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| Estel_ | hello #maemo | 00:46 |
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| Estel_ | Could anyone tell me, on what framerate N900 camera app is recording videos .mp4? (Basically, I mean CSSU one by nicolai, but AFAIK it have not changed yet, at least until freemangordon's patches for 720p recordings got incorporated) | 00:48 |
| Estel_ | the thing is that I've recorded 630 MB video file of very important video, and it got corrupted (header) while saving. RAW video and audio data is there, but mp4 header is totally screwed. After week of sitting in quicktime mov specification and datasheets, I've found a working way to recorver it - basically, suck raw video and audio stream, + encqpsulate them in totally new .mp4 with manual headers creation. | 00:50 |
| Estel_ | it is working almost perfectly - almost, because I can't set framerate that will not result in video/audio desynced at some point in video | 00:50 |
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| Estel_ | audio is playing correctly, just video is either little to slow or too fast | 00:51 |
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| Estel_ | I've tried to check with measuring tools/players, and refference (saved correctly) video from N900, but either I got no info about framerate, or - like players - average framerate is show, and it changes during replay time | 00:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | new improved version of http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/battery/bq27k-detail2 | 00:53 |
| Estel_ | I got desperated and counted all frames (not by hand, of course...), and I'm now trying to divide it by total seconds replay time, but it's showing me replay time in whole seconds, and even few hundres of milisend innacurracy desync video | 00:54 |
| Estel_ | so, thanks in advance ;) | 00:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yay | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | needs a mp4 specialist | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | I only know one: raster | 01:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | but I doubt he'll be available for this unless you manage to catch him on a public channel | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~seen raster | 01:02 |
| infobot | raster <raster@enlightenment/developer/raster> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 6d 14h 47m 18s ago, saying: 'exciting as all hell'. | 01:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | infobot??? | 01:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | LOL | 01:03 |
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| Estel_ | thanks Doc | 01:06 |
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| Estel_ | will try to catch him | 01:06 |
| Venemo_N900 | how can I make my N900 display the "full" version of the windows live sites? | 01:06 |
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| Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, do You know raster TMO account name? I would also try there | 01:08 |
| Estel_ | via pm | 01:08 |
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| DocScrutinizer | haha, rater and tmo | 01:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | raster | 01:08 |
| Estel_ | Venemo_N900, could You elaborate morea. | 01:08 |
| Estel_ | or meego forum, whatever ;) | 01:08 |
| Estel_ | the kind of things where You send message, and message arrive when the person is available - instead of pinging 30 times a day | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.rasterman.com/ | 01:09 |
| Estel_ | oh, thanks | 01:10 |
| Estel_ | despite irc cult following, I think email-like method of communications are also very effective ;) | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think he'll kill you | 01:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~questions | 01:11 |
| Venemo_N900 | Estel_, I'm talking about Microb and the fact that I only see the mobile version of the sites in it | 01:11 |
| infobot | remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people. <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> | 01:11 |
| Estel_ | Recording of Tori Amos encore is worth that ;) | 01:11 |
| Estel_ | Venemo_N900, You need to change user agent | 01:11 |
| Venemo_N900 | Estel_, to what? and how? | 01:11 |
| Estel_ | its strange, cause most of the times microB is recognized as desktop browser... Hm, give me a sec. I never needed to do that on microB ;) | 01:12 |
| Estel_ | DocScrutinizer, You're suggesting I'm not asking questions in agree with "smartway" terms, huh? | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | yup. Thought smewhere in there was sth like "don't send uninvited PM unless you are *sure* the addressee is responsible for your problem" - OWTTE | 01:13 |
| Estel_ | oh no problem, I can always blame DocScrutinizer on irc for forwarding me there ;) | 01:14 |
