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| piggz | catching up on the 'meego coding competition' thread...it got interesting today :) | 00:08 |
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| antman8969 | heading over now! any judging start yet? | 00:14 |
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| antman8969 | last I heard the disqualified contestants were arguing | 00:15 |
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| vi__ | ~dict lame | 00:19 |
| infobot | Dictionary 'lame' (3 of 9): deprive of the use of a limb, especially a leg; "The accident has crippled her for life" ;; someone who doesn't understand what is going on ;; disabled in the feet or legs; "a crippled soldier"; "a game leg" . | 00:19 |
| vi__ | lol | 00:19 |
| vi__ | a 'game' leg | 00:19 |
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| vi__ | I think that should be a 'gammy' leg | 00:19 |
| vi__ | did you hear about the man with a gammy leg named smith? | 00:20 |
| * vi__ no, what did he call the other one? | 00:20 | |
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| vi__ | -_- il get my coat | 00:21 |
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| Dantonic | hey | 00:22 |
| Dantonic | kernel-power-flasher: PreDepends: kernel-power (= 2.6.28-maemo42) but 1:2.6.28-10power47 is to be installed | 00:22 |
| Dantonic | can't install the power kernel for some reason | 00:22 |
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| Dantonic | unmet dependencies | 00:23 |
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| ruskie | so nice having 0 usable navigation apps on the n900 | 00:27 |
| ruskie | to correct... offline navigation apps | 00:28 |
| NIN101 | ack | 00:28 |
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| GAN900 | http://www.humblebundle.com/ tick tick tick | 00:36 |
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| piggz | antman8969: yeah, there was some whining...seemed to involve abill_uk too, i dont think voting has started yet | 01:10 |
| antman8969 | drama can be fun... | 01:11 |
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| cehteh | ruskie: monav.openstreetmap.de | 01:29 |
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| opdf2 | yea!!!! | 03:20 |
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| Dantonic | can anyone help with a kernel-power issue after installing nitdroid? I seem to have lost kernel-power, and am not sure how to get it back | 03:29 |
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| Dantonic | when I try installing it from app manager I get missing dependancies | 03:29 |
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| Dantonic | i get application packages missing: kernel-power.... | 03:33 |
| Dantonic | but I can't find that package... where do I find it? | 03:33 |
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| pigeon | is the addressbook file on the n900 really encrypted? (~/.osso-abook/db/addressbook.db) | 05:54 |
| SpeedEvil | Fairly sure not | 05:54 |
| SpeedEvil | It's just sql | 05:54 |
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| pigeon | pretty much any sql command i do i get: Error: file is encrypted or is not a database | 05:55 |
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| pigeon | or i can't just open it with sqlite3? | 05:55 |
| SpeedEvil | ah- ok | 05:56 |
| SpeedEvil | not working here either | 05:56 |
| pigeon | oh wait | 05:56 |
| pigeon | file addressbook.db gives me: addressbook.db: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 8, native byte-order) | 05:56 |
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| pigeon | all those .db are not sqlite then... | 05:57 |
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| doc|home | ah nokia, such a nice idea gone so far wrong | 09:49 |
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| ErwinJunge | I'd like to use a more recent compiler (let's say the most recent codesourcery edition) with scratchbox to develop for the N900. I did some googling on the subject, but didn't really find any clear advice. Is this possible, or will I run into incompatibilities with Nokia-provided libs? | 11:13 |
| robbiethe1st | Why not just use the version of GCC that came with it? | 11:15 |
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| ErwinJunge | Because it doesn't vectorize some code properly, and apparently gcc 4.5 should be better at that. I'd like to test, but not really looking forward to hacking in something that will turn out non-functional anyway. | 11:16 |
| Tronic | I don't see why you couldn't even use clang (okay, I didn't check whether it supports the architecture) as long as you keep using the Nokia-provided version of libstdc++. | 11:16 |
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| Tronic | GCC usually ships a new version of libstdc++ and that could easily cause trouble. | 11:16 |
| Tronic | Even though the API has AFAIK been stable since GCC 3.4. | 11:17 |
| Tronic | *ABI | 11:17 |
