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| ErwinJunge | Is there a way to turn of cpu scaling on N900? I'm trying to profile some stuff and would like to remove outside influences. | 00:58 |
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| SpeedEvil | yes | 00:59 |
| ErwinJunge | Care to elaborate? :) | 01:00 |
| SpeedEvil | find /sys -name "min_freq*" | 01:00 |
| SpeedEvil | echo 600 to that, and it won'd throttle back ever | 01:00 |
| SpeedEvil | However, I'd recommend setting max to 500, and min to 500 | 01:00 |
| ErwinJunge | Nokia-N900:~# find /sys -name "min_freq*" | 01:01 |
| ErwinJunge | Nokia-N900:~# find /sys -name "*min_freq*" | 01:01 |
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| ErwinJunge | /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq | 01:01 |
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| SpeedEvil | yeah | 01:01 |
| SpeedEvil | that | 01:01 |
| ErwinJunge | or /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq | 01:02 |
| ErwinJunge | Why the 500? | 01:02 |
| ErwinJunge | And just to be sure: This resets on a reboot? | 01:02 |
| SpeedEvil | scaling I think | 01:02 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 01:02 |
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| ErwinJunge | And why the 500? | 01:05 |
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| MohammadAG | ErwinJunge, http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/thewarningtm.jpeg | 01:20 |
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| ErwinJunge | The benchmark lasts for about 5 minutes. How long does it normally stay at 600MHz? | 01:21 |
| ShadowJK | on demand | 01:22 |
| chem|st | several 100ms or if something is stuck 10sec sometimes | 01:23 |
| chem|st | on gaming minutes-hours... | 01:23 |
| MohammadAG | yay, stringing the harmattan facebook binary gives me their API key and secret key | 01:24 |
| MohammadAG | gives me ideas for sociality | 01:25 |
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| ShadowJK | you need keys to interface with facebook? | 01:26 |
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| MohammadAG | ShadowJK, yes, facebook's API | 01:29 |
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| peterbjornx | is there any way to get proper keymap in the framebuffer console | 02:04 |
| peterbjornx | including the "alt" key | 02:05 |
| peterbjornx | the one that makes it possible to use numbers and symbols | 02:05 |
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| peterbjornx | HELLO | 02:19 |
| peterbjornx | anyone here | 02:19 |
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| NIN101 | peterbjornx | 02:26 |
| NIN101 | yes it is possible | 02:26 |
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| NIN101 | peterbjornx: basically you need "loadkmap" from busybox | 02:29 |
| NIN101 | and this keymap: http://nin101.uni.cx/nokia-n900.kmap | 02:29 |
| m4rku5|camp | anyone got an idea why I am unable to make SIP voice calls with my N900? | 02:29 |
| NIN101 | load it with loadkmap < [path to the keymap] , and thats it. | 02:29 |
| NIN101 | peterbjornx: if you don't want to install busybox-enhanced, you can simply compile this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~pali/+junk/maemo_recovery-boot/view/head:/loadkmap.c | 02:31 |
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| TimmyT | is vanilla image available for download from another source? not nokia | 03:47 |
| TimmyT | cause it is too slow here | 03:48 |
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| antman8969 | anyone have any ideas for an app icon that has to do with wallpapers!? I'm blanking.. | 03:59 |
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| infobot | ~pong | 05:22 |
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| SpeedEvil | Though not automatically this time | 05:34 |
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| gotten1 | lo all | 09:27 |
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| gotten1 | is it any stable ver of android for n900 atm? | 09:34 |
| gotten1 | i mean, version that works evrything,ive heard that are some pbolems with battery status, wifi,.. | 09:34 |
| TimmyT | no | 09:34 |
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| TimmyT | more information: #nitdroid | 09:35 |
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| gotten1 | noone is alive :D | 09:39 |
| gotten1 | i dont know, but my n900 mameo is slow | 09:39 |
| TimmyT | as far as i know nitdroid is slower | 09:40 |
| TimmyT | probably you have installed lots of applications and services | 09:40 |
| TimmyT | try to remove unnecessary services | 09:40 |
| gotten1 | i have only ecoach, wifi switcher and 3 others | 09:41 |
| gotten1 | but dont tell me thats because of that :) | 09:41 |
| TimmyT | reflash it once | 09:42 |
| TimmyT | are you familiar with linux? | 09:42 |
| gotten1 | yeah | 09:44 |
| TimmyT | open a terminal and watch cpu status when its idle, | 09:44 |
| gotten1 | ive got corky instaled | 09:45 |
| TimmyT | like not when media player is playing or any other application is open | 09:45 |
