| internetishard | qt I think | 00:00 |
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| villager | well that symbol popup from pushing the two upperleft keys is from a gtk input plugin, so if the browser isn't gtk-based, you won't get that popup | 00:01 |
| internetishard | okay, thanks for the info | 00:01 |
| javispedro | I think opera is plain X11. | 00:01 |
| javispedro | s/X11/Xlib | 00:02 |
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| villager | pupnik: why do you think the n900 screen is too small for gemrb? | 00:05 |
| pupnik | just feels cramped for me | 00:06 |
| pupnik | game was designed for 12"+ vga screens after all | 00:06 |
| pupnik | have you tried it? | 00:06 |
| villager | game ran on 640x480 as I recall, though it supported higher | 00:07 |
| villager | well, not really | 00:07 |
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| villager | admittedly, even with the stylus, it's a bit hard to aim on OpenDune too | 00:10 |
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| javispedro | I made a largish road trip this weekend... as per usual, the n900 was perfect. I was surprised by the battery life this year and a half old battery is still able to store. | 00:13 |
| internetishard | do you just turn it to 2g? | 00:14 |
| javispedro | yeah, I did | 00:14 |
| internetishard | I do that and bring two extra charged batteries | 00:14 |
| MohammadAG | I have 4 batteries! | 00:14 |
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| internetishard | I bet you do, but your like the n900 master | 00:15 |
| internetishard | MohammadAG: how do you charge them? | 00:15 |
| MohammadAG | external charger, and no, I'm not :P | 00:15 |
| * javispedro has only one battery. | 00:15 | |
| javispedro | it lasted through one and a half day, with GPS usage. | 00:15 |
| internetishard | yeah, can you recommend me this extra charger? I've been looking for a better one | 00:16 |
| MohammadAG | I just ebayed a BL-5J charger | 00:16 |
| lcuk | javispedro, screen brightness helps a lot | 00:16 |
| internetishard | javispedro: any special mods? Mine definitely wouldn't | 00:16 |
| lcuk | as does the mobile landscape | 00:16 |
| MohammadAG | it's $1 :P | 00:16 |
| MohammadAG | or 3, can't remember | 00:16 |
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| lcuk | internetishard, screen on brightest lasts much shorter time than knocking it down a few notches | 00:16 |
| javispedro | no mods... as lcuk said though I also reduced brigthness | 00:16 |
| lcuk | internetishard, use the lowest brightness you can happily use | 00:17 |
| MohammadAG | Night everyone | 00:17 |
| internetishard | I always have my screen brightness on the lowest setting | 00:17 |
| lcuk | nn mo | 00:17 |
| javispedro | gnite MohammadAG | 00:17 |
| javispedro | I am also testing my track logging stuff, currently 2 seconds por point.. | 00:17 |
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| javispedro | I plan to implement some kind of track reduction algorithm | 00:18 |
| lcuk | javispedro, nice | 00:18 |
| internetishard | which gps app did you use? | 00:18 |
| javispedro | and I wonder if it really helps to battery life to do "agressive" adapting liblocation periodicity "variations" | 00:18 |
| internetishard | I tried to get that turn by turn one to work a while back | 00:18 |
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| javispedro | for ex. predict that we won't need points every 2 seconds and instead request points every 30 seconds or the like when on high speed | 00:19 |
| sobczyk_ | hi, anyone knows if mbarcode source is accessible? | 00:19 |
| javispedro | s/points/gps fixes | 00:19 |
| javispedro | I should test that next time... | 00:19 |
| SpeedEvil | 'predict' - how? | 00:20 |
| lcuk | sobczyk_, absolutely! if you cannot find it on the mbarcode maemo garage page, you can get one of the src packages from: http://maemo.org/packages/view/mbarcode/ | 00:20 |
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| javispedro | SpeedEvil: past speeds, direction changes. | 00:20 |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil: if they drop below a threshold -- reduce frequency. | 00:20 |
| javispedro | (obvious risk of missing a sudden change of direction/speed -- however, if there's a noticeable long term improvement in battery life, it might be worthwile) | 00:21 |
| * SpeedEvil sighs at not having proper access to the GPS. | 00:21 | |
| SpeedEvil | (at least as far as I'm aware, with the current stack) | 00:21 |
| internetishard | javispedro: which gps were you using? | 00:22 |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil: did you have data on wheter 2-second or 5-second liblocation fixes make a difference in battery usage? | 00:22 |
| SpeedEvil | javispedro: no | 00:22 |
| javispedro | internetishard: I did not use navigation -- not even ovi maps, just recorded tracks. | 00:23 |
| internetishard | oh, how did it help you on the road trip then? | 00:23 |
| internetishard | ahh, that's how your battery lasted so long | 00:23 |
| javispedro | I did not bring my usual handheld gps =) | 00:24 |
| javispedro | internetishard: yeah, screen was not _always_ on ;) | 00:27 |
| internetishard | how did you find your way? | 00:27 |
| internetishard | you read raw gps data? haha | 00:27 |
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| javispedro | it's called pre-planning | 00:27 |
| javispedro | ;P | 00:27 |
| internetishard | where's the fun in that? | 00:27 |
| * javispedro ponders what internetishard is going to say when I tell him that I wasn't the one driving even... | 00:28 | |
| internetishard | Not sure what that means... someone in your car had an iphone? +_+ | 00:28 |
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| javispedro | baah, forget it :P | 00:31 |
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| xd13 | n900 till it diies on me | 00:40 |
| pupnik | anybody have a fast pulseaudio replacement? | 00:41 |
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| BCMM | pupnik: fire? | 00:43 |
| pupnik | :D | 00:43 |
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| BCMM | it serves the same purpose of not playing audio, and is marginally less irritating | 00:43 |
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| pupnik | well we can bypass it - just need to ensure that the app doesn't break the speakers | 00:45 |
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| chx | Oh my lord, t-mobile bought by AT&T there werent that many AWS phones so far and now ... i think i need to stockpile on N900. | 00:48 |
| chx | (I am on Wind Mobile in Canada.) | 00:48 |
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| xd13 | chx n900 is an amazing phone, i'm worried if i were 2 break my current i would want the xact same | 00:52 |
| chx | my problems is truly absymal battery life , if i have IM ongoing ti sucks the battery dry in a few hours and the bulk | 00:52 |
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| BCMM | chx: on gprs? | 00:52 |
| chx | 3g | 00:53 |
| BCMM | pretty much anything will have poor battery life doing that | 00:53 |
| BCMM | i mean, unless it's got a massive bulky battery | 00:53 |
| chx | however, the bulk might be a savior, 'cos if it's that bad i might need to carry a bag anyways then slipping in an external battery is not that big of a challenge. | 00:53 |
| chx | i have two batteries with usb ports for my laptop | 00:53 |
| BCMM | you can't carry the n900 in a pocket? | 00:53 |
| chx | no | 00:53 |
| chx | i tried | 00:53 |
| chx | i cant | 00:53 |
| xd13 | i wish nokia would have made a better battery of original size | 00:54 |
| chx | i tried it on my belt, digs in my side / stomach when i sit | 00:54 |
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| BCMM | seems to fit in regular jeans pockets to me | 00:54 |
| BCMM | men's jeans, i mean | 00:54 |
| xd13 | i keep it in my pocket as well | 00:54 |
| chx | dont you fear for the screen? | 00:54 |
| BCMM | probably almost no women's clothes have a sufficiently large pocket | 00:54 |
| chx | i put in a case and now it's too big. | 00:54 |
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| chx | i am a man. or so i think. | 00:55 |
