| Macer | well. my n95 got old quick | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| Macer | other than using the camera it kinda sucks | 00:00 |
| Macer | :) | 00:00 |
| qwerty12_N800 | jamiebennett: Though I'm curious as to where it's getting "w" from clean. What does run.sh consist of? (pastebin ;)) | 00:00 |
| Macer | think i'm going to ebay it | 00:00 |
| *** halves has quit IRC | 00:01 | |
| Macer | unless someone learns how to hack the radio in it so i can get on tmob 3G | 00:01 |
| Macer | which i am sure is more a physical problem | 00:01 |
| *** fab has quit IRC | 00:01 | |
| jamiebennett | qwerty12_N800: http://pastebin.com/m56e21ed7 | 00:01 |
| jamiebennett | ;) | 00:01 |
| *** ustunozgur has quit IRC | 00:05 | |
| *** ustunozgur has joined #maemo | 00:05 | |
| qwerty12_N800 | Hmm, looks sane enough imo... :/ | 00:05 |
| *** Omegamoon has quit IRC | 00:06 | |
| jamiebennett | qwerty12_N800: Giving up on debhelper at the moment and trying to package the other dependencies until I figure it out. | 00:06 |
| *** dougt_ has joined #maemo | 00:08 | |
| *** L0cutus has quit IRC | 00:10 | |
| *** tonikitoo has quit IRC | 00:12 | |
| lcuk | jamiebennett, isnt there rumblings that clutter wont be available for user apps | 00:12 |
| jamiebennett | lcuk Don't say that!!!! | 00:12 |
| jamiebennett | lcuk: where did you hear that? | 00:13 |
| lcuk | http://maemo.org/community/maemo-developers/clutter_in_fremantle-alpha_sdk/ | 00:13 |
| *** gomiam has quit IRC | 00:13 | |
| *** ustunozgur has quit IRC | 00:14 | |
| *** ustunozgur has joined #maemo | 00:14 | |
| *** booiiing has joined #maemo | 00:15 | |
| *** gomiam has joined #maemo | 00:16 | |
| jamiebennett | lcuk: Just read the thread and I'm not overly clear on the stance. I see there is a bit of hoop jumping to be done but it doesn't rule out clutter based user apps. | 00:17 |
| lcuk | heh @ a bit of hoop jumping | 00:18 |
| *** gomiam has quit IRC | 00:18 | |
| jamiebennett | lcuk: Killing the hildon-desktop | 00:18 |
| zakkm | jamiebennett: your planning it for fremantle? | 00:18 |
| zakkm | the OS that will only works on the new N900, which nobody seems to like so far from the leaked specs? ;p | 00:19 |
| jamiebennett | zakkm: No as it uses clutter and 3d effect's heavily. | 00:19 |
| lcuk | zakkm, its much loved actually | 00:19 |
| lcuk | theres many folks who are behind it wholeheartedly :) me included | 00:19 |
| roope | Well, I've heard from somewhere that the new device is actually rather nice. | 00:19 |
| roope | ;) | 00:19 |
| zakkm | when the leaked specs thingy came out, i remember alot of people complaining | 00:20 |
| lcuk | hiya roope | 00:20 |
| kkrusty | briefly what are the specs? | 00:20 |
| roope | Hi. | 00:20 |
| kkrusty | I recall the screen is smaller | 00:20 |
| * jamiebennett wonders why my scratchbox refuses to play ball. Permission denied now for installing new packages :( | 00:20 | |
| zakkm | is it chmod +x'd ? | 00:20 |
| lcuk | but then a lot of people would moan about anything right now | 00:20 |
| zakkm | it might not be set as executable | 00:20 |
| *** gomiam has joined #maemo | 00:21 | |
| zakkm | oh hah didnt read it all | 00:21 |
| lcuk | zakkm, your name does not have a capital letter. ALL NAMES MUST HAVE A CAPITAL LETTER AND ITS WRONG THAT THEY DO NOT | 00:21 |
| zakkm | whatt? | 00:21 |
| Macer | k9 is friggin broken | 00:21 |
| Macer | argh | 00:21 |
| *** zakkm is now known as Zakkm | 00:21 | |
| Zakkm | :D | 00:21 |
| Zakkm | lcuk ^ | 00:21 |
| * jamiebennett should probably give up for the night | 00:21 | |
| *** igagis has quit IRC | 00:22 | |
| lcuk | Zakkm, thats the mindset tho | 00:22 |
| *** L0cutus has joined #maemo | 00:22 | |
| lcuk | roope, enjoying the sunshine? | 00:22 |
| lcuk | and why werent you in copenhagen | 00:23 |
| roope | lcuk: Yes, nice sunshine. I wasn't invited there. :) But I'm probably (?) in Amsterdam then. | 00:23 |
| lcuk | balls :( | 00:23 |
| lcuk | i hope you are! | 00:23 |
| roope | So did you go there? | 00:24 |
| lcuk | yeah and i came away with a skeleton package for libliqbase | 00:24 |
| lcuk | did you see my wicked search for liqbase? :D | 00:24 |
| Zakkm | lcuk: whats with all the new stuff people are adding to extras? anthing nice? | 00:24 |
| roope | probably not yet. | 00:24 |
| *** kkrusty has left #maemo | 00:25 | |
| lcuk | Zakkm, i dunno | 00:25 |
| lcuk | theres good stuff i know :) | 00:25 |
| lcuk | roope, its really cool, the principle allows a screenful of widgets with lots of contents to be boiled down to a single item or set of matching items with very few keypresses | 00:26 |
| *** gomiam has quit IRC | 00:26 | |
| * lcuk is really impressed with it | 00:26 | |
| *** b-man16 is now known as b-man` | 00:26 | |
| Zakkm | lcuk: browser support ?:D | 00:26 |
| lcuk | its v raw at the moment but im in love with the idea and it fits with my global ops | 00:26 |
| lcuk | Zakkm, ? | 00:26 |
| *** gomiam has joined #maemo | 00:26 | |
| Zakkm | for liqbase? :P | 00:26 |
| Zakkm | in libliqbase | 00:27 |
| lcuk | not yet :) i still have to make people use limited html for it to work best | 00:27 |
| *** ustunozgur has quit IRC | 00:27 | |
| lcuk | webkit etal expect to render a big hard fast screenshot which is RGB | 00:27 |
| jamiebennett | maybe a silly question but how to you do anything as root in scratchbox environment? | 00:27 |
| lcuk | it would need converting | 00:27 |
| lcuk | to yuv | 00:28 |
| Zakkm | oh | 00:28 |
| Zakkm | starting to use liqbase nightly :P | 00:28 |
| lcuk | Zakkm, but each cell in liqbase can have its own color and font and background and the system can dynamically load images on demand.. | 00:28 |
| Zakkm | heh | 00:28 |
| lcuk | and i can layout as many as required | 00:28 |
| Zakkm | image viewer ? :D | 00:28 |
| lcuk | easy | 00:28 |
| lcuk | if you have the nightly theres a few | 00:28 |
| Zakkm | that reads from .images? | 00:29 |
| lcuk | fullscreen kinetics or zooming ones like i show in the videos | 00:29 |
| Zakkm | theres a nightly? | 00:29 |
| lcuk | .images? | 00:29 |
| Zakkm | images folder on nokia | 00:29 |
| lcuk | it scans /home/user/ and /media/mmc1 /media/mmc2 | 00:29 |
| Zakkm | .. /home/MyDocs/.images | 00:29 |
| lcuk | and just shows everything it finds | 00:29 |
| Zakkm | ahh /home/user/MyDocs | 00:29 |
| lcuk | Zakkm, scan is recursive | 00:29 |
| Zakkm | ah cool | 00:29 |
| lcuk | thats just a simple example | 00:30 |
| *** jamiebennett has quit IRC | 00:30 | |
| *** lfelipe is now known as lfelipe[AWAY] | 00:30 | |
| lcuk | theres about 40 or so things built up like that | 00:30 |
| *** Free_maN has quit IRC | 00:30 | |
| *** dl9pf has quit IRC | 00:30 | |
| Zakkm | lcuk: could it be built into a deb, the nightlys? | 00:31 |
| lcuk | if you wanna have a play around you can either find the public github repo or signup for a codebasehq account | 00:31 |
| *** Free_maN has joined #maemo | 00:31 | |
| lcuk | Zakkm, the very first package was created over the weekend | 00:31 |
| Zakkm | deb package? | 00:31 |
| lcuk | its gonna take a bit more time to iron out the problems with it, but yeah i see that happening v soon | 00:31 |
| lcuk | yeah | 00:31 |
| lcuk | its not published tho lol, its the framework for the package thats important | 00:31 |
| *** JamieBennett has joined #maemo | 00:31 | |
| lcuk | the package breaks many things | 00:31 |
| Zakkm | i was thinking if it could, i would take your git and make daily debs out of it and add to repo | 00:31 |
| Zakkm | like help you out with that | 00:32 |
| lcuk | ill be making that a standard part of my routine :) | 00:32 |
| lcuk | but your help would be appreciated cos no doubt ill forget lol | 00:32 |
| Zakkm | i couldnt help like actually coding, i dont know C or anything | 00:32 |
| *** flo_lap has joined #maemo | 00:32 | |
| lcuk | Zakkm, #liqbase is where most stuff is discussed now | 00:32 |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 00:33 | |
| *** flo_lap is now known as florian | 00:33 | |
| Zakkm | but getting git, maknig deb, uploading , i could do | 00:33 |
| *** croppa_ is now known as croppa | 00:40 | |
| *** ignacius has joined #maemo | 00:40 | |
| *** macmaN6789 has left #maemo | 00:41 | |
| *** wjs_ltop has quit IRC | 00:41 | |
| *** bilboed has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 00:44 | |
| *** melmoth has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** gomiam has quit IRC | 00:44 | |
| *** gomiam has joined #maemo | 00:45 | |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 00:46 | |
| *** wsuetholz has quit IRC | 00:49 | |
| *** skibur has quit IRC | 00:49 | |
| *** VDVsx has quit IRC | 00:51 | |
| *** lfelipe[AWAY] is now known as lfelipe | 00:54 | |
| *** hellwolf has quit IRC | 01:00 | |
| *** VDVsx has joined #maemo | 01:07 | |
| *** johnx has quit IRC | 01:07 | |
| *** mardi__ has quit IRC | 01:09 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has joined #maemo | 01:12 | |
| *** lmoura has quit IRC | 01:12 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has quit IRC | 01:12 | |
| *** blade_runner has quit IRC | 01:15 | |
| *** radic has joined #maemo | 01:15 | |
| *** stv01 has quit IRC | 01:15 | |
| *** radic has quit IRC | 01:17 | |
| *** wsuetholz has joined #maemo | 01:17 | |
| *** rsalveti has quit IRC | 01:20 | |
| *** stv0 has joined #maemo | 01:21 | |
| *** danilocesar has quit IRC | 01:23 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has joined #maemo | 01:25 | |
| *** chenca has quit IRC | 01:27 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 01:28 | |
| *** hellwolf-n810 has joined #maemo | 01:29 | |
| *** timeless_mbp_ has joined #maemo | 01:29 | |
| Macer | blah | 01:32 |
| *** timeless_mbp_ has quit IRC | 01:33 | |
| *** greentux_ has quit IRC | 01:33 | |
| *** mardi__ has joined #maemo | 01:35 | |
| *** Pustelnik has quit IRC | 01:36 | |
| *** timeless_mbp_ has joined #maemo | 01:36 | |
| *** Pustelnik has joined #maemo | 01:36 | |
| *** Pustelnik is now known as Guest9162 | 01:36 | |
| *** RzR is now known as rZr | 01:36 | |
| *** radic has joined #maemo | 01:36 | |
| *** glima is now known as glima[AWAY] | 01:37 | |
| *** aloisiojr has quit IRC | 01:37 | |
| *** k-s is now known as k-s[AWAY] | 01:37 | |
| *** wsuetholz has quit IRC | 01:37 | |
| *** fiferboy_n810 has joined #maemo | 01:40 | |
| *** Free_maN has quit IRC | 01:40 | |
| *** simon_ has quit IRC | 01:42 | |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 01:42 | |
| *** gomiam has quit IRC | 01:45 | |
| *** ignacius has quit IRC | 01:46 | |
| *** stv0 has left #maemo | 01:49 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has quit IRC | 01:53 | |
| *** vivijim has quit IRC | 01:54 | |
| *** zimmerle has quit IRC | 02:00 | |
| *** L0cutus has quit IRC | 02:05 | |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 02:12 | |
| *** torkiano has joined #maemo | 02:17 | |
| *** lbt has joined #maemo | 02:17 | |
| *** abner has quit IRC | 02:17 | |
| *** FilipLinux4BE has left #maemo | 02:18 | |
| *** brolin has joined #maemo | 02:18 | |
| *** fiferboy_n810 has left #maemo | 02:22 | |
| *** krau has quit IRC | 02:29 | |
| *** t_s_o has joined #maemo | 02:29 | |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 02:31 | |
| GeneralAntilles | VDVsx, pong? | 02:33 |
| VDVsx | GeneralAntilles, did you tried to install the ovi store app in your 5800 | 02:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | VDVsx, yes, it worked | 02:35 |
| GeneralAntilles | But it's slow to browse and the selection sucks. | 02:35 |
| VDVsx | on my device I got a lot of WRT/java error in the startup screen, lol | 02:36 |
| *** Jalen has joined #maemo | 02:39 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Nice | 02:40 |
| *** TimRiker has quit IRC | 02:40 | |
| VDVsx | GeneralAntilles, I'm not the only one, lol: http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=592631 | 02:41 |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 02:41 | |
| *** rapadura_man has joined #maemo | 02:52 | |
| *** Jalen64 has quit IRC | 02:54 | |
| *** VDVsx has quit IRC | 02:55 | |
| *** vingtetun has quit IRC | 03:00 | |
| *** brolin has quit IRC | 03:01 | |
| *** alex-weej has quit IRC | 03:07 | |
| *** dougt_ has quit IRC | 03:10 | |
| *** dougt_ has joined #maemo | 03:10 | |
| *** christefano has joined #maemo | 03:13 | |
| *** pvanhoof has quit IRC | 03:14 | |
| *** zimmerle has joined #maemo | 03:18 | |
| *** pygc has quit IRC | 03:20 | |
| *** christefano has quit IRC | 03:20 | |
| *** christefano has joined #maemo | 03:21 | |
| *** christefano has quit IRC | 03:25 | |
| *** rapadura_man has left #maemo | 03:25 | |
| *** christefano has joined #maemo | 03:26 | |
| *** KurtKraut has joined #maemo | 03:26 | |
| Noma | does anybody know if Despotify has been ported to maemo? | 03:26 |
| *** GAN800 has joined #maemo | 03:27 | |
| *** dougt_ has quit IRC | 03:27 | |
| *** dougt_ has joined #maemo | 03:27 | |
| Noma | apparently yes | 03:29 |
| *** myosound has joined #maemo | 03:29 | |
| *** skibur has joined #maemo | 03:29 | |
| Zakkm | Noma: http://unntaket.net/gspotify/ <-- need premium though apparently | 03:30 |
| Noma | Yep, just found it myself also:) | 03:30 |
| Noma | if it works well, the premium account is not a problem - that amount of music "in my pocket" for 9,90e/month sounds good | 03:31 |
| Zakkm | you'd still need wifi though | 03:32 |
| *** torkiano has quit IRC | 03:32 | |
| Zakkm | your better off with vagalume for free? :P | 03:32 |
| *** brut- has joined #maemo | 03:32 | |
| Noma | bluetooth+3g on phone:) | 03:32 |
| Noma | what's vagalume?:) | 03:33 |
| Zakkm | heh 3g is expensive | 03:33 |
| Zakkm | vagalume is a nice gtk player on the tablet.. uses last.fm | 03:33 |
| Zakkm | which is free | 03:33 |
| Noma | well, 10e/month for unlimited 3g ain't that expensive from my point of view :p | 03:33 |
| Noma | sounds interesting | 03:33 |
| Zakkm | wow | 03:33 |
| Zakkm | where do you live? | 03:33 |
| Zakkm | and that allows tethering to nokia? | 03:34 |
| Noma | Finland | 03:34 |
| Noma | yep | 03:34 |
| Zakkm | cool | 03:34 |
| *** b-man` has quit IRC | 03:35 | |
| *** myosound_ has joined #maemo | 03:35 | |
| *** myosound has quit IRC | 03:36 | |
| Noma | E71 and N810 work very well together anyway, N810 is always immediately connected to internet when in range with E71:) | 03:36 |
| Zakkm | wow | 03:36 |
| *** b-man16 has joined #maemo | 03:37 | |
| *** brolin has joined #maemo | 03:38 | |
| hub | Noma: for 10EUR we get 1MB here | 03:42 |
| Zakkm | you get about 200mb with that here | 03:42 |
| Zakkm | 10eur a month | 03:42 |
| Zakkm | and im in toronto, canada -.- | 03:42 |
| hub | Zakkm: that's what I meant | 03:42 |
| Zakkm | its ridicious | 03:43 |
| hub | it is monopoly | 03:43 |
| Zakkm | have a friend that pays like 70-80euro and he gets like 5gb | 03:43 |
| Noma | normal price for 384kbps speed with unlimited data is 9,90e/month in finland with every operator | 03:43 |
| Zakkm | i wonder if lcuk uses that :P | 03:44 |
| Noma | unlimited speed and unlimited data is like 30e/month | 03:44 |
| Noma | but i've managed to get over 1mbps speeds with that 384kbps also, their limiters are not working very well :p | 03:45 |
| *** brolin has quit IRC | 03:46 | |
| hub | here it cost you $60 for a 6GB plan and that requires you to have "bought" the locked phone | 03:46 |
| hub | and because they are a monopoly there is no choice | 03:47 |
| Noma | how much do the not-mobile broadbands cost there? | 03:47 |
| hub | 45$ for 4Mbit ADSL with caps | 03:48 |
| hub | from 60 to 200GB | 03:48 |
| hub | and very bad service | 03:48 |
| *** brankinhu has joined #maemo | 03:48 | |
| Zakkm | hub: where are you living? | 03:48 |
| hub | (ADSL is controlled by another monopoly) | 03:48 |
| hub | Zakkm: in canada | 03:48 |
| Zakkm | where abouts? | 03:48 |
| hub | Zakkm: how does that matter? | 03:48 |
| *** eichi has joined #maemo | 03:49 | |
| Zakkm | nunavut has very different internet than edmonton :P | 03:49 |
| hub | it is the same cross-country | 03:49 |
| Noma | I've got 30Mbit adsl with no caps and i pay 40e/month for that | 03:49 |
| Zakkm | :O | 03:49 |
| Zakkm | 30mbit | 03:49 |
| Zakkm | 30! | 03:49 |
| *** wsuetholz has joined #maemo | 03:49 | |
| Zakkm | i have 3mbit at home :) | 03:49 |
| Zakkm | with 60gb a monnth cap | 03:49 |
| hub | Zakkm: neither. I'd not live in Texas or in the frakkin' middle of nowhere | 03:49 |
| lcuk | Zakkm, i dont live in finland | 03:49 |
| hub | Zakkm: thanks to Bell | 03:49 |
| Zakkm | lcuk: where do you live? | 03:50 |
| lcuk | england | 03:50 |
| Zakkm | ohh | 03:50 |
| Zakkm | whos in finland then? | 03:50 |
| hub | even england has a better service than here | 03:50 |
| Zakkm | england has amazing service :) | 03:50 |
| hub | and they don't seem to be lucky with BT | 03:50 |
| lcuk | nokia.* employees (ok a few exceptions lol) | 03:50 |
| Zakkm | lcuk: you know if you switch your user agent to sfari, your suppose to get free wifi in the uk? | 03:50 |
| lcuk | not in my neighbourhood i wont | 03:51 |
| Zakkm | ah | 03:51 |
| Zakkm | its suppose to be highly over-the-air though | 03:51 |
| lcuk | yeah wifi has that property | 03:51 |
| Noma | a friend of mine has 100/100Mbit connection at home for just 25e/month | 03:54 |
| lcuk | i have 55mbit wifi at home for free | 03:54 |
| lcuk | connecting to the internet costs more tho | 03:54 |
