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| Macer | i'm wondering if i shoul deven bother still trying to get this gbit nic working | 01:12 |
| johnx | you're still working on it? | 01:13 |
| Macer | naw. i fell asleep for a while | 01:13 |
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| Macer | ate... now i'm going to take a shower | 01:13 |
| Macer | it really sucks because it is the only thing left to fix :) | 01:13 |
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| Macer | other than that it's a pretty perfectly working osx install | 01:13 |
| johnx | backup, then run a software upgrade | 01:14 |
| Macer | i doubt a software upgrade will work | 01:14 |
| Macer | well.. at least for the nic | 01:14 |
| johnx | ah, that's not what I meant :) | 01:14 |
| Macer | even the realtek doesn't work | 01:15 |
| johnx | I just wanted to see if it would mess up your machine or not :D | 01:15 |
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| Macer | well.. if i can't get this nic working i might go back to win | 01:15 |
| Macer | so screw it... lets find out ;) | 01:15 |
| Macer | let me back the kernel up at least ;) | 01:17 |
| Macer | then i'll upgrade it and see how it goes | 01:18 |
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| Macer | what's really strange is this linksys card which is a realtek 8169 doesn't seem to want to work either | 01:21 |
| Macer | i would accept that..but this 100mbit card is just too slow | 01:21 |
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| b-man16 | i have a new host :) http://b-man.psykosis.net wohoo!! | 01:59 |
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| Jaffa | lo | 02:07 |
| lcuk | evening Jaffa | 02:08 |
| lcuk | back from your coffee hunt | 02:08 |
| Jaffa | yeah | 02:09 |
| lcuk | wicked, how was it | 02:09 |
| lcuk | and can we expect it on tablets lol | 02:09 |
| Jaffa | Trying to resist the urge to buy a MacBook air, which I can ill-afford, from the Apple store down the street | 02:10 |
| Jaffa | Last night in SF tonight | 02:10 |
| lcuk | yeah, what part of it are you liking? | 02:10 |
| lcuk | i suppose thou if you do get it, you will be showing off at the airport | 02:11 |
| lcuk | "yes, please scan my lovely new shiny *thin* machine | 02:11 |
| lcuk | "sure, ill pull it out of this envelope for you to check" | 02:11 |
| Jaffa | Lightweight, good for travelling when I don't want to take my big bulky work laptop | 02:11 |
| lcuk | whats the screensize on it? | 02:12 |
| Jaffa | Rover's hardly going to be good for further hacking on the move; so get a larger device for that | 02:12 |
| lcuk | and it works if you have a case style that suits, if i were just carrying something it would be smaller | 02:12 |
| Jaffa | 13", I think | 02:12 |
| Jaffa | Just tried finding a Dell Mini 9 to buy cheap, but not many computer stores in central SF, it seems | 02:13 |
| lcuk | handheld on the move is good, but i miss computer at the other end | 02:13 |
| * Jaffa nods | 02:13 | |
| lcuk | in cph there were entire metro stations kitted out in dell | 02:13 |
| lcuk | wall to wall dell adverts | 02:13 |
| Jaffa | Maybe an ARM netbook at some point this year; bujt I want to do some hacking *now* ;-) | 02:13 |
| lcuk | it was freaky | 02:13 |
| lcuk | yeah we all like hacking on sometihng | 02:14 |
| lcuk | liqbase runs so well on the new nokia, when i saw it scroll at cph it was a dream :D | 02:15 |
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| * lcuk asked a nokian to slow it down | 02:15 | |
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| parigaudi | hi | 02:16 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, so anything interesting actually announced | 02:16 |
| lcuk | hi parigaudi | 02:16 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Some stuff from Larry Ellison on Oracle's plans for Sun | 02:16 |
| b-man16 | hello, parigaudi | 02:17 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: But mostly just lots of interesting stuff, which'd be cool to be able to do on the Nokias; or I just wanna hack on | 02:17 |
| lcuk | anything mentioned on the android front, they are pretty much intertwined now arent they | 02:17 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Lots of Google web stuff, but not much Android presence that I saw. More focus on the "standard" JavaME | 02:19 |
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| lcuk | fair enough, theres certainly plenty of java interest and mostly jobs around for it | 02:19 |
| lcuk | any idea whether the next device will support the java instructions | 02:19 |
| lcuk | or even if they will exist on the chip | 02:19 |
| lcuk | its the sort of q GAN Would answer lol | 02:20 |
| Jaffa | I dunno; would be excellent if they did | 02:20 |
| lcuk | yeah im thinkin that too | 02:20 |
| lcuk | jazelle! | 02:20 |
| lcuk | i think lol | 02:20 |
| Jaffa | Dev tools are so much better and free | 02:20 |
| lcuk | its something we havent really touched on for this device | 02:20 |
| lcuk | and what might i ask is wrong with gcc | 02:21 |
| Jaffa | lardman tried rev. engineering them | 02:21 |
| lcuk | its the autotools which make it tiresome lol | 02:21 |
| * lcuk curses more at them | 02:21 | |
| lcuk | i have a package for the library btw! | 02:21 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: I like breakpointing my code, inspecting all the variables and chaning it on the fly *whilst it is running* | 02:21 |
| lcuk | and im atm tryiing to squash the app into one as well | 02:21 |
| Jaffa | cool! | 02:21 |
| lcuk | heh jaffa, thats visual basic | 02:21 |
| Jaffa | s/it/the executing code/ | 02:21 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: Yeah, but a real lang ;-) | 02:22 |
| lcuk | but when i tried it with visual studio . compact | 02:22 |
| * Jaffa goes for a wander... | 02:22 | |
| lcuk | heh ok | 02:22 |
| lcuk | you will have to show me proper nice targetted dev on embedded systems one day :) | 02:22 |
| lcuk | let us see what we are missing | 02:23 |
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| parigaudi | what calendar application is the best for maemo? | 02:32 |
| lcuk | liqbase! | 02:32 |
| lcuk | parigaudi, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo | 02:33 |
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| parigaudi | looks cool | 02:35 |
| lcuk | yeah and its gonna get better and better :) | 02:36 |
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| lcuk | parigaudi, theres a whole list of suitable PIM like apps on the maemo wiki | 02:39 |
| lcuk | with pros and cons of each | 02:39 |
| lcuk | https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:PIM | 02:40 |
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| parigaudi | ok thx lcuk | 02:43 |
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| smackpotato | java ????? | 03:03 |
