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| Guest91332 | grr | 03:05 |
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| * SpeedEvil rages at bugs. | 03:35 | |
| SpeedEvil | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9827 | 03:35 |
| povbot | Bug 9827: Blocks should have highscore | 03:35 |
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| SpeedEvil | bugs.maemo.org uses an invalid security certificate. | 03:35 |
| SpeedEvil | The certificate expired on 07/28/2011 12:59 AM. The current time is 07/30/2011 01:35 AM. | 03:35 |
| SpeedEvil | hmm | 03:35 |
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| _NIN | yes | 03:37 |
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| hatake_kakashi | any of you guys played with mtd-utils? and specifically on flasher-3.5's unpacked fiasco images? for some weird reason the mtd-utils I got, I can't extract rootfs.jffs2. In saying so, file reports rootfs.jffs2 as HIT data. I might give 0xFFFF a try | 03:53 |
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| Hurrian | n900 doesn't like the word "preenv" ;) | 04:30 |
| Hurrian | oh wtf | 04:31 |
| Hurrian | ossofilemanager crashes the thing | 04:31 |
| Hurrian | mount network share, select copy, new folder destination, crash | 04:32 |
| Hurrian | time to report some bugs | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | hatake_kakashi: I don't think we got any jffs2 on N900 | 04:37 |
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| Hurrian | hatake_kakashi: it's a UBIFS image | 04:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | hatake_kakashi: rootfs of fremantle/N900 is ubifs | 04:38 |
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| hatake_kakashi | DocScrutinizer && Hurrian: heh good thing some wise people are still awake :). I've figured it out sometime a little afterwards that it is UBIFS, with all the UBI! words in the first few lines of that rootfs.jffs2. Now to dump it would be another thing | 04:39 |
| Hurrian | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35554 | 04:40 |
| hatake_kakashi | thanks Hurrian | 04:41 |
| Hurrian | maemo = most pelicular linux distro ever | 04:42 |
| Hurrian | oh right, back to reporting that bug | 04:42 |
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| Hurrian | methinks memory corruption | 04:43 |
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| Hurrian | oh well, at least the reboots didnt damage the home filesystem | 04:44 |
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| orangey | hello all! | 05:28 |
| orangey | I'm trying to get the bleeding edge drivers loaded when I boot | 05:28 |
| orangey | instead of my usual protocol of doing it manually every single time | 05:28 |
| orangey | I made a file in event.d | 05:29 |
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| orangey | (called kernel-power) and put the script from this post in it: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=951226&postcount=361 | 05:30 |
| orangey | however, it still won't load up. The part in 'script' is of course something that DOES work when I do it manually (/home/user instead of /home/user/lxp) | 05:31 |
| orangey | any idea how to even troubleshoot it? | 05:31 |
| orangey | do I have to chmod +x the script or something? | 05:31 |
| radic | orangey: yes | 05:32 |
| orangey | radic: that is not the condition of most other scripts in that dir | 05:33 |
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| radic | put #!/bin/bash in the first line | 05:33 |
| orangey | radic: that would make this file completely unique and unlike all the other files in event.d, and not in accordance with what the wiki says | 05:34 |
| orangey | not too surprisingly, +x didn't change anything | 05:35 |
| radic | and #!/bin/bash in the first line? | 05:36 |
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| orangey | radic: no, but like I stated, none of the files in /etc/event.d have that | 05:39 |
| orangey | and it is not the proper syntax according to the wiki | 05:39 |
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| ShadowJK | is bash even installed by default? | 05:43 |
| radic | orangey: you've strace installed? | 05:43 |
| orangey | ShadowJK: I have bash installed anyhow | 05:43 |
| ShadowJK | in any case, bad idea to get bash involved in bootup scripts | 05:43 |
| orangey | radic: actually, don't believe so | 05:43 |
| orangey | I think I got it.. have to do exec | 05:44 |
| radic | ShadowJK: bash is installed by default on my N800 | 05:45 |
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| hatake_kakashi | bash isn't installed as default on any N900, nor was it provided with the firmware image | 05:47 |
| orangey | i weep for my orphaned n900 | 05:47 |
| orangey | it's so wonderful | 05:47 |
| orangey | and so hackable | 05:47 |
| hatake_kakashi | the default shell is ash which is provided by busybox | 05:47 |
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| orangey | Ok, finally got it | 06:07 |
| orangey | sheesh | 06:07 |
| orangey | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1060924#post1060924 | 06:07 |
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| TimmyT | ok finally i flashed it | 06:12 |
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| TimmyT1 | i've updated my maemo to its latest version, here i see it has added sum new account types in its built-in conversation messenger. but seems yahoo doesn't work, how to fix it? | 09:00 |