| Noma | :) | 03:55 |
| Zakkm | 55mbit!? | 03:55 |
| Zakkm | how you guys so lucky | 03:55 |
| Zakkm | i only have 3mbit | 03:55 |
| lcuk | i dont know how fast the internet connection is | 03:55 |
| lcuk | i think its 50 | 03:56 |
| Noma | www.speedtest.net is good for finding that out | 03:56 |
| Zakkm | thats bad | 03:56 |
| luke-jr | Zakkm: that sucks | 03:56 |
| lcuk | anyway gnite | 03:56 |
| luke-jr | even in the USA, which has crap for broadband, we have 12mbit for $45/mo | 03:57 |
| Zakkm | well we only pay like $20 a month mind you | 03:57 |
| Zakkm | lcuk: 12quid? :P | 03:57 |
| Zakkm | but yeah its not so bad, it lets me download what i want | 03:57 |
| hub | luke-jr: canada is badly influenced by the southern neighbour | 03:58 |
| *** b-man16 has quit IRC | 03:58 | |
| Zakkm | nooo ;p | 03:58 |
| Zakkm | theres no influence :D | 03:58 |
| luke-jr | Canada is simply a lost cause in general | 03:58 |
| Zakkm | luke-jr: what are you talking about, do you live here? | 03:58 |
| hub | Zakkm: there is, all the bad things | 03:58 |
| luke-jr | Zakkm: I wouldn't live there if you paid me | 03:58 |
| Zakkm | Canada??? | 03:58 |
| luke-jr | as terrible as the USA is, Canada is worse | 03:58 |
| Zakkm | you'd rather live in the US? | 03:58 |
| hub | Zakkm: including the cons, the corporate monopolies. etc | 03:58 |
| Zakkm | i would never want to live in the US right now | 03:59 |
| hub | luke-jr: at least canada does not treat their visitors like criminals | 03:59 |
| hub | luke-jr: and at least try to take care of their people | 03:59 |
| Zakkm | the recession has destroyed the US | 03:59 |
| luke-jr | Canada will put people in jail for speaking out against perversion | 03:59 |
| Zakkm | all my US buddies are screwed right now looking for work | 03:59 |
| hub | Zakkm: like it didn't hurt here | 03:59 |
| hub | Zakkm: same here mind you | 03:59 |
| hub | Zakkm: unless you work for the govt | 03:59 |
| luke-jr | bbl | 04:00 |
| hub | luke-jr: ahah. and the US execute people | 04:00 |
| |R | heh | 04:00 |
| luke-jr | hub: not nearly enough | 04:00 |
| *** x29a_ has joined #maemo | 04:00 | |
| hub | that's fortunately something they didn't pick here | 04:00 |
| Zakkm | i have to goto philidephia in august, and i fear for my life when i go there | 04:00 |
| hub | Zakkm: why do you go then? | 04:00 |
| Zakkm | cause i have to visit someone | 04:01 |
| hub | "have to"? | 04:01 |
| Zakkm | hah | 04:01 |
| Zakkm | want to / have to.. | 04:01 |
| hub | then don't complain if you made the choice | 04:01 |
| Noma | but both US and Canada have at least one priviledge compared to Finland - you don't have to watch NHL games in the middle of the night :p | 04:01 |
| *** EdLin has joined #maemo | 04:01 | |
| Zakkm | im making the choice, but it doesnt mean im not scared | 04:01 |
| Zakkm | ? | 04:01 |
| Zakkm | i have never seen a NHL game in my entire life | 04:01 |
| hub | Noma: given the lenght of Finland's nights, it is not a reference | 04:02 |
| Zakkm | i dont even know how to play | 04:02 |
| |R | lucky you | 04:02 |
| |R | :) | 04:02 |
| |R | I'm in Montreal, it's hard to escape hockey fever | 04:02 |
| Zakkm | :D | 04:02 |
| Zakkm | i was there in march :D | 04:02 |
| Zakkm | sweet 18th birthday hah | 04:02 |
| hub | Noma: and FWIW, it is usually night when they start | 04:02 |
| Zakkm | can legally drink there :p | 04:02 |
| Zakkm | went to some sick ass casino too | 04:02 |
| hub | |R: it is gold season now for you | 04:02 |
| *** zimmerle has left #maemo | 04:02 | |
| Noma | hub: it's 4 am now here, and it's very bright outside :p | 04:02 |
| Zakkm | heh i love that :P | 04:02 |
| |R | hub: Gold season? :) | 04:03 |
| Zakkm | i always wanted 24/7 of darkness :D | 04:03 |
| hub | |R: oops, I meant GOLF | 04:03 |
| |R | Zakkm: yeah, it's pretty funny to meet americans in bars at 18 killing their brain and brafing in the street à 20h | 04:03 |
| hub | |R: what they do after being finished with hocker | 04:03 |
| |R | s/à/at/ ;P | 04:03 |
| |R | haha :) | 04:03 |
| *** dougt_ has quit IRC | 04:03 | |
| Zakkm | yeah my two brothers took me, one of them knew the area well though, my other never been | 04:03 |
| Zakkm | im not american, im canadian :P | 04:04 |
| Zakkm | im in toronto | 04:04 |
| hub | Zakkm: see, you even pick up the "american way" of "drinking age" | 04:04 |
| Zakkm | american is a insult :P | 04:04 |
| |R | Zakkm: it's 19 there right? | 04:04 |
| Zakkm | yeah | 04:04 |
| Zakkm | 18 in quebec, 19 in ontario :D | 04:04 |
| |R | hehe :) | 04:04 |
| hub | |R: and they have to go to a beer store | 04:04 |
| hub | I just go to the gas station | 04:04 |
| Zakkm | yeah | 04:04 |
| hub | (when I have money) | 04:04 |
| Zakkm | heh | 04:04 |
| |R | hub: in ontario? | 04:04 |
| Zakkm | i have friends and such :P | 04:04 |
| |R | hehe, not in quebec :) | 04:04 |
| Zakkm | yeah | 04:04 |
| Zakkm | in ontario, its only 3 stores you can get beer ;p | 04:04 |
| hub | |R: beer store, in ontario | 04:04 |
| |R | but fuck do we pay taxes! | 04:05 |
| Zakkm | in montreal, you can get everywhereee | 04:05 |
| hub | |R: if Quebec had to go through beer store, nobody would drink | 04:05 |
| *** radic_ has joined #maemo | 04:05 | |
| |R | when i go to europe and you get 1.5L sangria bottle for 2E... here it's 20$ | 04:05 |
| |R | haha :) | 04:05 |
| Zakkm | heh | 04:05 |
| Zakkm | cheap alcohol | 04:05 |
| hub | |R: don't get me started | 04:05 |
| Zakkm | usually a bottle here is like $1.20 ? | 04:05 |
| Noma | |R: that depends on country:) | 04:05 |
| |R | Noma: yeah i know :) | 04:05 |
| Zakkm | also have to think about money and such | 04:06 |
| Zakkm | wages, living expenses and such | 04:06 |
| |R | i've got family in .fr and .cz and there it's quite cheap (as well in spain and germany i think) | 04:06 |
| Zakkm | dont drink that much to make it matter | 04:06 |
| Noma | we were once on a school trip to poland, and our one night bar budget was the same as average students one month income | 04:07 |
| Noma | in poland | 04:07 |
| Zakkm | heh expensive :P | 04:07 |
| |R | Are you in Helsinki? | 04:07 |
| Noma | nope, in Tampere | 04:07 |
| |R | Haven't been north yet in europe, next time... :) | 04:08 |
| Noma | Zakkm: a pint of beer costs like 0,4 euros there | 04:08 |
| *** halves has joined #maemo | 04:08 | |
| Noma | or at least it did four years ago | 04:08 |
| hub | Prague with cheap beer... mmmm | 04:08 |
| hub | that was awesome | 04:08 |
| |R | yeah, 1$ per pint :) | 04:08 |
| hub | exactly | 04:08 |
| hub | had a team meeting there in 2007 | 04:08 |
| *** wsuetholz has quit IRC | 04:09 | |
| |R | I'm going 3 weeks this summer (among other places) and, yeah, woohoo! ;) | 04:09 |
| Noma | in Finland it's 2,5e at cheapest | 04:09 |
| |R | in Montreal, for a pint, uhm... 5$ ? | 04:09 |
| |R | (at best, usually more around 6) | 04:09 |
| *** wsuetholz has joined #maemo | 04:10 | |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 04:10 | |
| Zakkm | you guys saying bar or buying for home? | 04:11 |
| *** dougt has joined #maemo | 04:11 | |
| |R | bars | 04:11 |
| |R | home is around 1-1.5$/bottle | 04:11 |
| |R | unless you go extravaganza of course :) | 04:11 |
| Zakkm | ;o | 04:12 |
| Zakkm | pint = big glass right? | 04:12 |
| |R | 0.5L | 04:12 |
| Zakkm | like theres bottle then pint? | 04:12 |
| |R | bottle = 341 ml | 04:12 |
| Zakkm | sorry im new at this | 04:12 |
| Noma | for home it's about 1e/0,33l bottle in finland | 04:12 |
| Zakkm | ahh | 04:12 |
| Zakkm | maybe $2.99 here? | 04:12 |
| |R | 33cl for europeans :P | 04:12 |
| hub | |R: 22$ for a 24 | 04:12 |
| Zakkm | that just means ayou guys drink more eh? | 04:12 |
| |R | (we have stupid units here, it's metric but based on deprecated imperial standards (/me ducks)) | 04:12 |
| hub | |R: that because of the americans | 04:13 |
| hub | |R: they can' | 04:13 |
| |R | yeah, or the english, depending how far you go back :) | 04:13 |
| hub | |R: the can't re-learn it | 04:13 |
| Zakkm | so you guys drink alot? | 04:13 |
| |R | when i can :P | 04:13 |
| |R | hehe, it all depends ;) | 04:13 |
| hub | |R: no. it is still somewhat mapped in the american units because of uniformisation of containers and products | 04:14 |
| |R | hub: yep | 04:14 |
| hub | |R: officially canada use A4 paper. but nobody sells it... | 04:14 |
| Zakkm | a4 = 8.5x11 ? | 04:14 |
| |R | well, they use it for government paper in quebec i think and for legal papers (lawyers) | 04:14 |
| |R | 8.5x14 | 04:14 |
| Zakkm | eww | 04:14 |
| |R | but you can buy it anywhere | 04:14 |
| Zakkm | nobody uses that | 04:14 |
| |R | FutureShop or BureauEnGros has them | 04:15 |
| Zakkm | 8.5x11 = everythingg | 04:15 |
| Zakkm | you can get bigger of course | 04:15 |
| Zakkm | but you dont see it | 04:15 |
| |R | it's the european standard | 04:15 |
| Noma | in finland a4 is everywhere | 04:15 |
| Noma | if you want any other size, you really have to search | 04:15 |
| |R | which actually is a lot more intelligently conceived | 04:15 |
| Zakkm | like obviously if you go paper shopping you will see it.. but if someone hands you a flyer, or you get a sheet in school... its ALWAYS 8.5x11 | 04:15 |
| |R | A3 = 2 * A4 | 04:15 |
| hub | no | 04:15 |
| hub | A4 = 210x297mm | 04:15 |
| hub | A3 is 420x297 | 04:15 |
| hub | and so on | 04:15 |
| hub | A0 is one square meter | 04:15 |
| hub | with the same ratio in demensions | 04:15 |
| |R | A2 = 2 * A3 | 04:15 |
| |R | etc | 04:15 |
| hub | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216 | 04:15 |
| hub | |R: it is an ISO standard | 04:16 |
| Noma | 1:sqrt(2) is the width/length ratio | 04:16 |
| Zakkm | yeahhh A4 = 8.5x11 pretty much | 04:16 |
| Noma | of the A4 -paper | 04:16 |
| *** x29a has quit IRC | 04:16 | |
| hub | |R: legal is not A4 | 04:16 |
| Noma | and all that standard papers | 04:16 |
| *** flux has quit IRC | 04:16 | |
| hub | legal is a long letter | 04:16 |
| *** flux has joined #maemo | 04:16 | |
| hub | Zakkm: no. | 04:16 |
| hub | Zakkm: A4 is NOT the same size | 04:16 |
| Zakkm | says 8.3x11.7 | 04:16 |
| Zakkm | thats the closet ;p | 04:16 |
| |R | uhm oops | 04:17 |
| Noma | A4 is 210x297mm | 04:17 |
| *** vingtetun has joined #maemo | 04:17 | |
| Noma | 8.3x11.7 in inches | 04:17 |
| hub | Zakkm: closest does not mean the same | 04:17 |
| hub | Zakkm: try to feed that to your printer | 04:17 |
| hub | PC Load Letter | 04:17 |
| |R | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_size_illustration2_with_letter_and_legal.svg | 04:18 |
| *** dieb_ is now known as dieb^afk | 04:18 | |
| *** myosound_ has quit IRC | 04:19 | |
| Firebird | :O what consumer grade printer accepts A0 | 04:19 |
| |R | big plotters i guess hehe | 04:19 |
| hub | Firebird: none. people use A4 :-) | 04:20 |
| hub | some support A3 | 04:20 |
| Firebird | I'd love to do poster printing at home | 04:20 |
| *** mardi__ has quit IRC | 04:21 | |
| *** trofi has quit IRC | 04:21 | |
| *** trofi has joined #maemo | 04:21 | |
| Noma | I have a big home made poster on my wall, it just consists of 12 A4's :p | 04:21 |
| *** mardi__ has joined #maemo | 04:21 | |
| *** mavhc has quit IRC | 04:21 | |
| *** mavhc has joined #maemo | 04:21 | |
| *** radic has quit IRC | 04:22 | |
| Noma | Rasterbator is very good program for that: http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/ | 04:22 |
| *** dougt_ has joined #maemo | 04:24 | |
| *** vingtetun has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** t_s_o has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Macer has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** lardman|gone has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** fnordianslip has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** lopz has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Pavlov has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** biiter has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** else58 has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Hirvinen has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Ave has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** ds3 has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** oli has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** mardi__ has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** dougt has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Jalen has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Vulcanis has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** nslu2-log has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** keesj has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** fysa has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** disq has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** onion has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** t5vaha01 has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** aquatix has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** asedeno has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** mlog has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Firehand has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** cmug has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** sneakret has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** kulve has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Proteous has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** tobmaster has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** dev has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** moimart has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** thux has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** hub has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** vcgomes has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Dasajev has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** andrunko has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** locutus has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** nomis has quit IRC | 04:25 | |
| *** Myrtti has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** flux has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** eichi has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** dforsyth has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** stiev3 has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** RXrenesis8 has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** ccooke has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** hap has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** hub has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Proteous has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** tobmaster has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** dev has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** moimart has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** thux has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** vcgomes has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Dasajev has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** andrunko has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** locutus has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** nomis has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** brankinhu has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** mardi__ has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Jalen has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Vulcanis has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** nslu2-log has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** cmug has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** keesj has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** fysa has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** disq has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** onion has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** t5vaha01 has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** sneakret has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** mlog has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Firehand has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** asedeno has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** kulve has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** aquatix has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** vingtetun has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** t_s_o has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Macer has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** lardman|gone has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** fnordianslip has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** lopz has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Pavlov has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** biiter has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** else58 has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Ave has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** ds3 has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Hirvinen has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** oli has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** wjt has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** t0h has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** zer0mdq has quit IRC | 04:26 | |