| chx | :P | 00:55 |
| BCMM | oh, i don't use a case | 00:55 |
| BCMM | i just keep it in a pocket all on it's own | 00:55 |
| chx | and what happens to the screen? | 00:55 |
| BCMM | very careful that keys and stuff are on the other side | 00:55 |
| BCMM | it's fine, because the lining of hte pocket is made of a similar material that a case would be... | 00:55 |
| chx | pocket dirt? | 00:55 |
| chx | the battery is not helped by the fact that the usb connector is um | 00:56 |
| BCMM | i'm careful taking it out though, because of jeans that have those stupid little metal studs pinning the pocket on | 00:56 |
| BCMM | i'm almost sure those aren't actually structural | 00:56 |
| SpeedEvil | BCMM: Sew patches over them | 00:56 |
| BCMM | heh | 00:56 |
| xd13 | the only thing i ever put in my pocket with my n900 is my wallet | 00:57 |
| BCMM | mine has a metal zip i wouldn't put anywhere near the phone | 00:57 |
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| BCMM | meh, if i have a wallet, things are going to be bought, and therefore i have a bag | 00:58 |
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| BCMM | actually, the two downsides of the n900 over the venerable 3410 are battery life, and that you could easily fit a folded tenner under the back casing of a 3410 | 01:00 |
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| pupnik | hardware-wise the e71 is awesome | 01:02 |
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| nox- | oh tmo u.s. sold... | 02:04 |
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| pupnik | http://www.isuppli.com/Semiconductor-Value-Chain/News/Pages/Japanese-Earthquake-to-Impact-Component-Supply-and-Pricing.aspx | 02:39 |
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| budfive | anybody able to connect to AIM on maemo5 recently? I've been getting a "network error" for the last few months | 02:44 |
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| pupnik | is AIM still around | 02:45 |
| budfive | sure :) | 02:45 |
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| internetishard | n900 works with any 3.5mm headset right? | 03:23 |
| SpeedEvil | Yes. | 03:23 |
| SpeedEvil | Headphones | 03:23 |
| SpeedEvil | Headsets vary | 03:23 |
| internetishard | for mic too | 03:23 |
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| internetishard | http://www.dealextreme.com/p/ear-hook-style-headphones-w-microphone-volume-control-black-3-5mm-jack-200cm-cable-54783 this looks decent, wrong connectors though | 03:27 |
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| SpeedEvil | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-Nokia-E75-5530-5630-WH-205-Handsfree-Headphone-/200563643457?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item2eb2865441 | 03:28 |
| SpeedEvil | forex | 03:28 |
| internetishard | mine broke because I cut them up | 03:29 |
| internetishard | to put a wrap around headphone on them | 03:29 |
| internetishard | which didn't really work out - now I'm looking for one that comes like that | 03:29 |
| internetishard | SpeedEvil: that isn't a n900 only connector is it? | 03:30 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 03:31 |
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| SpeedEvil | err | 03:31 |
| SpeedEvil | It works with the n900 | 03:31 |
| SpeedEvil | the wh-20r5 that is | 03:31 |
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| internetishard | SpeedEvil: got disconnected, so I missed whatever you might have said; sorry | 03:32 |
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| SpeedEvil | They are WH-205's - that are the nokia phones supplied with several nokias | 03:33 |
| internetishard | yeah, I used to have them before I cut them up | 03:33 |
| internetishard | to put comfortable speaker(s) on them | 03:34 |
| internetishard | those ones that clip around the back of your ear and don't fall off | 03:34 |
| SpeedEvil | The earbuds don't fall out for me. | 03:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://members.omtp.org/Lists/ReqPublications/Attachments/36/OMTP_Local_Connectivity_Wired_Analogue_Audio_v1_0.pdf | 03:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's as standard as it can get | 03:35 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 03:37 |
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| * ShadowJK usually has thw wire going behind ear with wh-205 type earbuds | 03:41 | |
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| SpeedEvil | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SONY-ERICSSON-LIVEVIEW-BLUETOOTH-OLED-MICRO-DISPLAY-/130463613682?pt=UK_Mobile_Home_Phones_Bluetooth_Acc_ET&hash=item1e603cc2f2 | 03:42 |
| SpeedEvil | Interesting. | 03:43 |
| SpeedEvil | (though silly price) | 03:43 |
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| wmarone | pupnik: you there? | 05:41 |
| wmarone | in any case | 05:42 |
| wmarone | pupnik: would you have any insight into tihs topic: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=16502 | 05:42 |
| wmarone | and where the sources for it may be? | 05:42 |
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| luke-jr | anyone else notice T-Mobile has ALREADY dropped their no-contract plans? | 06:40 |
| budfive | heh? even more plus has been available in-store only for a few months now | 06:45 |
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| luke-jr | http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/sprint-critiques-proposed-atandt-t-mobile-deal-says-buyout-woul/ | 07:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | umm, that's not like t-mo to change their product palette less than a 3 months after some company capital shift | 07:17 |
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| ds3 | it would blow if they divest the N900 enabled 3G network | 07:20 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: well, I guess it's because AT&T has already disclosed they WON'T be continuing T-Mo rates once contracts expire | 07:20 |
| luke-jr | so contractless is kinda pointless now | 07:20 |
| luke-jr | ds3: it blows period | 07:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | even US has some anti-trust agency | 07:21 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: Sprint has already appealed to them to forbid it | 07:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | I doubt at&t can simply shut down a service of t-mo and bewilder/let down on all the users depending on it | 07:22 |
| luke-jr | T-Mo forums are up in flames | 07:22 |
| luke-jr | everyone is terminating it sounds like | 07:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | OTOH US mobile market is so fubar, prolly virtually everything can happen, except one thing: they get it done right one day | 07:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | whole US capitalism (sorry I'm missing the correct term) has one big problem: it's all but common sense and intuitive what a company can do to their customers. Seems there's basically no rules at all, except the ones that make McD write "attention! hot content" on their coffee mugs | 07:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so if anybody decides to make a business out of selling atomic waste as pool cleanser detergent, it probably also takes some case at court to make them write "Attention! may contain ionizing material!" on the can | 07:31 |
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| DocScrutinizer | then they claim that's a business secret that makes their products unique, and that's been it with the writing. "Sorry customer, the company can't be urged to disclose their business secrets" | 07:33 |
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| * DocScrutinizer should patent this concept - might conveniently solve the problem of nuclear waste disposal | 07:54 | |
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| gzt | Flashed emmc+os to my n900 and got now a litle problem, fone does not regonize sim-card at all, any ideas?? | 09:37 |
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| gzt | nevermind got it working :> | 10:01 |
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| Termana | good morning | 10:57 |