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| b-man16 | hm? | 03:03 |
| smackpotato | how do i install | 03:04 |
| smackpotato | assuming i have the file | 03:04 |
| Jaffa | smackpotato: Google 'jalimo' | 03:04 |
| Jaffa | Assuming you have what file? | 03:05 |
| smackpotato | 1 sec | 03:05 |
| smackpotato | ejre-1_6_0_10-linux-armv6-vfp-eabi-eval.tar.gz | 03:06 |
| b-man16 | ah, btw, i will hopefully be releasing the Ejscript javascript web application framework for maemo soon | 03:06 |
| smackpotato | cool | 03:07 |
| Jaffa | b-man16: A bit like the old iJS for doing iPhone web apps? | 03:07 |
| b-man16 | i've been testing it and so far it works flawlessly | 03:07 |
| smackpotato | cool | 03:07 |
| b-man16 | kinda | 03:07 |
| b-man16 | it even compiled flawlessly :D | 03:07 |
| Jaffa | smackpotato: Oh, the Sun embedded JRE time-limited eval? (in no way Hildon integrated) | 03:08 |
| Jaffa | smackpotato: 'tar xzf' in some dir | 03:08 |
| b-man16 | Ejscript also supports jquery ;) | 03:08 |
| b-man16 | and has the capability to run bite compiled javascript va a virtual machine | 03:09 |
| b-man16 | pluse it has a built in webserver :D | 03:10 |
| luke-jr | byte* | 03:10 |
| * b-man16 grabs a testing link | 03:11 | |
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| b-man16 | http://b-man.psykosis.net/ejs-bin-0.9.9-3-debian-LINUX-armv6l.deb | 03:11 |
| b-man16 | dpkg -i that in maemo | 03:11 |
| b-man16 | cd to ~/ | 03:11 |
| * luke-jr notes js != java | 03:11 | |
| b-man16 | hold on.. /me grabs more instructions | 03:12 |
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| b-man16 | run 'ejsweb -v generate app blog' | 03:13 |
| b-man16 | open microb | 03:13 |
| b-man16 | and go to http://localhost:4000/ | 03:13 |
| b-man16 | and your in :) | 03:13 |
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| b-man16 | oh, wait, before opening microb, run 'ejsweb run' ;) | 03:15 |
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| smackpotato1 | about java? | 03:17 |
| b-man16 | it's a pritty nice environment :) | 03:17 |
| smackpotato1 | how come i dont get it | 03:17 |
| smackpotato1 | or am i thick | 03:18 |
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| Jaffa | smackpotato1: b-man16's not talking about Java | 03:21 |
| smackpotato1 | k | 03:21 |
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| smackpotato1 | see i am thick | 03:21 |
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| smackpotato1 | can anyone help me install embeded java | 03:30 |
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| smackpotato1 | so i untared it to root | 03:31 |
| smackpotato1 | runtared it to user rather | 03:31 |
| luke-jr | sounds like a horrible idea | 03:31 |
| b-man16 | hehe | 03:32 |
| smackpotato1 | ran it in root and it said vm not installed | 03:32 |
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| * b-man16 hates his unstable connection | 03:34 | |
| b-man16 | is it Java SE or Jailmo? | 03:34 |
| Jaffa | smackpotato1: It's intended for prospective Sun OEMs | 03:34 |
| smackpotato1 | java se | 03:34 |
| Jaffa | b-man16: Sun's Java SE Embedded | 03:34 |
| b-man16 | ah | 03:34 |
| smackpotato1 | so i should leave it alone | 03:34 |
| b-man16 | i had trubble with that too :( | 03:34 |
| Jaffa | smackpotato1: What do you want to do? | 03:35 |
| b-man16 | it requires you to set the library path | 03:35 |
| smackpotato1 | what about library permitions | 03:36 |
| b-man16 | do you have a readme in the jse directory? | 03:36 |
| smackpotato1 | can i set the path in the command line without setting the enviroment path | 03:37 |
| b-man16 | yes | 03:37 |
| smackpotato1 | ok thanks ill go play | 03:37 |
| * b-man16 grabs a good guide for setting up Java SE | 03:38 | |
| smackpotato1 | no only a bin and lib directory | 03:40 |
| b-man16 | hmm, i can't find the guide :( try googling "How to set environment variables for Java SE" | 03:41 |
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| b-man16 | there arn't any files? 0.o | 03:42 |
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| smackpotato1 | nope | 03:43 |
| b-man16 | there should be | 03:44 |
| b-man16 | hmm :( | 03:44 |
| b-man16 | did you get this from their site? - witch version did you get? | 03:45 |
| b-man16 | <repost>did you get this from their site? - witch version did you get? | 03:46 |
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| * b-man16 really hates his unstable connection | 03:46 | |
| Jaffa | WTF? Pressing 'Chr' just re-enabled the (disabled) word completion bar. | 03:49 |
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| smackpotato1 | i got it from suns site | 03:51 |
| b-man16 | but witch version did you get? | 03:52 |
| smackpotato1 | ejre-1_6_0_10-linux-armv6-vfp-eabi-eval.tar.gz | 03:53 |
| b-man16 | hmm | 03:54 |
| lcuk | Jaffa, it loaded the bar for alternative chars | 03:54 |
| lcuk | i think it goes away again after a whil;e | 03:54 |
| smackpotato1 | thanks | 03:56 |
| b-man16 | smackpotato1: did you look in the /bin or /lib directory? | 03:56 |
| Jaffa | lcuk: neverr happened before :-( | 03:56 |
| b-man16 | (in /ejre* ) | 03:56 |
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| lcuk | ooer, must be proximity to a mac store thats makin it more funky ;) | 03:57 |
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| smackpotato1 | missed that last line | 03:58 |
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| lcuk | ;) | 03:58 |
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| b-man16 | heh | 03:58 |
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| jaem_N810 | morning | 04:22 |
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| timeless_mbp | andre__: have you tried importing https://bugs.maemo.org/attachment.cgi?id=680 ? | 06:12 |
| n6pfk | I was complaining that my N810 was rebooting during a "sdc" to it. I was transferring to an external memory card. Transferring to internal memory worked and changing the external card for another worked. | 06:29 |
| n6pfk | Pardonme an "SCP" to it. | 06:29 |
| luke-jr | 'scp' | 06:29 |
| n6pfk | secure copy. Open ssh. | 06:29 |
| luke-jr | exactly | 06:30 |
| luke-jr | it's scp | 06:30 |
| luke-jr | :þ | 06:30 |
| n6pfk | So it was a bad memory card. | 06:30 |
| n6pfk | Or at least one the N810 didn't like. | 06:30 |
| ShadowJK | run fsck on it? | 06:35 |
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| n6pfk | Ok. | 06:39 |
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| diega | Hi all, are there images for n770 for mer > 0.12 somewhere? | 06:50 |
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| diega | ups, autoanswer # Rest will come (770, Beagleboard, Pocket Loox) once we can build their kernels in OBS. | 06:51 |
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| brankinhu | bolaum, hey man... was you who spoke about an IM client for canola in the maemo-developers?? | 07:00 |