| *** flux has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** eichi has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** dforsyth has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** RXrenesis8 has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** ccooke has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** hap has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** Myrtti has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** wjt has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** t0h has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** zer0mdq has joined #maemo | 04:26 | |
| *** wsuetholz has quit IRC | 04:27 | |
| *** glima[AWAY] is now known as glima | 04:40 | |
| *** Sargun has joined #maemo | 04:45 | |
| *** rsalveti has joined #maemo | 04:45 | |
| *** dougt has joined #maemo | 04:46 | |
| *** dougt has quit IRC | 04:47 | |
| *** dougt_ has quit IRC | 04:47 | |
| *** vingtetun has left #maemo | 04:52 | |
| *** wsuetholz has joined #maemo | 04:54 | |
| *** halves has quit IRC | 04:59 | |
| *** t_s_o has quit IRC | 04:59 | |
| *** hasabba has quit IRC | 05:02 | |
| *** wsuetholz has quit IRC | 05:03 | |
| *** pupnik__ has quit IRC | 05:04 | |
| *** b-man16 has joined #maemo | 05:04 | |
| *** wsuetholz has joined #maemo | 05:05 | |
| *** hasabba has joined #maemo | 05:06 | |
| wsuetholz | Every so often the desktop disappears, is this a known issue with the current release? | 05:08 |
| Zakkm | release of what? | 05:08 |
| wsuetholz | Maemo OS2008 | 05:09 |
| Zakkm | it disappears? | 05:09 |
| Zakkm | 43-7? | 05:09 |
| wsuetholz | Yes the icons on the left disappear and the task switcher doesn't work | 05:10 |
| *** Sargun has quit IRC | 05:11 | |
| CutMeOwnThroat | where does it go? | 05:12 |
| *** rapadura_man has joined #maemo | 05:12 | |
| wsuetholz | Think it's 43-7 if thats the latest from Nokia | 05:12 |
| *** rapadura_man has left #maemo | 05:12 | |
| *** Pebby_ has quit IRC | 05:16 | |
| *** sin18 has joined #maemo | 05:21 | |
| *** b-man` has joined #maemo | 05:22 | |
| GeneralAntilles | wsuetholz, desktop crash. | 05:24 |
| *** Ryback_ has quit IRC | 05:24 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Either one of the applets you're using it is bringing it down or you're using a Bluetooth keyboard | 05:24 |
| Zakkm | GeneralAntilles: bluetooth keyboards kill it, wouldnt that defeat the purpose? | 05:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | Zakkm, only rarely upon reconnect. | 05:26 |
| Zakkm | thats terrible | 05:26 |
| Zakkm | and i was thinking of geting a bt one too | 05:26 |
| GeneralAntilles | Meh | 05:28 |
| *** Oro has joined #maemo | 05:29 | |
| *** Oro has left #maemo | 05:29 | |
| *** Sargun has joined #maemo | 05:29 | |
| *** eichi_ has joined #maemo | 05:30 | |
| *** Sho_ has quit IRC | 05:31 | |
| *** b-man16 has quit IRC | 05:33 | |
| Zakkm | GeneralAntilles: i hatee n800 osk, well more than all other devices but i purely love physical keyboards and i need for school | 05:34 |
| *** eichi has quit IRC | 05:34 | |
| hub | Zakkm: that's why I use a Thinkpad: the keyboard | 05:34 |
| luke-jr | I miss the Zaurus keyboard :< | 05:39 |
| hub | I have a N800 and I get furstrated everytime | 05:40 |
| hub | and no brownie point for whoever decided to surround the screen with a bezel | 05:40 |
| hub | bevel I mean | 05:40 |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 05:43 | |
| ljp | protects the screen from scratches | 05:45 |
| hub | and protect the fingers from touching the edges | 05:46 |
| hub | .... | 05:46 |
| hub | making the finger keyboard unusable | 05:46 |
| *** rkirti has joined #maemo | 05:46 | |
| Firebird | isn't the small keyboard the stylus keyboard and not the finger keyboard? | 05:48 |
| Firebird | the fullscreen finger keyboard is totally usable with the bevel | 05:48 |
| *** EdLin_ has joined #maemo | 05:48 | |
| Zakkm | stylus keyboard sucks, finger is aweseome, but i cant use it for long | 05:49 |
| Zakkm | some strange OCD :P | 05:49 |
| *** EdLin has quit IRC | 05:50 | |
| *** EdLin_ is now known as EdLin | 05:50 | |
| hub | Firebird: it is not for me | 05:52 |
| hub | Firebird: but obviously you don't have my fingers | 05:53 |
| hub | also most of the action could be done with fingers | 05:53 |
| hub | including closing windows... | 05:53 |
| hub | if the bevel wasn't here | 05:53 |
| *** pcfe` has joined #maemo | 05:54 | |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 05:58 | |
| *** pcfe has quit IRC | 06:01 | |
| *** b-man` is now known as b-man16 | 06:02 | |
| *** glima is now known as glima[AWAY] | 06:07 | |
| *** Bobbe has quit IRC | 06:09 | |
| *** pcfe` is now known as pcfe | 06:10 | |
| *** tonikitoo has joined #maemo | 06:24 | |
| *** rkirti has quit IRC | 06:26 | |
| *** rkirti has joined #maemo | 06:28 | |
| *** sin18 has quit IRC | 06:30 | |
| *** Vulcanis has quit IRC | 06:37 | |
| *** thekondor has joined #maemo | 06:39 | |
| *** lcuk2 has joined #maemo | 06:39 | |
| *** GeneralAntilles has quit IRC | 06:41 | |
| *** b-man16 has quit IRC | 06:46 | |
| *** eichi_ has quit IRC | 06:50 | |
| *** GAN8001 has joined #maemo | 06:52 | |
| *** GAN8001 is now known as GeneralAntilles | 06:53 | |
| hub | how do you guys type text with the laptop keyboard in the SDK Xephyr session... | 06:54 |
| hub | <RETURN> is eaten by the input method... | 06:55 |
| Macer | in vietnam they based victory on the body count ratio :) | 06:56 |
| *** lcuk has quit IRC | 06:57 | |
| *** gentooer has joined #maemo | 07:00 | |
| *** Firebird has quit IRC | 07:04 | |
| *** KurtKraut has quit IRC | 07:08 | |
| *** ktk_ has joined #maemo | 07:08 | |
| *** mib_6a047i has joined #maemo | 07:11 | |
| *** ciroip has quit IRC | 07:14 | |
| *** ciroip has joined #maemo | 07:15 | |
| *** tonikitoo has quit IRC | 07:16 | |
| mib_6a047i | i want to devolop handwriting recognization.if i use c++,how should i do. is there anybody who can give me a tip? | 07:16 |
| *** ciroip has quit IRC | 07:16 | |
| *** gentooer has quit IRC | 07:17 | |
| *** |thunder has quit IRC | 07:18 | |
| *** |thunder has joined #maemo | 07:18 | |
| *** trofi has quit IRC | 07:19 | |
| *** tonikitoo has joined #maemo | 07:20 | |
| Zakkm | mib_6a047i: handwriting recognization is done on the tablet itself | 07:23 |
| Zakkm | what would the app exactly do? | 07:23 |
| *** Summeli has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** ktk_ has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** EdLin has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** hasabba has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** radic_ has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** brut- has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** n6pfk has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** sphenxes03 has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** LiraNuna has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** iamlindoro has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** jgoss has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** toggles_w has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** cyndis has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** dlmarti has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** lpotter has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** Robot101 has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** ijon_ has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** pyhimys has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** Corsac has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** nikosapi has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** imhotep has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** mk500 has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** cosmo has quit IRC | 07:31 | |
| *** Zakkm has left #maemo | 07:32 | |
| *** cyndis has joined #maemo | 07:33 | |
| *** KurtKraut has joined #maemo | 07:33 | |
| *** hasabba has joined #maemo | 07:34 | |
| *** nikosapi has joined #maemo | 07:35 | |
| *** toggles_w has joined #maemo | 07:35 | |
| *** Corsac has joined #maemo | 07:35 | |
| *** Robot101 has joined #maemo | 07:35 | |
| *** LiraNuna has joined #maemo | 07:35 | |
| *** brut- has joined #maemo | 07:35 | |
| *** imhotep has joined #maemo | 07:35 | |
| *** pyhimys has joined #maemo | 07:35 | |
| *** ktk_ has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** EdLin has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** radic_ has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** n6pfk has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** iamlindoro has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** sphenxes03 has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** jgoss has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** dlmarti has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** lpotter has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** ijon_ has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** mk500 has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** Summeli has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** cosmo has joined #maemo | 07:37 | |
| *** sphenxes03 has quit IRC | 07:38 | |
| *** cosmo has quit IRC | 07:38 | |
| *** sphenxes03 has joined #maemo | 07:39 | |
| *** Summeli has quit IRC | 07:41 | |
| *** Summeli has joined #maemo | 07:41 | |
| *** cosmo has joined #maemo | 07:43 | |
| *** robtaylor has quit IRC | 07:44 | |
| *** robtaylor has joined #maemo | 07:49 | |
| *** ktk_ has quit IRC | 07:50 | |
| *** Guest9162 is now known as Pustelnik | 07:52 | |
| *** zakkm has joined #maemo | 08:01 | |
| zakkm | :( i cant remember my maemo talk account password ;p | 08:20 |
| *** _acyd_ has quit IRC | 08:22 | |
| *** _BuBU has joined #Maemo | 08:31 | |
| LiraNuna | zakkm, try 123456 | 08:38 |
| skibur | is ubuntu on the N800 fast? | 08:42 |
| mib_6a047i | zakkm,do you have handwritting recognization sample? | 08:43 |
| mib_6a047i | it only have vitural keyboard. | 08:44 |
| zakkm | LiraNuna: wow i havent seen you in awhile | 08:45 |
| hub | skibur: why would you want to run ubuntu on the N800 | 08:45 |
| zakkm | mib_6a047i: you click on the arrow in right corner, and change to handwritten | 08:45 |
| LiraNuna | zakkm, yeah I'm rather busy lately | 08:45 |
| zakkm | hub: you will have full access to ubuntu repositories, rather than just maemo.. which is alot larger | 08:46 |
| *** simon_ has joined #maemo | 08:46 | |
| hub | zakkm: but you don't even have the space to install them | 08:46 |
| hub | zakkm: so no point | 08:46 |
| skibur | trying something different | 08:46 |
| *** timeless_mbp_ is now known as timeless_mbp | 08:46 | |
| skibur | I have diablo and Debian | 08:46 |
| zakkm | hub: of course you do? | 08:46 |
| zakkm | hub: n800 you can have like 64gb? | 08:47 |
| mib_6a047i | maybe i shoud have a look | 08:47 |
| *** mardi__ has left #maemo | 08:48 | |
| zakkm | mib_6a047i: when the virtual keyboard pops up, you can switch to handwritten | 08:48 |
| hub | zakkm: was that a question? | 08:49 |
| zakkm | skibur: deblet? | 08:49 |
| zakkm | yeah its a question by what do you mean by "you dont even have the space to install them" ? | 08:49 |
| skibur | easy deb | 08:49 |
| skibur | with Lxde | 08:49 |
| zakkm | heh thats quite slow method :p | 08:50 |
| zakkm | skibur: you could dualboot and have mer, and install lxde in mer ;p | 08:50 |
| skibur | mer? | 08:51 |
| zakkm | never heard of it? | 08:51 |
| skibur | nope | 08:51 |
| zakkm | ~mer | 08:51 |
| infobot | [mer] http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer | 08:51 |
| zakkm | cool it worked | 08:51 |
| skibur | i have clone, imaged, on my tablet | 08:51 |
| LiraNuna | http://pastie.org/497505 | 08:51 |
| skibur | ok | 08:51 |
| zakkm | its like this alternate distro to maemo . .unofficial | 08:51 |
| LiraNuna | anyone cares to read proof? | 08:51 |
| mib_6a047i | zakkm,thanks for your reply,but i don't see the arrow and switch to handwritting | 08:51 |
| skibur | thanks zakkm | 08:52 |
| zakkm | kk onesec mib ill get my tablet | 08:52 |
| skibur | checking... | 08:52 |
| mib_6a047i | do you have image about it? | 08:52 |
| zakkm | okay mib | 08:52 |
| zakkm | you have stylus keyboard up right? | 08:53 |
| zakkm | mib_6a047i: you have stylus keyboard up? | 08:53 |
| zakkm | mib_6a047i: at the bottom left is an arrow pointing at a book you click it - input method - handwritting | 08:54 |
| *** TheJere has joined #maemo | 08:55 | |
| mib_6a047i | do you mean there is an arrow on the vitural keyboard? | 08:55 |
| zakkm | yeah | 08:55 |
| zakkm | bottom left | 08:55 |
| zakkm | arrow going left and a piece of paper icon | 08:56 |
| zakkm | you click it, input method -handwirtting | 08:56 |
| mib_6a047i | i see it | 08:56 |
| LiraNuna | http://liranuna.com/junk/IMG_0692.JPG | 08:57 |
| zakkm | LiraNuna: is that echo? :P | 08:58 |
| zakkm | you leave it default? | 08:58 |
| mib_6a047i | thanks for your help | 08:59 |
| LiraNuna | zakkm, I like how it looks :( | 08:59 |
| zakkm | echo wide scrollbars or normal? | 08:59 |
| mib_6a047i | maybe i have more problems | 08:59 |
| LiraNuna | also, that's NOT _MY_ default | 09:00 |
| LiraNuna | I got the wimax edition | 09:00 |
| LiraNuna | it uses Ilona as default | 09:00 |
| *** Wikier has joined #maemo | 09:00 | |
| zakkm | llona? | 09:00 |
| LiraNuna | wimax's version | 09:00 |
| LiraNuna | same as echo but orange | 09:00 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Eurgh. that red version of echo? | 09:00 |
| LiraNuna | orange | 09:00 |
| zakkm | never heard of it | 09:00 |
| LiraNuna | it's wimax only | 09:01 |
| zakkm | apparently not | 09:01 |
| zakkm | well its in repository | 09:01 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Hmm, I remember iliona to be red | 09:01 |
| zakkm | hidden from application manager apparently | 09:01 |
| zakkm | been looking for a new theme | 09:01 |
| LiraNuna | it's orange. | 09:01 |
| *** emachado has quit IRC | 09:01 | |
| zakkm | theres a new hildon-theme-borgh but i dont like it ;p | 09:01 |
| zakkm | its like the Lcars ones | 09:01 |
| zakkm | is therelike hidden ones , on like maemo garage or something | 09:02 |
| *** FilipLinux4BE has joined #maemo | 09:02 | |
| zakkm | LiraNuna: sweet got it installed :D | 09:03 |
| LiraNuna | zakkm, Ilona? | 09:03 |
| zakkm | yeah | 09:03 |
| LiraNuna | ah | 09:03 |
| zakkm | its accessible from apt-get ;p | 09:03 |
| LiraNuna | hehe | 09:03 |
| zakkm | oh pfft | 09:03 |
| zakkm | its just orange instead of blue | 09:04 |
| LiraNuna | I said ... | 09:04 |
| LiraNuna | <LiraNuna> same as echo but orange | 09:04 |
| LiraNuna | also there's a new background image | 09:04 |
| zakkm | staying with tritanium i guess then | 09:04 |
| LiraNuna | pix? | 09:05 |
| zakkm | ? | 09:06 |
| LiraNuna | any pictures? | 09:06 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Nokia put out a valentine theme once.. probably where I got red from | 09:06 |
| zakkm | http://synthesize.us/images/1/12/Tritanium_home.png | 09:06 |
| zakkm | http://synthesize.us/images/4/49/Tritanium_file2.png | 09:06 |
| zakkm | LiraNuna: you never seen it? | 09:06 |
| LiraNuna | no, I got my N810WE for like, 3 weeks now | 09:07 |
| zakkm | qwerty12_N800: heh, how long you been using maemo? | 09:07 |
| zakkm | what did you have before that? | 09:07 |
| qwerty12_N800 | about a year and some months, and I had a pocket pc before the N800 :) | 09:07 |
| luke-jr | LiraNuna: shoulda just got a N810 normal | 09:08 |
| LiraNuna | luke-jr, it was free | 09:08 |
| luke-jr | I don't see any chance of WE being supported | 09:08 |
| luke-jr | even N810 support is spotty | 09:08 |
| *** KurtKraut has quit IRC | 09:08 | |
| LiraNuna | yeah :( | 09:08 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | is it? | 09:08 |
| LiraNuna | it was free, so oh well | 09:08 |
| skibur | nice | 09:08 |
| zakkm | howd you get it free? | 09:08 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | what are the spots? | 09:08 |
| skibur | mer, how long does it take to install? | 09:08 |
| LiraNuna | zakkm, long story.. | 09:08 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: keyboard and GPS right now | 09:08 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | keyboard seems fine to me... | 09:09 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: you're using a Linux that isn't over 2 years old? | 09:09 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | but I noticed no software to use the camera (except the phone-stuff) was installed | 09:09 |
| *** murrayc has joined #maemo | 09:09 | |
| zakkm | CutMeOwnThroat: you install camera.. from repostitories | 09:10 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | but it's based on a distribution that's far > 10 years :) | 09:10 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | zakkm, yeah, I did... those seemed prone to crashing, though | 09:10 |
| luke-jr | N810 keyboard doesn't work usably in 2.6.30 | 09:10 |
| luke-jr | and nobody with the know-how to fix it has a N810 as far as I can tell | 09:11 |
| qwerty12_N800 | CutMeOwnThroat: use liqbase - works awesome for the camera | 09:11 |
