IRC log of #maemo for Monday, 2011-07-25

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MohammadAGjacekowski, mind helping out with setting up a builder tomorrow?00:30
MohammadAGI want something similar to extras-devel for Harmattan, and no one seems to want to provide that00:31
MohammadAGOBS fails to do the same00:31
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TronicMohammadAG: There is a community repository for Harmattan.00:49
MohammadAGOBS? sure, it'll result in duplicate work00:49
Tronichttp://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=26335#post2633500:50
MohammadAGthat's OBS00:50
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ShapeshifterDoes someone know how to refresh qtlockscreen after editing the ini file?00:56
MohammadAGkill it I guess?00:56
Shapeshiftermh. that works00:56
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Shapeshifterhttp://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1408/sam0726r.jpg :<01:08
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BCMMShapeshifter: i am confused.01:12
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jacekowskiMohammadAG: isn't harmattan rpm based?01:16
MohammadAGjacekowski, nope01:16
MohammadAGMeeGo is, Harmattan isn't01:17
jacekowskiisn't that same thing01:17
MohammadAGto the media, sure01:18
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MohammadAGHarmattan is Maemo 601:18
jacekowskiare there any devices with maemo 6?01:18
MohammadAGN950 and N901:18
jacekowskioO01:18
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jacekowskii've heard these were supposed to be meego01:18
MohammadAGthey're compatible with MeeGo 1.2's API01:19
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jacekowskiis N9 available?01:19
MohammadAGbut they're a bit distant from MeeGo01:19
MohammadAGno01:19
MohammadAGwell, for certain Nokians, yes01:19
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jacekowskiebay is already full of N9 things01:19
jacekowskicases and stuff01:20
MohammadAGheh01:21
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MohammadAGX-Fade, #harmattan01:22
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ShapeshifterBCMM: apparently, some chinese are selling replacement cases for the n900. in white.01:28
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divanhi all02:00
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* divan finally got N950. Even three ones =)02:00
macmaNdivan: who did you rob02:00
divanMacer, :) Just helped Nokia to transfer devices to other country due to problems with DHL02:02
macmaNoh, and you took a cut of a few devices02:02
divanTomorrow I will give two of them to local Nokia representatives02:02
macmaNsmart!02:02
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divanOh, I see #harmattan channel is created. Sorry for flood.02:03
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macmaNyeah thats where the cool kids hang02:06
MohammadAGyou could help me of course :P02:06
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trxdivan which country?02:08
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divantrx, from Russia to Ukraine. They delivered devkits for Ukraine via Russian office. I was in Moscow today, so agreed to help with transfer.02:33
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trxoh02:34
trxthey told me that they will send my n950 via Russia02:34
trxi am in Serbia02:34
trxUkraine and Hungary are in between02:35
trxmaybe its mine, maybe not..02:35
divantrx, I didn't asked. They received a bunch of devkits last friday, and will send then further this week with DHL.02:36
divantrx, or in other way for Serbia, don't know for sure.02:36
trxnever the less, thank you very much for this info02:36
trxi now know i should expect it this week02:37
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trxon the developer.nokia.com page status changed to device sent on 11.02:37
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MohammadAGstill New order for me02:38
trxso i stayed at home as much as i could :)02:38
divantrx, I can give you the contact for responsible person in Nokia Russia. They are concerned about how to deliver it as well, so perhaps if you contact him personally, it'll speed up things for everyone.02:38
trxMohammadAG some people have said that they recieved their device with that status02:38
trxso maybe you are one of them02:38
* divan still has 'Device sent to customer' status :)02:39
MohammadAGtrx, that'd be bad, for me at least02:39
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divanMohammadAG, try to contact your local representatives.02:40
trxdivan well that would be nice, but i dont know if i should contact them, would that be appropriate?02:40