| Estel_ | joking. | 01:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's why I suggested you try to catch him in a public IRC channel | 01:14 |
| Estel_ | will do, will do... Venemo_N900, open microB and in adress field type: | 01:15 |
| Estel_ | about:config | 01:15 |
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| Estel_ | in "filter" field type 'agent' | 01:15 |
| Estel_ | You will be given strings related to user agent | 01:16 |
| Venemo_N900 | thx Estel_ :) | 01:16 |
| Venemo_N900 | Estel_, what should I enter | 01:17 |
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| Estel_ | last one contain 'general.useragent.vendor;Firefox/3.5 Maemo Browser 1.7.4.8 RX-51 N900' | 01:17 |
| Estel_ | You should change value from "Firefox(...)" to one of Your choidce | 01:18 |
| Estel_ | choice* | 01:18 |
| Estel_ | google for appropriate one | 01:18 |
| Estel_ | for example | 01:18 |
| Venemo_N900 | Estel_, what is the useragent of desktop ff? | 01:19 |
| Estel_ | checking now | 01:19 |
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| Estel_ | erm, it seems that microB user agent is quite strange - it contain all information in "vendor" section | 01:20 |
| Estel_ | I'll look into it, give me a while. I think we'll need to create some entries, not only replace existing | 01:21 |
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| Venemo_N900 | thanks Estel_ :) | 01:26 |
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| Estel_ | Venemo_N900, check: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75012&highlight=microb+user+agent | 01:35 |
| Estel_ | it contain both simple method to disguise Your microB user agent as firefox, and (little more complicated one, to have selection of user agents in status menu | 01:36 |
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| Venemo_N900 | ok, thx :) | 01:37 |
| Venemo_N900 | goodbye Estel_ :) | 01:37 |
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| giorgiline | hello people | 01:41 |
| nox- | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Schuko-Shucks.aspx | 01:43 |
| nox- | (ot) | 01:43 |
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| UberNeo | Guys .. I have teh problem with my mmcblk0p2 on N900 .. as mentioned in the post .. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=50506 please help as i have followed that post but nothing works | 02:57 |
| UberNeo | its getting restarted .. again n again ... | 02:57 |
| UberNeo | dmesg shows lots of errors for mmcblk0 | 02:57 |
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| SpeedEvil | There are no good solutions that will work reliably | 03:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Other than to replace the flash. | 03:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Or the mainboard. | 03:07 |
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| UberNeo | any way to repartion the flash | 03:22 |
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| WhatsInAName | Hey. | 03:31 |
| WhatsInAName | Could anyone help me with where I can go to learn how to make my own applications for my n900? | 03:31 |
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| WhatsInAName | I have zero experience in programming, and I was wondering where I could turn to to start. | 03:31 |
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| SpeedEvil | I'm unsure where to recommend - perhaps python? Any other opinions? | 03:32 |
| WhatsInAName | I'll check it out. | 03:34 |
| UberNeo | SpeedEvil: any opiniion for my broken mmcblk0p2 | 03:34 |
| WhatsInAName | Thanks. :) | 03:34 |
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| SpeedEvil | UberNeo: Unfortunately, no - you may try badblocks over it - in an attempt to get it to remap some of the bad sectors. | 03:35 |
| UberNeo | have already ran .. badblocks -w /dev/mmcblk0p2 many times | 03:35 |
| SpeedEvil | UberNeo: In principle, you can get it to use the SD, not the MMC - but... | 03:35 |
| UberNeo | can i repartition the flash memory .. just taken only the good part | 03:36 |
| UberNeo | and ignoring the bad sector | 03:36 |
| SpeedEvil | In principle, yes. | 03:37 |
| SpeedEvil | But there may not be defined bad blocks. | 03:37 |
| UberNeo | is it a hardware prob in the flsh | 03:37 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 03:37 |
| UberNeo | :( | 03:37 |
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| UberNeo | can Maemo be run out from the micro SD card | 03:38 |
| SpeedEvil | In principle, yes, but nobodies done it as far as I'm aware. | 03:39 |
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| SpeedEvil | You'd need to work out what mounts /opt and /home and ... and fix it to mount from the SD | 03:39 |
| UberNeo | then .. what should I do now .. means .. can i use my N900 again | 03:40 |
| SpeedEvil | :( | 03:40 |
| SpeedEvil | No good suggestions unfortunately. | 03:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Meego will run from the SD | 03:40 |
| UberNeo | but thats damm slow | 03:40 |
| UberNeo | I have already tried | 03:40 |
