IRC log of #maemo for Saturday, 2011-09-24

Atariidamn you random libusb folder with random installer_x64.exe, that I have no idea where you came from00:03
Sicelo ah, so there is libusb for windows, sourceforge.net/projects/libusb-win32/00:05
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Atariiyes00:06
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DocScrutinizerSicelo: use same key on both PC, where's the problem?00:06
Siceloi am ssh'ing with N900 to the pc. N900 is the client00:07
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DocScrutinizersure00:08
DocScrutinizerso you add N900's public key to allowed_hosts of both PCs and done you are, no?00:08
Siceloi haven't yet set up keys, but using passwords00:09
DocScrutinizererr authorized_keys00:10
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Siceloi get fingerprint authentication ...etc, hence the need for ssh-keygen _R00:10
DocScrutinizerwell, so your problem is the changing host auth key?00:10
Siceloyes00:10
DocScrutinizerssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -o UserKnownHostsFile=/dev/null -l user IroN90000:10
Siceloaha, i think that's the one :)00:11
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Sicelothanks. just what i needed (to rtfm)00:14
Sicelo~rtfm00:14
infobotrumour has it, rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM). It is a suggestion to do your homework before posting a question. Sometimes used as RTFM $SPECIFIC_MANUAL to refer to a specific source of information. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM00:14
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DocScrutinizergrep -v "10.42.43.1" known_hosts >kh && mv kh known_hosts00:16
DocScrutinizermight also help a bit00:16
nox-or just comment it out00:16
nox-(and after ssh added the new key you can un-comment the old one in case you still need it)00:17
DocScrutinizerI prefer the above -o options to ssh though, as you can forget about known_hosts with that. (you can set up same options in ssh's config files)00:18
nox-yeah ok thats another way...00:18
Venemohttp://www.ezepic.hu/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/z%C3%A1szl%C3%B3fail.jpg00:19
* Sicelo likes the -o way. i find keeping track of auth keys a bit overkill00:19
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HyperSnyperwow alot more people in here then i thought there would be01:16
HyperSnyperjust researching abit, looking into buying an n900 :)01:16
SpeedEvil:)01:17
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DocScrutinizerHyperSnyper: did you say same thing before? Or is that my deja vu?01:30
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HyperSnyperfirst time i've connected to this network01:32
HyperSnyperjust started looking into them today01:32
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DocScrutinizer:-) then there was someone like you in here not long ago01:35
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HyperSnyperheh, fair enough. do you own a n900 ?01:35
DocScrutinizeryoh, 201:35
HyperSnyperany words of wisdom to share before i buy ?01:35
DocScrutinizerand two n810, and a n95001:36
HyperSnypergoing to be spending about £150 on arefurb one01:36
HyperSnyperalready got debian server, debian NAS, and tuxbox based sat reciever01:36
DocScrutinizerwatch out for the USB receptacle01:36
HyperSnyperso ok with nix01:36
HyperSnyperorly ?01:36
DocScrutinizerN900's achilles heel01:37
DocScrutinizertry to make sure it's not been overclocked01:38
HyperSnyperyeh that's the only thing im concerned about01:38
HyperSnyperno way i'd know though really is there ?01:38
DocScrutinizerbut I wonder how to do that, so maybe just try to get a good warranty01:38
HyperSnyperonly new ones i can find are £350+01:38
DocScrutinizerdang01:39
DocScrutinizerare they already starting to go up?01:39
HyperSnyperto be honest i've not really done alota searching outside of uk stores01:39
DocScrutinizerI guess quite a number of potential N900 owners now made up their mind and quit waiting for N9, when it became more and more clear N9 isn't a successor for N90001:41
nox-DocScrutinizer, amazon now has n900 for 600+ when it had them for 350 or so a while ago01:42
NIN101prices are yo-yo on amazon.01:43
nox-i can imagine01:44
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HyperSnyperDocScrutinizer, do these battery test seem about right to you > http://www.ukmobilereview.com/2009/12/nokia-n900-battery-test-results/02:01
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DocScrutinizernah, I get better results02:04
HyperSnyperif i got second battery is it an easy swap ?02:05
DocScrutinizersomething like 20s02:05
DocScrutinizer+ bootup02:05
HyperSnyper32GB microsd + battery added to list02:06
HyperSnyperheh02:06
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DocScrutinizer~n900-power is http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Power_Consumption02:07
infobotokay, DocScrutinizer02:07
DocScrutinizerHyperSnyper: ^^^02:08
HyperSnyperthxs02:08
HyperSnyperone other question02:08
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HyperSnypergot aload of media files mp3/xvid on a network share, not upnp though02:09
HyperSnyperany experience with playback over network ?02:09
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HyperSnypershared via samba from debian NAS02:10
DocScrutinizershould just work I think02:10
DocScrutinizerhttp://maemo.org/packages/02:11
DocScrutinizerhttp://maemo.org/packages/search/?org_maemo_packages_search[1][property]=name&org_maemo_packages_search[1][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[1][value]=samba&org_maemo_packages_search[2][property]=title&org_maemo_packages_search[2][constraint]=LIKE&org_maemo_packages_search[2][value]=same02:11
HyperSnypertrue true could just use samba on phone aswell :D02:12
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DocScrutinizer~botsnack02:57
infobotthanks, DocScrutinizer02:57
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jargon-how do i update my n900 to the latest version?03:37
SpeedEvilWhat version are you on att he moment?03:39
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jargon-hmm how can i tell?03:41
DocScrutinizersettings about03:42
SpeedEvilsettings, scroll to the bottom, hit about product03:42
jargon-oh wait. it says here maemo 5 20.2010.36-203:42
SpeedEvilversion 20.2010 is current03:42
SpeedEvilcurrent03:43
jargon-is that the community ssu? i was told to upgrade to the community ssu03:43
DocScrutinizer~cssu03:43
infobothmm... cssu is http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU03:43
SpeedEvilTold by who?03:44
jargon-by someone trying to help with my conversation-yim connection issue. i can't get my yim account to connect. gtalk works fine and i can connect to yim in pidgin03:46