MohammadAGdivan, what representatives?02:40
trxMohammadAG have you contacted the DDP?02:40
MohammadAGNokia Israel? that doesn't exist02:40
MohammadAGtrx, yes, standard answer + apology02:40
divanMohammadAG, oh.. So yours is sent by DHL?02:40
trxthe thing is02:41
MohammadAGit's still New Order02:41
trxwe have DHL in serbia in several cities02:41
MohammadAGI got my second N900 DDP via DHL02:41
trxand in my town i see their trucks all the time02:41
divanMohammadAG, they preparing your device to have lates builds, I guess :)02:41
trxbut they must send it via russia... that i dont understand..02:41
divantrx, he is pretty open person so don't hesistate to ask him. Sent mail in pm.02:42
trxthank you02:43
trxi'll send him a mail in the morning02:43
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MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, indeed, forgot I was on #harmattan03:17
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Termanagood morning04:36
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DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: still awake?04:59
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Macerso is nokia going to sell any n950s?06:55
jierono. you have to sign a petition for it and hope more than 1 million people respond06:57
cehtehhaha06:58
cehtehand then for 1200Eur06:58
Macerhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/230795/nokia_n9_why_you_shouldnt_buy_this_device.html07:02
Macerhahaha07:02
Macerleave it to  pcworld to say "wait for windows"07:02
Macerwhich they are probably right but still07:02
Macerugh i just wish they had a qwerty on the n907:06
Maceri hate nokia so much07:06
Macerthey are the oracle of the phone business07:06
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DocScrutinizerwell, given the lifespan of the arbitrary android OS on a phone, which is 6..18 months until support gets binned and no more updates, I'd not worry about N9 being any worse wrt that07:09
DocScrutinizerwinP7 won't be any better I guess - actually for those winCE phones I never heard of updates07:09
jieroeven oracle do something good, I know they donate Liberation Sans Narrow font.07:11
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cehtehi wonder how nokia comes to the idea anyone would buy a phone just because it is a nokia :)07:38
cehtehmay work with apple ... but well ..07:38
DocScrutinizeryeah, a me-too iPhone-mockup isn't exactly what I'd expect to fly, just because of Nokia printed on the backside07:39
DocScrutinizerbut then, at least Trollop definitely isn't interested in this thing to become a success story07:40
DocScrutinizerthe whole N9 feels like "we promised it, so here you got it. Now let's get rid of the whole thing ASAP", from first announcement to latest statements about developer support07:42
DocScrutinizerto Nokia firing the whole in house competence of maemo/meego07:43
cehtehmeanwhile there are enough people fired from nokia to create a new enterprise in the smartphone market .. why didnt they gathered together doing right that? ...07:46
DocScrutinizermissing capital?07:47
DocScrutinizeralso AIUI mainly sw engineers07:47
cehtehdunno what did the leaving managers got for leaving?07:47
DocScrutinizerI don't think Nokia is massively cutting down on the EE07:47
cehtehmaybe .. well j/k anyways07:47
cehtehwell soon they will07:48
DocScrutinizeryeah07:48
cehtehafter failing with wp7 and becoming a pennystock07:48
cehtehbut well .. M$ will buy them, if not oracle07:48
DocScrutinizerOTOH what do they sell per day? in units/money turn-over? 1mio/100mio?07:49
cehtehits a bit conspiratory .. but i think a lot people believe that elop is just there to make the swallowing cheaper07:49
fusigrrr07:49
fusitryin 2 watch an mkv with subs07:49
fusigrr07:50
cehtehmplayer?07:50
fusipita07:50
fusiooh?07:50
fusiah07:50
fusiye07:50
cehtehif nothing works, mplayer works :P ..07:50
fusibut i suck at figuring out the command line options07:50
cehteh(but not always)07:50
fusi:'(07:50
fusiyer it does play it07:50
cehtehmplayer -fs foo.mkv07:51
fusiooh07:51
fusiill try07:51
fusi2secs07:51
cehteh-fs == fullscreen07:51
cehtehsometimes it stucks at the begin you have to nudge it with the arror keys07:51
cehteharrow07:51
fusiarg07:52
fusi[lavf] Subtitle stream found, -sid 007:52
cehtehwell and the n900 cant play above a certain size (screen size?) ... anyways if your video is to big you have to reencode it scaled down07:52
fusiit can see the stream07:52
fusibut no subs D:07:52
cehtehok rtfm then :)07:53
fusiyer i read all that stuff07:53
fusihrhr07:53
fusiits 707x464 ^^07:53
cehtehshould work07:54
fusiframerate is fine07:55
fusiaudio sync is good07:55
fusijust no dam subs07:55
