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| Macer | i have to windex it off and take pictures of it | 00:00 |
| Macer | i have a clear cover on it so once i take it off it will look brand new on the outside | 00:00 |
| Macer | i want to get a netbook instead | 00:00 |
| Macer | this thing has gotten on my last nerve | 00:00 |
| Proteous | heh | 00:01 |
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| tds5016 | hello all. can someone tell me where files go when you place them on the n800? | 00:45 |
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| tds5016 | I don't know where it mounts when you connect over usb. | 00:45 |
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| Macer | damn vbox runs great | 00:48 |
| Macer | i sure wish i had a cpu that supported virtualization :) | 00:48 |
| Macer | guess that will have to wait for the next system | 00:49 |
| jaem | hey folks | 00:49 |
| jaem | does anybody here know much about Python && Maemo 4? | 00:49 |
| tds5016 | anyone able to help me out? | 00:51 |
| tds5016 | jaem depends on what you need. | 00:51 |
| jaem | tds5016: I was following an example on the forums to make a simple Home Widget | 00:51 |
| tds5016 | yeah, I'm out ;-) haha. | 00:51 |
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| jaem | okay, thanks anyhow | 00:52 |
| jaem | I'm still learning Python, so it might be something stupid on my part | 00:52 |
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| tds5016 | I can take a look at the python, I'm not an expert in the language, but I can spot something obvious. | 00:52 |
| jaem | sure, thanks | 00:52 |
| tds5016 | I just can't promise I'll be able to tell what's going on with the OS. ;-) | 00:53 |
| jaem | right | 00:53 |
| jaem | one sec, and I'll Pastebin it | 00:53 |
| tds5016 | good news | 00:53 |
| jaem | I was probably in a bit over my head, just reading the GTK docs and essentially translating a really basic PyQt widget for a different platform into something for Maemo, so it probably is my fault | 00:54 |
| tds5016 | hmm, pygtk is certainly a different beast ;-) | 00:55 |
| jaem | yes - it looked simple enough | 00:56 |
| tds5016 | you wouldn't happen to know where the damned file system is mounted when you plug into a pc? | 00:56 |
| jaem | which filesystem? | 00:56 |
| tds5016 | (more specifically a mac, but it shouldn't make a difference. haha) | 00:56 |
| tds5016 | I wanna know where files go on the n800 when you plug in the n800 to the pc. | 00:57 |
| jaem | oh | 00:57 |
| jaem | well, it should show up as two mass-storage devices | 00:57 |
| jaem | corresponding to your two SD cards | 00:57 |
| qwerty12_N810 | tds5016: The N800 unmounts the cards from the device when you plug in the cable. | 00:57 |
| jaem | at least, that's how it works on the N810 | 00:57 |
| jaem | qwerty12_N810: thanks for pointing that out | 00:57 |
| tds5016 | thanks. how exactly do I find the files. | 00:58 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 00:58 |
| tds5016 | I tossed a python file on it, and I need to run it ;-) | 00:58 |
| jaem | that reminds me - can one just mount the onboard jffs2 rootfs normally, or is there a special procedure? | 00:58 |
| jaem | tds5016: /media/mmc1 or mmc2 | 00:58 |
| tds5016 | yeah, no dice :-/. | 00:59 |
| jaem | oh? | 00:59 |
| tds5016 | the n800 doesn't have bluetooth? | 00:59 |
| jaem | what's in /media | 00:59 |
| jaem | yep | 00:59 |
| jaem | it does | 00:59 |
| tds5016 | mmc1 & mmc2 | 00:59 |
| jaem | tds5016: is your N800 new? | 00:59 |
| jaem | and the file isn't in there? | 00:59 |
| tds5016 | the file's not there. | 01:00 |
| qwerty12_N810 | jaem: you can mount it from initfs or an mmc booted system but my efforts in getting the node exported over usb via g_file_storage amounted to shit-all :/ | 01:00 |
| lbt | tds5016: is the back cover on | 01:00 |
| lbt | and is the little flap closed | 01:00 |
| jaem | qwerty12_N810: I just need to pull my python files off of it | 01:00 |
| jaem | which node is it again? | 01:01 |
| tds5016 | what flap? | 01:01 |
| lbt | N800? | 01:01 |
| jaem | lbt: yep | 01:01 |
| qwerty12_N810 | jaem: /dev/mtdblock4 | 01:01 |
| lbt | at the bottom under the handle is a flap for the external mmc | 01:01 |
| jaem | qwerty12_N810: any switches? -t? That's what I tried before | 01:01 |
| qwerty12_N810 | jaem: -t jffs2 :) | 01:01 |
| jaem | riiiiight | 01:01 |
| tds5016 | yeah, n800 | 01:02 |
| lbt | so tds5016 is that flap closed? | 01:02 |
| tds5016 | I just snapped something off of it. hahaha! I hope that didn't rbeak it. | 01:02 |
| jaem | qwerty12_N810: why is it that the switches aren't always needed on some systems? | 01:02 |
| tds5016 | lbt: the big flap on the back, yes. | 01:02 |
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| lbt | and the one that's covered up when you shut the handle/stand | 01:03 |
| tds5016 | now it showed up randomly... | 01:03 |
| qwerty12_N810 | jaem: /etc/fstab entries afaik | 01:03 |
| jaem | okay | 01:03 |
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| jaem | well, it worked now | 01:03 |
| jaem | ...after /me remembered to actually make sure the mount point *existed* | 01:03 |
| jaem | heh | 01:03 |
| lbt | there are magnets that detect that the covers are closed and unmount the mmc cards .... ask me how long I spent... | 01:03 |
| jaem | lbt: so that's how they do it... | 01:04 |
| jaem | on the N810 too? | 01:04 |
| jaem | the magnets, that is | 01:04 |
| lbt | I guess so.... ask qwerty12_N810 | 01:04 |
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| jaem | gah... K3B is much too triumphant when it burns a disc successfully | 01:05 |
| jaem | it could do with less fanfare | 01:05 |
| jaem | literally... | 01:05 |
| jaem | ;) | 01:05 |
| tds5016 | does the n800 not come with a gps? | 01:06 |
| jaem | tds5016: nope | 01:06 |
| jaem | that came in the N810 | 01:06 |
| jaem | although you're not missing much - the internal gps isn't very good | 01:06 |
| tds5016 | yeah, I have an n810 too. | 01:06 |
| tds5016 | I'm trying to write the program to work on both. | 01:06 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 01:07 |
| tds5016 | how do I get to the bluetooth on the n800? | 01:07 |
| jaem | tds5016: I would think that a BT gps unit would work with the gpsd the same way | 01:07 |
| jaem | see ^ | 01:07 |
| tds5016 | I've got a bluetooth gps ;-) | 01:07 |
| jaem | ah | 01:07 |
| jaem | then pair it | 01:07 |
| tds5016 | haha, I need to figure out how to access the bluetooth on the n800 to pair it. | 01:07 |
| jaem | I haven't tried, but I don't think it's terribly difficult | 01:07 |
| tds5016 | ont he n810 it's in the connection settings :-/. | 01:07 |
| jaem | also, minigpsd is better | 01:07 |
| jaem | oh, that's what you mean | 01:08 |
| jaem | meant* | 01:08 |
| tds5016 | ;-) | 01:08 |
| qwerty12_N810 | tds5016: Control Panel -> GPS Location | 01:08 |
| tds5016 | minigpsd? I'm just using python's pygpsbt ;-) | 01:08 |
| jaem | tds5016: I meant the system daemon | 01:08 |
| jaem | not the module to access gps functions | 01:08 |
| tds5016 | oh, gotchya ;-) | 01:08 |
| tds5016 | thanks! | 01:08 |
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| z4chh | anyone know package i can install to get iwlib.h? ...google didn't have much to say :| | 01:09 |
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| tds5016 | oh, how I don't wanna try to get them to buy more gps devices. haha. | 01:09 |
| auntieNeo | the maemo sdk installer is pretty bad... if it fails to download one of its thousands of packages, you have to start all over :( | 01:09 |
| jaem | auntieNeo: I know - I'm not a fan | 01:10 |
| qwerty12_N810 | z4chh: libiw-dev | 01:10 |
| z4chh | sweet thanks qwerty | 01:11 |
| tds5016 | many thanks guys! | 01:11 |
| auntieNeo | why can't they just use a tarball? as far as I can tell, it's just extracting them <_< | 01:11 |
| jaem | completely OT, but has anybody seen a website where you can submit a photo of an unidentifiable object so the Internets can tell you what it is? | 01:11 |
| jaem | I have something really strange that a friend gave me as a gag gift, just to confuse me | 01:11 |
| auntieNeo | imageshack+irc? | 01:12 |
| auntieNeo | or 4chan? ;P | 01:12 |
| jaem | auntieNeo: I stay away from 4chan | 01:12 |
| jaem | but that is still a valid suggestion, I suppose | 01:12 |
| jaem | heh | 01:12 |
| auntieNeo | I was mostly kidding :P | 01:12 |
| auntieNeo | you could always try it though | 01:12 |
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| jaem | hmm | 01:20 |
| jaem | is there an actual reference for the hildon-desktop python bindings anywhere? | 01:20 |
| jaem | I couldn't find one | 01:20 |
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| tds5016 | the other thing... | 01:24 |
| tds5016 | the n800 camera deal... | 01:24 |
| tds5016 | it's stupid as all hell... | 01:25 |
| tds5016 | it flips around, but makes everything upside down. haha. | 01:25 |
| tds5016 | I don't want to have to account for that. the n8100 will KEEP everything upside down fi you physically flip the device too. if it's smart enough to do that, I shouldn't have to account for it in my software. haha. | 01:25 |
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| jaem_afk | tds5016: that would make things too easy ;) | 01:26 |
| jaem_afk | what are you coding? | 01:26 |
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| tds5016 | video streaming stuff... it's a little more involved, and I'm not allowed to get that detailed :-/. | 01:26 |
| tds5016 | s/and/but | 01:27 |
| jaem_afk | *raises eyebrow* | 01:27 |
| jaem_afk | okay | 01:27 |
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| tds5016 | the other thing that is getting really old... the folks in the network operations center that are telling me that the ports I need open are opened. | 01:28 |
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| tds5016 | they got ONE of the ten I actually need opened opened. | 01:28 |
| jaem_afk | ha | 01:28 |
| jaem_afk | where are you working? | 01:28 |
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| tds5016 | Penn State at the moment. | 01:28 |
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| tds5016 | I'm in a research department here that is funded by ARL and a couple of larger companies. | 01:29 |
| tds5016 | defense* | 01:29 |
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| tds5016 | In about a month or so, I'm going to Cali to work for Cisco though. haha. | 01:29 |
| jaem_afk | nice | 01:29 |
| tds5016 | but I like it here, I'm going to miss the environment of working at a research university. | 01:30 |
| * jaem_afk nods | 01:30 | |
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| tds5016 | I've only been outa school for about a few months, and I already miss undergrad! | 01:30 |
| * tds5016 is done being off topic. haha. | 01:31 | |
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| Proteous | topics, we don't need no stinking topics | 01:33 |
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| tds5016 | haha, good call. | 01:34 |
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| veganman | hello | 01:54 |
| veganman | I've just inserted a memory stick in my n810, how to foramt it? | 01:54 |
| veganman | format | 01:54 |
| veganman | or should I say partition | 01:54 |
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| jaem_afk | veganman: it's probably easier to do it from your PC | 01:56 |