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| bobpaul | gui samba client? | 07:39 |
| bobpaul | no? | 07:40 |
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| bobpaul | http://wiki.maemo.org/Accessing_Windows_CIFS says it should be automatic. im using latest os and shareed folders don't appear in filemanager :( | 07:55 |
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| RST38h | qwerty | 09:24 |
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| zakkm | does anyone know why im getting the compact-theme not found thingy, from trying to update mediabox? | 09:39 |
| zakkm | oh nevermind i can get that manually | 09:40 |
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| minra | would the "Tear" author please fix copy/paste? | 09:51 |
| zakkm | minra: its broken? | 09:51 |
| minra | yes | 09:51 |
| RST38h | minra: report it in the Tear thread on itt | 09:51 |
| zakkm | im not the author, but its always seemed fine for me | 09:52 |
| minra | you can copy/paste? | 09:52 |
| zakkm | yeah | 09:52 |
| minra | strange | 09:52 |
| zakkm | you use 0.3.1 ? | 09:53 |
| qwerty12_N810 | i've found that it copies and pastes better on my n800 then it does on here :\ | 09:53 |
| qwerty12_N810 | moo RST38h | 09:53 |
| minra | 0.3 | 09:53 |
| zakkm | minra: copy paste came in 0.3.1 .. | 09:54 |
| zakkm | or broke and then fixed in 0.3.1 maybe | 09:54 |
| ShadowJK | also I think copy/paste from webpages worked but not from/to addressbar | 09:54 |
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| minra | Reading state information... Done | 09:54 |
| zakkm | no he fixed that | 09:54 |
| minra | newest version | 09:55 |
| zakkm | ShadowJK: he fixed that | 09:55 |
| zakkm | minra: it says 0.3 ? | 09:55 |
| Zaqq | hi. can i run a JAVA AWT based trading terminal on maemo? | 09:55 |
| zakkm | minra: diablo? | 09:55 |
| minra | apt-cache show shows 2.3 | 09:55 |
| minra | 3.0 | 09:55 |
| minra | yes | 09:55 |
| zakkm | minra: http://bundyo.org/maemo/tear/tear-0.3.1-2_armel.deb | 09:55 |
| zakkm | open deb from menu in application manager | 09:55 |
| zakkm | or double click on deb on tablet | 09:55 |
| minra | Linux Nokia-N810-43-7 2.6.21-omap1 #2 Tue Oct 14 11:25:25 EEST 2008 armv6l | 09:55 |
| minra | ok ty! | 09:56 |
| zakkm | does anyone know why stomp mario game wont work for me anymore? | 09:56 |
| zakkm | or know the terminal command for it rather | 09:56 |
| minra | what game? | 09:57 |
| minra | smw? | 09:57 |
| zakkm | yeah | 09:57 |
| zakkm | oh hah thats the command | 09:57 |
| minra | i forgot.. try smw | 09:57 |
| minra | :) | 09:57 |
| zakkm | ah man gotta reinstall | 09:58 |
| minra | im afraid that may not go to extras | 09:58 |
| zakkm | what wont? | 09:58 |
| minra | copyright issues | 09:58 |
| minra | smw | 09:58 |
| zakkm | i dont care :p | 09:58 |
| minra | im impressed you can play it | 10:00 |
| minra | quite timing sensitive | 10:00 |
| zakkm | heh i wanted to show a friend it | 10:01 |
| minra | i hope next nokias can do ad-hoc gaming via bluetooth | 10:01 |
| zakkm | and it wouldnt play | 10:01 |
| minra | smw needs 2p | 10:01 |
| zakkm | no | 10:01 |
| zakkm | computer? | 10:01 |
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| zakkm | AI | 10:01 |
| minra | well | 10:01 |
| minra | i would prefer fighting people using an equally difficult dpad | 10:02 |
| minra | speaking of which, uqm needs a difficulty slider for space combat | 10:03 |
| minra | possibly via fps reduction | 10:03 |
| zakkm | is tear working? | 10:04 |
| minra | testing.. | 10:04 |
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| ShadowJK | I don't see why it couldn't do ad-hoc gaming via bluetooth as-is.. | 10:05 |
| minra | yes, c/p workinga | 10:05 |
| minra | ! | 10:06 |
| zakkm | and speedups and such :P | 10:06 |
| minra | how can a proggy setup bt network ShadowJK | 10:06 |
| minra | very nice. so happy | 10:07 |
| ShadowJK | There's bluez on N8x0, right | 10:07 |
| minra | yes | 10:07 |
| minra | maybe someone has done this already | 10:07 |
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| qwerty12_N810 | there's a thread on PAN @ itt/tmo | 10:08 |
| ShadowJK | do you really need PAN for that? | 10:09 |
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| ShadowJK | though I suppose it'd help if the game already support p2p tcp/ip multiplayer | 10:10 |
| qwerty12_N810 | maybe, if they don't support bluetooth but network play. but at least you get an ip :) | 10:11 |
| thux | btw is bt-radio and wifi radio chips related to each other? have noticed bad effect on wifi when turn bt off | 10:11 |
| zakkm | wooh the new mediabox is nice :D | 10:11 |
| zakkm | heh why'd canola development stop? | 10:12 |
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| ShadowJK | thux, they share the same antenna and share the same radio band.. turning off bluetooth should have a good effect on wifi.. | 10:15 |
| thux | ShadowJK: ok, strange then that i got opposite results | 10:15 |
| ShadowJK | indeed | 10:16 |
| thux | but i test some more | 10:16 |
| minra | new tear is very, very fast! | 10:18 |
| zakkm | is it? | 10:18 |
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| minra | tear copy-from-url-field still broken | 10:32 |
| minra | can not c/p my current page | 10:32 |
| minra | http://www.axis.com/products/cam_212/show.htm | 10:33 |
| minra | hmm but copy link from page works | 10:33 |
| zakkm | minra: uhh | 10:34 |
| zakkm | works for me? | 10:35 |
| Macer | zakkm: heh.. never got the gbit ethernet working. did get everything else going though | 10:35 |
| zakkm | you use the button in the virtual keyboard? | 10:35 |
| Macer | i gave up :) | 10:36 |
| zakkm | Macer: wait | 10:36 |
| Macer | i did get an older realtek to work | 10:36 |
| minra | no - highlighted current url, then edit-copy | 10:36 |
| Macer | 100mbit | 10:36 |
| zakkm | the realtek one or the marvell one? | 10:36 |
| Macer | both gbit ones didn't work | 10:36 |
| zakkm | so everything marvell didnt work? | 10:36 |
| zakkm | but realtek did? | 10:36 |
| Macer | i tried an 8169 and the onboard | 10:36 |
| Macer | only the 100mbit realtek worked | 10:36 |
| zakkm | you could get a better kext / mess with network strings | 10:36 |
| Macer | oh screw that.. i tried that all day | 10:37 |
| Macer | but the sound/video/hd booting.. i got working | 10:37 |
| zakkm | heh awesome | 10:37 |
| Macer | but i need the gbit ;) 100mbit isn't that good | 10:37 |
| zakkm | not good enough though? | 10:37 |
| Macer | it would have been perfect if the gbit worked | 10:37 |
| Macer | although this time i just used the iPC 10.5.6 install DVD with the modded install | 10:37 |
| zakkm | heh | 10:37 |
| zakkm | so much easier ;p | 10:38 |
| Macer | but even using their ktext drivers (which worked for everything else) i couldn't get the networking going | 10:38 |