| gotten1 | its 6% | 09:45 |
| gotten1 | well between 5/10% | 09:45 |
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| gotten1 | at themomemnt | 09:45 |
| TimmyT | its ok | 09:45 |
| gotten1 | it kinda bothers me when u connect to internet and if u have mail for exchange(push mail) | 09:46 |
| gotten1 | it kinda freezes ur phone | 09:47 |
| gotten1 | while syncing | 09:47 |
| gotten1 | u dont see that at andorid or iphone | 09:47 |
| gotten1 | or when u turn off wifi, u have to wait for 2sec | 09:47 |
| gotten1 | then that yellow bar appears that wifi was turned off | 09:47 |
| TimmyT | i'd same problem on mine, just reflashed it once and its ok now | 09:48 |
| TimmyT | isn't this because of your theme | 09:48 |
| TimmyT | ? | 09:48 |
| TimmyT | did you try to change that and test it again? | 09:48 |
| TimmyT | that may be a little heavy | 09:48 |
| gotten1 | i have default theme | 09:49 |
| gotten1 | no bacground | 09:49 |
| gotten1 | background | 09:49 |
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| TimmyT | dunnu anymore, you can call for nokia services and ask them about this issue, or ask your question in the forum of the maemo | 09:50 |
| gotten1 | well thats why i was wondergin to swith to nitdroid | 09:51 |
| TimmyT | or if you like risking you may install power kernel and enable over clock | 09:51 |
| gotten1 | but if u are telling me thats slower.. | 09:51 |
| TimmyT | nitdroid is slower while it enables over clocking | 09:52 |
| TimmyT | if you think this slowness is kinda weird or unusual, probably you may want to call for nokia services | 09:53 |
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| TimmyT | gotten1: also you may visit nokia care in your area, they may help you | 09:55 |
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| gotten1 | well they will dont have any ideas | 09:56 |
| gotten1 | because im already call them | 09:56 |
| TimmyT | dunnu anymore, you may wait here or ask your question here: http://talk.maemo.org/ | 10:00 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/12/google_customer_notification_patent/ <-- hmm | 10:31 |
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| chem|st | SpeedEvil: not much left not on the list hmm | 11:01 |
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| chem|st | SpeedEvil: btw have you got one of the spare 950s? | 11:02 |
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| SpeedEvil | chem|st: I wouldn't call it spare. | 11:07 |
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| edheldil | Hi, I have a problem with PySide and stacked window. It contains some QToolButtons with icons. I hide the window, display some other stacked window and then show the first window again with different icons on buttons. But the rightmost button is only partially redrawn, it still contains part of the previous icon on its right side. Here is the screenshot, the bird is the previous content, the new content is the thin red-white str | 11:34 |
| edheldil | ip: http://www.eowyn.cz/redraw.png | 11:34 |
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| lupine_85 | mwahahahahahaaaaaa, Nokia are now looking for an N900 for me | 12:20 |
| lupine_85 | be firm, don't accept an E7 as a replacement | 12:20 |
| lupine_85 | *definitely* don't accept an N8 | 12:20 |
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| Guest56024 | Hi I have a quick question about the CSSU, can anybody help me? | 12:52 |
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| robbiethe1st | No? | 12:52 |
| Guest56024 | lol, will installing it make me loose the apps/files on my n900? | 12:53 |
| robbiethe1st | no | 12:53 |
| Guest56024 | sweet, anything else I should look out for? | 12:53 |
| robbiethe1st | Uh.... <shameless plug> Install backupmenu, make a backup just in case? </shameless plug> | 12:56 |
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| chem|st | SpeedEvil: I meant one of the 50 additionals... but ok, so you got one | 12:57 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: opinion? | 12:57 |
| Guest56024 | thanks robbie i will install backupmenu now | 12:58 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: what does the contract with nokia inlcude? | 12:58 |
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| Guest56024 | oh, would the CSSU effect my existing nitdroid instilation? | 12:58 |
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| robbiethe1st | Probably not | 12:59 |
| SpeedEvil | chem|st: don't be nasty to nokia, if you lose it, you fork over 500e | 12:59 |
| ErwinJunge | "Don't be nasty to Nokia"? Does that include Elop? ;) | 13:00 |
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| SpeedEvil | More accurately - don't complain about bugs in this pre-release device | 13:00 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: so you loose it you have to pay for it? sounds fair! | 13:01 |
| ErwinJunge | Will you have to return it after a set amount of time? | 13:02 |
| chem|st | and "don't complain about this early release" is also acceptable isn't it | 13:02 |
| jacekowski | SpeedEvil: i'll buy it for 501eur from you | 13:02 |