fusimy japanese aint that great07:55
fusihttp://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/subosd.html07:57
fusicant see anything there bout embedded substreams :?07:57
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fusimm07:58
fusigonna find a gui07:58
fusimight have it all sorted07:58
fusigrrr07:58
fusitranscoding with handbrake to mp4 container07:59
fusitellin it to burn in the subs07:59
fusiand the bloody thing07:59
fusicompletely ignoring me :(07:59
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slonopotamussystem settings -> profiles has nicely looking checkboxes with labels. how to make them?08:01
fusihmm08:01
MohammadAGslonopotamus, MTF?08:02
slonopotamuswtf mtf?08:03
MohammadAGMeeGo Touch Framework08:03
MohammadAGI assume you're 5alki"g a\ou5 the N95008:03
slonopotamusMohammadAG: wrong chan, man08:03
MohammadAGtalking about*, fuck my borked SGX08:03
slonopotamusmaemo5.08:04
DocScrutinizerSGX?08:04
slonopotamusif i meant meego, i'd ask in #meego08:04
MohammadAGslonopotamus, it's called settings, not system settings then08:05
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, Hardware r3cov3ry 5riggered08:05
MohammadAGI'm not trying to be leet, that's hildon input method08:05
DocScrutinizerhehehe08:05
slonopotamusMohammadAG: it's called Параметры if you go to that level of exactness.08:05
fusiyay08:06
fusi-sid0 param \o/08:06
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slonopotamusw/e, i want a checkbox + label where both of them are clickable and have maemo-style border around08:07
MohammadAGQCheckBox08:07
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slonopotamusMohammadAG: as useful as saying "Gtk"08:08
MohammadAGyou got a problem with people helping you?08:09
MohammadAGhildon_check_button, have fun08:09
MohammadAGhildon_check_button_new is what the .so references08:10
slonopotamusmaybe didn't have enough morning coffee :) thanks, will look at it08:12
MohammadAGyou can find an example here http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-applet-notificationlight08:14
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ashwinipatankarI am trying to compile a c code on maemo (n900) and getting this error "timerfd.h not found" any idea which package will remove the problem ?10:04
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adun153quick question: can I just install armel packages from Debian repositories or is maemo 5 incompatible with the debian packages?11:41
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MohammadAGX-Fade, ping11:54
X-FadeMohammadAG: pong11:54
MohammadAGX-Fade, I can't log into OBS11:54
MohammadAGlogging into meego.com seems fine11:54
X-FadeMohammadAG: Ok, will check.11:56
MohammadAGX-Fade, can you just reset the password?11:56
jonwilcan someone with ssh access to their n900 Fremantle run sysinfo-tool -g /certs/ccc/pp/wlan-channel and give me the results as well as what country/part of the world you are in? (specifically looking for someone from Europe)11:56
X-FadeMohammadAG: It uses the meego.com account data.11:57
MohammadAGdockane_,11:57
MohammadAGerr, sorry11:57
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer11:57
MohammadAGNokia-N900:~# cat /sys/class/leds/lp5523\:g/led_current11:57
MohammadAG4711:57
MohammadAGX-Fade, just changed the password (to the same pass), still can't login11:58
X-FadeMohammadAG: Why did you do that? :)11:58
X-FadeMohammadAG: Just to mess it up a bit more?11:58
MohammadAGX-Fade, yes :P12:00
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MohammadAGjonwil, fcc/us for both devices12:02
MohammadAGone from Europe and one from the US12:03
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jonwilbut what country are the devices physically located in?12:05
jonwilAs thats what affects that key AFAIK12:06
MohammadAGjonwil, Israel12:06
jonwilok, israel must use FCC standards for wifi then12:06
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jonwilrather than EU12:06
jonwilor otherwise12:06
jonwil.au also uses fcc12:07
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khertanMorning12:29
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jonwiltime to see how sysinfo gets the value of /certs/ccc/pp/wlan-channel12:43
jonwiland whether that value is fixed to the device data (cal) or set based on the device location12:43
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jonwilbah, my linux box has to do a fsck12:47
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Shapeshifterno arp; how does the n900 establish the mac of an ip?13:52
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Shapeshifterwell at least there's iputils-arping13:53
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ShadowJKwhat do you mean no arp?13:58
