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| wazd | Just saw District 9, awesome movie | 00:00 |
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| VDVsx | lol | 00:02 |
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| javispedro | so, wazd, did you get mokion sickness? | 00:02 |
| VDVsx | someone was cursing that movie a while back | 00:02 |
| javispedro | me. | 00:02 |
| javispedro | :D | 00:02 |
| Firebird | meh, they didn't come back :o | 00:02 |
| wazd | javispedro: aw cmon, at least it's a movie bout aliens with unique story :) | 00:03 |
| javispedro | yeah, but (sorry to repeat myself) the shaky cam killed it for me. | 00:03 |
| Firebird | javispedro, wasn't that shaky | 00:04 |
| wazd | javispedro: well, that was the narrating style :) Reminds me Cloverfield :) | 00:04 |
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| wazd | Firebird: yeah, it wasn't disrurbing for me | 00:04 |
| wazd | Firebird: in fact I was too intrigued to notice it :) | 00:04 |
| Firebird | heh, I didn't like the end though, was totally expecting them to return in the same movie | 00:05 |
| javispedro | :P | 00:05 |
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| Firebird | so I guess in 3 years - "District 10" | 00:06 |
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| wazd | Firebird: well, then you'd complain "meh. 4 hour movie?!" | 00:06 |
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| Firebird | well didn't realize it was that long :D | 00:07 |
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| GeneralAntilles | wazd, I really dug the originality of the alien tech. | 00:15 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Most scifi these days seems to reprise all of the same stuff. | 00:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | But they had some interesting new stuff (that actually FELT powerful). | 00:15 |
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| GeneralAntilles | It was weird how they shifted from the mockumentary to a narrative about how inhuman things can be human back to a mockumentary. | 00:16 |
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| divide_by_zero | I saw Drag me to hell the other day. I liked the _lack_ of originality... Just plain old-school demons and ghost stuff! :) (actually, there is a lot of original stuff, but I liked the fact that ghosts were not that flickery thing that we see these days) | 00:26 |
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| slonopotamus | weird | 00:42 |
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| slonopotamus | libcal and zlib understanding of crc32 doesn't match :( | 00:42 |
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| slonopotamus | Luke-Jr, i'm in trouble. i can't figure out how to calculate crc32 in compatible with libcal manner :/ | 00:48 |
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| slonopotamus | Expected 0x402ddf85 but got 0x4f96b2d1 | 00:50 |
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| slonopotamus | Expected 0xcd26aeb1 but got 0xc25a5342 | 00:50 |
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| slonopotamus | any pattern? :D | 00:51 |
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| wazd | oh, Skype guy will be at the Summit! | 01:01 |
| wazd | Nice | 01:01 |
| wazd | TomTom guy will be at the Summit! | 01:01 |
| wazd | Hmm-Hmm :) | 01:01 |
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| pupnik | ACEMD is a production-class bio-molecular dynamics (MD) simulation program designed specifically for GPUs which is able to achieve supercomputing scale performance of 40 nanoseconds /day for all-atom protein systems with over 23,000 atoms. With GPU technology it has become possible to run a microsecond-long trajectory for an all-atom molecular system in explicit water on a single workstation computer equipped with just 3 GPUs. | 01:02 |
| pupnik | so they simulate 23000 atoms for 40 nanoseconds, with a day of computing | 01:02 |
| slonopotamus | supercomputing scale performance! | 01:03 |
| pupnik | i think there's something creepy or cool about simulating the universe, using the universe | 01:04 |
| VDVsx | wazd, TomTom ? | 01:04 |
| VDVsx | in the schedule ? | 01:05 |
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| lcuk | pupnik, not at all | 01:05 |
| slonopotamus | pupnik, don't you expect them to build small lab copy of it? :) | 01:05 |
| lcuk | its like my missus, the sim people in her sims game can sit down at a computer and play sims | 01:06 |
| wazd | VDVsx: nope, just registered as a participant | 01:06 |
| pupnik | no, just simpler 'universes' which may grow in complexity | 01:06 |
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| VDVsx | wazd, That's keesj ;) | 01:07 |
| pupnik | for e.g. modeling cellular communication | 01:07 |
| VDVsx | Maemo community council member :) | 01:07 |
| pupnik | that is the key to curing cancer | 01:07 |
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| wazd | VDVsx: oh :) | 01:07 |
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| pupnik | unless you can simulate entire cells, and _and_ cell systems, you can't predict how changes in dna (dna therapy) can fix things | 01:08 |
| lcuk | pupnik, unfortunately, the radiation given off by that super machine shortens the lifespan of any operators :'( | 01:08 |
| pupnik | etc | 01:08 |
| pupnik | while resources are scarce, you can focus on some key things, like protein folding | 01:09 |
| lcuk | i think it would be better to use computers to do something productive and useful | 01:09 |
| lcuk | like a flickr ORC machine | 01:09 |
| lcuk | OCR | 01:09 |
| pupnik | i'd prefer re-focusing on medical tech | 01:09 |
| lcuk | to automatically detect and scan all written language from the whole of flickr | 01:09 |
| pupnik | fixing cancer, other diseases | 01:10 |
| pupnik | or giving ppl super-easy-to-use tablets on little stands for their hospital stay | 01:10 |
| lcuk | i actually agree with the tablet idea - but they get lost - in hospitals around here, they have smallish 7" units which have a phone | 01:11 |
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| lcuk | and are on a swivel arm | 01:11 |
| luis_ | hello | 01:12 |
| lcuk | the patient always has it nearby and headphones etc | 01:12 |
| luis_ | can someone answer me a question? | 01:12 |
| wazd | luis_: no, until you ask :) | 01:13 |
| luis_ | hehe... i have a N800 | 01:13 |
| luis_ | and i wanted to know if the new maemo 5 will be compatible | 01:14 |
| wazd | luis_: nope | 01:14 |
| pupnik | they *do* lcuk ? | 01:14 |
| luis_ | because of the keyboard? | 01:14 |
| lcuk | yeah | 01:14 |
| lcuk | had em for years now | 01:14 |
| pupnik | dude that is freakin great | 01:14 |
| wazd | luis_: because of the many things | 01:14 |
| pupnik | what? | 01:14 |
| Jaffa | luis_: Afraid not. However, there is a community effort which will be providing a "backport" http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer | 01:14 |
| wazd | luis_: OpenGL hardware for instance, slow processor and other stuff | 01:15 |
| lcuk | pupnik, http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=patientline | 01:15 |
| luis_ | wazd: so the N800 was abandonated | 01:15 |
| Jaffa | luis_: Mostly due to the much superior speed of OMAP3430 in Maemo 5 devices compared with the OMAP2 in an N8x0, and the lack of publishable 3D gfx drivers which will make the Clutter-based shiny UI work well. | 01:15 |
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| lardman | evening all | 01:15 |
| lcuk | hiya lardman \o | 01:16 |
| wazd | lardman: heya | 01:16 |
| Jaffa | luis_: Nokia are doing unprecedented levels of support to the community on Mer, it's a 3 year old machine and you've had several updates. <shrug/> | 01:16 |
| lardman | hey guys | 01:16 |
| Jaffa | There's a limit to when it's commercially sensible to break your back, and constrain your future, to support a wildly different device. | 01:16 |
| Jaffa | lardman: heya | 01:16 |
| luis_ | Jaffa: So the better thing to do is buyng a N810? | 01:17 |
| lardman | hi Jaffa | 01:17 |
| wazd | luis_: no | 01:17 |
| wazd | luis_: it's abandoned too | 01:17 |
| lardman | luis_: they are cheap, and useful | 01:17 |
| lardman | luis_: and not abandoned by us ;) | 01:17 |
| lcuk | he already has an800 | 01:17 |
| lardman | ah ok | 01:18 |
| wazd | luis_: Better wait for new tablet, heavilly rumored in last few days | 01:18 |
| Jaffa | luis_: The N810 is the same platform as the N800 (hence the N8x0 designation often used). If you want a Maemo 5 device, buy RX-51 when it's launched (or RX-71 at some point in the future, presumably) | 01:18 |
| lardman | well the n810 is far better as it has a kb :p | 01:18 |
| lardman | :) | 01:18 |
| Jaffa | lardman+1 | 01:18 |
| lcuk | luis_, the 810 will give you a hw keyboard and gps but essentially the machine is the same | 01:18 |
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| lardman | yeah, if you don't care about a kb then stick with the n800 and wait, the n810 GPS is rubbish, and the lack of radio is annoying | 01:18 |
| * lcuk waits for the RX-91 with mr Fusion powersource | 01:18 | |
| lardman | hmm, I tihnk the rx-71 has that actually ;) | 01:19 |
| lcuk | and a toaster | 01:19 |
| lcuk | :D | 01:19 |
| lardman | ah, no fission, got it wrong | 01:19 |
| lcuk | doh! | 01:19 |
| lardman | yeag, fission is better, no stray magnetic fields :) | 01:19 |
| lcuk | yeah they couldnt add a floppy drive if they used fusion | 01:20 |
| * lardman is not best pleased as it looks like he has to go to work tomorrow, again | 01:20 | |
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| lcuk | were you expecting some sort of natural disaster blocking the road? | 01:20 |
| luis_ | i dont mather about the keyboard, i'm just preocupated about software suport | 01:20 |
| lardman | nah, holiday, assuming the sun comes out | 01:20 |
| lcuk | ahh | 01:21 |
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| lardman | luis_: n800/n810 are the same in that respect | 01:21 |
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| lardman | lcuk: but now have stuff to do, have to sort out someone's paper, conferences, stuff | 01:21 |
| lcuk | never ending stream | 01:21 |
| Jaffa | Good news: I left work early feeling shit; having had several flu like symptoms. The much vaunted "swine flu symptom checker" tells me to ring the untrained monkeys in a call centre to get a diagnosis. Fun fun fun. | 01:22 |
| lardman | yeah | 01:22 |
| lardman | Jaffa: already had it, not too bad (he says) | 01:22 |
| Jaffa | So, I might give them a ring in the morning if I still feel 'orrible. At the moment, I'm too tired and bunged up to think about moving up to bed. | 01:22 |
| lardman | Jaffa: not sure if it was the real deal mind you, so I made sure I went into work all week | 01:22 |
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| lcuk | thanks! | 01:23 |
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| lcuk | you helped spread your germs | 01:23 |
| Jaffa | lardman: This didn't feel too bad, until 6 hours in to a stuffy air conditioned office. And blocked sinuses bring on a migraine :-/ | 01:23 |
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| zerojayPC | Jaffa: I've been having flu symptoms since Thursday night.. slept maybe 8 hours since then and I've spit up about a half litre of fluid from my lungs. | 01:23 |
| lcuk | luke comes back from camp on friday, i bet he brings diseases back | 01:23 |
| lardman | swine flu has a great effect on queues, you mention your wife has it and you don't feel too hot, and suddenly the queue evaporates | 01:23 |
| luis_ | lardman: the better to do is wait for the rx series? | 01:23 |
| Jaffa | Not a good time for me to be off work, tho'. Admittedly, better me than *everyone*. So maybe working from home. | 01:23 |
| lardman | luis_: in your position yes | 01:23 |
| zerojayPC | Jaffa: Yeah, that's the choice I made today. I was out Friday too. | 01:23 |
| Jaffa | zerojayPC: Sounds nice. | 01:23 |
| lcuk | luis_, if you have a defined need, no get yourself an 810 and enjoy it | 01:23 |
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| lcuk | if you are just fishing, go read the web | 01:24 |
| zerojayPC | Jaffa: Looks even nicer. Imagine snot tentacles in yellow liquid. :/ | 01:24 |
| luis_ | lardman: i just hope don't take too long to arrive in brazil... | 01:24 |
| lardman | luis_: but as you have an n800, you probably don't need it unless you are dying for a kb | 01:24 |
| Jaffa | Certainly if you're price conscious, buy an N810 now or the glut on teh second hand market in a few months. | 01:24 |
| Jaffa | But since you've got an N800, I'd wait. | 01:24 |
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| lardman | brand new they are only £129 which is pretty good | 01:25 |
| lardman | that's over here of course ;) | 01:25 |
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| luis_ | in brazil the N810 is R$1000, about USD500 | 01:26 |
| lardman | ouch, definitely wait then | 01:27 |
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| luis_ | that's the problem of a plataform that is constantly updated | 01:28 |
| luis_ | the support also ends faster | 01:28 |
| Jaffa | That's the problem of mobile technology. | 01:29 |
| lardman | support should remain in place for the n800/n810 for a while yet | 01:29 |
| Jaffa | It's changing at the pace of home computers in the mid-80s | 01:29 |
| Jaffa | (nearly, anyway) | 01:29 |
| Jaffa | And the OMAP3 is the Archimedes of its generation ;-) | 01:30 |
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| lcuk | my mate had an archimedes | 01:32 |
| lcuk | the only game i ever saw was some hovering over landscape one | 01:32 |
| lardman | "your mate", aren't you always on about it?! | 01:32 |
| * lcuk doesnt know | 01:32 | |
| lardman | :D | 01:32 |
| lcuk | not i | 01:33 |
| lcuk | i had amiga | 01:33 |
| lardman | ah, ok | 01:33 |
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| Jaffa | lcuk: "Lander". A demo version of Zarch which came with it. | 01:33 |
| javispedro | heh | 01:33 |
| lcuk | was that the only game for it? | 01:33 |
| lcuk | i remember seeing the first ever full color image on any computr on an archie | 01:34 |
| javispedro | the only way I found to convince osso-games-launcher that the game is paused, and I have a valid state file for it is to do a self-rpc | 01:34 |
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| lcuk | it was a screencapture of home and away logo (bizarre i remember) | 01:34 |
| javispedro | every other app in the system can convince it to just do it, but not a plugin. | 01:34 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: No, there were more games than that ;-) | 01:34 |
| lcuk | javispedro, what does game launcher actually do | 01:35 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: ArcElite, for example, is considered the definitive version of Elite - the first verion of Elite where NPCs fought each *other*. Basically Oolite is an OSS remake of ArcElite and works very nicely :) | 01:35 |
| lcuk | dont say launches games | 01:35 |
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| lardman | anyone know off the top of their heads how OCR systems function? | 01:35 |
| javispedro | lcuk: launching games is way too much for it. it uses dbus for that. | 01:35 |
| luis_ | bye bye | 01:35 |
| lardman | bye luis_ | 01:36 |
| lcuk | :D lardman i think you just found the archie fan you thought was me ;) | 01:36 |
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| lardman | lol | 01:36 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: I don't deny it ;-) | 01:36 |
| lardman | I never had a computer back in those days, so they are all lumped in together for me | 01:36 |
| lardman | IBM XT all the way! | 01:36 |
| lcuk | lardman, it optically recognises things | 01:36 |
| * Jaffa had a BBC Model B up until 1994, then an A3010 (my first Arc with its shiny ARM250 :-)) | 01:36 | |
| Jaffa | Then in 1998, built a Redhat 5.2 x86 box. | 01:37 |
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| * lcuk had zx spectrum, amiga 500,1200 | 01:37 | |
| lcuk | then a break before having to use pcs | 01:37 |
| * Jaffa decides enough is enough. The feeling of megalomania got from approving/rejecting sponsorship requests should be taken in small doses to make it last. | 01:38 | |
| lcuk | and then i found this little maemo thing (obscure, you wont have heard of it) that reminded me of my amiga | 01:38 |
| * lardman had IBM XT (Dad's from work), then Psion II, 3, 3a, 5, then onto PCs | 01:38 | |
| lcuk | and i was in love again :) | 01:38 |
| javispedro | ~curse encapsulation | 01:38 |
| infobot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, encapsulation ! | 01:38 |
| lardman | Jaffa: can I say nice things to you to approve my request? | 01:38 |
| lardman | ;) | 01:39 |
| lardman | :D | 01:39 |
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| lcuk | lardman, ocr is VERY VERY VERY similar to the equations you need for your barcodes | 01:39 |
| slonopotamus | ~curse libcal crc | 01:39 |
| infobot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, libcal crc ! | 01:39 |
| lcuk | so i dunno why you are asking - they are related entities | 01:39 |
| lcuk | or is this a blonde moment ;) | 01:40 |
| * javispedro ponders wheter writing a 50KiB-ish every time the game closes will have a noticeable effect in nand life | 01:40 | |