| jaem_afk | but if you want, you can use the mkfs.vfat command in the console (I'm not sure if it's installed by default) | 01:56 |
| jaem_afk | whatever you do, you'll probably want to format it FAT32, for interoperability with Windows | 01:57 |
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| Maiku | is it possible to use the bootmenu to have items for the same partition, but multiple kernels? | 01:59 |
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| veganman | I'm sorry I don't have windows... | 02:01 |
| veganman | nor I have a memory stick reader on my peecee | 02:02 |
| veganman | I would have to do it from the nokia | 02:02 |
| veganman | how? | 02:02 |
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| GAN8001 | andre__, formfactor changes, endless delays, all of the unfulfilled promises. | 02:14 |
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| jaem_afk | veganman: sorry, I have to run - someone else should be able to help you, though, if you stick around | 02:20 |
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| veganman | sorry, if I don't own windows | 02:21 |
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| auntieNeo | okay, so I've got this maemo sandbox running... where does maemo store Images and Documents and crap? | 02:22 |
| auntieNeo | under the sandbox hiarchy | 02:22 |
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| auntieNeo | uh, there's a bunch of hidden folders under MyDocs, like .images, but I've put files in there and they don't show up in the maemo gui | 02:27 |
| auntieNeo | maybe the sandbox just doesn't work like it does natively :/ | 02:28 |
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| GeneralAntilles | scratchbox | 02:31 |
| auntieNeo | yes, that :P | 02:32 |
| auntieNeo | I got confused | 02:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | But, no, I can't help. | 02:33 |
| auntieNeo | it is a type of sandbox | 02:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haven't really used scratchbox before | 02:33 |
| auntieNeo | lol, it's okay :P | 02:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | One a cat might utilize. | 02:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | Which is an apt comparison. | 02:33 |
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| tds5016 | anyone know of a simple python api for interfacing with jabber? | 02:49 |
| crashanddie | pyjabber | 02:52 |
| auntieNeo | wooo, my app works in sandbox with NO effort on my part :D | 02:53 |
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| auntieNeo | well, it's not even my app either :P | 02:53 |
| auntieNeo | <3 open source | 02:53 |
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| tds5016 | crashanddie: is pyjabber available on maemo? | 02:57 |
| tds5016 | anyone able to point me in a direction for writing a messaging app on maemo? | 02:58 |
| tds5016 | I technically need to write a messaging add-in to a current project I'm working on. haha. | 02:59 |
| auntieNeo | heh, what do you mean, messaging app? | 03:00 |
| Robot101 | tds5016: use telepathy, its the built-in messaging framework | 03:01 |
| Robot101 | tds5016: telepathy has python bindings already | 03:01 |
| tds5016 | Robot101: will that allow me to write a custom interface? | 03:01 |
| tds5016 | and send messages back and forth secrurely? | 03:01 |
| Robot101 | user interface? yes | 03:01 |
| Robot101 | securely, between you and the server, yes... | 03:02 |
| tds5016 | I bassically already have an application written in python, I need to add messaging support to it. | 03:02 |
| tds5016 | Robot101 are there some docs or tutorials you could point me at to get me started? | 03:02 |
| tds5016 | sounds like exactly what I need. | 03:02 |
| Robot101 | tds5016: telepathy-python has examples in - http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=telepathy-python.git;a=tree;f=examples;h=d52252093afecdd2d5dc9a11ab99f4fce5e3293c;hb=HEAD | 03:03 |
| tds5016 | Robot101: do I need to install anything on my devices? | 03:03 |
| tds5016 | aka the libraries, etc. are already there? | 03:04 |
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| Robot101 | I don't know if anyone packaged the python bindings for maemo | 03:04 |
| Robot101 | https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/extras-cauldron-builds/2009-March/005830.html | 03:04 |
| Robot101 | maybe someone did | 03:04 |
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| tds5016 | can't find telepathy-python :-/. | 03:07 |
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| tds5016 | also, if I use telepathy, do I need to set up a telepathy server? | 03:09 |
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| Robot101 | what do you mean a server? | 03:10 |
| Robot101 | the telepathy XMPP backend connects to normal XMPP servers | 03:10 |
| tds5016 | where are messages being sent/to? | 03:11 |
| tds5016 | sorry, I don't understand messaging protocols all that well :-/. | 03:11 |
| Robot101 | you sign in to an XMPP account on an XMPP server, like GTalk is an XMPP server | 03:11 |
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| tds5016 | okay, would I need to set up an xmpp server? | 03:12 |
| tds5016 | or... COULD I set up an xmpp server? | 03:12 |
| tds5016 | honestly, the ideal situation would be if I could just use jabber, because we already have the server set up and running. | 03:13 |
| Robot101 | you wouldn't, you can use gmail, or jabber.org, or there are loads more free ones | 03:13 |
| Robot101 | XMPP *is* jabber | 03:13 |
| tds5016 | oh, gotchya :-) | 03:13 |
| tds5016 | (off topic, but I'm seeing a lot of information about libpurple | 03:14 |
| auntieNeo | mmm... my app segfaults when it calls opendir() :/ | 03:14 |
| Robot101 | tds5016: telepathy-haze uses libpurple to connect to the protocols which telepathy doesn't support natively | 03:15 |
| Robot101 | tds5016: but telepathy has its own eg XMPP, SIP, link-local XMPP (bonjour/rendezvous), IRC and MSN backends which have more functionality | 03:15 |
| tds5016 | hmm, could I just go straight to python-purple, because it looks like it's actually already packaged for the maemo | 03:15 |
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| auntieNeo | woah, why the heck does this thing call ntp_gettime()? :s | 03:17 |
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| tds5016 | Robot101: thanks for your help! I'll probably be back tomorrow bugging you for help. haha. | 03:19 |
| tds5016 | I've gotta get home. it's 8:30, and my workday was over at 5. haha. | 03:19 |
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| auntieNeo | do you have to access files in a different way with maemo? it seems that I always segfault when I try to do anything to do with files | 03:25 |
| auntieNeo | actually, sometimes it segfaults... | 03:25 |
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| auntieNeo | but other times __fsetlocking() aborts | 03:25 |
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| auntieNeo | mmm | 03:26 |
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| susan | I downloaded maemo virtual sdk and Esbox_2.0.0-M4.Howerver,there is no maemo when i open Esbox | 03:39 |
| susan | help,help | 03:40 |
| auntieNeo | um, you have to run a command to start the maemo gui... | 03:41 |
| auntieNeo | which I forgot :P | 03:42 |
| auntieNeo | af-sb-init.sh start | 03:42 |
| auntieNeo | is the command :P | 03:42 |
| auntieNeo | you have to run it from inside scratchbox | 03:42 |
| auntieNeo | but uh, you have to be running an x server as well... you should read the documentation :P | 03:43 |
| auntieNeo | I'm not using eclipse, so I wouldn't know | 03:44 |
| susan | where to run command to start the maemo gui. | 03:48 |
| susan | I am in windows | 03:48 |
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| susan | The Esbox is as same as eclipse.is it right? | 03:49 |
| susan | All i downloaded is the virtural sdk image and Esbox. | 03:49 |
| auntieNeo | uh, with windows I'm not very sure | 03:50 |
| susan | Not at all | 03:51 |
| auntieNeo | wow, the documentation is very Linux specific... | 03:51 |
| susan | yeah | 03:51 |
| auntieNeo | is it even possible to run maemo in windows? the way scratchbox works, I doubt it :s | 03:51 |
| auntieNeo | susan: i think you need to get a VM and run ubuntu or something | 03:52 |
| susan | yeah | 03:52 |
| auntieNeo | susan: virtual box is free | 03:52 |
| auntieNeo | and uh, vmware player | 03:52 |
| susan | i am runing in vmplayer | 03:52 |
| susan | i use command vmplayer *.vmx | 03:52 |
| susan | it will start vitual machine. | 03:53 |
| auntieNeo | some one posted a vmware image a while back... hold on, I have to look in my logs :P | 03:53 |
| susan | thanks | 03:53 |
| auntieNeo | 01:44 < X-Fade> auntieNeo: http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ | 03:54 |
| auntieNeo | 01:45 < X-Fade> auntieNeo: Or better http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/beta1/ | 03:54 |
| auntieNeo | np | 03:54 |
| susan | yeah,i downloaded from this url. | 03:55 |
| auntieNeo | it's not working? | 03:55 |
| susan | No,the Esbox is not working | 03:55 |
| susan | the virtual sdk image is working normolly | 03:56 |
| susan | The Esbox is like eclipse. | 03:56 |
| auntieNeo | try running "/scratchbox/login" from a command prompt | 03:57 |
| susan | yeah | 03:57 |
| susan | i can run it | 03:57 |
| auntieNeo | also, check this out if you haven't yet: http://maemo.org/maemo_release_documentation/maemo4.1.x/node4.html | 03:57 |
| Luke-Jr | vmware is not free | 03:57 |
| auntieNeo | Luke-Jr: the player is free as in beer | 03:57 |
| Luke-Jr | auntieNeo: that's "gratis", not free | 03:58 |
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| auntieNeo | it is indeed free ;P | 03:58 |
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| Luke-Jr | no | 03:58 |
| auntieNeo | by certain definitions | 03:58 |
| Luke-Jr | it's *free of charge* | 03:58 |
| auntieNeo | dude, I'll pumel you | 03:58 |
| Luke-Jr | aka gratis | 03:58 |
| Luke-Jr | you're abusing the English language | 03:58 |
| auntieNeo | <_< | 03:58 |
| Luke-Jr | >:/ | 03:58 |
| auntieNeo | no, you are | 03:58 |
| Luke-Jr | no u | 03:58 |
| auntieNeo | gratis is spanish | 03:58 |
| Luke-Jr | gratis is English too | 03:58 |
| Luke-Jr | "free" != "free of charge" | 03:58 |
| auntieNeo | susan: just follow that guide, but skip down to section 3.4, because you don't need to install the SDK I assume | 03:59 |
| Luke-Jr | language abuser! | 03:59 |
| auntieNeo | free | 03:59 |
| auntieNeo | adj 1: able to act at will; not hampered; not under compulsion or restraint; "free enterprise"; "a free port"; "a free country"; "I have an hour free"; "free will"; "free of racism"; "feel free to stay as long as you wish"; "a free choice" [ant: unfree] | 03:59 |
| susan | i just want to have a IDE environment. | 03:59 |
| auntieNeo | 3: costing nothing; "complimentary tickets" [syn: complimentary, costless, gratis(p), gratuitous] | 03:59 |
| Luke-Jr | language abuser! | 04:00 |
| auntieNeo | susan: pfffft, IDE's are for the weak ;P | 04:00 |
| auntieNeo | *rolls-eyes* | 04:00 |
| * auntieNeo puts Luke-Jr in the corner with RMS :( | 04:00 | |
| auntieNeo | for the record, I don't use vmware myself. I use qemu. | 04:00 |
| auntieNeo | vmware is a binary blob | 04:00 |