| ErwinJunge | That's what I'd be expecting, lot's of trouble. Anyone here have experience with switching compilers? | 11:18 |
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| Macer | so is nokia going to sell n950s? | 11:24 |
| ErwinJunge | No | 11:24 |
| Macer | or are those of us interested screwed and stuck with an N9 as our only option? | 11:24 |
| Macer | lame | 11:24 |
| ErwinJunge | I'd say the N900 is the only option, since the N9 misses the very essential keyboard... | 11:24 |
| Macer | yeah | 11:25 |
| Macer | my n900 is still missing the very essential usb port that fell off | 11:25 |
| ErwinJunge | But hey, the N900 is still awesome :) I don't even want a new phone yet | 11:25 |
| Macer | going this weekend to get the new one soldered on | 11:25 |
| ErwinJunge | Ah, that sucks, makes charging a bit hard | 11:25 |
| Macer | sure does | 11:25 |
| Macer | and i want the port | 11:25 |
| ErwinJunge | I can understand that. I'm always really careful using the usb port because of all the stories about it breaking. | 11:26 |
| Macer | i dont have the awesome soldering skills to fix it myself so i figure i would pay someone to do it | 11:26 |
| Macer | best to open it now and enforce it | 11:26 |
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| Macer | i was so sad that day | 11:26 |
| Macer | although messing with my G2 .. android has its moments | 11:27 |
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| ErwinJunge | Might be a good idea actually, just hotglue it in place or something | 11:27 |
| Macer | not too bad but not maemo | 11:27 |
| Macer | and the kb on the n900 is better | 11:27 |
| Macer | yeah. do it now while there is hope | 11:27 |
| ErwinJunge | Definately | 11:27 |
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| Macer | i honestly didnt know about the crapily soldered port | 11:28 |
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| Macer | so it came as a shock to me when it broke | 11:28 |
| Macer | talk about saving money in the wrong places | 11:28 |
| Macer | :) | 11:29 |
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| Macer | ah well. hopefully this weekend i can find a place that can solder it on | 11:29 |
| Macer | and put something on it to make sure it never falls off again | 11:29 |
| ErwinJunge | Good luck with it | 11:30 |
| Macer | i miss my n900 so much | 11:30 |
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| Macer | thanks. | 11:30 |
| Macer | tech.rancorous.net | 11:31 |
| Macer | i put pics of the broken one there | 11:31 |
| Macer | :) | 11:31 |
| Macer | ah well | 11:31 |
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| ErwinJunge | Interesting pic there of a guy who fixed it | 11:36 |
| Juozapas | what is the name of "user guide" package? i want to remove it via apt-get | 11:36 |
| ErwinJunge | However I think I'll need to get someone else to fix that for me as well, looks very tiny and easy to screw up... | 11:37 |
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| ErwinJunge | Juozapas: No idea, did some quick apt-cache search stuff, but can't find it. | 11:40 |
| ErwinJunge | Why not just use HAM or fapman? | 11:40 |
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| Juozapas | :/ | 11:49 |
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| Shapeshifter | No gnu screen in the repos :< | 12:05 |
| Shapeshifter | I am disappoint. | 12:05 |
| Shapeshifter | No tmux either. | 12:05 |
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| Sicelo | there is :) | 12:08 |
| robbiethe1st | Screen's in a 'tools' repo along with some other stuff | 12:10 |
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| Sicelo | distribution: fremantle/tools | 12:21 |
| RST38h | hehe, the Kangal guy continues his photoshop design quest =) | 12:26 |
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| crashanddie | haha | 12:37 |
| crashanddie | The N9 won't be sold in The US, Canada, Belgium, Norway, Netherlands, UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy... | 12:38 |
| jiero | ? | 12:40 |
| crashanddie | Oh wait | 12:40 |
| crashanddie | bad blog post, disregard that. | 12:40 |
| jiero | nope, n9 won't sell in US and UK only. | 12:40 |
| psycho_oreos | there was a tmo thread about N9 not for sale in US | 12:40 |
| crashanddie | I don't get the US and UK move though. | 12:41 |
| ysss | won't be hard to bring one into US, since it's a fcc certified device anyway | 12:41 |
| jiero | beside, any news to bring N9 system to N900? | 12:41 |
| psycho_oreos | the funny irony is that even though you may not be able to officially get it in US but that doesn't stop you from sourcing the device elsewhere | 12:41 |
| ysss | the problem will probably just be the price.. and time to ship it.. | 12:41 |
| crashanddie | I mean, sure, I get it, because Elop wants WP to dominate, yada yada. | 12:41 |
| psycho_oreos | I don't think either of those are an issue if one's desperate | 12:41 |
| crashanddie | ysss, the problem is carriers | 12:41 |