| lcuk | jaffa, if i write you a program, can i has summit visit | 01:40 |
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| lcuk | javispedro, thats 2 pages of sketches | 01:41 |
| lcuk | considering how many pages ive got now i wouldnt imagine it would be notiable | 01:41 |
| lcuk | (it does wear level doesnt it?) | 01:41 |
| lardman | lcuk: was thinking of using correlation with a known set of masks | 01:41 |
| javispedro | for sure. | 01:41 |
| javispedro | lcuk, good to know :) | 01:42 |
| lcuk | lardmna, biggest ocr problem is rotation | 01:42 |
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| lardman | that can be dealt with in the correlation equation, though not a problem for me | 01:42 |
| lcuk | but you do like barcodes and reduce the working set to managable identifiable busy rectangles, then do what you can within them | 01:43 |
| lardman | avi file containing images with frequency written in the corner, need to analyse the images knowing the frequency | 01:43 |
| lcuk | o_O | 01:43 |
| lcuk | so its very limited ocr | 01:43 |
| lardman | yeah | 01:43 |
| lcuk | ie, just something you know about, and could fudge | 01:43 |
| lcuk | cool | 01:43 |
| lcuk | thats a simpler prop then | 01:44 |
| lardman | best way! :) | 01:44 |
| lcuk | only way! | 01:44 |
| lardman | :D | 01:44 |
| lcuk | i tohught you were talking in general | 01:44 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Only program I want at the moment is a discount programme for an RX-51 ;-) | 01:44 |
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| lcuk | sorry, maximum app length is too long | 01:45 |
| lardman | anyway with ~100k frames to process, not sure the correlation overhead will be good, so may have to work out the exact framerate/freq incremement and use that without doing much more processing | 01:45 |
| lcuk | app builder wont accept "discount programme" :p | 01:45 |
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| lcuk | well within a working set, wont you get similarities anyway | 01:46 |
| lcuk | its the difference between me writing an HWR routine for my sketches, or one for all | 01:46 |
| lardman | well see, the dithering is not the greatest | 01:46 |
| lcuk | i *KNOW* i could get a system detecting mine quickly (ive done roughly in the past) | 01:46 |
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| * lardman wonders how pistachio nuts escape from almost closed shells.... | 01:46 | |
| lcuk | get the data and look | 01:46 |
| lcuk | you havent got a timing subband in the data do you ;) | 01:47 |
| lardman | yeah, am writing it now, just a bit bored creating the correlation masks | 01:47 |
| lardman | no, if only :) | 01:47 |
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| lcuk | wheres the data stream coming from? | 01:47 |
| lcuk | cos 100k frames is a lot | 01:47 |
| lcuk | (if you dont mind) | 01:47 |
| lardman | the wonders of video, it assumes you need ~25fps, but the system needs some time to settle between freq changes | 01:48 |
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| * javispedro hopes osso-g-s is not invoking my callback with a value whose definition is not on the public headers......... yes. ah... *sigh*. | 01:49 | |
| lardman | not a problem anyway, just wondering idly | 01:49 |
| lardman | javispedro: well are you really surprised? ;) | 01:49 |
| lcuk | ahhh only an hour of vid (at 25) | 01:50 |
| lcuk | soon adds up! | 01:50 |
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| lardman | indeed | 01:50 |
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| lardman | anyone know what the UK minimum wage is? | 01:53 |
| lcuk | http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nmw/ | 01:53 |
| lcuk | * £5.73 per hour for workers aged 22 years and older | 01:53 |
| lcuk | * A development rate of £4.77 per hour for workers aged 18-21 inclusive | 01:53 |
| lcuk | * £3.53 per hour for all workers under the age of 18, who are no longer of compulsory school age | 01:53 |
| lardman | Ah, I knew it, Luke been out earning his keep? ;) | 01:54 |
| lcuk | hes under school age | 01:54 |
| lcuk | i was wondering if you were hankering for a rise | 01:54 |
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| lardman | so you can charge more for his work as it's illegal? | 01:54 |
| lcuk | hes just come back from 3 day mission | 01:54 |
| lardman | nah, my wife is short staffed at work, and stressed, so I said I'd go in and help her, but I want to be paid! :D | 01:55 |
| lcuk | startin to miss us now, txts are more frequent and calls etc | 01:55 |
| lcuk | you have a heart of gold dude :) | 01:55 |
| lardman | well not having an angry and stressed wife is worth a pay cut (and it's holiday anyway) :) | 01:56 |
| lardman | though it's pretty tight for that sort of money! | 01:56 |
| lcuk | anything is worth not having an angry and stressed wife | 01:56 |
| lcuk | right, last try at something before bed | 01:57 |
| lcuk | gnite folks, have fun \o | 01:58 |
| lardman | night night | 01:58 |
| lcuk | dont work too hard simon | 01:58 |
| lardman | nah, going to hit the sack soon | 01:58 |
| lcuk | whats it done to you! | 01:58 |
| lardman | :) | 01:59 |
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| lardman | am also going to head for bed | 02:10 |
| lardman | night all | 02:10 |
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| amr | ditto | 02:12 |
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| Macer | yawn | 03:36 |
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| camahueto | Hi | 04:10 |
| camahueto | anyone can help me with reflashing mi N810? | 04:10 |
| camahueto | I can't do it following the instructions in wiki.maemo.org | 04:11 |
| camahueto | I don't know if it got something to do with the fact that I'm already using the latest version of diablo | 04:13 |
| camahueto | And I'm triying to reflash to that same version | 04:13 |
| camahueto | anyone? | 04:14 |
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| Macer | heh | 04:22 |
| Macer | had a bit of a hiccup with gentoo | 04:22 |
| Macer | and i think when i wake up the day after tomorrow | 04:22 |
| Macer | it will be all done haha | 04:23 |
| camahueto | Well, it seems there isn't anyone around here | 04:27 |
| camahueto | I mean not many people | 04:28 |
| kfx | 20:08 < camahueto> I can't do it following the instructions in wiki.maemo.org | 04:32 |
| kfx | we're going to need more information than this before we can offer any advice | 04:32 |
| camahueto | lol | 04:32 |
| camahueto | I was waiting for some reaction | 04:33 |
| camahueto | I tried to install an app and got out of memory | 04:33 |
| camahueto | I tried to erase the files | 04:33 |
| camahueto | using the command line and there was no answer | 04:33 |
| camahueto | so I reboot the device | 04:34 |
| camahueto | and now It keeps rebooting | 04:34 |
| camahueto | so I wanted to reflash | 04:34 |
| kfx | ok | 04:35 |
| camahueto | I followed the instructions on wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 04:35 |
| camahueto | in Kubuntu Jaunty | 04:35 |
| camahueto | and every single time I tried | 04:35 |
| camahueto | with the n810 in usb mode (I can't remember the name now, but with the usb icon on the top right corner) | 04:36 |
| camahueto | the Nokia logo just turned black&white | 04:36 |
| camahueto | and reboot (exiting the usb mode) | 04:37 |
| kfx | let's take this from the top | 04:37 |
| kfx | are you ready to walk through the process now? | 04:37 |
| camahueto | while the terminal stops the process | 04:37 |
| camahueto | when says: Version of 'sw-release': <no version> | 04:37 |
| camahueto | without saying anything else | 04:37 |
| camahueto | the complete exit of the terminal is: USB device found found at bus 002, device address 037 | 04:38 |
| camahueto | Found device RX-44, hardware revision 0805 | 04:38 |
| camahueto | NOLO version 1.1.16 | 04:38 |
| camahueto | Version of 'sw-release': <no version> | 04:38 |
| camahueto | ok | 04:38 |
| camahueto | I'm ready | 04:39 |
| kfx | the n810 is off, correct? | 04:39 |
| camahueto | ok | 04:39 |
| camahueto | it is | 04:39 |
| kfx | make sure it's not plugged in to charge | 04:39 |
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| camahueto | it is not | 04:39 |
| kfx | then connect it via usb without turning it on | 04:39 |
| camahueto | it's connected | 04:40 |
| camahueto | and it's off | 04:40 |
| kfx | open a root prompt in a terminal | 04:40 |
| camahueto | ok | 04:40 |
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| kfx | here's the command you want to run | 04:41 |
| kfx | ./flasher-3.0-static -F RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM -f -R | 04:41 |
| camahueto | I runned the same without the f | 04:41 |
| camahueto | sorry without the -F | 04:42 |
| camahueto | and happened what I just described | 04:42 |
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| camahueto | and when I did tried with the -F | 04:42 |
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| camahueto | it said: RX-44_Diablo_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin: No such file or directory | 04:42 |
| zerojayPC | Yeah, you need to download that. | 04:42 |
| camahueto | but when I run it without the -F | 04:43 |
| camahueto | it says: Suitable USB device not found, waiting | 04:43 |
| kfx | ok that doesn't matter | 04:43 |
| zerojayPC | You're trying to reflash, correct? | 04:43 |
| camahueto | yeah | 04:43 |
| camahueto | I need another image? | 04:43 |
| zerojayPC | Download that file. do not run it without the -F. | 04:43 |
| kfx | you need to run that command precisely | 04:43 |
| camahueto | yeah | 04:44 |
| camahueto | and I got the file | 04:44 |
| kfx | andc when you get suitable device not found, waiting | 04:44 |
| camahueto | when I run it without the -F | 04:44 |
| kfx | then you hold the home key and turn on the device | 04:44 |
| zerojayPC | Make sure the case matches. | 04:44 |
| camahueto | yeah, I'm sure it matches | 04:44 |
| zerojayPC | And that you have the file in the same directory as the flasher. | 04:44 |
| camahueto | yes | 04:44 |
| kfx | when you run it without -F it doesn't work | 04:45 |
| kfx | this should be a hint | 04:45 |
| camahueto | no | 04:45 |
| zerojayPC | Try this: ./flasher-3.0-static -F ./RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM -f -R | 04:45 |
| zerojayPC | er... | 04:45 |
| zerojayPC | Try this: ./flasher-3.0-static -F ./RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM -f -R <--- you might be missing the .bin at the end. | 04:45 |
| camahueto | no | 04:46 |
| camahueto | it's the same with or without the .bin | 04:47 |
| camahueto | (but with the -F before) | 04:47 |
| zerojayPC | You're doing this from a Linux machine, right? | 04:47 |
| camahueto | not such file or directory | 04:47 |
| camahueto | kubuntu jaunty | 04:47 |
| camahueto | to be more precise | 04:47 |
| zerojayPC | Then you simply don't have the correct image.. or you need to fix the command to match the file you have downloaded. | 04:48 |
| zerojayPC | Where did you get your image from? | 04:48 |
| camahueto | nokia | 04:48 |
| camahueto | in fact I flashed it with that image | 04:48 |
| camahueto | and I got the last one | 04:49 |
| zerojayPC | And does 'ls RX*.bin' show anything? | 04:49 |
| camahueto | "RX-44_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin" | 04:50 |
| camahueto | I will try redownloading the image | 04:50 |
| zerojayPC | I'd recheck the command as well. | 04:50 |
| zerojayPC | It looks correct though. | 04:50 |
| camahueto | yeah, In fact I have tried it before | 04:50 |
| camahueto | with the -F | 04:51 |
| camahueto | but I just don't know what happens | 04:51 |
| camahueto | and I will redownload the flasher too | 04:51 |
| camahueto | and tell you what happens | 04:51 |
| camahueto | in which distro are you? | 04:51 |
| zerojayPC | ArchLinux, but I've done the flashing across Debian, Gentoo, Ubuntu, Slackware, Yellow Dog and a few others. Never a problem. | 04:52 |
| camahueto | just because of this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30828 | 04:52 |
| camahueto | which shows problems in Ubuntu too | 04:52 |
| kfx | you're getting flasher-3.0-static, right | 04:52 |
| Macer | the saga continues | 04:52 |
| Macer | :) | 04:52 |
| camahueto | yep | 04:52 |
| Macer | wu tang | 04:52 |
| Macer | "-DVENDOR_RELEASE=(((1) * 10000000) + ((5) * 100000) + ((3) * 1000) + 0)" | 04:53 |
| zerojayPC | Are you holding down the swap button until it is found? | 04:53 |
| Macer | wow. doesn't that look serious? | 04:53 |
| Macer | wonder why the +0 at the end :) | 04:53 |
| Macer | that is some ugly looking math if that's what it is | 04:54 |
| camahueto | as a matter of fact, I tried the dapper version of the flasher after static didn't work, and It told me that I needed to use a newer version | 04:55 |
| Macer | why couldn't it just be (1*10000000) + (5*100000) + (3*1000) | 04:55 |
| camahueto | I'm holding the swap button | 04:55 |
| camahueto | and it got into usb mode | 04:56 |
| camahueto | and in fact something happens in the device, because the screen turns black&white for a second | 04:56 |
| camahueto | and then reboots to normal mode | 04:56 |
| zerojayPC | That's not good. Weird. | 04:58 |
| camahueto | don't tell me | 04:59 |
| camahueto | in the meantime I'm the proud owner of a piece of aluminium that doesn't work at all | 05:00 |
| camahueto | :-P | 05:00 |
| zerojayPC | Honestly, I don't know. | 05:00 |
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| camahueto | thanks anyway | 05:01 |
| Macer | hm | 05:01 |
| Macer | this keyboard | 05:01 |
| Macer | has lasted a VERY long time off some batteries | 05:01 |
| Macer | it's been like months | 05:02 |
| Macer | i kind of like debian on this pc tho :) | 05:02 |
| Macer | at least i can run kde4.3 heh | 05:02 |
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| camahueto | I think I will try reflashing it tomorrow using the windows version | 05:06 |
| camahueto | of the update tool | 05:06 |
| camahueto | and does anyone knows is there is a problem when I downgrade? | 05:07 |
| camahueto | using the diablo 4 image | 05:10 |
| camahueto | the same happens | 05:10 |
| camahueto | so it seems is a problem with the flasher | 05:10 |
| camahueto | or the os | 05:10 |
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| camahueto | so | 05:11 |
| camahueto | good night | 05:11 |
| camahueto | thanks all | 05:11 |
| camahueto | bye | 05:11 |
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| divide_by_zero | hi. does anybody know if I can write a python program usnig the gstreamer library to process the signal? Actually change the value of samples? (pixels or audio...) | 05:57 |
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| timeless_mbp | ¿hay alguien aquí que puede habla español? | 06:04 |
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| divide_by_zero | yo hablo "portuñol" :] | 06:11 |
| timeless_mbp | ir al https://account.nokia.com/acct/register?lang=es-419 | 06:13 |
| timeless_mbp | lee: Ingrese 3 a 32 caracteres. El nombre de usuario sólo puede contener números, '.', '-' y '_'. | 06:13 |
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| divide_by_zero | hmmm en portugués diz Introduza entre 3 e 32 caracteres. O nome de utilizador só pode conter letras, números, '.', '-' e '_'. | 06:20 |
| divide_by_zero | podemos usar letras também! ;) | 06:21 |
| timeless_mbp | solomente si su no habla espanol en las americas! | 06:22 |
| divide_by_zero | te tratam como se fosse apenas um número!! ;) | 06:24 |
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| Macer | finally got X in gentoo | 08:17 |
| Macer | ! | 08:17 |
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| divide_by_zero | gratz | 08:30 |
| divide_by_zero | what WM do you use? :] | 08:31 |
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| Macer | divide_by_zero: i'm about to try matchbox | 08:34 |
| Macer | ;) | 08:34 |
| Macer | since it's actually meant for this sort of thing | 08:35 |
| Macer | i dunno tho.. i might install a few of them | 08:35 |
| Macer | just to find out which works best | 08:35 |
| Macer | lord knows i'm not using the mer ui :) | 08:35 |
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| StsN810 | you still owe me a beer though, - building gentoo and installing matchbox in a fit of rage over maemo does qualify as insanity :P | 08:37 |
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| Macer | i wouldn't call it a fit of rage :) | 08:38 |
| Macer | heh | 08:38 |
| Macer | StsN810: use matchbox for mer :-P | 08:38 |
| Macer | or is that what you are using? | 08:38 |
| StsN810 | we do use matchbox, silly | 08:38 |
| StsN810 | we're switching to fvwm prolly though | 08:38 |
| Macer | i see | 08:39 |
| Macer | you are using a modded matchbox i'm guessing? | 08:39 |
| Macer | i'm just asking because i'm curious as to what it comes with on its own | 08:39 |
| StsN810 | patched but fixes only | 08:39 |
| StsN810 | a wm's a wm | 08:40 |
| Macer | i mean how would stock matchbox run apps? :) | 08:40 |
| StsN810 | app launcher | 08:40 |
| Macer | so it's the hildon stuff that is messed up? | 08:40 |
| StsN810 | mostly | 08:40 |
| Macer | well. let me go and play with it a bit. i'm sure i can read up on it and if all else fails then i'll use fluxbox | 08:40 |