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| timeless_office | anyone here familiar w/ gst? | 11:01 |
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| crashanddie | timeless_office, quite a few I'd reckon, how about you just ask your question? | 11:02 |
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| timeless_office | so, i found a function called 'goom_close' | 11:03 |
| timeless_office | and i have two versions which claim to be 0.10.27 | 11:04 |
| timeless_office | but their goom_close impls do not look particularly similar, and i'm wondering what's going on | 11:04 |
| timeless_office | http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/gst-plugins-good0.10/gst/goom/goom_core.c?mark=804#781 | 11:05 |
| timeless_office | http://mxr.meego.com/repo.meego.com/source/gst-plugins-good/gst/goom2k1/goom_core.c#400 | 11:06 |
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| RST38h | Moo all | 11:18 |
| alterego | RST38h: lcuk cunningly pointed out yesterday that tablet ux for meego is all qml | 11:19 |
| RST38h | alterego: Yea, I know. And it shouldhave components too. There is only one catch. | 11:19 |
| timeless_office | crashanddie; can i get you to read some Xorg code? :) | 11:20 |
| RST38h | alterego: We have no sources for it :) | 11:20 |
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| MohammadAG | who can change maemo's api docs? | 11:20 |
| crashanddie | timeless_office, frankly? No. | 11:20 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: You mean the web reference? XFade for example | 11:20 |
| MohammadAG | http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/mafw/MafwRenderer.html#MAFW-PROPERTY-RENDERER-XID:CAPS that needs to be changed to G_TYPE_UINT, instead of G_TYPE_ULONG as villager pointed out | 11:20 |
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| RST38h | Mohammad: They are the same data type | 11:21 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: And yes, it is historic :) | 11:21 |
| MohammadAG | ULONG failed, UINT didn't | 11:21 |
| crashanddie | basically, I just found the following in some header file: #define TWO 2 #define THREE 3 #define four 44 #define FIVE 5 #define sixty 70 | 11:21 |
| MohammadAG | so clearly, it has to be a uint | 11:21 |
| RST38h | Yea, the #define may be missing | 11:22 |
| MohammadAG | no, it isn't | 11:22 |
| MohammadAG | oh, that wasn't @ me | 11:22 |
| RST38h | Checking | 11:22 |
| RST38h | Mohammad: You are right: they may be the same, but not to Gnome: http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#nJHaZQ1IJ84/trunk/third_party/gtk/include/glib-2.0/gobject/gtype.h&q=G_TYPE_ULONG&sa=N&cd=2&ct=rc | 11:23 |
| merlin1991 | morning | 11:23 |
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| RST38h | Basically, they have got different IDs in the Gnome variant object | 11:23 |
| MohammadAG | so, who can change the api docs? | 11:23 |
| RST38h | XFade. | 11:24 |
| * MohammadAG pings X-Fade | 11:24 | |
| RST38h | Do notice that these html docs are probably generated from some master | 11:24 |
| MohammadAG | -doc packages I guess | 11:24 |
| RST38h | How interesting: Gnome does have separate IDs for INT/UINT and LONG/ULONG but it has *no* ID for shorts | 11:25 |
| * RST38h wonders why | 11:25 | |
| robbiethe1st | Cause no one uses shorts perhaps? | 11:27 |
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| RST38h | robbie: yea, right... | 11:32 |
| RST38h | robbie: http://library.gnome.org/devel/glib/unstable/glib-Basic-Types.html | 11:33 |
| robbiethe1st | Then, why? | 11:33 |
| * RST38h sighs: some people can really be replaced with small PERL scripts | 11:33 | |
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| crashanddie | I had some guy from production call me, telling me the performance was piss poor on the VoIP server | 11:49 |
| crashanddie | so I go have a look, and find about 300GB worth of logs and traces for the past 24h | 11:49 |
| crashanddie | apparently they found out how to activate our debug switch | 11:49 |
| loft306 | lmao | 11:51 |
| ruskie | hehe | 11:52 |
| crashanddie | I mean, these guys run production phone systems, and they sent me a bug report, saying that our conference system didn't work when they called 012314567891155, however it did work when they called 0123456789 <pause 3 seconds> 1155 | 11:53 |
| ruskie | this is why debug functions need to be documented and HUGE arse warnings appended that toggling this can have hazardous effects | 11:53 |
| crashanddie | ruskie, actually, no. We gave them a manual saying exactly how to run it. No more, no less. | 11:53 |
| crashanddie | No need for funky features, they've got everything they need... | 11:54 |
| ruskie | should be documented</angry sysadmin> | 11:54 |
| crashanddie | It's in the man page. | 11:55 |
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| crashanddie | where it says that the --debug=full flag is a DEBUG FLAG (who would've guessed), and should only be used whilst DEBUGGING, never in PRODUCTION. | 11:56 |
| ruskie | ahh | 11:56 |
| ruskie | from the posts it sounded like it wasn't documented... | 11:56 |
| crashanddie | hmm, when I said "our", I just meant no one else ever uses it | 11:56 |
| ruskie | ahh | 11:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: I'm a shellscript ;-P | 12:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | you cant replace me by a friggin perl script | 12:09 |
| crashanddie | s/shell/perl/ | 12:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | crashanddie: hat's when you start considering to implement eastereggs like a call to all trunks each 10 minutes, playing a prerecorded warning "the system is in debug mode" | 12:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | crashanddie: ...or tell them they now have to *analyze* those 300GB, and you'll power up the system when they come with proper results of this analysis. But until then... ;-P (BOFH) | 12:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | or simply: please PRINT it now! then show me the printout | 12:19 |
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| DocScrutinizer | whe they come with those 15 tons of paper, you tell them "did you see that one line at 04:51:23.044123, saying 'can't open foo.bar - file not found'? Here, look..." then pick out the right paper from the right stack on 2nd or third try, and highlight the line with a marker :-P | 12:24 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 12:39 |
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| SpeedEvil | Morning! | 12:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | morbing | 12:41 |
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| villager | RST38h: GValues are used for parameter passing, not for storage or calculation, so it does not need to cover the full range of types... and in the C language, short parameters are usually automatically passed as integers anyway, but ints and longs can have different sizes so they must have different types | 12:46 |
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| Jaffa | X-Fade: ping | 12:47 |
| X-Fade | Jaffa: Pong | 12:47 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade: Have you updated council@ yet? I need to send some handover material and want to know to whom that'll go ;-) | 12:47 |
| villager | RST38h: for different purposes (marshalling), GVariants cover a broader range of integer types | 12:47 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | morphing Jaffa, X-Fade | 12:47 |
| X-Fade | Jaffa: No, not yet. Got distracted again :) | 12:48 |
| Jaffa | X-Fade: OK, ta. Will it be done soon (in which case I'll hold off); or should I plough ahead? | 12:49 |
| X-Fade | Jaffa: editing aliases now. | 12:49 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | X-Fade: MohammadAG had an exotic request: fixing a flaw in maemo docs :D | 12:51 |
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| MohammadAG | villager, pointed it out, not me :) | 12:52 |
| MohammadAG | <MohammadAG> http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/mafw/MafwRenderer.html#MAFW-PROPERTY-RENDERER-XID:CAPS that needs to be changed to G_TYPE_UINT, instead of G_TYPE_ULONG as villager pointed out | 12:52 |
