| ShadowJK | My guess is no regular gsm/3g voice :-) | 00:00 |
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| Macer | kung fu the legend continues came out 17 years ago | 00:00 |
| Macer | i feel old :( | 00:00 |
| parigaudi | why not regular gsm/3g voice? | 00:01 |
| crashanddie | parigaudi, because it would be absolute shite? | 00:01 |
| parigaudi | how that? | 00:01 |
| crashanddie | speak englese? | 00:01 |
| Macer | hm. just out of curiousity the new tablet will have an hspda modem correct? | 00:02 |
| ShadowJK | parigaudi, I am guessing they don't want maemo to "take over" from symbian yet. | 00:02 |
| ShadowJK | Macer, yes it's believed so | 00:02 |
| crashanddie | ShadowJK, I don't want a bloody phone in there | 00:02 |
| ShadowJK | since nokia has code for it | 00:02 |
| Macer | hm.. so it can make direct phone calls? | 00:02 |
| ShadowJK | Macer, not necessarily? | 00:02 |
| crashanddie | Macer, nope | 00:02 |
| parigaudi | i mean, nobody forces you to use that feature if it has it, and having hdspa without being able to phone kinda forces you to have two devices with you where you could have all in one | 00:02 |
| Macer | well. that sucks :) | 00:02 |
| ShadowJK | I mean, go buy a huawei modem and see if you can figure out how to make it do a regular call | 00:03 |
| crashanddie | parigaudi, ok, lemme get this straight | 00:03 |
| * mgedmin had crashanddie's reaction to bloody hardware keyboards, and changed his minds 15 minutes after getting a n810 | 00:03 | |
| Macer | so you pop a sim into it just to have something that can't be used for voice? | 00:03 |
| mgedmin | um, his mind | 00:03 |
| Macer | i mean there's always skype but still | 00:03 |
| mgedmin | I only got one | 00:03 |
| ShadowJK | Macer, yeah like on laptops with 3G | 00:03 |
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| ShadowJK | that just give you internets | 00:03 |
| crashanddie | mgedmin, actually, I still think the keyboard on the n810 is shit | 00:03 |
| Macer | ShadowJK: hm. usually that would require a seperate acct/payment | 00:03 |
| mgedmin | crashanddie: do you have one? | 00:03 |
| parigaudi | the fact of having to carry around two devices (which are close to the same hardware-wise) is kinda pointless | 00:03 |
| crashanddie | mgedmin, yup | 00:03 |
| Macer | ah well :) | 00:03 |
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| ShadowJK | dunno, I can get 4 parallell sim cards to my primary account :) | 00:04 |
| mgedmin | do you think the n810 would be a better device without it? | 00:04 |
| Macer | ShadowJK: i never tried that | 00:04 |
| crashanddie | mgedmin, probably | 00:04 |
| Macer | wonder if tmob does it | 00:04 |
| mgedmin | all I can say is: I admire your principles | 00:04 |
| Macer | then again though. if android gets a little better there won't be a need for the newer tablet | 00:04 |
| Macer | like if it had cups | 00:04 |
| crashanddie | mgedmin, less bulkier, no slider, so we could probably have had a bigger battery or GPS antenna | 00:04 |
| Macer | i want cups on my damn phone :) | 00:05 |
| mgedmin | hmm | 00:05 |
| ShadowJK | I don't find android attractive at all to me.. atleast not with the current tivoized devices and java-only :) | 00:05 |
| lcuk | i have refound the power of the n810 keyboard :) | 00:05 |
| ShadowJK | I love maemo because most of the regular desktop software I use works on it | 00:05 |
| crashanddie | mgedmin, and also: I was probably in a fanboi mode 15 minutes after getting the n810, truth be told, I booted my n810 for the first time in months yesterday | 00:06 |
| Macer | ShadowJK: heh well... it has some linux stuff on it also ;) | 00:06 |
| parigaudi | ShadowJK: exactly that pseudo-open java-only not-so-really-linux is kinda the total shit about android | 00:06 |
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| crashanddie | parigaudi, pseudo-java as well | 00:06 |
| mgedmin | crashanddie: if I weren't reading e-books on mine, it'd probably also be lying in a drawer for months | 00:06 |
