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| x29a | anybody can lead me through the power kernel/bleeding edge wlan driver mess? | 00:48 |
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| x29a | whats the most current/stable way to go about this? is powerkernel47+bleeding edge ok? anything to pay attention when doing a kernel update? | 00:48 |
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| sneakyc4 | Nite everyone | 00:56 |
| sneakyc4 | any clue where can I find dbus-arch-deps.h in maemo 5 sdk? | 00:56 |
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| merlin1991 | x29a: I'm personally still with the power46 bleeding edge kernel | 01:00 |
| merlin1991 | didn't find anything in power47 worth upgrading | 01:00 |
| x29a | uh, newest version i installed via apt-get is power48 | 01:01 |
| x29a | merlin1991: are you using the advanced wl1251 driver from dave? | 01:02 |
| * luke-jr needs to get his own kernel working again | 01:04 | |
| luke-jr | power kernel likes to crap out -.- | 01:04 |
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| merlin1991 | x29a: yes | 01:05 |
| Atarii | x29a I'm on PK48 and wl1251 wifi drivers, works fine | 01:05 |
| x29a | Atarii: the advanced ones, right? | 01:05 |
| Atarii | yes bleeding edge | 01:05 |
| merlin1991 | I'm still on the pk46 from the driver pack from dave | 01:05 |
| x29a | im most intrested in monitoring mode | 01:05 |
| x29a | merlin1991: ah, like proposed in the readme | 01:05 |
| Atarii | x29a monitor mode/inject is all fine | 01:05 |
| x29a | Atarii: how is power consumption? any noticable difference? | 01:06 |
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| x29a | stable performance i assume (no reboots on ad-hoc connect and such?) | 01:06 |
| Atarii | power consumption is dire when keeping the bleeding edge drivers loaded | 01:06 |
| merlin1991 | I didn't try ad hoc tbh | 01:06 |
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| x29a | luke-jr: can you elaborate on "crap out"? | 01:06 |
| merlin1991 | but no reandom reboots | 01:06 |
| Atarii | so I use the applet to disable as much as possible | 01:06 |
| x29a | Atarii: the module in general or monitoring mode? | 01:06 |
| luke-jr | x29a: if I try to use Mobile HotSpot, it reboots; if I leave it running for days on end, it stops accepting TCP connections | 01:07 |
| x29a | i kind of dont want to be switching back and forth | 01:07 |
| Atarii | I disable the drivers as much as possible | 01:07 |
| x29a | luke-jr: which version are you on? | 01:07 |
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| x29a | merlin1991: but you dont disable the driver, right? | 01:07 |
| luke-jr | power42 | 01:08 |
| luke-jr | $ ssh root@sanji | 01:08 |
| luke-jr | ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host | 01:08 |
| x29a | thats, like, ancient? | 01:08 |
| x29a | ;) | 01:08 |
| luke-jr | x29a: latest according to maemo | 01:09 |
| x29a | in extras? | 01:09 |
| x29a | im on devel/testing | 01:09 |
| x29a | but i dont like the unloading part | 01:09 |
| x29a | downgrading powerkernel, no problem? | 01:09 |
| x29a | Versions: | 01:10 |
| x29a | 1:2.6.28-10power48 | 01:10 |
| x29a | from devel | 01:10 |
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| merlin1991 | x29a: actually I disable it by accident, because I always forget to reload it when I reboot | 01:12 |
| x29a | what do you guys use the advanced wlandriver for? any intresting stuff going on, or just wanting to be on a current version? | 01:12 |
| Atarii | x29a this applet is really handy: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73682 | 01:13 |
| Atarii | I use it as a portable pen testing device | 01:13 |
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| kerio | yeah, me too, i usually try to write on the back cover | 01:14 |
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| Atarii | ;p | 01:14 |
| x29a | Atarii: thanks, im mostly remote on the n900 though | 01:17 |
| Atarii | ah ok, that would make it harder, unless you used something like SMScon to enable/disable | 01:18 |
| Atarii | x29a you using it for anything interesting? | 01:20 |
| x29a | im thinking about just using the load.sh to enable it, maybe automatically on boot, dunno | 01:20 |
| x29a | Atarii: im trying to do some wlan localisation ;) | 01:20 |
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| Atarii | x29a I had problems with the load.sh, not sure why | 01:24 |
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| xkr47 | hello | 09:11 |
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| xkr47 | if backup&restore fails to import my old sms:es, could I just copy-paste the ~/.rtcom-eventloggers/ subdirectory and that'd be it ? | 09:12 |
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| chem|st | xkr47: usualy yes but never tried that, with backup&restore you mean the "is-shipped-with" backup program? | 09:46 |
| xkr47 | yes | 09:46 |
| xkr47 | it just gives unknown error, tried several times | 09:47 |
| xkr47 | I wonder if there is some non-standard communications app that is not installed in the target device, and the restore fails to handle that situation properly | 09:47 |
| xkr47 | but I'm just guessing wildly because I don't know | 09:47 |