| RST38h | villager: no need to have bytes then, they are also passed as ints | 12:54 |
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| merlin1991 | X-Fade: whatabout the cloak? | 12:56 |
| X-Fade | merlin1991: Will do that together with the council changes. | 12:57 |
| X-Fade | MohammadAG: Marcell will edit the origin for the docs, then it should show up on maemo.org at the end of today. Or tomorrow. | 12:58 |
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| MohammadAG | X-Fade, thanks | 12:59 |
| khorben_ | http://lists.hackable1.org/pipermail/hackable1-user/2011-March/000797.html FWIW | 13:02 |
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| OkropNick | I finished N900 discharge script alert. If someone want it, it's here: http://pastebin.com/RmAhD93t - can be launched for example from fcron | 13:12 |
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| Jaffa | OkropNick: What does it do? | 13:16 |
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| lcuk | jaffa, at a guess: while(1){ if(battery_low){ alert("Battery low"); } } :P | 13:17 |
| OkropNick | Jaffa: it's testing battery charge lrevel, and when it is below given level, default 10% it;'s displaying remind to charge phone, turn on vibration for 1 second and speaking "charge me" :) | 13:17 |
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| lcuk | OkropNick, in principle how is this different to what happens now? | 13:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | khorben_: now that's nice news :-D | 13:18 |
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| OkropNick | lcuk: now - without script - there is only quiet sound remind below 5% | 13:19 |
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| OkropNick | It's just for me, but I pasted it, because someone in future maybe need it | 13:20 |
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| lcuk | :) | 13:22 |
| lcuk | OkropNick, I am wondering whether simliar would be usable on meego DeveloperEdition, let me ask | 13:25 |
| OkropNick | lcuk: dont't ask to ask, just ask :) | 13:25 |
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| lcuk | OkropNick, :D | 13:28 |
| lcuk | good advice | 13:28 |
| lcuk | I have posted link to your release notes and download for your git repository :P | 13:28 |
| lcuk | on the #meego-arm channel | 13:28 |
| OkropNick | nice | 13:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | lcuk: any idea where on wiki we could integrate khorben_'s nice info about defora/hackable:1 ? | 13:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I thought there'd be a page about alternative distros or somesuch, listing meego, shr, mer, whatnot. Can't find such page | 13:34 |
| lcuk | DocScrutinizer, not looked to know and just about to go for lunch | 13:34 |
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| khorben_ | DocScrutinizer: is there a page for alternative repositories? | 13:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, tha might be the right page, yes | 13:36 |
| khorben_ | at least for the time being | 13:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAH, http://wiki.maemo.org/Alternative_operating_systems | 13:37 |
| khorben_ | sounds about right :) | 13:39 |
| khorben_ | although at the moment hackable:1 does have everything it takes to actually boot on Maemo, it's based on Debian, so it can | 13:40 |
| khorben_ | +not | 13:40 |
| khorben_ | although at the moment hackable:1 does not have everything it takes to actually boot on Maemo, it's based on Debian, so it can | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | terribly out of date it seems | 13:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | (that wikipage) | 13:40 |
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| khorben_ | there's http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories too | 13:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository#List_of_Maemo_repositories | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh | 13:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-D | 13:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | short stupid question: how to markup strike-thru text in mediawiki? | 13:54 |
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| mece | \o | 13:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | foundit <s> | 13:58 |
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| lardman | 'allo 'allo | 14:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | 'allo la'dman | 14:42 |
| pupnik | http://tvrefill.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/north-korea-is-best-korea.jpg | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | anybody used http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/devtools/maemo5#Debugging ? | 14:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | esp the sp-* | 14:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | WTF http://wiki.maemo.org/Category:Devtools anybody else got a mess on that page? | 14:46 |
| ruskie | mess? | 14:47 |
| ruskie | I see a ton of Documentation/ links | 14:47 |
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| DocScrutinizer | in konqueror the links aren't linewrapped so table extends underneath the right hand menu | 14:49 |
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| DocScrutinizer | in FF it's ok | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | :-S | 14:49 |
| MohammadAG | http://i56.tinypic.com/2yzizvt.jpg sexy, ain't it? | 14:50 |
| pupnik | looks pro MohammadAG | 14:51 |
| E0x | hmm the n900 without the battery cover fill more right in the hands | 14:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer | umm | 14:53 |
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| mece | where can I find xulrunner-dev? for n900? | 15:05 |
| mece | MohammadAG, what pupnik said :) | 15:06 |
| MohammadAG | pupnik, mece thanks :D | 15:08 |
| MohammadAG | meh, deleted it by accident | 15:11 |
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| Venemo_N900 | moring | 15:22 |
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| mece | hm has something changed regarding the dsk repositories? | 15:27 |
| mece | I'm getting connection failed on everything! | 15:28 |
| mece | grr | 15:28 |
| mece | Unable to connect to repository.maemo.org http: [IP: 217.212.252.139 80] | 15:28 |
| mece | Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages | 15:28 |
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| MohammadAG | lol the iPhone's headphones don't work on the N900 | 15:33 |
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| frals | iphone is using some other connector so not surprising really? | 15:34 |
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| jpinx | anyone know why I can connect to a server with ssh but not to a webpage in the browser on my n900 ? | 15:34 |
| ruskie | or you have something muted/set to to low a silence | 15:34 |
| MohammadAG | frals, 3.5mm, supposdely | 15:35 |
| MohammadAG | supposedly* | 15:36 |
| ruskie | are they 4 pin? | 15:36 |
| frals | 3.5mm maybe but not same order or wth its called | 15:36 |
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| mece | dammit why does nothing work in my sdk????? | 15:39 |
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| jpinx | browser hiccup ? | 15:45 |
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| mece | jpinx, ? | 15:46 |
| jpinx | anyone know why I can connect to a server with ssh but not to a webpage in the browser on my n900 ? | 15:47 |
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| jpinx | mece: /\ | 15:47 |
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| villager | RST38h: for language bindings (e.g. python), G_TYPE_CHAR would probably be a different language type than an int, while a short would not be... for GValue, they added the types they needed for portability and language bindings I think, and no more | 15:53 |
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| rm_work | jpinx: DNS? are you using an IP for your SSH connection? | 16:00 |
| rm_work | jpinx: or, firewalled? 22 gets out but 80 is blocked? | 16:00 |
| crashanddie | jpinx, may sound obvious, but is the website down? | 16:01 |