| Macer | that might work well as a portable wm | 08:40 |
| Macer | it's rather lightweight and easy to configure | 08:41 |
| StsN810 | still qualifies as insanity.. how did you end up here from wanting to build on device? insanity. ;) | 08:41 |
| Macer | not really build | 08:42 |
| Macer | i wanted the device to act mor elike a computer and less like a tablet | 08:42 |
| Macer | the real goal is to use it for actual office work where i can type and print | 08:42 |
| Macer | well.. school work really :) | 08:43 |
| Macer | i can bust out my su8w and type a paper on the n810 and save it as an opendoc and just mosey into a supported wifi ap with a printer and just print it straight off the tablet | 08:43 |
| Macer | these are the things i would expect mer to focus on .. otherwise it will have no appeal to the masses | 08:43 |
| Macer | it will just be a fany boy toy | 08:44 |
| Macer | s/fany/fan | 08:44 |
| Macer | if maemo4 could have done this (which was possible considering cups was supported quite a while ago) maybe the device would have more support than it does now | 08:45 |
| Macer | hands down it beats a lot of what is out there with its net access | 08:45 |
| Macer | an user interface is great | 08:45 |
| Macer | it's just missing small features (like printing) which coudl have made it a powerhouse | 08:46 |
| Macer | especially with tear being able to render almost everything | 08:46 |
| StsN810 | sigh, we do focus on the computer part, you aren't looking close enough | 08:47 |
| Macer | heh. well. i'm sure that's true | 08:47 |
| Macer | but if i should have to look for it.. then it is hard to accept | 08:48 |
| Macer | with mer all i really expected was to get into the ui.. and be able to set up the wifi in the ui | 08:48 |
| Macer | and that wasn't possible with the default 0.15 install | 08:48 |
| Macer | because of a bug in the ui that doesn't allow you to edit the network | 08:48 |
| Macer | you'd probably be doing better if you didn't default enterance into the ui for now | 08:49 |
| StsN810 | bug in network manager -and- ui. it's fixed now | 08:49 |
| Macer | and kept people in the console | 08:49 |
| StsN810 | .... | 08:49 |
| StsN810 | now you sound like you'd want a freerunner instead | 08:49 |
| Macer | not true | 08:50 |
| Macer | if mer's ui was working a little better | 08:50 |
| Macer | then i'd use it ;) | 08:50 |
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| pupnik | this must be Macer's first experience with something that's "in-development" | 08:50 |
| Macer | but right now it isn't. mer would be more appealing if it were just considered a "bare ubuntu install" and allowed users who want to use it to install a different ui since the mer one isn't done yet | 08:51 |
| Macer | and have your install page give suggestions on pkgs they can install | 08:51 |
| Macer | and allow them to look at yours so they can try it out | 08:51 |
| Macer | and let them know it is very immature and a work in progress | 08:51 |
| Macer | either that or wait til it's done :) but by then joe user (who probably wouldnt swap off maemo anyways) would be left with a sour taste | 08:52 |
| pupnik | Macer: the cool kids don't yammer for days about bugs that have already been fixed | 08:52 |
| Macer | pupnik: hehe | 08:52 |
| StsN810 | macer, bare ubuntu install is a disaster. we tried that with deblet. | 08:53 |
| Macer | i'm not yammering about it | 08:53 |
| StsN810 | yes you are | 08:53 |
| Macer | :) oh. sorry. didn't mean to do that.. was just really making a suggestion | 08:53 |
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| StsN810 | you stated your view several times, how about you stop yammering and give us time to fix the problems instead of constantly having these pointless discussions with you? did you ever report the bugs you found? no. | 08:55 |
| Macer | in my defense i didn't state the "console only" pov earlier ;) | 08:56 |
| StsN810 | and reporting by complaining in channel is not a bug report. you stating users have to go through console to install is ridicolous. | 08:57 |
| Macer | sorry. wasn't saying it to be spiteful or anything, i was only making a suggestion. | 08:58 |
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| Luke-Jr | StsN810: you got something about Gentoo? :P | 08:59 |
| StsN810 | and out of touch with any reality but the 80s :) | 08:59 |
| StsN810 | luke-jr, gentoo users don't target same type of users as us | 09:00 |
| Macer | -pda | 09:00 |
| Macer | there's a pda flag? | 09:00 |
| divide_by_zero | I hope N900 feels mora like my old PDP-11 | 09:00 |
| Luke-Jr | :þ | 09:00 |
| StsN810 | you have your niche, we have ours | 09:01 |
| Luke-Jr | StsN810: but you called our niche insane :/ | 09:02 |
| * pupnik still has fat muscular fingers from the VT-100 "Bat-Terminals" | 09:02 | |
| pupnik | i think they wanted to slow typing down by pure physical resistance to keypresses | 09:03 |
| Macer | i wonder what the pda flag does | 09:03 |
| Macer | all it says in the desc is "adds pda support" | 09:03 |
| Macer | :) that's kind of vague | 09:03 |
| StsN810 | luke-jr, it's as insane as me spending so much time on Mer | 09:03 |
| StsN810 | same symptom | 09:04 |
| StsN810 | we just decided to try and fix things | 09:04 |
| Macer | Luke-Jr: can you make an unofficial install tarball for gentoo? | 09:04 |
| Macer | not you personally | 09:05 |
| Luke-Jr | Macer: wtf do you think the stage3 was? | 09:05 |
| Macer | a minimal install | 09:05 |
| Macer | i only wonder if it is possible to build one with all the n8x0 suppor built in | 09:06 |
| Luke-Jr | no. | 09:06 |
| Macer | and to also have one with X prebuilt | 09:06 |
| Luke-Jr | blame Nokia. | 09:06 |
| Macer | ? | 09:06 |
| Luke-Jr | that, yes. | 09:06 |
| Luke-Jr | but bin pkgs work just fine IMO | 09:06 |
| Macer | why no n8x0 stuff? lic? | 09:07 |
| Luke-Jr | yeah | 09:07 |
| Macer | ah ok | 09:07 |
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| divide_by_zero | how do I use the microphone as a gstreamer source? | 09:09 |
| Macer | blah screw it. let me go ahead and use this "pda" flag and see what it does | 09:10 |
| Macer | maybe it stops windows from flying off the screen or something :) | 09:10 |
| Macer | how bad are kde apps outside of kde? :) | 09:11 |
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| Macer | do they still suck up the entire n810? | 09:11 |
| Luke-Jr | I wouldn't know. | 09:12 |
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| Macer | ok :) tnx | 09:13 |
| slonopotamus | Macer, i think 'pda' flag will build kpilot :) | 09:13 |
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| Macer | slonopotamus: hehe. in matchbox? :) | 09:14 |
| slonopotamus | oh | 09:14 |
| slonopotamus | dunno then | 09:14 |
| Macer | although | 09:14 |
| Macer | kpilot sounds interesting | 09:14 |
| Macer | :) | 09:14 |
| Macer | maybe later | 09:14 |
| Macer | i still have 12G to play with | 09:15 |
| Macer | and X works | 09:15 |
| slonopotamus | hehe. usb host mode and connect palm to n810? :D | 09:15 |
| Macer | twm ftw | 09:15 |
| Macer | hell yeah haha | 09:15 |
| Macer | i'd get a palm just for that :) ... just to feel redundant | 09:15 |
| Macer | i'm building matchbox now | 09:16 |
| slonopotamus | i gave my m505 to wife. she uses it to read books | 09:16 |
| Macer | then once this all works.. i think i'm going to copy my SD somewhere for safe keeping | 09:16 |
| Macer | and work on the sound | 09:16 |
| Macer | just in case i break it :) | 09:16 |
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| Macer | haha. that's it? amazon has this book reading thing taht's supposed to be very good and it has a built in hspda modem for like $500 or something like that to buy books online while on the move | 09:17 |
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| Macer | the hspda service is "free" though ;) | 09:17 |
| sarower | how i can use text input field with a dialog..? | 09:18 |
| slonopotamus | i bought that palm for $30... | 09:18 |
| Macer | might not even be hspda.. probably slower stuff if it's just for books | 09:18 |
| Macer | slonopotamus: oh | 09:18 |
| sarower | for applet in maemo sdk 5 beta2 | 09:18 |
| Macer | well. yeah.. i guess that's a little cheaper :) | 09:18 |
| slonopotamus | yeah, a bit | 09:18 |
| sarower | anybody? | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | sarower: reading the manual for Gtk/Hildon probably | 09:18 |
| Macer | ah well. i'm going to get some sleep while this last thing builds.. see.. only took a day of total building time :) | 09:19 |
| Macer | only reason it took as long as it did was because one build failed while i was asleep and i expected everything to be fine | 09:19 |
| slonopotamus | Macer, 400mhz isn't so bad :) | 09:20 |
| Macer | slonopotamus: re-installiung expat didn't seem to do the trick | 09:20 |
| Macer | i had to symlink the lib to the "wrong dir" to get libXft to build | 09:20 |
| slonopotamus | no | 09:20 |
| Macer | ? | 09:20 |
| Macer | emerge -v1 expat | 09:21 |
| Macer | i tried that. didn't seem to work .. libXft still tried to find it in the /usr/arm.../usr/lib dir | 09:21 |
| slonopotamus | grep /usr/lib/*.la for that wrong path and rebuild packages with those files. i somehow screwed stage a bit | 09:21 |
| Macer | so i just made a symlink to /usr/lib there | 09:21 |
| Macer | ooooh | 09:22 |
| Macer | so it was just a symlink problem in the dir itself? | 09:22 |
| slonopotamus | i thought it only affected expat | 09:22 |
| Macer | like i said. it seemed faster just to symlink the wrong directory to where it was looking for it | 09:23 |
| Macer | :) | 09:23 |
| Macer | it affects more? | 09:23 |
| slonopotamus | Macer, that path came from crosscompiling env. dunno how | 09:23 |
| Macer | oh ok. well. i'll fix the symlinks soon | 09:23 |
| slonopotamus | grep /usr/arm /usr/lib/*.la | 09:23 |
| Macer | oh. that's it? | 09:24 |
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| slonopotamus | Macer, what does grep find? | 09:24 |
| Macer | /usr/lib/libXft.la:dependency_libs=' /usr/lib/libfontconfig.la /usr/lib/libexpat.la -L/usr/arm-gentoo-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib -L/usr/arm-gentoo-linux-gnueabi/lib /usr/lib/libfreetype.la -lz /usr/lib/libXrender.la /usr/lib/libX11.la /usr/lib/libXau.la /usr/lib/libXdmcp.la -ldl' | 09:25 |
| Macer | /usr/lib/libfontconfig.la:dependency_libs=' /usr/lib/libfreetype.la -lz /usr/arm-gentoo-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib/libexpat.la -L/usr/arm-gentoo-linux-gnueabi/usr/lib -L/usr/arm-gentoo-linux-gnueabi/lib' | 09:25 |
| Macer | probably finds all that because i symlinked the dir | 09:25 |
| Macer | no big deal :) | 09:25 |
| slonopotamus | no. because you built them with screwed expat | 09:25 |
| Macer | well. yeah that too | 09:25 |
| Macer | heh | 09:25 |
| Macer | but it should be a big problem | 09:25 |
| Macer | as long as i keep the symlink :) | 09:26 |
| slonopotamus | ah, ln -s /usr/arm-gentoo-linux-gnueabi/lib /usr/lib ? | 09:26 |
| divide_by_zero | it seems I always lose my rtcomm configuration, it keeps bringing up the 'make call" when I pop out the camera. is this a known issue? (it's the beta... :/ ) | 09:26 |
| Macer | yes | 09:26 |
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| slonopotamus | i should reupload fixed stage i think | 09:26 |
| slonopotamus | you can edit those la files manually | 09:27 |
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| Macer | gentoo-embedded doesn't fall under gentoo's bug reporting does it? | 09:29 |
| Macer | it's "unsupported" ? | 09:29 |
| slonopotamus | Macer, gentoo-embedded is just a subproject, like gentoo-java, for ex. use official bugzilla but before making sure bug isn't n8x0-specific. just specify 'arm' as arch. | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: IKEA catalogue.. dear god | 09:31 |
| qwerty12_N810 | It was for testing! | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | riight. | 09:31 |
| qwerty12_N810 | You won't believe how well seeded those things are... | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | you should have done the typical nerd thing and post screenshots accidentially of torrenting midget porn or something | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, those people scare me | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:32 |
| qwerty12_N810 | IKEA catalogue not geek enough? =) | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | for girls i guess ;) | 09:32 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | Heh | 09:33 |
| divide_by_zero | IKEA catalog = girl pr0n | 09:33 |
| divide_by_zero | allright, managed to hear myself talking with gstreamed... one step closer to my NIT vocoder!! | 09:34 |
| divide_by_zero | good night | 09:34 |
| Macer | hahahahah | 09:34 |
| qwerty12_N810 | It was either that or the weird torrents found at legaltorrents.com... | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | "richard stallman closeups"? ;) | 09:36 |
| qwerty12_N810 | legaltorrents - could almost be an oxymoron | 09:36 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | It's all about the BSD Daemon! | 09:37 |
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| slonopotamus_ | Macer, btw. of course it works! don't you think we were lying to everyone here about gentoo on NITs? | 09:46 |
| Stskeeps | you're not lying? :o | 09:47 |
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| Macer | lol | 09:50 |
| slonopotamus_ | Stskeeps, insaaaaane! :D | 09:51 |
| Macer | i'll pull out another SD and install mer on it for side by side screen shots | 09:52 |
| Macer | :) | 09:52 |
| Macer | i did think that X would take a week though. it really didn't take that long at all | 09:53 |
| Macer | (considering) | 09:53 |
| Macer | honestly i think i was a lot more happy when Luke-Jr put his keymap on the repo :) | 09:53 |
| Macer | console ftw | 09:53 |
| Macer | slonopotamus_: anybody ever consider making an ncurses based console kb for n800s? :) | 09:54 |
| Macer | hehe | 09:54 |
| Macer | have a little qwerty on the bottom with letters/numbers and have it semi-split-screen so you can type in the console with the dpad and middle button | 09:55 |
| slonopotamus_ | Macer, ncurses vkb? no | 09:55 |
| Macer | i mean it would take a year to do anything | 09:55 |
| Macer | but at least you can use it without the n810s qwerty heh | 09:55 |
| slonopotamus_ | Macer, i fixed wifi docs based on what we talked yesterday: http://slonopotamus.org/gentoo-on-n8x0/wireless#wifi | 09:59 |
| Macer | ah | 09:59 |
| Macer | you might want to make a "Full Setup" page | 10:00 |
| Macer | in case people want to install everything ;) | 10:00 |
| Macer | becuase if you go step by step through the various hardware you wind up adding use flags and having to rebuild the n8x0 stuff | 10:00 |
| slonopotamus_ | just open several pages :P | 10:00 |
| Macer | hehe | 10:01 |
| slonopotamus_ | n8x0-env is just empty package whose main purpose is pulling proper deps | 10:01 |
| Macer | yeah but having a one shot install that you can just leave sitting there and go on vacation for a week and come back when it's done would be cool :) | 10:04 |
| Macer | like. once i get the sound and printing working | 10:04 |
| Macer | i'm not going to touch it for years haha | 10:05 |
| Macer | and the bt keyboard but i'm sure that's not too hard | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | Luke-Jr: sound works oob on ordinary kernel for you? :P | 10:05 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:09 |
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| Stskeeps | morning Jaffa | 10:14 |
| slonopotamus | Jaffa, morm | 10:14 |
| slonopotamus | s/rm/rn/ | 10:14 |
| infobot | slonopotamus meant: Jaffa, morn | 10:14 |
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| Macer | hm. let me watch the half blood prince | 10:15 |
| Macer | i don't even like harry potter movies | 10:15 |
| Macer | the author of harry potter said the leader of harry's school was supposed to be homosexual :) some guy in australia had a giant tattoo of him on his back that he got for his children :) wow that must have sucked | 10:16 |
| Jaffa | Macer: Why would it suck? | 10:19 |
| liri | just thinking out loud here... was the option of an app-store for the n810 ever considered? | 10:19 |
| Macer | well. :) most straight men dont get giant rainbows across their back | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | liri: probably several times | 10:19 |
| Jaffa | Macer: Is the headmaster (name is Dumbledore) now not suitable for children if the author's intent was for him to be gay? | 10:19 |
| slonopotamus | liri, why? | 10:19 |
| Macer | Jaffa: didn't say that | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | liri: the inherit problem is piracy as linux is too open to avoid it :) | 10:19 |
| Macer | just thought it must have sucked for the guy to have a giant gay man across his back :) | 10:19 |
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| Jaffa | Macer: that statement could be misread if we didn't know we were talking about tattoos ;-) | 10:20 |
| liri | well I think that there is certainly a place for such store | 10:21 |
| Macer | Jaffa: haha | 10:21 |
| Macer | yeah. it was a tattoo | 10:21 |
| liri | one example is the PIM app | 10:21 |