| ShadowJK | I accidentally once made my N900 run from only nand | 03:41 |
| SpeedEvil | PR1.0 will do that I think | 03:41 |
| ShadowJK | like, it created /home on nand and all | 03:42 |
| ShadowJK | was probably before 1.2, yeah :/ | 03:42 |
| UberNeo | does it means that most of the part in 32 GB flash is gone .. | 03:43 |
| UberNeo | or just /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /home type ext3 -- 2GB | 03:43 |
| SpeedEvil | It depends on the exact design of the flash. | 03:43 |
| SpeedEvil | Some failures can be over small bits, others are more general. | 03:44 |
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| UberNeo | can I just mount /home from sd card | 03:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | a good SMT experienced repair job may replace the eMMC chip | 04:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/job/shop/ | 04:10 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: a good SMT experienced repair shop may replace the eMMC chip | 04:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | eMMC is especially "convenient" to replace as it has a comparatively really low number of relevant balls/pins | 04:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you might even be able to build a small custom flexible PCB and solder that to new eMMC and mobo joint by joint | 04:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | it's like just 11 "wires" needed to contact eMMC | 04:16 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the remaining 185.3 are just NC mech support | 04:17 |
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| ultra420 | anybody online now? | 04:43 |
| ultra420 | all robots? | 04:43 |
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| ultra420 | my N900 get errors,dmesg shows lots of : "end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 59312105"..and it will crash, boot loops without boot success ,i have flashed at least 30 times i thought...any help plz? | 04:52 |
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| Macer | trying to bid on a n900 | 08:10 |
| Macer | im sure it will never work :) | 08:10 |
| Macer | hut would be awesome if i won | 08:10 |
| Macer | but | 08:10 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/21/thinfilm/ | 08:41 |
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| Kowalczyk | hi.. Anyone using the twitter plugin for n900? the one that integrates with conversations and stuff? Im having trouble with it. it logs on,logs off,logs on, logs off. and it says network error.. any idea? | 09:32 |
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| Psi | anyone know why PGZ-latitude-widget is reporting my location to google latitude as 5000km out when im inside | 09:57 |
| Psi | its got something to do with gps reception | 09:57 |
| Psi | also, the location is curiously only 5000km wrong in one direction! | 09:57 |
| Psi | more or less | 09:57 |
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| psycho_oreos | using assisted GPS or just internal GPS? | 09:58 |
| Psi | i dunno which it uses | 09:58 |
| Psi | is there a global option for it? | 09:58 |
| psycho_oreos | its under settings | 09:59 |
| Psi | gps device is "internal gps" | 10:00 |
| psycho_oreos | normally if its assisted GPS your device will connect to either WLAN or GPRS | 10:00 |
| Psi | network positioning is enabled and set to supl.nokia.com | 10:00 |
| Psi | i dont see any option for "assisted gps" | 10:01 |
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| psycho_oreos | no there isn't a setting for assisted GPS but network position is known as assisted GPS in other words | 10:01 |
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| Psi | ok, ill turn that off and see if it fixes the issue | 10:02 |
| Sicelo | apparently supl.nokia.com is in bad shape of late. try supl.google.com | 10:02 |
| Psi | true, ill try that | 10:02 |
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| psycho_oreos | I wouldn't turn it off (network positioning), it greatly benefits your internal GPS with the accuracy with locating where you are | 10:03 |
| Psi | i had figured (wrongly) that network positioning was for cellsite location lookups | 10:03 |
| Psi | yeah, ive changed it to supl.google.com | 10:04 |
| edheldil | psycho_oreos: it should not affect accuracy, just fix acquire time (cold boot), no? | 10:04 |
| psycho_oreos | edheldil, not that I have examined in great detail under all sorts of weather conditions but I'm sure assisted GPS mode is not only faster but generally quite accurate even in cloudy days for instance or indoors/undercover | 10:05 |
| Psi | wow, it does seem to lock faster now | 10:10 |
| Psi | just waiting for pgz-latitude-widget to do its update and ill see if it fixed the 5000km out issue | 10:10 |
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| Psi | yay, it seems to have fixed the issue | 10:19 |
| Sicelo | ;) | 10:20 |
| Psi | thanks guys | 10:21 |
| Psi | (or girls) | 10:21 |
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| ultra420 | :-D | 11:52 |