| chem|st | jacekowski: get in the queue! | 13:02 |
| jacekowski | SpeedEvil: i'll pay you more than chem|st is offering | 13:03 |
| chem|st | it is so stupid to not release both n9 and 950... | 13:03 |
| SpeedEvil | xkcd - the truth about app stores. | 13:03 |
| chem|st | SpeedEvil: 1 grant! so you can sell it to jacekowski for 1 grant +1 | 13:03 |
| robbiethe1st | So, erm... I have to ask. When I get my N950, can I post videos of it on youtube, or is that against the NDA I evidently signed? | 13:03 |
| chem|st | robbiethe1st: read the nda! | 13:03 |
| SpeedEvil | robbiethe1st: No, as long as you're not nasty about it | 13:04 |
| robbiethe1st | I don't have it handy, and can't find it anymore | 13:04 |
| ErwinJunge | Wait, you signed something without reading it? | 13:04 |
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| robbiethe1st | I read it weeks ago, back with the first group | 13:04 |
| robbiethe1st | and it may not have even been the right nda | 13:04 |
| chem|st | ErwinJunge: common... ask iphone users about it... | 13:04 |
| ErwinJunge | chem|st: About what? | 13:04 |
| chem|st | ErwinJunge: about signing something without reading | 13:05 |
| ErwinJunge | There I wouldn't be surprised. Here, I am :) | 13:05 |
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| ErwinJunge | Do you guys have to return it after some fixed amount of time btw? | 13:05 |
| chem|st | if someone got a spare iX device I will build a bomb or cruise missile with it... just because of the license agreement... | 13:06 |
| ErwinJunge | Or some sort of "when Nokia asks for it" clause? | 13:06 |
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| robbiethe1st | Do realise I may not have signed that NDA yet... | 13:09 |
| robbiethe1st | So I couldn't have read it | 13:09 |
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| ErwinJunge | SpeedEvil: Really interested in this --> Will you have to return the device at some specified time? | 13:15 |
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| SpeedEvil | It was not made clear in the NDA from what I recall | 13:17 |
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| ErwinJunge | Then how does the "500e if you lose it" thing work? | 13:18 |
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| Venemo | robbiethe1st, the NDA prohibits you from publicizing any deficiencies that are because of the prerelease nature of the hw/sw | 13:24 |
| Venemo | robbiethe1st, exception is the information that is already public at the time you publicize it | 13:24 |
| robbiethe1st | So, basically you can make videos, just not of anything bad. | 13:25 |
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| psycho_oreos | they must surely hate critics, its probably all in the best interest to get people's attention focused on N9 despite N950 will forever remain developer's device | 13:27 |
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| psycho_oreos | bottom line is, both N950 and N9 is crippled in their own ways. Apart from hardware/software defecits, N950 is a developer's only device, N9 won't be for sale in the US and UK (funnily enough) | 13:29 |
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| psycho_oreos | lcuk, ping | 13:42 |
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| peterbjornx | how much will the N9 cost | 13:50 |
| psycho_oreos | depends on how big of internal memory you want to buy | 13:51 |
| peterbjornx | 16 gig | 13:51 |
| peterbjornx | or 32 if thats possible | 13:51 |
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| peterbjornx | wait | 13:51 |
| peterbjornx | it aint coming to holland either | 13:51 |
| psycho_oreos | well 64GB afaik is the maximum, that was rumoured to be somewhere around $1000 mark | 13:52 |
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| peterbjornx | where the hell will it be sold | 13:52 |
| psycho_oreos | I've asked my cellular network provider here in .au and they say N9 will be available next month. So I'm assuming .au is one of them | 13:53 |
| jacekowski | pff | 13:53 |
| jacekowski | nobody will buy $1000 phone | 13:53 |
| jacekowski | more like $500 for 64G version | 13:53 |
| psycho_oreos | though gsmarena did post news on N9 won't be available in either US or UK. I'm surprised .nl is on that list as well | 13:53 |
| peterbjornx | well, i just hope some other company will start building phones running a real linux distro (not some linux based OS like android) | 13:54 |
| psycho_oreos | *shrugs* someone posted some site awhile ago (I think it was some British electronics mob) and their preorder price for 64GB was something like $999 but.. only time will tell :) | 13:54 |
| jacekowski | even iphone doesn't cost that much | 13:54 |
| psycho_oreos | there is openmoko fyi peterbjornx :) | 13:55 |
| hiemanshu | well it will be out in India, thats for sure | 13:55 |
| psycho_oreos | jacekowski, I'm sure its Nokia's intent to mock Meego openly, seeing who would be desperate to get the last of supposedly Nokia Meego device before Mango comes out or that `Sea Ray' | 13:55 |