| liri | the forum(s) are continually swamped with requests for such apps, some with ms exchange sync, some with google sync, etc... | 10:22 |
| liri | the current options do not satisfy most of us | 10:22 |
| slonopotamus | liri, ppl who deliberately chose linux, are very unlikely to but any software. | 10:22 |
| liri | I'd be happy to pay a good app | 10:22 |
| slonopotamus | s/but/buy/ | 10:22 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus: mobile devices is a different gameplay though | 10:22 |
| infobot | slonopotamus meant: liri, ppl who deliberately chose linux, are very unlikely to buy any software. | 10:22 |
| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, no | 10:22 |
| liri | slonopotamus: I don't agree. | 10:23 |
| Jaffa | liri: Someone *had* a paid PIM app. They don't sell it anymore (AFAIK) | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | even though i do enjoy open source, i will gladly pay for a good app | 10:23 |
| liri | slonopotamus: I think you're missing the concept of "free" :) | 10:23 |
| liri | Stskeeps: ofcourse we will | 10:23 |
| Jaffa | liri: And being *willing* to pay, and having the developers available to develop it so that you *can* pay aren't the same. | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | especially since i know very well that it costs to be a developer | 10:23 |
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| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, don't tell be about ringtones and j2me apps, pls :) | 10:24 |
| liri | Stskeeps: open source has nothing to do with money | 10:24 |
| Jaffa | liri: It's worth bearing in mind that Maemo 5 will have some kind of calendar app OOTB (AFAWCT) | 10:24 |
| slonopotamus | aaargh | 10:24 |
| slonopotamus | s/be/me/ | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus: i said good apps.. | 10:24 |
| Stskeeps | liri: i know that - people keep on forgetting nothing stops people from selling open source :P | 10:24 |
| liri | Stskeeps: yeah | 10:24 |
| Jaffa | liri: This is similar to a recent discussion on http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30799 | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | except it's not really a sustainable business model | 10:25 |
| liri | Stskeeps: sure it is | 10:25 |
| Jaffa | liri: If the app's open source and it's trivial to rebuild it, someone will and offer it for free | 10:26 |
| Jaffa | The only way that works is if there's a suitably large barrier to entry (such as the App Store fee for iPhone, or complicated builds of Linux stuff on Windows) | 10:26 |
| Stskeeps | the question is however if people will pay gladly to support upstream development | 10:26 |
| liri | well, I do believe so | 10:28 |
| liri | I really don't have the time to get into it right now. I just wanted to know if this idea was ever considered | 10:29 |
| Stskeeps | yes, obviously :) | 10:29 |
| pupnik | translator for maemo. with OCR from webcam. | 10:29 |
| pupnik | who want build | 10:30 |
| pupnik | :) | 10:30 |
| Stskeeps | Myrtti: ping | 10:30 |
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| slonopotamus | can someone calculate crc32 for me, plz? | 10:34 |
| slonopotamus | data: 'ask:mmc1' (without quotes) | 10:34 |
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| slonopotamus | oh, no, 'ask:mmc1\0' | 10:35 |
| pupnik | CRC-320x7C36E41F | 10:37 |
| pupnik | CRC-32 0x7C36E41F | 10:37 |
| pupnik | http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info/crc-calculation.html?crc=ask%3Ammc1\0&method=ascii On-line CRC calculation and free library | 10:38 |
| pupnik | i couldn't find it for linux. bsd 'sum' can do it iirc | 10:38 |
| Myrtti | Stskeeps: pong | 10:39 |
| slonopotamus | \0 is one symbol... | 10:39 |
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| slonopotamus | wait | 10:40 |
| slonopotamus | http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info/crc-calculation.html?crc=ask%3Ammc1&method=ascii matches what i get. but libcal gets 0xde2e7ade somehow :( | 10:41 |
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| Jaffa | slonopotamus: Might libcal be working with a reversed string? | 10:44 |
| Jaffa | slonopotamus: Of course, you can't put the NUL in in a URL... | 10:44 |
| slonopotamus | Jaffa, that would be insane | 10:45 |
| Jaffa | andrew@serenity:~$ for i in '' '-r' '-s'; do echo -e 'ask:mmc1\0' | sum $i; done | 10:45 |
| Jaffa | 14767 1 | 10:45 |
| Jaffa | 14767 1 | 10:45 |
| Jaffa | 753 1 | 10:45 |
| Jaffa | '-r' and '-s' choose between BSD or SysV implementations | 10:46 |
| slonopotamus | no, not reverse | 10:49 |
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| Jaffa | slonopotamus: Ah, hang on. For 'ask:mmc1<NUL>', cfv gives ac342ff5 | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus: CRC of whole block maybe? :P | 10:50 |
| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, there are separate data_crc and hdr_crc | 10:50 |
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| slonopotamus | Jaffa, forget that, no \0. length is 8, no null terminator | 10:51 |
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| Jaffa | slonopotamus: OK, for just 'ask:mmc1', cfv gives 67692c19 as the CRC-32 | 10:51 |
| slonopotamus | ... that online tool gave 0xbb0ca5b7, what matches to what i get here :/ | 10:52 |
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| slonopotamus | crap | 10:53 |
| slonopotamus | i hope they didn't xor it with smth magical :) | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | big endian or little endian? | 10:54 |
| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, unsigned | 10:54 |
| slonopotamus | hm | 10:55 |
| slonopotamus | proper crc32 doesn't depend on endianness | 10:55 |
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| zakkmm | whats the update on TI accelerated driver? | 10:59 |
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| Stskeeps | still waiting | 11:00 |
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| zakkmm | stskeeps: waiting on who, and do we know and its just a matter of waiting or? | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | it's pretty much inside the nokia black box so we only know when quim/etc announces anything or tells us | 11:07 |
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| zakkmm | quim works for nokia? | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | qgil | 11:07 |
| timeless_mbp | uh huh | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, obviously :) | 11:07 |
| timeless_mbp | is this ashock? | 11:07 |
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| zakkmm | yess. | 11:07 |
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| Stskeeps | there's even several nokia employees in here and subcontractors | 11:08 |
| timeless_mbp | http://maemo.org/profile/view/qgil/ | 11:08 |
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| timeless_mbp | he doesn't do a very good job of hiding his employer (imo) | 11:08 |
| zakkmm | hah | 11:08 |
| zakkmm | sorry guys. typing from tablet in easy mer. my mac partiton slowly broke so am reinstalling | 11:09 |
| timeless_mbp | "easy mer"? | 11:09 |
| zakkmm | problem? | 11:10 |
| timeless_mbp | is that different from normal mer? | 11:10 |
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| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: chroot approach from within Maemo | 11:10 |
| zakkmm | runs from chroot in maemo. by qole | 11:10 |
| timeless_mbp | interesting | 11:10 |
| zakkmm | gives me thumb keyboard ;p | 11:10 |
| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: i need to replace 'Stable' with 'Unstable'? | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | no, Devel | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | Stable with Devel, that is | 11:11 |
| Macer | uh oh | 11:11 |
| zakkmm | mer is awesome with xcompmgr -cC :P | 11:11 |
| slonopotamus | If the stream argument is NULL, fflush() flushes all open output streams. | 11:12 |
| slonopotamus | omg | 11:12 |
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| Macer | it is building gtk | 11:12 |
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| zakkmm | hey Macer | 11:12 |
| Macer | hi | 11:12 |
| zakkmm | did it finish compiling? | 11:13 |
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| Macer | no | 11:13 |
| Macer | it just started | 11:13 |
| Macer | heh | 11:13 |
| * Macer goes to work | 11:14 | |
| Macer | should be done in a few hrs | 11:14 |
| zakkmm | i dont get why you guys didnt do binhost. all tabletts are the same | 11:14 |
| Macer | down to 11G | 11:14 |
| zakkmm | sounds like u need a bigger one ;p | 11:15 |
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| Macer | from 14 | 11:15 |
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| slonopotamus | Macer, gtk... for matchbox stuff? | 11:16 |
| Macer | yes | 11:17 |
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| Macer | it is a matchbox dep | 11:17 |
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| Macer | im still in the console | 11:18 |
| Macer | might try fennec later | 11:19 |
| Macer | instead of an all out browser | 11:19 |
| zakkmm | macer; wouldntt that be slow? | 11:21 |
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| timeless_mbp | someone could tell qgil that Maemo Software doesn't exist anymore ;-) | 11:22 |
| * timeless_mbp grumbles | 11:22 | |
| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: Mer is refusing to use my network | 11:22 |
| * timeless_mbp kicks network manager | 11:23 | |
| Macer | awwww, she is jealous because the ginger boy found another girl | 11:25 |
| Macer | haha | 11:25 |
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| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: x86? | 11:25 |
| timeless_mbp | yep | 11:25 |
| Macer | timeless_mbp: adhoc? | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: virtualbox gets a bit weird at times yeah | 11:25 |
| timeless_mbp | ? | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: verify your bridging is correct | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | mine is bridged to wifi for example | 11:26 |
| timeless_mbp | i have 2 configured for Mer | 11:26 |
| timeless_mbp | bridging to WiFi is only configured for w7 | 11:26 |
| linuxeventually | is talk.maemo.org down? | 11:26 |
| timeless_mbp | one is NAT and one is, i can't remember | 11:26 |
| Macer | ok | 11:26 |
| X-Fade | linuxeventually: for me it is. | 11:26 |
| Macer | im not much of a potter fan | 11:26 |
| Macer | bjt this last movie is pretty funny | 11:27 |
| linuxeventually | yeah I checked downforeveryoneorjustme. hopefully they are upgrading the servers or something useful | 11:27 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Wouldn't bet on it... :\ it has been down quite a few times recently | 11:28 |
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| Macer | heh | 11:29 |
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| Macer | hm | 11:58 |
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| linuxeventually | back up | 11:59 |
| linuxeventually | and yeah pages were loading very slowly right before not at all | 11:59 |
| linuxeventually | "maemo effect"? (; | 12:00 |
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| zakkmm | anyone get one of those mugen batteries? | 12:02 |
| Macer | mugen? | 12:02 |
| zakkmm | super long battery life batteries | 12:02 |
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| Macer | is it like a 50000mah n810 battery? | 12:03 |
| aquatix | yep, comes with a backpack | 12:03 |
| Macer | haha | 12:03 |
| janneke | apt-get install maemo-sdk wants to install an xserver in my i386 chroot!? | 12:03 |
| Macer | lol | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | surewhynot | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:03 |
| Macer | for zephyr? | 12:04 |
| janneke | how do i install a working build environment without xserver? | 12:04 |
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| Macer | USE="-X" | 12:07 |
| Macer | oh.... wait.... nm | 12:07 |
| zakkmm | lol | 12:07 |
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| janneke | ughr, this works in some sort of chroot, why not a simple cross compiler setup? | 12:11 |
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| Macer | because nokia is evil | 12:13 |
| zakkmm | maemo is so going to lose os war on tablet. even with fremantle. | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | janneke: because build processes often make binaries to help them building | 12:15 |
| Stskeeps | very simple | 12:15 |
| janneke | Stskeeps: so, compile them with the native CC_FOR_BUILD? | 12:16 |
| janneke | what a mess | 12:16 |
| janneke | i still don't see why i need an xserver in my lenny.i386 chroot, which setups another chroot ;-) | 12:17 |
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| Stskeeps | janneke: yeah.. well, that's what i said until i started trying to get standard debian packages rolling on a cross-compilation environment | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:18 |
| inz | simple and cross compiler setup don't really fit in the same sentence | 12:22 |
| janneke | hmm, so everyone and their aunt is creating monstrous solutions *or* rolls their own, because debian has problems cross compiling their packages? | 12:22 |
| janneke | inz: here's our simple cross compiler solution: http://lilypond.org/gub | 12:23 |
| janneke | but it would be nice to use debian packages... | 12:23 |
| lcuk | zakkmm, what war | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | janneke: sb2 is saner in some respects | 12:24 |
| lcuk | and for battle, it helps if you have the right munitions | 12:24 |
| lcuk | we have people like stskeeps aroundwho is a lvl 80 mage | 12:24 |
| zakkmm | os war on tablet. ;p | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | no such thing | 12:26 |
| lcuk | zakkmm, not really | 12:27 |
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| Macer | like Hiitler trying to convince Germans that they are winning the war | 12:28 |
| wazd | heya all | 12:29 |
| * lcuk facepalms | 12:29 | |
| lcuk | hiya wazd | 12:29 |
| zakkmm | hey wazd | 12:29 |
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| * lcuk throws a 2d tablet like a frisbee @ zakkmm and lops his head off | 12:31 | |
| timeless_mbp | andre__: ping | 12:31 |
| timeless_mbp | inz++ | 12:32 |
| janneke | Stskeeps: i would guess that if sb2 would be unsaner in *every* aspect, it would not have been considered :-P | 12:32 |
| * timeless_mbp chuckles | 12:32 | |
| timeless_mbp | janneke: your logic doesn't work | 12:32 |
| timeless_mbp | if sb2 is cheaper than paying someone to maintain sb1 | 12:33 |
| timeless_mbp | and if sb2 is insane in every aspect, sb2 could still be picked | 12:33 |
| timeless_mbp | cost isn't really an aspect of sanity for a package | 12:33 |
| timeless_mbp | :) | 12:34 |
| * janneke is really ignorant here-- was thinking of simple cross build packages and setup instead of sb* ;-) | 12:34 | |
| * timeless_mbp looks for the 12 step program guide | 12:34 | |
| timeless_mbp | > Step 1, admitting the problem exists | 12:34 |
| timeless_mbp | you're off to a good start :) | 12:34 |
| * timeless_mbp pokes andre__ | 12:35 | |
| Macer | wow | 12:37 |
| Macer | what a shitty ending | 12:37 |
| Macer | at least it's not like watching a children's cartoon anymore | 12:37 |
| timeless_mbp | >? | 12:38 |
| Macer | the harry potter movie | 12:40 |
| Macer | that was actually not a bad movie :) | 12:40 |
| timeless_mbp | heh | 12:40 |
| Macer | and i hate harry potter movies | 12:41 |
| Macer | but i didn't have anything else to watch | 12:41 |
| * timeless_mbp has 3 LotR movies to watch | 12:41 | |
| timeless_mbp | (plus an entire dvd library) | 12:41 |
| timeless_mbp | (mostly unopened) | 12:41 |
| Macer | haha | 12:41 |
| Macer | i really wasn't too into lotr either | 12:41 |
| timeless_mbp | well, isn't that what dvds are for? to sit on shelves looking pretty? | 12:42 |
| timeless_mbp | we'll see, my sister is visiting in 2 days | 12:42 |
| Macer | no | 12:42 |
| Macer | that's what blu rays are for | 12:42 |
| Macer | dvds are to prove you just couldn't move on :) | 12:42 |
| Macer | haha | 12:42 |
| * timeless_mbp rotfl | 12:42 | |
| Macer | like VHS tapes (or betamax) | 12:42 |
| timeless_mbp | i'm not sure i have a single blueray player | 12:42 |
| Macer | blu ray shows class ;) | 12:43 |
| Macer | along with plasma televisions all over your walls | 12:43 |
| Macer | like a 52" that just goes through your photo album in the dining room | 12:43 |
| Macer | haha.. bbl | 12:43 |
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| suihkulokki | radiators.. I don't need no steenkin radiators... I have plasma tv's to keep my apartment warm! | 12:47 |
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| zakkmm | would it be a bad idea to always be in otg mode? | 12:54 |
| andre__ | timeless_mbp, pong | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | polling? | 12:55 |
| timeless_mbp | andre__: i don't suppose i could get you to verify a bug? :) | 12:56 |
| * timeless_mbp sighs | 12:56 | |
| * timeless_mbp needs to go shopping | 12:56 | |
| andre__ | where, what? | 12:56 |
| lcuk | i put bets on food shopping at the local supermarket | 12:57 |
| timeless_mbp | it might be impractical, you might not have the necessary prereq, or interest, in which case, don't worry about it | 12:57 |
