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| pupnik | "your silence will not protect you" - Audre Lorde | 00:20 |
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| newbie007 | will x11vnc allow me to remote desktop into my maemo from another linux box. I want to go from a nook color running honeycomb into a maemo so as to control a n900 from a nook color over wifi? | 01:05 |
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| pupnik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzLC1lVWDSk "Poker Face" played on giant tesla coils | 01:08 |
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| n900-stuff | hi all | 01:10 |
| n900-stuff | can anyone please look at this http://pastebin.com/XHrtsukH | 01:10 |
| newbie007 | pupnik: seems like a face to me | 01:10 |
| newbie007 | *fake | 01:10 |
| n900-stuff | i try to run the sdk maemo emulator but i get this output and nothing shows up .. no emulator | 01:10 |
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| pupnik | newbie007: you can't get the exact n900 experience over a network because the n900 uses openglES compositing to display | 01:11 |
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| pupnik | there is a project to do networked opengl windowmanagement somewhere iirc | 01:12 |
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| pupnik | n900-stuff: checking.. | 01:12 |
| n900-stuff | thanks pupnik | 01:12 |
| newbie007 | pupnik: huh, thanks. The closest I found was gmote-server | 01:12 |
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| pupnik | n900-stuff: not sure, i'd delete the -kb from start_xephyr.sh (after backing it up) and try that | 01:15 |
| n900-stuff | whats a -kb | 01:15 |
| pupnik | an old flag to xephyr that's no longer supported | 01:15 |
| pupnik | Xephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 800x480x16 -dpi 96 -ac & | 01:16 |
| n900-stuff | this is the ubuntu pc on which i installed the sdk | 01:16 |
| n900-stuff | i run the vm of sdk on windows which works fine .. but thats so slow for me | 01:17 |
| pupnik | use google with the error message, add "scratchbox" | 01:17 |
| n900-stuff | things compile and build fine though | 01:17 |
| n900-stuff | yea i have | 01:17 |
| n900-stuff | will do more | 01:17 |
| n900-stuff | first there was something like installation of HALD | 01:17 |
| n900-stuff | and i installed it | 01:17 |
| n900-stuff | but the output remained the same | 01:17 |
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| n900-stuff | :O | 01:19 |
| n900-stuff | pupnik: | 01:19 |
| n900-stuff | it worked! | 01:19 |
| pupnik | :D | 01:19 |
| n900-stuff | removed the -kb | 01:20 |
| n900-stuff | this should go to the wiki | 01:20 |
| n900-stuff | hehe | 01:20 |
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| n900-stuff | ok thanks | 01:21 |
| n900-stuff | i'll go sleep | 01:21 |
| n900-stuff | \o | 01:21 |
| pupnik | o/ | 01:21 |
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| pupnik | everybody should get a nokia n900 | 01:29 |
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| pupnik | i just love closeup screenshots, like candy | 01:35 |
| pupnik | http://i.imgur.com/yXkkt.jpg n900 LCD is all 'sparkly' | 01:36 |
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| MohammadAG | that mafw equalizer project's kinda neat | 02:15 |
| MohammadAG | except for the fact that it uses 50% CPU time and stutters like hell | 02:15 |
| MohammadAG | PID PPID USER STAT RSS %MEM %CPU COMMAND | 02:15 |
| MohammadAG | 3086 769 user S 4764 1.9 50.5 /usr/bin/mafw-dbus-wrapper mafw-gst-eq-renderer | 02:15 |
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| MohammadAG | * but probably cause distortion. */ | 02:27 |
| MohammadAG | bah | 02:27 |
| MohammadAG | /* @vol should be between [0 .. 100], higher values (up to 1000) are allowed, | 02:27 |
| MohammadAG | * but probably cause distortion. */ | 02:27 |
| MohammadAG | apparently, mafw can take values higher than 100, they're just disabled elsewhere in the code (if volume > 100 then volume = 100) | 02:28 |
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| mva | "stupid-protection"? :) | 02:31 |
| nox- | it may make sense if something was recorded too low... | 02:33 |
| MohammadAG | * Changed highest resolution for fremantle | 02:39 |
| MohammadAG | lol, explains the 800x480 limit | 02:39 |
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| MohammadAG | * Disable native flags in playbin2 temporarily since this is causing | 02:40 |
| MohammadAG | trouble with some videos. Also, allow videos with resolution | 02:40 |
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| pupnik | sometimes i... feel like i... landed on the... wrong planet | 06:31 |
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| rtyler | pupnik: get back in your spaceship then :) | 06:42 |
| pupnik | soon enough | 06:43 |
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| krayon | hmmm... is there a simple way to open a file with it's default app, via mime from bash or python or something? | 06:49 |
| krayon | https://vcs.maemo.org/svn/pymaemo/wwwold/documentation/python_osso_examples/code/mime/osso_test_mime_open.py <-- doesn't work anymore | 06:49 |