| jacekowski | Mango? | 13:56 |
| jacekowski | sea ray? | 13:56 |
| jacekowski | wtf? | 13:56 |
| peterbjornx | will it be sold in germany | 13:56 |
| peterbjornx | mango == wp7sp1 iirc | 13:56 |
| psycho_oreos | Mango = WP7 code name. Sea Ray was supposedly rumoured to be Nokia's next device using the same hardware shell as N9 but running WP7 | 13:57 |
| robbiethe1st | i.e. WP7 RC1 | 13:57 |
| robbiethe1st | Maby by RC3 it'll be usable | 13:57 |
| peterbjornx | but | 13:57 |
| peterbjornx | does anyone have a list on where the n9 will be sold | 13:57 |
| ThreeM | nokia do all to make the n9 less succssesful | 13:58 |
| jacekowski | who would buy n9 in uk | 13:58 |
| jacekowski | country that's dominated by iphone | 13:58 |
| jacekowski | they would have to keep price lower and go for markets where iphone isn't so popular | 13:58 |
| ThreeM | looks loke: "oh shit, we have an asskicking device but a deal with ms, so lets kill the N9 befor it grows" | 13:58 |
| peterbjornx | why does the n900 still have rc*.d if it uses upstart | 13:58 |
| hiemanshu | compatibility? | 13:59 |
| jacekowski | ThreeM: N9 is not ass kicking device | 13:59 |
| peterbjornx | why would they not sell it in holland, country thats dominated by HTC and BB | 13:59 |
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| ThreeM | jacekowski but it looks good to me | 13:59 |
| peterbjornx | i'd buy it just cos it runs meego | 13:59 |
| hiemanshu | India is mostly all Nokia, now HTC and BB are coming up here | 13:59 |
| peterbjornx | but, cant we just wait for another good OMAP phone and port meego to it? | 14:00 |
| jacekowski | peterbjornx: time and effort | 14:00 |
| jacekowski | peterbjornx: and NDAs | 14:00 |
| peterbjornx | why NDA's | 14:00 |
| peterbjornx | i mean | 14:00 |
| ThreeM | all i want is an upgrade to N900. only mote pysikal ra mand a modern cpu... the rest is just perfekt ;) | 14:00 |
| jacekowski | peterbjornx: you can port meego to any android phone | 14:01 |
| peterbjornx | cant we wait until some phone based on a good TI OMAP SoC gets released | 14:01 |
| jacekowski | peterbjornx: if you spend enough time | 14:01 |
| peterbjornx | i know, but from what i understand itll be slow because of no GL drivers | 14:01 |
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| psycho_oreos | robbiethe1st, ping | 14:04 |
| robbiethe1st | pong | 14:04 |
| psycho_oreos | lol looks like USB console: /dev/ttyACM0 is no dice with stock kernel as well | 14:04 |
| peterbjornx | ? | 14:05 |
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| psycho_oreos | wait.. that's weird.. If one selects USB Console first before Connecting to USB network, USB console won't work. However if one Connects to USB network prior to starting USB console it works | 14:06 |
| peterbjornx | what debian release is most compatible with maemo5 | 14:07 |
| psycho_oreos | lol, /bin/bash not found with USB console. After attempting to kill screen and retrying, it goes back to empty terminal (square one with incorrect sequence of starting USB console). So one has to disconnect all and repeat the steps above | 14:09 |
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| peterbjornx | usb console? | 14:13 |
| psycho_oreos | peterbjornx, I'm playing with BackupMenu by robbiethe1st fyi :) | 14:13 |
| peterbjornx | o ok | 14:13 |
| peterbjornx | i had a little inconvenience with the preinit last night | 14:13 |
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| psycho_oreos | I think most people tend to work with /event.d rather than rc scripts imo | 14:14 |
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| psycho_oreos | err /etc/event.d | 14:14 |
| peterbjornx | i screwed it up and i built a framebuffer console kernel using my secondary preinit but i couldnt fix it cause of the broken keymap | 14:14 |
| peterbjornx | couldnt enter cp preinit_orig preinit | 14:15 |
| peterbjornx | cas | 14:15 |
| peterbjornx | *Cos | 14:15 |
| peterbjornx | i couldnt enter any symbols | 14:15 |
| NIN101 | peterbjornx: I told you everything yesterday about that :P | 14:15 |
| peterbjornx | so in the end i still had to reflash | 14:15 |
| peterbjornx | i was probably asleep then | 14:16 |
| peterbjornx | but | 14:16 |
| peterbjornx | i couldnt have done that either, i had no way of writing to the devices storage | 14:16 |
| NIN101 | yeah probably | 14:16 |
| peterbjornx | from pc | 14:16 |
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| RST38h | A patent filed by Jeff Bezos and Amazon VP Greg Heart suggests using a phone's accelerometer to detect when it is falling, and deploying tiny airbags to cushion the impact. | 14:17 |
| psycho_oreos | The way maemo 5 is designed, imo it is very limiting without Xorg even up. I think lots of things gets initialised somewhere in between Xorg loading and Xorg loaded | 14:17 |
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| psycho_oreos | and a good way to stop games like n900fly :p | 14:18 |
| kirma | an ultrasonic speaker and microphone should also be used to measure distance to the surface and hardness of it | 14:19 |