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| crashanddie | MohammadAG, actually, they're not | 16:02 |
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| korhojoa | jpinx, also one alternative: proxy required? | 16:03 |
| crashanddie | MohammadAG, basically, as soon as there's some funky stuff going on such as remote control via headphones, microphone or whatever, the jack 2.5mm isn't "standard" anymore | 16:03 |
| MohammadAG | true, but it should be backwards compatible | 16:03 |
| crashanddie | Which means you hear distorted sound... Usually, pulling them out half a mm is enough to get correct sound (even though on sometimes, you'll only get one ear working) | 16:03 |
| MohammadAG | the N900's headphones work fine on my laptop | 16:04 |
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| crashanddie | they don't work on my macbook | 16:04 |
| crashanddie | my macbook detects it as a microphone | 16:04 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 16:05 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, we talk on here because we don't want to be overheard? | 16:08 |
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| * jpinx is working a eeepc beside the n900 with no wifi issues | 16:08 | |
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| jpinx | rm_work: yes - ssh is to an IP | 16:09 |
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| rm_work | jpinx: then, check your DNS | 16:10 |
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| crashanddie | MohammadAG, indeed, no logging, no tracing, all that | 16:14 |
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| crashanddie | MohammadAG, and we sp34k l33t. | 16:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | crashanddie: don't PCs usually have dedicated receptacles for mic and headphones (i.e. 2)? | 16:19 |
| korhojoa | DocScrutinizer51, not all of them | 16:19 |
| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer51, not the macbook 13" | 16:19 |
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| korhojoa | i've seen quite a few now with combined | 16:19 |
| korhojoa | and then a spdif port | 16:19 |
| korhojoa | usually coax, almost never optical | 16:20 |
| korhojoa | sometimes it's been the same port. | 16:20 |
| korhojoa | mini toslink just fit right in | 16:20 |
| crashanddie | DocScrutinizer, the optical + mic in + speaker out are combined in the same IIRC | 16:20 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | well, if whatever PC is detecting N900 headset as a mic then it's a rather fubar design of the PC | 16:20 |
| korhojoa | DocScrutinizer51, but tbh, this headset isn't really standard | 16:21 |
| korhojoa | or well, if it is, nobody uses this standard | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | korhojoa: I know about the combined toslink-analogAV. Planned one for GTA04 phone | 16:22 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | korhojoa: sorry to disagree, check backscroll or log for 'it's as standard as it can get' | 16:23 |
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| jpinx | rm_work: I can get google web page by it's IP number so how doI fix the dns? | 16:27 |
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| rm_work | are you on WIFI or using 3G? | 16:27 |
| MohammadAG | crashanddie, y34h, 1 n0t1c3d | 16:27 |
| jpinx | rm_work: wifi | 16:29 |
| rm_work | jpinx: what is your DNS server set to on the n900? | 16:29 |
| jpinx | where do I lookfor that? | 16:29 |
| rm_work | type "nslookup google.com" | 16:29 |
| rm_work | it will tell you Server: | 16:30 |
| SpeedEvil | The DNS server onthen900 is set to localhost. | 16:30 |
| SpeedEvil | It runsdnsmasw | 16:30 |
| SpeedEvil | dnsmasq | 16:30 |
| rm_work | ah what, blah k | 16:30 |
| rm_work | thanks SpeedEvil | 16:30 |
| jpinx | so why hasx mine suddenly decided to not work? | 16:30 |
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| jpinx | nslookup says 10.0.1.1 | 16:32 |
| rm_work | jpinx: not sure :/ | 16:32 |
| rm_work | jpinx: is your router properly configures? | 16:32 |
| rm_work | *configured | 16:32 |
| jpinx | rm_work: it is a public wifi that Just Works with me eeepc here | 16:33 |
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| rm_work | hrm | 16:33 |
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| Arkenoi | Does io scheduler that deals properly with flash storage exist at all? If yes, why we do not use it? | 16:41 |
| korhojoa | jpinx, set it to 208.67.222.222, that's opendns | 16:43 |
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| jacekowski | Arkenoi: noop | 16:44 |
| jacekowski | Arkenoi: or deadline | 16:44 |
| jacekowski | Arkenoi: but it's not going to help | 16:44 |
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| jacekowski | Arkenoi: flash storage is slow and that's all | 16:44 |
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| Arkenoi | jacekowski, it is ok that it is slow. it is not ok that any "background" task like sync or tracker-indexer causes everything to be unresponsive at inacceptable level | 16:45 |
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| jacekowski | Arkenoi: you would have to give it lower io priority | 16:46 |
| jacekowski | deadline elevator could do it | 16:46 |
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| jacekowski | Arkenoi: if you have time | 16:48 |
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| jacekowski | try playing with /sys/block/mmcblk0/queue/iosched/scheduler | 16:49 |
| Arkenoi | jacekowski, yes, i'd give it lower io priority, but we do not even have ionice in the system, i was told it is because it won't really work anyways :-( | 16:49 |
| jacekowski | and mmcblk1 | 16:49 |
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| jacekowski | try changing it to noop | 16:49 |
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| deno | hi there | 16:53 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | nope, as SpeedEvil said the file points to 127.0.0.1 *always* | 17:03 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | you don't want to set it to any other IP | 17:03 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | for DNS | 17:03 |
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| jacekowski | http://nenolod.net/~nenolod/sholes-keyleak-explained.html | 17:07 |
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| jacekowski | look | 17:07 |
| jacekowski | milestone keys leak | 17:07 |
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| chem|st | ~cssu | 17:19 |
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| infobot | cssu is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | 17:19 |
| lardman | jacekowski: interesting | 17:20 |
| lardman | DocScrutinizer51: a belated morning back to you :) | 17:21 |
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| pupnik_ | NDAs prevent the future from sending signals back to the present :) | 17:28 |
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| macmaN | yo allz | 17:39 |
| macmaN | is anyone using a 3G USB modem with their N900? | 17:40 |
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| MohammadAG | an iPhone 5 proto, meh | 17:46 |
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| xkr47 | pupnik_, :) | 17:48 |
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| Venemo_N900 | MohammadAG: really? | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | lardman: moinmoin | 17:53 |
| lardman | hi | 17:54 |
| * lardman didn't do quite as much hacking on his week off as he'd thought | 17:54 | |
| lardman | in fact staying well away from computers was quite pleasant :) | 17:54 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | macmaN: now that sounds a bit silly | 17:54 |
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| Venemo_N900 | lardman :) | 17:54 |
| macmaN | DocScrutinizer51: hear me out yo. it makes it possible to share data plan between devices. | 17:55 |
| Venemo_N900 | DocScrutinizer51: don't think so. sometimes the policy of mobile operators lacks any common sense | 17:56 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | k k | 17:56 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo_N900, yeah | 17:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | nevertheless it sounds silly, however useful it might be | 17:57 |