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| pigeon | is there a way to restart X on the n900 without rebooting? | 07:33 |
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| pupnik | pigeon: why? | 07:42 |
| krayon | pigeon: Kill X would do it I would think | 07:43 |
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| pigeon | nope, that reboots it. | 07:45 |
| krayon | I doubt it | 07:45 |
| krayon | type "uptime" in a terminal | 07:45 |
| pigeon | i'm not in r&d mode btw | 07:45 |
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| pigeon | that is definitely a reboot | 07:47 |
| krayon | What does "uptime" return in a terminal | 07:47 |
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| pigeon | up 0:02 | 07:47 |
| pigeon | and the fact that i can see the nokia boot up logo again... | 07:47 |
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| krayon | woah | 07:48 |
| pigeon | i have a feeling with r&d mode it doesn't... | 07:48 |
| krayon | Dunno ... I just tested it myself and you're right, it does reboot. I guess they have init rebooting on X close. | 07:49 |
| krayon | I guess then, you can only restart hildon-desktop etc without causing a reboot but not X :/ | 07:49 |
| krayon | Or change the init scripts | 07:50 |
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| Sazpaimon | is there any way to make the alarm app snooze when it times out during an alarm | 08:16 |
| Sazpaimon | instead of like, shutting off the entire alarm app completely | 08:16 |
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| krayon | Sazpaimon: heh, you'd think that'd be the default way of working wouldn't you :/ | 08:23 |
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| Sazpaimon | krayon, yeah really | 08:58 |
| Sazpaimon | especially when its been on every other nokia phone, not just symbian phones | 08:58 |
| Sazpaimon | maemo is probably the only platform from nokia that diverges from this | 08:59 |
| jacekowski | i just have couple alarms set up every couple minutes | 09:04 |
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| pupnik | krayon: before acting like you know what you're talking about, know what you're talking about | 09:07 |
| jacekowski | krayon: it's not init rebooting | 09:08 |
| jacekowski | krayon: it's dsme watchdog | 09:08 |
| krayon | jacekowski: Yes of course, not exactly like Linux on a server/desktop. | 09:09 |
| jacekowski | krayon: dsme is detecting that critical service is not working and tries to recover | 09:09 |
| jacekowski | krayon: and for X policy is to reboot whole phone | 09:09 |
| jacekowski | there are other apps that are just restarted and if that fails phone is rebooted | 09:09 |
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| krayon | pupnik: My assumption was it was the same as desktop/server ... a mistake I realise but it's just SOOO awesome I forget it's not just a mini desktop :P | 09:10 |
| Sazpaimon | i like how on TMO there's three threads in a row about maemo on the E7 | 09:10 |
| ruskie | hehe | 09:11 |
| Sazpaimon | nevermind the impossibility of that, but the E7 hardwarewise is a significant downgrade of an N900 | 09:11 |
| Sazpaimon | isnt the E7 hardware comperable to the N810 | 09:11 |
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| krayon | jacekowski: I see. Is there a way to modify that? So that X dying would only cause a restart, not full reboot? | 09:12 |
| jacekowski | there is | 09:12 |
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| Venemo_N900 | good morning :) | 10:06 |
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| pupnik | huhu Venemo_N900 | 10:14 |
| Venemo_N900 | hey pupnik | 10:14 |
| pupnik | where is "using gdb to watch and set variables for dummies"? | 10:14 |
| Venemo_N900 | I've no idea | 10:14 |
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| pupnik | what's new Venemo_N900 ? | 10:15 |
| Venemo_N900 | I just use Qt creator's debug functionality | 10:15 |
| pupnik | ahh | 10:15 |
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| Venemo_N900 | pupnik: why would you want a cli tool when you can have a gui solution? | 10:16 |
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| kwtm | Venemo_N900: Interesting. When I found discovered the N900 and the community of advanced users, I thought everyone would be using the CLI. But I see that the culture is more geared toward the GUI. I happen to prefer the CLI myself. | 10:47 |
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| Venemo_N900 | kwtm: there are things that are more efficient on a cli yes | 10:48 |
| Venemo_N900 | kwtm: but there are stuff that are best done in a GUI | 10:48 |
| kwtm | True. I do find I like to automate things (e.g. in a script) and those are easier for me on the CLI, so that's my preference. | 10:48 |
| Venemo_N900 | yeah | 10:48 |
| kwtm | I think part of it is that I've had a bad experience with Nokia's GUI. | 10:49 |
| Venemo_N900 | and I for one prefer apt for updating/installing | 10:49 |
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| Venemo_N900 | but for example, I'd never use wget for browsing web pages | 10:49 |