| psycho_oreos | actually it would stop a fair few other things as well with that rather un-innovative patent. Angry owners who slams their phone after heated conversation would be another prime case | 14:20 |
| RST38h | the phone will get delected and hit them on the head instead | 14:20 |
| kirma | I wouldn't see such a microcontroller-driven system that hard to implement | 14:20 |
| RST38h | deflected | 14:20 |
| psycho_oreos | no level of hardness can be guaranteed safe from obliterating the device if enough G force was exerted.. e.g. dropping the device from the roof of a high rise or slamming the device really really hard onto the ground below | 14:21 |
| kirma | well, accelerometer in addition to ultrasonic radar of course | 14:21 |
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| kirma | slamming the phone really really hard on a pillow! | 14:21 |
| psycho_oreos | no like onto a solid table or even ground. | 14:22 |
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| kirma | well, if the radar response is weak, it's more likely than not that the surface is soft | 14:22 |
| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/12/amazon_patent_jets/ | 14:22 |
| psycho_oreos | and that reminds me of a case where the girlfriend of a couple killed her partner with an ipod by smacking his head round with ipod. Her partner later died of internal bleeding, maybe this patent might save his life if it came in early :p not | 14:23 |
| kirma | both distance and reflection strength can be measured | 14:23 |
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| psycho_oreos | all as well adds extra weight/price/power consumption to the device | 14:24 |
| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/12/ms_mango/ <-- haha | 14:25 |
| kirma | well, the power consumption part is pretty feeble, both for required detection components as well as control logic | 14:25 |
| kirma | actual physical implementation of "airbags" or whatever is the most problematic part | 14:25 |
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| kirma | running a 10 Hz detect-drop accelerometer as first trigger is easy, and the radar part would also be quite feasible with what phones commonly have nowadays | 14:26 |
| psycho_oreos | I'm going to continue sounding like a skeptic, smartphones these days couldn't match their predecessors in terms of power saving. People these days use their smartphones from anything to everything, and with the power being chewed out like hell. It'll be a wonder if this little miracle `life-saver' even work when needed | 14:27 |
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| kirma | the other option is obviously to build more robust phone mechanics... | 14:28 |
| kirma | some morons build the phones out of glass in attempt to make replacement likely occurence | 14:28 |
| psycho_oreos | that's fashion for you :) | 14:28 |
| kirma | great design statement that one has to carry the phone in some sort of protective shield all the time | 14:29 |
| jacekowski | kirma: you don't | 14:29 |
| jacekowski | some people do | 14:29 |
| psycho_oreos | `oh, you have plastic phone, you're so cheap/outdated. Look at mah glass phone.' -_- | 14:29 |
| kirma | I've seen too many iphones with shattered back glass | 14:29 |
| psycho_oreos | ruskie, I wonder what sort of special features with Nokia's new WP7 devices as they've been bragging about a few weeks after sealing the deal with microsoft. Then again I really don't give a damn about Nokia, Flop obviously couldn't forsee his shortcomings on Ballmer's ulterior motives | 14:31 |
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| psycho_oreos | kirma, iphone 4? I recall `The Nokia Blog' had a video of dropping a Nokia phone to a solid ground from a standing height plus maybe a few more metres from ground vs iphone 4. You can easily predict which one is likely to break :) | 14:33 |
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| ThreeM | can the N900 use 32gb micro sdhc cards? | 15:55 |
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| psycho_oreos | yes | 15:56 |
| MohammadAG | yes | 15:56 |
| ThreeM | thx | 15:57 |
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| psycho_oreos | highly recommend that you have latest firmware on the device prior to inserting that microSDHC card | 15:58 |
| peterbjornx | guys, im having problems mounting a n900 rootfs in the sdk | 15:59 |
| peterbjornx | i have mounted it without problems, but i cannot access half the files on it | 15:59 |
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| peterbjornx | maemo@maemo-desktop:~$ ls /mnt/n900 | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/bin: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/dev: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/etc: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/mnt: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/opt: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/tmp: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/sys: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/var: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/usr: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/home: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ls: cannot access /mnt/n900/proc: Invalid argument | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | *info | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | on how to fix | 16:05 |