| zakkm | did you goto customize and goto networking? | 10:38 |
| Macer | like the video and the sound came off them.. but for some reason the nic just wouldn't work | 10:38 |
| zakkm | you could just do all.. | 10:38 |
| Macer | install all the drivers? :) | 10:38 |
| zakkm | yeah | 10:38 |
| Macer | i was thinking about doing that but i just said screw it and put linux on it | 10:38 |
| zakkm | for network thats fine, not video though | 10:38 |
| zakkm | ew :D | 10:38 |
| Macer | heh.. i'm working on installing opensolaris on my artigo now | 10:38 |
| Macer | i know it kinda sucks :) | 10:39 |
| Macer | that modified install is great though | 10:39 |
| zakkm | never tried opensolaris i think | 10:39 |
| Macer | they obviously did quite a bit of work on it | 10:39 |
| Macer | it's a bitch ;) | 10:39 |
| Macer | it's great once you get it working though | 10:39 |
| zakkm | heh | 10:39 |
| Macer | at least for a server it is | 10:39 |
| Macer | for desktop use it totally sucks | 10:39 |
| zakkm | done alot of distro using/exploring over the years... still remember redhat 9 :D | 10:39 |
| zakkm | but think i skipped opensolaris | 10:39 |
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| Macer | heh | 10:39 |
| Macer | i really do wish that osx worked on this shuttle box | 10:40 |
| Macer | if only the onboard lan worked i'd be a happy camper :) | 10:40 |
| zakkm | redhat 9 is olddd :P considering my current age ;) | 10:40 |
| zakkm | heh | 10:40 |
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| Macer | ah well :) | 10:41 |
| Macer | maybe i'll try again some day | 10:41 |
| Macer | what really suprises me is the realtek didn't work | 10:41 |
| zakkm | you selected realtek8169 ? | 10:41 |
| Macer | yah | 10:41 |
| Macer | the chip says 8169S | 10:41 |
| Macer | wonder if the S had anything to do with it | 10:42 |
| zakkm | well thats different ;p | 10:42 |
| Macer | the marvell kept giving me an MSI error | 10:42 |
| Macer | is it? | 10:42 |
| Macer | they didn't have 8169S in the list | 10:42 |
| zakkm | that would use the rtl8111 driver | 10:42 |
| zakkm | i think | 10:42 |
| zakkm | nononon | 10:42 |
| Macer | wow seriously? | 10:42 |
| zakkm | rtl1000 | 10:42 |
| Macer | that was the only realtek gbit driver they had and it's the one i used | 10:43 |
| Macer | the rtl1000 | 10:43 |
| Macer | didn't work :) | 10:43 |
| zakkm | then i dont know | 10:43 |
| zakkm | did you try searching your shuttle | 10:43 |
| zakkm | what is the shuttle name? | 10:44 |
| zakkm | or motherboard in it | 10:44 |
| Macer | kpc/k45 | 10:44 |
| Macer | yeah i tried that too | 10:44 |
| Macer | i might bust it open and physically stare at the nic chip | 10:44 |
| Macer | and see if it is maybe just detecting wrong with lspci | 10:44 |
| Macer | but i doubt that | 10:44 |
| Macer | the 8139 worked without anything though | 10:45 |
| zakkm | LAN: works. (Select IONetworkPatch) | 10:45 |
| Macer | internally supported by osx i suppose | 10:45 |
| zakkm | <--- k45 /k48 shuttle | 10:45 |
| Macer | i didn't see an ionetworkpatch in the list | 10:45 |
| Macer | where are you seeing that? | 10:45 |
| zakkm | hardware compatibility list ;p | 10:45 |
| Macer | i checked the list.. it only had a k48 | 10:45 |
| zakkm | Board: KPC45v1 | 10:46 |
| Macer | that's 10.5.2 :) | 10:46 |
| zakkm | so | 10:46 |
| zakkm | its still the same thing | 10:46 |
| zakkm | its not like diablo vs os2007 ... | 10:47 |
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| Macer | LAN: Gigabit Ethernet network controller (Marvell 8056): Not Tested | 10:47 |
| zakkm | its like saying omg this app is only for sp1 xp, it doesnt work in sp2, sp3 xp | 10:47 |
| zakkm | yeah they didnt test it | 10:47 |
| zakkm | the other person did though | 10:47 |
| Macer | ok. after this osol install on the artigo which looks like it's going to be a while.... | 10:48 |
| Macer | i will see if i can find the patch | 10:48 |
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| Macer | but they were using Jas. i was using iPC | 10:48 |
| zakkm | theres so much posts on it hah | 10:49 |
| Macer | but iPC had most of everything so maybe i just didn't see it | 10:49 |
| Macer | i know :) | 10:49 |
| Macer | i went through a thousand of them trying to figure it out | 10:49 |
| Macer | the iPC dvd puts the proper stuff on the box though | 10:49 |
| Macer | i really don't think it has anything to do with IONetwork because on hour 6 i vaguely remember checking it and it was correct already | 10:50 |
| Macer | but i'll check.. i'll just take a look at the options and see if i missed it .who knows .. maybe i did | 10:50 |
| Macer | which would totally suck. | 10:50 |
| zakkm | it would be under "patches" i think, under kernel or at total bottom | 10:51 |
| zakkm | not necessary under network | 10:51 |
| Macer | it was towards the bottom | 10:51 |
| Macer | well. the section was.. i didn't see it though | 10:51 |
| Macer | i think i'd have noticed it because i saw something similar in relation to a k48 which is pretty similar | 10:51 |
| Macer | but like i said.. i'll check and if i don't see it i'll stash the dvd in the shredder :) | 10:52 |
| zakkm | heh | 10:52 |
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| Macer | i just thought it was kind of awesome when it boot that it was at a good res and the sound was playing :) | 10:53 |
| Macer | especially considering it boot from the hard drive haha | 10:53 |
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| Macer | a taste of progress | 10:54 |
| Macer | i guess the 8169S is considered an 8168? | 10:57 |
| Macer | wtf? :) blah. i'll let you know.. going to eat a couple pieces of pizza | 10:57 |
| zakkm | no well sort of | 10:57 |
| zakkm | drivers are same for multiple ones | 10:57 |
| zakkm | ahh im hungry | 10:57 |
| zakkm | its 4am here | 10:57 |
| Macer | ah i see... ah well | 10:57 |
| Macer | get breakfast :) | 10:57 |
| zakkm | should sleep soon ;p | 10:58 |
| Macer | sleep is a crutch | 10:58 |
| zakkm | ? | 10:58 |
| Macer | haha.. it's what they use to tell us in the Marines | 10:58 |
| Macer | :) | 10:58 |
| Macer | ah well.. be back later.. going ot eat. | 10:58 |
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| zakkm | what video compression would be best for the nokia in terms of battery life? | 11:30 |
| mavhc | I'd assume one that worked on the dsp | 11:36 |
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| Mek | is it supposed to be impossible to install an ARMEL target in scratchbox for fremantle? | 12:11 |
| Mek | there seem to be some required packages missing | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | did you remember nokia-binaries token repository ? | 12:12 |
| Mek | Stskeeps: already during the installation of the sdk it fails because some packages are missing | 12:13 |
| Stskeeps | which? | 12:13 |