| crashanddie | ysss, if carriers don't offer it with a contract, most people won't buy it. | 12:42 |
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| ysss | crash: sure, for nokia. i was talking from a personal pov. | 12:42 |
| jiero | if there is no Lock, I guess N9 will be same fate as N900? | 12:42 |
| ysss | the n9 has a wider appeal than n900 though.. not to mention it won't have a Tmobile-only frequency (rite?) | 12:43 |
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| psycho_oreos | There's no exact wording on what N9 will be like, will it be a proper phone or will it be an internet tablet with phone functionality just like N900 will be ultimately decided by nokia themselves | 12:47 |
| psycho_oreos | technically if the carriers don't sell the N9 through a contract, this would actually turn people off. As that would mean for them to obtain one is to either buy it in its outright price (if they can afford it) or to simply not bother with the device at all | 12:47 |
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| jiero | N9 must have more Commercial support, I saw EA. | 12:48 |
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| jiero | Beside, N9 won't lose market in China. less than 1% of Chinese buy phone from contract. | 12:48 |
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| xkr47 | n950!! | 12:52 |
| xkr47 | how do oyu like it Venemo_N950? | 12:52 |
| Venemo_N950 | xkr47, I like it | 12:53 |
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| Venemo_N950 | how much I prefer it or not I will decide when the final firmware comes :) | 12:53 |
| jiero | will Nokia sell N950 in US and UK? | 12:56 |
| Tronic | It would appear that they don't but I would only consider that a rumor at this point. | 12:56 |
| Tronic | (especially the UK part) | 12:56 |
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| crashanddie | jiero, the N950 will not be sold anywhere. | 12:57 |
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| jiero | crashanddie: I don't want it to be so sure. -_- | 12:58 |
| cobra182 | Has anyone seen a issue where the facebook account is not available in the normal accounts for conversations etc? Community Update. I swear it was there before and is now missing. | 12:58 |
| Tronic | crashanddie, jiero: Hmm, I misread that as N9 :O | 12:59 |
| psycho_oreos | the N950 wasn't meant to be sold anywhere and I highly doubt there would be any doubts over N950 being manufactured and made for sale | 13:05 |
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| Trewas | eh nokia quit from american market completely for now | 13:11 |
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| crashanddie | not at all, Trewas | 13:17 |
| crashanddie | they're just creating an artificial dry spell | 13:17 |
| Venemo_N950 | hm | 13:18 |
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| Tronic | Sure, let stores reorganize the shelves so that there is no "Nokia" area anymore. | 13:18 |
| Tronic | That sure will help. | 13:18 |
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| kerio | why wasn't the plan b successful? :( | 13:22 |
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| ysss | who knows how the 'regular joes' think nowadays, or the affluent chinese market which makes up a considerable % | 13:23 |
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| ysss | maybe they'll think the n9 is cool and the market unavailability will drive the demand (and price) up and nokia will have to make 10s of millions to satisfy the weird market | 13:24 |
| kerio | fucking Flop | 13:26 |
| ysss | go for it | 13:26 |
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| kerio | freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeenode! | 13:28 |
| utanapischti | flashmob "synchronized channel leaving"? | 13:30 |
| kerio | ping timeout brah | 13:30 |
| utanapischti | normally i would expect individual ping timeout events instead of >10 the same second | 13:31 |
| utanapischti | conspiration! | 13:31 |
| kerio | or freenode | 13:31 |
| utanapischti | the last mystery | 13:32 |
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| GAN900 | We're all going to be washed away by the rain. | 16:16 |
| RST38h | Which won't be the worst way to end one's life. | 16:17 |
| FIQ|n900 | spawn more rain | 16:19 |
| jaska | which rain | 16:19 |
| FIQ|n900 | that rain *points to the window* | 16:20 |
| jaska | there is no rain. | 16:20 |
| FIQ|n900 | the rain isn't a lie! | 16:20 |
| utanapischti | "there" is an illusion | 16:20 |
| GAN900 | You'd figure with so much rain here Florida drivers would eventually get wise to how to handle it. | 16:21 |
| GAN900 | But noooo, we've got all the damn yankees down here who freak out when there's a little lightning. | 16:22 |
| FIQ|n900 | thunder here as well :D | 16:22 |
| FIQ|n900 | atm | 16:22 |
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| vi__ | heelo | 16:39 |
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| GAN900 | Hahaha | 17:01 |
