI either | 02:12 |
| Macer | so nokia is holding out | 02:13 |
| Macer | :) | 02:13 |
| Macer | bastards | 02:13 |
| Macer | nokia probably lic everything else anyways | 02:13 |
| Macer | so i'm sure it isn't them alone | 02:14 |
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| Macer | but if the n900 were wide open that would be nice | 02:14 |
| Macer | it will never happen tho.. that isn't being realistic | 02:14 |
| Macer | even if the n900 was 10 years old | 02:14 |
| Macer | and the reason: because people never want to see open src developers do better than they did when they had it and turn it into something people wanted | 02:14 |
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| Macer | wanted/want ;) | 02:15 |
| Macer | i can see it now.. an overabundance of n900s shipped from ebay to get this new awesome portable os that nobody knew about until nokia completely opened the hardware | 02:15 |
| Macer | living the dream i suppose | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/search?q=http://www.musicdsp.org/files/Audio-EQ-Cookbook.txt | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | MNZ | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-09-07.log.html#t2010-09-07T00:43:14 | 02:19 |
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| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: broken links :/ | 02:20 |
| luke-jr | aha, fixed | 02:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | *you* broke them | 02:21 |
| luke-jr | drag and drop of them did :P | 02:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/%23/#/;s/#/%23/ | 02:22 |
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| luke-jr | looks like he failed :| | 02:28 |
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| luke-jr | http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/0001-Support-for-tlv320aic3x-codec-highpass-filter-needed.patch | 04:30 |
| luke-jr | created from https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=aic34-eq;a=summary | 04:30 |
| luke-jr | anyone know how to finish it? there's a TODO that says it will only work right at 48kHz right now… :/ | 04:31 |
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| slonopotamus | anyone still maintains community patches to diablo kernel? | 07:22 |
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| mintux | what is last version of maemo ? | 08:28 |
| luke-jr | #Harmatta | 08:34 |
| luke-jr | #Harmattan | 08:34 |
| mintux | is it meego? | 08:35 |
| mintux | im in this page http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php | 08:36 |
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| dm8tbr | mintux: it's maemo, marketing calls it meego | 08:39 |
| mintux | hmm means all tools on maemo is active ? | 08:39 |
| mintux | where can I download it? | 08:40 |
| luke-jr | mintux: it's not available for N900, and you need to prove you own N9 to download | 08:40 |
| mintux | hmm so what last version of meamo for n900 | 08:40 |
| mintux | ? | 08:41 |
| dm8tbr | pr1.3 | 08:41 |
| mintux | in wikipedia is 21.2011.38-1 | 08:41 |
| mintux | but in download page http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php we have PR 1.3 version 20.2010.36-2 | 08:41 |
| mintux | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo | 08:42 |
| dm8tbr | that is CSSU what they mention on WP | 08:43 |
| dm8tbr | at least I guess it is | 08:43 |
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| dm8tbr | no idea | 08:43 |
| mintux | means is it good to install or not? | 08:44 |
| mintux | is it for test and under develop ? | 08:46 |
| luke-jr | mintux: Nokia has left N900 out to die, unfinished | 08:48 |
| mintux | it's awful | 08:49 |
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| mintux | where can I find that image ? | 08:51 |
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| villager | dm8tbr: no, it's not cssu... pr1.3.1 was released by nokia, but only really contained a security fix, not much else | 08:59 |
| hiemanshu | security fix = removing the compromised certificate which CSSU already did | 09:01 |
| villager | yes that fix was also integrated into cssu | 09:01 |
| villager | a few days later I think | 09:02 |
| villager | or was it just the compatibility with pr1.3.1 that was fixed a few days later? hmm | 09:05 |
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| Sicelo | mintux: 21.2011.38-1 is not a flashable image. u flash 20.2010.36.2, the update to the former. it just update 3 or 4 packages | 09:07 |
| mintux | hmm | 09:07 |
| luke-jr | oh wow | 09:08 |
| luke-jr | so it looks like Maemo's udev *does* work without SYSFS_DEPRECATED after all(!) | 09:08 |
| mintux | how about nitroid on n900 is it good ? | 09:09 |
| luke-jr | mintux: LOL | 09:09 |
| mintux | ans stable ? | 09:09 |
| Sicelo | not recommended, at least here. highly likely to result in a need to reflash. well, others use it | 09:10 |
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| mintux | can we have both of them together ? | 09:11 |
| Sicelo | u boot one or the other. nitdroid is not chroot like easy debian | 09:11 |
| Sicelo | btw, anyone knows how i can check which dns servers my N900 uses? | 09:12 |
| Sicelo | /etc/resolv.conf remains 127.0.0.1. iirc that's because of avahi. | 09:14 |
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| villager | Sicelo: it's using dnsmasq I think... which forwards to the active interface's resolv.conf in /var/run | 09:18 |
