IRC log of #maemo for Tuesday, 2011-11-01

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Jaffaachipa: How many depend on libqtm-12* in Extras?00:05
achipanot many (sadly ? luckily?) as promotions have been super slow lately00:06
achipaqmltube and mbarcode are the obvious ones00:06
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achipaJaffa: don't see any others...00:09
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achipaJaffa: but that's not really sure... I can't see any libqtm-11 dependencies and I'm pretty sure there is an app or two who uses it...00:11
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achipawish I had a proper scratchbox install not just this web frontend00:12
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jabisJaffa: my house is like a 3G black hole - go to the bathroom and no signal, come to the kitchen -> full bars00:14
jabisactually an understatement - there just plain and simple is no signal for anything in my bathroom - I suppose it's an omen -.-00:15
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achipaJaffa: wireless doesn't solve your problems... it just makes them invisible00:18
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achipaanyway, too tired to try and convince myself to bring at least one machine into a scratchbox-capable state... will have to wait till tomorrow00:19
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mr_jrtx29a: Poking around in the vars view suggests it's that old favourite - not rebuilding/linking properly when you change class members :/ ...and a full rebuild confirms it. Grrr.00:52
x29aarr00:53
x29awhat method do you use? subdir template?00:54
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* timeless found someone w/ an N901:06
x29adito01:09
x29aits a pretty slick phone01:09
x29athough id want an n95001:09
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jonwilbah, I could have sworn information/code about tablet-browser-daemon or browser-neteal or something was out there but now I cant find it01:32
drifternope01:33
x29achuck testa01:33
drifter...nowhere01:34
jonwilwhy do you say that? :P01:35
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drifterfor the lulz01:42
drifter:P01:42
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MohammadAGcrashanddie, there?02:55
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cdahmedehhello! is it possible to use google voice for outbound calls to landline on the n900?03:41
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HyperSnyperjonwil > "btw I bet, though Nokia didn't care to keep the UI working, all the NetMonitor functions are *still* burried in BB5 FW"04:14
HyperSnyperDoc was talking about that couple days ago, is that something you could look into ;P04:15
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jonwilMessing with low level stuff like the baseband or bootloader is not something I have the wish to do04:23
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jonwildamn, I found yet another thing that used to be available from some site but no longer exists :(09:01
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jonwilLooks like there existed somewhere a browser-neteal-dev package but the only links I have are broken09:04
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jonwiloh wow09:40
jonwilhttps://vcs.maemo.org/svn/browser/client-server/trunk/neteal/include/neteal.h is nice09:40
jonwilold but nice09:41
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mecejonwil, what's this now?09:49
jonwil?09:49
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jonwilIts a header file (MPL licensed at that) for the browser-neteal packager09:50
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archlhi, anybody have a custom build of meego which only run necessary phone and address book application and a pure text editor.11:45
arnetbetter to ask on #mer11:45
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jonwil~seen mr_jrt12:07
infobotmr_jrt <~j@jamie-thompson.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 11h 15m 13s ago, saying: 'x29a: Poking around in the vars view suggests it's that old favourite - not rebuilding/linking properly when you change class members :/ ...and a full rebuild confirms it. Grrr.'.12:07
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kerioisn't C++ wonderful12:07
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x29aheh, multihighlight12:08
kerio~seen infobot12:08