| kwtm | E.g. using that clumsy PHONE GUI! ugh! You pick a contact ("Yeah, *that's* who I want to dial") and it says "You want to dial? Send SMS? Call with Skype? Call with GOogle VOivce" .... uhhh... | 10:49 |
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| kwtm | Venemo_N900: No, I don't use wget either. I use lynx. Ok, just kidding. I do use Micro-B for that. | 10:50 |
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| kwtm | I actually set up vim to dial phone numbers for me. I've erased almost all of my contacts directory (I've got about a dozen contacts left from the original 2500+) and use vim to dial instead. | 10:50 |
| Venemo_N900 | kwtm :) | 10:50 |
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| Venemo_N900 | lol | 10:51 |
| Venemo_N900 | now that's geekness :P | 10:51 |
| kwtm | Also, when you're on a call, you hear "Press 1 to continue". Ooops, where is the keypad? Oh, press the "keypad" button to bring up the keypad screen. Oh, now I press 1. Oh, it's ringing now and I want to turn off the speakerphone. Where's the speakerphone off button? Oh, I have to close the "keypad" screen. There it is again, the speakerphone button.! | 10:52 |
| kwtm | Venemo_N900: It was the only way to make the phone usable. Otherwise every time I tried to make a call, the phone would freeze for 1-2 seconds. I think it was trying to swap my contact address book in/out. | 10:52 |
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| kwtm | I'm sure if the GUI were as responsive as that of a competitive Apple product, I'd use the GUI instead. But whoever designed the GUI has, shall we say, room for improvement. | 10:53 |
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| Venemo_N900 | hmm | 10:53 |
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| Venemo_N900 | hehehe | 10:53 |
| Venemo_N900 | yeah... | 10:53 |
| beford | the phone gui got faster when I disabled the effects with the CSSU repo/tool | 10:53 |
| Venemo_N900 | well, lock the orientation of the phone gui and it'll be a lot snappier | 10:54 |
| kwtm | Which effects? You mean like the sound effects? I wonder if it's part of it because pulse_audio keep showing up as taking up a frikk'n *18%* of the CPU even when it's doing nothing but making click sounds when I tap the screen. Why are screen taps taking up one sixth of my cpu??? uhhh... | 10:55 |
| Venemo_N900 | yeah, pulse on Maemo is a bit weird | 10:55 |
| kwtm | Venemo_N900: Yeah, I locked it. Phone is only in landscape mode now. I wasn't sure there was a portrait mode lock, but if there was, it's not practical to use. But then the landscape mode has this *weird* keypad layout that changes depending on whether you are just dialing the phone number or when you're in the middle of a call. | 10:56 |
| Venemo_N900 | yeah... lol | 10:58 |
| Venemo_N900 | btw, yes, there is a portrait-mode lock too | 10:59 |
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| Venemo_N900 | anyone here familiar with xlib programming? | 11:26 |
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| kwtm | Venemo_N900: In portrait mode, the status bar is broken (e.g. tapping the clock fails to bring up the whatever-menu-it's-called). | 11:32 |
| Venemo_N900 | kwtm: known bug; fixed in cssu | 11:32 |
| kwtm | That's good news. I did get burned the last time I reflashed (recently) so I want to set up everything correctly before I load CSSU. | 11:33 |
| kwtm | Oh yeah, I'm working on getting "display" to put up a screenshot of the GPS in action. | 11:34 |
| kwtm | You see, where I am it's illegal to send text messages while driving. Although I'm not actually sending text messages (bash programming with vim is hardly text messaging, is it?), if I get pulled over, the police are probably not going to believe me if I say I wasn't text messaging. So I need a boss screen to show that I was actually just checking the GPS to see where I was going. | 11:35 |
| Venemo_N900 | lol. | 11:36 |
| kwtm | I'll probably put on the screen shot some box warning: "Warning: Police are near" or something. | 11:36 |
| Venemo_N900 | well, policemen don't know what bash programming is. | 11:36 |
| Venemo_N900 | xd | 11:36 |
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| djszapi | What is the name of the pdfviewer that I could launch from the command line ? | 11:43 |
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| pupnik | wish i had me a pair of bongos... | 11:52 |
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| robbiethe1st | :D I made over $100 on donations from backupmenu... Over 6 months. | 11:54 |
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| pupnik | how many maemo programs have you donated-to robbiethe1st ? :) | 11:56 |
| robbiethe1st | None, sadly. I don't have a job, either... | 11:56 |
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| robbiethe1st | Seriously, when I manage to get a job and am actually making money in the multi-hundred-dollar+/month... I'll donate to a number of people who deserve it | 11:57 |
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| pupnik | i donated to two | 11:57 |
| derf | Donate code. | 11:57 |
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| liar | has anyone of you seen Damion2 recently? | 13:30 |
| lolloo | movie or game? | 13:30 |