| RST38h | We have got it, peter | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ? | 16:05 |
| RST38h | You can stop now | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | then answer | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ... | 16:05 |
| RST38h | An I am not sure the local bot understands requests this elaborate | 16:05 |
| peterbjornx | ~ubi | 16:06 |
| peterbjornx | ~ubifs | 16:06 |
| infobot | well, ubifs is http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=403015&postcount=3 | 16:06 |
| peterbjornx | well i tried THAT and it didnt work | 16:07 |
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| edheldil | Anyone has an idea what could cause graphical artifacts with my PySide program on n900/Maemo using stacked windows? The screenshot and some short program showing similar artifacts is here: http://www.eowyn.cz/redraw.png, http://www.eowyn.cz/redraw.py | 16:46 |
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| massoud | Hi there | 16:52 |
| TimmyT | massoud: wat do you want? | 16:52 |
| TimmyT | :D | 16:53 |
| massoud | do you know if the dbus message on n900 for CallStatus are following the Q/931 standard ? | 16:53 |
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| massoud | like : [SIGNAL] com.nokia.csd.Call.Instance.CallStatus /com/nokia/csd/call/1 :1.21 | 16:53 |
| massoud | ( 10, 3, 16 ) | 16:53 |
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| massoud | when call hangs-up on the other side | 16:54 |
| TimmyT | i've removed the user, how cam i get a shell access to add a new user? | 16:54 |
| TimmyT | :D | 16:54 |
| TimmyT | err, how can i | 16:54 |
| massoud | does the (10, 3, 16) refers to the CallStatus of Q.931 events table ? | 16:54 |
| ErwinJunge | TimmyT: ssh? | 16:55 |
| massoud | or is there a proxy state-machine from nokia/maemo for this states ? | 16:55 |
| TimmyT | not ssh, cause it even doesn't boot | 16:55 |
| massoud | TimmyT: "sudo gainroot" on terminal ? | 16:55 |
| mgedmin | TimmyT, if it doesn't boot, I'm afraid you may have to reflash | 16:55 |
| ErwinJunge | reflash | 16:55 |
| ErwinJunge | Just out of interest: What prompted you to remove the user? :) | 16:56 |
| TimmyT | shit :D , you mean there is nothing to do to get a root shell access to the phone like single user mode or something? | 16:56 |
| massoud | uart interface somewhere on the pcb probably | 16:57 |
| TimmyT | ErwinJunge: i was interested to know wat will happen if i remove that | 16:57 |
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| ErwinJunge | TimmyT: Next time, just ask :) | 16:57 |
| TimmyT | doesn't matter, kuz i wanted to do that. | 16:58 |
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| ErwinJunge | Ok, well good luck on the reflash then :) | 17:00 |
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| TimmyT | ErwinJunge: it just needs FIACO or VANILLA is needed too? | 17:02 |
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| Triscar0 | is there a app that easy transfer my files over to my linux server at my house ? | 17:03 |
| ruskie | scp? | 17:04 |
| ErwinJunge | rsync | 17:04 |
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| ErwinJunge | rsync beats scp, or any other copying tool for that matter, by having resumability, error checking, and compression (maybe scp has the last 2 as well) | 17:05 |
| mgedmin | TimmyT, it should be enough to flash the rootfs | 17:05 |
| Triscar0 | thnx! | 17:05 |
| ErwinJunge | All in all, rsync is essentially always the best idea if you want to copy more than 1 file | 17:05 |
| ErwinJunge | Even locally | 17:05 |
| Triscar0 | hmm cant find it ? | 17:05 |
| ErwinJunge | Google? | 17:05 |
| ErwinJunge | rsync is just a general commandline linux tool | 17:06 |
| ErwinJunge | well, *nix to be more exact | 17:06 |
| Triscar0 | ahh i want for my nokia n900 sry :D | 17:06 |
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| ErwinJunge | n900 runs linux | 17:06 |
| ErwinJunge | Which is what makes it so awesome :) | 17:06 |
| Triscar0 | hehe yeah i know. but is it hard to manage ? | 17:06 |
| ErwinJunge | You can also run it in reverse, so run rsync on the server to get the data from your phone | 17:07 |
| ErwinJunge | I recommend you read the docs, but it's not very hard | 17:07 |
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| psycho_oreos | Triscar0, depends on how familiar you are with working on linux | 17:07 |
| mgedmin | scp or sshfs may be simpler | 17:07 |
| psycho_oreos | rather nothing is hard when one is patient :) | 17:07 |
| Triscar0 | not good, i need howto`s on everything i do almost:D | 17:07 |
| ErwinJunge | rsync -avz --progress <source> <dest> | 17:07 |
| mgedmin | and if the amount of data you're copying is small, there's little advantage of using rsync, imho | 17:07 |