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ShapeshifterShadowJK: the tool, arp, I don't think it's available on my n90014:07
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ShadowJKit's not needed for normal use14:08
ShapeshifterShadowJK: yeah, no problem. got arping now14:09
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SpeedEvillardman: Can the url submission thing of mbarcode deal with proxy URLs?14:14
SpeedEvilproxy servers14:14
lardmanSpeedEvil: can you give me an example?14:14
lardmanI'd have thought the proxy is handled by the browser14:15
SpeedEvilSorry - a server behing a proxy - I need to configure a http proxy to get to it14:15
SpeedEvilah - right - of course. Sorry ofr being stupid.14:15
lardmanno that's ok14:15
SpeedEvilMore coffee.14:15
lardman:)14:15
lardmanI know that feeling :)14:15
SpeedEvilI'm trying to get rid of my books.14:15
SpeedEvilI have ~6K to list on amazon14:16
lardmanwow, I've just finished unpacking my ~50 boxes of books14:16
SpeedEvilYeah - well...14:16
lardmanI can feel the floor sagging in my study14:16
SpeedEvilI had a cheap secon-hand bookshop nearby.14:16
lardmansame here :)14:16
SpeedEvilI would typically go in every other week, and get every SF/fantasy book he had that I hadn't already got.14:17
* lardman thinks that perhaps a library membership would be a good idea14:17
lardmanI collect reference books14:17
SpeedEvilIt ended up at one point that I could go into a small bookshop to the SF section, and have 90% of the titles.14:17
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lardmanI have the problem that I don't remember which I have14:17
lardmanhence the cursing model view for a N9x0 db to take around with me14:18
SpeedEvilYou should see if there is a unique identifier that could be recognised in some means on them. :)14:18
lardman;)14:18
lardmanI started writing this code a couple of years ago and have never found the time to finish it14:18
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lardmanthough my motivation dropped while we were selling and I was told to not buy more to clutter up the flat14:19
SpeedEvilmodel=modal?14:19
lardmanmodel-view14:19
lardmantables and qsql stuff14:19
SpeedEvilOh - right - vague bells ring.14:19
lardmanI'm sure it's all very simple, but there are just so many different classes14:19
lardmanI feel that it might be faster to write my own flat text file "db" handler classes14:20
SpeedEvil:)14:20
lardmanThe Qt docs are sadly lacking in exaplanations of where and why to use different components14:20
lcuklardman, the thing with flat file databases: you can easily improve over sqlite and stuff14:20
lcukbut then later when you want to do more advanced processing and stuff14:21
lardmanlcuk: yeah I know, it's just frustration talking14:21
lcukhaving a real queryable database helps immensely14:21
lcuklardman, i had to ponder similar with the tagging of sketches14:21
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lardmandid you find any good example codes?14:22
SpeedEvilOooh! Sketches tagged by barcode14:22
SpeedEvilsexy14:22
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lcuklardman, not really it was nothing as simple as adodb14:23
lcukI asked about database classes in Qt14:24
lcukand was hoping fiferboy would know14:24
lardmanThe classes are very complex, for good reason no doubt, but it's a shame someone who knows why doesn't explain why14:24
fralsqsql?14:24
lardmanyeah14:25
lardmansilly stuff like working out which record is selected from a qcomboview14:25
lardmanor is that qcombolist14:25
fralso_O14:25
* frals is happy most of the stuff we expose is wrapped in a nice QAbstractListModel wrapper14:26
fralswe == current project im in14:26
lardmanand things like display item, etc14:26
lardmanwhy would one even want that in a db view, etc14:26
hanning1is there a simple way to get the current item played in the mediaplayer from terminal? i already found the corresponding dbus entry, using a dbus viewer14:29
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trumee~ping15:21
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psychologehello ,i upgrade nmap to 5.59,but when i run:nmap 198.168.0.1-255,it suggent route_dst_netlink: can't find interface "wlan0",,,,,,,how to downgrade nmap to old version?15:32
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adun153quick question: can I just install armel packages from Debian repositories or is maemo 5 incompatible with the debian packages?16:14
jacekowskiincompatible16:16
jacekowskimaemo has not much common with debian16:16
jacekowskipretty much only common thing is package naming and package manager16:16