infobotinfobot is currently on #utos (4d 3h 38m 4s) #asterisk-doc (4d 3h 38m 4s) #botpark (4d 3h 38m 4s) ##t42 (4d 3h 38m 4s) #maemo (4d 3h 38m 4s) #fredlug (4d 3h 38m 4s) ##ols (4d 3h 38m 4s) #n9 (4d 3h 38m 4s) #asterisk-scf-dev (4d 3h 38m 4s) #flyspray (4d 3h 38m 4s) #asterisk-dev (4d 3h 38m 4s) #webos-internals (4d 3h 38m 4s) #opensimpad.org (4d 3h 38m ...12:08
keriooh god12:08
psycho_oreosoverjoyed now with bold fonts bonanza?12:09
psycho_oreos:þ looks almost like stuff coming out of a flood script that script-kiddies used :þ12:09
x29ai enjoy the fact, that infobot is still on #opensimpad.org12:11
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Macert42? :-)12:14
jonwilI downloaded a whole pile of Symbian code in the hope it has more info on what goes on for Cell Broadcast SMS. I am beginning to wish I hadn't bothered :(12:15
jonwilIts a nightmare to even look at12:15
Macerare you developing for symbian?12:15
Maceri dont care what people say. i am gettong an e7 :-P12:16
Macerheh12:16
jonwilno, I am developing for maemo but I figured that possibly Symbian might contain code that does stuff with cell broadcast SMSs that I can use to learn what to do with different channels and thnigs12:16
jonwilbut I am wishing I hadn't bothered12:16
jonwilits a mess of code12:16
jonwiland almost impossible to find anything in12:16
Macerhahaha.. the flaw of "open"12:17
Maceri am guessing the maemo code didnt have anything useful?12:17
jonwilnope obviously12:17
Macermaybe the #meego guys can help if they didnt shoot themselves by now12:18
psycho_oreosMacer, BluesLee would have wanted to talk to you.. and maybe you guys could make a symbian matchmaking couple together :þ12:18
Macerhaha12:18
jonwilI already read the ofono code and that doesn't help12:18
psycho_oreos<BluesLee> someone with an e7 here?12:18
Macerhold pinkies while talking on an n8 and e7?12:18
psycho_oreosoh yeah in the middle of a maemo channel12:18
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Maceri would laugh if blueslee was some ultra hot woman12:19
Macer:-)12:19
Macersee what making fun does to your sex life? best to keep an open mind12:19
Maceri am waiting for them to hit the 352 mark tho12:20
psycho_oreosthere's plenty of fish out there12:20
Macer$35012:20
Maceryeah.. and i am sure all those fish run maemo12:20
Macerhahaha12:20
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psycho_oreosand they would all be thinking what I would be thinking if some other fish was talking about symbian in the middle of maemo channel.. a banstick12:21
Macerwhen amazon has silver e7s for 350 im sold12:21
Macerwhy? people used to talk about symbian all the time here12:21
Macersymbian is not a bad os... just underdemanded and underdeveloped12:21
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Maceri can think of a couple other mobile OSes with a similar story :-P12:22
psycho_oreosthere's one word to sum up talking oranges in an apple area.. OFFTOPIC12:22
Macerand you are wrong... the other fish are in #iphone12:22
psycho_oreosyeah sure, so whats next? discussion of wp7/mango?12:23
psycho_oreosno12:23
Macertraditionally discussions involving maemo have obviously brought comparison to other mobile operating systems12:23
psycho_oreosit was only once in a blue moon12:24
Maceryou dont know what his question was going to be :-) he could have been trying develop a bootloader to put maemo on an e712:24
psycho_oreosyeah right, that's really believable12:25
Macerassumption is the murder of knowledge... as is a closed mind12:25
psycho_oreosits not assumption, its called pre-emptive strike with certainty12:25
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Macerand back in the day discussing mobile operating systems here other tjan maemo was the norm12:25
Macerthan12:25
Maceras each had its own approach to doing things whether you agree or support them or not12:26
Maceranyways.. have to go.12:26
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freddddHm, would anyone be able to guide me in a right direction regarding the following, right now I have my own mail and XMPP server setup, and I got that setup on my N900 (Maemo, CSSU). I also wish to be able to do something similar for contacts, calendar entries and task entries.13:38
freddddBeing able to set something up for it on my server, to then connect to my N900.13:39
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* SpeedEvil just recieved a call from nokia care.14:26
jonwilabout what?14:26
jonwilfaulty n900?14:26
SpeedEvilThey got my n900, and are sending it off to repair - should be a week. But I'm probably getting an E714:27
SpeedEvil(which I'll then ebay and...)14:27
SpeedEvilDown to backup n900.14:27