| auntieNeo | I do not trust it | 04:00 |
| Luke-Jr | no wai, RMS compromises! | 04:01 |
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| auntieNeo | RMS gives free software a bad name by being a bitch :( | 04:01 |
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| auntieNeo | does anyone in here use eclipse? | 04:02 |
| auntieNeo | I tried it once, but it's still loading... | 04:02 |
| auntieNeo | :) | 04:02 |
| susan | i am newbie.i think it will be very complex without eclipse. | 04:03 |
| susan | Now i just want to use eclipse. | 04:04 |
| auntieNeo | no. IDE's always make things harder than they need to be. If you don't know how it works, what do you do when the IDE fails? :( | 04:04 |
| auntieNeo | IDE's are a convenience, but shouldn't be a crutch | 04:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | Like goes with like. | 04:04 |
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| susan | yeah,all you do can be completed with command. | 04:05 |
| auntieNeo | susan: use that guide and start from section 3.4... it's all layed out so even a newbie can do it | 04:05 |
| auntieNeo | it tells you what editor to use and how to list files and everything | 04:05 |
| susan | i think it is a challenge | 04:05 |
| auntieNeo | DO I DETECT A CHALLENGE?! :> | 04:06 |
| auntieNeo | I love challenges, myself | 04:06 |
| susan | thanks.i have another question. | 04:06 |
| auntieNeo | okay | 04:06 |
| susan | do you know how to add chinese support. | 04:06 |
| auntieNeo | yeah, I do... hold on... | 04:07 |
| susan | i want to let GtkWiget displaying chinese fonts | 04:07 |
| auntieNeo | wait, did you ask this before? | 04:07 |
| susan | yeah. | 04:07 |
| susan | i can't success now | 04:07 |
| auntieNeo | http://maemocjk.garage.maemo.org/ | 04:07 |
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| auntieNeo | I don't think it works for scratchbox though | 04:08 |
| auntieNeo | it's easier to test it on a device afterwards | 04:08 |
| susan | yeah,this is the chinese support,but i can't open browser to link it | 04:08 |
| auntieNeo | I myself am writting an app that uses chinese fonts... but I probably won't bother installing fonts until I have a device to test it with | 04:09 |
| susan | yeah, i think it should install fonts | 04:09 |
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| susan | the fonts is a file with .install extension.how to install it. | 04:10 |
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| auntieNeo | I'm trying to figure that out myself | 04:11 |
| auntieNeo | http://maemocjk.garage.maemo.org/maemo-japanese-support-diablo.install # that's one of the install files, but I can't figure out where the debs are stored... | 04:11 |
| auntieNeo | help? :P | 04:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | .installs point to packages in repositories | 04:12 |
| susan | yeah | 04:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | The .install should have the repo URL | 04:12 |
| auntieNeo | so, I guess you have to configure your package manager for that repo... | 04:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | The .install does that for you | 04:12 |
| auntieNeo | <-- not a debian person :P | 04:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | With Application Manager anyway | 04:13 |
| auntieNeo | it won't if you can't open it xD | 04:13 |
| susan | the problem i have is the same as autieNeo. | 04:14 |
| susan | i can't use url to install | 04:14 |
| auntieNeo | GeneralAntilles: this is in a scratchbox | 04:14 |
| auntieNeo | is there a command? :P | 04:14 |
| * auntieNeo reads the ubuntu documentation :P | 04:16 | |
| GeneralAntilles | http://maemocjk.garage.maemo.org/dists/diablo/user/binary-armel/ | 04:17 |
| * GeneralAntilles is handicapped by peanutbutter fingers | 04:17 | |
| auntieNeo | mmm... this won't work with x86 | 04:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | No x86 binaries | 04:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | Build your own, I guess. | 04:19 |
| auntieNeo | I'm lazy :P | 04:19 |
| auntieNeo | well, we can still use the fonts | 04:20 |
| auntieNeo | we probably won't need the input methods just yet | 04:20 |
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| auntieNeo | susan: okay, enter these commands, then try it: | 04:24 |
| auntieNeo | wget 'http://maemocjk.garage.maemo.org/dists/diablo/user/binary-armel/ttf-baekmuk_2.2-1maemo2_all.deb' | 04:25 |
| auntieNeo | dpkg -i ttf-baekmuk_2.2-1maemo2_all.deb | 04:25 |
| auntieNeo | ...and then it might work. I haven't tested it myself though, because my app doesn't work yet :P | 04:25 |
| susan | thanks,auntieNeo | 04:25 |
| auntieNeo | no problem | 04:25 |
| susan | maybe it will work | 04:25 |
| auntieNeo | I hope it does :P | 04:26 |
| auntieNeo | it's just a font | 04:26 |
| susan | yeah i think i should install fonts | 04:26 |
| auntieNeo | oh, and you run those from inside sbox, of course | 04:27 |
| susan | ok | 04:27 |
| susan | i can install the fonts,but i don't konw whether it works properly. | 04:30 |
| susan | Now i don't install xserver-xephyr. | 04:30 |
| susan | i used command apt-get install xserver-xephyr in sbox and failed | 04:31 |
| susan | it prompt "Couldn't find package xserver-xephyr | 04:31 |
| susan | maybe i should update source.list. | 04:32 |
| susan | any idea? auntieNeo. | 04:33 |
| auntieNeo | no, xephyr is not part of sbox, but is used on the side | 04:33 |
| susan | yeah. | 04:33 |
| auntieNeo | xephyr is an X server that lets you view what's happening in sbox | 04:33 |
| auntieNeo | basically | 04:33 |
| auntieNeo | it's confusing if you haven't used linux before :/ | 04:33 |
| susan | yeah.but i can't install it successfully | 04:33 |
| susan | yeah. | 04:33 |
| susan | i know little about it | 04:34 |
| auntieNeo | but in a regular command prompt, you're supposed to run Xephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 800x480x16 -dpi 96 -ac \ | 04:34 |
| auntieNeo | it should be installed on your vmware image already | 04:35 |
| susan | ok,wait a sec.i try it | 04:35 |
| susan | yeah,it is not be installed now. | 04:35 |
| auntieNeo | really? :s | 04:36 |
| susan | how to install it. | 04:36 |
| susan | yeah | 04:36 |
| susan | i can't run command xephyr | 04:36 |
| auntieNeo | did you do a captial X? Xypher? | 04:36 |
| auntieNeo | xephyr and Xypher are different commands | 04:36 |
| susan | yeah, i run Xephyr | 04:36 |
| susan | there is no Xephyr | 04:37 |
| auntieNeo | hold on | 04:37 |
| susan | ok. | 04:37 |
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| auntieNeo | does your prompt look like user@system:~$ ? because you can't install Xephyr inside of an sbox prompt | 04:39 |
| auntieNeo | the install command would be apt-get install xserver-xephyr... | 04:39 |
| auntieNeo | but you can't do it in sbox | 04:40 |
| auntieNeo | you do it in ubuntu | 04:40 |
| susan | yeah. | 04:41 |
| susan | i can't do it in sbox | 04:41 |
| auntieNeo | no | 04:41 |
| auntieNeo | don't do it in sbox | 04:41 |
| susan | yeah.maybe i should do it in ubuntu | 04:41 |
| auntieNeo | do it in ubuntu | 04:41 |
| auntieNeo | yes | 04:41 |
| auntieNeo | Xephyr is like, a window looking into sbox | 04:42 |
| auntieNeo | it makes no sense to put it inside of sbox :P | 04:42 |
| auntieNeo | I got Japanese fonts to work :D | 04:43 |
| auntieNeo | but, they don't work with the title bar... only inside the windows do they work :( | 04:43 |
| susan | it failed again and prompt Unable to fetch some archives,maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? | 04:45 |
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| auntieNeo | what failed? | 04:46 |
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| susan | unable find some archives. | 04:46 |
| auntieNeo | for xephyr? | 04:46 |
| susan | yeah. | 04:46 |
| auntieNeo | you should try the Xephyr command before trying to install it | 04:46 |
| susan | ok | 04:47 |
| auntieNeo | the image should have Xephyr by default | 04:47 |
| auntieNeo | it comes with x.org | 04:47 |
| auntieNeo | is it there? :( | 04:47 |
| susan | maybe it has been installed. | 04:47 |
| auntieNeo | do this command | 04:48 |
| auntieNeo | Xephyr :2 -host-cursor -screen 800x480x16 -dpi 96 -ac \ -extension Composite | 04:48 |
| auntieNeo | and then, inside of sbox: | 04:48 |
| auntieNeo | [sbox-DIABLO_X86: ~] > export DISPLAY=:2 | 04:48 |
| susan | when i run Xephyr,it prompt "Xephyr:error while loading shared libraries:libfontenc.so.1:can't open object file:No such file or directory" | 04:48 |
| auntieNeo | mmmm :/ | 04:49 |
| auntieNeo | susan: are you using the vmware image? | 04:51 |
| susan | it prompt "can't open shared object file" | 04:51 |
| susan | yeah. | 04:51 |
| auntieNeo | I can't imagine it would be broken like that | 04:51 |
| auntieNeo | hmmm... | 04:51 |
| susan | i use file "maemosdk_gutsy-10-07.vmdk" | 04:52 |
| susan | it is used widely. | 04:52 |
| susan | Now i am in windows | 04:53 |
| auntieNeo | yeah... | 04:54 |
| auntieNeo | I don't understand how ESbox is supposed to work | 04:54 |
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| auntieNeo | https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wiki/index.php?ESboxOutsideLinuxWithVirtualMachine&id=192&type=g # I assume you've seen this, right? | 04:57 |
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| susan | auntieNeo.Xserver seems not to be installed when i use apt-get install xserver and it prompt "Unmet dependencies" | 04:57 |
| auntieNeo | hmmmmm | 04:58 |
| auntieNeo | hold on, I'm going to run that VM and see for myself :P | 04:58 |
| susan | it seems that there is a lot of package that need to be installed | 04:58 |
| susan | thank you auntieNeo. | 04:58 |
| auntieNeo | according to the ESbox documentation, you need to install cygwin under c:\cygwin | 04:59 |
| auntieNeo | mmmm | 04:59 |
| susan | ok,i try it. | 05:00 |
| susan | is there version requirement for cywin? | 05:00 |
| auntieNeo | the documentation doesn't say anything | 05:01 |
| auntieNeo | just get the latest one | 05:01 |
| auntieNeo | it's just for an X server | 05:01 |
| susan | where is the Esbox documentation? | 05:02 |
| auntieNeo | https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/wiki/index.php?ESboxOutsideLinuxWithVirtualMachine&id=192&type=g | 05:02 |
| auntieNeo | it's big and confusing :( | 05:02 |
| susan | yeah | 05:03 |
| susan | i can't understand clearly | 05:03 |
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| susan | autieNeo:thank you very much. | 05:06 |
| auntieNeo | susan: uh, after you install cygwin with X, and once you have that VM running... | 05:07 |
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| auntieNeo | susan: you go to the ESbox menu and go ESbox > Build Machines | 05:07 |
| susan | ok | 05:07 |
| auntieNeo | and I think you can configure your VM once you get there | 05:08 |
| auntieNeo | this is in windows, running eclipse | 05:08 |
| susan | ok | 05:08 |
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| auntieNeo | I got CJK to work. I just had to restart Xephyr for the fonts to work. | 05:18 |
| auntieNeo | this font isn't very good, but it works | 05:18 |
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| sneakret | What's the secret incantation to install perlmagick in Diablo? | 05:38 |
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| sneakret | Hmmm... I think I'm in a bad state... | 05:41 |