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Corsacwell, it depends, simple packages might work directly16:17
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adun153oh, ok. thanks much.16:50
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DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: LED:g/current 47, so what?17:08
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DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: you know these are units of 0.1mA?17:15
DocScrutinizerthough mine is 2 here17:16
DocScrutinizerbut 47 is probably safe and not very concerning17:16
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pavisomeone here suggested me a gallery2 plugin18:16
paviI am also facing a similar problem like https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=4918&group_id=1114&atid=418018:16
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* fusi will now overheat the cpus18:50
fusiwish handbrake had a throttle18:51
fusineed to replace my hsf, pretty sure the thermal gunk has died18:51
fusiidling at 60c :<18:51
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DocScrutinizerfusi: don't OC and you should be just fine with CPU temperature18:56
fusiDocScrutinizer: this is one of my desktop machines :p18:56
fusitehe18:56
DocScrutinizernot though when your laptop invented a new fibre+plastics hybrid material and clogged the fan with it ;-D18:57
fusihehe18:57
DocScrutinizermine throttled at ~100°C CPU temperature18:57
DocScrutinizerwhen that happened18:57
fusimy bios is set to hard power off over 80c iirc18:58
fusidont rly wanna reboot in order to change it :p18:58
DocScrutinizeryou probably shouldn't either18:58
fusithis cpu throttles too but at a temp higher than 8018:58
fusi<- q955018:58
DocScrutinizer:-/18:58
fusitjmax == 100c iirc18:59
fusishocking stock cooler D:18:59
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fusimight get one of those flower coolers19:03
fusizalman jobby19:04
fusithing is tho19:04
fusithis is an x48 board19:04
fusiand the northbridge has this f-off huge heatsink on it19:04
fusigot a feelin itll get in the way19:04
fusihmm19:04
fralswhich board you got?19:04
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fusilanparty x4819:04
fusidfi19:04
fralsok19:05
fusiT2R iirc19:05
fralsi put a thermaltake ultra extreme or whatever its called on my q9550, works pretty good19:05
fusihttp://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.borsaplazma.com/images/LP%2520UT%2520X48-T2R2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.borsaplazma.com/popup_image.php/pID/4186%3FosCsid%3Dc383c949122b8ea5ce9e5bd9218ab39a&h=574&w=600&sz=178&tbnid=Cv4HBZDvSkfWUM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=94&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddfi%2Blanparty%2Bx48%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=dfi+lanparty+x48&docid=lbOcLPlfUEmhiM&sa=X&ei=K5QtTqj7CojE8QPf0r2GDA&ved=0CGwQ9QEwCg&dur=18819:05
fusiooh blimey thats a big link19:05
fusisoz19:05
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fusi thermaltake ultra extreme19:05
fusimmk ta ill look into it19:06
fralsits a huge mofo thou19:06
fusithey all are these days :)19:06
fralsdunno how it performs for oc, bought it for a silent rig19:06
fusii dont oc this box19:06
fusidont need to ^^19:06
fusi:p19:06
fralsgot a noctua 800rpm on it and its below ambient noise in my room19:06
fusinice19:07
fusii bought an antec p180 case19:07
fusiits not great on the noise19:07
fralsbut i recon either that or the cpu cover isnt really flat, 2 cores idle at 50 and the other 2 at 4519:07
fusimm19:07
fralsgot a p182, replaced the stock fans with noctuas and its good enough for me19:07
fusiwhen i first built this, i had idle temps around the 40's with stock cooler19:07
fusihas got progressively worse over time ^^19:08
fralsbut my wd velociraptor is kinda loud now ;(19:08
fralshehe19:08
fusieep19:08
fusioh sorry igve got a p182 too19:08
fusithought it was a p180 ^^19:08
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fralsthis heatsink is a pretty tight fit in this case thou19:09
fusijust got those three fans that came with it19:09
fralspretty thight as in 1-2mm clearance to the sidepanel19:09
frals:D19:09
fusiwaaay too loud19:09
fusilool19:09
fusithat is ahem .. quite large19:09
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fralshttp://www.overclockersonline.net/images/articles/thermalright/120extreme/large/install12.jpg19:09
fusihaha19:10
fralsya its pretty huge19:10
frals;)19:10
fusiu know that might actually work19:10
fusilooks like its got some decent clearance19:10
fralsfirst time i moved my case i was kinda scared about the weight of the thing19:10
fusirip ur cpu out its socket hrhr19:10