| pupnik | pr cjatter | 13:31 |
| pupnik | h | 13:31 |
| liar | the qemu guy | 13:32 |
| lolloo | liar | 13:32 |
| liar | http://www.bitchx.com/log/maemo-f/maemo-f-05-Feb-2010/maemo-f-05-Feb-2010-08.php | 13:33 |
| lolloo | am not saying ur lying am just calling ur name. | 13:34 |
| liar | that wasn't a reaction to your message ;-) i just wanted to know if someone remembers him^^ lolloo, so why are you calling my name :-P? | 13:36 |
| lolloo | hehe | 13:37 |
| lolloo | sorry just having fun | 13:37 |
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| DocScrutinizer2 | ~seen damion2 | 13:38 |
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| liar | DocScrutinizer: that means? | 13:42 |
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| pupnik | Cancer: "We're the rebel cells! We want mo', mo mo!" | 13:43 |
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| Termana | good morning | 13:54 |
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| liar | or any idea how and if he finally got an x86 chroot running? i've already compiled qemu so it works with my phone. but i have issues with /bin/sh because it cant fork and chroot does not find the x86 /bin/sh altough i am pretty sure its in the right location | 14:01 |
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| pupnik | interesting sentence fragments | 14:04 |
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| liar | pupnik: thanks | 14:05 |
| pupnik | oh i missed part of your preceding text, sorry liar | 14:06 |
| liar | nvm | 14:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | that means there's something really messed up with infobot and freenode | 14:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~seen damion2 | 14:15 |
| apt | damion2 <~damiony@gilmore.trap.me.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 432d 12h 58m 5s ago, saying: 'chun1: I don't know of an app but I think it's technically possible to write that'. | 14:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~+chaninfo | 14:15 |
| apt | I'm on 13 channels: #maemo/390, #wowace/3, #openmoko-cdevel/3, #openmoko/3, #oe/2, #wowuidev/2, #sc2mapster/2, #linuxpakistan/1, #debian-bots/1, #openezx/1, #debian-france/1, #openjtag/1 | 14:15 |
| apt | i've cached 410 users, 405 unique users, distributed over 13 channels. | 14:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~+uptime | 14:16 |
| apt | - Uptime for infobot - | 14:16 |
| apt | Now: 1d 4h 42m 6s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux | 14:16 |
| apt | 1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 2010 | 14:16 |
| apt | 2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 2009 | 14:16 |
| apt | 3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug 4 17:38:59 2009 | 14:16 |
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| OkropNick | Does anybody used it? http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/nokia/nokia-n900/mugen-power-nokia-n900-2400mah-extended-replacement-battery-with-battery-door.html | 14:18 |
| ruskie | orospakr, try searching through tmo... plenty of posts about it | 14:22 |
| ShadowJK | it's nicer to type on thicker N900 | 14:22 |
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| chem|st | MohammadAG: pls come again, can't scroll back that far... (no logs...) | 14:35 |
| chem|st | hey DocScrutinizer | 14:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | hey chem|st | 14:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | chem|st: how to nuke that friggin "bada rocks" tag on all tmo threads that don't mention bada at all? | 14:38 |
| chem|st | erm no nuke but from DB side... afair | 14:39 |
| Termana | Why would you want to do that? Bada rocks! I put that there | 14:39 |
| chem|st | I will have a look | 14:39 |
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| Termana | /sarcasm | 14:39 |
| chem|st | ~punch Termana | 14:39 |
| * apt lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Termana right on the nose | 14:39 | |
| Termana | :p | 14:39 |
| chem|st | ;) | 14:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~botsnack | 14:41 |
| apt | aw, gee, DocScrutinizer | 14:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | chem|st: not that it matters that much - for me the tags could vanish in oblivion, uuterly useless feature | 14:42 |
| chem|st | true | 14:43 |
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| chem|st | SleepAnalyser | 14:44 |
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| chem|st | (442296 downloads) | 14:44 |
| chem|st | wtf? | 14:44 |
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| SpeedEvil | I question some of the download stats. | 14:47 |
| SpeedEvil | They seemed rather broken. | 14:47 |
| chem|st | and how come the KFZcheck-extras is coming that way in extras, missleading things... | 14:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'm worried about infobot | 14:52 |
| robbiethe1st | Hm, would it be wrong to put a "wget http://my-website.com/installCounter.php?ver=1.2" into my program's pre-install shell commands? | 14:53 |
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| robbiethe1st | For, you know, accurately counting installs? | 14:54 |