| GAN900 | There are 5 cars stalled out at the instersection from trying to go through the puddle. | 17:01 |
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| AliasXZ | must be deep! | 17:02 |
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| GAN900 | Idiots | 17:05 |
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| * javispedro sighs at TMO downtime and the latest | 17:49 | |
| javispedro | post in the ask council thread. | 17:49 |
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| ErwinJunge | javispedro: link? | 18:12 |
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| javispedro | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1067305&postcount=415 | 18:13 |
| javispedro | I did not know that some idiot was trying to sell one of those noop "optimizer" apps. | 18:13 |
| javispedro | and specially I did not know that he shipped as many GPLd binaries (what for?) without source. | 18:14 |
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| Triscar0 | hi, what is the defualt user\pass when connect to my N900 thru putty ? | 18:15 |
| javispedro | Triscar0: you entered it when installing openssh. | 18:15 |
| SpeedEvil | It is set when you install | 18:15 |
| SpeedEvil | that | 18:15 |
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| ErwinJunge | user = root, password = set when you install | 18:16 |
| ErwinJunge | Hm... ninja'd :) | 18:16 |
| Triscar0 | i didnt install anything? just connected my n900 to my network and putty it? | 18:16 |
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| SpeedEvil | Then there is no ssh server running on it | 18:18 |
| SpeedEvil | and you can't connect | 18:18 |
| ErwinJunge | javispedro: Why would anyone even bother to try something named "Nokia N900 Smartphone Performance Efficient Enhance Optimization Tune-Up Utilities" ? It even sounds like a scam... | 18:19 |
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| javispedro | ErwinJunge: you'd be surprised... | 18:19 |
| MohammadAG | OMG where do I sign up? | 18:20 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, dude!!1 | 18:20 |
| ErwinJunge | Considering that I'm always surprised when people click links in random e-mails, I guess I'd be surprised here as well :) | 18:20 |
| SpeedEvil | It should have 'with details of money left to you with an african dictator' in the title too | 18:20 |
| MohammadAG | Nokia N900 Smartphone Performance Efficient Enhance Optimization Tune-Up Utilities can totally optimize aegis!!! | 18:20 |
| javispedro | btw | 18:21 |
| MohammadAG | yes I know aegis was hole-d | 18:21 |
| ErwinJunge | MohammadAG: Now what would happen if that line in the logs would become the first hit in google? :D | 18:21 |
| MohammadAG | ErwinJunge, ??? | 18:21 |
| MohammadAG | followed by Profit! of course | 18:21 |
| ErwinJunge | Haha | 18:21 |
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| javispedro | any (root) app can trigger aegis selfdestruction by writing to /var/malf | 18:22 |
| javispedro | so there's DocScrutinizer's trigger-aegis-selfdestruction app | 18:22 |
| javispedro | insta-reflash! | 18:23 |
| MohammadAG | echo 1 > /var/malf | 18:23 |
| javispedro | MohammadAG: you need a reboot or "dsmetool -b" for that to enter in effect | 18:23 |
| javispedro | but I wouldn't do that. | 18:23 |
| javispedro | unless you have USB cable nearly. | 18:24 |
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| javispedro | I have to wonder if the level of user-friendliness of a mobile device community can be evaluated by monitoring the feedback to "dubious effect tuneup" applications. | 18:31 |
| ErwinJunge | javispedro: Btw, thanks for your help with SDL_gles earlier, I got it working. Just 5fps however, optimizing now. | 18:31 |
| javispedro | ie the fact that we still call on the guy proves that we're too geeky. | 18:31 |
| javispedro | ErwinJunge: ah, nice to know. Are you experimenting with oprofile and all of those? | 18:31 |
| ErwinJunge | :) Well, the first response said he was interested but didn't understand, so that's a good thing right? | 18:31 |
| strangr | is the python interpreter preinstalled in freemantle | 18:32 |
| javispedro | strangr: nope, but it's on extras. | 18:32 |
| ErwinJunge | Yeah, used oprofile. Normally use gprof, but it's remarkably similar. | 18:32 |
| javispedro | oprofile is the suggested way on Maemo either way, considering that we have -dbg symbols for several packages and the oprofile module (already a miracle) | 18:33 |
| strangr | can i compile my python scripts into a binary to execute on freemantle | 18:33 |
| ErwinJunge | 20% of time is spent inside one function with a lot of vectorizable loops. Sadly, gcc fails to use neon for this, so I'm looking into writing neon assembly. | 18:33 |
| Triscar0 | after a factory reset, will the lock code change?, what is the orginal lock code? 12345? | 18:33 |
| javispedro | strangr: just depend on the interpreter | 18:33 |
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| strangr | javispedro: ok so its in extras.. can i have it automatically installed with a qt app i package? | 18:35 |