| Mek | (and yes, I tried it with nokia-binaries aas well, in that case it fails trying to load some kernel modules on package installation) | 12:13 |
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| Mek | libgles2-sgx-img-dev is a package that is required indirectly by maemo-sdk-dev that is missing | 12:14 |
| Mek | uhm, no, sorry | 12:15 |
| Mek | that one is available, and replaces libgles2-dev, but something depends on that last one | 12:15 |
| Mek | no, I'm still misreading apt output | 12:16 |
| Mek | libclutter-0.8-0: Depends: libgles2-sgx-img but it is not installable or | 12:16 |
| Mek | libgles2 but it is not installable | 12:16 |
| Mek | that is the problem I'm having | 12:16 |
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| Stskeeps | looks like missing nokia-binaries | 12:16 |
| Mek | than still the sdk is broken for armel, as there is no way to add nokia-binaries before running the sdk installation shell script | 12:17 |
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| minra | doc|home, you are not being wise | 12:41 |
| minra | you are being stupid | 12:41 |
| minra | l8r peeps | 12:41 |
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| p-f | has anyone tried to run firefox on a n810? I tried fennec, but it seems to lack support for most extensions... | 13:14 |
| p-f | (just wondering if it's worth the effort of compiling it by hand) | 13:15 |
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| mavhc | on maemo? | 13:33 |
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| timeless_mbp | p-f: um | 13:39 |
| timeless_mbp | last i checked there were 20+ extensions available for fennec | 13:39 |
| timeless_mbp | i installed them all and my manager got upset | 13:40 |
| timeless_mbp | he said i can't ever touch his computer again | 13:40 |
| timeless_mbp | :) | 13:40 |
| p-f | timeless_mbp, I tried to install readitlater, it just stood there for a while and then I never heard from it again | 13:40 |
| timeless_mbp | out of curiosity, which addons do you really want from firefox/ | 13:41 |
| p-f | readitlater | 13:41 |
| * timeless_mbp goes hunting for a readitlater tutorial | 13:41 | |
| p-f | it allows you to bookmark pages to read them later, save them to an offline cache so you can read them offline, etc. | 13:41 |
| p-f | for now I'm syncing the offline cache from my main laptop with rsync, it's annoying | 13:41 |
| timeless_mbp | pfexec pkg install SUNWipkg | 13:41 |
| timeless_mbp | eep | 13:41 |
| timeless_mbp | http://readitlaterlist.com/bookmarklets/ | 13:41 |
| timeless_mbp | should work on MicroB :) | 13:41 |
| p-f | yes, except that won't give me real integration with a browser | 13:42 |
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| p-f | nor will it give me the offline cache | 13:42 |
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| timeless_mbp | i'd suggest contacting them and asking for a fennec port | 13:43 |
| p-f | how hard is it to port to fennec usually? | 13:43 |
| timeless_mbp | i've ported an extension in a minute or two | 13:43 |
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| timeless_mbp | and that was by reverse engineering another fennec extension :) | 13:43 |
| timeless_mbp | it typically depends on how much ui integration is required | 13:43 |
| timeless_mbp | mine required ZERO | 13:43 |
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| p-f | this one modifies the address bar to add a few buttons and also adds an entry in the menus | 13:44 |
| timeless_mbp | eww | 13:45 |
| timeless_mbp | that's a no-no | 13:45 |
| timeless_mbp | it's trivial to do, but totally uncool for fennec | 13:45 |
| timeless_mbp | there's a proposal for how it should be done for fennec, but it isn't implemented yet | 13:45 |
| timeless_mbp | some fennec's run on screens that are 320 or fewer pixels wide | 13:45 |
| timeless_mbp | eating horizontal realestate from the address bar is.... bad | 13:46 |
| p-f | yeah I can see how that would be bad | 13:46 |
| p-f | except I'm on a n810 which has tons of horizontal space | 13:46 |
| timeless_mbp | sure you are, but the extension would be for fennec, not fennec-n810 | 13:47 |
| p-f | there's plenty of space in that bar on the right with the back/forward buttons | 13:47 |
| timeless_mbp | what if the screen is 320px tall? :) | 13:48 |
| * timeless_mbp is too lazy to run fennec | 13:48 | |
| timeless_mbp | but seriousl, in general, that's a slightly better place than the address bar, but not really ideal | 13:48 |
| timeless_mbp | the proposal is to share larry instead | 13:49 |
| p-f | larry? | 13:49 |
| timeless_mbp | http://readitlaterlist.com/bookmarklets/ | 13:49 |
| timeless_mbp | arg | 13:50 |
| timeless_mbp | http://news.cnet.com/8301-10789_3-9970606-57.html | 13:50 |
| p-f | sounds like you're on linux, enjoying the pains of the multiple paste buffers :) | 13:50 |
| timeless_mbp | oddly i'm on OS X | 13:50 |
| timeless_mbp | enjoying the pains of high latency | 13:51 |
| timeless_mbp | there's a 1.5GB vm launching in the background | 13:51 |
| p-f | oh | 13:51 |
| p-f | it's probably very shiny though | 13:51 |
| timeless_mbp | yes | 13:51 |
| timeless_mbp | OSOL | 13:51 |
| timeless_mbp | SunOS indiana 5.11 snv_111b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris | 13:51 |
| timeless_mbp | shiny and new, just upgraded a minute ago | 13:52 |
| timeless_mbp | and yes, i copied that from a gnome-terminal into colloquy w/o issue | 13:52 |
| timeless_mbp | in contrast to the pain i'm having copying from Camino.app | 13:52 |
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| p-f | could be worse, like trying to copy from a java application to $anywhereelse | 13:53 |
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| timeless_mbp | sun(osol)java or apple(osx)java? :) | 13:54 |
| timeless_mbp | (sounds like the question about the unladen swallow) | 13:54 |
| p-f | I'm stuck on linux, so sun java ;) | 13:55 |
| timeless_mbp | there's also ibm java and ... | 13:55 |
| timeless_mbp | but your first mistake was Linux :) | 13:55 |
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| p-f | it's the least bad so far | 13:56 |
| * p-f shrugs | 13:56 | |
| p-f | they're all pretty bad though | 13:57 |
| p-f | (the OSs, that is) | 13:57 |
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| Macer | hi | 14:32 |
| RST38h | umgh | 14:43 |
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| parigaudi | hi | 15:22 |
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| parigaudi | is there a way to have a login/authentication (password or other) when maemo starts? | 15:23 |
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| Stskeeps | there's a lock code thing | 15:26 |
| timeless_mbp | parigaudi: what's your goal? | 15:30 |
| timeless_mbp | keep in mind that the device runs linux people can boot it from usb or mmc | 15:30 |