| sneakret | The following packages have unmet dependencies: perl: Depends: perl-base (= 5.8.3-3osso7) but 5.8.3-3osso9 is to be installed | 05:41 |
| sneakret | E: Broken packages | 05:41 |
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| caotic | does anyone knows why when using vncviewer from the n810 all the text input from the keyboard hets duplicate, I type "hi", I get "hhii" | 06:27 |
| auntieNeo | sometimes vnc does that :s | 06:30 |
| caotic | but always ? :( | 06:34 |
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| Luke-Jr | caotic: keyboard repeat | 07:13 |
| Luke-Jr | it thinks you're holding down the key due to network delays | 07:14 |
| Luke-Jr | caotic: x11vnc server disables repeat when someone is connected.. | 07:14 |
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| caotic | Luke-Jr: it does that by default ? since my server is x11vnc | 07:26 |
| Luke-Jr | mine does | 07:26 |
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| sarower | hello.... who is daniel? | 07:38 |
| sarower | said me to ping you in IRC via forum! | 07:39 |
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| Luke-Jr | O.o | 07:40 |
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| sarower | Dasajev: Hello Daniel | 07:51 |
| sarower | you have replied my forum question....and said me to ping you here...! | 07:52 |
| Dasajev | no, it wasn't me :) | 07:52 |
| sarower | Oh i am sorry | 07:53 |
| ukki | sarower: i don't think he's here right now | 07:54 |
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| sarower | it's ok... thank you very much | 07:55 |
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| sarower | any way.. i need to build debian package of home area plug-in for internet tablet. Any help? | 07:56 |
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| RST38h | sarower: cd Conky; sh ./package | 08:14 |
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| sarower | RST38h: but you code does not build....cause i am in maemo sdk 5 | 08:19 |
| RST38h | use sdk 4 | 08:19 |
| Luke-Jr | sarower: pfft SDK, I have Gentoo compiling stuff native on my N915 now | 08:20 |
| RST38h | sdk 5 is in beta and has no documented plugin api afaik | 08:20 |
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| sarower | RST38h: right..... | 08:21 |
| sarower | Luke-Jr: I could not get you | 08:21 |
| sarower | N915 is the next internet tablet...? | 08:22 |
| sarower | latest? | 08:22 |
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| Luke-Jr | sarower: yeah, developer model | 08:23 |
| sarower | Luke-Jr: oh... can I make build of applet for it....? | 08:25 |
| sarower | Luke-Jr: Is there any guide...? | 08:25 |
| Luke-Jr | … | 08:27 |
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| susan__ | When i started maemo sdk image and used command sudo,the shell will prompt "sudo: must be setuid root". | 08:32 |
| susan__ | Some people come across the same situation? | 08:33 |
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| susan__ | When i started maemo sdk image and used command sudo,the shell will prompt "sudo: must be setuid root". | 09:06 |
| susan__ | When i started maemo sdk image and used command sudo,the shell will prompt "sudo: must be setuid root". | 09:06 |
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| adeus | it doesn't seemt o recognize it | 09:41 |
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| RST38h | Hehe, Apple is trying to make Russian cell service providers to sell subsidized iPhones with a contract :) | 09:46 |
| RST38h | Not finding much love for this proposal though | 09:48 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:02 |
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| pupnik | ne1 here working with clutter yet? actual demo apps> | 11:53 |
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| timeless_mbp | internally we have one :) | 11:56 |
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| RST38h | pupnik: AFAIK you still can't use clutter in an application because hildon desktop uses it | 11:56 |
| timeless_mbp | hrm | 11:57 |
| timeless_mbp | i thought the resources of interest were GL and not Clutter | 11:58 |
| RST38h | In any case, clutter appears to be an attempt to implement Flash graphics model with GObject-based API and OpenGL backend, so not sure how this stuff can be useful for anything | 11:58 |
| timeless_mbp | RST38h: well... the one app i've seen looks shiny | 11:58 |
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| RST38h | If I need shiny, I will buy an iPhone. | 11:59 |
| tl | when i started maemo sdk image using vmplayer,why i can't connect to internet? | 11:59 |
| timeless_mbp | did you check /sbin/ifconfig ? | 12:00 |
| tl | i can't ping a familar url. | 12:00 |
| tl | no | 12:00 |
| tl | i don't know how to configure it. | 12:00 |
| tl | check what? | 12:00 |
| pupnik | this is a googlable problem | 12:01 |
| pupnik | is this the resolv.conf problem? | 12:01 |
| tl | i don't know. | 12:01 |
| pupnik | try a plain-jane linux or windows vmware image | 12:02 |
| pupnik | to test if your vmplayer networking setup is functional | 12:02 |
| pupnik | if that works, then the problem is narrowed down to the sdk | 12:02 |
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| tl | you mean i must try a windows image at fist | 12:02 |
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| tl | Now i have no windows image. | 12:03 |
| tl | maybe i should search using google. | 12:03 |
| qwerty12_N810 | He said "linux or windows". | 12:03 |
| pupnik | that was just one suggestion | 12:04 |
| RST38h | heya qwerty | 12:05 |
| tl | yeah | 12:05 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | Hey RST38h | 12:05 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Also, by any chance, is the program using libconic or is this your generic app? | 12:05 |
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| tl | i can't search using google,because i am not using static address. | 12:10 |
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| MerkurAlex | does anyone know if "ubuntu_9.04_n8x0-2.2_rootfs.tgz" got hosted somewhere else since maemobox went down? | 13:01 |
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| timeless_mbp | andre__: ping | 13:08 |
| andre__ | timeless_mbp, pong | 13:08 |
| timeless_mbp | i mean installable | 13:08 |
| timeless_mbp | did you try both? | 13:08 |
| timeless_mbp | oh fun | 13:09 |
| andre__ | yeah, i tried both. | 13:09 |
| andre__ | didn't find it | 13:09 |
| MerkurAlex | did anyone see this yet? http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/05/25/nokia-n900-rover-tablet-gets-pictured-specd/ | 13:10 |
| timeless_mbp | andre__: hrm | 13:11 |
| timeless_mbp | go to application manager's log | 13:11 |
| timeless_mbp | does it show that it's reading my package list? | 13:11 |
| till- | MerkurAlex yea, quite old :) | 13:12 |
| MerkurAlex | haha i have been so out of the maemo group lately | 13:12 |
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| MerkurAlex | I am a bit disappointed... i like the phone addition but its so... not IT-ish | 13:13 |
| xnt14 | MerkurAlex, yeah, b-man has it but he is not here atm :/ | 13:13 |
| till- | i want a xenon flash AND a video-led | 13:13 |
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| xnt14 | Im not sure if he uploaded it to his domain | 13:13 |
| MerkurAlex | xnt14, ahh okay thanks | 13:13 |
| xnt14 | ill check | 13:13 |
| andre__ | timeless_mbp, no, does not show | 13:13 |
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| xnt14 | I'm giving him hosting so I can give you a link :) | 13:13 |
| xnt14 | nope he doesn't have it up | 13:14 |
| MerkurAlex | xnt14, cool! i was gonna offer if he didn't get new hosting :) | 13:15 |
| xnt14 | :) | 13:15 |
| MerkurAlex | i am interested in seeing how ubuntu runs | 13:15 |
| MerkurAlex | plus i am gonna see if i can get blitzmax running or not... | 13:16 |
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| xnt14 | :P | 13:19 |
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| adeus | has anyone used gtk apis from a qt program? | 13:23 |
| timeless_mbp | you don't really want to do that | 13:27 |
| timeless_mbp | mixing event loops is painful | 13:27 |
| timeless_mbp | so is sharing contexts | 13:27 |
| timeless_mbp | it's bad enough trying to get theme engines to cooperate | 13:27 |
| timeless_mbp | (they typically insist on crashing) | 13:27 |
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| lbt | adeus: gtk or glib? | 13:27 |
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| adeus | lbt, well right now I'm just trying to include gtk.h | 13:32 |
| RST38h | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/03/bulgarian_airbags/ | 13:32 |
| lbt | why? | 13:32 |
| RST38h | hmmm | 13:32 |
| lbt | 2006? | 13:33 |
| adeus | there's a api that I need to use | 13:33 |
| adeus | and it includes gtk.h | 13:33 |
| lbt | no? really? | 13:33 |
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| lbt | which one :) | 13:33 |
| adeus | <libosso-abook/osso-abook.h> | 13:33 |
| lbt | is that a dbus interface wrapper? | 13:34 |
| adeus | Description: Library to access addressbook and presence information | 13:34 |
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| lbt | you'll have a world of pain... | 13:36 |
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| lbt | hmm http://test.maemo.org/ | 13:37 |
| adeus | well any ideas how I access the addressbook from qt? | 13:37 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: ^^^ something growing in the fridge? | 13:37 |
| adeus | other than the berkeley db directly | 13:37 |
| adeus | which sounds even more painful | 13:38 |
| X-Fade | lbt: Yeah, just a test server. | 13:38 |
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| lbt | adeus: objectives make sense :) | 13:38 |
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| timeless_mbp | adeus: make a process of your own that speaks dbus and uses gtk | 13:38 |
| timeless_mbp | have that one talk to abook | 13:38 |
| timeless_mbp | then talk to it using dbus | 13:38 |
| lbt | timeless_mbp beat me too it :) | 13:38 |
| adeus | sounds like my 1 hour project turns into a week project | 13:39 |
| lbt | exactly what I was thinking | 13:39 |
| aquatix | there's no such thing as a 1-hour project :) | 13:40 |
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| adeus | yes there is if it's just qt :) | 13:40 |
| lbt | adeus: true ;) | 13:41 |
| adeus | I have practically everything else ready | 13:41 |
| aquatix | is qt that limited then? ;) | 13:41 |
| MerkurAlex | anyone know anything about the price range the n900 will be in when it starts selling? | 13:41 |
| lbt | MerkurAlex: yes 0 < price < $100000000000 | 13:41 |
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| MerkurAlex | lol.... | 13:42 |
| lbt | (that is US $ btw) | 13:42 |
| adeus | not zimbabwean dollars? | 13:42 |
| lbt | you'll be lucky | 13:42 |
| VDVsx | A addressbook library depending on GTK o_0, strange decision :P | 13:42 |
| lbt | VDVsx: yes... bug report.... no dbus API | 13:42 |
| lbt | how do I do numbered bullets on the wiki | 13:43 |
| lbt | stupid wiki | 13:43 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | lbt: # | 13:44 |
| VDVsx | lbt, # | 13:44 |
| sarower | Daniel: how i can add more c files in the makefile to compile? where i have to give the input? | 13:44 |