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| iluminator101 | hi how do i find out whats inside a mp4 container in commandline? | 10:30 |
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| dm8tbr | mplayer with libcaca? | 10:38 |
| dm8tbr | but more seriously, _what_ do you want to find out? | 10:38 |
| iluminator101 | i got it ffmpeg -i | 10:39 |
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| iluminator101 | what is the opposite of sudo gainroot | 11:27 |
| iluminator101 | i wanna put it but to normal mode not R&D mode | 11:28 |
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| iluminator101 | how do i reverse sudo gainroot | 11:44 |
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| dm8tbr | iluminator101: 'exit'? | 11:47 |
| iluminator101 | after did sudo gainroot my device is not charging...i plug it in nothing its not showing its charging | 11:48 |
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| hatake_kakashi | opposite of gainroot != switching between normal mode and R&D mode. To switch between normal mode and R&D mode you have to use the flasher utility | 11:50 |
| hatake_kakashi | and I personally don't think R&D mode will prevent the device from charging. I have two N900, both of them can be charged even in R&D mode | 11:51 |
| dm8tbr | same here | 11:51 |
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| iluminator101 | device is not charging nothing wrong with the plug | 11:52 |
| hatake_kakashi | I think there are at times the device does not accept charging. I am not sure exactly why but sometimes unplugging and plugging the charger cable back in will get the device charging | 11:52 |
| hatake_kakashi | I've had to repeat plugging in/unplugging process at most 5 times. Though if after several times (beyond 5) the device will still not charge, I think it could be potential signs of dead USB port. | 11:53 |
| robbiethe1st | I've found that BME is indeed flakey | 11:54 |
| hatake_kakashi | I thought there could be issues when one using pk, I'm using pk on both my N900 but mainly my older N900 is the one showing more prominent signs of requiring to plug USB cable in lots of times | 11:56 |
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| robbiethe1st | One thing you can do is, as root, "stop bme", wait 30 seconds, plug in the USB cable(LED should glow solid orange) "start bme | 11:57 |
| robbiethe1st | If you did it right, the screen backlight will turn /off/, and it'll start charging | 11:57 |
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| Sicelo | talking about that robbiethe1st, how does one stop bme? killing it reboots the device | 11:59 |
| robbiethe1st | Uh, "stop bme" as root | 11:59 |
| * Sicelo is stupid :P | 12:00 | |
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| Sicelo | thanks | 12:00 |
| robbiethe1st | NP | 12:00 |
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| robbiethe1st | Also, depending, ShadowJK's charging script may also help | 12:01 |
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| Sicelo | yeah.. that's what i wanted it for, in order to do a proper learn cycle | 12:02 |
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| ShadowJK | restarting bme with pk's battery kernel module loaded might fail or not work properly | 12:49 |
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| cehteh | http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110728007223/en/Strategy-Analytics-Apple-Worlds-Number-Smartphone-Vendor go elop, go! :P | 12:58 |
| cehteh | from 38% to 15% on a growing market .. sounds like a plan | 12:59 |
| robbiethe1st | Of course, Google's the real winner. Apple may have the highest per-vendor share, Google has the highest per-os share. | 13:01 |
| robbiethe1st | and probably has a huge chunk of that 48+17% share | 13:02 |
| cehteh | what licensing does andoig cost? whats googles profit (we all know that M$ gets its share too) | 13:02 |
| cehteh | well i dont really care | 13:03 |
| cehteh | i only like to see some vendor grabbing the open platform model up | 13:03 |
| cehteh | apple wont, nokia denied ... | 13:03 |
| cehteh | leaves samsung, LG and few others | 13:04 |
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| robbiethe1st | Android costs nothing to license from Google. MS, however... | 13:09 |
| robbiethe1st | $5/handset unless you've got patents to cross-license | 13:10 |
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| robbiethe1st | Personally, I want Kubuntu Mobile and or debian with hildon desktop... but I doubt I'll be seeing that anytime soon | 13:10 |
| cehteh | maemo/meego would already be good enough, sans the nokia fuckup | 13:11 |
| robbiethe1st | Yea | 13:12 |
| hatake_kakashi | there's cordia which may potentially bring hildon-desktop onto ubuntu environments | 13:14 |
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| robbiethe1st | Yea, and I think it's a good idea | 13:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | actualy powerkernel is broken regarding all i2c until most recently | 13:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | esp bme may refuse to work at random moments | 13:32 |
| hatake_kakashi | most recently would mean pk48 has addressed the issue? | 13:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yes | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | should | 13:36 |