| timeless_mbp | sadly, i don't have the prereqs either | 12:57 |
| Jaffa | zakkmm: OTG mode is the default, so "no". | 13:01 |
| timeless_mbp | heh | 13:02 |
| zakkmm | oh hah. i mean the one where usb keyboards work just bought one of those bendable ones off ebay. | 13:03 |
| Jaffa | zakkmm: You mean "host" mode? | 13:03 |
| zakkmm | probably | 13:03 |
| Jaffa | It probably keeps the hardware chip active more than it needs to be, so it might not be wise. | 13:03 |
| * Jaffa is just guessing tho' | 13:03 | |
| zakkmm | wish i bought a n810. | 13:04 |
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| lcuk | otg mode is default isnt it | 13:04 |
| lcuk | and host mode is for regular usb components | 13:05 |
| lcuk | and if people thought it was fully hostable usb they would try to run toasters and tvs and humping dogs off it | 13:05 |
| zakkmm | lcuk: Ah. can i always be in host? | 13:05 |
| lcuk | i dunno, but if you have a rollup keyboard, isnt it otg compatible? | 13:05 |
| zakkmm | is it? | 13:06 |
| lcuk | i was under the impression most "otg" components were ummm otg marked | 13:06 |
| lcuk | try it | 13:06 |
| zakkmm | would ebay linking help? | 13:06 |
| lcuk | not really | 13:06 |
| zakkmm | i didnt recieve yet 10-14 days hah | 13:06 |
| zakkmm | from hongkong to canada | 13:06 |
| lcuk | does it come iwht the correct mini micro | 13:06 |
| Jaffa | zakkmm: Switching between them is pretty trivial. There are apps and even statusbar applets if you're doing it correctly. If it's got the correct USB OTG plug, the N8x0 will auto-switch | 13:07 |
| zakkmm | no. i got a f to f adapter tho from months bak. | 13:07 |
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| zakkmm | i doubt it for that price | 13:08 |
| lcuk | the plug doesnt have to be gold plated, its just a wiring up difference | 13:08 |
| zakkmm | but its not a tablet accessory. | 13:09 |
| zakkmm | its for pc. | 13:09 |
| lcuk | only experience with osb hostmode i had was with my big keyboard | 13:23 |
| lcuk | and it worked perfectly and sat below the 100ma | 13:23 |
| lcuk | but when i chorded multitple keys, the powerdrain took it over 100ma (i think) and it crashed | 13:23 |
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| lcuk | i said bollocks to it and got an apple bt mini | 13:24 |
| zakkmm | hah lcuk wish i could afford that. | 13:25 |
| timeless_mbp | heh | 13:27 |
| timeless_mbp | lcuk: crashed how? | 13:27 |
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| lcuk | hard | 13:33 |
| lcuk | wouldnt reboot properly | 13:33 |
| lcuk | until i popped battery | 13:33 |
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| lcuk | nov2008: | 13:35 |
| lcuk | lcukive got a usb keyboard thats rated at 100ma, it works if i press one key at a time, if i do chording or make it display all the LEDs it crashes and wont work anymore until a full total battery popping reboot | 13:35 |
| zerojayPC | lol | 13:35 |
| * timeless_mbp ponders | 13:35 | |
| * timeless_mbp wonders if there's something the hardware can do to avoid that | 13:36 | |
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| lcuk | related to powerdraw and possibly the usb chip itself | 13:36 |
| javispedro | oh, | 13:38 |
| javispedro | my first palm t|x broke doing that | 13:38 |
| javispedro | up to the point | 13:38 |
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| javispedro | that the next time I tried to connect it to usb hub (as gadget!) | 13:38 |
| javispedro | it _POWERED_ the other devices on the hub. | 13:38 |
| lcuk | heh i did that for about half an hour, it was fun, but impractical lol | 13:38 |
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| javispedro | it was fun to see it powering the usb scanner while all I was trying is to get it to charge. | 13:39 |
| timeless_mbp | oh | 13:40 |
| timeless_mbp | hello finnish world | 13:40 |
| timeless_mbp | anyone know what a "fitted sheet" would be called? | 13:40 |
| wazd | Guys, small survey :) | 13:40 |
| wazd | http://i051.radikal.ru/0908/21/197d1a16ea83.png <- Is it a good idea? :) | 13:40 |
| timeless_mbp | wazd: i don't like "Detailed" | 13:40 |
| timeless_mbp | it doesn't fit the Fremantle style (which is not a bad thing) | 13:41 |
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| timeless_mbp | and if your target is en-US, "Monday, 16" is wrong | 13:41 |
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| timeless_mbp | Scatered isn't a word | 13:41 |
| wazd | timeless_mbp: I mean overall look of pannable cards? :) | 13:41 |
| timeless_mbp | so... i think mixing tabs and panning for the same orientation is disastrous | 13:42 |
| wazd | timeless_mbp: And what "detailed" do you mean? | 13:42 |
| timeless_mbp | the tab after Forecast | 13:42 |
| wazd | timeless_mbp: oh, tabs are totally fictional | 13:42 |
| timeless_mbp | i review what is ee | 13:43 |
| timeless_mbp | s/s e/ se/ | 13:43 |
| infobot | timeless_mbp meant: i review what i see | 13:43 |
| timeless_mbp | but in short, "i like it" | 13:43 |
| wazd | and when you tap the day - you see this: http://i012.radikal.ru/0908/dc/c4a2e1af3d35.png | 13:43 |
| timeless_mbp | which might sound funny considering my review, but :) | 13:43 |
| timeless_mbp | no. | 13:44 |
| timeless_mbp | ETOOSMALL PRINT | 13:44 |
| timeless_mbp | the icons don't need to be anywhere near that large nor centered above columns | 13:44 |
| wazd | timeless_mbp: yep, but there'are some problems in fitting it to portrait pop-up | 13:44 |
| wazd | timeless_mbp: size of the icons doesn't matter much | 13:45 |
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| timeless_mbp | also, for some reason i wouldn't burry sunrise/sunset at the bottom | 13:45 |
| timeless_mbp | (please don't ask me why) | 13:45 |
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| lardman | morning chaps | 13:55 |
| wazd | lardman: heya | 13:55 |
| lcuk | hi lardman | 13:56 |
| lcuk | wazd, does omweather hold information about previous days | 13:56 |
| lcuk | (that looks really good btw | 13:56 |
| wazd | lcuk: well, that's easy to add | 13:57 |
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| lcuk | well im just thinking, it adds a bit of context and a bit more extension to the panning :) | 13:57 |
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| guysoft42 | is there a working mythtv port for maemo? | 14:12 |
| Jaffa | wazd: I agree with timelyx, the test on the day popup is far too small. Try and get rid of the labels and use different font sizes, icons & context? | 14:15 |
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| guysoft42 | .. should i take that as a 'no'? | 14:21 |
| wazd | guysoft42: http://www.google.com/search?q=maemo+mythTV&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:ru:official&client=firefox | 14:22 |
| wazd | Jaffa: I have an idea how to make it larger | 14:24 |
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| Macer | hm | 14:30 |
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| Macer | can you get an adapter to just plug in a normal usb kb? | 14:30 |
| Macer | oh wait | 14:30 |
| Macer | n810 has that funky proprietary usb cable doesnt it? | 14:31 |
| Macer | n810 has that funky proprietary usb cable doesnt it?nm | 14:31 |
| Macer | oops | 14:31 |
| Macer | wtf | 14:31 |
| Macer | damn g1 | 14:31 |
| wazd | Macer: it has micro USB I guess | 14:32 |
| wazd | Macer: pretty standard | 14:32 |
| guysoft42 | wazd, i googled it, and got the garage project.. but my question was, is there 'a working' port? | 14:35 |
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| zakkm | hey | 14:54 |
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| lcuk2 | hiya zak | 15:03 |
| lcuk2 | or maybe not | 15:03 |
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| lcuk2 | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 15:08 |
| lcuk2 | virgin media broked internet | 15:08 |
| lcuk2 | instead of dns failure, im met with http://advancedsearch.virginmedia.com/subscribers/assist?url=www.sdfhjsdfhgsdfjsdgjsfh.com | 15:09 |
| Stskeeps | hah :P | 15:09 |
| * qwerty12_N810 could never be with an ISP that has a three strikes policy. | 15:09 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Ha | 15:11 |
| wazd | guysoft42: Well, they have v0.4 now, I suppose it should work | 15:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | I recall when VeriSign tried that here. | 15:11 |
| guysoft42 | wazd, its not in the repo.. | 15:11 |
| lcuk2 | qwerty12_N810, i'd like to give 3 strikes to the nincompoop that did that. | 15:11 |
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| lcuk2 | it breaks the web and i dont care that its opt out, it simply should not occur - if something cannot be found it should not be found | 15:12 |
| * lcuk2 vents | 15:12 | |
| X-Fade | opendns? | 15:12 |
| lcuk2 | X-Fade, yeah i know its there, but it then needs configuring on every machine/router thats done there | 15:14 |
| lcuk2 | the problem is pervasive | 15:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | Fix it at your network level, let other people worry about theirs. | 15:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | They'll get smacked down soon enough. | 15:15 |
| lcuk2 | yeah GeneralAntilles i have | 15:16 |
| lcuk2 | but when i get service from an isp, dns is one of those things that comes with it | 15:16 |
| lcuk2 | its distriibuted for a reason ;) | 15:16 |
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| wazd | How you guys imagine a sunrise/sunset icon? | 15:18 |
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| wazd | sun with arrow? :D | 15:18 |
| lcuk2 | wazd, there is no difference | 15:20 |
| lcuk2 | but i would like to see a harmonic humped arc over the course of the day | 15:21 |
| lcuk2 | indicating height of sun | 15:21 |
| lcuk2 | and another grey one in right place showin moon | 15:21 |
| lcuk2 | but thats just me :$ | 15:21 |
| lcuk2 | just pale in the background | 15:21 |
| lcuk2 | http://www.aloka-europe.com/uploaded/Image/lrg_tech_broadband_graph1.1e860b66.jpg | 15:22 |
| lcuk2 | not right, but similar to how im thinking | 15:22 |
| lcuk2 | sunrise at the start of it, sunset at the end | 15:22 |
| lcuk2 | maybe wazd, instead - you show a yellow bar in the area between sunrise/sunset labels and stars around the very left/right outide this region | 15:25 |
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| wazd | lcuk2: I've already reworked pop-up :) | 15:25 |
| lcuk2 | ****** Sunrise 6am :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:(happy suns):D:D:D:D:D:D:D sunset 21 ******** | 15:26 |
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| lcuk2 | wazd you git :P | 15:32 |
| lcuk2 | (you are taking blame for my cockup) | 15:32 |
| lcuk2 | i just called one of my colleagues wazd | 15:32 |
| * lardman sits back and watches his creation devour images of numbers and turn them into actual numbers | 15:33 | |
| lcuk2 | does it make "om nom nom" noises | 15:33 |
| lardman | more of a buzz | 15:33 |
| lardman | :) | 15:33 |
| lcuk2 | like the noise an old style movie projector makes :D | 15:34 |
| lardman | yeah, I think that's my speakers though | 15:34 |
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| lcuk2 | lol | 15:34 |
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| lardman | well that was an interesting bit of programming, I do hope that after that effort the end goal is attainable | 15:36 |
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| wazd | How about that: http://s50.radikal.ru/i129/0908/0b/43dfed04268e.png | 15:39 |
| lardman | I think I'd prefer lower humidity | 15:40 |
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| lcuk2 | wazd, slight faded bluesky around sunrise and dark with stars around sunset to confirm? | 15:41 |
| lcuk2 | looks good tho | 15:41 |
| lcuk2 | even tho i could show you pics of sunrise and sunset and you wouldnt know which was which | 15:41 |
| lardman | perhaps an arrow above the sun showing direction of movement | 15:42 |
| lcuk2 | wazd said that up there ^ | 15:42 |
| lcuk2 | ALIEN-SPACESHIPS! | 15:42 |
| lardman | ah sorry | 15:43 |
| lcuk2 | it might work tho | 15:44 |
| lardman | or have a red one for the sunset? | 15:44 |
| lcuk2 | and since you are 2nd person to say it, i think that might be a reasonable thing to do | 15:44 |
| lardman | someone probably mentioned that too | 15:44 |
| lcuk2 | or at least try | 15:44 |
| lardman | use a sprite | 15:45 |
| lardman | animated icon | 15:45 |
| lcuk2 | sprites are part of earth atmosphere | 15:46 |
| lcuk2 | i didnt think the sun had them | 15:46 |
| lardman | yeah sorry, it's a Psion term | 15:46 |
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| lcuk2 | yeah i know what you meant | 15:47 |
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| * lcuk2 was in pedantic mode | 15:47 | |
| lardman | :) no worries, I need a kick now and again | 15:47 |
| lcuk2 | i remember creating 8*8UDG sprites on zx spectrum | 15:47 |
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| slonopotamus | hehe | 15:52 |
| slonopotamus | libopencal causes kernel panic when writes data :) | 15:52 |
| lcuk2 | cal as in calibration | 15:53 |
| lcuk2 | or calendar? | 15:53 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus: not good | 15:53 |
| slonopotamus | calibration | 15:53 |
| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, blame kernel coders | 15:54 |
| slonopotamus | i was doing write() with len != writesize | 15:54 |
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| slonopotamus | so, theoretically, simple 'echo 123 > /dev/mtd1' should also trigger it :) | 15:55 |
| slonopotamus | now trying with len == writesize... | 15:56 |
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| ShadowJK | Writing straight to mtd sounds crazy anyway ;-) | 15:57 |
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| lcuk2 | anyone with g1 or anything hardware android, could oyu check what license google maps is released under | 15:58 |
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| Stskeeps | probably free but with no google service key | 15:59 |
| wazd | lcuk2: lardman: well, screw icons for now, is the font large enough? | 16:00 |
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| lcuk2 | wazd, havent got it on device so dont know | 16:01 |
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| lcuk2 | looks fine on big display | 16:01 |
| lardman | +1 | 16:01 |
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| lcuk2 | remind me later ill have a looksee | 16:01 |
| slonopotamus | ShadowJK, they call it 'insane' here | 16:02 |
| slonopotamus | so. /me runs open-cal-tool -R ask:mmc1 | 16:04 |
| Jaffa | Hmm, *everyone* seems to have missed the point on "help get Maemo 5 into shape" thread - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30857 | 16:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, well, idiots will be idiots no matter what. ;) | 16:07 |
| slonopotamus | maemo? into shape? kidding? | 16:07 |
| Jaffa | slonopotamus: helpful | 16:08 |
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| Stskeeps | i really hope eldar's idea of maemo task switcher isn't the one maemo uses, - not because it's not cool, but because not many apps support hibernation.. | 16:09 |
| Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Even people which should know better turn it into yet-another-wishlist thread | 16:09 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: From reading the description in the Dev Guide, I'm imaginging Palm Pre/Compiz style thumbnails of the live running app | 16:09 |
| Stskeeps | i kinda like texrat's poll on what people would like to see - sw roadmap is a big thing that we'd like to see more of than Fremantle_Roadmap | 16:09 |
| qwerty12_N810 | That's easy: A device :p | 16:10 |
| VDVsx | Jaffa, is already a wishlist thread ;) | 16:10 |
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| lardman | oops, I just replied to that thread | 16:13 |
| lardman | ah well | 16:13 |
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| VDVsx | Jaffa, Stskeeps there's a maiku screenshot with some kinda of task switcher/thumbnails of the running app | 16:15 |
| VDVsx | perhaps not the final version :) | 16:16 |
| Jaffa | VDVsx: No, those are apparently bookmarks. | 16:16 |
| VDVsx | app bookmarks ? | 16:16 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Y'know, with the leaked pictures of the Rover, you'd have thought that one would've had the sense to turn the bloody thing on! | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | it's actually a plastic shell | 16:17 |
| X-Fade | qwerty12_N810: details, details ;) | 16:17 |
| Jaffa | Only sold to those under 6 or with a 6 year-old's imagination for playing with an empty box. | 16:18 |
| Jaffa | VDVsx: I believe they were web page bookmarks. | 16:18 |
| VDVsx | Jaffa, let me check again :) | 16:18 |
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| lcuk2 | Stskeeps, which idea? | 16:19 |
| lcuk2 | and i like the principle of having apps hibernate to switch :D | 16:19 |
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| lcuk2 | then you could hibernate, take battery out | 16:19 |
| lcuk2 | and restore | 16:19 |