fusiD':19:10
fralsya ;D19:10
fusiwhat gets me19:11
fusiis the force you need to press down with on these stock coolers19:11
fusifeels like ur gonna snap the pcb >.<19:11
fralsyeah19:11
fusiso im looking for one with a back bracket19:11
fusithat sorta screws in if u know what i mean19:11
fusiwill be a pita to install im sure, will have to take the mobo ut the case19:12
fralsyeah19:12
fusiho hum19:12
fralscant remember if this got it but think so19:12
fusii reckon it will19:12
fusiam reading up on it now19:12
fusiits too big not to :)19:12
fusianyways im off for a bit19:12
fusithanks for the advice :)19:12
fralsnp :)19:13
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ShapeshifterIs there a way of exporting the sent mail from modest?19:41
Shapeshifterto thunderbird for example19:41
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DocScrutinizernothing obvious20:07
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DocScrutinizerShapeshifter: /home/user/.modest/cache/mail/pop/*/* seems a location worth looking at20:14
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DocScrutinizerthere's also a .modest/ on /media/mmc120:22
DocScrutinizerbut tbh I don't really get it where mails are supposed to be stored20:23
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DocScrutinizerShapeshifter: in backups of back app (MyDocs/backup/*) there's a comm_and_cal.zip, it has a .modest-backup.tar.gz, this for sure should have all the data you want20:30
DocScrutinizeractually it backups the .modest/cache/mail/pop/ branch as mentioned/suggested above20:31
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fusigrr20:46
fusimy maemosdk image isnt booting20:46
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fusibah20:55
fusireverted to a snapshot20:55
fusisux20:55
* fusi strokes vmware lovingly20:55
* fusi fires up esbox20:56
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kerio...y u no use vbox21:03
fusino particular reason21:04
fusihaving a vmware license swings it a bit..21:05
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OkropNickwhat is device name of micro sd card?21:11
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OkropNicki don't know why, but it is not mounting automaticaly anymore21:11
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NIN101mmcblk1 is the microsd, mmcblk1p1 is the first partition of the microsd OkropNick inside maemo.21:14
OkropNickNIN101: thanks21:14
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fusihtf do i add a preexisting src file to a project in eclipse21:19
fusicant find a menu option anywhere and dragging it does sweet fa21:19
fusi>:|21:19
fusibah ill just edit the project file manually21:19
fusibah21:19
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crashanddiefusi: import?21:20
fusiaha21:21
fusithanks21:21
fusims background21:21
fusiall my semantics are wrong21:21
fusi:/21:21
fusiyay 'from filessystem'21:21
OkropNickmy N900 can't see micro sd card anymore. it was taken out of the device oly once. all connectors are clean and looks fine. any ideas? can it be software problem?21:23
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fusihave you put it back in? ^^21:24
OkropNickof course :) even few times21:24
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fusirebooted?21:24
OkropNickit is needed to rebot?21:25
fusiafaik sometimes it can get corrupted21:25
OkropNick*reboot21:25
fusiand it borks itself - a reboot afaik auto fixes it21:25
OkropNickok, I'll try21:25
fusiusually the first thing to try tbh anyway21:25
crashanddieOkropNick: what does dmesg say?21:27
OkropNicknothing about it21:27
crashanddieOkropNick: also, you have to close the backcover AFAIR21:27
OkropNickno, i have not closed it21:27
crashanddiethen close it.21:27
fusiaha21:27
fusiyer theres a magnetic sensor that dismounts it when the back is off21:28
OkropNickmmm, I'll try21:28
fusi(nice touch i thought :p)21:28
crashanddiewell, kinda required.21:28
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fusimy prev htc handsets never did that21:29
crashanddieKnowing how sketchy filesystems handle being pulled out without warning.21:29
fusibut then again they were scummy htc handserts ;D21:29
fusiyep, had loads of corruptions21:29
crashanddieAnd they also probably didn't allow ext2/3 filesystems on their sdcards.21:29
fusiheheh21:29
fusiof course not!21:30
fusiooooh21:30
fusii cant start ranting21:30
fusigot work to do!21:30
OkropNickyeah, it is working again, thatks all!21:31
fusiyay21:31
fusipossible to compile individual translation units in esbox? without building the whole thing?21:33
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fusii give up with gui's on linux21:34