freddddIs there anyway I could obtain a Nokia recharger and touch pen after, breaking it, and losing it?14:27
freddddI should still have warranty.14:27
SpeedEvilNo.14:27
freddddI bought it in 2009 or so.14:27
SpeedEvilWell - yes14:28
SpeedEvilBut you need to buy them.14:28
freddddDoes anyone know where I could obtain them?14:28
SpeedEvilWhere are you?14:28
freddddI bought a USB to power socket thingy.14:28
freddddAnd I need to plugin the cable in and out 10 - 15 times before it starts charging.14:28
freddddDue to the fact Nokia rechargers have 5 pins or something instead of 6.14:28
SpeedEvilWill it charge reliably using the USB cable, and a computer?14:28
freddddMost likely to make more cash on having everyone to turn to them for rechargers.14:28
freddddYes.14:28
freddddFine on computer.14:28
SpeedEvilCheck for a nokia store in your country - online.14:29
freddddBut if I use my USB to wall socket converter, it does not, and reading online, I read that Nokia did something special to prevent people from using third party rechargers like that.14:29
freddddAlright.14:29
SpeedEvilOtherwise - ebay has lots of similarly shaped objects14:29
freddddI have been wondering about MeeGo.14:29
freddddI do not like it, looks, and functionality, compared to Maemo, but, it will be the successor right?14:29
SpeedEvilThe n9, you mean?14:30
jonwilthere is no successor for Maemo on the N900 as such14:30
jonwilMeeGo is an alternative14:30
SpeedEvilIt's the only 'successor' from nokia that's likely.14:30
freddddSo Maemo, with CSSU, is the latest and greatest for my little neat N900?14:30
jonwilyes14:30
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jonwilits the best option for your N90014:30
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freddddWhat will I do if my Nokia N900 will ever die? It spoiled me so much I do not want another phone. =(14:30
jonwilbuy another N900 from ebay14:30
freddddNot that it will die anytime soon, I treat it like my baby, allow it to sleep on the bed at night, etc.14:30
jonwilor hope someone has released a suitable phone by them14:31
freddddEw, second hand.14:31
SpeedEvilAnd what he said.14:31
jonwilI look after my N900 very much too14:31
freddddI love it, I can not understand why Nokia dumped it like it did.14:31
freddddIf it would die, I would buy it again, if it wuold die again, I would buy it again, and again.14:31
jonwilThey dumped it because carriers didnt like it14:31
freddddIt is perfect, the keyboard, the features, the usability.14:31
freddddNokia why, why...14:31
freddddThe 600 euros I put down for it.14:32
SpeedEvilCarriers in the UK carried the n90014:32
freddddAll worth it.14:32
SpeedEvilAdmittedly not all of them.14:32
jonwilyeah some did14:32
jonwilAlso I think it was dumped because it had no ecosystem14:32
jonwiland wasnt popular because it had no apps14:32
freddddI think Nokia is fucking up in general.14:32
SpeedEvilTo be fair - nokia broke shit.14:32
SpeedEvilNot getting ovi store working.14:32
freddddN900 - Maemo.14:32
freddddThen they dump it focus on MeeGo with Intel.14:32
freddddThen they dump that, and go for Windows.14:32
SpeedEvilAnd about 8 months in - people were being told not to bother with ovi store.14:32
freddddNobody likes Windows Phones, so Nokia will fuck up with that one and have no other things to turn to.14:33
freddddThat is, if Nokia is not purchased by Microsoft yet.14:33
SpeedEvilI like mango.14:33
freddddBut that is really something I fear, one day, my Nokia N900, will, leave its earthly body, and go to mobile phone heaven.14:33
SpeedEvilIn fact, I think I'll just go and eat another.14:33
freddddAnd then... I will not know what to do.14:33
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freddddRight now I am trying to setup synchronisations on my N900.14:34
freddddXMPP, SMTP and IMAP all good.14:35
freddddNow calendar, task list and contact synchronisation, and RSS feed list perhaps too.14:35
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freddddOn my own server if possible.14:35
jonwildoes the N900 do iCal for calendars?14:35
freddddI would have to look for some free software (GPL or so), that is able to do that Microsoft Exchange Server thing my N900 has.14:35
freddddMicrosoft Exchange thing.14:36
freddddI just setup Google Sync with it, was nice, and worked fine.14:36
jonwilyou mean ActiveSync?14:36
freddddBut I really want to set it up on my own server.14:36
freddddEr, hold on.14:36
freddddhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Sync#ActiveSync14:36
freddddYeah, ActiveSync.14:36
freddddHave any experience?14:37