| xkr47 | I'm now reading http://wiki.maemo.org/Manual_backup_and_restore to see if I could understand things a bit better, or manually restore stuff | 09:48 |
| xkr47 | are there other files related to sms:es than the rtcom-eventloggers tree ? | 09:49 |
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| chem|st | honestly I don't know! | 09:51 |
| chem|st | BUT | 09:51 |
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| chem|st | I had a similar problem and afair it fixed itself by installing the other things to the device | 09:51 |
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| xkr47 | ok thx | 09:55 |
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| xkr47 | there was some python-gobject package that couldn't be restored as part of restore process, and several apps depended on that | 09:55 |
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| chem|st | afaik there is no python IM I use... | 09:56 |
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| xkr47 | I have "witter" | 10:01 |
| xkr47 | maybe I could uninstall it in the source device and make a new backup also | 10:01 |
| xkr47 | hmm, apt-get install python-gobject says it's already installed | 10:01 |
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| chem|st | xkr47: you flashed? | 10:04 |
| xkr47 | I have two n900:s | 10:05 |
| xkr47 | and I need to give my old one away | 10:05 |
| chem|st | ah | 10:05 |
| chem|st | got to run! | 10:05 |
| xkr47 | but now, it seems these python-gobject apps are installing fine | 10:05 |
| xkr47 | thx cu | 10:05 |
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| chem|st | wrong alert, was just the postboy | 10:07 |
| chem|st | what I do is: fresh flashed device, recover backup, fire up HAM with only standard repos install from backuprestore function, activate one repo at a time to install the more from extras or e-testing to not have all things pulled in from e-devel (aka b-devil) | 10:09 |
| chem|st | and everything works fine apart from my contacts usualy messed up | 10:09 |
| chem|st | and I do nothing before that realy nothing ahead | 10:10 |
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| khertan | Morning | 10:50 |
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| neal | What's the right way to "top" an application in Maemo 5? | 10:55 |
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| khertan | top ? | 10:57 |
| khertan | increase priority ? | 10:57 |
| khertan | man nice | 10:57 |
| neal | khertan: I mean something like "osso_application_top" | 10:58 |
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| neal | https://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/libosso/blobs/bb8f89019ada172fbbdf949aa9a13491c0281b14/src/osso-application-top.c | 10:58 |
| neal | khertan: Basically, I know an application is running and is "minimized" and I want it to "get the focus" | 10:59 |
| khertan | neal: use the raise() method of QtMainWindows | 11:03 |
| neal | khertan: I'll take a look, thanks | 11:04 |
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| eichi | pyMaemo seems to be nice for developing applications | 13:07 |
| eichi | and the best thing ist, I can develop on the device itself ;) I like that | 13:07 |
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| Evanescence | how to format N900 card, my card does not support. | 14:06 |
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| andre__ | Evanescence, can you elaborate? | 14:15 |
| BCMM | Evanescence: are you talking about the filesystem on a microSD? | 14:15 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: yes, some problem aout superblock | 14:16 |
| BCMM | slightly vague problem there... | 14:16 |
| BCMM | what filesystem is currently on the card? | 14:16 |
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| Evanescence | BCMM: I have tried to format with FAT32 ext3 ext4, none of them can work | 14:17 |
| BCMM | what error do you get? | 14:17 |
| BCMM | (also, i somewhat doubt that there is ext4 support in the stock kernel) | 14:17 |
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| Evanescence | BCMM: anyway, I want to know to detail steps of formatting a MicroSD crad. | 14:18 |
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| BCMM | Evanescence: i would just do mkfs.vfat /dev/sdX | 14:19 |
| BCMM | or you could even format it from the device itself | 14:19 |
| BCMM | i don't own any uSD cards, so I don't know what the /dev/ node is for it | 14:19 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: like mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd ? or /dev/sdd1 ? | 14:20 |
| BCMM | depends if you want a full-card FS or to partition it | 14:20 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: I see, | 14:20 |
| BCMM | i believe non-partitioned is normal | 14:20 |
| BCMM | Evanescence: on a linux desktop, mkfs.vfat /dev/sdd should do it | 14:22 |
| BCMM | Evanescence: of course, check that /dev/sdd is your SD card and not your hard drive | 14:22 |
| BCMM | on the n900, i'm afraid I don't know where the SD card is - does /dev/mmc1 exist? | 14:22 |
| ruskie | mmcblk1 iirc | 14:22 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: yes, I am formatting, then check after plug it back on N900 | 14:23 |