| parigaudi | hmm... | 15:32 |
| parigaudi | my goal was basically to be able to let it on my desk and avoid that collegues play with it | 15:32 |
| mavhc | define "starts" | 15:33 |
| parigaudi | but yeah, i'll also have to think about some encryption | 15:33 |
| parigaudi | mavhc: when it boots | 15:34 |
| mavhc | but it's left running 24/7 in general | 15:34 |
| parigaudi | ok you're right. my current habit to turn it off whenever i don't use it may not be splendid when i start using calendar alarms | 15:35 |
| timeless_mbp | alarms will wake it up | 15:35 |
| timeless_mbp | our device isn't as stupid as some others | 15:35 |
| timeless_mbp | (a coworker points to a phone which plays his 7am alarm when he gets to work and turns on his phone) | 15:36 |
| timeless_mbp | parigaudi: what's wrong w/ letting your colleagues play w/ your toy? | 15:36 |
| parigaudi | not in my absence | 15:36 |
| parigaudi | my data... | 15:37 |
| timeless_mbp | but yes, the lock feature will do what you want | 15:37 |
| timeless_mbp | default lock is 12345 iirc | 15:37 |
| parigaudi | ok well then i guess i'll use that then thx | 15:37 |
| timeless_mbp | or empty, one of those, i can't remember, it's in the docs | 15:37 |
| timeless_mbp | and it'll ask when you turn it on if it was impolitely turned off while locked | 15:37 |
| parigaudi | good | 15:38 |
| mavhc | do you choose when to lock it, or is it automatic? | 15:38 |
| mavhc | after you enable the locking feature | 15:38 |
| timeless_mbp | the easiest way is {power key} > lock device | 15:39 |
| timeless_mbp | beyond that, *shrug* | 15:39 |
| timeless_mbp | please keep in mind insecurity through repeatedly entering a password | 15:39 |
| ShadowJK | I've heard of phones that play the alarm when you wake it from idle :) | 15:39 |
| timeless_mbp | if you enter a password hundreds of times, someone will eventually see you enter it | 15:39 |
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| mavhc | looks like there's an option for autolock | 15:43 |
| mavhc | oddly you have to enter the code to lock it | 15:43 |
| qwerty12_N810 | first time only | 15:44 |
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| mavhc | ah yes, good idea that | 15:46 |
| mavhc | also good idea to have a code already in | 15:46 |
| mavhc | I like it, might use it | 15:47 |
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| timeless_mbp | mavhc: the alternative is that it autolocks w/ a lock key you don't know | 16:00 |
| timeless_mbp | which would be um.... well... | 16:00 |
| mavhc | indeed | 16:00 |
| timeless_mbp | nokia doesn't promise to recover your data if you do that | 16:00 |
| timeless_mbp | keep that in mind if you use autolock :) | 16:00 |
| timeless_mbp | in fact, iirc we promise not to offer your data if you lock yourself out | 16:01 |
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| GAN800 | parigaudi, don't turn the device off. It's designed to be left on 24/7. Cycling it wastes MASSIVE amounts of battery. | 16:28 |
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| Stskeeps | lo b-man | 16:47 |
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| b-man` | hello :) | 16:47 |
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| b-man` | Stskeeps: i'll be releasing Ejscript for maemo soon :) | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | ejscript? :P | 16:49 |
| b-man` | (javascript web application framework) | 16:49 |
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| b-man` | yes http://www.ejscript.org/ | 16:50 |
| b-man` | http://b-man.psykosis.net/ejs-bin-0.9.9-3-debian-LINUX-armv6l.deb :) | 16:50 |
| b-man` | ^ for testing | 16:52 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, that'll be interesting | 16:53 |
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| b-man` | it's also available for mer :) | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | is it fast? | 16:55 |
| b-man` | the nice thing about it is that it's verry easy too set up | 16:55 |
| b-man` | yes | 16:55 |
| b-man` | :) | 16:55 |
| b-man` | in fact, i have it running right now and i can hardly notice any differences in speed | 16:57 |
| b-man` | (it's designed to be light weight and use fuew resources) | 16:58 |
| b-man` | but at the same time it's quite powerful | 16:59 |
| b-man` | it even has a localised web server XD - and it has the ability to byte compile javascripts to run with it's virtual machine for fast execution :) | 17:01 |
| b-man` | all in a 7mb deb | 17:01 |
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| user__ | hello? | 18:14 |
| user__ | how change browser helper app for wav file to mplayer? default mediaa player can't play my voicemails. | 18:15 |
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| user__ | installed mplayer browser plugin which shows as browser componet | 18:16 |
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| crashanddie_ | I just baffled an Amazon helpdesk operator | 18:16 |
| crashanddie_ | Called the Kindle helpline to ask when they were planning on a release in the UK, she actually seemed very surprised when I said I was calling from the UK, I'm guessing she never got trained for that :P | 18:18 |
| user__ | where else would uk user caall from? | 18:19 |
| qwerty12 | crashanddie_: I guess your question got answered somewhat, then? :P | 18:19 |
| crashanddie_ | user__: well, from the US? "Hi, I just bought a Kindle and am going back to the UK next week, will my Kindle work?" | 18:20 |
| user__ | ahh... | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | "no, if it crosses US borders it self destructs" | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:20 |
| crashanddie_ | qwerty12: yeah, they're sending me special beta version tomorrow | 18:20 |
| crashanddie_ | qwerty12: half the interwebs is trying to get an answer on that question, you think I'd actually get a reply? | 18:21 |
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| crashanddie_ | qwerty12: I'm just bored in the office and can't be arsed to work | 18:21 |
| user__ | you'd think they'd have answer for us people who travel at least | 18:21 |
| chx | hi. anyone ever managed to join a Skype public chat on N810? | 18:21 |
| crashanddie_ | user__: yeah, the answer is "Whispernet doesn't work outside the US" | 18:22 |
| qwerty12 | crashanddie_: "answered" in the sense that she wondered why TF you're calling from the UK | 18:22 |
| crashanddie_ | qwerty12: oh, right, sorry, that was a tiny but too subtle for me :P | 18:22 |
| crashanddie_ | qwerty12: soo, when the fuck are you turning 18? That we can finally buy you a beer | 18:23 |
| qwerty12 | 1 year & 4 months | 18:23 |
| user__ | chx: skype has public chat? | 18:24 |
| crashanddie_ | sod it, that'll require a bloody miracle for me to still be in the UK by the | 18:24 |
| crashanddie_ | s/the/then/ | 18:24 |