| ErwinJunge | javispedro: Did you ever try upgrading gcc to get better auto-vectorization? | 18:35 |
| javispedro | ErwinJunge: yeah, the Fremantle gcc version also seemingly has a few neon intrinsics bugs | 18:35 |
| javispedro | strangr: http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.or | 18:35 |
| javispedro | strangr: http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org | 18:35 |
| javispedro | ErwinJunge: nope, did not have the need so far. | 18:36 |
| ErwinJunge | Was notified about the bugs already (thankfully before implementing the algorithm in neon intrinsics). That's why I'm going to do it in hand-crafted assembly. Should be fun :) | 18:36 |
| strangr | javispedro: thanks :) | 18:36 |
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| ErwinJunge | javispedro: I didn't have the need so far either, but this code is in the "embarassingly parallel" group, so it should be easily vectorizable... When googling about upgrading gcc I only found a lot of "not going to work, don't try, very hard" kind of comments. Was hoping to find someone here who had some experience with it. | 18:38 |
| javispedro | I can attest it is "very hard". | 18:39 |
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| javispedro | so you could test using the prebuilt codesourcery toolchains first | 18:41 |
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| ErwinJunge | Yeah, going to try that. The upside ofcourse is that if it does autovectorize, I can always simply use it's assembly code in the app ;) | 18:43 |
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| fosstux | Hi! I'm just trying to flash my N900 using Fedora 15. I'm using the maemo flasher 3.5 from tar.gz. | 19:11 |
| fosstux | All I get is Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy | 19:11 |
| fosstux | But it detects the device at bus 002 | 19:12 |
| fosstux | any Ideas? | 19:12 |
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| flux | fosstux, I don't know, but maybe some other process that gets interested on the device as well | 19:16 |
| flux | fosstux, you could try lsof or fuser to find out, but I'm not certain those will reeval all users | 19:16 |
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| hiemanshu | fosstux: you have modprobe -r cdc_phonet | 19:23 |
| hiemanshu | have to* | 19:23 |
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| Triscar0 | what command shuld i run on jack the ripper to get it work ? trying to crack my lock code pass because i forgot it. | 19:35 |
| Triscar0 | john -i:digits /home/dir/phone_lock_hash | 19:36 |
| Triscar0 | ? | 19:36 |
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| fosstux | I got it to work. | 19:47 |
| fosstux | bye | 19:47 |
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| Itschue | hello | 19:58 |
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| Itschue | hello what is the best way to get ssh over usb with windows pc | 20:01 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/10/nokia_n9_uk_no_plans/ | 20:05 |
| ErwinJunge | javispedro: Well, I tried with the latest codesourcery binary, also no vectorization, it claims "not vectorized: complicated access pattern." | 20:06 |
| ErwinJunge | Itschue: I got it working on with Ubuntu using this: http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_USB_networking | 20:07 |
| ErwinJunge | It has some windows instructions as well, I suggest your try those. | 20:07 |
| ErwinJunge | Btw, this is regarded by gcc as a "complicated access pattern": http://pastebin.com/BFJiqzFb | 20:10 |
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| Itschue | ErwinJunge i know this wiki instruction but i need mad developer is this the only way or the best? | 20:24 |
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| ErwinJunge | Itschue: What do you mean by "I need mad developer"? | 20:34 |
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| Itschue | Windows USB networking does not work out of the box, but the old 770 workaround still works. So follow these steps: | 20:36 |
| Itschue | install the Mad Developer application on N900 and start it and press "Usb Networking" -> "Windows Network" -> "Close | 20:36 |
| Itschue | this says the wiki in the windows sektion | 20:36 |
| ErwinJunge | Ah, well, I guess your screwed then. Sounds like a problem on the Windows side. | 20:38 |
| Itschue | also im right that this is the only way with windows? | 20:38 |
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| Itschue | and what is the better ssh openssh or dropbear ssh | 20:42 |
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| ErwinJunge | Itschue: I personally use openssh and have never had any problems with it. Can't comment on dropbear. Since I don't use windows, I really don't know if there is another way. From reading that bit of the wiki, it seems the problem lies at the Windows side of things, which suggests that it can't be solved by changing stuff on device. | 20:51 |