| Macer | parigaudi: haha | 00:06 |
| ShadowJK | parigaudi, agreed | 00:06 |
| parigaudi | crashanddie: indeed | 00:07 |
| Macer | ShadowJK: but it can be used on a phone ;) | 00:07 |
| Macer | once it gets androffice and cups it will be awesome | 00:07 |
| crashanddie | parigaudi, though, iPhone isn't any better, with all the obj-C going round | 00:07 |
| Macer | maybe a few more apps | 00:07 |
| parigaudi | Macer: that's the one big plus: you don't have to carry around _two_ devices | 00:07 |
| Macer | parigaudi: yeah | 00:07 |
| ShadowJK | I wonder how long until someone makes Mer able to do calls on the Freerunner :) | 00:07 |
| Macer | parigaudi: well. you need a bluetooth keyboard | 00:07 |
| crashanddie | though, people, we have to agree on something: people insisting on developing a whole app in Python on a 400 Mhz CPU? Seriously, they're just being masochists | 00:07 |
| parigaudi | crashanddie: and apple holding developers in an iron grip | 00:07 |
| Macer | but i would rather carry a bt keyboard and G1 than a phone bt keyboard and tablet | 00:08 |
| parigaudi | Macer: why the bluetooth keyboard? | 00:08 |
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| Macer | parigaudi: for the office app ;) | 00:08 |
| Macer | i was using my n800 for school | 00:08 |
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| Macer | so i didn't have to carry a laptop. everything would fit in my pockets | 00:08 |
| * ShadowJK rarely carries his N800 and N810 anywhere | 00:08 | |
| crashanddie | I don't know what kind of work you guys are doing, but I could never use my n810 for work... | 00:08 |
| Macer | would even make pdfs of my books so i wouldn't have to carry those either | 00:08 |
| ShadowJK | but I use them heavily, mostly at home | 00:08 |
| Macer | heh | 00:08 |
| Macer | especially after it got cups | 00:09 |
| Macer | cups was awesome on the n800. i could just show up at home and print over wifi | 00:09 |
| crashanddie | you've got a cups server at home? | 00:09 |
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| Macer | er...i have a wifi laser printer .. cups supports it | 00:09 |
| parigaudi | me neither, i want a device that goes into a pocket, not an office system (when i want to do office stuff, i have a computer, when i'm mobile i wan't something really mobile) | 00:09 |
| crashanddie | oh man, and I thought I was a geek | 00:09 |
| Macer | the n800 had cups on it for the printing | 00:09 |
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| Macer | parigaudi: well.. the n800 was good for that for the most part | 00:10 |
| ShadowJK | when I'm mobile I make do with putty on my E70 :/ | 00:10 |
| parigaudi | yeah well, i can live without cups on a mobile device | 00:11 |
| Myrtti | n800 <3 | 00:11 |
| lcuk | n800 would be perfect if it had a keyboard :P | 00:11 |
| lcuk | why would you want to put your cups on device ? wont you spill stuff on it? | 00:11 |
| crashanddie | timeless, I'll give you a free ticket to London if you get SA or 2FA to work on maemo ;) | 00:12 |
| Macer | lcuk: :-P | 00:12 |
| Myrtti | lcuk: ;-) | 00:12 |
| * Myrtti hearts her n800 | 00:12 | |
| Macer | n800 was good but well.. the lack of qwerty | 00:13 |
| lcuk | have you give nyour 770 any love recently/ | 00:13 |
| Macer | it drove me nuts pecking at it | 00:13 |
| crashanddie | timeless, SC support is a requirement though, I'll recompile AC to work as middleware on it :P | 00:13 |
| * lcuk has no bandage on :O | 00:13 | |
| crashanddie | AAAAHHHH ZOMBIE | 00:13 |
| lcuk | it is | 00:13 |
| Myrtti | lcuk: it's on the windowsill back in Warboys, waiting for an inspiration to come and tell me what to do with it | 00:14 |
| lcuk | the skin all peeled off before - i couldv literally given the police my fingerprint | 00:14 |
| crashanddie | for some reason I'm pretty sure nobody understood what I said to timeless | 00:14 |
| crashanddie | timeless, awesome dude, we can talk in coded messages! | 00:14 |