| infobot | crashanddie_ meant: sod it, that'll require a bloody miracle for me to still be in then UK by the | 18:24 |
| qwerty12 | heh | 18:24 |
| crashanddie_ | stupid bot | 18:25 |
| crashanddie_ | s/bot/piece of crap/ | 18:25 |
| infobot | crashanddie_ meant: stupid piece of crap | 18:25 |
| crashanddie_ | infobot: you need to build yourself some wireless synaptic interfaces so you understand wtf we actually want you to replace | 18:26 |
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| crashanddie_ | infobot: cookie | 18:26 |
| infobot | Hey crashanddie_, port 3055 is policyserver - Policy Server | 18:26 |
| * crashanddie_ facepalms | 18:27 | |
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| user__ | so... can i make browser use mpllayer for wav instead 'Media Player'? | 18:28 |
| crashanddie_ | using a media player to play media inside a browser is so 90's! People should use an integrated technology inside the browser to play videos and streaming music, YAAAAAAY | 18:29 |
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| chx | user__: yes | 18:30 |
| user__ | ok. but my voicemail come as wav email attachh. click. download or open with media player, which ca't play them | 18:30 |
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| chx | user__: AFAIK you need dbus to join | 18:31 |
| user__ | chx: sorry, doesn't need be in browser. I just want mplayer to launch and play from /tmp download. Easy to change on computer. don't see setting on tablet | 18:33 |
| qwerty12 | user__: google "dbus-switchboard" | 18:34 |
| user__ | qwerty12: thanks, i will | 18:34 |
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| crashanddie_ | anyone ever seen the ultraviolet rendition of a belgian passport? | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | nop | 18:39 |
| crashanddie_ | want to? | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | sure :P | 18:39 |
| crashanddie_ | hang on, lemme upload | 18:39 |
| crashanddie_ | http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9877/passport.jpg | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | not to say anything but your passport number is visible :P | 18:42 |
| crashanddie_ | so? | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | potentially abusable? :P | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah, that looks beautiful | 18:42 |
| crashanddie_ | nope it ain't :) | 18:42 |
| qwerty12 | Damn, I wanted to use that but I won't pass for Belgian :( | 18:42 |
| crashanddie_ | my passport number is public knowledge | 18:42 |
| qwerty12 | It is now | 18:42 |
| crashanddie_ | it was before as well | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: in these multicultural days you might, heh | 18:43 |
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| Stskeeps | crashanddie_: you're younger than me? | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | that's terrifying | 18:43 |
| crashanddie_ | I am? | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | <- 84'er | 18:43 |
| crashanddie_ | Why is that terrifying? | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | well you're obviously doing cooler things than me ;) | 18:43 |
| crashanddie_ | yeah, sure | 18:44 |
| crashanddie_ | working on a sunday afternoon | 18:44 |
| crashanddie_ | I love your definition of cool | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 18:44 |
| crashanddie_ | but yeah, working with passport scanners is kinda funky | 18:45 |
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| crashanddie_ | it's kinda random though... sometimes the scanner will raise a security alert, you ask it to scan again and it's fine... | 18:45 |
| crashanddie_ | The number of false positives are quite amazing | 18:45 |
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| Stskeeps | crashanddie being the guy you don't want to 1) show your passport number to and 2) piss off ;) | 18:46 |
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| crashanddie_ | lol... This friend of mine talks to me on Google Talk | 18:51 |
| crashanddie_ | completely random | 18:51 |
| crashanddie_ | he actually forgot I lived in the UK, but not content to only forget that, he didn't remember I lived in France for 10 years? Wtf? | 18:52 |
| crashanddie_ | weed is bad for yo memoreeeezz | 18:52 |
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| Macer | is zfs create -p <mountpoint> | 19:21 |
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| * RST38h moos | 19:36 | |
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| andre__ | timeless_mbp, Re 680: I don't think so. What would be the reason to have this if the list gets updated when starting AM and adding new repos anyway? | 20:10 |
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| andre__ | Mek: Re libclutter-0.8-0: Depends: libgles2-sgx-img but it is not installable: See https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4503 | 20:12 |
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| balor | Is there a block/component diagram for the maemo stack similar to the diagram for Gnome mobile or Android (http://www.gnome.org/mobile/gmae-arch-diag.png and http://developer.android.com/images/system-architecture.jpg) | 20:51 |
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| Stskeeps | maemo.org - development - platform guide - chapter 3 | 20:54 |
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| balor | Stskeeps: Thanks....missed that. | 21:00 |
| balor | Still can't find it. Am looking here http://maemo.org/maemo_release_documentation/maemo4.1.x/node4.html Am I in the wrong place? | 21:03 |
| balor | Here it is http://maemo.org/development/training/maemo_technology_overview_content/plain_html/node6/ :) | 21:04 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, 5 | 21:04 |
| balor | thanks a lot | 21:05 |
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| RST38h | Heheh, Engadget found an image of N810 labelled "N900" in some Nokia presentation | 21:09 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, and that's from a non-nokia presentation | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | students | 21:09 |
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| RST38h | even funnier | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | i bet quim & peter are thrilled | 21:10 |
| Stskeeps | especially since that particular tablet looks crap | 21:10 |
| RST38h | probably laughing their socks off | 21:10 |
| crashanddie | Stskeeps, lol, I only use passport scanners, I don't make 'em | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | ah, good :P | 21:12 |
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| crashanddie | Stskeeps, got a picture? | 21:18 |
| crashanddie | Stskeeps, of yourself? | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | er.. yeah, i guess, sec | 21:19 |