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| Shapeshifter | MohammadAG: Hey there, would it be a big bother to you if you would update the youtube-dl package to a more recent version from git? Build and submit? Pretty please? :) The one the repo has a bad bug. | 20:57 |
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| Shapeshifter | MohammadAG: mh wait a minute. youtube-dl can update itself ^^ | 20:59 |
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| Itschue | ok thanks erwin and an other thing is this youi know this thread http://www.forums.internettablettalk.com/showthread.php?t=73315 | 21:00 |
| Itschue | i this good or probably a bad thing? | 21:00 |
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| ErwinJunge | Itschue: Generally speaking, all of the "magic speedup script/app" things are bad. I don't know this particular one though. | 21:02 |
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| ErwinJunge | Itschue: Also, the thread tags include things such as "autobrick", "do not install" and "script-a-brick". | 21:04 |
| ErwinJunge | Doesn't sound very safe to me (I won't try it) | 21:04 |
| Shapeshifter | Itschue: plus they pretty much don't do crock. | 21:05 |
| Shapeshifter | Itschue: mostly placebo. | 21:05 |
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| Shapeshifter | What format should a video be in to run absolutely great on the N900? | 21:25 |
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| Itschue | shapeshifter & erwinjunge so its a little fake ? i thougt that isnt really good so i dont try it i think this is the best | 21:27 |
| ErwinJunge | Itschue: What we're saying is that it is most likely fake and that we don't trust it so are not going to try. | 21:28 |
| ErwinJunge | Shapeshifter: 1x1 ;) You'll be guaranteed a great framerate | 21:28 |
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| ErwinJunge | But more seriously, I the N900 has hardware acceleration for H264, MPEG-4 and WMV9 | 21:31 |
| ErwinJunge | So I'd go with H264. Don't forget to scale to 800x480 | 21:32 |
| Shapeshifter | ErwinJunge: Thanks. Any pointer what tool is best to convert flv to H264 on the device? | 21:39 |
| Shapeshifter | ffmpeg? | 21:40 |
| n900evil | I used mencoder. | 21:42 |
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| ErwinJunge | I always use mencoder as well | 21:48 |
| ErwinJunge | But I think flv can have H264 in it, so just try | 21:48 |
| ErwinJunge | flv = container format, right? | 21:48 |
| ErwinJunge | H264 = codec | 21:48 |
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| ruskie | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/USB-30-Promoter-Group-USB-Power-Delivery-specification/ <-- erm | 22:12 |
| ErwinJunge | Yeah, 20A over your usb cable, think of the possibilities! Free lighting and portable heat from the fire started in the cable! ;) | 22:15 |
| SpeedEvil | Not quite. | 22:15 |
| SpeedEvil | For example, 30V@2.5A | 22:16 |
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| Shapeshifter | ErwinJunge: yes I would need to check if the contents are H264, sometimes they are, sometimes not. | 22:16 |
| SpeedEvil | In fact, it pretty much has to be under 2A or shit will catch fire | 22:16 |
| kerio | optification is also oops, i accidentally the whole FHS | 22:17 |
| kerio | no, wait | 22:17 |
| kerio | ~optification is also oops, i accidentally the whole FHS | 22:17 |
| infobot | kerio: that's too long | 22:17 |
| kerio | infobot, y u no worky | 22:17 |
| kerio | optification is also i accidentally the whole FHS | 22:17 |
| kerio | infobot: optification is also i accidentally the whole FHS | 22:17 |
| infobot | that's too long, kerio | 22:17 |
| kerio | well fuck you then | 22:18 |
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| ErwinJunge | SpeedEvil: They don't say they're going to up the voltage, right? | 22:21 |
| ErwinJunge | So then 100W means 20A | 22:22 |
| ErwinJunge | Which is exciting for the cable to say the least ;) | 22:22 |
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| * SpeedEvil sighs. | 22:26 | |
| SpeedEvil | Read the fucking words. | 22:26 |
| SpeedEvil | Sorry, but... | 22:26 |
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| SpeedEvil | I shouldn't internet with migraine. | 22:29 |
| SpeedEvil | Anyway - key words are 'or voltage' | 22:29 |
| ErwinJunge | enabling voltage and current values to be negotiated over the USB power pins - my bad | 22:30 |
| ErwinJunge | Read a different article earlier that didn't mention that | 22:30 |
| ErwinJunge | Only mentioned raising the current | 22:30 |
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| SpeedEvil | I also thought this was ##electronics | 22:32 |
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| SpeedEvil | Which would have been a ratehr sillier comment there. | 22:32 |
| SpeedEvil | I've also been randing about that they should do this for at least 8 years now. :) | 22:33 |