| macmaN | Venemo_N900: yeah you're on the right track | 17:57 |
| Venemo_N900 | DocScrutinizer51: in my country, data plans sold with 3G USB devices are cheaper than those with mobiles | 17:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | macmaN: you'd need external power source for sure | 17:57 |
| macmaN | DocScrutinizer51: thats what im worred about :/ | 17:57 |
| macmaN | n900 can something like 100mA? | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | no need to worry. it's fact | 17:58 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | 200 | 17:58 |
| MohammadAG | I could power my 3G modem, but it never worked, or never got a signal | 17:58 |
| MohammadAG | it only flashed a bit | 17:59 |
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| macmaN | that's definitely a bleh :/ | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | sure, it doesn't need much until starts TX | 17:59 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | mine even came with Y-cable by default | 18:00 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | so I guess they thought even 500 might be low | 18:00 |
| macmaN | oh wow | 18:01 |
| macmaN | so a laptop hdd needs less than the modem? | 18:01 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | which evidently might be true. as you got up to 2W OTA TX on such device. And efficiency of tx amp is more like 0.5 | 18:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | so prepare for 4W/5V | 18:02 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | which in my book is >>500mA | 18:03 |
| macmaN | :) | 18:03 |
| pupnik_ | maybe a clever capacitor + resistor could buffer the current for sending? | 18:04 |
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| * pupnik_ waits to get bashed for saying something dumb | 18:05 | |
| DocScrutinizer51 | afaik there *are* commands to reduce TX power, but do you want to do that? | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | pupnik_: can and actually to some degree is done | 18:05 |
| macmaN | so i wonder what could be the solution here | 18:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | but doesn't really help | 18:06 |
| macmaN | goal is to have something that i could hotplug between my real router and n900 when i need to | 18:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | macmaN: dualsim/twinsim/clonesim | 18:06 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | I know the pain | 18:07 |
| macmaN | DocScrutinizer51: you mean forced to move away from n900? | 18:09 |
| macmaN | any of the +sim approaches dont apply to n900 or am i missing something | 18:09 |
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| * DocScrutinizer51 wonders what will happen to first twin's data connection on signin of the 2nd twin kicking the GSM routing of calls to first device | 18:10 | |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | macmaN: twinsim are two 'identical' sim with one account for both | 18:11 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | hard to find but sometimes you can get those | 18:11 |
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| macmaN | yeah but there are restrictions with that | 18:14 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | macmaN: very old sims you can clone to build your own twinsim | 18:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer51 | what restrictions? are they worse than what you get with one sim? | 18:15 |
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| anapospastos | hi guys, did anyone manage to solve this? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=542102 | 18:22 |
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| haj | gad vide om det vil blive kaldt krig eller terror hvis Gadaffi var i stand til at nakke et militært hovedkvarter i USA? | 18:27 |
| haj | hov, | 18:27 |
| haj | wrong chan.. again. | 18:27 |
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| MohammadAG | why the stock media player sucks: | 18:39 |
| MohammadAG | method call sender=:1.58 -> dest=org.freedesktop.Tracker serial=287 path=/org/freedesktop/Tracker/Metadata; interface=org.freedesktop.Tracker.Metadata; member=GetMultiple | 18:39 |
| MohammadAG | it wastes a good API (MAFW) and uses tracker instead | 18:40 |
| anapospastos | it's veeery annoying, the default audio icon is an album art picture | 18:40 |
| MohammadAG | actually, it doesn't waste it | 18:40 |
| MohammadAG | it uses both | 18:41 |
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| anapospastos | can I fix it? | 18:41 |
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| MohammadAG | that would be tracker | 18:44 |
| MohammadAG | which I have no idea about | 18:44 |
| MohammadAG | recursive : TRUE, if browsing should be recursive. <-- wow, explains a lot | 18:44 |
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| anapospastos | somewhere will exists a value/"link" or somewhat that stores the default audio icon picture | 18:46 |
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| celesteh | lcuk: thank you for your recommendation yesterday. :) | 18:56 |
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| anapospastos | or if I ll find and delete this album thumbnail to get forced to use the default | 18:58 |
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| lardman | anapospastos: tried to reboot? | 19:01 |
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| lardman | Is there an icon cache on the device, sounds like it's become corrupted | 19:01 |
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| lardman | or do you really think something has altered the (presumably) gconf key for the icon? | 19:02 |
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| anapospastos | This problem appeared months ago, something is corrupted and it "thinks" that the default audio icon is the wrong one | 19:03 |
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| lardman | I'd be tempted to re-generate the icon cache and see if that fixes it | 19:04 |
| anapospastos | maybe something like this is what I need, what command I ve got to run? | 19:05 |
| lardman | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40558 | 19:05 |
| lardman | hmm, might be that we no-longer have an icon cache... | 19:05 |
| lardman | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6931 might be worth a look to see if this is the same thing | 19:07 |
| povbot | Bug 6931: After installation of software last icon in list has default icon instead of own one | 19:07 |
| lardman | probably not though as yours presumably persists after a reboot? | 19:08 |
| anapospastos | it persists after reboot or changing of theme | 19:09 |
| anapospastos | I believe it's not bug 6931 | 19:09 |
| povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/6931 After installation of software last icon in list has default icon instead of own one | 19:09 |
| anapospastos | y but it is concerning apps, maybe for files is something different | 19:11 |
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| lardman | sure | 19:13 |
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| lardman | well perhaps it is gconf then, I don't know how the filemanager handles it's icon choice | 19:13 |
| lardman | s/it's/its | 19:13 |
| tekonivelo | just got my N900 out of the closet | 19:13 |
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| * tekonivelo is now updating firmware | 19:13 | |
| tekonivelo | i guess the 20.blahblah is the newest version, over the SSU | 19:14 |
| anapospastos | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11635 | 19:15 |
| povbot | Bug 11635: Wrong icon for non id tagged audio files | 19:15 |
| lardman | interesting | 19:16 |
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| lardman | http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2009/04/album-art-in-fremantle.html | 19:18 |
| lardman | I wonder where the hildon-thumbnailer caches the album art thumbnails | 19:19 |
| lardman | the code is in the git repo | 19:19 |
| lardman | http://maemo.gitorious.org/maemo-af/hildon-thumbnail | 19:19 |
| Venemo_N900 | lardman: maybe that's the mediaartlocal directory's purpose? | 19:21 |