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| Redouane75 | This is a program that will be of great interest to you http://live-player.com 2500 radio channels + 850 TV Channels Free! You can view the series as Dallas, Los Simpsons, Pokémon, Scrubs, etc ... But all the available manga !!!!!!!!!!. Try it! Guaranteed spyware free | 16:19 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | lcuk2: Hibernation in Diablo doesn't mean that, at least... | 16:20 |
| Macer | oh | 16:20 |
| Macer | didnt know that was a standard port | 16:20 |
| Macer | the one on the n810 | 16:20 |
| Macer | looked different than typical usb | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: technically it's supposed to though | 16:21 |
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| Stskeeps | like | 16:21 |
| Jaffa | Macer: It's MicroUSB, rather than MiniUSB. It's a newer standard and the one which has been agreed by all the phone manufacturers in the EU to be the new charging standard | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | on an app level | 16:21 |
| VDVsx | Jaffa, ah right, the qaiku thing is a desktop widget it seems :) | 16:21 |
| Jaffa | VDVsx: yeah | 16:22 |
| Macer | which means the US will find a way to not use it since it is euro | 16:22 |
| Macer | heh | 16:22 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Stskeeps: Yeah, but I don't think a hibernated app in Diablo is gonna be waiting for you when the battery is taken out ;) | 16:22 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: it could technically though | 16:22 |
| Macer | it doesnt look very "micro" | 16:23 |
| Macer | it is almost the same size as the mini | 16:23 |
| ShadowJK | it's slimmer | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | it's supposedly better with otg or something | 16:23 |
| ShadowJK | and compared to usb&miniusb, it has the wear&tear components on the cable's end and not in the device | 16:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | Macer, by "almost", you of course mean "approximately 50% smaller". | 16:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's also significantly more durable. | 16:24 |
| ShadowJK | Yeah | 16:24 |
| Meizirkki | http://picasaweb.google.fi/meizirkki/NokiaN810#5371294054438589378 the screen still works, believe it or not :P | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | jesus christ | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | no warranty? :P | 16:25 |
| jeremiah | /c | 16:25 |
| Meizirkki | nop | 16:25 |
| ShadowJK | Meizirkki, don't throw tablet to floor and beat it with a hammer? | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | this reminds me of mandelbrot though | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | Meizirkki: i'll keep you in mind next time we get anything donated :P | 16:25 |
| ShadowJK | Someone gave me a laptop with broken screen, it had impact damage from the centre, so lines like that radiated outwards :) | 16:25 |
| Meizirkki | :D | 16:25 |
| * Meizirkki is willing to get a touchbook.. | 16:25 | |
| ShadowJK | Meizirkki, what happened to it? | 16:25 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | Meizirkki: I don't even want to know what caused the demise of that screen :p | 16:26 |
| Meizirkki | my bed is near the sealing and it felt from there | 16:28 |
| ShadowJK | ah | 16:29 |
| Meizirkki | (bunk bed or whatever it's called) | 16:30 |
| ShadowJK | I've dropped my N800 onto the floor from bed a few times, but it's just a regular bed | 16:30 |
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| Meizirkki | i have dropped my n810 couple of times from that bed | 16:31 |
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| Meizirkki | but now it got enough | 16:32 |
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| Meizirkki | luckily it's still working | 16:32 |
| Meizirkki | :) | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | wb qwerty12_N810 | 16:32 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Thank you, Stskeeps | 16:32 |
| Macer | blah | 16:32 |
| Macer | let me check on the build that never ends heh | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | webkit? ;p | 16:34 |
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| ShadowJK | in that video from nokia's testing centre in the UK, they only dropped the phones from like hip-height :) | 16:35 |
| Macer | lol | 16:36 |
| Macer | no | 16:36 |
| Macer | gtk was buikding on the n810 | 16:36 |
| Macer | i left it at home | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | ah, :P | 16:36 |
| Macer | it is all done | 16:36 |
| Macer | going to get home and try it out | 16:37 |
| Macer | hope matchbox is easy to set up | 16:37 |
| Macer | sounds like it should be | 16:37 |
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| Macer | then i'll install cups and abiword.. maybe try openoffice haha | 16:37 |
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| Macer | i guess cups has an ebuild problem but i have to be home to fix it so i can install it | 16:40 |
| Macer | damnit heh | 16:40 |
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| Macer | shit. if i can get the sound going i'm going to be one extremely happy camper | 16:41 |
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| Macer | because that would be the last piece of the puzzle | 16:41 |
| lcuk2 | yeah until the next one | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | one word: unmute. | 16:42 |
| Macer | lol | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | that's all the help you get ;) | 16:42 |
| Macer | wish it were that easy | 16:42 |
| Macer | im pretty sure it is a module thing | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | trust me, that's the difficult part. | 16:42 |
| Macer | not sure yet | 16:42 |
| kfx | sounds like someone had a bad experience with alsamixer | 16:42 |
| lcuk2 | 200 piece jigsaw, and i just dropped a piece down between the floorboards | 16:42 |
| Macer | unmute is hard? | 16:42 |
| Macer | hehe | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | kfx, no, - fact is we had DSP and everything loaded and we couldn't solve why no sound came out | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | until we realized it was simply unmuted | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:43 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: is there an available 2.21 module? | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | err, muted | 16:43 |
| * lcuk2 giggles | 16:43 | |
| Macer | er | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: what? :P | 16:43 |
| Macer | 2.6.21? | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | no help :) | 16:43 |
| Macer | lol | 16:43 |
| Macer | :-P | 16:43 |
| qwerty12_N810 | ...until you get him the beer :p | 16:43 |
| Macer | haha | 16:44 |
| Macer | trying to look at the kernel now | 16:45 |
| lcuk2 | it takes more than beer, he wouldnt help his girlfriend until they had consumated his marriage lol | 16:45 |
| lcuk2 | so macer, pucker up | 16:46 |
| Macer | hahaha | 16:46 |
| Macer | i can live without sound ;) | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk2: my wife, back before we started dating, came with beer and muffins for me. | 16:46 |
| lcuk2 | haha | 16:46 |
| lcuk2 | i nearly parsed that sentence incorrectly | 16:47 |
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| lcuk2 | your missus is smart, she knows the way to a mans heart is with food | 16:48 |
| qwerty12_N810 | lcuk2: Muffins? ;) | 16:48 |
| Macer | wtf | 16:49 |
| Macer | the module should be built already | 16:49 |
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| * Macer finds it and unmutes | 16:49 | |
| Macer | haha | 16:49 |
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| * qwerty12_N810 stares at lardman (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=312686) | 16:55 | |
| * javispedro was reading that too. | 16:55 | |
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| Stskeeps | talk.* taking an unexpected turn. | 16:56 |
| javispedro | is that what happens when you mix medication and alcohol? | 16:57 |
| javispedro | just curious ;P | 16:57 |
| lcuk2 | ficiton is fun | 16:57 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Next: lardman's pimping tales | 16:57 |
| lcuk2 | fiction even | 16:57 |
| * javispedro can't wait to see that "story" on the Onion News Network. | 16:58 | |
| lcuk2 | used to read often on kuro5hin | 16:58 |
| lcuk2 | and theres always amusing postings on slashdot | 16:58 |
| X-Fade | If he turned that energy into proper documentation for something that is lacking, I would be even more amused ;) | 16:58 |
| lcuk2 | do we have fruit machines in maemo? | 16:58 |
| lcuk2 | or lottery machines | 16:59 |
| javispedro | "In order to set the default extension for the Hildon FileChooser dialog, you have to send $3000 to the orphaned Linux coders fund". | 16:59 |
| lcuk2 | o_O they lowered the donation level | 17:00 |
| lcuk2 | cool | 17:00 |
| dopper | javispedro: I just loaded up your DrNokSnes. It loads the rom fine but when I tapped the black areas on the outside I couldn't find a start button. Is there documentation for it somewhere? | 17:01 |
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| javispedro | dopper, sorry, the packaging is missing a config file assigning buttons to keyboard keys | 17:02 |
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| * javispedro renames the file on hist site to DrNokSnes.txt, thanks qwerty for noticing that. | 17:03 | |
| lopz | hi | 17:03 |
| javispedro | dopper, put this http://depot.javispedro.com/drnoksnes/DrNokSnes.txt in ~/apps/ | 17:03 |
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| dopper | javispedro: thanks...this is exciting - it appears to run very well | 17:06 |
| jeremiah | .c | 17:06 |
| jeremiah | or rather /c | 17:06 |
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| dopper | javispedro: I just looked at the config file...is bluetooth keyboard required for n800 or should I be able to touch the screen like iNES? | 17:13 |
| javispedro | dopper, ah sorry, I only tried with n810 hw keyboard so far. | 17:14 |
| javispedro | touch screen is not implemented but plan to do it | 17:14 |
| dopper | ok thanks | 17:14 |
| dopper | I have 2 BT KB's to test with | 17:15 |
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| javispedro | the mapper file is using scancodes to test so I don't know if it'll work | 17:15 |
| javispedro | hope so. | 17:15 |
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| VDVsx | oh lardman congrats :) lol | 17:20 |
| javispedro | dopper, fwiw, this is the mapping on n810: http://depot.javispedro.com/drnoksnes/buttons.jpg | 17:21 |
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| dopper | javispedro: thanks. I've got an n800 & 770 so hopefully I can make it work | 17:25 |
| javispedro | thanks for trying :) | 17:26 |
| dopper | I don't have teh turbo mode or enable audio options so I must have an older build from the repositories | 17:26 |
| javispedro | yep, the screenshot is from git | 17:26 |
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| * javispedro reads this http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30857 as "Please report any non-Fremantle Maemo applications to Multi-National United. Thanks for your cooperation." | 17:41 | |
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| dopper | javispedro: thanks it works great with the think outside (igo) stowaway bluetooth keyboard on n800 (albeit requiring a more comfortable mapping of keys than the n810 defaults) | 17:50 |
| javispedro | dopper, good to know. I plan to put in a simple mapping editor in the interface (more complex mappings will have to go through the config file) | 17:51 |
| dopper | super punchout runs nice and smooth | 17:52 |
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| javispedro | what's the average framerate (you can see that on the lower left corner)? | 17:55 |
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| dopper | 30-32 fps during the game | 17:59 |
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| dopper | I was able to beat gabby jay with the default key bindings but that's not saying much | 18:00 |
| fureddo | I'm trying to use the Application Manager inside scratchbox but the Internet connection doesn't seem to work. Sounds familiar to someone? | 18:00 |
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| javispedro | fureddo: fremantle? then yes, http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo_5_beta_2_sdk_installation/#sdkissue | 18:03 |
| fureddo | javispedro, diablo | 18:04 |
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| javispedro | can yo ping google.com from inside sbox? | 18:04 |
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| fureddo | yes. apt-get works fine. | 18:05 |
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| wazd_n800 | guys! | 18:07 |
| wazd_n800 | http://www.mobile-review.com/lj/1955.jpg | 18:07 |
| wazd_n800 | more screenshots to come :) | 18:07 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Fucking sweet | 18:07 |
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| wazd_n800 | He says that n900 is the best device in 2009 :) | 18:09 |
| kfx | is that background blurred in photoshop or is that how it looks on the device | 18:09 |
| fureddo | Hmmm... apt-get works but ping doesn't... | 18:09 |
| wazd_n800 | kfx, its device screenshot | 18:09 |
| kfx | and does it use some kind of display compositing to achieve that | 18:09 |
| wazd_n800 | qwerty12_N810, btw, see, gradients are ok | 18:09 |
| wazd_n800 | qwerty12_N810, looks like we'll have 24 bit heaven :D | 18:09 |
| qwerty12_N810 | :) | 18:10 |
| wazd_n800 | kfx: clutter | 18:10 |
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| kfx | ah | 18:10 |
| kfx | man I was like two minutes into puzzling out my old, broken russian skills before I saw there was an english-language link there | 18:11 |
| * Stskeeps wants a fremantle device now | 18:11 | |
| qwerty12_N810 | But that battery bar showing 3 bars and it having "1 hour of active use" left isn't good :\ | 18:11 |
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| dopper | javispedro: have you seen this post yet? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=17579 - I think I'm going to try this next (using a bluetooth enabled wiimote) | 18:12 |
| kfx | battery life estimates improve when you turn off the built-in signal laser, qwerty12_N810 | 18:12 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12_N810: any power user will strain the device at first | 18:12 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | kfx: hehe | 18:12 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Stskeeps: but, 3 bars! :) | 18:13 |
| kfx | (I'm assuming this can communicate directly with the ISS) | 18:13 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Then again, Nokia aren't known for their accurate battery meter applets | 18:13 |
| wazd_n800 | I think battery applet is unfinished/not working | 18:13 |
| wazd_n800 | too bad icon and wrong text format | 18:14 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Eldar deserves the Nobel prize or someshit for having the brains to turn the device on | 18:14 |
| Stskeeps | lol | 18:14 |
| wazd_n800 | and yes, seriously, 1 hour on 3 bars?! :D | 18:14 |
| wazd_n800 | qwerty12_N810, he was using it for 3 months or so | 18:15 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Yep, but other shots show the device with it turned off :p | 18:15 |
| wazd_n800 | why blogger has the device, and devs don't :( | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | wazd_n800: if he says it's the best device of 2009, that isn't bad :) | 18:17 |
| wazd_n800 | Stskeeps, I want to say the same thing | 18:17 |
| wazd_n800 | Stskeeps, but I need the device for that :P | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:18 |
| Macer | hi | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | that's application manager in background isn't it? | 18:19 |
| Macer | * Stskeeps wants a fremantle device now | 18:21 |
| * Macer stares at mer | 18:21 | |
| Stskeeps | Macer: i've wanted that for several months though | 18:21 |
| Macer | heh | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | after seeing the development devices | 18:21 |
| Macer | vaporware | 18:21 |
| Macer | ;) | 18:22 |
| Macer | actually | 18:22 |
| Macer | beagleboards are real | 18:22 |
| Macer | get one of those | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | i have two in my office.. | 18:22 |
| Macer | oh | 18:22 |
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| Macer | only thing short of newer phones that use an a8 | 18:22 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Get a Pandora. Oh, wait... | 18:22 |
| Macer | qwerty12_N810: haha | 18:23 |
| Macer | or a touch book! | 18:23 |
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| Macer | woop | 18:23 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Heh, you still waiting for your order? :p | 18:23 |
| Macer | mine is on "pre order" | 18:23 |
| Macer | yeah | 18:23 |
| Macer | haha | 18:23 |
| Macer | not only that | 18:23 |
| Macer | but theyve started shipping! | 18:23 |
| Macer | yet | 18:23 |
| Macer | nobody has gotten one yet | 18:24 |
| Macer | hahaha. what a load of shit | 18:24 |
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| Macer | i dunno. i havent checked their site since they said they were shipping | 18:26 |
| Macer | let me see what this week's line of bullshit is | 18:26 |