| GAN900 | SpeedEvil, get the silly N950 behaving yet? | 22:34 |
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| SpeedEvil | GAN900: For some barking mad reason, it wouldn't flash on 2.6.33 properly. | 22:41 |
| SpeedEvil | I compiled a fresh 3 (for laptop, not phone) and it worke. | 22:42 |
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| SpeedEvil | I'm now setting up a logging proxy for its first connection to the internet | 22:42 |
| crysis | hello, anyone here? | 22:42 |
| GAN900 | pong | 22:43 |
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| crysis | I have a question about nitdroid | 22:44 |
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| Sujith | hello | 22:44 |
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| Sujith | im having problems regarding my phone updates | 22:45 |
| Sujith | can anyone help me please | 22:45 |
| crysis | if you have an microsd card, does it auto install on it and doesn't partition the main memory so when you take it out its as it was before the install? | 22:45 |
| Sujith | hello crysis , | 22:45 |
| crysis | hi, I guess we both need help :) | 22:45 |
| Sujith | :) | 22:46 |
| crysis | whats wrong with your updates? | 22:46 |
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| Sujith | the thing is it,,,whenever i m trying to install new applications | 22:46 |
| Sujith | it says an error | 22:46 |
| Sujith | so i doubt it must be a software update of my version | 22:47 |
| Sujith | is that so , crysis ? | 22:47 |
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| crysis | is this with every app or only a specific one? | 22:47 |
| Sujith | i would say a proportion of 5 out of 10 apps i m trying to download | 22:48 |
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| crysis | do you have the extra repository enabled? | 22:48 |
| Sujith | sorry , what's that ? | 22:49 |
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| Sujith | and i never knew to take advantage of x - terminal too | 22:49 |
| crysis | http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel | 22:50 |
| Sujith | so you can treat me a lik a kid with N900 | 22:50 |
| Sujith | so , should i download this app or firmware update ? | 22:51 |
| crysis | lol im not an expert myself, don't know how much help I can be, I wish someone else spoke up :) | 22:51 |
| crysis | no | 22:51 |
| Sicelo | crysis: i'm sure someone can help u with Nitdroid, but see /topic as well | 22:51 |
| crysis | which topic? | 22:51 |
| Sicelo | Sujith: what error do you get? | 22:51 |
| Sujith | i am getting errors like | 22:52 |
| Sujith | some catalogues couldnt be installed | 22:52 |
| Sicelo | topic for this channel crysis | 22:52 |
| Sujith | so , does it mean should i update my maemo version | 22:52 |
| Sujith | Sicelo ? | 22:53 |
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| Sujith | is ther anyone who could help me ? any experts on maemo 5 | 22:54 |
| Sicelo | check the log i Apllication manager | 22:55 |
| Sicelo | /s/g i/g in/ | 22:55 |
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| crysis | lol I'm such a noob, where are these topics and how can I access them? | 22:55 |
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| Sicelo | then paste it somewhere so we can see what's happening Sujith | 22:56 |
| Sujith | yea Sicelo , i found the log on my phone | 22:57 |
| Sicelo | crysis: in part, topic says : PROBLEMS WITH NITDROID/MULTIBOOT? reflash | 22:57 |
| Sujith | for application manager | 22:57 |
| Sicelo | rootfs&kernel aka COMBINED | 22:57 |
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| Sicelo | i'm not saying someone can't help u | 22:57 |
| Sujith | Should i say those application log | 22:59 |
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| Sicelo | yes Sujith . but not here because it may be too long | 23:00 |
| Sicelo | use a Pastebin on internet | 23:00 |
| Sujith | is that the only way , Sicelo or can we find a another way to sort this issue off | 23:01 |
| Sujith | can you give me the latest maemo version recently updated | 23:02 |
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| Sicelo | i'm noob myself | 23:02 |
| Sujith | so that i can check with mine | 23:02 |
| crysis | pr 1.3 | 23:02 |
| crysis | thats the newest update if I'm not mistaken | 23:02 |
| Sujith | mine is 10.2010.19-1.003 | 23:03 |
| Sujith | i checked it unnder about product from seetings | 23:03 |
| Sujith | can you check urs as well , crysis | 23:03 |
| Sicelo | 20.2010.36-2 | 23:03 |
| Sicelo | flash | 23:03 |
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| Sujith | Sicelo , so should i update my maemo ? | 23:04 |
| Sicelo | ~flashing | 23:04 |
| infobot | [maemo-flashing] http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 23:04 |
| Sicelo | yes, update Sujith | 23:04 |
| crysis | I have 20.2010.36-2 | 23:04 |
| Sujith | so thats my problem i think | 23:05 |
| Sujith | is that the only way to flash it ,,following those instructions | 23:05 |