| psycho_oreos | D-: | 11:55 |
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| vadimq | hi, question: Is it possible to force the N900 attempt to reconnect to the phone network? Here's the thing: on my commute there's a 5 minute stretch when the train is over the ground. Depending on my luck, it may notice that there is a connection quickly, or right before going back underground | 12:00 |
| vadimq | so I'd like to have some way of forcing the phone to look for a tower again, so that I can have enough time to fetch the mail for instance | 12:01 |
| gomiam | vadimq: depending on your status... you might just want to turn it off and on again ;) | 12:01 |
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| SpeedEvil | vadimq: there are a couple of ways - 2g/3g switcher - if you switch modes, it works - or offline/online mode | 12:02 |
| vadimq | SpeedEvil: aha, thanks, will give it a try | 12:03 |
| SpeedEvil | Or of course, switch on/off | 12:03 |
| SpeedEvil | off/on | 12:03 |
| SpeedEvil | but... | 12:03 |
| vadimq | yeah, but that's a pain | 12:03 |
| vadimq | also, I open pages for reading without a connection | 12:04 |
| SpeedEvil | Indeed | 12:04 |
| SpeedEvil | http://maemo.org/packages/view/3g2g-mode-selection-applet/ | 12:05 |
| ultra420 | hey....guys...my N900 always crash:with lots of error in dmesg: mmcblk0: error -84 transferring data, sector 59312104, nr 8, card status 0x900. [ 238.523193] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 59312104 | 12:07 |
| SpeedEvil | Unfortunately, that's a hardware fault. | 12:09 |
| ultra420 | okay | 12:10 |
| ultra420 | thanks..i was suffer these days i realy love N900.. | 12:10 |
| SpeedEvil | :/ | 12:10 |
| ultra420 | i would like to buy another one.. | 12:10 |
| SpeedEvil | In principle, it's possible to run maemo from the SD, but nobody has reported on how to do this. | 12:11 |
| psycho_oreos | ultra420, that isn't your microSD isn't it? | 12:14 |
| psycho_oreos | those dmesg errors | 12:14 |
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| ultra420 | yeah...dear psycho_oreos,there is no micro SD in it now | 12:16 |
| ultra420 | i have drop sim ,sd Card away | 12:16 |
| ultra420 | and then i flash the N900 ,without install packages,it is just naked...but it still crashed...i feel painful..i do wanna another N900 now | 12:16 |
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| psycho_oreos | ultra420, that's the eMMC playing up then heh, overusage may lead to that. I've seen something similar with my class 10 microsdhc but a kernel patch fixed the issue | 12:17 |
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| luojie-dune_ | psycho_oreos: hello again, have you heard people installing Java programs.? | 12:17 |
| psycho_oreos | luojie-dune_, not installing java programs but I suppose you can run java stuff after installing icedtea 6 or something like that | 12:18 |
| ultra420 | dear psycho_oreos,do you mean that i could fix my N900's eMMC with a kernel patch ? | 12:18 |
| psycho_oreos | ultra420, no, if stock kernel can't fix it then its a hardware fault as SpeedEvil pointed out | 12:19 |
| ultra420 | :'( okay...thanks..... | 12:19 |
| luojie-dune_ | ultra420: I don't think anyone can confirm the particular problem of your device. | 12:19 |
| psycho_oreos | I have 3 N900, none of them exhibit this problem, not with eMMC anyway | 12:20 |
| ultra420 | -_-! why? i'm suffering for a long time now..i do love this N900 | 12:20 |
| psycho_oreos | it was probably manufactured with defects | 12:20 |
| psycho_oreos | heh | 12:20 |
| luojie-dune_ | psycho_oreos: ... salt on flesh... | 12:20 |
| ultra420 | could i paste a url here? about my N900's record.. | 12:20 |
| psycho_oreos | indeed | 12:20 |
| ultra420 | is it allowed here? | 12:21 |
| psycho_oreos | as long as it goes into pastebin if its more than 3 lines | 12:21 |
| luojie-dune_ | anybody help me get rid of #inkscape. | 12:21 |
| psycho_oreos | well yeah url I suppose would be ok | 12:21 |
| ultra420 | i record it in my dokuwiki | 12:21 |
| SpeedEvil | X | 12:21 |
| SpeedEvil | Stress on the board can also cause the issue | 12:22 |
| psycho_oreos | or that I suppose it may be interesting to look at, though from my end there's no solution that I know can alleviate it | 12:22 |
| SpeedEvil | the MMC is a large, fragile chip | 12:22 |
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| psycho_oreos | I think some people have tried to run fsck && badblocks against it, namely against the /home/user/MyDocs portion | 12:22 |
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| ultra420 | dear psycho_oreos; here is my dokuwiki page for N900's record,my English is very pool, thanks... http://wiki.86420.org/doku.php?id=6self:devices:n900_shame | 12:24 |
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| psycho_oreos | ultra420, some typos, some interesting stuff and maybe you should probably give badblocks another run to see if it helps. Though I wouldn't put high hopes on it | 12:35 |