| lcuk | Myrtti, if it runs os2008 stabily for you try bluemaemo | 00:14 |
| lcuk | make it a remote control/keyboard for 800 | 00:14 |
| Myrtti | lcuk: doesnt | 00:14 |
| parigaudi | unrelated question: what's the status of Qt for Maemo? i believe Nokia/Qt announced they would port it but still haven't? | 00:14 |
| crashanddie | parigaudi, I can tell you this much: | 00:14 |
| StsN800 | it's ported | 00:15 |
| lcuk | its available | 00:15 |
| Myrtti | will prolly put Mer on it and let bf do funky stuff with it and the home automation system | 00:15 |
| lcuk | but unofficially | 00:15 |
| Macer | parigaudi: i've used qt3 on it. with kde 3.5 | 00:15 |
| lcuk | heh | 00:15 |
| Macer | never tried kde4 | 00:15 |
| StsN800 | qt4.5 too | 00:15 |
| lcuk | install the 770 in him and control him from 800 | 00:15 |
| parigaudi | yeah well i don't care about kde, just qt, but i need qt 4.5, not qt3 | 00:15 |
| lcuk | you would be in heaven lol | 00:15 |
| lcuk | "do the dishes" | 00:15 |
| Macer | i hate doing laundry | 00:16 |
| Myrtti | lcuk: but I can tell him over gtalk with my n800 to do the dishes downstairs already - he has n800 himself | 00:16 |
| Macer | next time i think i will just take it somewhere | 00:16 |
| parigaudi | Stskeeps: do i understand correctly that it was ported, but not by Qt Software, but other guys (presumably those who wanted kde on the n810)? | 00:16 |
| Myrtti | I don't mind laundry, I hate the dishes | 00:16 |
| Macer | Myrtti: laundry is a pain. at least you can knock out dishes in one movement | 00:16 |
| lcuk | hehehe | 00:16 |
| Macer | :) | 00:16 |
| parigaudi | StsN800: do i understand correctly that it was ported, but not by Qt Software, but other guys (presumably those who wanted kde on the n810)? | 00:16 |
| Macer | laundry takes multiple trips and waiting | 00:17 |
| crashanddie | "Why did she kick you?" "I wanted a fellatio but the wifi died before it transmitted "job"" | 00:17 |
| StsN800 | parigaudi, http://qt4.garage.maemo.org/ | 00:17 |
| lcuk | parigaudi, no, those wanting qt on tablet | 00:17 |
| lcuk | go visit the project and see | 00:17 |
| parigaudi | sorry, tab completion on quassel sux | 00:17 |
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| parigaudi | cool thx guys | 00:17 |
| Myrtti | crashanddie: mrhmgh | 00:17 |
| Myrtti | crashanddie: you fail in funneh | 00:17 |
| crashanddie | Myrtti, and you fail in life, kiddo, now go back to your cave and learn yourself some English | 00:18 |
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| lcuk | comically challenged ;) | 00:18 |
| lbt | parigaudi: some people use the Mer port of Qt on Maemo. Also there's no current plan to stop the Diablo branch AFAIK | 00:18 |
| Macer | kung fu the legend continues is so pseudo 80s :) | 00:18 |
| roope | Qt is cute. | 00:18 |
| Macer | you know the early 90s where they were making that transition away from the 80s | 00:18 |
| lbt | heh | 00:18 |
| lcuk | oi crashanddie you are an overtired cranky git | 00:18 |
| crashanddie | lcuk, better than a touch-based UI designer who gets his fingers chopped off :P | 00:18 |
| Macer | like the highlander show with the purple versaci suits | 00:19 |
| crashanddie | lcuk, yeah, probably true there | 00:19 |
| Myrtti | crashanddie: you fail in sarcasm. Also, extra brownie points for telling a non-native to go learn English. | 00:19 |
| Myrtti | sarcasm-dar broken ahoy | 00:19 |
| crashanddie | Myrtti, I ain't native, dumb fuck | 00:19 |
| crashanddie | and that's not the first time I told you that | 00:19 |
| crashanddie | why is it people think the fact they weren't raised with a language is an excuse to make mistakes? | 00:20 |
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| Myrtti | crashanddie: then it might not be the first time that I've told you I'm not *EITHER* | 00:20 |
| crashanddie | anyway, have a nice evening everyone, I'm out | 00:20 |
| parigaudi | better yet: i ain't NO native (to be pronounced with a heavy southern Georgia dialect) | 00:20 |
| Myrtti | ho-hum | 00:20 |