| Sicelo | yes. the page gives u 3 options iirc | 23:05 |
| crysis | sicelo do you have nitdroid installed? | 23:06 |
| Sicelo | OTA update, using Nokia PC Softeare, or flashing | 23:06 |
| Sicelo | no crysis. and never will. sorry | 23:06 |
| crysis | why is not good? | 23:07 |
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| crysis | *it | 23:07 |
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| Sicelo | Sujith: if u decide to flash, please read the whole page careful before starting | 23:08 |
| Sujith | yes sicelo , i am going to try with Nokia PC suite | 23:09 |
| Sujith | thanks a lot for ur help..will let you know once i am done,,,or stuck somehwere | 23:09 |
| Sicelo | crysis: from what i can make out, problem is Multiboot more than Nitdroid itself | 23:09 |
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| crysis | so many ppl on and so little talk going on *sigh | 23:14 |
| Sicelo | they all volunteer their time crysis. no one is paid. please be patient | 23:15 |
| Sicelo | by the way, what is the question u have? | 23:16 |
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| crysis | i not complaining, I just thought there would be more activity here, now theres no one to spy on :) | 23:20 |
| crysis | oh my q, is the nitdroid install on the sd card or do you have to partition you main memory | 23:21 |
| NIN101 | there should be documents about that | 23:22 |
| NIN101 | and yes, it can be installed to the sd card | 23:22 |
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| crysis | but the multiboot utility in installed on maemo right? | 23:22 |
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| NIN101 | more or less correct | 23:23 |
| crysis | can it be installed like a normal app without nitdroid? | 23:23 |
| NIN101 | well it is not a normal app, it actually is in the pre boot environment and tbh, I don't know so much about multiboot or nitroid. | 23:24 |
| Sicelo | iirc multiboot can be installed alone | 23:24 |
| Sicelo | what u want to do with it? | 23:25 |
| NIN101 | yes it can. | 23:25 |
| Sujith | sicelo,, | 23:25 |
| Sujith | my software update has been done | 23:25 |
| Sujith | and i am in the same version as u guys | 23:25 |
| Sujith | :D | 23:25 |
| Sicelo | \0/ Sujith | 23:26 |
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| Sujith | Sicelo | 23:30 |
| Sujith | can you suggest me some ways | 23:30 |
| Sujith | how to keep the N900 run faster | 23:30 |
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| Sujith | coz i find mine slower especially when i am connected to the mobile web | 23:31 |
| Sicelo | :/ | 23:31 |
| Sicelo | there was discussion earlier about speed-improving scripts. i haven't used any of them | 23:32 |
| Sicelo | i'm happy with the speed of my N900 | 23:33 |
| Sujith | ooh i missed it :( | 23:33 |
| * SpeedEvil wants a speed-improving script. | 23:33 | |
| derf | I want an evil-improving script. | 23:33 |
| Sujith | the thing is that i am little worried about that installing more and more apps and themes and stuffs like that make the N900 go slower in performance | 23:33 |
| RST38h | derf: it is called EMACS | 23:34 |
| luke-jr | any sign of a replacement for N900 yet? | 23:35 |
| joga | I got rid of all the useless stuff I could find...transition effects and swappolube have the most visible impact | 23:35 |
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| derf | RST38h: Okay, then I changed my mind. You can keep it. | 23:36 |
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| Sujith | Can you suggest some really useful apps that should be must installed on N900 | 23:41 |
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| Sujith | for an example, Do you suggest a browser like opera or firefox in addition to the default one present in N900 | 23:42 |
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| crysis | I have firefox installed but never really use it, the default is excelent | 23:44 |
| Sujith | oh thanks a lot crysis , since my device has been updated,,i am looking for the best apps | 23:46 |
| derf | The default is just a variant of Firefox 3.5. | 23:47 |
| Trewas | Sujith: the default browser is IMO superior the anything else available, but for example maep is a must have in addition to the nokia maps, also fbreader but then you need a ebook-reader or not | 23:47 |
| joga | I +1 previous comments... | 23:47 |
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| joga | the default browser is indeed very good | 23:47 |
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| joga | Sujith, just a tip, if you want a navigation app, modRana (in devel repos I think) is a pretty good one, maep is also handy | 23:48 |
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| Sujith | thanks a lot joga and Trewas | 23:53 |
| Sujith | i just installed Opera,,, | 23:53 |
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| Sujith | and will also need modRana often,,,i always forget routes | 23:54 |
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