| Sicelo | dnsmasq rather | 09:18 |
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| Sicelo | ah, yes :) | 09:18 |
| Sicelo | thanks villager. got it | 09:19 |
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| SpeedEvil | Wacky. | 09:41 |
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| vdv | hi all | 13:07 |
| andre__ | yo. | 13:08 |
| vdv | is there any app to create groups in application menu? or can be that done without any additional app? | 13:08 |
| andre__ | Catorise | 13:09 |
| andre__ | or read http://wiki.maemo.org/Application_menu :) | 13:09 |
| vdv | ahh, good | 13:11 |
| vdv | andre__, thanks :) | 13:11 |
| andre__ | np | 13:12 |
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| vdv | is catorise better than apmefo? | 13:18 |
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| vi__ | vdv: they are both shit. | 13:31 |
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| vi__ | Just create folders using the native xml menu layout thing. | 13:32 |
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| godtrunks | Hy, i have a problem with my n900 | 13:32 |
| godtrunks | I cannot install or uninstall a program | 13:33 |
| godtrunks | What should i do? | 13:33 |
| vdv | vi__, ok, thanks :) | 13:33 |
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| godtrunks | And i have also this error | 13:34 |
| godtrunks | /home/user # apt-get remove firefox | 13:34 |
| godtrunks | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. | 13:34 |
| godtrunks | What should i do? | 13:34 |
| godtrunks | And on that command | 13:35 |
| godtrunks | I have this error | 13:35 |
| godtrunks | dpkg: unable to open/create status database lockfile: No space left on device | 13:35 |
| godtrunks | Can anyone help me? | 13:36 |
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| neal | apt-cache clean | 13:37 |
| neal | if that fails, you can try: rm -rf / | 13:37 |
| ekze | :D | 13:37 |
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| godtrunks | Not working | 13:38 |
| godtrunks | /home/user # apt-cache clean | 13:38 |
| godtrunks | E: Invalid operation clean | 13:38 |
| neal | I meant apt-get clean | 13:38 |
| neal | sorry | 13:39 |
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| vdv | after editing hildon.menu how can refresh application menu, so that i saw changes? | 14:16 |
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| vi__ | restart hildon-desktop | 14:20 |
| vi__ | or somthing | 14:20 |
| vi__ | lol, i dunno | 14:20 |
| vi__ | reboot | 14:20 |
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| drj_cro | hi. i have problem with omweather. it doesn't update anymore from weather.com | 14:42 |
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| ruskie | drj_cro, that would be due to weather.com changing things recently | 15:07 |
| ruskie | and basically breaking anyone using them as the datasource on any system really | 15:07 |
| ruskie | xbmc had the same issue | 15:07 |
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| drj_cro | ruskie: thnx | 15:10 |
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| ruskie | and from what I gathered they changed the terms of use as well | 15:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | dang, gfx core fsckd up? dialer randomly created black rows and cols of keys on pressing a key | 16:17 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | rewboot fixed it, but it's annoying anyway, first time I seen this | 16:17 |
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| luke-jr | whee, Gentoo booting successful with udev 164 :D | 18:34 |
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| FireFly | Am I missing something, or is it impossible to have top bar with hildon-status-menu etc visible while MicroB is in portrait mode? | 18:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | RST38h: could I somehow deactivate the global X-closechan button lower left in xchat? | 18:55 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it's a friggin annoyance | 18:56 |
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| Pali | Open source tool for cold-flashing RX51 is here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80840 | 20:00 |
| luke-jr | Pali: replied | 20:03 |
| slonopotamus | nice | 20:04 |
| Pali | luke-jr: answer on TMO | 20:05 |
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| luke-jr | slonopotamus: you don't boot Gentoo N900 yet, right? | 20:05 |
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| Pali | see my post on TMO: my program has one problem: flasher send 8bytes which is different for other NOLO versions | 20:06 |
| Pali | and I do not know how to genreate that 8bytes | 20:06 |
| slonopotamus | luke-jr: no plans to | 20:07 |
| Pali | ping DocScrutinizer | 20:07 |
| Pali | see ^^^^^ | 20:08 |
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| slonopotamus | luke-jr: we've got one more follower (Domikik Komzik) though i dunno who is it | 20:12 |
| slonopotamus | *Dominik | 20:12 |
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| luke-jr | w00t, KDE 4.6 running | 20:20 |
| slonopotamus | wanna test my arm assembly patch that deals with armv6 cpu cache? :P | 20:22 |
| luke-jr | eh? | 20:22 |