| lbt | mutter... tried 1. 1 thanks guys | 13:44 |
| aquatix | lbt: # | 13:44 |
| aquatix | ;) | 13:44 |
| VDVsx | adeus, this is a new library (Fremantle) or a diablo one ? | 13:45 |
| sarower | if you want the makefile to see i can provide it to you! | 13:45 |
| sarower | Daniel! | 13:45 |
| qwerty12_N810 | lbt: The General taught me the existence of the Wikipedia Cheatsheet ;) | 13:45 |
| lbt | qwerty12_N810: where ? | 13:45 |
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| lbt | should be linked to under the edit box.... X-Fade.... :) | 13:45 |
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| adeus | diablo | 13:46 |
| lbt | oh, it is <blush> | 13:46 |
| adeus | fremantle has a new calendar iirc | 13:46 |
| adeus | or the entire pim | 13:46 |
| sarower | or any other ? | 13:47 |
| lbt | It's closed though isn't it? | 13:47 |
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| lbt | sarower: pastebin it | 13:47 |
| VDVsx | adeus, ok, then nobody will fix it :P | 13:47 |
| qwerty12_N810 | *grin* | 13:48 |
| adeus | yeah probably closed source | 13:48 |
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| sarower | lbt: not understood | 13:49 |
| lbt | do a pastebin of your makefile | 13:49 |
| adeus | rule number one for ldap, don't use it | 13:49 |
| lbt | why? | 13:50 |
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| adeus | well just just a huge pile of pain :) | 13:51 |
| VDVsx | adeus, dunno if you like python, but you also have python-abook, should be less painful than the C alternative :P | 13:52 |
| adeus | then I would need to bind python to my qt | 13:53 |
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| sarower | lbt: you want to see the makefile? | 13:53 |
| lbt | wrap dbus around python | 13:54 |
| VDVsx | lbt, yeah, that was my idea ;) | 13:55 |
| lbt | sarower: <sigh> no, I just wanted you to put it in a pastebin for fun? | 13:55 |
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| MerkurAlex | how much are n810's going for on ebay? | 13:56 |
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| sarower | lbt: give me a solution please | 13:57 |
| VDVsx | MerkurAlex, around $200, I guess (new) | 13:57 |
| MerkurAlex | VDVsx, thanks... thinking about selling my n810 to get a n900 possibly... | 13:58 |
| MerkurAlex | when they start selling of course :) | 13:58 |
| lbt | sarower: I am really trying to... put your Makefile in a pastebin (http://pastebin.com/) and I'll look at it... but for goodness sake.... | 13:58 |
| oespirit | qwerty12_N810: ping ? | 13:59 |
| VDVsx | MerkurAlex, in this distant year your n8x0 will have value around $5 | 13:59 |
| VDVsx | just kidding :P | 13:59 |
| qwerty12_N810 | oespirit: pong | 14:00 |
| lbt | yeah, $10 | 14:00 |
| qwerty12_N810 | VDVsx - bringer of doom :P | 14:00 |
| tbf | adeus: doesn't use Qt the glib mainloop? | 14:00 |
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| MerkurAlex | VDVsx, LOL nice :P | 14:00 |
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| tbf | adeus: in that case it should be possible without much problems to access the addressbook via libebook | 14:00 |
| sarower | lbt: i have done it | 14:00 |
| tbf | adeus: but also the stuff in libosso-abook shouldn't cause trouble unless you use widgets and dialogs | 14:01 |
| tbf | adeus: well, and even them i am not sure if there's really much trouble to expect, if Qt really uses the glib main loop | 14:01 |
| lbt | Qt doesn't use the same main loop | 14:02 |
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| adeus | the original probem was that when I try to include that osso header I get compilation errors | 14:02 |
| tbf | lbt: adeus: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2006/02/24/qt-and-glib/ | 14:02 |
| danielwilms | sarower: next time use my user name, then I see when you write something to me :) and btw are you sure that you want to build the package for fremantle?? | 14:02 |
| tbf | adeus: maybe the libosso-abook headers are not C++ friendly | 14:02 |
| sarower | yes.... | 14:03 |
| RST38h | tbf: unholy marriage! | 14:03 |
| tbf | adeus: guess you should report this at bugzilla.maemo.org | 14:03 |
| sarower | danielwilms: I am interested for freemntle | 14:03 |
| tbf | RST38h: still better than accessing the addressbook via berkley db or the dbus API | 14:03 |
| adeus | yeah maybe | 14:03 |
| lbt | tbf: thanks ... didn't know that | 14:03 |
| tbf | RST38h: neither the DBus API nor the db format are documented | 14:03 |
| adeus | wrapping with extern "c" doesn't help | 14:03 |
| RST38h | tbf: now, I meant qt running inside gtk loop :) | 14:04 |
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| lbt | sarower: when you do a pastebin you need to post the url.... danielwilms I think I'll leave this to you | 14:05 |
| sarower | lbt: http://pastebin.com/md39c7a1 | 14:06 |
| tbf | RST38h: the glib event loop is quite simple and generic | 14:06 |
| adeus | hmm #include <libebook/e-book.h> was successfull | 14:06 |
| sarower | sorry lbt! | 14:06 |
| adeus | maybe that'll lead to win | 14:06 |
| tbf | RST38h: so there is no much evil about integrating Qt and this event loop | 14:06 |
| tbf | RST38h: unless you want to imply that Qt's main loop is complete mess | 14:06 |
| tbf | RST38h: which i cannot judge | 14:06 |
| RST38h | Dunno, never been to Qt main loop | 14:06 |
| danielwilms | lbt: hmmm...thanks? :D | 14:07 |
| lbt | np | 14:07 |
| danielwilms | i believe you :) | 14:09 |
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| sarower | RST38h: How i can add more .c files in your makefile that you sent to me yesterday? | 14:12 |
| sarower | RST38h: where i have to give the file name? | 14:12 |
| RST38h | sarower: by opening makefile in the text editor | 14:12 |
| RST38h | sarower: www.google.com, enter "makefiles howto" and click "Search" | 14:12 |
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| sarower | RST38h: Ok. thank you for your information! | 14:13 |
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| sarower | lbt: saw my file? | 14:20 |
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| lbt | sarower: it's driven by TARGET=hello-world-home.so and, RST38h, to be fair, that's not a trivial makefile to give to a noobie | 14:24 |
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| sarower | lbt: That is i can not add other .c files here? | 14:27 |
| tl | The maemo sdk image has installed Xephyr,why i can't start? | 14:27 |
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| tl | The error is lack of libfontenv.so.1 | 14:28 |
| sarower | lbt: hello-world-home.so will be made by a single .c file? | 14:28 |
| lbt | sarower: yes | 14:29 |
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| sarower | lbt: oh my god! then what is the way? | 14:29 |
| sarower | that i want! | 14:29 |
| lbt | sarower: can you create a hello_world program in C using a makefile? | 14:30 |
| tl | someone come accross the similar situation? | 14:31 |
| tl | i can't start Xephyr.help | 14:31 |
| sarower | lbt: yah here it is. that i have already created! | 14:31 |
| lbt | so add another c file to that .... use google to sort out how | 14:31 |
| sarower | oh ok........ | 14:32 |
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| RST38h | lbt: it isn't? | 14:55 |
| * RST38h checks | 14:55 | |
| RST38h | lbt: Sorry, but it IS a trivial makefile, all he needs to to is add his new .o file name to OBJECTS= | 14:57 |
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| lbt | RST38h: what line is OBJECTS= on then | 15:02 |
| RST38h | lbt: open his makefile and search for word OBJECTS, it is in the first 5 lines of the file | 15:03 |
| lbt | http://pastebin.com/md39c7a1 | 15:04 |
| lbt | I can believe PEBKAC though :) | 15:05 |
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| RST38h | lbt: This is not the same Makefile I gave him | 15:06 |
| lbt | I fully believe you <grin> | 15:06 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | RST38h: is it that conky one? | 15:06 |
| RST38h | lbt: Next time he comes and starts pestering you, remind him that he promised me something | 15:06 |
| RST38h | qwerty: yea | 15:06 |
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| lbt | oh, it was him | 15:07 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | Hah, quite a difference... | 15:07 |
| RST38h | lbt: I gave him that example in exchange for a promise to stop buggering people with trivial questions | 15:07 |
| lbt | yeah... good | 15:07 |
| lbt | I don't mind helping noobies... but they need to show *some* initiative :) | 15:08 |
| lbt | got to admit "pastebin it".... "OK, done that" almost had me on the floor..... | 15:08 |
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| RST38h | lbt: being newbie is not a problem here | 15:09 |
| adeus | hmh the osso API uses int/enum operations that c++ disallows | 15:10 |
| adeus | I'm starting to consider the dbus approach.. | 15:11 |
| lbt | adeus: if you do then I'd like to keep an eye on it :) | 15:11 |
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| RST38h | adeus: extern "C" { } does not help either? | 15:13 |
| adeus | nope | 15:13 |
| * RST38h thanks the Tentacled One for sending the thunderstorm | 15:13 | |
| adeus | I think that mostly effects the linker | 15:13 |
| RST38h | adeus: Yea, it affects the name mangling | 15:13 |
| RST38h | could you give an example of the problem you are having? | 15:14 |
| adeus | the osso addressbook api uses enum/int operations | 15:14 |
| adeus | which the c++ compiler refuses to do | 15:14 |
| RST38h | Show an example | 15:15 |
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| RST38h | "Cheap, Thin Laptops Suffering From Cheapness, Thinness" | 15:16 |
| adeus | code or the errror? | 15:16 |
| * RST38h cackles evilly seeing Lenovo and Dell mentioned | 15:16 | |
| lbt | adeus: both | 15:16 |
| RST38h | adeus: piece of code that causes the error and the error message | 15:16 |
| lbt | mmm modest is building... | 15:16 |
| RST38h | lbt: You aren't fixing Modest to make it useful, are you? | 15:17 |
| qwerty12_N810 | That's a good thing? :) | 15:17 |
| lbt | meh, it's the fremantle version | 15:17 |
| RST38h | lbt: Can we hope for an unnoficial Diablo version update? =) | 15:18 |
| RST38h | Because right now it is one big cluster fuck | 15:18 |
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| lbt | Probably not | 15:18 |
| RST38h | Pleeeease? | 15:18 |
| lbt | well, it depends on all the new gtk stuff | 15:18 |
| lbt | and installing that on Diablo... | 15:19 |
| X-Fade | Modest should build on diablo too. | 15:19 |
| lbt | you think? | 15:19 |
| RST38h | lbt: Ok, I will clarify it | 15:19 |
| X-Fade | As I see diablo build fixes commits there regularly. | 15:19 |
| RST38h | lbt: What we need is a bugfixed Camel | 15:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp_, ping? | 15:19 |
| RST38h | Modest can probably live as it is | 15:19 |
| * lbt hasn't paid huge attention to Diablo stuff :) | 15:19 | |
| RST38h | lbt: You should have, if you are working on Modest, unless you want to leave it non-functional in Fremantle of course | 15:20 |
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| lbt | X-Fade: yes, thinking about it there were control-diablo in debian/ | 15:20 |
| AndrewFBlack | Hello | 15:20 |
| RST38h | hello Andrew | 15:20 |