freddddI have a server running, at the address acantha.expressionate.org.14:37
freddddI wish to setup some sort of calendar / task list / contact server and connect it with my N900.14:37
freddddIt uses Debian GNU/Linux.14:37
SpeedEvilNope.14:37
SpeedEvilI have at the moment three calendar entries on my n90014:37
freddddYeah well I keep track on birthdays and stuff.14:37
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freddddAnd I like to keep things synced at two or more places for backup purposes.14:38
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DocScrutinizerfredddd: N900 charger is pretty much USB standard. Just most chargers are not. Short D+- in your wallwart14:43
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DocScrutinizerfreemangordon: see USB charging spec amendment for specifications of short between D+ and D- for signalling fastcharger capabilities to device14:53
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DocScrutinizersorry freemangordon, ETAB - he left14:59
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RST38bis"A steely gaze with little behind it and a firm handshake amplify the appearance of probity."15:28
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DocScrutinizeryeah, I'm sure for a Russian guy this sounds silly - I always thought you guys over there don't know any other way to shake hands ;-P15:42
DocScrutinizeris this an excerpt from a movie scene description from Rambo-II ?15:43
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DocScrutinizeror straight from a tutorial for managers?15:44
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cityLightsregarding the kernel update15:49
cityLightsdid anyone try the new kernel V49 from the forum?15:49
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Trewasfunny how n9 manages to be much more laggy POS than n900 in normal use, four times the memory and still swapping like there is no tomorrow15:58
jonwilIs the web browser on the N9/N950 webkit based?15:59
Trewasyes15:59
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jonwilinteresting how pretty much all smartphone platforms except Microsoft are using webkit for their browsers now16:01
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SpeedEviljonwil: Annoying regressions all round.16:29
SpeedEvilNo way to drag, no flash, no way to change user-agent.16:29
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jonwilanyone know who "owns" http://browser.garage.maemo.org/?16:53
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RST38bis"A local Virginia Republican group has apologized for sending around a Halloween email that depicted President Obama as a zombie with a hole in his head. "17:03
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villagerwow, an official update to maemo 5 today... security updates, apparently...17:11
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DocScrutinizeryup17:12
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pytherI have an updated title "Maemo 5", what is this?18:19
NIN101must be the official security update.18:20
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eMHa__yeah, it says it's a security update18:24
eMHa__there seems more info about http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1116676#post111667618:24
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer ping19:06
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DocScrutinizerfreemangordon: pong19:24
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DocScrutinizer~botsnack19:26
infobotDocScrutinizer: :)19:26
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freemangordonDocScrutinizer you've asked me something earlier today which I don't quite understand19:30
freemangordonsomething about charging19:31
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DocScrutinizerfreemangordon: was an ETAB, sorry19:32
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freemangordonETAB?19:34
DocScrutinizernick autocompletion (by TAB) mishap19:35
x29awrong autocomplete, id assume19:35
freemangordonok19:36
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jesuschristhi guys, anyone has java installed on his n900 ?20:24
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x29ajesuschrist: youre with the devil, right?20:33
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hakkattakk:D20:34
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jesuschristFailed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from20:34
jesuschristi get this20:34
jesuschriston a jar20:34
jesuschristany idea ? :\20:35