| zakkm | why'd lcuk make the camera tiled in liqbase? | 09:11 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | luke-jr, the keyboard needs a special kernel-module? | 09:11 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: it has its own driver, yes | 09:11 |
| qwerty12_N800 | zakkm: no idea but the picture isn't tiled | 09:11 |
| luke-jr | pretty ugly code, actually | 09:11 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | qwerty12_N800, will have a look... | 09:12 |
| LiraNuna | anyone cares to proof read? http://pastie.org/497505 | 09:12 |
| LiraNuna | I still need the scratchbox2 part :/ | 09:12 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | luke-jr, any reason to go away from the 2.6.21 kernel, though? | 09:12 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah, plenty | 09:12 |
| zakkm | LiraNuna: i tried, link doesnt work though? | 09:12 |
| luke-jr | working wifi, sound, etc | 09:12 |
| LiraNuna | zakkm, which link? | 09:12 |
| luke-jr | and 2.6.21 is ANCIENT | 09:12 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | eh! | 09:12 |
| zakkm | LiraNuna: pastie one | 09:12 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | I still got a server that runs 2.4.X | 09:12 |
| LiraNuna | works here? | 09:13 |
| LiraNuna | just used it | 09:13 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: that's insane | 09:13 |
| zakkm | pastie itself doesnt work for me? | 09:13 |
| zakkm | could you pastebin it? :P | 09:13 |
| LiraNuna | uh sure | 09:13 |
| luke-jr | does 2.4.x even get security patches still? | 09:13 |
| zakkm | sorry, i swear its not loading | 09:13 |
| LiraNuna | http://pastebin.com/m5f2999e4 for those whore can't use pastie | 09:13 |
| *** Dar has joined #maemo | 09:13 | |
| zakkm | here we go :D | 09:13 |
| *** Dar has quit IRC | 09:13 | |
| LiraNuna | I'm currently following this guide and canadian cross compiling GCC for windows from Linux :D | 09:14 |
| zakkm | LiraNuna: development for maemo has stopped, except maemo 5... and mer doesnt use scratchbox | 09:14 |
| LiraNuna | (oh | 09:14 |
| LiraNuna | what does mer use? | 09:14 |
| LiraNuna | as in, how does development go? | 09:14 |
| zakkm | opensuse build service | 09:14 |
| luke-jr | LiraNuna: this is what I meant by no support :p | 09:14 |
| LiraNuna | what about debug | 09:14 |
| LiraNuna | luke-jr, I know :( | 09:15 |
| zakkm | no idea, but its scratchbox-free | 09:15 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | dunno if it gets security updates... it's actually already updated but not rebooted | 09:15 |
| LiraNuna | if I can document it, I'd love to help being the SDK maintainer | 09:15 |
| qwerty12_N800 | LiraNuna: I've done packages for Mer just using the X terminal | 09:15 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | luke-jr, and what's the problem with gps - same? | 09:16 |
| qwerty12_N800 | err.. the normal way of doing it | 09:16 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: no, much worse | 09:16 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: GPS has basically no real support at all | 09:16 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | I mean ... same in the sense that the driver didn't get adapted to 2.6.30 | 09:17 |
| luke-jr | Maemo used an ugly Maemo-specific blob | 09:17 |
| luke-jr | on the kernel side, GPS is a mere UART | 09:17 |
| luke-jr | oh | 09:18 |
| luke-jr | microphone doesn't seem to work in 2.6.30 either | 09:18 |
| luke-jr | but it didn't really work in 2.6.21 either | 09:18 |
| zakkm | luke-jr: how goes gentoo? :P | 09:18 |
| luke-jr | zakkm: kdelibs is being a jerk | 09:18 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | ah, I remember | 09:19 |
| *** alexga has joined #maemo | 09:19 | |
| zakkm | kdelibs.. that would take foreverr to compile | 09:19 |
| luke-jr | zakkm: when it fails inside qemu and runs out of memory linking on the tablet... yes | 09:19 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | what was the problem with the micro in 2.6.21? | 09:19 |
| *** Dar has joined #maemo | 09:19 | |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: audio in 2.6.21 was just screwed in general | 09:20 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | I only once tried to phone someone.. and yes, they had problems hearing me... but I thought it was just the wireless | 09:20 |
| luke-jr | no idea how Maemo used it, it doesn't work with normal ALSA | 09:20 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | don't think I ever used the micro at any other time | 09:20 |
| zakkm | luke-jr: you should check maemo sdk ;p | 09:20 |
| luke-jr | why | 09:20 |
| zakkm | CutMeOwnThroat: the mic on it is perfect, ive found | 09:20 |
| zakkm | n800 here | 09:20 |
| luke-jr | zakkm: N800 has a different mic | 09:21 |
| luke-jr | or at least different setup for it | 09:21 |
| zakkm | than n810? | 09:21 |
| luke-jr | yeah | 09:21 |
| zakkm | ah | 09:21 |
| luke-jr | N810 mic is on the bottom edge | 09:21 |
| luke-jr | N800 mic is on the top | 09:21 |
| zakkm | lol | 09:21 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | that's not a "different mic" as such, though | 09:22 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: presumably there was a reason to move it? | 09:22 |
| zakkm | it depends on chipset, and whether theres physical stuff blocking it making it weaker | 09:22 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | oh, but actually now that you say that, I think I finally found the micro hole | 09:22 |
| luke-jr | hehe | 09:22 |
| qwerty12_N800 | luke-jr: ah, but you've got sound - N800 driver was removed iirc because it needs an update. I'd be happy to hear if that's not the case anymore... | 09:22 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | well, that IS a weird place to have it | 09:22 |
| *** b0unc3_ has joined #maemo | 09:22 | |
| CutMeOwnThroat | it's underneath that little metal stand? | 09:23 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: also, as qwerty12_N800 just confirmed, N800 and N810 use different drivers | 09:23 |
| luke-jr | yeah | 09:23 |
| thux | morning | 09:23 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | well, that's smart... bet a microphone works a hell lot better when you cover it up :) | 09:23 |
| *** b0unc3 has quit IRC | 09:23 | |
| luke-jr | XD | 09:23 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | to be fair, only about 10-20% are covered, though | 09:24 |
| luke-jr | etiher way, it doesn't work yet | 09:24 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | but no big wonder I was never able to find it | 09:24 |
| luke-jr | I thoguht it was the thing on top of the webcam | 09:24 |
| luke-jr | seemed the obvious place for it -.- | 09:24 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, that's what I also thought | 09:25 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | but that's... a flash? | 09:25 |
| luke-jr | I light sensor I think | 09:25 |
| luke-jr | to auto-adjust contrast | 09:25 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | or an autofocus light? | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | nah, light sensor | 09:25 |
| luke-jr | never seen it light up | 09:25 |
| Stskeeps | ambient light sensor or something | 09:25 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | err... why'd you need something but the camera itself for that? | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | it's used to auto-adjust brightness | 09:26 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: camera uses more power? | 09:26 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | eh? it's on anyway when you need to adjust brightness? | 09:26 |
| qwerty12_N800 | CutMeOwnThroat: You've used the camera right? | 09:26 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: display brightness, not camera brightness | 09:26 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | not so often... as I said... stuff crashed | 09:27 |
| * luke-jr ponders if the camera works in 2.6.30 | 09:27 | |
| CutMeOwnThroat | hm, ok, that would make sense, but I've not seen that happen | 09:27 |
| luke-jr | me either tbh | 09:27 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | (I mean light-dependent change of display intensity) | 09:27 |
| luke-jr | maybe Stskeeps should see if quim has a 3rd N810 to donate that can go to someone in kernel dev :> | 09:28 |
| luke-jr | we desperately need someone with the ability to fix support and mainline it | 09:28 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | qwerty12_N800, I usually stop playing with the software that leads to a crash rather quickly :) | 09:28 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Heh, fair point :) | 09:29 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | well, but if I gave my one away, I wouldn't have it anymore and wouldn't profit from the improvement | 09:29 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | no way! | 09:29 |
| luke-jr | CutMeOwnThroat: that's why I was talking about getting Nokia to donate one for the purpose | 09:29 |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: i just think general support for tablets in general are needed | 09:29 |
| *** Meiz_n810 has joined #maemo | 09:29 | |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: the only real flaws in 2.6.30 that I can see are N810-specific | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: well you didn't test on a n800 :P | 09:30 |
| * CutMeOwnThroat . o O ( good choice then, CutMeOwnThroat ) | 09:30 | |
| luke-jr | Stskeeps: nope, but N800 doesn't *have* a keyboard or GPS | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | anyway | 09:30 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | it's got that radio, though, no? | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | i can't imagine why anyone would do a mainlining without 1) lots of time 2) cash | 09:31 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:31 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | you would have found SOMETHING :) | 09:31 |
| *** defmos has joined #maemo | 09:31 | |
| Stskeeps | luke-jr: anyway, n810's are in a decent price range atm | 09:31 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | qwerty12_N800, "fullscreen starfield screensaver" wtf has that to do with the camera? you said liqbase... didn't you? | 09:32 |
| luke-jr | night | 09:32 |
| qwerty12_N800 | CutMeOwnThroat: You've actually been to the menu yet? | 09:32 |
| qwerty12_N800 | (hint, give it a tap) | 09:33 |
| CutMeOwnThroat | no, the fscking wireless of the university doesn't extend into my office | 09:33 |
| *** b0unc3 has joined #maemo | 09:33 | |
| CutMeOwnThroat | so I can't install while here | 09:33 |
| *** havan has joined #maemo | 09:33 | |
| zakkm | liqbase is awesomeee | 09:37 |
| LiraNuna | zakkm, now imaging it with the MBX working... | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, it'll be interesting to see if it goes ahead | 09:40 |
| Stskeeps | it sounded decent atm | 09:40 |
| LiraNuna | Stskeeps, how does development to mer is done? | 09:41 |
| qwerty12_N800 | if that fails: next step: license jazelle :P | 09:41 |
| LiraNuna | Stskeeps, mer "SDK" | 09:41 |
| LiraNuna | qwerty12_N800, lmao | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | LiraNuna: you develop in either a X86 chroot or VMDK with the whole maemo system running, and then when your package is done and tested, you submit it to OBS and it gives you nice armel packages (building locally or on a farm) | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | without any fuss whatsoever beyond that | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | you can also code directly on device | 09:42 |
| LiraNuna | oh wow, canadian cross'ing GCC for winblows works | 09:42 |
| *** trickie has joined #maemo | 09:42 | |
| LiraNuna | anyone wants to test GCC 4.4 targeting maemo on windows? | 09:42 |
| LiraNuna | liqbase dude might be interested in a newer GCC, | 09:43 |
| zakkm | Stskeeps: how goes finger keyboard support? :) | 09:43 |
| LiraNuna | GCC 3.x -> GCC 4.x is leaps ahead | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | zakkm: not sure, code it? | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:43 |
| zakkm | LiraNuna: he goes by lcuk :) | 09:43 |
| LiraNuna | zakkm, ooh | 09:43 |
| zakkm | Stskeeps: i cant code :) | 09:43 |
| LiraNuna | ooooh lcuk2 | 09:43 |
| *** b0unc3__ has joined #maemo | 09:43 | |
| zakkm | i can somewhat read code, but i failed computer science in school | 09:44 |
| LiraNuna | anyone wants GCC 4.4 for winblows targeting maemo4? | 09:44 |
| *** skibur has quit IRC | 09:44 | |
| zakkm | LiraNuna: not many devs here use winblows ;p | 09:44 |
| LiraNuna | great | 09:44 |
| LiraNuna | what about build instructions for linux then :) | 09:44 |
| zakkm | you could put in developers part of maemo talk :P | 09:45 |
| *** mardi__ has joined #maemo | 09:47 | |
| LiraNuna | I don't put unfinished/untested stuff in forums | 09:47 |
| LiraNuna | :P | 09:47 |
| *** tbf has joined #maemo | 09:47 | |
| *** b0unc3_ has quit IRC | 09:49 | |
| *** tbf_ has joined #maemo | 09:51 | |
| *** tbf_ has quit IRC | 09:53 | |
| *** sergio has joined #maemo | 09:59 | |
| *** b0unc3 has quit IRC | 09:59 | |
| *** eichi_ has joined #maemo | 10:03 | |
| *** mardi__ has quit IRC | 10:06 | |
| *** qwerty12_N800 has quit IRC | 10:07 | |
| *** ScriptRipper has joined #maemo | 10:14 | |
| *** mardi__ has joined #maemo | 10:15 | |
| *** sergio has quit IRC | 10:15 | |
| mib_6a047i | i want to use dynamic library,which code sample i shoud see? | 10:20 |
| mib_6a047i | anybody | 10:20 |
| *** L0cutus has joined #maemo | 10:20 | |
| *** ceyusa has joined #maemo | 10:21 | |
| *** eocanha has joined #maemo | 10:26 | |
| *** eichi_ has quit IRC | 10:28 | |
| *** macmaN6789 has joined #maemo | 10:28 | |
| *** Firehand has quit IRC | 10:30 | |
| lcuk2 | mib_6a047i, there are numerous examples on the net for dynamic linking with .so files, you dont need a specific maemo one | 10:32 |
| lcuk2 | LiraNuna, that sounds quite cool, but what about lib support | 10:32 |
| lcuk2 | zakkm, yes it is lol :D | 10:32 |
| *** lcuk2 is now known as lcuk | 10:32 | |
| lcuk | zakkm, ive been thinking about what you said last night and I might just have a plan.. | 10:33 |
| zakkm | lcuk: about to go use liqbase in about 5-10min after i finish encoding mer maemo conference vid | 10:33 |
| zakkm | what did i say last night? | 10:33 |
| *** melmoth has joined #maemo | 10:33 | |
| lcuk | yes, i havent got time now lol | 10:33 |
| zakkm | ? | 10:33 |
| lcuk | but it involves your offer to build a package from liqbase | 10:33 |
| lcuk | for the nightlies | 10:34 |
| zakkm | oh that was last night for you? | 10:34 |
| zakkm | hah | 10:34 |
| zakkm | its still the same day for me , i havent slept yet ( im 5 hours before you ) | 10:34 |
| lcuk | yes i woke up | 10:34 |
| LiraNuna | lcuk, lib support? | 10:34 |
| lcuk | since i do dev on the device - it would help if i could carry on myself as i do and let others who have full dev env setup to do package | 10:35 |
| zakkm | lcuk: i meant nightly / semi-nightly deb too not just the one | 10:35 |
| lcuk | yes zakkm thats what i meant as well | 10:35 |
| lcuk | its a pain in the ass for me to build a package and i cant get autotools or dpkg working easily on tablet | 10:35 |
| lcuk | we have basic package source running now - in the next few days i will finish getting it in shape etc | 10:36 |
| *** rkirti has quit IRC | 10:36 | |
| lcuk | LiraNuna, you said gcc4 stuff on windows | 10:36 |
| LiraNuna | yes | 10:37 |
| lcuk | not all libs are available on windows | 10:37 |
| LiraNuna | eh | 10:37 |
| LiraNuna | it targets MAEMO | 10:37 |
| LiraNuna | a cross compiler | 10:37 |
| zakkm | heh should use cygwin | 10:37 |
| lcuk | nahhh i prefer the device itself ;) | 10:37 |
| *** ciroip has joined #maemo | 10:37 | |
| lcuk | LiraNuna, it does sound interesting - it would cut out major problems for me | 10:38 |
| LiraNuna | :) | 10:38 |
| LiraNuna | GCC 4.4 cross compiler for windows or linux | 10:38 |
| LiraNuna | targets maemo | 10:38 |
| zakkm | lcuk: ive never acutally added anything to extras / extras-devel..but is it just a matter of naming and uploading.. and waiting? | 10:38 |
| zakkm | who runs it? | 10:39 |
| lcuk | zakkm, when i get back tonight im gonna fill in an app for libliqbase on garage | 10:39 |
| LiraNuna | lcuk, let me upload a 7z | 10:39 |
| zakkm | oh cool found "uploading to extras" wiki page | 10:39 |
| lcuk | LiraNuna, im not in any position to do anything right now but send me a mail at liquid@gmail.com and ill look tonight | 10:40 |
| RST38h | There is a new Tegra-based tablet coming out | 10:40 |
| LiraNuna | lcuk, oh, no problem | 10:40 |
| lcuk | oooh liqbase should run really fast on that (H) | 10:40 |
| RST38h | lcuk: I do not think so, the main CPU is kinda weak | 10:40 |
| *** fab has joined #maemo | 10:40 | |
| lcuk | its super fast on omap2 already ... | 10:41 |
| lcuk | and runs on baconfat on omap3 | 10:41 |
| lcuk | and goes into orbit on x86 | 10:41 |
| *** alexga has quit IRC | 10:41 | |
| LiraNuna | if anyone's interested: http://www.liranuna.com/junk/arm-linux-gnueabi.w32.7z | 10:42 |
| * lcuk wonders what kind of analogy i could use for tegra | 10:42 | |
| LiraNuna | lcuk, omap | 10:42 |
| zakkm | lcuk: who controls extras-devel repo? | 10:43 |
| lcuk | maemo does | 10:43 |
| *** christefano has quit IRC | 10:43 | |