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| Corsac | robbiethe1st: looks like a huge privacy issue to me | 15:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | Corsac: nevertheless that's what virtually every webpage does with those 1pix tag "images" | 15:04 |
| robbiethe1st | Which gets your IP and any cookies for that site | 15:05 |
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| Corsac | DocScrutinizer: a webpage you're visiting and an application you're installing aren't the same thing for me | 15:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | robbiethe1st: I'd open a decent webpage in browser | 15:06 |
| robbiethe1st | Alright, that sounds like a good idea - And, it'd mean I could show the changelog! | 15:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | exactly | 15:06 |
| robbiethe1st | What's the command for opening a microB window? | 15:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer | check dbus cmds (wiki phonecontrol) | 15:07 |
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| robbiethe1st | Perhaps we should call this the Google approach: Instead of doing something shady and being labled 'evil', roll it into a 'feature'! | 15:07 |
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| ruskie | no into a BETA! | 15:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, there's nothing wrong with that - except best-practice violations for installation | 15:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | but there are packages that are worse (*#-ena for example ;-P) | 15:10 |
| robbiethe1st | Hm, do you know if there's a way to tell if the program's being installed via a graphical utility vs a command line one? Perhaps some X-server variable set? | 15:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | not afaik | 15:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | i2c-tools really bad | 15:10 |
| ruskie | technically you should see DISPLAY in env | 15:11 |
| ruskie | atleast if from a terminal | 15:11 |
| ruskie | wouldn't know if a graphical utility would provide the same info | 15:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | opens a requester *on phone X* you need to accept. Takes a while to notice why your apt-get via wlan-ssh stalls | 15:11 |
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| ruskie | ssh doesn't have DISPLAY set | 15:12 |
| ruskie | even if X is running on whatever | 15:12 |
| robbiethe1st | Yea... In my case, then, I'll just set the webpage to launch and ignore it. Install will continue, and worst case there'll be an extra window around | 15:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | exactly | 15:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | not really clean but bearable | 15:13 |
| BCMM | am i right in saying that all of: the reboot command, certain packages in HAM, and repeatedly killing hildon-desktop can cause reboot but not shutdowns? | 15:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | sigh! [2011-04-18 14:13:29] [Notify] infobot ist offline (irc.freenode.org). | 15:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~ping | 15:14 |
| apt | ~pong | 15:14 |
| chem|st | BCMM: aslong as your battery is alive... | 15:15 |
| chem|st | BCMM: well, packages could do a shutdown | 15:17 |
| chem|st | but for what reason? | 15:17 |
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| chem|st | the watchdog does an emergency reboot and increases a failsafe counter, reboot does a reboot and packages do whatever they want... | 15:18 |
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| GAN900 | Tracking down noise on the power lines is an unfortunate sort of task. | 16:52 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer, hey buddy | 16:52 |
| ZogG | =( | 16:54 |
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| plr_ | hey how to setup maemo runtime for qemu? | 16:59 |
| plr_ | I don't have the runtime installed and not sure how to get it | 17:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ~ping | 17:05 |
| apt | ~pong | 17:05 |
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| ZogG | DocScrutinizer you are definitely script | 17:09 |
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| ZogG | jacekowski, ping | 17:11 |
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| liar | hm i've got fork() working. but chroot still refuses to work... | 17:56 |
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| pupnik | liar: you're building qemu for n900? | 18:05 |
| liar | pupnik: yes because the one in the repos does not work for me and i couldn't find the patches which are used by that version | 18:07 |
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| pupnik | :| | 18:07 |
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| liar | i think qemu isn't the fault anymore | 18:08 |
| pupnik | perhaps you need a more complete bash and not just busybox? | 18:08 |
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| liar | maybe,... but i suspect the problem sits elsewhere | 18:09 |
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| pupnik | brain isn't telling me anything | 18:10 |
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| eichi | is there allready a way to sync default calendar from n900 with a linux station without using a external website service? | 18:12 |