| hatake_kakashi | hmm interesting, I guess I may have to give pk48 a go. The last I read there was issues with bluetooth handsfree which directly affects me as I regularly use my BH-905 at work. | 13:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | v47 (back to v45 it seems) is actually *broken* in a very basic way, and it's almost impossible to tell which are the symptoms of this bug | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | *could* even kill your CPU | 13:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | (smartreflex aka PMU VCC voltage, this "undervolt" thing for CPU power, also gets controlled via I2C) | 13:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and on I2C there can happen random things on PK45..47 - though it's extremely unlikely something as nasty as ramp up CPU voltage to BRZZZZ level will happen | 13:44 |
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| robbiethe1st | That would explain random corruption, though. Some voltage not getting set quite right, one of those 300 times per second it ramps between 0 and 250mhz while in "sleep" mode | 13:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | yeah, matan introduced a "patch" (read botch) that basically implements an "always return ok" policy into I2C's "man 2 flock()" | 13:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | I.E. you CAN NOT lock I2C devices any more | 13:52 |
| robbiethe1st | So, why is it not in extras-devel yet? | 13:52 |
| robbiethe1st | Pali should be yelled at until he's uploaded it properly | 13:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | now add to that the fact that e.g PMU needs unlock sequence to allow writing to the VDD voltage settings etc | 13:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | pali whined to get help why it doesn't show up at all on repos | 13:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | nobody cared so far | 13:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | it IS on extras-devel AIUI | 13:54 |
| robbiethe1st | huh | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | it just doesn't show up correctly | 13:54 |
| hatake_kakashi | o.O | 13:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/VDD/Vcore, Vcc/ | 13:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the nasty thing about the brocken locking in I2C API is: it's harder to tell what may happen from that than it is to *proove* "bug free" for the whole kernel | 14:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | I.E. impossible | 14:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's just a sure bet to claim: all I2C related stuff *may* break as bad as possible | 14:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | with this patch of matan | 14:02 |
| cehteh | outch | 14:02 |
| robbiethe1st | What did it solve, though? | 14:02 |
| robbiethe1st | there's got to be some reason -- if misguided -- for that patch | 14:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | bq27200 kernel drive bme breakage | 14:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | bme opens bq27200 chip over I2c, the kernel driver bq27200.ko opens it exclusively though. Result: bme breaks | 14:03 |
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| robbiethe1st | Well... don't load the module, then? Or unload it before charging? | 14:10 |
| SpeedEvil | Pretty much | 14:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | robbiethe1st: just AIUI it's loaded forced on boot and seems hard to unload or blacklist | 14:12 |
| SpeedEvil | The right solution (other than ditching BME) would be to put smarts into the driver, to treat an access to I2C port x as an access to the driver | 14:12 |
| SpeedEvil | This is messy though. | 14:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | the right solution short term is binning the bq27200.ko and this insane patch. Long term the sane solution got suggested by shadowJK iirc and is a LD_PRELOAD overriding the ioctl access to those I2C APIs | 14:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | of bme | 14:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm back to my universal fopen() interceptor.so | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | somebody also suggested there are ways to open I2C in a way that's not completely blocking (iirc it was speedevil) | 14:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | so bq27200 *could* do the "right thing" and lock the I2C resource only for milliseconds when a read to the bq27200 sysnodes of this driver actually requires reading a value from the chip | 14:18 |
| SpeedEvil | That too, yes | 14:18 |
| SpeedEvil | A thingy that could do arbitrary ioctl remaps would be _so_ cool. | 14:19 |