| zakkm | like nobody on irc? | 10:43 |
| lcuk | yeah some of the overlords exist | 10:44 |
| lcuk | but i dunno | 10:44 |
| lcuk | im off to work \o cyas later | 10:44 |
| zakkm | cya! | 10:44 |
| LiraNuna | if anyone wants to build his/her own version on Linux, here's a (beta) guide: http://pastie.org/497505 | 10:44 |
| zakkm | version of linux? | 10:44 |
| zakkm | distro? :P | 10:44 |
| *** alexga has joined #maemo | 10:44 | |
| RST38h | lcuk: BACON: http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6651997,00.jpg | 10:45 |
| lcuk | LiraNuna, does this pastie expire ? | 10:45 |
| LiraNuna | no idea | 10:45 |
| lcuk | thx for mail, im gonna c&p it lol | 10:45 |
| LiraNuna | np | 10:45 |
| *** christefano has joined #maemo | 10:45 | |
| LiraNuna | please note that canadian cross compiling (what I did) is harder | 10:45 |
| LiraNuna | compilingon linux (for linux) is much easier | 10:45 |
| lcuk | yeah targeting canadian binaries is harder than european ones | 10:46 |
| zakkm | :) | 10:46 |
| LiraNuna | haha | 10:47 |
| zakkm | The term Canadian Cross came about because at the time that these issues were all being hashed out, Canada had three national political parties. | 10:47 |
| LiraNuna | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_compiler#Canadian_Cross | 10:47 |
| hub | there are 5 now | 10:48 |
| zakkm | going to bed, goodnight! | 10:48 |
| *** zakkm has quit IRC | 10:48 | |
| hub | only 4 with seats | 10:48 |
| hub | in the house of commons | 10:48 |
| *** mib_6a047i has quit IRC | 10:49 | |
| *** t0h has quit IRC | 10:53 | |
| *** t0h has joined #maemo | 10:53 | |
| *** Meizirkki has joined #maemo | 10:55 | |
| *** ciroip has quit IRC | 10:55 | |
| *** herzi has joined #maemo | 10:56 | |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 10:57 | |
| *** Meizirkki has quit IRC | 10:57 | |
| *** Meiz_n810 has quit IRC | 10:58 | |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #maemo | 11:03 | |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #maemo | 11:03 | |
| *** _BuBU has quit IRC | 11:04 | |
| *** bilboed-pi has joined #maemo | 11:07 | |
| RST38h | Tegra-based Mobinnova Èlan running Windows CE rocks our world | 11:09 |
| RST38h | Windows CE. Eeeek. | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | yay, hello kitty photo frames | 11:17 |
| *** zap has joined #maemo | 11:18 | |
| *** _BuBU has joined #Maemo | 11:19 | |
| *** Omegamoon has joined #maemo | 11:20 | |
| *** calvaris has joined #maemo | 11:21 | |
| RST38h | Sts: Inform Myrtti right away =) | 11:23 |
| *** ciroip has joined #maemo | 11:23 | |
| Myrtti | lulwhut? | 11:26 |
| *** lbt has joined #maemo | 11:26 | |
| RST38h | Myrtti: hello Kitty picture frames! | 11:27 |
| Myrtti | whutwhere? | 11:27 |
| *** hellwolf-n810 has quit IRC | 11:27 | |
| RST38h | http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/02/sanrio-announces-two-hello-kitty-digital-photo-frames-one-child/ | 11:28 |
| * RST38h hides | 11:28 | |
| *** hannesw has joined #maemo | 11:29 | |
| Myrtti | ewww | 11:30 |
| Myrtti | that's fugly | 11:30 |
| *** frade has joined #maemo | 11:30 | |
| RST38h | Not according to Sanrio execs =) | 11:32 |
| ciroip | look like a pink n800... | 11:33 |
| zap | Anybody knows if there's a libgmp3 for Maemo? I see some traces of it in builder log, but it's not in any of the official repos... | 11:35 |
| *** AD-N770 has joined #maemo | 11:40 | |
| *** radic_ is now known as radic | 11:40 | |
| *** booiiing has quit IRC | 11:41 | |
| *** Meizirkki has joined #maemo | 11:42 | |
| *** radic is now known as radic_ | 11:43 | |
| *** mardi__ has quit IRC | 11:45 | |
| radic_ | Stskeeps: you are there? | 11:45 |
| *** parazitus has joined #maemo | 11:49 | |
| *** rkirti has joined #maemo | 11:52 | |
| *** Summeli has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** _BuBU has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** bilboed-pi has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** t0h has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** alexga has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** ScriptRipper has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** cosmo has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** sphenxes03 has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** n6pfk has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** jgoss has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** ijon_ has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** radic_ has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** mk500 has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** dlmarti has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** EdLin has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** iamlindoro has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** lpotter has quit IRC | 11:53 | |
| *** _BuBU has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** bilboed-pi has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** t0h has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** alexga has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** ScriptRipper has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** cosmo has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** Summeli has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** sphenxes03 has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** EdLin has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** radic_ has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** n6pfk has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** iamlindoro has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** jgoss has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** dlmarti has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** lpotter has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** ijon_ has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** mk500 has joined #maemo | 11:54 | |
| *** ScriptRipper_ has joined #maemo | 11:55 | |
| *** hellwolf has joined #maemo | 11:58 | |
| *** christefano1 has joined #maemo | 11:58 | |
| *** lardman|gone is now known as lardman | 12:01 | |
| lardman | zap: dunno, but it builds without any patching | 12:02 |
| zap | I'm just interested what was the reason to remove it from repository | 12:02 |
| zap | perhaps the f*d US regulations about cryptography | 12:03 |
| *** minra has joined #maemo | 12:03 | |
| *** greentux_ has joined #maemo | 12:04 | |
| *** ssvb has quit IRC | 12:05 | |
| RST38h | Haven't restrictions on SSL code been lifted already? | 12:05 |
| *** christefano has quit IRC | 12:05 | |
| Stskeeps | is N810 usb cable micro usb B or A? | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | :p | 12:05 |
| zap | micro USB B | 12:07 |
| RST38h | Anyone filed a bug about Maemo.org header being two different sizes when you logged in and when not? | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | zap: thanks | 12:08 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: You seem to see a lot of strange things that I really can't reproduce? | 12:08 |
| lardman | zap: I'm not sure it was ever in there actually | 12:08 |
| zap | Stskeeps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Types_of_USB_connector | 12:08 |
| zap | lardman: see this log: https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/Sep.2008/guile-1.8_1.8.5+1-4maemo1/armel.root.log.OK.txt | 12:08 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: Did you change your default font or somthing like that? | 12:08 |
| X-Fade | *size | 12:09 |
| lardman | zap: oh yeah | 12:10 |
| lardman | *shrug* | 12:10 |
| *** _berto_ has joined #maemo | 12:11 | |
| *** eichi_ has joined #maemo | 12:12 | |
| zap | libgmp3c2 2:4.2.2+dfsg-3 | 12:12 |
| zap | looks like a Nokia package | 12:12 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: That does not necessarily mean that I am not seeing things :) | 12:13 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: No, FF3, normally sized fonts | 12:14 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: Should I investigate a bit more and report? | 12:14 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: No, I'm not saying that. But it looks like something is up at your end (settings or something else?) | 12:14 |
| RST38h | It is minor but bugs me by its subtlety | 12:14 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: Oh, it occurs on both my home and work machines | 12:14 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: Hmmm. | 12:14 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: So it is NOT something on my end (and neither is the login problems) | 12:15 |
| RST38h | s/s// | 12:15 |
| infobot | RST38h meant: X-Fade: So it i NOT something on my end (and neither is the login problems) | 12:15 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: Can you create a screenshot? | 12:15 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: Will attach to bug report | 12:15 |
| X-Fade | ok. | 12:15 |
| zap | hmm, funny | 12:15 |
| zap | when I log in with a bad username/password, the page suddenly enlarges a bit | 12:16 |
| zap | like if I would set 125% zoom\ | 12:16 |
| RST38h | exactly | 12:16 |
| zap | and after a couple seconds it jumps back to 100% | 12:16 |
| zap | with no actions on my side | 12:16 |
| X-Fade | So it is the authentication page? | 12:16 |
| zap | this is http://maemo.org | 12:17 |
| *** ScriptRipper has quit IRC | 12:17 | |
| zap | hmm, my login/password doesnt work as well :) | 12:17 |
| zap | FF3 here too | 12:17 |
| RST38h | let me file it, with a few screenshots | 12:18 |
| zap | Stskeeps: actually it's "micro AB" | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | .. AB? | 12:18 |
| *** ferulo has joined #maemo | 12:18 | |
| zap | yes | 12:19 |
| *** florian_kc has joined #maemo | 12:19 | |
| zap | A is for host, B is for device plug | 12:19 |
| zap | AB is for USB-on-the-go | 12:19 |
| zap | Nokia can act both as host and device | 12:19 |
| *** florian_kc is now known as florian | 12:19 | |
| *** minra- has joined #maemo | 12:19 | |
| zap | you can plug both USB micro-B and USB micro-A plugs into AB | 12:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:19 |
| JamieBennett | does anyone have a problem with no feedback for the 'thumbs up' and 'thumbs down' feature of planet maemo? I never know if it has registered or not. | 12:20 |
| Stskeeps | i just hope the ones i just ordered are ok :P | 12:20 |
| RST38h | amie: there is a bug report for that | 12:20 |
| RST38h | Jamie: it should light 'em up | 12:20 |
| JamieBennett | Ah OK RST38h. | 12:20 |
| minra- | is media player source avail? | 12:21 |
| RST38h | shit, I restarted FF and now I am logged in but the Midgard bar is gone | 12:21 |
| minra- | i could reduce suckage without adding bloat | 12:21 |
| minra- | heh | 12:21 |
| minra- | what is midgard | 12:21 |
| JamieBennett | minra-: http://www.midgard-project.org | 12:23 |
| *** minra has quit IRC | 12:24 | |
| minra- | ahh | 12:25 |
| *** christefano1 is now known as christefano | 12:25 | |
| JamieBennett | minra-: Its what maemo.org runs on | 12:25 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: 4613 | 12:26 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: Ok, thanks | 12:26 |
| lardman | zap: it's just the standard package name actually: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libgmp3c2 | 12:26 |
| *** dl9pf has joined #maemo | 12:27 | |
| florian | good morning | 12:27 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: So the register button is zoomed when not logged in? | 12:27 |
| lardman | hi florian | 12:27 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: Or stretched.. | 12:27 |
| *** _BuBU1 has joined #Maemo | 12:29 | |
| *** Bleadof has quit IRC | 12:30 | |
| *** Bleadof has joined #maemo | 12:30 | |
| *** _BuBU has quit IRC | 12:30 | |
| X-Fade | RST38h: I can only trigger that kind of zooming when I use ctrl + ? | 12:31 |
| *** rkirti has quit IRC | 12:35 | |
| lcuk | X-Fade, your human macro zoom should work without pressing CTRL, just move closer to the page :P | 12:35 |
| *** rkirti has joined #maemo | 12:36 | |
| lcuk | (hiya btw) | 12:37 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: Yeah, that is another option ;) | 12:37 |
| lcuk | X-Fade, if i create a project as gpl in garage can i change the license at a later date (looking like lgpl) when I have gone over the issues | 12:38 |
| X-Fade | lcuk: You should be able to change that license yourself in the admin part. | 12:39 |
| lcuk | ok didnt know whether it was an interface or not :) | 12:39 |
| lcuk | would it be evil to keep libliqbase gpl entirely ;) | 12:39 |
| *** Ryback_ has joined #maemo | 12:43 | |
| andre__ | lcuk, for a later license change (e.g. from gpl to lgpl) you will have to contact any past contributors. that can be fun if some email addresses are not working anymore | 12:44 |
| lcuk | andre__, i am still in contact with every single person (essentially myself) | 12:45 |
| lcuk | theres the packaging this weekend and a few bits from my good friend kotczarny but on the whole its my code to change | 12:46 |
| andre__ | yeah... but in ten years after billions of contributions to liqbase you will have fun :-P | 12:46 |
| lcuk | the original liqbase is gpl2 with option of 3, but the library really needs to be better defined | 12:47 |
| lcuk | oh - the stuff z4chh has done recently as well - right, shall hash it over and change it soon lol | 12:48 |
| lcuk | andre__, ill just file bugs at you to contact everyone :P | 12:48 |
| *** Omegamoon1 has joined #maemo | 12:48 | |
| *** vingtetun has joined #maemo | 12:49 | |
| *** Omegamoon1 has left #maemo | 12:49 | |
| *** cjdavis has joined #maemo | 12:49 | |
| *** christefano has quit IRC | 12:50 | |
| andre__ | lcuk, i will find a way to avoid that job. and if not i can always quit with a 30 days' notice ;-) | 12:55 |
| *** x29a_ is now known as x29a | 12:57 | |
| *** stv0 has joined #maemo | 12:58 | |
| *** stv0 has left #maemo | 12:58 | |
| *** murrayc has quit IRC | 12:59 | |
| *** Meizirkki has quit IRC | 13:01 | |
| *** Omegamoon has quit IRC | 13:02 | |
| lcuk | heh andre__ ill disguise it somehow but still end up with you handling it :D | 13:03 |
| *** pvanhoof has quit IRC | 13:06 | |
| *** qwerty12 has joined #maemo | 13:08 | |
| Stskeeps | lo qwerty12 | 13:09 |
| qwerty12 | hey Stskeeps | 13:09 |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #maemo | 13:09 | |
| RST38h | X-Fade: No Ctrl+ involved | 13:09 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: It should as the first part shows the white line artifact beween above the orange part. | 13:10 |
| X-Fade | RST38h: Try to hit ctrl- when you see that. | 13:10 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: I am absolutely not pressing anything extra | 13:10 |
| RST38h | X-Fade: not clicking any keys just the mouse button | 13:11 |
| X-Fade | No, but your browser remembers zoom? | 13:11 |
| RST38h | Not really, why should it? | 13:11 |
| *** b0unc3 has joined #maemo | 13:11 | |
| *** hannesw has quit IRC | 13:13 | |
| *** benh has joined #maemo | 13:14 | |
| *** Free_maN has joined #maemo | 13:17 | |
| *** b0unc3__ has quit IRC | 13:27 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has quit IRC | 13:33 | |
| *** StsN800 has joined #maemo | 13:33 | |
| *** melmoth has quit IRC | 13:34 | |
| *** mgedmin has joined #maemo | 13:36 | |
| *** mardi__ has joined #maemo | 13:38 | |
| *** lizardo has joined #maemo | 13:40 | |
| *** melmoth has joined #maemo | 13:42 | |
| *** yerga has quit IRC | 13:42 | |
| *** oli has quit IRC | 13:45 | |
| *** EdLin has quit IRC | 13:45 | |
| *** amit_usual has joined #maemo | 13:46 | |
| lardman | hello amit_usual | 13:47 |
| amit_usual | hi | 13:47 |
| amit_usual | lardman hi | 13:47 |
| lardman | did you get my email? | 13:48 |
| *** djinn has joined #maemo | 13:49 | |
| djinn | hello all | 13:49 |
| *** oli has joined #maemo | 13:50 | |
| *** ScriptRipper_ is now known as ScriptRipper | 13:51 | |
| *** tbf has quit IRC | 13:54 | |
| * RST38h hehes involuntarily: "Mobinnova ViewBook N910 (netbook)" | 13:54 | |
| lardman | I think I'd have sore ears listening to music for 25days straight ;) | 13:56 |
| *** tbf has joined #maemo | 13:56 | |
| *** n6pfk has quit IRC | 13:59 | |
| *** L0cutus has quit IRC | 14:03 | |
| *** doc|home has quit IRC | 14:06 | |
| *** ciroip has quit IRC | 14:08 | |
| *** mardi__ has left #maemo | 14:09 | |
| *** havan has quit IRC | 14:17 | |
| *** ciroip has joined #maemo | 14:18 | |
| *** defmos has left #maemo | 14:18 | |
| *** hannesw has joined #maemo | 14:22 | |
| *** oli has quit IRC | 14:23 | |
| *** matzenh has joined #maemo | 14:24 | |
| *** lbt has quit IRC | 14:27 | |
| *** bergie has joined #maemo | 14:28 | |
| *** radic_ has quit IRC | 14:32 | |
| *** lmoura has joined #maemo | 14:33 | |
| *** jeez_away has quit IRC | 14:33 | |
| *** jeez_ has joined #maemo | 14:33 | |
| lcuk | lardman, thats holly whacking you round the head for using ipod whilst at the wedding | 14:36 |
| lardman | lol | 14:37 |
| lardman | if it had been an Nxxx it would have been better? ;) | 14:37 |
| lcuk | heh its worth it if its new tech :D | 14:37 |
| *** StsN801 has joined #maemo | 14:37 | |
| lcuk | even i would risk the wrath of tracy for that lol | 14:37 |
| *** k-s[AWAY] is now known as k-s | 14:38 | |