| lardman | no idea, I've not looked at all | 19:21 |
| lardman | anapospastos: have a look at the source and see if that's relevant, but you may still suffer from the bug unless you can patch the thumbnailer (I guess) and add it to the community ssu | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | lardman, /home/user/.cache afaik | 19:22 |
| lardman | thanks MohammadAG | 19:22 |
| lardman | anapospastos: you see that? ^ | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | /home/user/.cache/media-art/ | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | I could be wrong but... | 19:22 |
| MohammadAG | Nokia-N900:~# ls /home/user/.cache/media-art/ | wc -l | 19:23 |
| MohammadAG | 187 | 19:23 |
| lardman | if there's a problem with the way the thumbnailer works anyway it probably makes little difference | 19:23 |
| lardman | knowing where the cache is | 19:23 |
| MohammadAG | I get wrong album art on Ubuntu too | 19:23 |
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| MohammadAG | it's tracker, for sure | 19:23 |
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| lardman | well adding a newer better version of tracker would be a worthwhile cssu goal | 19:24 |
| lardman | for anyone brave enough to take it on that is :) | 19:24 |
| anapospastos | output of ls /home/user/.cache/media-art/ | wc -l is 75 | 19:24 |
| pupnik | how about a tracker based on locate/updatedb | 19:24 |
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| lardman | cu chaps tomorrow | 19:26 |
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| anapospastos | I deleted the cache files and I ran tracker-processes -r but no | 19:31 |
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| MohammadAG | you could try /home/user/.thumbails/fail | 19:39 |
| MohammadAG | appropriately title if I may add | 19:39 |
| MohammadAG | /home/user/.thumbnails/fail/hildon-thumbnail | 19:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | <YAAAAWN> | 19:41 |
| anapospastos | tracker-processes -r is the correct cmd to "refresh" them? | 19:43 |
| MohammadAG | not those, no | 19:46 |
| MohammadAG | rm -rf the folder, might cause high CPU usage | 19:46 |
| MohammadAG | oh and titled* 3 sentences back | 19:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~spank lardman|gone for suggesting yet another tracker sh*t | 19:46 |
| * infobot bends lardman|gone for suggesting yet another tracker sh*t over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on lardman|gone for suggesting yet another tracker sh*t's pasty white buttocks. | 19:46 | |
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| anapospastos | it's gst-video-thumb process that causing high cpu usage | 19:49 |
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| anapospastos | rebooted but the problem remains, oh:( | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | gst-video-thumb?? what a useless cruft is THAT? | 19:51 |
| ruskie | makes video thumbnails for tracker!!! | 19:51 |
| ruskie | gah | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | I hope that's not thumbnails of videos | 19:51 |
| ruskie | I hate indexers... | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | better | 19:51 |
| MohammadAG | thumbnails for the position you paused the video at | 19:52 |
| ruskie | even better yeah | 19:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | OMFG | 19:52 |
| MohammadAG | effectively, it has to play the second you were on, then take an image of that | 19:52 |
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| ruskie | let's open... seek to time index... grab frame | 19:52 |
| MohammadAG | #define MAFW_METADATA_KEY_PAUSED_THUMBNAIL_URI "paused-thumbnail-uri" | 19:52 |
| MohammadAG | URI pointing to the thumbnail of the frame where video was paused. Its value is a string. | 19:52 |
| MohammadAG | working with mafw taught me a lot | 19:53 |
| Venemo_N900 | MohammadAG :) | 19:53 |
| anapospastos | where else I can find thumbs? | 19:53 |
| Proteous | the morgue? | 19:54 |
| MohammadAG | each album in MyDocs | 19:54 |
| anapospastos | :) | 19:54 |
| Venemo_N900 | Proteous: lol | 19:54 |
| Proteous | belive me, they aren't cheap | 19:54 |
| anapospastos | I ve erased them all (the albums) | 19:55 |
| MohammadAG | ./.mediaartlocal/ in each folder with mediaart/music with media art | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | PLEASE kill that with fire | 19:55 |
| MohammadAG | did you erase the hidden folder? if there was one... | 19:55 |
| MohammadAG | oh right, and when a song has embedded album art, it's copied to /tmp then a URI is sent over DBus | 19:55 |
| anapospastos | pff | 19:55 |
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| MohammadAG | btw | 19:56 |
| MohammadAG | does S360 ring a bell for anyone? | 19:56 |
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| MohammadAG | it's in the stock player's gconf schema | 19:56 |
| ruskie | MohammadAG, erm? some vodafone LiMo phone? | 19:57 |
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| Venemo_N900 | it will definitely ring a bell for google | 19:58 |
| anapospastos | I deleted ./.mediaartlocal/ folders too | 19:59 |
| MohammadAG | not for the stock player :P | 19:59 |
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| anapospastos | if I flash with vanilla it probably will be solved right? | 20:07 |
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| MohammadAG | the eMMC image? yes | 20:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | isn't S360 a Siemens big iron? | 20:13 |
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| DocScrutinizer | oops, IBM S/360 | 20:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360 | 20:15 |
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| anapospastos | and how do I know that it wont appear again? I dont know probably.. | 20:22 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you know. There's hardly anything left over when flasshing eMMC (plus inevitably rootfs/COMBINED) | 20:25 |
| Venemo_N900 | hardly anything? | 20:26 |
| Venemo_N900 | I thought nothing | 20:26 |
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| anapospastos | I mean if it will be reproduced | 20:26 |
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| MohammadAG | Venemo_N900, kernels logs remain on the MTD blocks :p | 20:42 |
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| pupnik | woohoo daimonin client perfectly scaled at 800x480 | 21:24 |
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| Sc0rpius | thoughts: | 21:25 |
| Sc0rpius | http://paidcontent.org/images/editorial/_original/global-os-marketshare-feb.2011-o.png | 21:25 |
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| pupnik | wow blackberry doing well in uk | 21:26 |
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| pupnik | wonder if those numbers are real | 21:26 |
| wmarone | that japan statistic is BS | 21:27 |
| Sc0rpius | they are | 21:28 |
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| Sc0rpius | I don't know about Japan | 21:29 |
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| Sc0rpius | but look at Canada, that can't be real | 21:29 |
| wmarone | only one carrier in Japan offers the iPhone, Softbank | 21:29 |
| pupnik | maybe it was a survey? | 21:30 |
| wmarone | this is selective data, and not enough information is at hand to determine what the selection was | 21:30 |
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| sp3000 | well it does state the data source | 21:31 |
| sp3000 | which is a generic website stats thing | 21:31 |
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| Sc0rpius | yeah | 21:32 |
| Sc0rpius | but I think Apple was given more than it really has | 21:32 |
| sp3000 | which will have interesting bias in various ways | 21:32 |
| sp3000 | which makes it an interesting graphic, but the title seems a fair bit off | 21:33 |
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| sp3000 | heh, maemo browser has 4-5% in finland there ;) | 21:38 |
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| sp3000 | (in mobile browsers.) | 21:40 |
| pupnik | check out daimonin client rescaled http://i.imgur.com/IgVHP.png | 21:40 |