jargon-but not in Conversation03:47
SpeedEvilWell - yes - read that - it's possible it may help03:48
SpeedEvilSome bugs have been fixed in cssu03:48
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jargon-so i do need to upgrade?03:49
SpeedEvilI don't know. There are some issues fixed by cssu03:50
SpeedEvilI do not know if this is one o them03:50
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Macerwow06:43
Macerhe is getting serious about it06:43
Macerhttps://picasaweb.google.com/107020777578949615250/Random#565576577215098525006:43
MacerLOL06:43
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Macerwish i had that sort of shit in my house :)06:43
SpeedEvilDecapping a IC?06:47
Macer?06:47
Macerhe is trying to figure out the best way to get a new usb port on there06:47
Macerhe said the one i got from digikey is too tall by 1mm06:48
Macerand he is going to order the "right" one on monday06:48
SpeedEvilah06:49
Macerhe said the design sucks heehehe06:50
Macernokia fail06:50
Macerthere is 0 extra space for it06:50
Macerhe was going to use solder paste on the pads and use hot air06:51
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jogawhy does n900 sometimes reboot instead of turning off when I choose "switch off"?11:22
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jogathe UI was lagging for some seconds after unlocking it so I thought I'd reboot it since it helps with that (for a couple of days at least ;)), but when I switched it off, it booted and showed the dim nokia logo and then after a while showed the dots and the keycode prompt11:24
jogain this case it didn't matter but I just feel a bit uneasy about the inconsistency11:25
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joga(and was wondering if the UI thing had something to do with it)11:25
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ShadowJKit will automatically reboot if it hangs for too long11:28
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markinfohi. Is someone using Facebook account in Contacts? It is not possible to go online for me...11:41
markinfomaemo511:41
Sicelotry jabber ... chat.facebook.com11:42
* Sicelo doesn't have facebook account to test11:43
jogaShadowJK, ok, that makes sense then11:46
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ShadowJKSomeone said facebook changed stuff11:47
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markinfoShadow: "changed stuff" ? Will be Contacts also changed?12:35
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Sicelono. it was just a few details on login. jabber should be ok12:47
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infobotextra, extra, read all about it, pwned is like owned, but better.16:23
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jargon-does anyone know how to fix the sign-in issue for yahoo on n900 in Conversations with the pidgin protocols installed? signing into yahoo doesn't work21:04
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jargon-found the fix: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=970716&postcount=1821:39
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jurop88hi all22:31
jurop88anybody hanging outthere who knows sysparts/cgroups?22:31
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jurop88@javispedro:congrats for your post about aegis on N9/95022:42
javispedrohah22:43
jurop88I am currently dealing for other 2 spare N90022:45
jurop88:D22:45
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jacekowskijavispedro: link?23:10
javispedrojacekowski: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=457523:10
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jacekowskii think i'll stay with my n8 then23:14
jacekowskiand try to hack this23:15
RST38hOMG you brought djszapi guy out of whatever hole he has been hibernating in!23:15
RST38hjavispedro: you are screwed now.23:17
javispedroRST38h: mostly23:17
RST38hjavispedro: he won't let go. will have to shoot him or something.23:17
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merlin1991javispedro: I've seen dmesg and find mentioned on in the thread already, how much more of the usual "power commands" i use daily on my n900 are affected in general?23:25
merlin1991"power commands" as in above windoze level ;)23:25
javispedroyou tell me23:25
javispedroI've been thinking about making a list with what aegis stock config forbids23:25
javispedroeverything kernel related: dmesg, all mounts, inserting modules, nfs, cifs, ntp, rdate, ..23:26
NIN102aebis will forbit making that list :-)23:26
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ShadowJKvpn23:31
ShadowJKprobably also forbids all bluetooth profiles not supported by the OS.. keyboards, mice.. bluetooth tethering (maybe N9 as modem would be allowed but not other way around), etc23:33
merlin1991so in other words, if I want to use the n9 like the n900 I have to flash meegoCE?23:34
ShadowJKyes23:34
ShadowJKif you need a smartphone you're better off staying with N900 ;-)23:35
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javispedrofor the time being, that is..23:36
merlin1991thb even if harmattan is that much pita I'd still get it just for the sake of a proper meegoCE kernel that lets me do what I want todo23:37
ShadowJKthough harmattan os probably wont run on meegoce kernel?23:38
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javispedroif we were able to run it on a kernel that only differs in a single byte, the problem would be gone23:40
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merlin1991actually about that, there's a lot of "custom kernel" talk on the thread but as far as I've read it it's still impossible to actually run your own kernel23:40
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DocScrutinizermerlin1991: yeah23:45
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DocScrutinizerand some incompetent idiotic management at Nokia thinks this is the way things should be, so unless the engineers find a way (and we all are smart on how we communicate about it) this won't probably ever change23:46
DocScrutinizerrsp won't last for >2..4 weeks23:47
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merlin1991invoking the legalese is virtually a call to us to grab the torches and pitchforks.  and next post already brings the torches23:49
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corecodeo hi23:56
corecodeanybody have problems with xmpp voice connections?23:56
corecodeit suddenly stopped working for me23:56
corecodeother side can hear me, but i don't hear anything23:57
corecodeand it keeps saying "connecting", occasionally showing a "connected 0:15..." or so, but then it switches back to connecting23:58

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