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| MohammadAG | khertan, somehow, I think this is where it all went wrong https://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-developers/qt/x11-maemo/blobs/history/4.7-fremantle/src/gui/text/qtextcontrol.cpp | 18:20 |
| MohammadAG | I've been tracing the aboutQt() dialog back to where it sets text | 18:20 |
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| ZogG | khertan, i can't test khweeteur anymore =( | 18:27 |
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| chem|st | who was the guy here hacking the columbus application? | 18:47 |
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| ZogG | chem|st what do you mean hack? | 18:51 |
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| chem|st | maintainer/builder/coder/hacker/brain behind columbus | 18:56 |
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| ZogG | chem|st oh, who is releasing it? you can check it om TMO - the one who announeced it i think it a developer | 18:56 |
| chem|st | ZogG: in here... alterego I think was it | 18:57 |
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| ZogG | chem|st maybe | 18:57 |
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| ZogG | it was tswindell on TMO | 18:58 |
| zakkmm | what are your takes on overclocking? | 18:59 |
| ZogG | chem|st if you want to contact him he has info on TMO http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=11220 | 19:00 |
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| chem|st | zakkmm: takes? | 19:02 |
| zakkmm | thoughts | 19:02 |
| zakkmm | thinking of it | 19:02 |
| zakkmm | i only use my phone very small times, never games or anything.. so the clockrate will never be high for long | 19:02 |
| chem|st | never thought further than "won't do ever" | 19:03 |
| ZogG | ++ | 19:03 |
| ZogG | why would you do overclocking | 19:03 |
| zakkmm | cpu performance | 19:03 |
| ZogG | it's like one of the things you don't need but you want to as it's cool =) | 19:03 |
| ZogG | i liek my perfomance as it is | 19:03 |
| chem|st | ZogG: the performance is already at 25ms isn't it? | 19:03 |
| ZogG | both on desktop and n900 i would never overclock | 19:03 |
| zakkmm | im a little less patient | 19:04 |
| zakkmm | :) | 19:04 |
| ZogG | zakkmm, than buy dualcore phone | 19:04 |
| zakkmm | i wanted maemo. | 19:04 |
| chem|st | all devices I ever overclocked stalled after short time... | 19:04 |
| zakkmm | if they had a dual core phone i would of | 19:04 |
| zakkmm | i had the 770 originally back in the day .. upgraded to n800 cause it was faster | 19:04 |
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| chem|st | zakkmm: no need to overclock, hildon-home will eat it at 1GHz as it will on 600MHz... | 19:05 |
| zakkmm | thats a good thing | 19:06 |
| chem|st | zakkmm: tweaking the settings and replacing hungry apps with better stuff is more important than clock rate | 19:06 |
| ZogG | just wait for meego device and hildon port to meego =) | 19:06 |
| zakkmm | i saw that, codora or something | 19:06 |
| zakkmm | i liked Mer back in the day , had an okay hildon-desktop'like | 19:07 |
| chem|st | bb | 19:07 |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile: U.S. credit rating outlook lowered by S&P | 19:15 |
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| pupnik | "open file" dialog on n900 is so slow that i misclick my way through the tree | 19:21 |
| pupnik | herky, jerky | 19:21 |
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| pupnik | hurp, durp. stop. go | 19:21 |
| pupnik | right now it's stuck with a misdrawn directory list | 19:22 |
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| pupnik | all hildon animations actually are stop and go slideshows atm | 19:23 |
| RST38h | wait until you see hoe much memory it allocates (use htop) | 19:23 |
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| pupnik | i umm. just see hildon-desktop entries | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | the hildon file dialog sucks | 19:29 |
| RST38h | No shit Sherlock... | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | o hai RST38h | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 19:29 |
| RST38h | heya | 19:29 |
| pupnik | well they got rid of the 'esc' key | 19:29 |
| pupnik | and the concept of the 'esc' | 19:29 |
| MohammadAG | if only someone made a Qt library to browse for files | 19:30 |
| pupnik | so they needed to reserve 1/5th the screen real estate for the 'get me out of here | 19:30 |
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| MohammadAG | worse is if the dialog isn't parented and it crashes (doesn't close) | 19:31 |
| MohammadAG | you have to reboot or ssh in and kill it | 19:31 |
| pupnik | which i guess isn't totally bad, at least it's somewhat consistent | 19:31 |
| MohammadAG | latter isn't possible on the go | 19:31 |
| pupnik | what process does the dialog run under ? | 19:31 |
| pupnik | hmm i may have debug libc6 loaded | 19:32 |
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| RST38h | The problem with the file dialog is notthe with UI itself | 19:43 |