| ultra420 | dear psycho_oreos,thanks.. i will try for a last time. | 12:36 |
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| BonaC | Hi! | 18:08 |
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| BonaC | I am trying to make my N900's screen to act as a second display for my computer | 18:12 |
| BonaC | Do you know any way to send only one display to the N900? | 18:12 |
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| BonaC | I mean I'm trying VNC atm, but it lags quite heavily. | 18:13 |
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| giorgiline | what is vnc atm? | 18:19 |
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| BonaC | VNC Viewer | 18:23 |
| BonaC | I mean | 18:23 |
| BonaC | I am trying to use VNC at the moment | 18:23 |
| BonaC | So... Any ideas? I tried to add the :1 to the end of the ip address in order to connect only to the second display | 18:27 |
| BonaC | But it's not working. | 18:27 |
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| BonaC | It seems that TightVNC for some reason puts all of the desktops to :0 | 18:29 |
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| giorgiline | so yo want to use the n900 display as it would be a ssecond monitor for your pc? | 18:36 |
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| BonaC | Giorgi: Yes. | 18:46 |
| BonaC | Sorry, I've been busy googling how to make windows VNC treat displays as separate ports like in linux. | 18:46 |
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| joga | BonaC I've never tried anything complex with windows vnc myself. do you currently have one monitor in windows and you want to have a separate desktop (as in multihead) shown on the n900? I'm not sure if windows can do that, a vnc server on linux can spawn just about any number of them with different desktops too, but the windows desktop is different... | 18:53 |
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| BonaC | Yeah, I know it's difficult | 18:54 |
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| BonaC | I mean now RealVNC at my computer sends my primary display and the virtual display meant for the N900 all in one image | 18:55 |
| BonaC | So if I do something graphically intensive on the primary, n900 stops updating the picture | 18:55 |
| joga | I'm kinda thinking stretching the desktop to a fake monitor, setting a proper resolution for it, making vncserver serve just a part of the "dual" screen or the n900 client to only show the relevant part...but it might be difficult to get it proper | 18:56 |
| BonaC | It seems it's possible | 18:56 |
| BonaC | I have to do a manual workaround in registry editor | 18:57 |
| joga | possible, maybe, but is it worth it? ;P | 18:58 |
| joga | ok I guess it might be | 18:58 |
| joga | heh | 18:58 |
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| joga | hmm...might it be easier with an xserver for windows... | 18:58 |
| joga | not the same, really, but depends | 18:59 |
| BonaC | It must be worth it, it would be cost free this way | 18:59 |
| BonaC | If I don't manage to make this work, well | 18:59 |
| joga | you need food and shelter to make it happen ;p | 18:59 |
| BonaC | I have to buy a 200 euro USB monitor for this | 18:59 |
| BonaC | :D | 18:59 |
| joga | "usb monitor"? why | 19:00 |
| BonaC | It would be easier | 19:00 |
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| joga | a normal monitor is not enough? | 19:00 |
| BonaC | They are a bit too big and bulky that I have seen | 19:00 |
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| BonaC | And it ramps up my GTX 460's clocks | 19:01 |
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| joga | a usb display sounds kinda inefficient | 19:01 |
| joga | I'm not sure how they fare | 19:01 |
| BonaC | I don't need it to show any moving picture | 19:01 |
| javispedro | BonaC: joga: funnily I was discussing this moments ago. | 19:01 |
| BonaC | ? | 19:02 |
| javispedro | I had to RMA card days ago and I'm running a USB monitor via DisplayLink | 19:02 |
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| BonaC | Hmm | 19:02 |
| BonaC | :D | 19:02 |
| javispedro | have to say I am NOT able to distinguish it from native | 19:02 |
| javispedro | it's really lagless at 1680x1050x16 | 19:02 |
| joga | hmm, any cpu load or such? | 19:02 |
| javispedro | cannot really measure, as any noticeable increased CPU load is because I am VGAless and thus using a 3d software rasterizer | 19:03 |
| javispedro | either way, 4x3Ghz there's CPU to spare. | 19:03 |
| joga | heh | 19:03 |
| BonaC | Hmm | 19:04 |
| BonaC | I wonder how the display's name is set | 19:04 |
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| BonaC | I mean \\.\display2. didn't work | 19:04 |
| javispedro | ah, windows... | 19:04 |
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| BonaC | :D | 19:04 |
| BonaC | I can't do much gaming on Linux so | 19:05 |
| joga | heh, disk partitions are named nicely too | 19:05 |
| BonaC | ? | 19:05 |
| joga | (can't remember exactly) | 19:05 |