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| Macer | hm | 18:41 |
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| Macer | does the diablo kernel src not come with the proper sound ? | 18:41 |
| Macer | sound driver for an n810? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | no help .. :) | 18:42 |
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| javispedro | dopper, even though I have a wiimote I did not try it either so good luck :D | 18:48 |
| javispedro | oh well. that screenshot looks palmish. | 18:50 |
| javispedro | save for the clearly gnome-style disk icon | 18:50 |
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| javispedro | which probably indicates it's not a screenshot of the definitive gui | 18:52 |
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| javispedro | so there's still hope for the 1.30-ish "active use" battery life. | 18:52 |
| javispedro | cause with only 2 hours of battery life I'm going to kill all nokians. | 18:52 |
| Macer | command.. it's added in the OP now in the main section with the commands___________ | 18:52 |
| Macer | hm | 18:53 |
| qwerty12_N810 | javispedro: May I join you in that? | 18:53 |
| Macer | what is th OP | 18:53 |
| Macer | ? | 18:53 |
| Macer | heh | 18:53 |
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| Macer | i was seeing how they got it working in deblet | 18:53 |
| javispedro | qwerty12_N810, I bring my trusty bulldozer. you what? | 18:55 |
| qwerty12_N810 | AK-47 | 18:55 |
| qwerty12_N810 | :( | 18:56 |
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| wazd | wazd_n800: screw you, fatass :) | 18:59 |
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| * javispedro just installed ie6 on wine just to get to telefonica's web page. | 19:02 | |
| javispedro | carrier's suck. | 19:02 |
| javispedro | *carriers. | 19:02 |
| javispedro | also, what happened to msn? i did not remember it had so much pr0n on frontpage. | 19:03 |
| javispedro | times have changed. | 19:03 |
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| lcuk2 | Stskeeps, re macer, you are evil! | 19:15 |
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| nickmack | Hello guys | 20:28 |
| andre__ | hi | 20:29 |
| nickmack | hey, does anyone here know how osso-backup protect backups with password? | 20:29 |
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| wnd | nickmack, iirc the password is passed to zip's algorithm | 20:40 |
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| nickmack | but i guess it change the zip file somehow, cause the zip is not even recognized as a zip file | 20:44 |
| nickmack | Doesnt it have an algorithm itself to protect with passwords? | 20:45 |
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| wiretapped | any word of developer discounts for the next device? | 20:57 |
| lcuk2 | how can you have a discount on the next device when its not even been announced yet | 20:59 |
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| Proteous | heh | 21:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | wiretapped, no. | 21:02 |
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| Macer | nokia has vaporware too? | 21:02 |
| Macer | heh | 21:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | It seems unlikely that we're going to get one. | 21:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Macer, hardly. | 21:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Vaporware is when you announce something and then never ship it. | 21:02 |
| Macer | :-) | 21:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | It can't be vaporware if it hasn't been announced. | 21:03 |
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| Macer | oooooh.. ok | 21:03 |
| Macer | i see | 21:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | They're going to have to hustle to get the discounts sorted if they're waiting until the announcement. | 21:03 |
| Macer | figured vaporware was anything that never came to be | 21:03 |
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| GeneralAntilles | That, or they're shipping in November and I'm not going to bother with the Summit. | 21:03 |
| Macer | like... the touch book | 21:03 |
| Macer | why? | 21:04 |
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| javispedro | "Vaporware is a term used to describe a product, usually software, that has been announced by a developer during or before its development and, therefore, may never actually be released" :) | 21:04 |
| wiretapped | it wouldn't make much sense to have the summit with lots of maemo5 details still under wraps | 21:04 |
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| wiretapped | but then nokia's actions don't always make a lot of sense | 21:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | wiretapped, I agree, which is why I wouldn't be attending any such Summit. | 21:04 |
| Macer | javispedro: get that from the l33t encyclopedia? | 21:04 |
| Macer | hehe | 21:04 |
| javispedro | no, the deletionpedia ;) | 21:05 |
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| Macer | haha | 21:05 |
| zakkm | GeneralAntilles: did you use the adium 1.4b8 irc, seemed like they fixed alot | 21:05 |
| lcuk2 | macer have you given up on dpkg for now then | 21:05 |
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| GeneralAntilles | zakkm, not on my primary computer for a little while yet. | 21:05 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: got sound working yet? | 21:05 |
| Macer | GeneralAntilles: for now yes... i want to see about getting gentoo to use sound | 21:05 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: im not home yet | 21:05 |
| lcuk | hiya zakkm \o | 21:06 |
| zakkm | hey everyone :) | 21:06 |
| zakkm | heya lcuk :) | 21:06 |
| Macer | my n810 is at home | 21:06 |
| Macer | matchbox finished building tho | 21:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Anybody using an i7 rig with Ubuntu? | 21:06 |
| Macer | doesnt look like hildon does it? | 21:06 |
| zakkm | i got a overclocked machine? | 21:07 |
| Macer | like... stock matchbox | 21:07 |
| zakkm | not up to core i7 though ;p | 21:07 |
| Macer | ? | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: also i'll give you another friendly hint. after loading tasks first time, halt, not reboot. | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | (if you're doing it in a init script that starts after you install it) | 21:07 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: i can only go off the deblet instructions | 21:07 |
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| Macer | tasks first time? | 21:08 |
| Macer | for what? | 21:08 |
| Macer | matchbox? | 21:08 |
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| Macer | Stskeeps: oh. you must mean all the sound stuff | 21:08 |
| * GeneralAntilles would prefer a dual Xeon setup. | 21:09 | |
| Macer | the deblet stuff looks difficult | 21:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Problem is, the server mobos are exactly that. | 21:09 |
| zakkm | GeneralAntilles: is there a purpose for it? | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: get a openrd-client? ;) | 21:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, I need a real machine. | 21:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Do PCIe sound cards work at all in Linux? | 21:10 |
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| zakkm | GeneralAntilles: how can you leave Mac OSX :( | 21:12 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Easily? ;) | 21:12 |
| javispedro | oh, i did it twice, so it must be easy ;) | 21:13 |
| zakkm | ;O | 21:14 |
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| zakkm | greatest OS | 21:14 |
| qwerty12_N810 | /cue cough fits | 21:14 |
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| lardman | anyone here have mobile broadband with Vodafone? | 21:15 |
| lardman | ~lart Vodafone for being a right bunch of w*nkers | 21:15 |
| * infobot forces Vodafone to use Outlook Express for being a right bunch of w*nkers | 21:15 | |
| javispedro | ~curse all carriers | 21:15 |
| infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, all carriers ! | 21:15 |
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| javispedro | oh, damn. they _already_ are xp administrators :( | 21:16 |
| lardman | I've just been told that somehow Vodafone will charge me differently if I use my phone as a modem (i.e. with my N810) than if I use the internet on it directly | 21:16 |
| lardman | does that make sense? or is it a load of rubbish? | 21:16 |
| Razumihin | lardman: I don't think that they even can notice that. | 21:16 |
| lardman | I tend towards the latter, but as I have a few days to cancel my contract I should really make sure | 21:16 |
| slonopotamus | lardman, same thing here. they somehow can distinguish that. | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | lardman: if they use custom firmware on the phone i guess it is possible | 21:17 |
| javispedro | lardman, I've seen it done by carefully suggesting a diferent configuration for modem use | 21:17 |
| lardman | Razumihin: except that my phone comes up and says "enable packet data" when I try to use it with the N810 | 21:17 |
| kleist | with Vodafone, anything is possible | 21:17 |
| qwerty12_N810 | lardman: Why are you with Vodafone anyway? Their hobby is getting shitton amounts of money out of their customers' asses. | 21:17 |
| lardman | yeah, well my parents are with them, free calls, etc | 21:17 |
| lardman | and my wife for that matter :) | 21:18 |
| lardman | annoying | 21:18 |
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| Razumihin | lardman: I recommend something else really. | 21:18 |
| lardman | so, what's the best bet then, I'd like a contract that will work with the n900 as and when it is released | 21:18 |
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| kleist | an unlimited data plan (gprs speed) costs 10 euro/month with O2 Germany | 21:19 |
| Razumihin | The best thing might be to wait for n900 and take that with contract | 21:19 |
| lardman | though if it's tied to a contract in Europe, I'll have to get a pay as you go for a few months | 21:19 |
| qwerty12_N810 | You really are going to Vegas, then? ;) | 21:19 |
| lardman | kleist: my wife was suggesting we move to Germany, bit extreme just for a new price plan though! ;) | 21:19 |
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| zakkm | :D | 21:20 |
| kleist | lardman: what does such a thing cost over there? | 21:20 |
| lardman | qwerty12_N810: is that where the launch is? | 21:20 |
| qwerty12_N810 | lardman: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30862 | 21:20 |
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| Razumihin | lardman: :) | 21:20 |
| lardman | :) | 21:21 |
| Razumihin | lardman: I think that you can get n900 at least from finland without contract | 21:21 |
| lardman | I did notice that I am always in the "random members" :D | 21:21 |
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| Razumihin | (i hope so as i just took n97 with 2 year contract ;) | 21:21 |
| qwerty12_N810 | lardman: How much did you pay bergie? ;P | 21:21 |
| lcuk | lardman, i gather you have seen: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=312779 | 21:22 |
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| lcuk | qwerty12_N810, he doesnt have to pay - thats actually where woodbe assassins look for jobs :O | 21:23 |
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| lcuk | he has to pay to be removed | 21:23 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | heh | 21:23 |
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| lardman | qwerty12_N810: I wonder if my missing discussion karma has boosted my "front page appearance modifier" or somesuch | 21:24 |
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| lardman | :D | 21:24 |
| nickmack | So... nobody knows how osso-backup protect its backups with password? | 21:25 |
| nickmack | >.< | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | it's closed source | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:25 |
| lardman | sooo, what do we reckon on phone contracts? | 21:26 |
| lcuk | o_O really, how will mer handle backup | 21:26 |
| javispedro | with obscurity | 21:26 |
| lardman | and do we think we'll see dev devices too? | 21:26 |
| qwerty12_N810 | tar | 21:26 |
| lcuk | do apps have to create a secondary backup thing in /deb package | 21:26 |
| lcuk | lardman, we saw dev devices in copenhagen | 21:27 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk: rsync /home/$USER? | 21:27 |
| qwerty12_N810 | lcuk: You should've took one. They did, after all, take your finger | 21:27 |
| lardman | I meant dev discount, sorry my bad | 21:27 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, come on, USER oriented | 21:27 |
| Stskeeps | ok $HOME.P | 21:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:27 |
| lcuk | im actually being serious | 21:27 |
| lardman | shit, can't believe I just typed that | 21:27 |
| * lcuk is as shocked as others | 21:28 | |
| lardman | :p | 21:28 |
| lcuk | backup is important to people | 21:28 |
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| Stskeeps | lcuk: and i'm being fairly serious too - a nice UI on top of tar or the likes. | 21:28 |
| lcuk | could you put it on the list of components for nokia to consider | 21:28 |
| qwerty12_N810 | lcuk: I see a market for liqbackup | 21:28 |
| Stskeeps | we do keep all user settings in $HOME | 21:28 |
| lcuk | qwerty12_N810, ive done backup apps before now | 21:28 |
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| lcuk | and they are no fun | 21:28 |
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| lcuk | but, what nokia backup has going for it, is a whole raft of programs configured to use it | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | sure, and it can still piggyback on that | 21:29 |
| lcuk | yeah | 21:29 |
| javispedro | oh, I have a backup app on the device? | 21:29 |
| lcuk | but as usual, if nokia are willing to open it | 21:29 |
| lcuk | it saves hassl | 21:30 |
| lcuk | e | 21:30 |
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| lcuk | and we get tried, tested stable software | 21:30 |
| lcuk | that level of comfort is important to a lot of people | 21:30 |
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| zakkm | is it just me or does the whole UI/look of tablet need to change? | 21:32 |
| javispedro | does the backup app do anything else other than killing gconf and the addresbook before running zip? | 21:32 |
| zakkm | its too "stylus wanting" | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | zakkm: did you see fremantle? :P | 21:32 |
| qwerty12_N810 | zakkm: welcome to Fremantle. | 21:32 |
| zakkm | very early videos | 21:32 |
| qwerty12_N810 | javispedro: it does send out a signal that apps can listen to iirc | 21:33 |
| zakkm | it still seems like it wants stylus though | 21:33 |
| zakkm | i mean lesss so, but still require it if your going to use tablet | 21:33 |
| VDVsx | seems that the last update of openssh broke something o_0 | 21:36 |
| VDVsx | anyone experienced problems with ssh in the last couple of days ? | 21:36 |
| zakkm | VDVsx: worked fine for me. | 21:36 |
| lcuk | what sort of problems | 21:36 |
| zakkm | updating actually fixed ssh for me | 21:36 |
| qwerty12_N810 | I updated and my SSH still works | 21:36 |
| lcuk | and btw, vdvsx, your cats name is fred and your mothers maiden name is jones :P | 21:37 |
| lcuk | i found your ssh worked perfectly | 21:37 |
| zakkm | :O | 21:37 |
| VDVsx | mine only works if I keep the the internet connection alive :( | 21:37 |
| VDVsx | lcuk, :) | 21:37 |
| lcuk | yeah - thats called a connection isnt it? | 21:37 |
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| VDVsx | i.e keep browsing :) | 21:37 |
| VDVsx | *one the n810 side | 21:38 |
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| VDVsx | grrr | 21:38 |
| lcuk | thats likely a standard net setting | 21:38 |
| lcuk | not ssh itself is it? | 21:38 |
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| VDVsx | start happening with the last update of openssh :( | 21:39 |
| paulo_victor | alguem fala português? | 21:39 |
| lcuk | :'( | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | O_NDELAY issue? | 21:39 |
| VDVsx | paulo_victor, não :p | 21:39 |
| javispedro | what's the changelog? | 21:39 |
| VDVsx | javispedro, didn't checked yet | 21:40 |
| javispedro | I'm not using it cause I want mine to run from inetd :P | 21:40 |
| lcuk | * added vdvsx specific connection dropping | 21:40 |
| VDVsx | paulo_victor, se precisar de ajuda, diga, mas fora do canal, este canal é só ingles ;) | 21:40 |
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| lardman|fed | rrrr, bloody Vodafone | 21:47 |
| lardman|fed | Jaffa: your post here is a bit screwy: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=312671&postcount=10 | 21:49 |
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| lardman|fed | the formatting that is | 21:49 |
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| lardman|fed | anyone know what FUP stands for? | 21:54 |
| lardman|fed | ah, fair use | 21:54 |
| javispedro | deletionpedia says so :D | 21:54 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Maybe they meant s/U/A/ | 21:54 |