| AndrewFBlack | I can't beleave the N8x0 are not listed on gdgt.com yet | 15:21 |
| lbt | RST38h: atm I'm getting it to compile for Mer | 15:21 |
| AndrewFBlack | hey RST38h | 15:21 |
| RST38h | lbt: Ah | 15:21 |
| lbt | then I'll look at it and see what it's like | 15:21 |
| lbt | FWIW: http://gitorious.org/mer/modest | 15:21 |
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| lbt | although if it's supporting diablo internally then there's no real need | 15:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ping timeout. | 15:22 |
| * GeneralAntilles goes to get wisdom teeth removed. | 15:22 | |
| X-Fade | GeneralAntilles: Ouch, good luck! | 15:23 |
| RST38h | Argh | 15:23 |
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| adeus | #include <libosso-abook/osso-abook.h> | 15:30 |
| adeus | int main() { return 0; } | 15:30 |
| adeus | g++ `pkg-config --cflags osso-addressbook-1.0` `pkg-config --libs osso-addressbook-1.0` book.c -o book | 15:30 |
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| adeus | that causes | 15:34 |
| adeus | usr/include/osso-addressbook-1.0/libosso-abook/osso-abook-caps.h: In function `OssoABookCapsFlags osso_abook_caps_from_account_type(OssoABookAccountTypeFlags)': | 15:34 |
| adeus | /usr/include/osso-addressbook-1.0/libosso-abook/osso-abook-caps.h:76: error: invalid conversion from `int' to `OssoABookCapsFlags' | 15:34 |
| adeus | which is correct as it's not allowed in c++.. | 15:34 |
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| timeless_mbp_ | GeneralAntilles: pong | 15:35 |
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| b-man16 | hello | 15:37 |
| xnt14 | hi | 15:37 |
| timeless_mbp | adeus: you probably need | 15:38 |
| timeless_mbp | extern "C" { | 15:38 |
| RST38h | adeus: Are you calling osso_abook_caps_from_account_type()? | 15:38 |
| timeless_mbp | #include ... | 15:38 |
| timeless_mbp | } | 15:38 |
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| adeus | nope | 15:38 |
| adeus | no effect | 15:39 |
| adeus | but.. | 15:39 |
| timeless_mbp | adeus: system headers are typically very C ish | 15:39 |
| timeless_mbp | adeus: also, you probably need to #include something else :) | 15:39 |
| adeus | is there an app in maemo that I can query the services available via dbuss? | 15:39 |
| adeus | that was just a simplified example | 15:39 |
| timeless_mbp | adeus: is this diablo? | 15:39 |
| adeus | yes | 15:39 |
| RST38h | adeus: You are going to use DBus only because you can't resolve a type cast problem? =) | 15:39 |
| adeus | no | 15:39 |
| adeus | but I need that as well | 15:40 |
| RST38h | ah | 15:40 |
| adeus | and if the contacts are already available via it, it solves also that problem :) | 15:40 |
| timeless_mbp | there's dbus-send-query or something | 15:40 |
| * timeless_mbp srhugs | 15:40 | |
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| andrefelipe | Hi, I am trying to share the maemo device (N810 latest diablo) internet with a host PC through USB or bluetooth. I loaded the iptable_nat kernel modules on maemo device and i also configured ip and route on both maemo device and host PC but i can not get internet shared from maemo device to host PC (from host PC to maemo device works fine). Anybody got internet shared from maemo device to host PC though USB or bluetooh? | 16:00 |
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| adeus | ues | 16:03 |
| adeus | yes | 16:03 |
| andrefelipe | adeus: what is the trick :)? | 16:04 |
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| andrefelipe | to get it working? | 16:04 |
| adeus | is the usb0 network up between the devices? | 16:05 |
| adeus | device-pc that is | 16:05 |
| andrefelipe | yes | 16:05 |
| andrefelipe | and i can ping | 16:06 |
| andrefelipe | from both sides | 16:06 |
| adeus | you've edited the necessary rows to your host interfaces file? | 16:06 |
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| andrefelipe | do you mean iptable rules? | 16:08 |
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| adeus | yes mainly those | 16:08 |
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| andrefelipe | yes i put the iptable masquerade rules on maemo device | 16:09 |
| adeus | nono | 16:09 |
| adeus | nothing on maemo side | 16:09 |
| adeus | i.e. device side | 16:09 |
| adeus | on the device side, just install maemo-control | 16:10 |
| adeus | that adds "usb networking" to the control panel | 16:10 |
| andrefelipe | ok | 16:10 |
| andrefelipe | i do not need tu put the iptable rules and enable ip_forward on maemo device? | 16:11 |
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| adeus | no | 16:12 |
| adeus | that app does everything | 16:12 |
| andrefelipe | huum | 16:12 |
| adeus | and even if it didn't still no | 16:12 |
| adeus | the app is in extras-devel | 16:12 |
| andrefelipe | ok | 16:12 |
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| andrefelipe | on host PC side should i configure something? | 16:13 |
| adeus | yes | 16:13 |
| adeus | or wait | 16:14 |
| adeus | stop! :) | 16:14 |
| adeus | which way are you trying to set it up? :) | 16:14 |
| andrefelipe | the internet is on "maemo device", i am trying to share with my PC | 16:15 |
| adeus | aahhh | 16:15 |
| adeus | so the other way then normally | 16:15 |
| adeus | than | 16:15 |
| adeus | then basically ignore everything I just said | 16:15 |
| andrefelipe | ok :) | 16:16 |
| adeus | and set your device as the gateway on the pc side | 16:16 |
| andrefelipe | route add default gw 192.168.2.15 | 16:16 |
| andrefelipe | i did that | 16:16 |
| adeus | how about "route add default usb0" | 16:17 |
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| andrefelipe | ok i will try that but lets continue step-by-step just make sure that i will follow the correct way | 16:20 |
| andrefelipe | afer set gateway on host PC? | 16:20 |
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| andrefelipe | i mean on maemo device side do i need enable ip_foward and iptable rules correct? | 16:21 |
| andrefelipe | to masquerade | 16:21 |
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| adeus | yes | 16:22 |
| adeus | and that's about it | 16:22 |
| adeus | and on the pc side use the usb0 as the default gateway | 16:22 |
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| andrefelipe | so to enable iptable_nat modules i had to recompile the kernel modules | 16:23 |
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| andrefelipe | and install ipatbles-ext on maemo device | 16:23 |
| andrefelipe | this is the correct way also? | 16:23 |
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| adeus | yes probably | 16:25 |
| adeus | I haven't done it that way | 16:25 |
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| andrefelipe | what was the way you got internet shared from maemo device :) to PC? | 16:26 |
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| andrefelipe | i will try this route to usb0 but if i have no success i can try your way :) | 16:27 |
| adeus | no I understood you original question incorrectly | 16:27 |
| andrefelipe | ah ok | 16:27 |
| adeus | I thought you wanted to share your pc internet connection with the device | 16:27 |
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| adeus | but anyway the instructions for that should do, only in reverse | 16:29 |
| adeus | +the kernel module | 16:29 |
| andrefelipe | yes | 16:29 |
| andrefelipe | i tryed exactly the same configuration (maemo -> PC) and (PC -> maemo) | 16:30 |
| andrefelipe | PC -> maemo works fine | 16:30 |
| andrefelipe | but maemo -> PC does not work | 16:31 |
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| andrefelipe | as i saw in tcpdump on maemo device interfaces (usb0 and wlan0), the masquerading is not working on maemo device | 16:32 |
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| andrefelipe | basically i follow the steps describe by matan on http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=19035 | 16:34 |
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| andrefelipe | to load the kernel modules | 16:34 |
| andrefelipe | also i tryed to recompile the iptable_nat modules instead of using matan's modules | 16:35 |
| andrefelipe | but no success also | 16:35 |
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| andrefelipe | i will try to route usb0 as you sugested | 16:36 |
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| andrefelipe | but if anybody else got internet shared in this way (maemo device -> PC), i will appreciate any tips | 16:38 |
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| johnsq | Hi | 16:44 |
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| pupnik | ad-hoc wifi should be easier to do | 17:04 |
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| johnsq | Luke-Jr: http://www.goron.de/~johns/n810/cx3110x_notfix.patch | 17:13 |
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| johnsq | someone in charge of the cx3110x mer packet? he should use the same patch. | 17:14 |
| qwerty12_N810 | johnsq: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2504 | 17:15 |
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| johnsq | I found two :) | 17:15 |
| qwerty12_N810 | :P | 17:16 |
| johnsq | no two new | 17:16 |
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| amr | does rtcomm work for msn again yet? | 17:17 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | andre__: I don't have a Fremantle SDK available for me to use. Also = is used to circumvent yet another one of App Manager's borken "features" - using = will force App Manager (in Diablo) to update that dependency too | 17:18 |
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| andre__ | qwerty12_N810, hmm. want to file a bug anyway? we could still complain about the totally meaningless error :) | 17:22 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | andre__: Yes, please :) | 17:25 |
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| andre__ | qwerty12_N810, no, i want to outsource that to you ;-) | 17:25 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Grr | 17:26 |
| andre__ | ehehe | 17:26 |
| qwerty12_N810 | I have an aversion to bugzilla - the interface to file new bugs sends a shiver down me spine | 17:26 |
| andre__ | okay, for some virtual icecream i can also do it myself :) | 17:26 |
| qwerty12_N810 | infobot: give andre the best tub of icecream he has | 17:27 |
| * infobot gives the best tub of icecream he has to andre | 17:27 | |
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| nomis | qwerty12_N810: try using trac for a change. Then you'll love bugzilla... :-) | 17:28 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | Hehe | 17:28 |
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| Macer | poor artigo | 17:29 |
| Macer | load averages: 3.61, 3.54, 3.09 | 17:29 |
| Macer | want to see if i can get it into the 10s | 17:29 |
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| * xnt14 tried out codeigniter's encryption class | 17:41 | |
| xnt14 | *tries | 17:41 |
| xnt14 | :P | 17:41 |
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| GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, drugs have annihilated my brain. Forgot what I wanted. | 17:56 |
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| timeless_mbp | :( | 18:00 |
| slonopotamus | you wanted more drugs? :P | 18:01 |