| BonaC | You mean C: etc. | 19:05 |
| joga | I mean the reference to a block device or the partitions on it | 19:06 |
| BonaC | Doesn't ring a bell here. | 19:06 |
| javispedro | note that a 1680x1050 fullscreen video stream does lag on DisplayLink, but at a quarter size there's no lag anymore. | 19:06 |
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| joga | actually it doesn't seem that bad but I think the "?" has some stuff in real world too "\\?\Device\Harddisk0\Partition0" | 19:07 |
| joga | or, no, it might actually be just a "?" | 19:07 |
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| BonaC | I'm quite a noob with Linux | 19:09 |
| BonaC | I set up my home server just about week ago | 19:09 |
| joga | javispedro, it still sounds somewhat alien to me, but what do I know, I just have old trash as hardware ;) | 19:09 |
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| javispedro | math says it's possible. | 19:09 |
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| BonaC | Derp | 19:13 |
| BonaC | This isn't working | 19:13 |
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| BonaC | Now I'm not getting a screen of any kind | 19:13 |
| BonaC | D: | 19:13 |
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| joga | javispedro, possible sure. does it have any influence on other usb devices? (hard disks?) I mean bandwidthwise? (I'm not that sure how it works actually) | 19:15 |
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| javispedro | I'd guess so. But I have 2 controllers on this motherboard, and one is entirely dedicated to this. | 19:16 |
| BonaC | I quess I'm not going to be able to try this | 19:16 |
| joga | though I guess in a way it could be efficient for screens that are not rapidly updated, such as monitoring stuff, I dunno, guess depends a lot on the hardware implementation | 19:17 |
| joga | I've been mostly thinking about usb displays for embedded devices that don't have other ports so I'm a bit biased :) | 19:17 |
| javispedro | *2 USB controllers, I mean. | 19:17 |
| javispedro | I did try DisplayLink on the N900 | 19:18 |
| javispedro | back then there was no udlfb, so I had to use Xvnc | 19:18 |
| joga | how'd it work? | 19:18 |
| javispedro | speedwise it was usable, albeit not really lagless. | 19:19 |
| javispedro | would need to check again with udlfb. | 19:19 |
| javispedro | hm | 19:19 |
| javispedro | jsut remembered something... | 19:19 |
| joga | vnc lags for me on the n900 even over lan and 8-bit colour | 19:19 |
| ShadowJK | too cpu intensive | 19:20 |
| BonaC | I hate this bug in the GTX 460 cards | 19:21 |
| BonaC | They activate the 3D clocks if you attach second monitor. | 19:21 |
| javispedro | BonaC: it is not a bug | 19:21 |
| BonaC | I know | 19:21 |
| javispedro | also, every other single card in the universe does the same thing | 19:21 |
| BonaC | Yeah.. | 19:22 |
| BonaC | brb | 19:22 |
| javispedro | one of the reasons I will never buy a card with TDP > 60W. | 19:22 |
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| kakashi_ | hi can someone help me solve this problem | 19:27 |
| kakashi_ | whenever I keep my n900, by mistake I end up calling someone | 19:27 |
| kakashi_ | any idea how to prevent it | 19:28 |
| kakashi_ | the n900 lock is not so effective sometimes | 19:28 |
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| SpeedEvil | I use the lock on the side | 19:36 |
| SpeedEvil | The slide-lock | 19:36 |
| SpeedEvil | Nto the screen lock | 19:36 |
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| kakashi_ | SpeedEvil, the slide lock in the sense the one on the body? | 19:46 |
| kakashi_ | I mean the one to the side of the body | 19:46 |
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| SpeedEvil | yes | 19:47 |
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| BonaC | I've never managed to do a pocket-call with mine | 20:05 |
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| BonaC | Any news about the community firmware? | 20:06 |
| BonaC | I mean is it safe to download now? | 20:07 |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile: HP's chief strategy officer to retire next month, won't have a successor (he has been the guy behind retaining WebOS) | 20:13 |
| RST38h | cheers, all | 20:13 |
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| javispedro | RST38h: excellent | 20:14 |
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| BonaC | Derp | 20:17 |
| BonaC | I would love the idea of having N900 as a "information monitor" | 20:17 |
| BonaC | But... | 20:17 |
| BonaC | It's a bit too complicated for me. D: | 20:17 |
| BonaC | Even though I am studying to become an ICT technician | 20:18 |
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| BonaC | If that's even english | 20:19 |
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| Macer | damn | 20:19 |
| Macer | i didn't know the AU$ to US$ rate was so good | 20:19 |
| Macer | :) | 20:19 |
| Macer | i thought i was bidding in US and i was bidding in AU lol | 20:19 |