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drifterHave you tried google?20:54
jesuschristobviously i tried20:54
jesuschristbut maybe you are a better searcher20:55
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jesuschristwhy dont you try it yourself, ill wait for the answer20:55
jesuschristthanks20:55
drifterHave you seen this?  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2591516/why-its-failed-to-load-main-class-manifest-attribute-from-jar-file20:55
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jesuschristdo i seem like a provider ?20:56
jesuschristahem a programmer20:56
drifteroh lol20:56
jesuschristi just have the jars20:56
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drifterregardless, it doesnt look too technical20:56
jesuschristthats because you dindt read what you posted20:57
jesuschristit says to rebuild the jars and20:57
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drifterdont overlook an article just because you think it's about programming20:57
jesuschristmake a manifesto20:57
drifterhmm20:57
whatever4everMaemo 5 update just popped up...20:57
jesuschristi just have the jars20:57
whatever4everAnyone else upgrade yet?20:57
jesuschristas i said20:57
ShadowJKit's just diginotar isn't it?20:57
drifterone moment20:57
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whatever4everAnyone know about this newest update?20:59
whatever4everIt's from Nokia, right?20:59
drifter"The answer is simple: There is no mainclass attribute in the manifest. These jar files are not made to be executed as applications."20:59
drifter"Are this jar files for a browser, java midlet files for cell phones or just extensions for other programs? "20:59
drifter- http://www.artima.com/forums/flat.jsp?forum=1&thread=11280720:59
drifterThird result on google for search:  "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from"21:00
drifterincluding quotes21:00
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drifterDoes this help?21:00
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drifterThough the answer is simple, I agree the error messages should be more meaningful to end-users.21:01
drifterjesuschrist:21:04
x29awhatever4ever: <villager> wow, an official update to maemo 5 today... security updates, apparently...21:05
drifterjesuschrist: If that helps, please put in a good word with your father for me.21:06
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jesuschristdrifter21:07
jesuschristim yet to chck the linjs21:07
jesuschristlinks21:07
drifterIt says that the jar file isn't meant to be executable21:08
jesuschristpure bullshit21:08
jesuschrist:)21:08
ShadowJKThey started a thread about the security update a fw weeks ago on the forum21:08
drifterIs it made for a browser, is it a java midlet for cell phones, or an extension for another program?21:09
drifterWhat is it?21:09
jesuschristits an app for phones21:09
jesuschristworked like a charm on my e7021:09
ShadowJKjava midlet21:09
whatever4everjust security :<21:09
drifteris that maemo or android21:09
jesuschristsymbian21:10
whatever4everyou find an article x29a?21:10
drifterwell, basically it's missing the standard executable tag21:11
ShadowJKmidlets can't be run under standard java21:11
Sicelojesuschrist: u trying to run that midlet on your N900?21:11
jesuschristyep21:12
jesuschristany help ?21:12
Sicelou have MicroEmulator?21:12
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jesuschristi dont21:12
jesuschristi jave java se21:12
jesuschristfrom oracle21:12
ShadowJKjava se does not run midlets21:12
jesuschristi thought it did, reading on maemo forums uh21:12
jesuschristwhat could i use to run it then ?21:13
ShadowJK<Sicelo> u have MicroEmulator?21:13
Sicelo:)21:13
jesuschristill try it21:13
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ShadowJKand no, there's no app to run lego mindstorm java programs :P21:14
Phlogistiquehi there21:16
Phlogistiquedoes the default terminal support 256 colors?21:17
driftersort of it seems21:17
whatever4everSo what's with the official nokia/maemo update today21:17
Phlogistiquethen something must be wrong with my setup21:17
drifterPhlogistique: I had 256 colors, but the background wouldn't change when I opened curses programs with a different bg color21:18
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SiceloE70 is standard midp java, right, or does it have personal java too?21:19
Phlogistiqueanyone else uses ssh+screen+irssi to irc? care to share how you got utf8 and 256 colors working?21:19
drifterSorry, I used irssi direct from phone21:19
ShadowJKno phone has JavaSE (except if you install it on N900)21:20