| RST38h | It is with the gtk trying to read the WHOLE directory contents and create a separate widget for each filename | 19:44 |
| ZogG | RST38h явфкыеу =) | 19:44 |
| ZogG | zdraste* | 19:44 |
| RST38h | ZogG: privet. use something readable though, this ircii does not do unicode | 19:44 |
| ZogG | i just didn't switch to english | 19:45 |
| RST38h | In fact, I remember seeing it also traversing the first level of subdirectories, to "cache" things for better performance (sic) | 19:45 |
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| ZogG | writting russian word in english letters while you forgot to switch from russian is kinda sacractic | 19:45 |
| RST38h | google actually understands it now! =) | 19:46 |
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| ZogG | RST38h not always =( | 19:57 |
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| jacekowski | ZogG: pong | 20:28 |
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| ZogG | jacekowski just a minute, on phone | 20:30 |
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| ZogG | jacekowski, here | 20:47 |
| ZogG | i just wanted to talk to as much people as possible before i buy parts for N900 to fix it | 20:47 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer, pretty heleped me | 20:47 |
| ZogG | with what micrUSB to buy and inside battery | 20:48 |
| ZogG | btw DocScrutinizer, about inside battery. any other batteries that can fit and are good? | 20:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | dunno, you have to heck for voltage, dimesnion, and technology which I'd recommend to pick capacitive rather than LiIon | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | Check* | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | you also yould use a simple goldcap | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | as long as it has >2.8V and fits mechanically | 20:51 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer, i'm pretty stupid and mostly stupid in HW so if you might help me i would appriteate this | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | ask robbiethe1st | 20:51 |
| ZogG | i order one you told me but as i understand they don't provide it in our country =( | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | he used a goldcap afaik | 20:52 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer who is it and he is not here =( | 20:52 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer any thread on TMO about it as well i can search for ? | 20:52 |
| ZogG | i would probablly change microusb for now and than in case it works i'll change battery after that | 20:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | what is tmo? :-P | 20:53 |
| ZogG | as battery would be nice but it's not main thing | 20:53 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer talk.maemo.org =) | 20:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | never heard of that | 20:53 |
| ZogG | DocScrutinizer it's used here a lot =-) | 20:54 |
| ZogG | and you just trolling me | 20:54 |
| ZogG | as you know everything as you just like google bot | 20:54 |
| ZogG | you collection all the data over internets | 20:54 |
| ZogG | ~tmo | 20:54 |
| apt | methinks tmo is http://talk.maemo.org, or too much off-topic, or not ~t-mo | 20:54 |
| ZogG | ~t-mo | 20:54 |
| apt | well, t-mo is T-Mobile | 20:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~factinfo tmo | 20:54 |
| apt | tmo -- created by MohammadAG51 <~lagrange@Maemo/community/contributor/MohammadAG> at Wed Sep 8 12:31:38 2010 (222 days); last modified at Sat Oct 23 14:06:02 2010 by DocScrutinizer!~halley@openmoko/engineers/joerg; it has been requested 24 times, last by ZogG, 14s ago. | 20:54 |
| ZogG | ~ZogG | 20:55 |
| apt | you are probably not awesome at all | 20:55 |
| ZogG | ~factinfo ZogG | 20:55 |
| apt | zogg -- created by DocScrutinizer <~jr@openmoko/engineers/joerg> at Mon May 10 13:53:31 2010 (343 days); last modified at Thu Mar 3 19:04:33 2011 by jacekowski!jacekowski@jacekowski.org; it has been requested 4 times, last by ZogG, 10s ago. | 20:55 |
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| ZogG | lol | 20:55 |
| ZogG | i forgot what was before jacekowski changed it | 20:56 |
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| khertan | MohammadAG: new error : http://pastebin.com/MNXfywPV | 21:15 |
| khertan | :) | 21:15 |
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| MohammadAG | khertan, lemme guess x64? | 21:23 |
| MohammadAG | set vdso32=0 | 21:23 |
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| jacekowski | ZogG: ? | 21:30 |
| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: do you know his problem? | 21:31 |
| jacekowski | DocScrutinizer: he may have some lifted tracks there | 21:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | not at all, no photos no details | 21:31 |
| jacekowski | yeah | 21:32 |
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| Venemo | if you wanna have a laugh, see http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=991262&postcount=3081 | 21:34 |
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| khertan | MohammadAG: indeed amd64 ... i think it set it ... or maybe i read it too fast | 21:39 |