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| BonaC | :D | 20:20 |
| Macer | oh wait | 20:21 |
| Macer | i guess not | 20:21 |
| Macer | wtf | 20:21 |
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| Macer | it is 1:1.03 in favor of the AUD :) | 20:21 |
| BluesLee | hi, has someone experiences with broken usb port? | 20:21 |
| Macer | BluesLee: lol. yes. i failed in having it repaired | 20:21 |
| Macer | i am on ebay trying to get a new n900 with plans to never use the usb port again and see about finding a way to use a charging pad or some other method to charge | 20:22 |
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| BluesLee | Macer: i gave mine away, they told me that it is a mechanical issue, so no guarentee ... maybe i would get an e7 as a replacement | 20:23 |
| BluesLee | Macer: i am really asking myself if i should insist to get my money back | 20:23 |
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| Macer | if i could i would have | 20:24 |
| Macer | i would have demanded my money back | 20:24 |
| Macer | it is a factory issue | 20:24 |
| BluesLee | Macer: as i paid 600€ right in the beginning ... | 20:24 |
| Macer | they were poorly made | 20:24 |
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| BonaC | My N900 also loses connection every now and then | 20:24 |
| Macer | i am trying to find some other means to charge it | 20:25 |
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| BluesLee | DocScrutinizer: ping | 20:25 |
| Macer | i was hoping there was a battery cover for an n900 by now but i guess nobody cares :( | 20:25 |
| BonaC | Car battery, two wires, N900 battery and some balls | 20:25 |
| BonaC | :D | 20:25 |
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| BonaC | It's a shame that N900 has no real successor | 20:26 |
| BonaC | I mean, my N900 is quite much seen now, there's nothing new to it | 20:26 |
| BonaC | Excluding the second monitor idea | 20:26 |
| Macer | http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Mygrid-Starter-Kit-1-Count/dp/B002M3TLLC | 20:28 |
| Macer | i wonder if something like that would work | 20:28 |
| NIN101 | there some threads on TMO about external chargers. | 20:28 |
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| Macer | NIN101: nothing helpful i'm sure :) | 20:31 |
| Macer | lol | 20:31 |
| Macer | i will look tho. i am still working on buying a new n900 :( | 20:31 |
| Macer | stupid usb port. | 20:31 |
| Macer | the nokia engineer who overlooked that mishap should be taken somewhere and shot | 20:32 |
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| BonaC | I quess I will buy Android if my N900 fucks up | 20:34 |
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| BonaC | Kind of a suicide message to tell that I see more potential in Android than Maemo/Meego at a maemo irc channel | 20:35 |
| Macer | heh | 20:36 |
| Macer | well.. it is kind of an obvious statement | 20:36 |
| teilzeitstudent | you should probably check your car before starting it from now on :P | 20:36 |
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| Macer | considering maemo/meego hold like .00000000000001% of the market share | 20:36 |
| BonaC | I don't have driver's license for a car | 20:36 |
| BonaC | Yeah, I guess that Meego would blow all of the current leaders to smitherines if Eflop wasn't in charge @ nokia. | 20:37 |
| SpeedEvil | Assuming that someone with a clue would appear if Elop departed is perhaps a bit wishful thinkign. | 20:37 |
| SpeedEvil | Also. | 20:37 |
| BonaC | :D | 20:38 |
| ShadowJK | dunno, it seemed like meego was working on making it as difficult to get things done on a phone as in android | 20:38 |
| SpeedEvil | N?okia basically lost the plot well over a year ago. | 20:38 |
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| * ShadowJK isn't sure yet whether N9 can read his email or not | 20:39 | |
| BonaC | D: | 20:39 |
| BonaC | But the first windows phone | 20:39 |
| BonaC | It's N9 with a different OS | 20:39 |
| ShadowJK | the openvpn thread is a bit inconclusive on whether one has to crack Aegis first or not before getting vpn | 20:39 |
| javispedro | ShadowJK: doesn't vpn require a kernel module? | 20:40 |
| ShadowJK | yes | 20:40 |
| javispedro | then: yes | 20:40 |
| ShadowJK | and permission to edit routing table, and send commands to the kernel module in order to set it up | 20:40 |
| javispedro | how can it be inconclusive then? | 20:41 |
| javispedro | they were thinking about implementing all of that in userspace? =) | 20:41 |
| ShadowJK | As in the thread was full of Aegis-yayers saying it "should" work, and people saying it doesn't work | 20:41 |
| ShadowJK | I got the impression the people who said it works had some non-evil unreleased version | 20:42 |
| ShadowJK | (of harmattan) | 20:42 |
| javispedro | well, let me think for a moment | 20:42 |
| javispedro | iirc, the required module is tun? | 20:43 |
| ShadowJK | ya | 20:43 |