| SpeedEvil | As well as file | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | bme seems "smart" enough to survive occasional -EAGAIN or -EBUSY on read to the I2C | 14:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | and if it's not it simply segfaults and gets restarted - not a big thing either | 14:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | unless it does that all the time | 14:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | the bq27200.ko however allocates the I2C resource exclusively and permanently on module init | 14:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaaah wait - and bme also keeps a handle/control open but not an exclusive one, so it used to work as long as bme gets started before bq27200.ko module | 14:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | stop bme; start bme -> doom guaranteed, for pre-matan-I"C-breaking-patch | 14:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | now doom is permanently pending though harder to trigger in a reliable way | 14:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | also doom is pending in *all* I2C access now, until recent V48 PK | 14:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | V48 restores the pre-matan.patch behaviour and also should remove bq27200.ko from the list of modules that get autoloaded on boot | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | I.E modprobe bq27200; stop bme; start bme; -->doom guaranteed | 14:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | no big thing as for now nobody should rely on bq27200 module anyway | 14:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/rely/depend/ | 14:31 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: no big thing as for now nobody should depend on bq27200 module anyway | 14:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | a useless module anyway, as iirc it not even provides full access to the chip's wealth of data | 14:32 |
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| jacekowski | hmm | 14:33 |
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| jacekowski | i have a device with Processor : Feroceon 88FR131 rev 1 (v5l) | 14:34 |
| jacekowski | and it's like 6x faster than n900 cpu | 14:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer | by which metrics? | 14:34 |
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| jacekowski | just calculation | 14:35 |
| jacekowski | running pi | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | also Watts/drystone ? | 14:35 |
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| jacekowski | time that it takes to calculate pi to few spaces after . | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | and: can it suspend? | 14:35 |
| jacekowski | no | 14:35 |
| jacekowski | and it's NAS not a phone | 14:35 |
| jacekowski | tablet* | 14:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | hmm, I have access to a device that is ~300 times faster than N900 cpu on such tasks | 14:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | jacekowski: how about RE bme a bit, and patch in more sane voltage threshold? | 14:38 |
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| SpeedEvil | Indeed, I'd kill for a BME with a battery threshold of 3200mV | 14:39 |
| SpeedEvil | (kill BME) | 14:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | 3100 even | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | but honestly, result of such effort should be a "tool" patchbmevoltagethreshold <int mV> | 14:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | quite possibly a sed script tuned to patch binaries ;-) | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | (the approach I failed on epically, when it was about patching the smslib | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | ) | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's daunting ther seems to be not ONE unix tool / set of tools capable of simple hexedit-alike patching in a scripted environment | 14:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | messybox doesn't exactly help on the issue either | 14:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | messybox is quite in line with harmattan aegis in this regard: allows only what some maintained figured the users may need | 14:46 |
| Atarii | bspatch is not what you're looking for? | 14:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | maintainer* | 14:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | Atarii: sounds good, never heard of it | 14:46 |
| Atarii | http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/ | 14:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | first random factoid: not installed on my pretty comprehensive desktop x86 linux developer system | 14:47 |
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| SpeedEvil | vim on a binary file | 14:47 |
| SpeedEvil | Though that's not quite what you're looking for | 14:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, I bet that will work :-D | 14:48 |
| SpeedEvil | It pops up a hex screen | 14:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I bet vi *could* eat scripts as well | 14:48 |
| ruskie | MEMMOVE=0x$(objdump -S -j .plt $INPUT | grep memmove |awk '{ print $1 }') | 14:49 |
| ruskie | [ $MEMMOVE = "0x" ] && echo "Can't find memmove call in $INPUT PLT" | 14:49 |
| ruskie | something like that? | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | I have to admit I managed since ~20 yeras to not touch vi(m) | 14:49 |
| ruskie | there is also xdelta for binary patching | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | ruskie: yeah, just check messybox awk, to feel with my frustration | 14:50 |
| ruskie | and then using printf on stuff | 14:50 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I had a solution along od and sed, but it also had "issues" - one of them the nasty habit of od to spit out a trailing line with addr but no value | 14:54 |
| SpeedEvil | ruskie: s/grep memmove|awk/awk '/memmove/ | 14:57 |