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| slonopotamus | glibc >= 2.12 makes oops on diablo kernel | 20:23 |
| luke-jr | slonopotamus: this is N900/fremantle-power | 20:23 |
| slonopotamus | meh | 20:23 |
| slonopotamus | this is #maemo | 20:23 |
| luke-jr | … | 20:25 |
| luke-jr | Fremantle is Maemo | 20:25 |
| luke-jr | :p | 20:25 |
| slonopotamus | maemo is dead. fremantle isn't 100% dead. whence, fremantle isn't maemo. | 20:26 |
| slonopotamus | luke-jr: i managed to get banned on #mer :) | 20:27 |
| luke-jr | O.o | 20:27 |
| jaska | would mer development environment be called merde? | 20:28 |
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| luke-jr | … why does KDE netbook mode only allow 1 app at a time | 20:29 |
| slonopotamus | luke-jr: stskeeps was very nervous when someone discussed ugliness of obs. | 20:29 |
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| kerio | luke-jr: because why would you need more? /s | 20:38 |
| kerio | users don't know how to manage apps! | 20:38 |
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| Sicelo | hmm, i've asked here a number of times how to use the blue keys for Easy Debian.. such as the numbers | 22:33 |
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| Sicelo | just now i notice that if i run the applications via `debbie', i have no issues at all | 22:34 |
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| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: hmm, charger script doesn't want to stop at 100%… any ideas? XD | 23:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | luke-jr: what does it do? charge to 120%? | 23:30 |
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| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer51: no, just keeps "CHARGING" at 100% and says not full :/ | 23:32 |
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| luke-jr | IIRC, keeping these batteries at 100% constantly damages them | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, that's exactly what bme does though | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | not though the script | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | it will eventually finish | 23:34 |
| luke-jr | hmm, it's been a few hours already… | 23:34 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | unless you constantly consume a lot of power for system | 23:34 |
| luke-jr | it's basically idle for now | 23:35 |
| pfavr | Is it possible to suppress notification messages (e.g. receiving SMSes)? | 23:36 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hmm, no screen, no wlan, no constant GSM data xfer? no heavy CPU load | 23:36 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer51: of course wlan is active :P | 23:39 |
| * luke-jr pulls the USB cable <.< | 23:39 | |
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| luke-jr | hmm, I'm assuming it's as efficient as BME… is that wrong? | 23:43 |
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| luke-jr | FWIW, off-USB, Intel powertop reports 0.2W (22 hours) | 23:44 |
| luke-jr | ~100 wakeups per sec | 23:44 |
| luke-jr | with KDE 4.6 running and wifi | 23:44 |
| luke-jr | and Konversation for IRC | 23:45 |
| luke-jr | with about 50 channels <.< | 23:45 |
| StyXman | luke-jr: wow | 23:45 |
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| luke-jr | now if only Plasma worked sanely… | 23:46 |
| luke-jr | … and ofono | 23:46 |
| luke-jr | also need to figure out a touchscreen lock | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | current drawn from charger chip has to stay under the charge-end threshold for some 15s | 23:46 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | themthreshold gets set in charger script and for all I know it's sane | 23:47 |
| luke-jr | hmm, I guess I should upgrade to KDE 4.7 | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | unless you have power spikes every 3 s | 23:47 |
| luke-jr | … need an Alt key too | 23:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | anyway, after some 4h a timeout expire and charging ends no matter what | 23:48 |
| luke-jr | 10 hours with screen on, and using it :o | 23:49 |
| luke-jr | I didn't get that kind of runtime even with Maemo | 23:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | other than bme the charge script will resume charging when battery dropped to ~75% | 23:49 |
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| * luke-jr sighs at X.org's evdev driver not having any form of right-click emulation… | 23:50 | |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 10h runtime is way to much power consumption to let charge end get detected | 23:50 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 10h = 130mA, charge-end thrhld is 50mA iirc | 23:51 |
| luke-jr | without KDE running: | 23:52 |
| luke-jr | Power usage (ACPI estimate): 0.3W (13.3 hours) (long term: 1.2W,/3.4h) | 23:52 |
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| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer51: any idea why it only drops to 250 MHz rarely even when idle? | 23:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | cpufreq / governor / rules wrong? | 23:57 |
| luke-jr | ondemand 125-600 MHz… :/ | 23:58 |
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| trumee | is there irc client which works in portrait mode on N900? | 23:59 |
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