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| Evanescence | BCMM: not support still | 14:27 |
| BCMM | Evanescence: anything in dmesg? | 14:27 |
| BCMM | also, were you able to mount the card on another machine? | 14:27 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: I can mount on my linux | 14:27 |
| BCMM | ok. what do you see in dmesg when you put the card in? | 14:27 |
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| Evanescence | BCMM: no message about card | 14:31 |
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| BCMM | Evanescence: do you have a /dev/mmcblk1 device? | 14:31 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: yes | 14:31 |
| BCMM | Evanescence: odd. sure it /dev/mmcblk1 and not just /dev/mmcblk0? | 14:31 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: two are under /dev | 14:31 |
| BCMM | just to confirm, you have tried putting the back cover back on the phone, right? it doesn't mount the filesystem until you close the case. | 14:31 |
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| Evanescence | BCMM: I shoutdown Maemo, get out card, format on computer linux, then plug on card, start system. | 14:32 |
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| BCMM | yes, but did you close the case? | 14:33 |
| BCMM | iirc, you do not need to shut down the n900. it automatically unmounts the SD when you take the back cover off, and mounts it again when you close the cover | 14:33 |
| BCMM | (i don't know what it does if the device is busy when you open the back) | 14:33 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: what case ? | 14:33 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: no, I have not open anything | 14:34 |
| BCMM | the black plastic shell of the n900 | 14:34 |
| BCMM | the n900 is able to detect whether the back panel (the bit with the lens cover and kickstand on it) is attached or not | 14:34 |
| Evanescence | I understand now | 14:35 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: just mmc0: cover is open and slid is open, no card info on dmesg | 14:37 |
| BCMM | what is "slid"? | 14:37 |
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| Evanescence | BCMM: sorry, slide | 14:38 |
| BCMM | so there is no /dev/mmcblk1 device? | 14:38 |
| Evanescence | now card is not available | 14:38 |
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| Evanescence | yes | 14:38 |
| BCMM | are you sure the card holder is closed properly? | 14:42 |
| Evanescence | BCMM: yes, checked | 14:42 |
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| jiero | hi, guys, is there a way to fix Google Talk/XMPP video call? | 15:20 |
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| VonDurden | is maemo better than symbian? | 15:36 |
| RST38h | No. Maemo is Linux and Linux is crap. | 15:36 |
| obcecado | oh really ? | 15:37 |
| jiero | nvm, I never used Symbian before, N900 is my first phone. | 15:37 |
| VonDurden | i wondered about maeom because its linux | 15:37 |
| VonDurden | and iw as wondering can i compile stuff and run linux programs from maeom | 15:37 |
| Gh0sty | RST38h: troll :P | 15:38 |
| RST38h | You can, that is why it is worse than Symbian! | 15:38 |
| RST38h | everyone can compile crap on it | 15:38 |
| VonDurden | so why is it worse? | 15:38 |
| VonDurden | what do you mean | 15:38 |
| RST38h | unsafe, unlike Symbian where your assets are firmly protected | 15:38 |
| jiero | RST38h: right, and run python program directly on N900 | 15:38 |
| Gh0sty | /!\ DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS /!\ | 15:39 |
| maybeHere | so uhm... i kinda killed my n900 by mistaking it for a stress relief ball | 15:39 |
| VonDurden | but does shit like wine run on your n900 too? | 15:39 |
| Gh0sty | wait what? | 15:39 |
| Gh0sty | wine? | 15:39 |
| Gh0sty | why? | 15:39 |
| Gh0sty | you want to run windows games on n900? :p | 15:39 |
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| VonDurden | no just curious | 15:39 |
| VonDurden | about the processor | 15:40 |
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| maybeHere | wine won't run on anything that isn't x86 iirc | 15:40 |
| Gh0sty | you first need to run qemu :p | 15:40 |
| Gh0sty | to virtualise a x86 | 15:40 |
| SpeedEvil | And wine + qemu may be slow. | 15:40 |
| VonDurden | aaa | 15:40 |
| Gh0sty | should be evil | 15:41 |
| maybeHere | wasn't there that java x86 emulator thingy | 15:41 |
| Gh0sty | running qemu with win 98 on n900 :p | 15:41 |
| maybeHere | (you'd need a java runtime first though) | 15:41 |
| VonDurden | for the of the n900: can you see movies in your phone from an external hard drive unlikr in symbian? | 15:42 |
| jiero | anybody help me to video call on gtalk"? | 15:43 |
| jiero | or XMPP? | 15:43 |
| maybeHere | any idea if i should even bother contacting nokia if i crushed the display of my n900...? | 15:43 |
| BCMM | maybeHere: wine can be used with user-mode processor emulation (qemu). slow, but works | 15:43 |
| BCMM | (as opposed to emulating an entire windows OS) | 15:43 |
| SpeedEvil | maybeHere: you can still get spare parts - adn I understand nokia can do repairs - as long as they don't require to swap the moterboard. | 15:45 |