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| x29a | can i make the packaging call more verbose? im using the QtSDK to deploy via mad, but i get: mad dpkg-buildpackage -nc -uc -us' failed.Exit code: 2 | 15:47 |
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| SpeedEvil | DocScrutinizer: o you happen to recall teh samplerate of the voltmeter on the bq27200 | 15:50 |
| SpeedEvil | ah - nvm - I should look itup | 15:50 |
| x29a | ill try to run mad from the console, not within qtsdk | 15:51 |
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| SpeedEvil | oh - 2.5s | 15:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: some ticks faster than the 5.2s | 15:59 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah. | 15:59 |
| SpeedEvil | I'm wondering about a hacked up battery analyser to properly spit out impedence | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 15:59 |
| SpeedEvil | impedence spectroscopy | 15:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | *should* work | 15:59 |
| SpeedEvil | I'll knock out a proto tonight. | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | cool | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | ping me if you need sparring, review, help, whatever | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | SpeedEvil: OT but nice: http://r0ket.badge.events.ccc.de/ | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | looking forward to wear one of those in 10 days | 16:02 |
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| orangey | hello all | 17:37 |
| orangey | How do I edit the .mo files in /usr/share/locale/? | 17:37 |
| hatake_kakashi | you can't | 17:40 |
| orangey | hatake_kakashi: surely there's some way to manipulate it? | 17:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | seems man 1 localedef is providing some info. Anyway you need the input files I'd think | 17:52 |
| hatake_kakashi | I was about to reply but he left. .mo files are precompiled translation files. He'll need to obtain the .po files which allows editing with some translation software | 17:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | also note /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | a PITA | 17:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | 23MB of cruft, on rootfs where space is precious | 18:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer | and no way t get rid of (sorry) abominations like zh_CN | 18:04 |
| hatake_kakashi | I suppose that could be optified (and maybe later on use binding mount). Much like /var/lib/dpkg where if one has extras-devel enabled or whatever its causing it, it chews up more rootfs space | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, looking at the FQN starting with /usr/, and at | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~optification | 18:07 |
| infobot | from memory, optification is a inventive duct tape workaround to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the systeminit *and* partitioning is FUBAR, http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs, or ""OMG - I wish somebody had looked into FHS and moved /usr to eMMC"", http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 bullet1,2 and fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE16 dot3 | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd guess yes it *should* be optifyable | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | as I don't give a dang about early boot having access to a full set of translations of every possible string to every supported locale | 18:08 |
| hatake_kakashi | it maybe tricky though :) I guess if its not required around boot time it may not cause bootloops and may also not affect with the various UI | 18:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | but, you know, that's maemo and Nokia | 18:08 |
| hatake_kakashi | hmm or maybe the rest could be optified | 18:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet there's only PIN and lockcode entering dialog, and firstboot wizard for setting date/time/kbd/location that's affected by missing /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive | 18:12 |
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| hatake_kakashi | hopefully the worst case scenario with optifying it would be that one gets stab_me_*, push_this_*, etc lookalike UI :) | 18:14 |
| hatake_kakashi | s/the/in the/ | 18:14 |
| infobot | hatake_kakashi meant: hopefully in the worst case scenario with optifying it would be that one gets stab_me_*, push_this_*, etc lookalike UI :) | 18:14 |
| mgedmin | wazd, what's the licence of http://zhil.in/terminal.svg? | 18:18 |
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| Ballanux | hi all | 18:47 |
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| hatake_kakashi | hahaha, I created /etc/rc.local, within it I added mount /opt/var/lib/dpkg /var/lib/dpkg -o bind. Upon reboot I get the fancy looking dialog as I mentioned before :D | 19:02 |
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| rcg | damn.. lol.. kept updating the date in the changelog but forgot the day of week.. apparently the autobuilder then simply ignores the date and takes the date of the next upcoming, matching day of week xD | 19:26 |
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| DocScrutinizer | who provided the original DONT_PANIC bootvideo? I'd like to give proper credit on http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/bootvideo-DONTPANIC/ | 19:58 |
| kerio | is there a way to just disable mr hands? | 19:59 |