| crashanddie | Stskeeps, I'll make sure my software raises an alert as soon as it recognises you, no need for your passport number :P | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/fb.JPG still applies | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | (facial match -that-..) | 21:19 |
| crashanddie | damn, it's not gonna like the glasses :P | 21:19 |
| crashanddie | "ERROR<USER_NOT_BLIND_NOR_SMOKING>" | 21:20 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 21:21 |
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| RST38h | This one is easy to match | 21:24 |
| RST38h | There is going to be just ONE freak with yellow glasses like these, so you can match the glasses | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | i don't wear those glasses normally | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:25 |
| RST38h | Then it will match you by face | 21:25 |
| RST38h | These systems usually store multiple images for each guy =) | 21:25 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, Regardless if he actually wears those regularly (I would hope not), if he actually wears them at one of our customers, he won't even get the chance to get to my application :P | 21:25 |
| Stskeeps | ah, so that's why v6sa took so many pictures of me | 21:26 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, I think the most casual I've seen there on-site was suit without tie | 21:26 |
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| RST38h | crashanddie: IBM offices are creepy in this sense | 21:27 |
| RST38h | crashanddie: Full of absolutely identical balding fat guys in identical shirts with identical sheepish smiles on their faces | 21:27 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, heh | 21:27 |
| * RST38h was real scared of that and the fact that IBM security guys wrote serial numbers off all computers, keyboards, mice, and PDAs on entrance | 21:28 | |
| Stskeeps | i wonder how nokia security is like, especially after lcuk almost didn't make it out alive.. | 21:29 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:29 |
| RST38h | Commodore has legendary security protocols | 21:29 |
| RST38h | Had to file separate documentation even if you were going to remove an empty cardboard box off site | 21:29 |
| * RST38h returns to reading The Terror | 21:31 | |
| Stskeeps | i really need to get some sci fi litterature for my summer | 21:31 |
| RST38h | Terror isn't really scifi | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | well, or anything :P | 21:32 |
| RST38h | But the Hyperion Cantos and Ilium/Olympos are mighty good | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | i've been meaning to get into hyperion at some point | 21:32 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, worst thing I've seen was being stripped from phone, USB devices and anything that could emit bluetooth/wifi | 21:32 |
| crashanddie | BUT THEY DIDN'T SEE MY WATCH HAD USB, MHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA | 21:33 |
| RST38h | crashanddie: Welcome to US embassy anywhere on the planet | 21:33 |
| crashanddie | it's completely stupid | 21:33 |
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| crashanddie | just call CA and ask for sanctuary | 21:33 |
| RST38h | Not sure what they are afraid about, too | 21:33 |
| crashanddie | sanctuary is a pretty good system when you have the need for such security | 21:34 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: just be aware they Hyperion is seriously creepy | 21:34 |
| crashanddie | anyway, gotta put some laundry to wash, brb | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: ah, probably not a book for my gf but i can handle most things :P | 21:34 |
| timeless_mbp | andre__: hrm | 21:34 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: My wife stopped in the middle of book #2 | 21:34 |
| timeless_mbp | https://bugs.maemo.org/attachment.cgi?id=680, not bug | 21:35 |
| andre__ | ah | 21:35 |
| crashanddie | Stskeeps, Nokia's security still has severe leaks | 21:35 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: Said she does not like having nightmares on daily basis | 21:35 |
| crashanddie | Stskeeps, just like their boots a few decades ago | 21:35 |
| andre__ | damn. i should learn reading | 21:35 |
| timeless_mbp | andre__: or to use a mouse :)( | 21:35 |
| andre__ | never! | 21:35 |
| RST38h | crashanddie: Where would we be without these leaks? | 21:36 |
| crashanddie | http://www.fwtyson.co.uk/shop/shopimages/products/normal/nokiamens.jpg | 21:36 |
| RST38h | crashanddie: and this way we have stuff to bitch about =) | 21:36 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: scaringily enough, it's the traditional human activities that mess me up sometimes, fiction doesn't do it that easily :P | 21:36 |
| timeless_mbp | RST38h: you'd bitch with or without | 21:36 |
| timeless_mbp | andre__: i think a bunch of the bugs had attachments or initial steps for testing | 21:36 |
| timeless_mbp | i'm traveling to london for the week, so i can't poke anything | 21:37 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: You are living in a well developed liberal socialist country. What can POSSIBLY go wrong? :) | 21:37 |
| crashanddie | http://www.dialogic.com/den/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/a5fcbcf8-1e80-4822-94e1-b1964334643b/boot.jpg | 21:37 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: ah, you'd be surprised what hides under the surface :P | 21:37 |
| crashanddie | most brits probably saw this ad | 21:37 |
| RST38h | Stskeeps: Few things surprise me any more | 21:37 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, that cynic? | 21:40 |
| RST38h | crash: yep. | 21:41 |
| RST38h | crash: In fact, I collect and savor epic fuckups, the more kafkian, the better =0 | 21:42 |
| derf | Kafkaesque? | 21:44 |
| RST38h | with a little more effort, we can stick even more letters there =) | 21:45 |
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| derf | http://iq.appspot.com/q/6624/37 | 21:48 |
| RST38h | that immediately reminds of Lingua::Romana::Perligata | 21:51 |
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| user__ | when extra is updated? dayly what time? weekly? | 22:33 |
| lcuk | as required | 22:34 |
| user__ | and any wiki or topic about a good way to update a .deb appli allready in extra? | 22:34 |
| user__ | i upload like the first one in extra upload browser page or other better way | 22:35 |
| qwerty12_N810 | the same way as was used to upload it the first time perhaps? | 22:35 |
| user__ | ok | 22:36 |
| user__ | cool | 22:36 |
| user__ | i make a rigth think | 22:36 |
| user__ | just like you said | 22:36 |
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| lcuk | anyone know how long does extras-devel upload take to run | 23:59 |
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