| VonDurden | i have an external usb hard drive, if i wanna see a movie in my symbian i have to use my laptop to move the movie into my phone, can the n900 maemo directly be connected to the hard drive? | 15:45 |
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| SpeedEvil | Sort-of. | 15:47 |
| SpeedEvil | It can't power it, so you will need a cable with a power adaptor. | 15:47 |
| SpeedEvil | Perhaps a powered hub | 15:47 |
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| SpeedEvil | And the appropriate cable | 15:47 |
| VonDurden | so if the hd has the power cable itself it should work with no problems? | 15:48 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes | 15:49 |
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| SpeedEvil | With the hostmode things. | 15:49 |
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| maybeHere | SpeedEvil: ah, nice. guess i'll at least let them give me a quote on the repairs before switching to the dark side of the force :/ | 15:52 |
| jiero | any Idea of video call on N900 except Skype? | 15:53 |
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| scoobertron | Does anyone know where I can find the sound files for the default alarm function? | 16:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jiero: SIP | 17:41 |
| jiero | DocScrutinizer: OK. I don't know how to configure it though. | 17:42 |
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| slonopotamus_ | nice, n900 kiler: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/graphs/impact | 19:04 |
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| RST38h | slono: ? | 19:05 |
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| slonopotamus | RST38h: open it with n900 :) | 19:05 |
| RST38h | ah, it actually killed a desktop Firefox on Win7 | 19:06 |
| slonopotamus | mwahaha | 19:06 |
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| slonopotamus | n900 reboots :) | 19:06 |
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| obcecado | well i cannot run the script on that page, on any hw i have near me | 19:10 |
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| hiemanshu | its running for me, I think | 19:13 |
| hiemanshu | nope | 19:13 |
| hiemanshu | lol, that page is stuck | 19:13 |
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| slonopotamus | btw, that's weird that a single misbehaving page leads to such destroy | 19:15 |
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| ErwinJunge | chromium on ubuntu 10.10 reports unresponsiveness neatly. No crashing of any kind :) | 19:22 |
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| hiemanshu | yeah, no crashing here either, one thing about chromium, seperate processes for each tab :) | 19:25 |
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| newbie007 | hi, is it possible or can someone direct me to installing hildon-desktop on to a intel pc? | 19:48 |
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| kevin_b | newbie, hildon as far as I know, is a arm desktop | 20:10 |
| kevin_b | I guess you have to use Scratchbox | 20:10 |
| kevin_b | for executing it on your x86 makina | 20:10 |
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| xnt14 | Why doesn't mobilehotspot ever work? it just caused my N900 to kernel panic... | 20:37 |
| hiemanshu | works for me | 20:41 |
| xnt14 | kernel-power 48 just screwed up rtcomm... getting the same sms multiple times. ugh... | 20:42 |
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| an0therb0x | is ther a method to migrate messages/conversations to an android device ? | 20:51 |
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| newbie007 | kevin_b: thanks I'll check into that. What is makina ? | 21:07 |
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| newbie007 | actually I think hildon does exist for intel / amd there is a gnome website for it.. | 21:12 |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile: private-enterprise prisons have recognized that providing inmates with cable television can be a more economical method to keep them quiet and subdued than it would be to hire more guards | 21:34 |
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| x29a | RST38h: television, the new opium for the people | 21:57 |
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| RST38h | A new operating system called Cosmo has been developed, written entirely in C#. | 22:18 |
| RST38h | (so, where do they get CLR from???) | 22:18 |
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| newbie007 | an OS in C# is going to be crap slow | 23:14 |
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| newbie007 | in theroy perhaps useful for learning | 23:14 |
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| vi__ | so i called nokia about my n8 replacment | 23:34 |
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| vi__ | except they forgot to take away the n8 | 23:34 |
| vi__ | now i have both | 23:34 |
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| vi__ | damn the e7 looks hot | 23:34 |
| vi__ | if only it had a real OS innit | 23:35 |
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| hiemanshu | lol | 23:36 |
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