| kerio | or is a 1-frame video the best way to do that? | 19:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | kerio: see note in http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools | 20:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | just one line :-) :: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/10hildon_welcome = shaking-hands-video | 20:02 |
| TimmyT | how to mount root partition of n900 on my pc? | 20:02 |
| mgedmin | TimmyT, use sshfs | 20:03 |
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| TimmyT | mgedmin: through wifi? | 20:07 |
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| mgedmin | sure, why not? | 20:07 |
| mgedmin | (you could also use it over usbnet, if you want greater speed) | 20:08 |
| TimmyT | mgedmin: that's why i need to do this through usb | 20:08 |
| TimmyT | mgedmin: it is a little bit slow | 20:08 |
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| TimmyT | is there any music player with graphic equalizer? | 20:15 |
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| ShadowJK | jacekowski, what MHz does your Feroceon run at? | 20:16 |
| * ShadowJK has a 1200MHz sheevaplug with "Feroceon 88FR131 rev 1 (v5l)" | 20:17 | |
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| Shapeshifter | TimmyT: use compression with sshfs, it will be quicker for most files in / | 20:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer | lol, I managed to make N900 play BOTH the DONT_PANIC and the Hands video X-P | 20:38 |
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| jacekowski | ShadowJK: 1200 | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | kerio: refresh my tools page | 20:42 |
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| hatake_kakashi | TimmyT, I think rockbox has graphic equaliser | 20:49 |
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| ShadowJK | btw, encoding a ~60s wav to mp3 with lame: 1200MHz Feroceon armv5: 2m13s, N900 omap3 @ 600MHz: 1m28s | 21:09 |
| ShadowJK | :-) | 21:09 |
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| Shapeshifter | ShadowJK: how come? | 21:11 |
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| ShadowJK | how come what | 21:11 |
| Shapeshifter | ShadowJK: why is the omap3 so much faster? | 21:11 |
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| ShadowJK | Neon, and does more work per clock overall | 21:12 |
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| fvahid | how get kernel of the maemo ? | 21:16 |
| jacekowski | compiled or not? | 21:16 |
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| fvahid | jacekowski: not compiled | 21:17 |
| jacekowski | apt-get source linux-kernel | 21:18 |
| jacekowski | or something like that | 21:18 |
| jacekowski | i don't remember package name | 21:18 |
| fvahid | im not use n900. | 21:19 |
| jacekowski | in scratchbox | 21:19 |
| jacekowski | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/free/k/kernel/ | 21:20 |
| fvahid | jacekowski: tanx | 21:20 |
| ShadowJK | fvahid, looking for anything in particular? | 21:22 |
| fvahid | ShadowJK: yes | 21:23 |
| TimmyT | fvahid: ok im back | 21:26 |
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| TimmyT | fvahid: i think u are better to buy a n900, rather than finding a girlfriend, kuz whoever she be, u can't install irssi on her | 21:27 |
| TimmyT | :p | 21:27 |
| fvahid | TimmyT: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/PC/vpc-sdk/ | 21:30 |
| TimmyT | fvahid: maskhare :D. akhe morche chie ke kale pachash chi bash | 21:30 |
| TimmyT | e | 21:30 |
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| TimmyT | when i try to install sum apps like smplayer or extra decoders or nano-opt , it says that sum dependencies are missed and are not available in the repository? what is this? :D how to fix it? is there any hidden key to install apps from maemo's repository? | 21:34 |
| jacekowski | there are like 3 repositories on maemo.org | 21:35 |
| jacekowski | + loads of private repositiories | 21:35 |
| TimmyT | jacekowski: i only have extra fremantle-1.3, wat are other things? | 21:37 |
| jacekowski | extras testing | 21:38 |
| jacekowski | and devel | 21:38 |
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| TimmyT | jacekowski: so are u saying those dependencies are available in testing and devel repos? | 21:39 |
| TimmyT | jacekowski: i promise it is my latest silly question im asking u | 21:43 |
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| jacekowski | some are | 21:46 |
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| DocScrutinizer | DONT_PANIC! :-D http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1061232 | 22:05 |
| ruskie | I thought there was some app in the repos for managing bootmenus | 22:08 |
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| ludens | anyone here knows anything about the offline caching patch for modest in CSSU | 22:10 |
| ludens | ? | 22:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ruskie: err, managing bootmenus? | 22:10 |
| ruskie | erm bootvids even | 22:11 |
| ludens | im asking cos i just saw this http://forums.internettablettalk.com/showthread.php?s=35a18607e31620b9cfc1477f3001b6bb&t=55771&page=4 | 22:12 |