| mgedmin | (besides, rsync is complicated) | 17:07 |
| ErwinJunge | rsync is not complicated. You can do complicated things with rsync, but for a simple copy, that above line is really all you need. | 17:08 |
| Triscar0 | an easy app then?:D | 17:08 |
| psycho_oreos | there is grsync for instance | 17:08 |
| ErwinJunge | It has cool features that let you filter stuff by all kinds of criteria. Those can get complicated. For what Triscar0 is describing, you want rsync. | 17:08 |
| mgedmin | Triscar0, do you have openssh-server installed on your n900? | 17:08 |
| Triscar0 | no not on this new one | 17:09 |
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| ErwinJunge | Oh, that is kind of a prerequisite for rsync | 17:09 |
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| psycho_oreos | not really | 17:09 |
| psycho_oreos | you can get away with rsyncd | 17:10 |
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| ErwinJunge | You'd lose all security features. Not good. | 17:10 |
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| Triscar0 | i cant find any ftp apps in when im looking for apps on my n900, feels like im missing some repository | 17:11 |
| ErwinJunge | But you want ssh on it anyways | 17:11 |
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| ErwinJunge | Is extras enabled? | 17:11 |
| mgedmin | ftp? who uses ftp in this day an age? | 17:12 |
| psycho_oreos | that's a sacrifice one has to bear should they choose to use rsyncd method after weighing up their case. Indeed, security would be bad but then with rsync over ssh isn't that much faster than cp over ssh or even scp imo :) | 17:12 |
| psycho_oreos | I still use ftp :) | 17:12 |
| Triscar0 | maemo extras testing is enabled yes | 17:12 |
| ErwinJunge | It's not faster, but safer. Error checking and resumability. Especially for large sets of files, those are essential. | 17:12 |
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| TimmyT | where are conversations and other application data saved? | 17:15 |
| ErwinJunge | Triscar0: Don't know about the ftp thing, but if you want to use that for transferring the files, I still suggest your take a little bit of time to do it in rsync. It really takes only about 5 minutes | 17:15 |
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| ErwinJunge | Start with the examples. Your simple use is probably in there as well. Then all you need to do is change the paths. | 17:16 |
| Triscar0 | ok | 17:16 |
| Triscar0 | can i upload the image folder to my server, and when i have taken some new pictures just upload the folder again and it will not upload files that is allready uploaded ? | 17:17 |
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| ErwinJunge | Yup | 17:18 |
| TimmyT | does anybody hear me? :D | 17:18 |
| psycho_oreos | it won't overwrite existing files based on timestamps or checksums | 17:18 |
| ErwinJunge | That's one of the amazing features of rsync | 17:18 |
| ErwinJunge | TimmyT: I'm assuming simply noone knows | 17:18 |
| mgedmin | TimmyT, somewhere deep under /home/user | 17:18 |
| psycho_oreos | TimmyT, coversations are somewhere in /home/user iirc.. other application data could vary alot.. in most cases in /opt | 17:18 |
| SpeedEvil | However FAT filesystems may be broken enough in terms of time that rsync based on time doesn't work properly | 17:19 |
| SpeedEvil | so you may have to tell it to ignore time, and do filesyze/sum only | 17:19 |
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| TimmyT | wat happens if i format /home partition? will reflashing fix it? | 17:21 |
| mgedmin | TimmyT, reflashing will fix it, yes | 17:22 |
| mgedmin | you may need to reflash the eMMC image this time | 17:22 |
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| ErwinJunge | TimmyT: You actually did that? | 17:23 |
| TimmyT | ErwinJunge: not yet, you said ask before doing anythin crazy like this :p | 17:24 |
| ErwinJunge | :) Good. Don't do it. :) | 17:24 |
| psycho_oreos | /opt shares the same partition as /home so yeah you do realise you may have loads of fun (if anything) getting those data back if you want to | 17:24 |
| Triscar0 | i bought a used n900 online, and installed fmms on it, and the photos was still there! i had a nice wife... NAKED!:D | 17:25 |
| ShadowJK | actually there's a rsync parameter to make it work on vfat :) | 17:25 |
| ShadowJK | --modify-time-window r something like that | 17:25 |
| Triscar0 | he* | 17:25 |
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| TimmyT | im asking this questions, kuz i've reflashed root and installed everything again, but i see that most of applications doesn't behave correctly, so i thought it may because their old data stored somewhere i don't know | 17:25 |
| Triscar0 | i bought a used n900 online, and installed fmms on it, and the photos was still there! he had a nice wife... NAKED!:D | 17:25 |
| TimmyT | i want to find them and remove them | 17:25 |
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| psycho_oreos | fiasco image won't touch anything in /home/user as well as /home/user/MyDocs iirc | 17:26 |