| RST38h | Whoever makes another comment to that N900 thread is going to start on the 100th page. Hurry up folks! | 14:39 |
| RST38h | =) | 14:39 |
| *** StsN800 has quit IRC | 14:39 | |
| *** jeez_ has quit IRC | 14:39 | |
| *** jeez_ has joined #maemo | 14:39 | |
| lcuk | RST38h, just edit your post so its longer | 14:40 |
| RST38h | lcuk: I am not THAT vane :) | 14:41 |
| *** ejdav_gon has joined #maemo | 14:43 | |
| *** geaaru has joined #maemo | 14:43 | |
| * lardman heads off to get some more report written | 14:44 | |
| mgedmin | vane? | 14:44 |
| lardman | wind turbine? | 14:44 |
| *** brolin has joined #maemo | 14:44 | |
| *** lardman is now known as lardman|away | 14:44 | |
| *** lbt_ has quit IRC | 14:45 | |
| *** beavis is now known as krutt | 14:46 | |
| *** tonikitoo has quit IRC | 14:46 | |
| *** benh has quit IRC | 14:47 | |
| RST38h | s/vane/vain | 14:48 |
| *** VDVsx has joined #maemo | 14:49 | |
| *** simon_ has quit IRC | 14:49 | |
| *** rsalveti has quit IRC | 14:52 | |
| *** Anunakin has joined #maemo | 14:53 | |
| Anunakin | Hi All! | 14:54 |
| Anunakin | Hey guys! N900 is true? or a lie? | 14:54 |
| RST38h | Lie. | 14:54 |
| StsN801 | lo | 14:54 |
| *** dneary has joined #maemo | 14:54 | |
| RST38h | Finnish government is behind it, too | 14:54 |
| lcuk | heh | 14:54 |
| qwerty12 | Pandora people is helping them | 14:54 |
| StsN801 | Anunakin, nothing official out yet | 14:54 |
| qwerty12 | *are | 14:55 |
| *** rsalveti has joined #maemo | 14:55 | |
| *** eichi_ has quit IRC | 14:55 | |
| StsN801 | not so much a lie but a conspiracy | 14:55 |
| RST38h | qwerty: That would be a huge factor against N900 being released on time =) | 14:55 |
| qwerty12 | hehe | 14:55 |
| *** lfelipe is now known as lfelipe[AWAY] | 14:56 | |
| RST38h | N900 is actually going to be a homing device masquerading as a cell phone | 14:56 |
| StsN801 | that's what i fear our donated n810s are ;) | 14:56 |
| *** rsalveti has quit IRC | 14:57 | |
| *** rsalveti has joined #maemo | 14:57 | |
| RST38h | Sts: Yea, that is for sure. Nokia donates you an n810 and you start visiting Mameo/Mozilla meets, etc =) | 14:57 |
| *** jdav_gone has quit IRC | 14:57 | |
| RST38h | Not to mention those Chinese forums... | 14:58 |
| *** ejdav_gon is now known as jdav_gone | 14:58 | |
| *** fnordianslip has quit IRC | 14:59 | |
| *** halves has joined #maemo | 14:59 | |
| *** booiiing has joined #maemo | 14:59 | |
| *** dieb^afk is now known as dieb_ | 15:00 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has joined #maemo | 15:02 | |
| StsN801 | lo timeless | 15:02 |
| timeless_mbp | hi | 15:02 |
| * timeless_mbp wonders if this vm will work | 15:03 | |
| *** mib_gc3m2o has joined #maemo | 15:03 | |
| mib_gc3m2o | i can't see it on the vitural keyboard,after i build the hildon-input-plugins-example and install it.what't the problem? | 15:05 |
| mib_gc3m2o | is there anybody who can give me a tip? thans | 15:06 |
| mib_gc3m2o | thanks | 15:06 |
| StsN801 | fremantle? | 15:06 |
| *** torkiano has joined #maemo | 15:06 | |
| *** radic has joined #maemo | 15:06 | |
| mib_gc3m2o | no,it's diablo | 15:07 |
| StsN801 | cod | 15:07 |
| mib_gc3m2o | do you have experence? | 15:07 |
| StsN801 | code or os? | 15:07 |
| mib_gc3m2o | code | 15:07 |
| mib_gc3m2o | code sample | 15:07 |
| *** chenca has joined #maemo | 15:08 | |
| StsN801 | ok, and where do you run it? | 15:08 |
| mib_gc3m2o | i just build and install it in the sdk | 15:08 |
| StsN801 | ok | 15:08 |
| StsN801 | not sure how it works there | 15:09 |
| RST38h | Ho ho ho, another conspiracy thread! | 15:09 |
| mib_gc3m2o | after i build the sample,there is no bin file | 15:10 |
| mib_gc3m2o | it is a .so file | 15:10 |
| StsN801 | of course | 15:11 |
| StsN801 | hildon input method can load it | 15:11 |
| mib_gc3m2o | i build a package and install it | 15:11 |
| mib_gc3m2o | the step is like this,but i can't see it on the keyboard | 15:12 |
| mib_gc3m2o | it is always older one | 15:12 |
| mib_gc3m2o | how to switch to it? | 15:12 |
| *** emachado has joined #maemo | 15:12 | |
| StsN801 | on n800/n810? | 15:13 |
| *** yerga has joined #maemo | 15:13 | |
| mib_gc3m2o | yes | 15:13 |
| StsN801 | lo yerga | 15:13 |
| StsN801 | the menu should have it | 15:13 |
| yerga | Hi StsN801 | 15:14 |
| mib_gc3m2o | you mean the button menu | 15:14 |
| StsN801 | yeah, the one on the old keyboard | 15:15 |
| mib_gc3m2o | at the bottom-left | 15:15 |
| mib_gc3m2o | yes | 15:15 |
| StsN801 | yeah | 15:15 |
| *** amit_usual has quit IRC | 15:15 | |
| mib_gc3m2o | i see it ,it shows what i have install. | 15:16 |
| mib_gc3m2o | but it display in grey state. | 15:16 |
| mib_gc3m2o | i can't click it | 15:16 |
| StsN801 | ok, asking someone. sec | 15:18 |
| mib_gc3m2o | thanks | 15:18 |
| StsN801 | can i ask what you want to develop? | 15:18 |
| mib_gc3m2o | handwritting | 15:18 |
| *** booiiing has quit IRC | 15:19 | |
| mib_gc3m2o | i learn it lately | 15:19 |
| StsN801 | oki | 15:19 |
| *** cjdavis has quit IRC | 15:19 | |
| mib_gc3m2o | do you build the input-method sample? | 15:20 |
| StsN801 | you're more than welcome to help with hildon input method plugins in Mer project (see wiki.maemo.org/Mer | 15:20 |
| mib_gc3m2o | yeah | 15:20 |
| StsN801 | we need help in that area so | 15:20 |
| mib_gc3m2o | i have seen the code sample,but i can't install it properly | 15:21 |
| *** abner has joined #maemo | 15:22 | |
| StsN801 | well if it shows up so far so good | 15:23 |
| *** L0cutus has joined #maemo | 15:24 | |
| *** hannesw has quit IRC | 15:24 | |
| *** lfelipe[AWAY] is now known as lfelipe | 15:26 | |
| *** lopz has quit IRC | 15:27 | |
| mib_gc3m2o | yeah it shows up now, it seems to not be switch the older one. | 15:27 |
| mib_gc3m2o | switch to older one | 15:28 |
| *** hannesw has joined #maemo | 15:28 | |
| *** booiiing has joined #maemo | 15:28 | |
| StsN801 | ok, it has something to deal with supported languages maybe | 15:29 |
| mib_gc3m2o | if i install,it could only show my input method and not show another one. | 15:29 |
| StsN801 | ah | 15:29 |
| *** danilocesar has joined #maemo | 15:29 | |
| mib_gc3m2o | switching between twe input method can be implemented with supported languages. | 15:31 |
| mib_gc3m2o | do you have ever seen some handwritting input method? | 15:33 |
| mib_gc3m2o | do you know where to switch between them | 15:34 |
| *** jukey has joined #maemo | 15:35 | |
| *** hannesw has quit IRC | 15:37 | |
| *** lfelipe has left #maemo | 15:37 | |
| *** blade_runner has joined #maemo | 15:41 | |
| *** StOrM_NW has joined #maemo | 15:42 | |
| StOrM_NW | is the fremantle release stable? and where can i get a website explaining how to flash to this release if so? | 15:43 |
| RST38h | Fremantle is currently not available for the devices | 15:43 |
| *** Anunakin has quit IRC | 15:43 | |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 15:43 | |
| RST38h | Fremantle SDK (development kit) is available for preview in beta | 15:43 |
| StOrM_NW | oh k, so diablo version is still the more up-to-date release for the devices? | 15:44 |
| RST38h | yes. | 15:44 |
| StOrM_NW | ok thanks for the help | 15:44 |
| *** djinn has quit IRC | 15:45 | |
| X-Fade | Heh, sharing plugins category surfaces again ;) | 15:45 |
| *** simon_ has joined #maemo | 15:47 | |
| *** zimmerle has joined #maemo | 15:48 | |
| *** t_s_o has joined #maemo | 15:48 | |
| minra- | RST38h, did you ever find a way to get 50-60fps true screen updates at any resolution? | 15:48 |
| *** lardman has joined #maemo | 15:49 | |
| *** tonikitoo has joined #maemo | 15:49 | |
| *** mib_gc3m2o has quit IRC | 15:49 | |
| *** Sesrun has joined #maemo | 15:50 | |
| lcuk | minra-, thats entirely feasible using xv and lower than 800*480 | 15:50 |
| minra- | would like to get true synched screen updates at 320x20p | 15:50 |
| minra- | 200 | 15:50 |
| lcuk | grab liqbase from extras and change the resolution and take a look for yourself :) | 15:51 |
| minra- | lcuk, your liq code to do this is available? | 15:51 |
| minra- | ty | 15:51 |
| lcuk | yeah its in garage | 15:51 |
| minra- | thank you sir | 15:51 |
| lcuk | the released one which has resolution changes at least | 15:51 |
| Sesrun | does anyone know of a os2008 maemo app to calculate sunrise/sunset data tables per long/lat? | 15:51 |
| lcuk | the new one doesnt do that lot, its used for fullscreen stuff | 15:51 |
| minra- | i think the controller hides true vsync from us | 15:52 |
| lcuk | Sesrun, if theres a console/gtk app to do itfor linux in general it should be possible to use | 15:52 |
| *** brolin has quit IRC | 15:52 | |
| minra- | have you code to fix tearing in horiz scroll? | 15:53 |
| Sesrun | gotcha didn't know that. i'll search around some more. thanks | 15:53 |
| *** mib_nrn5zf has joined #maemo | 15:54 | |
| minra- | i think synched updates not possible at 50-60hz | 15:54 |
| minra- | at any res | 15:55 |
| *** fiferboy has joined #maemo | 15:55 | |
| mib_nrn5zf | In maemo devolopment which tool is the most useful debug tool? | 15:55 |
| minra- | grep/vi | 15:55 |
| *** murrayc has joined #maemo | 15:55 | |
| minra- | gdb | 15:55 |
| mib_nrn5zf | i want to see the debug output. | 15:55 |
| *** simon_ has quit IRC | 15:56 | |
| lardman | is there some more detail about the location framework somewhere? | 15:57 |
| lardman | and specifically whether there is a server based backend used to do look-ups from things like wifi MACs/gsm tower ids/etc.? | 15:58 |
| *** StsN801 has quit IRC | 15:59 | |
| lcuk | minra-, i seem to have no problem with tearing :) | 16:03 |
| *** Wikier has quit IRC | 16:04 | |
| RST38h | lardman: I would seach for GeoClue | 16:04 |
| lardman | it isn't geoclue based though is it | 16:04 |
| lardman | I seem to remember that specific fact | 16:05 |
| X-Fade | lardman: No it is Nokia's own framework. | 16:05 |
| RST38h | Wait, cancel that: http://www.mail-archive.com/geoclue@lists.freedesktop.org/msg00212.html | 16:05 |
| RST38h | lardman: Yes | 16:05 |
| lardman | I was just idly thinking about whether the creation of such databases would be beneficial | 16:05 |
| *** amit_usual has joined #maemo | 16:05 | |
| lardman | ah, city name stuff looks quite useful | 16:06 |
| RST38h | They exist already, commercial ones | 16:06 |
| lardman | I wonder if it will also do lat-lon -> post/zip-codes? | 16:06 |
| RST38h | TIGER db will do that for US | 16:06 |
| lardman | in the UK the lookups require payment, or Google I guess | 16:07 |
| Myrtti | no, wolfram alpha will do it *ALL* *grin* | 16:08 |
| Myrtti | *chuckle* | 16:08 |
| lardman | lol | 16:08 |
| Myrtti | ALL HAIL HYPNOTOAD! | 16:08 |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 16:08 | |
| lardman | lunch-time drinking Myrtti? ;) | 16:08 |
| *** RST38h is now known as Hypnotoad | 16:08 | |
| Myrtti | lardman: lack of caffeine | 16:08 |
| Hypnotoad | Yes? Somebody called? | 16:08 |
| lardman | Myrtti: now I mention it I could do with a beer, mmmm | 16:09 |
| Myrtti | and it's almost dinner time | 16:09 |
| lardman | well lots of lunch-time drinking then! :D | 16:09 |
| *** hannesw has joined #maemo | 16:10 | |
| * Hypnotoad thoroughfully hypnotizes everyone present into buying iPhones | 16:10 | |
| *** Hypnotoad is now known as RST38h | 16:10 | |
| *** cjdavis has joined #maemo | 16:10 | |
| lardman | ~lart Word for 'correcting' spellings that are already correct | 16:12 |
| * infobot blasts Word with a huge firehose then strangles Word with it for 'correcting' spellings that are already correct | 16:12 | |
| RST38h | lardman: Microsoft has got a better tool for that now | 16:12 |
| RST38h | When writing a C# program, Studio will actually try to correct your coding by replacing "Key" with some "KeyHandlerExceptionType" etc. | 16:13 |
| lardman | like an auto complete thing? | 16:14 |
| *** simon_ has joined #maemo | 16:14 | |
| *** __t has joined #maemo | 16:14 | |
| RST38h | Yes, but an extremely proactive and annoying one | 16:15 |
| *** pvanhoof has quit IRC | 16:15 | |
| *** KurtKraut has joined #maemo | 16:15 | |
| lardman | I know your pain, I'm also having troubles with the wonders of auto-capitalisation, when I actually want lower case, arrrgh x2 | 16:16 |
| * RST38h usually solves this by using PICO for all his typing needs | 16:16 | |
| RST38h | And if these guys really want .doc, let 'em convert it themselves from .txt | 16:17 |
| lardman | not sure pico would like my equations and diagrams, etc | 16:17 |
| RST38h | LaTeX | 16:17 |
| lardman | hmm | 16:18 |
| *** eichi_ has joined #maemo | 16:19 | |
| *** GAN800 has quit IRC | 16:20 | |
| minra- | just sketch them in liq | 16:20 |
| minra- | :) | 16:20 |
| *** torkiano has quit IRC | 16:20 | |
| *** matzenh has quit IRC | 16:20 | |
| minra- | ive seen results from last year lcuk. only valid test for tearing is horizontal pynning | 16:21 |
| minra- | panning | 16:21 |
| cmug | to begin or not to begin | 16:21 |
| *** wsuetholz has quit IRC | 16:22 | |
| *** GAN800 has joined #maemo | 16:24 | |
| *** murrayc has quit IRC | 16:24 | |
| *** ceyusa has quit IRC | 16:27 | |
| cmug | ok instead of deciding now I get coffee | 16:28 |
| lardman | lol | 16:29 |
| lardman | I did the same | 16:29 |
| lardman | then went back to Word | 16:29 |
| cmug | hmm, I have so many things to begin that I can't even decide what to begin :( | 16:29 |
| cmug | but coffee tastes good atleast | 16:30 |
| lardman | I've got lots begun, but few finished | 16:30 |
| cmug | sounds like the story of my life ;-) | 16:30 |
| *** aloisiojr has joined #maemo | 16:32 | |
| *** wsuetholz has joined #maemo | 16:33 | |
| *** oDuda has joined #maemo | 16:34 | |
| *** hannesw_ has joined #maemo | 16:35 | |
| cmug | Isn't the af-sb-init.sh script supposed to start the hildon-home aswell or am I mistaken? | 16:36 |
| cmug | in fremantle | 16:36 |
| cmug | to answer myself, yes, yes it is | 16:37 |
| *** nickar has joined #maemo | 16:39 | |
| *** chenca has quit IRC | 16:39 | |
| *** glima[AWAY] is now known as glima | 16:40 | |
| *** hannesw has quit IRC | 16:41 | |
| *** chenca has joined #maemo | 16:41 | |
| *** raninho has joined #maemo | 16:43 | |
| *** hannesw_ has quit IRC | 16:50 | |
| *** hannesw has joined #maemo | 16:54 | |
| *** Firehand has joined #maemo | 16:55 | |
| StOrM_NW | i was trying to flash the n810 to use stlc45xx and i follow the README and i had to set some necessary R&D flags using this command flasher --set-rd-flags=no-omap-wd,no-retu-wd,no-lifeguard-reset ... and after that i flashed with the compiled kernel ... now what i have to do to reboot the device ... i can only see the Nokia logo and a icon with the device and a screwdriver, any help really appreciate | 16:56 |
| *** pvanhoof has joined #maemo | 16:56 | |
| qwerty12 | You've taken out the USB cable? | 16:57 |
| StOrM_NW | no, do i have to? | 16:57 |
| StOrM_NW | :P | 16:57 |
| qwerty12 | Yeah, once done, remove the cable :P | 16:57 |
| StOrM_NW | k | 16:57 |
| StOrM_NW | same | 16:58 |
| StOrM_NW | any button that i need to hold? or press before try to reboot | 16:59 |
| qwerty12 | No, there is nothing that you can do apart from poppin' the battery at that point | 17:00 |
| *** oDuda has left #maemo | 17:01 | |
| *** lardman is now known as lardman|afk | 17:01 | |
| StOrM_NW | removed the baterry and same screen | 17:01 |
| StOrM_NW | kernel problem? | 17:02 |
| qwerty12 | You sure the kernel you flash is sane? | 17:02 |
| qwerty12 | *flashed | 17:02 |
| *** k-s is now known as k-s[AWAY] | 17:02 | |
| *** rsalveti has quit IRC | 17:02 | |
| *** rsalveti has joined #maemo | 17:02 | |
| StOrM_NW | i got it from git and compiled using the maemo-sdk, but i guess maybe its better if i flashed it to the stable version | 17:03 |
| StOrM_NW | i mean the diablo one | 17:03 |
| qwerty12 | Flash the original one and if that works, try your one again but instead of using --flash, use --boot | 17:03 |
| *** Vulcanis has joined #maemo | 17:04 | |
| qwerty12 | At least that way you can ascertain if the kernel you flashed is dodgy. And if it is, a removal of the battery will use the original kernel again | 17:05 |
| *** skibur has joined #maemo | 17:07 | |
| zap | hmm strange problem... I have ARM binaries running fine in scratchbox (/bin/sh for example), but programs I compile won't run (says Permission denied). Anybody encountered such a problem? | 17:07 |
| *** Dar has quit IRC | 17:07 | |
| X-Fade | zap: Did you move them away from your mmc? | 17:07 |
| RST38h | zap: they are probably on the no-exec fs | 17:07 |
| zap | permissions are ok | 17:08 |
| zap | mmmh | 17:08 |
| zap | they're on NFS | 17:08 |
| RST38h | permissions do not matter if it is mmc | 17:08 |
| zap | could be indeed | 17:08 |
| X-Fade | zap: mmc is mounted no-exec | 17:08 |
| X-Fade | ah ;) | 17:08 |
| RST38h | check how that NFS is mounted | 17:08 |
| zap | /home is NFS, the rest is in /scratchbox :) | 17:08 |
| zap | hm | 17:10 |
| *** krau has joined #maemo | 17:11 | |
| *** simon_ has quit IRC | 17:13 | |
| *** cousinitt has joined #maemo | 17:14 | |
| zap | finally worked :) | 17:15 |
| *** cousinitt has quit IRC | 17:15 | |
| StOrM_NW | what the default R&D flags? i flashed with the old version but now when i turn it on its shows the version of kernel, release and other things in green ... and when it boot i got the first setup but after 1 min or less the screen begin to fade out and shutdown the device | 17:18 |