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| RST38h | Moo all | 21:47 |
| pupnik | meew | 21:47 |
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| Sc0rpius | pupnik, that looks like fun | 21:52 |
| Sc0rpius | it's an online RPG game? | 21:52 |
| ruskie | something like that | 21:53 |
| pupnik | yes it needs a new gen of players | 21:54 |
| MohammadAG | chem|st, you might wanna deal with this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=71255&page=2 | 21:55 |
| Sc0rpius | if that sak500 "jumped ship" why is he still bothers to post | 21:56 |
| Sc0rpius | -is | 21:56 |
| RST38h | butthurt? | 21:58 |
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| Venemo | Sc0rpius, many guys who don't care about Maemo at all go to maemo.org and TMO "for the lulz" | 22:09 |
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| pupnik | Sc0rpius: yeah it's got very small font though, so i don't know how playable it will be on n900 | 22:11 |
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| pupnik | of course a heavy UI rewrite for more modal menus is possible but who has the time | 22:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | meh, reggie been too fast, I missed all the lulz | 22:20 |
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| mdnneo | hi all, i got a question on g_ether i could start it through modprobe g_ether and conigure through ipconfigure usb0 .... up | 22:28 |
| mdnneo | if i then try to ping the io given in ifcofigure nothing happens | 22:29 |
| mdnneo | sorry not io .. ip | 22:29 |
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| pupnik | pinging the interface from the n900? | 22:31 |
| mdnneo | yes ... so to say. i just want to ping myself. shouldnt this be possible? | 22:32 |
| pupnik | i guess you could check your route with route -n | 22:32 |
| pupnik | are you root? | 22:32 |
| mdnneo | yes im root | 22:32 |
| pupnik | i don't recall what it needs | 22:34 |
| pupnik | i think there was something in modprobe.d | 22:34 |
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| mdnneo | is their an other way to check if my g_ether work propperly? my problem is if i attach my device to my pc (with win7) it didnt find a propper driver (i tryed with the linux.inf rndis driver) but it always says unknown device | 22:38 |
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| DocScrutinizer | err, you need a local IP for the NIC, and a IP for the 'other end', and you need a proper default gateway in route | 22:39 |
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| mdnneo | wow ... can you maybe give some more details im pretty new to all this stuff. i just tried the same in my ubuntu virtualbox (with modprobe g_ether and ifconfig and there i can ping "myself" | 22:42 |
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| mdnneo | so i thought pinging my self were a first good test | 22:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, seems yur maemo side is ok then. Sorry I got no idea whatsoever about Windows | 22:43 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ping "yourself" means? I hope you ping the N900 from PC (or vice versa) | 22:44 |
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| mdnneo | no i try to ping th n900 from itself | 22:45 |
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| vista_flasher | Hello everyone, im trying to flash my N900 but having some problems. Im running vista, and when typing in the .bin file it responds with "....ARM.bin: %m", so it finds the device but its not able to flash. any suggestions are welcome! :) | 22:48 |
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| pupnik | can't find my cable mdnneo sorry | 22:49 |
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| pupnik | mdnneo: did you see this? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34690 | 22:50 |
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| pupnik | hi vista_flasher please link to the instructions you are following | 22:50 |
| andre__ | vista_flasher, which exact full command to you use for flashing? | 22:50 |
| vista_flasher | Thanks for the fast response! These are the instructions im following: http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 22:51 |
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| vista_flasher | Tried googling for the %m but didnt come up with anything... do you think flashing the eMMC will solve my problem? | 22:52 |
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| pupnik | i have no experience with that windows flasher | 22:55 |
| Proteous | pupniks stock answer | 22:56 |
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| pupnik | Proteous: feel free to help | 22:56 |
| Proteous | heh | 22:56 |
| Proteous | It's been a while since I've flashed my n900 | 22:57 |
| pupnik | perhaps the file you downloaded is wrong vista_flasher -- what is the file size? | 22:57 |
| pupnik | check against the size listed on the download page | 22:58 |
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| Proteous | are you using 32 or 64bit vista? | 22:58 |
| andre__ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=53344 post 13 and further seems to be the same issue (%m) | 23:00 |
| vista_flasher | im using 32bit vista | 23:00 |
| pupnik | i would be so lost without grep | 23:01 |
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| vista_flasher | the filesize is ok | 23:02 |
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| vista_flasher | still error msg: "C:\Program Files\maemo\flasher-3.5>flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_2.2009.51-1_P R_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R flasher v2.5.2 (Sep 24 2009) RX-51_2009SE_2.2009.51-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin: %m" | 23:07 |
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| vista_flasher | Checked the documentation but cant find anything on "%m", would help if I knew what it ment :) | 23:09 |
| mdnneo | ok thanks for your help so far ... will check some things and come back =) .. cya | 23:10 |
| pupnik | why is there a space between P and R vista_flasher ? | 23:11 |
| vista_flasher | because the window breaked there | 23:12 |
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| vista_flasher | ohh is that what they ment that it cant handle the spaces, should try putting it in C: instead :D | 23:13 |
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| pupnik | putting spaces in filenames is just one evil thing microsoft started | 23:14 |
| wmarone | nonsense, you've been able to do it on *nix and MacOS back when Windows was still limited to 8.3 | 23:15 |
| wmarone | never mind that people will do it anyway | 23:15 |
| * Arkenoi started with 6.3 | 23:18 | |
| vista_flasher | still no luck, still that %m showing up... | 23:19 |
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| zanberdo | installed firefox 4 on my n900. would like to enable flash, but the add-on flash enable does not work with this version. is there another way to enable flash for ff 4 or should I just skip it? | 23:23 |
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| kerio | i'd skip firefox | 23:23 |
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| zanberdo | why? | 23:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | vista_flasher: check for *full* p:ath/filename to the file to flash. Use tab completion | 23:24 |
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| vista_flasher | DocScrutinizer, you were right, I did mispell the flashfile | 23:27 |
| vista_flasher | is it normal for it to just take 33 seconds? ... | 23:28 |
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| vista_flasher | lol it got bricked during flash :o | 23:29 |
| SpeedEvil | It will take several minutes to boot first time agter flash | 23:30 |
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| vista_flasher | i will have to flash eMMC | 23:30 |
| vista_flasher | doing it on another computer this, this one sux. darn vista......... | 23:31 |
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| sp3000 | http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-an-monthly-201003-201102 | 23:46 |
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