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| RST38h | General: Back with us so fast? =) | 18:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | RST38h, mostly | 18:09 |
| RST38h | heh | 18:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | I've currently got two ice packs strapped to my head. | 18:09 |
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| RST38h | shit. condolences. | 18:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | Waiting to see how I feel after the local wears off. | 18:10 |
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| amr | can i boot from the internal mmc on an n810? | 18:15 |
| amr | or, is it a good ide? | 18:15 |
| amr | idea* | 18:16 |
| Jucato | amr: http://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card | 18:17 |
| amr | that told me HOW to do it | 18:18 |
| amr | which i already had the link for | 18:18 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | Considering it's telling you HOW it's done; I'd gather the can part would be automatically answered, now? | 18:19 |
| qwerty12_N810 | -w | 18:19 |
| Jucato | you asked "can I?", so yes, you can (as proved by the link). it also lists why you might want to. so yes, it may be a good idea (if it answers your needs) | 18:19 |
| amr | ok, see the second part of my question | 18:19 |
| lbt | amr it's a bad idea | 18:19 |
| amr | *sigh* | 18:20 |
| lbt | all those docs... they're just trying to fool you. | 18:20 |
| lbt | Everyone who tried it... their tablets died | 18:20 |
| lbt | sorry to break it to you :( | 18:20 |
| amr | thank you for your humour :) | 18:20 |
| * lbt bows and takes applause | 18:21 | |
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| qwerty12_N810 | pH5: Many thanks for your op_mode patch BTW | 18:26 |
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| pH5 | qwerty12_N810: I'm glad you like it :) | 18:30 |
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| RST38h | Ehehehe...Mono apps to be potentially added to GNOME 3.0 | 18:40 |
| RST38h | Some people just never learn. | 18:41 |
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| johnsq | it was too fast, they need to reduce the speed. | 18:42 |
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| Luke-Jr_ | RST38h: actually, that's totally in line with GNOME's policies | 18:57 |
| Luke-Jr_ | they seem to have a goal to include every language in existence | 18:57 |
| RST38h | You mean, make it fatter and slower with each release? | 18:57 |
| RST38h | Have they accounted Prolog and LISP already? =) | 18:57 |
| Luke-Jr_ | dunno | 18:57 |
| Luke-Jr_ | someone needs to make a nice Qt DE | 18:58 |
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| thux | but is kde any faster or lighter than gnome? | 19:00 |
| RST38h | no. | 19:00 |
| thopiekar | hey guys.. | 19:01 |
| RST38h | KDE loses from the fact that Qt is much easier to program in than GTK | 19:01 |
| RST38h | So KDE folks feel constantly inclined to add more and more and more crap | 19:01 |
| thopiekar | I need a newer version of scons for my sb1 + maemo4.1... | 19:01 |
| RST38h | It is FUN, you see? :) | 19:01 |
| thux | hehe | 19:02 |
| thopiekar | If I want to build a app it says that it can't find the qt4 module.. | 19:02 |
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| thopiekar | http://pastebin.com/d622d7f4e | 19:05 |
| thopiekar | any suggestions? | 19:06 |
| thopiekar | maybe I just have to set up python2.5 as the default for "python" [$ which python] so scons could find it there.. | 19:08 |
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| thopiekar | or is scons searching for another module.. | 19:08 |
| thopiekar | ? | 19:08 |
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| johnsq | thopiekar: have you python qt4 installed? | 19:09 |
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| thopiekar | yes | 19:10 |
| johnsq | than i don't know, looks like scons is searching qt4 for python. | 19:11 |
| thopiekar | ok I have to leave no.. will be back in about 2 hours.. | 19:11 |
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| thopiekar | johnsq: right but python in scratchbox1 is overwritten by it's own (python2.3)! | 19:12 |
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| thopiekar | so I would have to make python2.5 as the default one.. | 19:12 |
| thopiekar | ok see you later.. | 19:12 |
| johnsq | thopiekar: an you need PyQt4 | 19:13 |
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| amr | http://wiki.maemo.org/Partitioning_a_flash_card | 19:39 |
| amr | when doing this, what is the purpose of the 480MB partition? | 19:39 |
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| johnsq | one for winshit access and one to use | 19:42 |
| amr | also, http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=3031&stc=1&d=1232474788 - anyone know the name of that battery applet? | 19:42 |
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| amr | oh, for files and stuff? | 19:42 |
| qwerty12_N810 | advanced-power (the applet) | 19:43 |
| johnsq | amr: you see this as external drive yes, but you can also make one linux and use ext2fs for winshit. | 19:43 |
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| amr | qwerty12_N810, thanks | 19:43 |
| amr | johnsq, yeah i dont really care about windows being able to read | 19:43 |
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| amr | windows can read ext2fs with that driver anway | 19:44 |
| amr | anyway | 19:44 |
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| b0unc3 | is it possible that my tablet won't boot because there is no space left on device ? | 19:49 |
| amr | i had that, kinda | 19:49 |
| amr | it would boot, but i couldnt do ANYTHING | 19:49 |
| b0unc3 | same here | 19:49 |
| amr | i didnt have anything on there of interest so i just reflashd | 19:49 |
| amr | i couldn't even rm things | 19:49 |
| amr | so i think im going to boot from the internal card | 19:50 |
| b0unc3 | good idea | 19:50 |
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| lbt | amr: that FAT partition is expected by some of the Diablo software IIRC ... and you may get problems if it isn't there | 19:51 |
| amr | oh | 19:52 |
| amr | hms, i guess ill have to use it | 19:52 |
| amr | im quite tempted to install ubuntu heh | 19:52 |
| amr | just for giggles | 19:52 |
| lbt | unless you're desperate not to have FAT I'd stay on the safe side | 19:53 |
| lbt | Well, Mer is ubuntu | 19:53 |
| amr | does everything work in mer? | 19:55 |
| lbt | heh | 19:55 |
| lbt | no | 19:55 |
| lbt | Mer is still in development.... | 19:56 |
| lbt | but it's saner than trying to install Ubuntu from scratch | 19:56 |
| amr | heh | 19:56 |
| lbt | and once you have Mer you can apt-get install anything (-ish) from Jaunty | 19:56 |
| amr | was just reading over the slides from a presentation | 19:56 |
| amr | oh nice | 19:56 |
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| lbt | haven't I pointed you at http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer yet? | 19:58 |
| amr | i had heard OF mer | 19:58 |
| amr | just not really anything specific | 19:58 |
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| lbt | Diablo is end-of-life, no more upgrades (though it's stable and not *that* buggy).. so Mer is where the future lies | 19:59 |
| amr | ohh | 19:59 |
| amr | has it actually been announced it has reached its end-of-life? | 20:00 |
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| amr | i've only had this n810 for a few months :p | 20:00 |
| lbt | I think so. More "there are no more planned releases" type of thing | 20:00 |
| amr | ah | 20:00 |
| amr | hrm | 20:00 |
| amr | cant umount mmc2 | 20:00 |
| lbt | I tend to get the gist of what's happening rather than the quotes | 20:01 |
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| amr | why cant i umount mmc2? | 20:26 |
| qwerty12_N810 | Try the usual: lsof /media/mmc2/ or swapoff /media/mmc2/.swap | 20:27 |
| amr | ah | 20:28 |
| amr | vm | 20:28 |
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| amr | im a moron | 20:28 |
| amr | ty | 20:28 |
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| RST38h | Things got really slow in the Maemo land lately... | 20:31 |
| RST38h | With latest OpenTTD the only means of entertainment. | 20:31 |
| amr | emulators! | 20:32 |
| amr | i just completed super mario 1 | 20:32 |
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| amr | hm | 20:35 |
| RST38h | What we all need is another leaked shot of N9xx :) | 20:36 |
| amr | heh | 20:37 |
| amr | sfdisk: unrecognized input: 1,15000,6 | 20:37 |
| amr | oh moron | 20:37 |
| amr | nvm | 20:37 |
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| RST38h | And it has to be maimed in some outrageous way to cause another heated discussion. Given what we already know (small screen, no dpad, crippled keyboard), the only feature I can think of is to make it pink. | 20:37 |
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| amr | insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/mbcache.ko | 20:46 |
| amr | insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ext2.ko | 20:46 |
| amr | these both produce errors. first one says "File exists (-1): File Exists" | 20:46 |
| amr | second reports "No such file or directory" | 20:46 |
| amr | it looks at /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/ex2.ko | 20:47 |
| RST38h | Hehe, FDA considers banning Vicodine. | 20:47 |
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| Luke-Jr | ban FDA | 20:49 |
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| RST38h | Why? It does its best to get Americans off crappy mood changing recreational drugs =) | 20:54 |
| Luke-Jr | on* | 20:54 |
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| RST38h | BTW, I haven't kept track, do they still put active kids on Ritalin or is it out of fashion now? | 20:55 |
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| Luke-Jr | RST38h: Ritalin or worse | 20:57 |
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| Luke-Jr | and not just kids | 20:57 |
| Luke-Jr | adults they disagree with | 20:57 |
| Luke-Jr | or are too outspoken | 20:58 |
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| RST38h | Luke: Can't legally force an adult take this stuff | 21:00 |
| RST38h | Luke: Much easier with children though | 21:00 |
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| Luke-Jr | RST38h: maybe not as the laws are written, but in practical terms they can and do | 21:12 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: just take them by force, get them drugged up enough, and extract a "confession" | 21:13 |
| RST38h | Luke: That probably does not happen too often or we would know | 21:13 |
| RST38h | Kinda difficult to keep hidden | 21:13 |
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| Luke-Jr | RST38h: sealed records ;) | 21:14 |
| Luke-Jr | plsu, the victim is kept drugged up of course | 21:14 |
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| RST38h | Yea, and they release a clone, or a cyborg, that behaves just like the real guy but is ready to strike at humanity as soon as he is instructed by the CNN =) | 21:15 |
| amr | i have completely forgotten why i wanted to boot from the sd card | 21:16 |
| RST38h | maybe you wanted to try mer? | 21:16 |
| amr | oh yes thats it! | 21:16 |
| amr | https://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card | 21:16 |