Phlogistiquedrifter: ok. it seems text in colors over than the 16 main colors just does not get displayed21:20
ShadowJKwhatever4ever, removes diginotar cert21:20
drifter16 colors? Well, it fooled me.21:21
SiceloShadowJK: Nokia 9xxx family had Personal Java (buggy though) as well as a few UIQ phones21:21
jesuschristok microemu works21:21
jesuschrist:)21:21
drifterPhlogistique: Are you sure colors beyond 16 are ignored? I've used irssi and vim themes that never ignored a color21:22
Sicelokewl jesuschrist.21:22
jesuschristletting you know, microemu works on meego too21:22
drifterPhlogistique: It might have squeezed them into 16 colors but not ignore them.21:23
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Sicelomicroemu works everywhere there's standard java. u can take very same N900 Emu to your pc and it will work21:23
jesuschristit doesnt seem designed for a virtual keyboard still21:24
drifterbye21:24
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Siceloheh, i don't use vkbd at all on my N900. i come from Nokia 9xxx background21:24
jesuschristanyway i see21:25
jesuschristoracle provides21:25
jesuschristjava me21:25
jesuschristdirectly21:25
jesuschristshould it be able to run midlets21:25
jesuschristdirectly ?21:25
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jesuschristSicelo ?21:29
* ShadowJK doubts oracle's java me installs on N90021:29
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jesuschristthe binaries execute21:30
jesuschristtried them21:30
jesuschristnow21:30
Siceloi don't know jesuschrist.21:32
SiceloJava ME :/21:32
Sicelolink..21:32
jesuschristhttp://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javame/index.html21:33
jesuschristif i understood it correctly microemu is a java me emulator21:33
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jesuschristi think it works21:37
jesuschristbut21:37
jesuschristobviously i miss the right syntax21:37
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jesuschristCannot start VM ()21:38
jesuschristCould not create JVM.21:38
Sicelojesuschrist: i'm not a java expert. what i have been saying so far is based on my little experience. so i really have no idea why your oracle gives errors21:40
Sicelobut, that 'could not create jvm' error seems to tell me java is not ready to accept commands21:41
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jesuschristhmm21:46
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Sicelojvm is like your command interpreter for a language like python. if that's not there/working, your java apps won't work21:54
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whatever4everanyone get the n900 update yet?22:12
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dzho"the" update?22:13
whatever4everyeah, I just had teh popup22:13
whatever4everofficial nokia n900 maemo update today22:13
whatever4everNot sure what it covers though22:13
whatever4everSomeone here said it was just security22:13
NIN101An Issue with a compromised SSL certificate authority.22:13
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whatever4everThat's it?22:14
whatever4everIt's like a multiple meg update22:14
whatever4everThose here who have tried the n950 and the n9 - how does it compare to your beloved n900?22:15
NIN101http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=7940022:15
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Sicelowhatever4ever: 15:58 < Trewas> funny how n9 manages to be much more laggy POS than n900 in normal use, four times the memory and  still swapping like there is no tomorrow22:22
whatever4everHow is that possible?22:22
whatever4everAll other devices now, even that vally girls have, are fast as shit22:22
whatever4everiphone, android, etc22:22
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Siceloi dunno. haven't N9 myself. we also don't know how Trewas uses his device22:22
whatever4everIt has the same cpu/gfx hardware as the n950, eh?22:23
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whatever4everI'm going to get CSSU on my n900 soon and hopefully will be more responsive22:23
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Siceloyours isn't responsive? why?22:23
whatever4everIt's an n90022:23
whatever4everI mean, it is fairly responsive, just slw22:23
whatever4everTakes a long time, for example, for GPS apps to launch22:23
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whatever4everby that time I'm already on the highway and it is hard to enter addresses :)22:23