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fusianyone know where libtool is installed in the maemosdk image?22:33
fusiaint in /usr/local/bin/libtool22:33
MohammadAGdpkg -S libtool22:33
fusidpkg -S libtool22:34
fusioops22:34
fusita22:34
fusiahaa useful command22:34
fusithanks22:34
MohammadAGyw22:34
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fusilibtool: link: only absolute run-paths are allowed22:39
fusii needa break22:39
fusio/22:39
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Palihello, is there any way how to set correct LMD/ILMD values on bq27200 chip?23:07
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PaliAnd why BME reports other battery status (not same as bq modules/script)?23:12
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SpeedEvilB) no, you can't fix that23:14
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SpeedEvilILMD you can't set without possibly desoldering the chip and adding a 18V programming pulse23:14
SpeedEvilLMD you set by charging it all the way, then stopping BME partway through the discharge23:15
SpeedEvilThis learns the LMD towards the real capacity in steps of 1/8th of maximum, so you amy need several steps23:15
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DocScrutinizerand once you remove the batery it resets to ILMD ;-P23:16
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DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: iirc you *could* program the chip in-circuit. No need to unsolder23:17
DocScrutinizerall relevant pins are NC and reachable23:18
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SpeedEvilah23:25
SpeedEvilBut if you're writing your own thingy, you don't really need any of it.23:26
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DocScrutinizersure, the relative values are always correct23:26
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DocScrutinizerthe deltas23:26
DocScrutinizeralso abolute current and voltage23:27
SpeedEvilAs it discharges through 3428mV, it resets the available capacity. You look at the jump when this happens, then subtract this from the AC23:27
SpeedEvilNAC23:27
SpeedEvilThen remember this figure as the new capacity23:27
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DocScrutinizerkinda, yes23:27
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MohammadAGX-Fade, any progress on my OBS account?23:35
X-FadeMohammadAG: It should just work?23:36
MohammadAGX-Fade, but isn't?23:36
MohammadAGor doesn't, sounds better23:37
X-FadeMohammadAG: Does web login work?23:37
MohammadAGno, that's what I'm logging in through23:37
X-FadeMohammadAG: And your ocs client works?23:37
X-FadeMohammadAG: Ehm osc :)23:38
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X-FadeMohammadAG: What is your username there?23:39
X-FadeMohammadAG: Ah, I see it already.23:40
MohammadAGhttp://liveprofile.com/ lol @ No battery usage23:42
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X-FadeMohammadAG: Can't see anything wrong. It works for everybody but you :)23:46
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MohammadAGX-Fade, yay23:51
X-FadeMohammadAG: You are using the right account?23:51
X-FadeMohammadAG: Can you try to login now?23:53
PaliSpeedEvil: My battery was totaly discharged and I charged it in external charger DT-33 Then bq report LMD=0 and ILMD=205623:54
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DocScrutinizeryes, that's expected23:54
PaliAnd now bq report other percentage as bme23:54
DocScrutinizeryes, that's also expected23:55
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Paliand now (after 3-4 recharges) is LMD=191423:56
DocScrutinizerif your battery is ok, then it will be empty when bq27200 shows ~40% remaining23:56
Palishould be23:56
DocScrutinizer~2056/8*723:56
infobot179923:56
DocScrutinizerhmm23:57
Palibut why?23:57
MohammadAGX-Fade, authentication failed23:57
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DocScrutinizerPali: that's the way the battery gauge chip bq27200 works23:57
X-FadeMohammadAG: You are loging in to build.pub.meego.com, right?23:57
MohammadAGerr, no, http://build.meego.com23:58
X-FadeMohammadAG: So you are telling me you really need more coffee? :)23:58
DocScrutinizerlol23:58
MohammadAGI don't drink coffee, that's the site I used to log into 4 months ago :P23:58
X-FadeMohammadAG: No way.23:59
X-FadeMohammadAG: That is the core obs, not the community one.23:59
MohammadAGmy login details are saved23:59
MohammadAGyeah23:59
MohammadAGI'm pretty sure lbt activated my account there23:59
X-FadeMohammadAG: Then why do I see you here: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Amohammad741023:59

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