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| ShadowJK | Supposed to be included? But then you also need to be able to manipulate it | 20:43 |
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| ShadowJK | and openvpn needs permissions to do that | 20:43 |
| javispedro | CONFIG_TUN=y indeed. | 20:43 |
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| javispedro | crw-rw-rw- 1 root root for the device node, which is not bad. | 20:44 |
| villager | normally, root permissions would suffice... vpn just needs to set up new routing tables, most of it happens in userspace, the kernel module needed is a default kernel component | 20:44 |
| javispedro | there's no real root in aegis. you have to enumarate all the posix capabilities separately | 20:45 |
| BonaC | I guess I'm closer to the second display - UltraVNC has the display selection built-in | 20:45 |
| villager | yes, hence "normally"... so more study needed, probably | 20:46 |
| javispedro | both net_Raw and net_admin are available | 20:46 |
| villager | I think openvpn also needs ppp support, but that's probably also in the default kernel | 20:46 |
| ShadowJK | doesn't need ppp | 20:47 |
| villager | okay, maybe that was for something else then | 20:47 |
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| javispedro | I think I'm going to remove my veredict of "busted" and set it to "plausible" | 20:47 |
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| villager | maybe the vpn I needed ppp for was some other vpn type | 20:49 |
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| javispedro | you can do fully userspace ppp though | 20:50 |
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| villager | anyway, the kernel only needs to expose the TUN interface and permit userspace to manipulate it and the netfilter routing tables, then userspace can do the rest | 20:51 |
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| villager | (where netfilter means the stuff manipulated by the "iptables" command) | 20:52 |
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| BonaC | I quess I have to settle with the both screens showing up @ VNC | 21:06 |
| BonaC | UltraVNC was quite a bit faster | 21:06 |
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| BonaC | It fucking works | 21:10 |
| BonaC | Only that it makes my GPU idle @ 50 degrees celsius | 21:10 |
| BonaC | Without the virtual screen it's about 27-38 | 21:10 |
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| woldrich | don't worry. mine hovers around 80... idle | 21:25 |
| BonaC | Radeon 4800? | 21:29 |
| BonaC | Series | 21:29 |
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| madkickers | hi. i have installed a lot of apps on my n900 and now root is out of free space.what can i do now. i have removed some of them but it did't work. disk usage shows that /usr/lib is very large | 21:35 |
| mgedmin | madkickers, quick way to free up some space on root is to disable apt repositories | 21:36 |
| mgedmin | because /var/lib/apt/lists and /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin tend to grow large when you have many repos | 21:37 |
| mgedmin | or you could move stuff from /usr/lib by hand to /opt, then create symlinks | 21:37 |
| madkickers | let me see | 21:37 |
| mgedmin | just don't move any of the built-in libraries: that could end badly | 21:37 |
| mgedmin | make sure things you're moving are part of those "lots of apps" you mentioned | 21:38 |
| ShadowJK | Unbelievable that apps still use / space :-( | 21:38 |
| madkickers | microb-engine,locals and gcc have gotten lots of space. can i move them? | 21:40 |
| ShadowJK | gcc | 21:40 |
| madkickers | only gcc? | 21:41 |
| ShadowJK | or are you talking about libgcc? | 21:41 |
| madkickers | idk, there is a directory in /usr/lib/ which its name is gcc | 21:41 |
| ShadowJK | Do you use gcc? | 21:42 |
| madkickers | sometimes yes | 21:42 |
| ShadowJK | Well it's something that isn't installed by default, so I'd try move the directory to /opt somewhere, and create a symlink to it from /usr/lib/gcc -> /opt/whatever | 21:42 |
| ShadowJK | locale and microb-engine are installed by default, so I'd myself not try move them. They're 22.8M and 23.7M on my device | 21:43 |
| madkickers | good idea, but y can't i do this about microb and locale? | 21:43 |
| ShadowJK | If they are needed before mmc is mounted, your device wouldn't boot, and you'll end up in a reboot loop | 21:45 |
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| ShadowJK | I'd make backups and be prepared to reinstall before touching stuff that's installed by default | 21:45 |
| ShadowJK | Also, some things are considered "important", and if they crash for whatever reason, they'll be restarted 5 times (or something like that), and if they still fail, device will reboot... | 21:46 |
| madkickers | tnx dude. | 21:47 |
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| madkickers | is perl installed by default or i can move it? | 21:56 |
| ShadowJK | yeah it is | 21:57 |
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