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| lardman|fed | :) | 21:55 |
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| lardman|fed | aargh, why doesn't maemo.org warn you you're not logged in when you go to edit a page | 21:57 |
| lardman|fed | grrr | 21:57 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | Because you're on Vodafone | 21:57 |
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| lardman|fed | you're so right :) | 21:58 |
| lardman|fed | ~curse Vodafone | 21:58 |
| infobot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, Vodafone ! | 21:58 |
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| lardman|fed | well at least something useful has come of this crappy-Vodafone run-in, I've had to look up the info and therefore have added it to the wiki: http://wiki.maemo.org/Data_plans#United_Kingdom | 22:04 |
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| lardman | hmm, so I reckon perhaps I should switch to a pay as you go monthly contract and see what happens with the new wunder-phone | 22:06 |
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| * lardman goes to tally up the number of minutes he uses a month | 22:07 | |
| lardman | bloody Vodafone | 22:07 |
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| lcuk | nickmack, | 22:15 |
| lcuk | do you have the backup file on computer | 22:15 |
| lcuk | does it start with standard zip header | 22:15 |
| lcuk | ie in text "PK???????..." | 22:16 |
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| johnsq | Hi | 22:18 |
| Stskeeps | 'lo johnsq | 22:19 |
| johnsq | or mid | 22:20 |
| nickmack | hum... i have it on computer, the main problem is that i need to know how osso-backup application protect the backups, cause i need to do the same thing in my application so osso-backup can recognize password protected backups my application create | 22:21 |
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| lcuk | nickmack, but you say you cannot recognise the file. does the (partial) individual .zip file have proper PK header | 22:23 |
| lcuk | after osso-backup has produced it | 22:23 |
| lcuk | or are they using a custom wrapper around the zip | 22:23 |
| lcuk | which will help you to at least rule out some possibilities | 22:24 |
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| Stskeeps | wazd: poke | 22:26 |
| * wazd shrugs | 22:27 | |
| timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: did you read my ui spec? | 22:27 |
| timeless_mbp | hey, wazd, do you code or just mock up? | 22:27 |
| Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: briefly, been tangled up in e-mails and pre-final release at work today | 22:27 |
| lardman | hmm, probably cheaper to be on a contract that in pay as you go | 22:28 |
| wazd | timeless_mbp: unfortunately only mock ups :( | 22:28 |
| Stskeeps | wazd: while i'm not out to try and kill mer ui or something, i do have an idea that could be interesting | 22:29 |
| timeless_mbp | wazd: can you write html? | 22:29 |
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| nickmack | hum... im sry, but whats the PK header of the zip file? | 22:29 |
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| wazd | timeless_mbp: yep | 22:29 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: Well, if your idea is better than current - why should I be against it ) | 22:30 |
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| Macer | ok! | 22:46 |
| Macer | i'm home | 22:46 |
| Macer | let me try out this damn matchbox crap :) | 22:46 |
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| Macer | well | 22:55 |
| Macer | that didn't work | 22:55 |
| zakkm | hah | 22:55 |
| Macer | FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument | 22:56 |
| Macer | oh | 22:57 |
| Macer | yeah it did | 22:57 |
| Macer | wow this is bare :) | 22:57 |
| Macer | well | 22:58 |
| Macer | i guess if i take the tie to figure matchbox out | 22:58 |
| Macer | it will be worth it | 22:58 |
| Macer | until then i'll go ahead and install gnome heh | 22:58 |
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| johnsq | Macer: haven't you installed gentoo? | 22:59 |
| Macer | http://matchbox-project.org/screenshots.html | 23:01 |
| Macer | wow | 23:01 |
| zakkm | gnome? ew | 23:01 |
| Macer | if i can get my matchbox to run like that | 23:01 |
| Macer | it would be awesome :) | 23:01 |
| Macer | the bottome one | 23:01 |
| Macer | bottom | 23:01 |
| zakkm | hah | 23:01 |
| zakkm | thats awesomee | 23:01 |
| zakkm | 2.10 gnome for one lol | 23:01 |
| zakkm | and the icons are wayy to slow | 23:01 |
| Macer | Matchbox window manager and keyboard running with GNOME ( including the GNOME panel and Nautilus desktop ) on a Sony U71 UMPC with Ubuntu Linux. | 23:01 |
| zakkm | you'd need stylus | 23:01 |
| johnsq | Macer: matchbox isn't good, use some real windowmanager. | 23:01 |
| Macer | johnsq: i wanted something small ;) | 23:02 |
| zakkm | whats wrong with the very top ones | 23:02 |
| Macer | and meant for a tablet | 23:02 |
| Macer | those top ones look too much like a phone ;) | 23:02 |
| Macer | they look like symbian | 23:02 |
| Macer | i need to learn how to get that gnome integration stuff like the bottom one | 23:02 |
| johnsq | Macer: jwm, awesome. | 23:03 |
| Macer | that would be an awesome wm to run | 23:03 |
| Macer | jwm? | 23:03 |
| Macer | have any screen shots? | 23:03 |
| Macer | i wanted something that would work well on the tablet's small screen space | 23:03 |
| johnsq | Macer: http://joewing.net/programs/jwm/screenshots/jwm-2.0.png | 23:03 |
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| johnsq | Macer: fluxbox, openbox all can be configured. My own window manager isn't release ready. | 23:04 |
| Macer | lol | 23:04 |
| Macer | that is too much ;) | 23:04 |
| Macer | i wanted small and simple | 23:04 |
| Macer | that jwm looks kinda like flux box with a bar at the bottom tho | 23:05 |
| Macer | heh | 23:05 |
| Macer | and icons in the menus ;) | 23:05 |
| Macer | bbl. when i get back i have to learn how to do that gnome crap they have at the bottom | 23:05 |
| Macer | that looks awesome :) | 23:05 |
| Macer | i mean i'm no big fan of gnome.. but it's probably better than maemo and the mer guis if i can get it working | 23:05 |
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| Macer | i mean that looks kind of awesome for a tablet ui | 23:06 |
| Macer | kind of like gnome mini or something | 23:06 |
| johnsq | Macer: you can try lxde. | 23:06 |
| Macer | johnsq: i guess | 23:07 |
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| Macer | but first i want to see about doing that matchbox/gnome stuff | 23:07 |
| Macer | that looks win ;) | 23:07 |
| Macer | lxde is a good alternative tho | 23:07 |
| Macer | i remember deblet was using it. it seemed to work well on the tablet | 23:07 |
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| johnsq | Macer: gnome/kde are some overkill. happy memory eating, resource loving. | 23:07 |
| Macer | johnsq: maybe, but in the end i am going to require the gtk apps anyways | 23:07 |
| Macer | and i don't think it's really gnome | 23:07 |
| Macer | i just think it "looks" like gnome and has a couple gnome apps running in it | 23:08 |
| Macer | they're both gtk anyways | 23:08 |
| Macer | ok. going to shower.. bbiab | 23:08 |
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| krzysz00 | why does libboost-regex1.34.1 not contain a library? | 23:21 |
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| krzysz00 | hello? | 23:23 |
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| krzysz00 | why does libboost-regex1.34.1 not contain a library? | 23:23 |
| Macer | actuallly. i'm going to take my son to the park instead.. i'll work on this when i get some more free time | 23:24 |
| Macer | i need to set up the wifi for the tether too | 23:24 |
| Macer | and hopefully i don't have any problems :) | 23:24 |
| krzysz00 | libboost-regex is broken | 23:24 |
| krzysz00 | i think | 23:24 |
| Macer | in the meantime. i'll install blackbox or fluxbox | 23:25 |
| fiferboy | krzysz00: Are you looking at the armel packages or i386? | 23:25 |
| krzysz00 | i386 | 23:25 |
| fiferboy | I think mikkov_ was unable to get it to build for i386 so dummied it out | 23:26 |
| fiferboy | IIRC, armel actually contain the library | 23:26 |
| krzysz00 | apt-get source? | 23:26 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/ridicolouslyflexible.png | 23:27 |
| Stskeeps | (i know that's a shitty shot but that's zenity stuck in a bloody taskbar..) | 23:27 |
| Macer | it looks like the mer gui | 23:30 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, but implemented in FVWM instead | 23:30 |
| Stskeeps | http://zenvoid.org/tmp/fvwm/fvwm-app-launcher_20090727.png is how it looks with a background | 23:30 |
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| Macer | oh | 23:31 |
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| Macer | wow Stskeeps .. that is very nice looking | 23:31 |
| Stskeeps | second one isn't my work, but that is our fvwm branch | 23:31 |
| Macer | but how well does it function? ;) | 23:31 |
| Stskeeps | pretty well | 23:31 |
| Stskeeps | not always for hildon apps, but for rest, sure | 23:32 |
| Macer | well. i don't think hildon apps are that important anymore | 23:32 |
| Macer | seeing as they don't really xfer over very well :) | 23:32 |
| Stskeeps | they are still important, tbh | 23:32 |
| Macer | really? which ones are you looking at that seem to be required? | 23:32 |
| zakkm | osso-xterm :) | 23:32 |
| Macer | haha | 23:32 |
| zakkm | why hah | 23:33 |
| Macer | osso-xterm is actually pretty good :) | 23:33 |
| zakkm | thats the best terminal for tablet | 23:33 |
| johnsq | Stskeeps: I still search any usefull maemo application | 23:33 |
| zakkm | well console, but thats not possible in mer really | 23:33 |
| Macer | zakkm: no... i think osso-xterm is great | 23:33 |
| Macer | it works very well | 23:33 |
| Stskeeps | johnsq: maemo-mapper? :P | 23:33 |
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| Macer | Stskeeps: can't un-hildonize it? :) | 23:33 |
| Stskeeps | there's a point to some hildonization you know :) | 23:34 |
| zakkm | johnsq: whats wrong with osso-xterm? | 23:34 |
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| Macer | love the transparent bar now | 23:34 |
| Macer | that is a really nice looking desktop | 23:34 |
| zakkm | it was always transparent? | 23:34 |
| Macer | was it? | 23:34 |
| Macer | hehe | 23:34 |
| zakkm | yeah | 23:34 |
| Macer | maybe it's the background he's using | 23:34 |
| johnsq | Stskeeps: its no maemo app (iirc), you don't mean the original map app. | 23:34 |
| Macer | it stands out more | 23:34 |
| zakkm | thats more like 100% transparency though mind you | 23:34 |
| Macer | hm | 23:34 |
| zakkm | mer i think seems like 60-70 | 23:35 |
| Macer | hm. there is a gnome flag for matchbox | 23:35 |
| zakkm | yeah | 23:35 |
| Macer | maybe that will add that gnome integration i saw on the matchbox site | 23:35 |
| zakkm | to include gnome stuff or not | 23:35 |
| Macer | heh | 23:35 |
| zakkm | packages, apps and such | 23:35 |
| Stskeeps | johnsq: maemo mapper is a maemo app afaik :P | 23:35 |
| Macer | no kidding | 23:35 |
| Macer | that would be great | 23:35 |
| johnsq | zakkm: I don't need it, theres is rxvt. xterm, urxvt many functional terminal application | 23:35 |
| Macer | if i can get that damn gnome look to matchbox just by adding gnome to my USE | 23:35 |
| Macer | johnsq: aterm ftw ;) | 23:36 |
| Macer | ok... bbl... going to take my son to the park | 23:36 |
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| msaraiva | Hi | 23:38 |
| msaraiva | I have a problem trying to flash my N800 | 23:38 |
| msaraiva | Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy | 23:38 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Are you root? | 23:39 |
| msaraiva | Mandriva x86_64 | 23:39 |
| msaraiva | 2.6.30 | 23:39 |
| msaraiva | Yep | 23:39 |
| msaraiva | I don't get "operation not permited" | 23:39 |
| msaraiva | If i was running as a non-root user, i'd get this message. | 23:39 |
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| msaraiva | Help, i need to flash my n800 :S | 23:41 |
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| msaraiva | I bought it used, and don't want to run it "as is". | 23:42 |
| javispedro | ~flashing | 23:42 |
| infobot | well, flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware | 23:42 |
| johnsq | msaraiva: look dmesg, if you see nokia update mode | 23:43 |
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| msaraiva | Yep | 23:44 |
| lcuk | msaraiva, make sure the device is directly into the computer (not a hub) | 23:44 |
| msaraiva | Nokia Update Mode it is. | 23:44 |
| msaraiva | And it's directly attached to the computer. | 23:44 |
| * javispedro checks logs and apologizes for useless suggestion. | 23:45 | |
| lcuk | msaraiva, try taking battery out and have flashing app sitting there saying "waiting for device" | 23:45 |
| lcuk | then put battery in and do vulcan grip thing till its in update mode | 23:45 |
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| msaraiva | "Vulcan grip"? | 23:46 |
| lcuk | press the button you need | 23:46 |
| zakkm | vulcan grip? | 23:46 |
| zakkm | "home key" ? | 23:46 |
| lcuk | whichever key it is | 23:46 |
| msaraiva | lol | 23:46 |
| msaraiva | hehehe | 23:46 |
| lcuk | i normally end up dancing around the keys | 23:46 |
| zakkm | msaraiva: the bottom button on nokia | 23:46 |
| msaraiva | Man, this battery is hard to come out... | 23:46 |
| zakkm | small house | 23:46 |
| msaraiva | Yeah, the home key. | 23:46 |
| zakkm | hold it... and press power.. and key holding it till you see usb icon in corner | 23:47 |
| zakkm | and pc will do the flashing | 23:47 |
| zakkm | that is if it started with "waiting.." | 23:47 |
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| msaraiva | Should the battery be this hard to come out? | 23:48 |
| lcuk | different devices are looser than others | 23:48 |
| lcuk | on my 810 it falls out if i sneeze | 23:48 |
| lcuk | on 800 i have to bang it | 23:48 |
| zakkm | msaraiva: push on the one side | 23:48 |
| msaraiva | lol, i was trying to spring it out from the wrong side | 23:49 |
| zakkm | with a nail.. "pry it out" | 23:49 |
| msaraiva | USB device found found at bus 001, device address 003 Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy | 23:50 |
| msaraiva | Damn... | 23:50 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/freemantle.png <- see where i'm going with this? | 23:50 |
| Stskeeps | (yes, the extra 'e' is intentional.) | 23:51 |
| msaraiva | Don't know what to do anymore. | 23:51 |
| msaraiva | :S | 23:51 |
| zakkm | woooh | 23:51 |
| javispedro | does lsof work for usbfs files? | 23:51 |
| zakkm | msaraiva: you run as root? | 23:51 |
| msaraiva | [root@mark Download]# ./flasher-3.0.amd64 -F RX-34_DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R | 23:52 |
| zakkm | Stskeeps: i likeeee :) , you should do that !info thing .. and post that :P | 23:52 |
| zakkm | the thing for mer news on "twitter" | 23:52 |
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| msaraiva | So, to sum it up: I'm running the flasher as root, n800 directly attached to usb, and i'm putting the N800 in flash mode. | 23:53 |
| msaraiva | Aug 18 17:50:27 mark klogd: usb 1-7: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 Aug 18 17:50:27 mark klogd: usb 1-7: New USB device found, idVendor=0421, idProduct=0105 Aug 18 17:50:27 mark klogd: usb 1-7: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Aug | 23:53 |
| msaraiva | Ops | 23:53 |
| msaraiva | Sorry | 23:53 |
| zakkm | msaraiva: hmm give me a sec k? | 23:54 |
| zakkm | you know you can also use "clear device" on the tablet itself, if they kept it up to dat eit wouldnt matter | 23:55 |
| msaraiva | K | 23:55 |
| zakkm | future references. | 23:55 |
| msaraiva | Where can i find "clear device"? | 23:55 |
| zakkm | control panel | 23:55 |
| zakkm | app menu - settings - control panel | 23:55 |
| msaraiva | Lemme check. | 23:55 |
| msaraiva | That's the first thing i thought of doing. | 23:55 |
| zakkm | click menu button ( above home/house key ) | 23:55 |
| msaraiva | Lol | 23:55 |
| zakkm | and tools - clear device | 23:55 |
| msaraiva | K, it's booting... | 23:55 |
| msaraiva | Lemme check. | 23:55 |
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| javispedro | or use the windows flasher, since this seems a host pc os issue. | 23:56 |
| zakkm | msaraiva: willing to try flasher-3.5? | 23:56 |
| msaraiva | Yep | 23:56 |
| zakkm | theres also things like usb didnt get mounted, and such you can do | 23:56 |
| zakkm | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php | 23:57 |
| msaraiva | USBFS is mounted... | 23:57 |
| msaraiva | no x86_64, unfortunately | 23:57 |
| zakkm | mind uh | 23:57 |
| zakkm | pastebin the whole thing? | 23:57 |
| zakkm | can see whole log from flasher | 23:58 |
| msaraiva | K | 23:58 |
| zakkm | or alternate pastebin's or something | 23:58 |
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| msaraiva | http://pastebin.org/10062 | 23:58 |
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| Stskeeps | Macer: http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/freemantle-appmanager.png ;p | 23:59 |
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