| StOrM_NW | am i doing something wrong? i used flasher -F image -f -R | 17:18 |
| qwerty12 | To flash a kernel, it's -k - not -F | 17:19 |
| StOrM_NW | i flashed using the RX-44-DIABLO_5.2008.43-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin | 17:20 |
| qwerty12 | Oh, you reflashed. | 17:20 |
| StOrM_NW | nod | 17:21 |
| qwerty12 | There is no default rd-mode flags - Nokia don't ship their devices with it enabled | 17:21 |
| *** eichi_ has quit IRC | 17:21 | |
| StOrM_NW | so there is a way to undo flasher --set-rd-flags=no-omap-wd,no-retu-wd,no-lifeguard-reset? | 17:21 |
| qwerty12 | --disable-rd-mode | 17:22 |
| StOrM_NW | flasher --disable-rd-mode? | 17:22 |
| qwerty12 | yep | 17:22 |
| *** dougt has joined #maemo | 17:23 | |
| *** torkiano has joined #maemo | 17:24 | |
| StOrM_NW | so if i want to just test the kernel that i built i have to just try flasher -k image -f -R? | 17:24 |
| StOrM_NW | flasher -k image -b to boot right? | 17:27 |
| qwerty12 | Think so, I haven't used that option in about a year. IIRC, -l param is needed too | 17:28 |
| *** L0cutus has quit IRC | 17:28 | |
| *** mat has joined #maemo | 17:29 | |
| StOrM_NW | yeah, i guess the kernel is damaged. | 17:30 |
| StOrM_NW | thanks qwerty12 for the help | 17:30 |
| *** wazd_n800 has joined #maemo | 17:32 | |
| *** Sargun has quit IRC | 17:32 | |
| wazd_n800 | heya world | 17:33 |
| *** jpuderer has joined #maemo | 17:36 | |
| KurtKraut | What text editors we have to Maemo that has support highlights to LaTeX, bash, HTML etc? | 17:37 |
| *** thekondor has quit IRC | 17:37 | |
| *** stv0 has joined #maemo | 17:38 | |
| *** stv0 has left #maemo | 17:39 | |
| *** konttori__ has joined #maemo | 17:39 | |
| *** Vulcanis has quit IRC | 17:40 | |
| *** konttori__ has quit IRC | 17:40 | |
| *** guysoft22 has quit IRC | 17:40 | |
| *** konttori__ has joined #maemo | 17:40 | |
| mgedmin | KurtKraut: vim | 17:40 |
| mib_nrn5zf | maybe cscope | 17:41 |
| zap | KurtKraut: mcedit | 17:42 |
| *** ceyusa has joined #maemo | 17:42 | |
| *** guysoft42 has joined #maemo | 17:42 | |
| KurtKraut | zap: thanks | 17:43 |
| zap | mcedit is in the mc package | 17:43 |
| KurtKraut | zap: so it is CLI? | 17:43 |
| zap | no | 17:43 |
| zap | it's console | 17:43 |
| zap | sed is CLI :) | 17:44 |
| *** jpuderer has quit IRC | 17:44 | |
| KurtKraut | zap: What I dislike in options like vim and mcedit is the console. I think it is not easy to adjust to a font size to enhance the readability | 17:45 |
| qwerty12 | KurtKraut: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/pygtkeditor/ - dunno if it does LaTeX but it does do bash and HTML probably as it does php | 17:45 |
| zap | why not, just pop up console settings | 17:45 |
| zap | also, install the dejavu-fonts package and use the dejavu fixed font | 17:45 |
| *** dougt has quit IRC | 17:46 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has quit IRC | 17:46 | |
| KurtKraut | qwerty12: I've tried this out and it is horrible. Doesn't allow to adjust font size. I can barely see what I'm writing | 17:47 |
| zap | KurtKraut: in console you may press + and - buttons (on the top of N810) to adjust font size | 17:48 |
| *** gentooer has joined #maemo | 17:50 | |
| zap | also you may create your own .desktop file with a command like 'osso-xterm -e mcedit %f' to allow editing files directly from file manager | 17:50 |
| qwerty12 | That works? I thought the file manager goes through all its mime_open dbus-signal crap | 17:51 |
| zap | so what, it anyways finishes in the .desktop files | 17:51 |
| *** nickar has quit IRC | 17:52 | |
| *** nickar has joined #maemo | 17:52 | |
| zap | but I'm not 100% sure :) | 17:52 |
| *** jukey has left #maemo | 17:53 | |
| *** abner has quit IRC | 17:53 | |
| KurtKraut | zap: that looks great | 17:53 |
| *** k-s[AWAY] is now known as k-s | 17:53 | |
| *** mib_nrn5zf has quit IRC | 17:53 | |
| KurtKraut | zap: I noticed a problem in mcedit. It requires F1, F2,F3.. keys to input commands. It is quite annoying to do it in Maemo | 17:54 |
| *** briglia has joined #maemo | 17:55 | |
| *** rkirti is now known as rkirti|away | 17:55 | |
| wazd_n800 | jeez, 54 pages of flame bout n900 screen... | 17:56 |
| RST38h | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/06/ecs-vase-ion-1.jpg | 17:56 |
| RST38h | wazd: 54? Last time I checked there were 100 | 17:56 |
| X-Fade | depends on your settings :) | 17:57 |
| *** fab has quit IRC | 17:57 | |
| qwerty12 | RST38h: posts per page in board settings | 17:57 |
| wazd_n800 | RST38h, well, 54 is about screen only) | 17:57 |
| RST38h | qwerty: Ah! | 17:57 |
| qwerty12 | Ah, it's "Edit Options" - I was thinking in IPB | 17:58 |
| wazd_n800 | people always want to complain bout something | 17:58 |
| wazd_n800 | screen size, color sceme, d-pad, keyboard rows, hardware lock switch, power button in the wrong place, bezel, no bezel | 17:59 |
| *** wjs_ltop has joined #maemo | 18:00 | |
| wazd_n800 | "screen is 3.5", I can't read it anymore!!!" | 18:01 |
| wazd_n800 | move in closer to your eyes, dude | 18:01 |
| *** geaaru has quit IRC | 18:02 | |
| ShadowJK | this is why I want holographic screen or something, so that you can keep screen right infront of your nose, but focus into the screen a few metres away :) | 18:02 |
| *** Sesrun has quit IRC | 18:03 | |
| *** macmaN6789 has quit IRC | 18:03 | |
| ShadowJK | hm, about 20cm is closest I can comfortably focus on something | 18:04 |
| ShadowJK | :/ | 18:04 |
| X-Fade | ShadowJK: You don't need to hold it that close ;) | 18:04 |
| X-Fade | It would be almost filling your complete field of vision at that point ;) | 18:05 |
| ShadowJK | but but... the screen has so many pixels, imagine how many columns I can get in xterm with an 8pixel font | 18:05 |
| ShadowJK | if only I figure out how to focus! | 18:05 |
| X-Fade | ShadowJK: I always have that idea with these virtual reality glasses.. | 18:06 |
| ShadowJK | field of vision is 180 degrees or something, need curved tablet to fill it all :) | 18:06 |
| wazd_n800 | btw, as n900 will have USB host option and linux now has drivers for external usb displays... | 18:07 |
| *** amit_usual has quit IRC | 18:07 | |
| X-Fade | wazd_n800: And it has video out. | 18:07 |
| ShadowJK | ... and n800/n810 has usb host option, and there are drivers and support packages in extras for the usb->vga adapters? | 18:07 |
| X-Fade | And it can charge from usb :) | 18:07 |
| ShadowJK | I think all new Nokia things can charge from USB, they did sign on to the "industry standard" after all :) | 18:08 |
| wazd_n800 | can it make some coffee?) | 18:08 |
| *** nickar_ has joined #maemo | 18:08 | |
| *** zap has quit IRC | 18:09 | |
| X-Fade | wazd_n800: Talk with your upnp coffee machine? :) | 18:09 |
| *** rm_you has joined #maemo | 18:10 | |
| *** abner has joined #maemo | 18:10 | |
| wazd_n800 | And the last thing that surprises me is that many people are absolutely sure that n900 will be a phone for 100% | 18:13 |
| *** eichi_ has joined #maemo | 18:15 | |
| *** wazd_n800 has quit IRC | 18:15 | |
| *** wazd_n800 has joined #maemo | 18:15 | |
| *** nickar has quit IRC | 18:15 | |
| *** dneary has quit IRC | 18:16 | |
| X-Fade | wazd_n800: The developer device at least didn't look like a phone. | 18:17 |
| X-Fade | No speaker where you would expect your ear to be. (Just 2 speakers on the sides like N810) | 18:18 |
| rm_you | X-Fade: hey | 18:19 |
| rm_you | X-Fade: can you reset PyShop's mailing list thing plzkthx? lol... so tired of the spam :P | 18:19 |
| Myrtti | wazd_n800: I don't believe N900 will be a phone before I receive a phone call from/with it | 18:19 |
| Myrtti | but I'm a sceptic cat | 18:20 |
| Myrtti | I don't believe in pink invisible unicorns either, really | 18:20 |
| * jeremiah_ takes off pink unicorn costume. | 18:20 | |
| * wazd_n800 doesn't think n900 to be a phone too | 18:20 | |
| rm_you | didn't they pretty much say during one of the keynote things "IT WILL ONLY HAVE DATA" | 18:20 |
| rm_you | I seem to remember that | 18:21 |
| wazd_n800 | maemo is not ready to be serious phone OS | 18:22 |
| wazd_n800 | "yet" | 18:22 |
| Myrtti | I want to see it have proper SIP first :-D | 18:22 |
| wazd_n800 | maybe fremantle will change these things | 18:23 |
| Myrtti | (I can get my sip to connect only when I'm tethering it) | 18:23 |
| aquatix | Myrtti: you don't? | 18:23 |
| * aquatix believes in pink invisible unicorns | 18:23 | |
| aquatix | they are cute | 18:23 |
| Myrtti | aquatix: I don't believe in myself either | 18:23 |
| aquatix | ah | 18:23 |
| aquatix | i have that too :/ | 18:23 |
| Myrtti | aquatix: there's no chixxor in the Interhwebs | 18:23 |
| Myrtti | it's all a lie | 18:24 |
| rm_you | a great percentage of my friends on the interwebs are chixxorz, lol | 18:25 |
| rm_you | most of the people I play WoW with (yes, I play WoW... <_<) are chixxorz :P | 18:25 |
| rm_you | and people are like "r u a gurl IRL lolz?!" and they're like... "no. go away." | 18:25 |
| aquatix | Myrtti: aw, and there I was thinking you where cute too :( | 18:26 |
| Myrtti | hehe | 18:26 |
| Myrtti | more coffee | 18:26 |
| aquatix | ghehe | 18:26 |
| * aquatix hands Myrtti some decent jet-black brew | 18:26 | |
| *** nickar_ has quit IRC | 18:27 | |
| *** cjdavis has quit IRC | 18:27 | |
| rm_you | found a nice yarn shop today in Copenhagen :P | 18:27 |
| *** cjdavis has joined #maemo | 18:27 | |
| rm_you | bought some wool/alpaca mix | 18:27 |
| aquatix | hm, an omap3 netbook | 18:27 |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 18:27 | |
| *** florian has joined #maemo | 18:27 | |
| Myrtti | rm_you: ooh! | 18:28 |
| wazd_n800 | aquatix: pandora strikes back?) | 18:28 |
| rm_you | feels very nice :P | 18:28 |
| *** hannesw has quit IRC | 18:28 | |
| * Myrtti shopped from Utuna again, feels quilty for spending 34€ on two hanks of yarn | 18:28 | |
| rm_you | Going to give it to my GF when I get back to the US... ^_^ | 18:28 |
| Myrtti | awww | 18:28 |
| rm_you | she is cutest when huggling yarn :P | 18:29 |
| aquatix | Myrtti: *g* @ `quilty' | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | aquatix: the touhbook? | 18:29 |
| rm_you | Stskeeps: so, is theft here just NOT an issue? >_> | 18:30 |
| Myrtti | aquatix: MORE COFFEE | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | rm_you: people are quite relaxed, why? | 18:30 |
| rm_you | i've seen like 1500 bikes in the last two days, and only like ten of them had locks | 18:30 |
| rm_you | like, wherever i was | 18:30 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. and we leave our children in carriages outside resturants | 18:30 |
| aquatix | Stskeeps: no, some Vaio-P lookalike: http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/02/video-ecs-t800-netbook-brings-us-to-our-knees-with-android-on-1/ | 18:30 |
| rm_you | metro station, middle of nowhere, in some park... >_> | 18:30 |
| * aquatix hands Myrtti the whole stash | 18:31 | |
| rm_you | lol | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | rm_you: some of them might have been stolen ones though | 18:31 |
| rm_you | but like, zero theft rate? >_> | 18:31 |
| rm_you | lol | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | we do have theft and pick-pocketing | 18:31 |
| rm_you | i guess that's a possibility | 18:31 |
| aquatix | rm_you: or 100% theft rate ;) | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | and people stealing bikes and breaking into houses | 18:31 |
| rm_you | but like, srsly... bikes arent cheap, but NO ONE locks them up | 18:31 |
| Myrtti | have a crappy enough bike, and nobody is intrested in taking it | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | that's often the mindset | 18:31 |
| rm_you | in the US if you leave your bike for like five minutes unlocked, even on college campus which has very low theft rate, it will be gone when you get back | 18:31 |
| Stskeeps | (myrtti) | 18:32 |
| Myrtti | my bike is insured anyway | 18:32 |
| Myrtti | I'd probably get more from it if I'd throw it off a bridge or have it stolen | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | rm_you: people look weirdly at you if you start rummaging around bikes :P | 18:32 |
| Myrtti | than trying to sell it | 18:32 |
| rm_you | lol bike insurance? :P | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 18:32 |
| aquatix | Myrtti: be sure to keep the key | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | insurance fraud as well | 18:32 |
| rm_you | lol | 18:32 |
| Myrtti | rm_you: goes with the apartment insurance | 18:32 |
| rm_you | you wouldn't have to rummage, just walk straight up to one and run off | 18:32 |
| wazd_n800 | my bike was (imagine) cut out with fence part that it was locked around | 18:32 |
| qwerty12 | Myrtti: Hope they don't read IRC logs :P | 18:32 |
| rm_you | but also the parking meters are based on the clock on the car windshield that YOU set? lol | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | rm_you: yeah, - they check at times though | 18:33 |
| rm_you | it's like an entire society that is based on honesty and responsibility :P not that it's bad, just never see that in the US, EVER. :P | 18:33 |
| Myrtti | rm_you: I think that's sad :-( | 18:33 |
| rm_you | yeah, it really is | 18:34 |
| rm_you | crime in the US is horrid | 18:34 |
| Myrtti | and besides, I'm going to give my bike to my sister, she has even crappier bike than I do | 18:34 |
| rm_you | heh | 18:34 |
| *** simboss has quit IRC | 18:35 | |
| Myrtti | it is *her* bike anyway... she bought it when I was seven and I got it from her when I was 12 (she had lived in US for several years) | 18:36 |
| *** StOrM_NW has quit IRC | 18:36 | |
| Myrtti | tells something about the quality that her bike is now 3 years old rusty piece of garbage, while mine (her old) is 25 and apart from few rust spots is as new | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | rm_you: on the other hand people here rarely have guns, which causes problems when you get robbed by gangs from outside denmark.. | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | (i dont want guns here, i would prefer to keep gangs out :P) | 18:37 |
| rm_you | yeah <_< | 18:37 |
| wazd_n800 | in US every granny has a heavy machinegun :D | 18:38 |
| Myrtti | wazd_n800: and a rifle and a handgun | 18:39 |
| Myrtti | wazd_n800: "never leave your eggs in one basket" | 18:39 |
| rm_you | i own a rifle and a handgun <_< | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | but it's a bit messed up when there's boys going from window to window at a dorm and snooping in and putting light on doors and you open your door in order to shout at them and you end up having a minor conversation with him, until you secretly call the guards on their ass | 18:39 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:39 |
| *** lbt has joined #maemo | 18:40 | |
| * aquatix home | 18:40 | |
| *** Jalen64 has joined #maemo | 18:40 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has joined #maemo | 18:41 | |
| *** murrayc has joined #maemo | 18:41 | |
| *** konttori__ has quit IRC | 18:41 | |
| wazd_n800 | we have guns only for shooting bears on the streets :) | 18:41 |
| *** konttori__ has joined #maemo | 18:41 | |
| *** gomiam has joined #maemo | 18:43 | |
| *** nickar has joined #maemo | 18:43 | |
| *** monkeyiq has quit IRC | 18:45 | |
| *** trickie has quit IRC | 18:47 | |
| *** mardi__ has joined #maemo | 18:48 | |
| *** KurtKraut has quit IRC | 18:49 | |
| *** johnx has joined #maemo | 18:49 | |
| *** gomiam1 has joined #maemo | 18:49 | |
| *** gomiam has quit IRC | 18:50 | |
| *** gomiam1 is now known as gomiam | 18:50 | |
| *** parazitus has quit IRC | 18:51 | |
| *** Jalen has quit IRC | 18:56 | |
| *** wazd_n800 has quit IRC | 18:57 | |
| *** mardi__ has quit IRC | 18:59 | |
| *** ijon_ has quit IRC | 19:00 | |
| *** StOrM_NW has joined #maemo | 19:07 | |
| *** gentooer has quit IRC | 19:07 | |
| *** thopiekar has joined #maemo | 19:08 | |
| *** amr has joined #maemo | 19:11 | |
| *** nickar_ has joined #maemo | 19:11 | |
| *** greentux_ has quit IRC | 19:23 | |
| *** t_s_o has quit IRC | 19:24 | |
| *** flavioribeiro has joined #maemo | 19:25 | |
| *** nickar has quit IRC | 19:28 | |
| *** fab has joined #maemo | 19:28 | |
| *** mardi__ has joined #maemo | 19:31 | |
| *** matt_c has quit IRC | 19:31 | |
| *** _BuBU has joined #Maemo | 19:32 | |
| *** dieb_ has quit IRC | 19:34 | |
| *** wazd_n800 has joined #maemo | 19:35 | |
| *** jegp has joined #maemo | 19:35 | |
| *** vingtetun has quit IRC | 19:35 | |
| *** jegp has left #maemo | 19:35 | |
| *** konttori___ has joined #maemo | 19:37 | |
| *** konttori__ has quit IRC | 19:37 | |
| *** monkeyiq has joined #maemo | 19:38 | |
| *** ijon_ has joined #maemo | 19:38 | |
| *** beavis has joined #maemo | 19:38 | |
| *** bergie has quit IRC | 19:39 | |
| minra- | maemo xchat vulnerable to disconnect exploit - june 2009 | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | lovely, prod qwerty12 | 19:42 |
| *** t_s_o has joined #maemo | 19:42 | |
| minra- | k | 19:42 |
| qwerty12 | Depends, which version are you using? | 19:42 |
| minra- | 2.8.4 | 19:43 |
| qwerty12 | Yeah, I only hack on 2.8.6 in extras-devel | 19:43 |
| minra- | ah | 19:43 |
| minra- | can u update release ver? | 19:43 |
| minra- | i got booted for a couple days | 19:44 |