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| ruskie | DocScrutinizer, btw wrt to that cron job... you could just have fcron on the n900 and run the job that way? | 22:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | which cron job? | 22:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | the backup-cronjob that runs on my PC? no, I can't, as that would mean N900 knows how to log in to my home IT, without me entering the password. And that's sth I definitely never will do | 22:16 |
| ruskie | ahh | 22:17 |
| ludens | so... cssu has apparently had a modest patch added recently. but my apt says my modest is the latest version. what do i do to get this patched version? | 22:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | install CSSU? | 22:19 |
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| ludens | i have it already...? | 22:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | or simply get and dpkg -i the .deb | 22:19 |
| ludens | yeah but the .deb by the developer is not the same as the .deb for cssu, but i cant find anything about modest at the cssu website... | 22:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAM will automatically pull updates from CSSU repo, so check if there are updates available in HAM | 22:20 |
| ludens | ahhh | 22:21 |
| ludens | thanks! | 22:21 |
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| Shapeshifter | DocScrutinizer: why the don't panic video? is it some sort of meme? | 22:21 |
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| ludens | DocScrutinizer51: sorry, ive already checked HAM for updates | 22:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~42 | 22:23 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything | 22:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything#Don.27t_Panic | 22:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | >>DON'T PANIC (always upper-case) is a phrase written on the cover of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.[31] The novel explains that this was partly because the device "looked insanely complicated" to operate, and partly to keep intergalactic travelers from panicking.[32] It is said that despite its many glaring (and occasionally fatal) inaccuracies, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy itself has outsold the Encyclopedia Galactica | 22:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | because it is slightly cheaper, and because it has the words "DON'T PANIC" in large, friendly letters on the cover<< | 22:26 |
| Shapeshifter | yeah I read that | 22:26 |
| ludens | should i do some kind of new install of cssu? | 22:26 |
| Gh0sty | is there actually a way to rotate the screen to unlock the phone (lock code screen) | 22:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ask MohammadAG | 22:28 |
| Gh0sty | trying and typing that one 1 handed is difficult when holding it upright :/ | 22:28 |
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| ludens | hm reading the cssu changelog the patch doesnt seem to have been implemented at all. so problem solved | 22:29 |
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| Kukiz23 | hello | 22:35 |
| Kukiz23 | what is best game for n900? | 22:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the one you're playing the most | 22:38 |
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| Kukiz23 | the one? | 22:40 |
| vi__ | ? | 22:43 |
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| Kukiz23 | i ask for best game for n900 | 22:47 |
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| vi__ | it is unethack | 22:49 |
| ludens | do i need to uninstall CSSU before i can switch to the testing version? | 22:49 |
| ludens | HAM says 'CSSU is already installed' | 22:49 |
| vi__ | ludens: there is only the tsting version | 22:50 |
| ludens | orly | 22:50 |
| ludens | :) | 22:50 |
| vi__ | rly | 22:50 |
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| ludens | well then i am very congfused | 22:52 |
| ludens | ill ask in #maemo-ssu | 22:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ruskie: I actually don't care about any app to manage bootvideos, it's not like I change them 5 times a day. I'm not even booting 5 times a month. And for sure I wouldn't want to explain how to use that app to get "my" DONT_PANIC movie installed and running | 22:59 |
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| vi__ | don't boot videos just increase boot time? | 23:02 |
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| SpeedEvil | Not by the length of the video | 23:03 |
| SpeedEvil | Simply as other stuff happens in the background. | 23:03 |
| SpeedEvil | It is additional CPU though | 23:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | a bit | 23:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | as that's mostly DSP/GFX | 23:04 |
| SpeedEvil | Very little in the case if the DSP is used. | 23:04 |
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| Shapeshifter | what the tmo mods should do is some parenting for all the chaotic users. every app should be in the bug tracker for example. then, if someone 'complains about something not working' the post should be deleted and a note dropped that this belongs on the bug tracker. feature requests, too. Then, everytime someone writes a guide and posts it on the forum, it should be moved to a new wiki page and deleted. | 23:36 |
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| ShadowJK | Actually most of them are too incoherent for bugtrackers | 23:39 |
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