| mgedmin | TimmyT, best reflash both the rootfs and the eMMC, to get into a factory-clean state | 17:26 |
| psycho_oreos | and usually personal preferences with each program setting/customisation usually goes in /home/user | 17:26 |
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| psycho_oreos | Triscar0, lol, my second N900 that I bought (also second hand). At the time prior to purchase (and this was also at the shop that sold the device), both the shop assistant and myself were stumped in trying to figure out why virtual keyboard didn't work. I should have known better that they installed mscim | 17:28 |
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| psycho_oreos | Triscar0, LOL　actually you know if you dumped the partitions to image files and use file carving tools, you maybe able to recover other things. This also goes along the same thing with my case | 17:31 |
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| ErwinJunge | How do I check the available GL extensions on the N900? glxinfo complains --> extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" | 18:57 |
| javispedro | glGetString | 19:01 |
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| ErwinJunge | Hm... so I have to code a custom app to check the gl extensions? | 19:03 |
| ErwinJunge | Let me put this another way | 19:03 |
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| ErwinJunge | Does it support GL_IMG_texture_compression_pvrtc? | 19:03 |
| ErwinJunge | I want to use PVRTC in a game I'm porting, since that appears to be the bottleneck from benchmarking | 19:04 |
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| MoonTiger | hey guys | 19:06 |
| MoonTiger | i'm trying to download the n900 image to reflash but the web page is rejecting my 15 digit imei number | 19:07 |
| MoonTiger | what can i do? | 19:07 |
| MoonTiger | ok no worries | 19:07 |
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| peterbjornx | does anyone know how to extract/mount a rootfs image | 20:24 |
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| peterbjornx | the "guide"on the forum does not work for me | 20:24 |
| peterbjornx | it mounts but half the files/folders are inaccessible | 20:24 |
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| villager | ErwinJunge: here's what my CyborgEye program says: http://pastebin.com/AAk4VkEJ | 20:43 |
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| OkropNick | is there any software that can put N900 into "online" mode from "flight/offline" mode at certain hour? | 21:07 |
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| peterbjornx | well | 21:19 |
| peterbjornx | ma | 21:20 |
| peterbjornx | *nvm | 21:20 |
| peterbjornx | finally managed to properly mount the rootfs image ! | 21:20 |
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| thomasvs | anyone know why the browser in sbox is almost impossible to use for https:// ? | 22:07 |
| thomasvs | it simply almost never gets to render the page completely | 22:07 |
| thomasvs | a real pain if you're trying to implement oauth2 handling... | 22:08 |
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| ErwinJunge | villager: Thanks :) Care to share the CyborgEye program? | 22:31 |
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| villager | ErwinJunge: I never got around to actually making it do much useful | 22:37 |
| villager | ErwinJunge: well, it can use the camera and take pictures, and turn on the flash... but other apps can probably do those things better | 22:39 |
| villager | I was going to try to put in some augmented-reality-style overlays but never got that far | 22:42 |
| ErwinJunge | Ow, I thought it was an app to read system internals :) | 22:43 |
| villager | nah, I wrote it to see what kind of visual fx I could make | 22:44 |
| villager | and I wanted to make a hud like in terminator and robocop | 22:45 |
| ErwinJunge | Ok :) Well, I bookmarked the pastebin you made, so I'll have the info afterwards :) Thanks for posting. | 22:45 |
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| villager | hmm, I should perhaps have checked how many multitexture stages it can do | 22:59 |
| villager | oh well | 23:00 |
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| zash | So, if I seem to have this bug[1], except for GSM/3G, what do I do? 1: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5699 | 23:09 |
| povbot | Bug 5699: WLAN regulatory domain changes to US when no position data available | 23:09 |
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| zash | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9056 looks closer | 23:19 |
| povbot | Bug 9056: Telephone Calls (GSM) end abruptly with "connection problem" | 23:19 |
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| arvut | hi.. my camera-ui gets seg fault on start (operation failed when I open lensecover and seg fault when I type camera-ui.lauch in xterm) I installed fcamera but uninstalled it again and now the cam is like this. should I reflash? | 23:46 |
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