| minra- | no biggie but still | 19:44 |
| minra- | ok just now again | 19:44 |
| minra- | i seem to be in some combatative chans | 19:44 |
| *** tulkastaldo has joined #maemo | 19:45 | |
| *** _BuBU1 has quit IRC | 19:46 | |
| qwerty12 | I keep that version in Extras-devel because I don't trust myself enough to ever promote it :) | 19:46 |
| minra- | ah | 19:46 |
| minra- | ok will add devel | 19:47 |
| *** Sesrun has joined #maemo | 19:48 | |
| *** Meizirkki has joined #maemo | 19:48 | |
| minra- | how ? | 19:48 |
| *** krutt has quit IRC | 19:49 | |
| qwerty12 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras#Extras-devel | 19:49 |
| *** minra- has quit IRC | 19:50 | |
| *** minra has joined #maemo | 19:51 | |
| *** p-f has joined #maemo | 19:52 | |
| p-f | Has anyone gotten Mnemosyne to run on maemo (n810)? | 19:54 |
| *** lardman|afk is now known as lardman | 19:54 | |
| wazd_n800 | p-f: well | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | hm, i think i saw some flash card thing | 19:54 |
| *** nickar_ has quit IRC | 19:54 | |
| p-f | Stskeeps, there's an anki port, if that's what you mean | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:55 |
| p-f | it's fairly unstable from what I've seen so far | 19:55 |
| minra | qwerty12, new xchat april 1 2009 still vulnerable | 19:55 |
| *** Sho_ has joined #maemo | 19:55 | |
| wazd_n800 | p-f: we're working on full-featured flashcard app based on mnemosyne right now | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | p-f: it's a GSoC project | 19:55 |
| *** b0unc3_ has joined #maemo | 19:55 | |
| qwerty12 | http://wiki.maemo.org/GSoC_2009/Projects/Mnemosyne_for_Maemo | 19:55 |
| p-f | I saw that but it may be a while until it's up and running from the look of things | 19:56 |
| *** johnx has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| Stskeeps | such are gsoc projects :P | 19:56 |
| p-f | and since Mnemosyne is theoretically portable, I was wondering whether anyone had managed to get the original version running | 19:56 |
| * Stskeeps wonders if it runs on mer | 19:56 | |
| qwerty12 | minra: Hmm, XChat webpage only has 2.8.6 source. The author puts his time into the windows version for $$$ it seems | 19:56 |
| * p-f wonders what mer is | 19:56 | |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 19:56 | |
| Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer | 19:56 |
| minra | i asking for exploit now | 19:57 |
| p-f | oh dear | 19:57 |
| p-f | why did you have to paste this link when I'm the middle of finals? | 19:57 |
| p-f | now I have to install it instead of studying | 19:57 |
| *** andrei1089 has joined #maemo | 19:57 | |
| Stskeeps | sorry, i have the same problem when people give me gadgets out of the blue :P | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | i have to keep my greedy fingers off the n810 i just got from nokia | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:58 |
| p-f | I bought one a while ago :) | 19:58 |
| p-f | it's neat if you ignore the horrendously slow webpage rendering | 19:58 |
| *** rkirti|away has quit IRC | 19:58 | |
| qwerty12 | p-f: Tear | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | ah. you should get Tear | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | your sanity will thank you | 19:59 |
| p-f | (actually, I'm not sure whether it's a rendering issue) | 19:59 |
| lcuk | whats a webpage/ | 19:59 |
| p-f | webpage is short for html (aherm) | 19:59 |
| *** Sargun has joined #maemo | 19:59 | |
| lcuk | cool | 19:59 |
| * p-f smirks | 19:59 | |
| lcuk | (whats html though?) | 19:59 |
| lcuk | :D | 19:59 |
| *** rkirti has joined #maemo | 20:00 | |
| p-f | thanks qwerty12 / Stskeeps, I'll have a look | 20:00 |
| p-f | the funny thing is I'm not sure whether it's a rendering issue - the browser just sits there saying "Connecting to blah" forever | 20:00 |
| p-f | either way, it can't hurt to try Tear | 20:01 |
| *** juergbi has joined #maemo | 20:01 | |
| minra | hehe | 20:01 |
| minra | i love this. we got /kick for maemo xchat | 20:02 |
| Meizirkki | i still can't kick myself :( | 20:03 |
| GAN800 | p-f, that's a connectivity issue. | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | GAN800: scaringly enough i'm not always certain of that | 20:04 |
| GAN800 | Stskeeps, well, it aint rendering. | 20:04 |
| p-f | GAN800, I'm getting incredible speeds in software other than the browser | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | GAN800: i'm willing to blame network code :P | 20:05 |
| *** TeccaNina has joined #maemo | 20:06 | |
| TeccaNina | Hi | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | lo | 20:06 |
| minra | qwerty12, got a minute? | 20:07 |
| qwerty12 | minra: sure | 20:07 |
| minra | chat TeccaNina pls | 20:07 |
| minra | pm | 20:07 |
| wazd_n800 | brand new way to date someone :D | 20:08 |
| lcuk | wazd_n800, its not new - its staple of school romances "my friend said he fancies you, will you go out with him?" | 20:09 |
| wazd_n800 | lcuk, heh) | 20:10 |
| *** Meizirkki has quit IRC | 20:10 | |
| *** b0unc3 has quit IRC | 20:12 | |
| *** hannesw has joined #maemo | 20:12 | |
| *** z4chh has quit IRC | 20:13 | |
| Stskeeps | wazd_n800: we can actually make the black keyboard it seems like | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | wazd_n800: him-arabic is actually a generic layout engine | 20:16 |
| *** thopiekar has quit IRC | 20:18 | |
| *** matt_c has joined #maemo | 20:20 | |
| *** Pebby_ has joined #maemo | 20:21 | |
| *** trofi has joined #maemo | 20:21 | |
| *** n6pfk has joined #maemo | 20:21 | |
| wazd_n800 | Stskeeps, whoa! | 20:22 |
| *** rkirti has quit IRC | 20:22 | |
| wazd_n800 | Stskeeps, you mean that large kb on my artwork? (not fs one) | 20:23 |
| Stskeeps | wazd_n800: yes for instance | 20:23 |
| *** rkirti has joined #maemo | 20:23 | |
| *** StOrMNW has joined #maemo | 20:24 | |
| wazd_n800 | that's superawesome! | 20:24 |
| *** qwerty12_N800 has joined #maemo | 20:25 | |
| wazd_n800 | any help from my side needed? | 20:25 |
| Stskeeps | looking, sec :P | 20:26 |
| *** z4chh has joined #maemo | 20:26 | |
| *** rkirti has quit IRC | 20:27 | |
| Stskeeps | i think we really also need to start designing keyboard layouts | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | see http://home.foolab.org/svn/projects/him-arabic/trunk/data/en.xml for instance | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | i think we can adjust it to further act better | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | (it takes utf-8 too) | 20:28 |
| lcuk | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/ | 20:29 |
| *** ceyusa has quit IRC | 20:30 | |
| *** stiev3 has joined #maemo | 20:33 | |
| *** ssvb has joined #maemo | 20:34 | |
| *** dougt_ has joined #maemo | 20:38 | |
| *** greentux_ has joined #maemo | 20:38 | |
| *** __t has quit IRC | 20:41 | |
| *** mlpug has joined #maemo | 20:41 | |
| * lardman heads out for a birthday drink or three | 20:42 | |
| lardman | night all | 20:42 |
| *** lardman has quit IRC | 20:42 | |
| *** eocanha has quit IRC | 20:42 | |
| *** briglia has quit IRC | 20:44 | |
| *** StOrM_NW has quit IRC | 20:44 | |
| *** simon_ has joined #maemo | 20:45 | |
| *** alexga has quit IRC | 20:45 | |
| *** Anunakin has joined #maemo | 20:45 | |
| Anunakin | hi all | 20:46 |
| *** qwerty12 has quit IRC | 20:47 | |
| *** AD-N770 has quit IRC | 20:50 | |
| *** TeccaNina has quit IRC | 20:52 | |
| *** gomiam has quit IRC | 20:53 | |
| *** TimRiker has joined #maemo | 20:54 | |
| *** thopiekar has joined #maemo | 20:54 | |
| *** L0cutus has joined #maemo | 20:55 | |
| *** dl9pf has quit IRC | 20:59 | |
| *** dl9pf has joined #maemo | 20:59 | |
| *** hellwolf has quit IRC | 21:00 | |
| *** wazd_n800 has quit IRC | 21:01 | |
| *** macmaN6789 has joined #maemo | 21:01 | |
| *** thopiekar has quit IRC | 21:02 | |
| *** t_s_o has quit IRC | 21:02 | |
| *** p-f has quit IRC | 21:03 | |
| *** _BuBU has quit IRC | 21:07 | |
| *** rsalveti has quit IRC | 21:07 | |
| *** _BuBU has joined #Maemo | 21:07 | |
| *** mardi__ has quit IRC | 21:07 | |
| *** rsalveti has joined #maemo | 21:10 | |
| *** calvaris has quit IRC | 21:10 | |
| *** rm_you has quit IRC | 21:10 | |
| *** murrayc has quit IRC | 21:11 | |
| *** andrei1089 has quit IRC | 21:13 | |
| *** Anunakin has quit IRC | 21:14 | |
| Stskeeps | if anyone wants to help out with on screen keyboard layouts: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=293004 | 21:15 |
| *** macmaN6789 has quit IRC | 21:16 | |
| *** macmaN6789 has joined #maemo | 21:16 | |
| *** Jaffa has joined #maemo | 21:16 | |
| Stskeeps | lo jaffa | 21:16 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 21:16 |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: Good weekend? | 21:16 |
| Stskeeps | definately | 21:16 |
| *** lpotter has quit IRC | 21:16 | |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: meeting about Ubuntu MID & Mer in #ubuntu-mobile in 45 mins btw if you want to listen in | 21:17 |
| *** andrei1089 has joined #maemo | 21:17 | |
| Jaffa | Stskeeps: ta; will open a window | 21:17 |
| Stskeeps | Jaffa: http://pastebin.com/d7c524616 | 21:18 |
| Stskeeps | is outline | 21:18 |
| *** lpotter_ has joined #maemo | 21:20 | |
| *** lpotter_ is now known as lpotter | 21:20 | |
| *** setanta has joined #maemo | 21:21 | |
| *** stv0 has joined #maemo | 21:24 | |
| *** stv0 has left #maemo | 21:25 | |
| *** torkiano has quit IRC | 21:27 | |
| *** neostrider has joined #maemo | 21:28 | |
| *** setanta has quit IRC | 21:28 | |
| *** rmt has joined #maemo | 21:28 | |
| *** torkiano has joined #maemo | 21:29 | |
| *** setanta has joined #maemo | 21:29 | |
| *** skibur has quit IRC | 21:32 | |
| *** bilboed-pi has quit IRC | 21:33 | |
| *** setanta has quit IRC | 21:35 | |
| *** hellwolf has joined #maemo | 21:36 | |
| *** Vulcanis has joined #maemo | 21:38 | |
| lbt | CPH weekend piccies : http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/mozmae/ | 21:39 |
| *** setanta has joined #maemo | 21:39 | |
| Stskeeps | ah, yours :) | 21:41 |
| *** cjdavis has quit IRC | 21:41 | |
| *** setanta has joined #maemo | 21:41 | |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96141280@N00/3587963637/ is fantastic :P | 21:42 |
| lbt | Some are mine... anyone who tags "mozmae" though | 21:42 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i know | 21:43 |
| *** murrayc has joined #maemo | 21:43 | |
| *** setanta has quit IRC | 21:43 | |
| *** setanta has joined #maemo | 21:43 | |
| *** Sesrun is now known as Sesrun|work | 21:44 | |
| *** mgedmin has quit IRC | 21:44 | |
| *** harbaum_ has joined #maemo | 21:50 | |
| *** avs has joined #maemo | 21:51 | |
| *** flo_lap has joined #maemo | 21:51 | |
| *** flo_lap is now known as florian | 21:52 | |
| *** setanta has quit IRC | 21:55 | |
| minra | got kicked from server again on xchat | 21:59 |
| *** mardi__ has joined #maemo | 21:59 | |
| minra | i am going to start using the exploit on maemo users in 6 weeks | 22:00 |
| minra | f y i | 22:00 |
| Stskeeps | hint: publically logged channel | 22:00 |
| Proteous | heh | 22:00 |
| minra | no damage Stskeeps | 22:00 |
| *** christefano has joined #maemo | 22:00 | |
| *** murrayc has quit IRC | 22:01 | |
| fiferboy | lbt: I have overshoot working (more or less) without any changes to QAbstractSlider | 22:01 |
| lbt | OK, I'm in a Mer/Ubuntu meeting on #ubuntu-mobile .... back l8r | 22:02 |
| fiferboy | Gotcha | 22:02 |
| minra | law here requires damages. 6 weeks is enough to fix xchat exploit or insert a warning that is insecure | 22:03 |
| Myrtti | minra: what on earth are you on? | 22:04 |
| *** _berto_ has quit IRC | 22:04 | |
| minra | just saying we should get it fixed soonish | 22:04 |
| Myrtti | [22:00] < minra> i am going to start using the exploit on maemo users in 6 weeks | 22:04 |
| Myrtti | GEE. That's a healthy way of addressing the problem | 22:05 |
| minra | yes | 22:05 |
| Myrtti | "I've got shit in my hands, so I'll just wipe it on everyone elses clothes as well" | 22:05 |
| luke-jr | minra: law requires damages, but not FreeNode ;) | 22:06 |
| minra | just on friends | 22:06 |
| luke-jr | you'll get K-lined | 22:06 |
| minra | oh | 22:06 |
| lcuk | minra, you best read the description on downloads - you purchased the device without any sort of xchat installed :) | 22:06 |
| minra | nm then | 22:06 |
| * Myrtti has no sympathy | 22:06 | |
| minra | you want me to fix it? | 22:07 |
| lcuk | thats a better way to be :) | 22:08 |
| *** sjgadsby has joined #maemo | 22:08 | |
| minra | i just want to raise concern and attention by folks with a clue | 22:09 |
| luke-jr | minra: my viewpoint is "screw X-Chat crap" ☺ | 22:09 |
| *** |R has quit IRC | 22:09 | |
| minra | heh | 22:10 |
| minra | i dont even know the string | 22:10 |
| * Myrtti huggles her irssi ♥ | 22:10 | |
| Myrtti | minra: try to join #ubuntu with it | 22:11 |
| Myrtti | (with the xchat) | 22:11 |
| minra | ok | 22:11 |
| Myrtti | you'll get tested, and might be that you'll be disconnected... | 22:12 |
| minra | see if i get kicked | 22:12 |
| Myrtti | but anyway, there's also instructions on how to fix it, if the exploit is what I think it is | 22:12 |
| *** Firebird has joined #maemo | 22:16 | |
| *** minra has quit IRC | 22:19 | |
| Myrtti | yup, that's it :-D | 22:19 |
| *** minra has joined #maemo | 22:19 | |
| qwerty12_N800 | Fuck. That's a shitter. | 22:20 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 22:20 |
| Myrtti | check your router settings ;-) | 22:20 |
| qwerty12_N800 | Myrtti: Is that the DCC one? | 22:20 |
| Myrtti | yup | 22:20 |
| luke-jr | um? | 22:21 |
| qwerty12_N800 | It won't affect xchat on my N800 :\ | 22:21 |
| luke-jr | it's not a X-Chat issue | 22:21 |
| luke-jr | it's a router issue | 22:21 |
| qwerty12_N800 | I had someone trying to do it to me & I was still on | 22:21 |
| *** avs has quit IRC | 22:21 | |
| *** lopz has joined #maemo | 22:21 | |
| *** hannesw has quit IRC | 22:22 | |
| *** juergbi has quit IRC | 22:23 | |
| lopz | hola | 22:23 |
| minra | sorry i was misinformed about xchat security on maemo - pls ignore | 22:25 |
| *** t_s_o has joined #maemo | 22:26 | |
| *** jgoss has quit IRC | 22:27 | |
| *** andrewfblack has joined #maemo | 22:28 | |
| *** ScriptRipper has quit IRC | 22:29 | |
| *** hannesw has joined #maemo | 22:31 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has quit IRC | 22:31 | |
| *** CutMeOwnThroat has quit IRC | 22:33 | |
| *** CutMeOwnThroat has joined #maemo | 22:33 | |
| *** FilipLinux4BE has joined #maemo | 22:35 | |
| *** ciroip has left #maemo | 22:37 | |
| *** ciroip has joined #maemo | 22:38 | |
| *** abner has quit IRC | 22:39 | |
| *** glima is now known as glima[AWAY] | 22:40 | |
| *** mlpug has quit IRC | 22:41 | |
| *** abner has joined #maemo | 22:42 | |
| *** harbaum_ has quit IRC | 22:43 | |
| *** glima[AWAY] is now known as glima | 22:47 | |
| *** macmaN6789 has quit IRC | 22:50 | |
| *** etrunko has joined #maemo | 23:00 | |
| *** wazd_n800 has joined #maemo | 23:03 | |
| *** beavis is now known as krutt | 23:04 | |
| *** raninho has quit IRC | 23:04 | |
| radic | Stskeeps: I it possible to port the Unreal3.2 for the N800? | 23:04 |
| *** dlmarti has quit IRC | 23:05 | |
| *** konttori___ has quit IRC | 23:06 | |
| *** zakkm has joined #maemo | 23:10 | |
| *** Sesrun|work has left #maemo | 23:10 | |
| *** neostrider has quit IRC | 23:11 | |
| *** christefano1 has joined #maemo | 23:16 | |
| *** GAN800 has quit IRC | 23:16 | |
| *** macmaN6789 has joined #maemo | 23:23 | |
| fiferboy | lbt: I'll have to talk to you about it tomorrow | 23:26 |
| lbt | ok - mail me patches? | 23:26 |
| lbt | we're still on Ubuntu-MID / Mer interworking :) | 23:27 |
| *** hannesw has quit IRC | 23:27 | |
| lbt | sorry I've not been about tonight ;) | 23:27 |
| fiferboy | lbt: That's no problem. | 23:27 |
| fiferboy | I have a couple of more things to work out, then I'll mail you the patches | 23:27 |
| *** b-man16 has joined #maemo | 23:28 | |
| *** b-man16 is now known as b-man | 23:28 | |
| *** b-man is now known as Guest33491 | 23:28 | |
| *** Guest33491 is now known as b-man16 | 23:28 | |
| *** hannesw has joined #maemo | 23:29 | |
| *** fiferboy has quit IRC | 23:30 | |
| *** chenca has quit IRC | 23:31 | |
| *** christefano has quit IRC | 23:34 | |
| *** etrunko has quit IRC | 23:35 | |
| *** b-man16 is now known as FireFox | 23:36 | |
| *** macmaN6789 has quit IRC | 23:36 | |
| *** NishanthMenon has joined #maemo | 23:37 | |
| *** setanta has joined #maemo | 23:38 | |
| *** dieb_ has joined #maemo | 23:40 | |
| *** qwerty12_N800 has quit IRC | 23:42 | |
| *** dougt_ has quit IRC | 23:42 | |
| *** qwerty12_N800 has joined #maemo | 23:42 | |
| *** simon_ has quit IRC | 23:44 | |
| *** sjgadsby has quit IRC | 23:44 | |
| *** simon_ has joined #maemo | 23:44 | |
| *** FireFox has left #maemo | 23:45 | |
| *** fab has quit IRC | 23:49 | |
| *** melmoth has quit IRC | 23:52 | |
| *** florian has quit IRC | 23:55 | |
| *** florian has joined #maemo | 23:55 | |
| *** etrunko has joined #maemo | 23:56 | |
| *** setanta has quit IRC | 23:56 | |
| *** timeless_mbp has joined #maemo | 23:57 | |
| *** setanta has joined #maemo | 23:57 | |
| *** drjnut has quit IRC | 23:58 | |
| *** drjnut has joined #maemo | 23:58 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