| amr | well ive completely followed all of this | 21:17 |
| amr | but i assume that just copies the current set up across | 21:17 |
| amr | i havent actually booted it yet! | 21:18 |
| amr | oh what the hell | 21:18 |
| amr | pressing and holding menu didn't do anything | 21:18 |
| amr | its still booting from flash | 21:18 |
| amr | tres annoying | 21:19 |
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| amr | anyone handy with the bootloader? | 21:21 |
| amr | the 'press menu' messasge shows up for a second | 21:21 |
| amr | then it just goes straight into "booting from flash" | 21:21 |
| amr | i assume if i set the default boot device to mmc2, and it doesn't work | 21:23 |
| amr | i can just reflash? | 21:23 |
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| RST38h | When I first saw this: http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/07/HT1871_1.jpg I thought it was a joke. But apparently it is not... | 21:30 |
| Luke-Jr | [13:15:20] <RST38h> Yea, and they release a clone, or a cyborg, that behaves just like the real guy but is ready to strike at humanity as soon as he is instructed by the CNN =) | 21:31 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: is that sarcasm? -.- | 21:31 |
| RST38h | Luke: guess =) | 21:31 |
| Luke-Jr | it's not funny. | 21:31 |
| mavhc | RST38h: at least it doesn't just not boot, like n810 did before upgrade | 21:31 |
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| RST38h | mavhc: The famous fridge bug? =) | 21:31 |
| mavhc | happend to me | 21:31 |
| RST38h | I missed it, fortunately | 21:32 |
| mavhc | I only turned it off to upgrade to the software upgradable firmware | 21:32 |
| mavhc | day 2 of owning it, rather annoyed | 21:32 |
| RST38h | mavhc: actually a bit earlier, they released the boot prep fix in the update preceding the diablo | 21:32 |
| mavhc | what was the actual cause? | 21:33 |
| RST38h | Had something to do with clocks being initialized wrong | 21:33 |
| mavhc | and why did cold fix it? | 21:33 |
| RST38h | The hardware race condition did not occur when hw was cold | 21:33 |
| RST38h | I know it sounds funny, but I have to deal with similar problems on the SigmaTel chip | 21:33 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: I've seen it personally, and have heard many stories of similar. | 21:34 |
| RST38h | Changing system clocks and voltages is very very sensitive | 21:34 |
| RST38h | Luke: I once have seen a woman saying that KGB is brain-controlling her over GSM network | 21:34 |
| RST38h | Luke: So, nothing unusual there =) | 21:35 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: you've witnessed it? | 21:35 |
| RST38h | Luke: The control? No. The woman? Yes. | 21:36 |
| Luke-Jr | ok then, so you haven't witnessed it really | 21:37 |
| Luke-Jr | just a fake victim testimony | 21:37 |
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| Luke-Jr | (since obviously a brain-controlled woman wouldn't be able to easily relate it) | 21:37 |
| RST38h | Luke: Have you witnessed evil feds shooting their victim with drugs? | 21:38 |
| Luke-Jr | yes. | 21:38 |
| RST38h | What were you doing at that time? =) | 21:38 |
| Luke-Jr | technically, I am an unwilling accomplice | 21:38 |
| RST38h | In what role? | 21:39 |
| Luke-Jr | I force her to continue taking the drugs daily. | 21:39 |
| Luke-Jr | and/or report her if she stops. | 21:39 |
| RST38h | But how do you know that she was first put on drugs by the feds? | 21:40 |
| Luke-Jr | I witnessed that as well. | 21:40 |
| Luke-Jr | though not "the feds" literally, more like "the state" | 21:40 |
| RST38h | what was the initial reason? | 21:40 |
| Luke-Jr | the feds just fund it | 21:40 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: the real reason? I don't know for sure. | 21:41 |
| RST38h | Luke: Well, if it were suicide attempt or some other psychotic behavior, then it was justified | 21:41 |
| Luke-Jr | after they got her drugged up sufficiently, the "confession" extracted was an intent to murder our children, justifying sealed records | 21:41 |
| RST38h | Luke: Ah, really? | 21:42 |
| RST38h | Hmmm | 21:42 |
| RST38h | How similar things develop in different countries... | 21:42 |
| RST38h | Luke: Actually, I can't and won't judge it either way, maybe they had grounds for that maybe not | 21:44 |
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| thopiekar | hi.. it'S me again :P | 21:45 |
| thopiekar | back to scons - | 21:45 |
| thopiekar | scratchbox's scons' version is: v0.96.1.D001, 2004/08/23 09:55:29, by knight on casablanca | 21:46 |
| thopiekar | which is defitily outdated... | 21:46 |
| thopiekar | is there a way to get a newer version? | 21:46 |
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| RST38h | You can compile a newer one | 21:47 |
| RST38h | Aside from that, I do not think there is a newer package available: can't find it online | 21:48 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: they didn't | 21:51 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: and there are never any grounds for it | 21:52 |
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| RST38h | Luke: Ok, what was the original reason? | 21:52 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: people have rights | 21:52 |
| thopiekar | :| i'm really tried of making these workarounds.. like with my portaudio19-packages, I take the most time to get things working in this dev-kit because of outdated packages.. when making my static portaudio-packages it was libasound : | | 21:52 |
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| Luke-Jr | RST38h: best i can tell, the original reason was easy money | 21:52 |
| RST38h | Luke: Just asking because I know of a similar case where a mother "apparently" let her daughter fall from the stairs | 21:52 |
| Luke-Jr | there was an actual incident there, at least | 21:53 |
| Luke-Jr | instead of mere allegations of intent, that were only "substatated" by drugging | 21:53 |
| RST38h | Luke: And in your case there wasn't? | 21:53 |
| Luke-Jr | no | 21:53 |
| RST38h | How did they open the case anyway? | 21:53 |
| Luke-Jr | the official case opening was after they got the drugged "confession" | 21:54 |
| RST38h | I really do not understand | 21:54 |
| Luke-Jr | the original drugging was entirely based on a hearsay allegation of some vague future intent | 21:55 |
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| Luke-Jr | there was no official case opened until after they drugged her to get a "confession" | 21:55 |
| RST38h | Luke: this is some really weird shit | 21:55 |
| Luke-Jr | then they used that "confession" as the basis | 21:55 |
| Luke-Jr | no crap, totally illegal by the book I'm sure | 21:55 |
| Luke-Jr | but there's nothing we can do | 21:56 |
| RST38h | Luke: Even in .RU they can't just pick you off the street, drug you, and get a confession | 21:56 |
| RST38h | Luke: They always need some initial reason for that | 21:56 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: we were in our home | 21:56 |
| RST38h | Luke: It is much, MUCH harder in the US | 21:56 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: like I said, as the law is written, they DO need some reason | 21:56 |
| Luke-Jr | but they can ignore the law without problems | 21:56 |
| RST38h | Ok, then why don't you sue them? | 21:57 |
| Luke-Jr | they will use it against us | 21:57 |
| Luke-Jr | the court automatically considers the state employees "credible" and the accused "un-credible" | 21:57 |
| Luke-Jr | our word against theirs, we lose | 21:57 |
| RST38h | Bullshit. | 21:57 |
| RST38h | Talk to a lawyer. | 21:57 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: that's what the lawyer told me | 21:58 |
| RST38h | Talk to a decent lawyer. | 21:58 |
| Luke-Jr | does that exist? :/ | 21:58 |
| RST38h | Dunno, probably, inside the limited query parameters that you need | 21:58 |
| Luke-Jr | even the one I paid wants to remain on good terms with the judge and prosecutor | 21:59 |
| RST38h | My guess is that you are ommitting some part of the story though | 21:59 |
| RST38h | Sue in a different state. | 21:59 |
| Luke-Jr | you can do that? | 21:59 |
| RST38h | Ask a lawyer. | 21:59 |
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| RST38h | There are federal courts too | 22:00 |
| Luke-Jr | my top priority right now is to get us out of the state. maybe then I can worry about counter-suing over the violations. | 22:00 |
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| amr | wish my uni email would sync faster | 22:09 |
| amr | stupid imap | 22:09 |
| * thopiekar has breaked apt-get in sb1 by installing python-central and trying to install scons , which package was compiled in sb1, too.. | 22:12 | |
| amr | hmm.. its like te internet isnt responding on my tablet | 22:12 |
| amr | im connected, i can load google news | 22:12 |
| amr | but i cant refresh package lists, or check my email using the client | 22:13 |
| * thopiekar has to take some time to reinstall the diablo sdk, because he is to nasty to search for a solution.. | 22:13 | |
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| amr | hmm.. and a reboot didnt fix it | 22:14 |
| amr | this is most disconcerting | 22:14 |
| thopiekar | amr: tried to reboot your device? | 22:14 |
| thopiekar | hmm :| | 22:14 |
| amr | hmm, i removed the usb cable | 22:15 |
| amr | and it seems to behave now | 22:15 |
| thopiekar | usb-network? | 22:15 |
| amr | ive just flashed it | 22:15 |
| amr | so theres nothing on there | 22:15 |
| thopiekar | ahh k | 22:15 |
| thopiekar | should work now.. | 22:15 |
| amr | package lists updated | 22:15 |
| amr | mail still chugging away | 22:16 |
| amr | hasnt even got a list of my folders yet | 22:16 |
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| amr | reboot seems to have fixed that too | 22:17 |
| Luke-Jr | RST38h: come to think of it, your attitude among the masses is probably a good part of how they can get away with it ;) | 22:20 |
| Luke-Jr | anyhow, bbl | 22:20 |
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| xnt14 | ls /var/www | 22:27 |
| xnt14 | crap wrong window :P | 22:27 |
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| * thopiekar is tried of diablo.. he will properly developt in Mer's env.. | 22:41 | |
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| johnsq | Re | 22:50 |
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| infobot | I herald you, my supreme master! Lead us into the light of your wisdom and power | 23:47 |
| RichiH | infobot: botsnack | 23:48 |
| infobot | thanks, RichiH | 23:48 |
| RichiH | so, i have a n810 sitting right next to me. its firmware seems to be somewhat broken. what should i put onto it to play with? | 23:48 |
| RichiH | i don't mind a rough edge here and there :) | 23:48 |
| RichiH | also, does anyone know the size & weigth of the n900 compared to the n810? | 23:49 |
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| florian | hi RichiH | 23:51 |
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| florian | RichiH: even the official firmware comes with a terminal :) | 23:52 |
| RichiH | i know | 23:52 |
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| RichiH | florian: i am just wondering if i should go for OS2008 or something else | 23:55 |
| florian | RichiH: I'd do this for now... | 23:56 |
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