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NIN101the N9 uses so much ram because - afaik - they prestart some programs to make them open faster...22:33
whatever4everSo it should be less laggy then, eh?22:33
NIN101(sure maemo does kinda the same, but...)22:33
whatever4everYeah, I need to learn to optimize those22:33
whatever4everFor example, having pidgin auto start, but probably not a lot of other things22:33
NIN101s/maemo/maemo 5/22:33
infobotNIN101 meant: (sure maemo 5 does kinda the same, but...)22:33
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whatever4everIs meego still not used by most n900 powerusers on a day-to-day?22:33
whatever4everI'm guessing it hasn't many apps22:33
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DocScrutinizerwhy would a power user want to use meego on N900? just for the shits'n'giggles?22:49
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TrewasSicelo: I don't think I have done anything that special with n9, not running more than a handful of apps at a time but still it is quite often completely unresponsive when trying to unlock it22:51
Trewasand after it is unlocked you can't scroll the app menu or change between home screens without 30s delay22:52
TrewasI mean, n900 was occasionally that bad (for example copy a lot of videos to it and then unplug, and it indexes/thumbnails them), but n9 with four times the memory is just as bad every fucking day without having to do anything to trigger it22:54
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DocScrutinizerTrewas: that clearly qualifies for a reflash, and if that doesn't help (with no additional "apps" installed) then you should ask for a replacement device23:03
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petterii think that is quite normal23:07
petterihappened to me also (probably tracker indexing or something)23:09
petterialso updating the feeds seem to "halt" the user interface23:10
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Trewasyeah, I know a couple of couple people with n9's and the UI being stuck / very laggy seems unfortunately common23:12
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petterii disabled all the feeds and have rebooted the device couple of times. It seems to be much better now than in the first week23:13
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Trewastoo bad there is no vmstat command, it would be easy to see how much it is swapping... I mean the 256MB swap is always completely full but I guess it is sometimes changing what is there23:15
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PhlogistiqueIs there a prefered way to change the default browser?23:23
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whatever4ever"(1:49:37 PM) DocScrutinizer: why would a power user want to use meego on N900? just for the shits'n'giggles?" - That's exactly the questions I was asking23:29
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whatever4everSo, your implied answer is, "no reason besides to test it"23:33
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ZogGwhatever4ever why would power user would want n900?23:40
ZogGwhen iphone is shinny with a lot of *khhhmmm* not real *khhhm* apps23:41
NIN101yes, iPhone is better than N900 in every aspect of IT.23:41
ZogGnope23:41
whatever4everWhat is going on here?23:41
ZogGin all aspect of end user23:42
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whatever4everI can't tell if n90 has been taken over by trolls or a different user base23:42
ZogGi would even say not user23:42
ZogGbut consumer23:42
whatever4everif #maemo, rather23:42
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NIN101it was a joke, apparently...23:45
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ZogGi was seriuos23:45
ZogGi liked my n900 more than iphone23:45
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ZogGbut just normal consumer would prefer iphone and i think it's better for him23:46
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ZogGas well as i wouldn't call him user as he doesn't really fully use his phone23:46
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[DarkGUNMAN]evening23:47
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[DarkGUNMAN]has anyone had success sharing the N900 wifi with a windows PC through usb?23:48
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whatever4ever[DarkGUNMAN]: why?23:58
whatever4everBecause you can't recover the wep key from the n900?23:58
whatever4everI remember learning how to reveal wep keys entered into the n900 a while back...23:59

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