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| khertan | MohammadAG: the question is now what does it does ... (google my friend ...) | 21:41 |
| piggz | awesome...re-writing certain aspects of my space invaders game in c++ has much improoved the speed! | 21:42 |
| pupnik | hahah Venemo | 21:42 |
| * RST38h prays to the Tentacled One | 21:42 | |
| pupnik | i was just thinking of you RST38h | 21:42 |
| RST38h | ah, see, the Tentacled One delivers | 21:43 |
| RST38h | Not always what you wish for, but anyway | 21:43 |
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| ZogG | piggz liked your game btw | 21:45 |
| ZogG | thnks | 21:45 |
| piggz | ZogG: thx! | 21:45 |
| ZogG | no thx to you | 21:46 |
| piggz | ZogG: keep your eyes out for an update in the coming days | 21:46 |
| piggz | there are no slowdowns now | 21:46 |
| ZogG | i broke my n900 =) | 21:46 |
| piggz | unlucky! | 21:47 |
| ZogG | =( | 21:47 |
| ZogG | yes indeed | 21:47 |
| MohammadAG | khertan, disables something I don't care about :P | 21:48 |
| MohammadAG | chem|st, http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?searchid=10174346 | 21:55 |
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| khertan | error: "vm.vdso_enabled" is an unknown key ... humhuù | 22:04 |
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| pupnik | curent mypaint has a ridiculously long startup time | 22:11 |
| pupnik | oh god it's slow | 22:12 |
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| pupnik | 5 second delay from drawing a stroke with 100 radius circle | 22:13 |
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| n900-stuff | \o | 22:15 |
| n900-stuff | wheeeeeeeee | 22:15 |
| n900-stuff | using communi for the first time :D | 22:15 |
| n900-stuff | its good! | 22:15 |
| n900-stuff | :o where is the full screen? | 22:15 |
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| chem|st | MohammadAG: "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms." | 22:19 |
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| chem|st | MohammadAG: you mean bada rocks? | 22:20 |
| pupnik | lol a thread i started under an alt nick in 2009 has 241,000 views | 22:20 |
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| MohammadAG | chem|st, http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?do=finduser&u=52911 | 22:21 |
| MohammadAG | I'd keep his posts and ban him | 22:22 |
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| chem|st | MohammadAG: kept him and deleted his posts... you have too much food... trollfeeding isn't a good hobby | 22:25 |
| MohammadAG | why'd you keep him? :P | 22:26 |
| jakdarippa | startx & | 22:28 |
| jakdarippa | opps | 22:29 |
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| chem|st | MohammadAG: he got a warning, an offending one... "you will get banned in no time" | 22:30 |
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| pupnik | creativetone is an awesome artist.. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=991329&postcount=586 | 22:37 |
| pupnik | (new pic) | 22:38 |
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| pupnik | can't update / wget from scratchbox armel. nsswitch.conf is patched | 23:06 |
| pupnik | so sick of manually installing libraries | 23:06 |
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| pupnik | and not having ping | 23:06 |
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| pupnik | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://80.157.150.17 fremantle/tools/non-free | 23:16 |
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| pupnik | remember when you could actually just use an ip address | 23:16 |
| pupnik | remember? | 23:16 |
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| pupnik | anyone? | 23:16 |
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| * pupnik remembers | 23:16 | |
| Proteous | heh | 23:17 |
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| nox- | yeah before virtual hosts... | 23:19 |
| jhb | Hi *, a lot of processes appear twice with 'ps faux' http://pastebin.com/HucqCvwj. Is this normal? | 23:19 |
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| pupnik | same here jhb | 23:20 |
| pupnik | things with [] are kernel btw | 23:21 |
| SpeedEvil | jhb: yes | 23:21 |
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| SpeedEvil | jhb: thre are two halvres to manyprocesses | 23:21 |
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| Sazpaimon | how exactly does one build apache2 on scratchbox | 23:22 |
| Sazpaimon | the build fails with qemu segfaulting | 23:22 |
| Sazpaimon | is there a better qemu than the one scratchbox provides that I can use | 23:22 |
| Sazpaimon | preferably one that supports forking? | 23:22 |
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| jhb | SpeedEvil, pupnik: thanks | 23:25 |
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| pupnik | ahh /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf isn't chrooted to /etc/resolv.conf when you're in the build target | 23:25 |
| Sazpaimon | alright, i guess I'll just modify the makefile to not run ./apache2 | 23:26 |
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