| * Myrtti goes to fiddle with thesixtyone.com | 00:20 | |
| roope | People fail at being not easily annoyed. | 00:21 |
| crashanddie | I'm always afraid when I hear fiddling followed by a website... I've been traumatised by lemonparty.org | 00:21 |
| * lbt wanders off to a nicer channel... | 00:21 | |
| * lcuk agrees | 00:21 | |
| lcuk | seb fuck off till you are more sociable | 00:21 |
| crashanddie | aye, take care | 00:21 |
| roope | :) | 00:21 |
| coldboot | haha lemonparty | 00:22 |
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| coldboot | Does anyone know how to get scratchbox 2 running the x86 native arm compiler? | 00:22 |
| coldboot | I think my sb2 is running the arm arm compiler, which runs really slow. | 00:23 |
| lcuk | roope, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo ive got an update :) | 00:23 |
| coldboot | I have the x86 toolchain set... | 00:23 |
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| roope | lcuk: it looks very smooth. | 00:25 |
| lcuk | yeah it feels it too | 00:25 |
| lcuk | pieces of it will fall over at any second, but im gettin into my mojo with it | 00:26 |
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| lcuk | roope, did you see the searching? | 00:28 |
| roope | yes, looks sweet. | 00:28 |
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| amr | sup yo | 00:28 |
| Myrtti | wohoo, leveled up to level 5 \o/ | 00:29 |
| lbt | X-Fade: when you see this... :) How do I get empowered to manage Mer bugs? | 00:31 |
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| Macer | damn i'm on load #9 | 00:36 |
| * Macer goes to find something productive to do | 00:37 | |
| Macer | i just found a flaw in the zimbra ypl licensing :) if you use their login you are forced to use their giant ZIMBRA logo | 00:38 |
| Macer | but if you use a different portal.. you are golden | 00:38 |
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| tank-man | forget it, I like to be safe | 01:58 |
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| lcuk | have you seen the video yet gan? :$ | 02:36 |
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| lcuk | in your pimpin costume :D | 02:43 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Gonna finish the job Nokia started. | 02:44 |
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| Jaffa | Morning | 09:07 |
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| StsN801 | matan, in initramfs | 10:26 |
| StsN801 | its cpio gzipped, with a uboot header (extract from gzip magic) | 10:27 |
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| lcuk | mornin maemo | 11:27 |
| RST38h | moo lcuk | 11:28 |
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| lcuk | hey rst \o | 11:29 |
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| Infekta | whats that mean? | 11:37 |
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| lcuk | Infekta, whats what mean | 11:42 |
| tank-man | its a head with a hand in the air | 11:44 |
| tank-man | \o | 11:44 |
| Infekta | said i recieved a ''CTCP VERSION'' | 11:44 |
| tank-man | means someone wants to know what irc client you are using | 11:45 |
| lcuk | u were hacked! | 11:45 |
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| tank-man | in star trek talk, you were scanned | 11:45 |
| RST38h | Infekta: It means you are being hacked! | 11:46 |
| tank-man | shields up! | 11:46 |
| RST38h | Infekta: Look around: are there any suspicious shadows behind you? | 11:46 |
| lcuk | quick, raise the shields, dim the lights, modulate the yoghurt machine and bring me a coffee | 11:46 |
| Infekta | lol | 11:46 |
| RST38h | lcuk: prepare two-three red shirt for sacrifice after the break | 11:46 |
| RST38h | s/shirt/shirts I guess | 11:47 |
| lcuk | ill be in my ready room, errr getting ready | 11:47 |
| Infekta | it was sent from freenode so i imagine it was more wondering what IRC client im using | 11:47 |
| RST38h | The server is hacking you | 11:47 |
| lcuk | the freenode race have been involved in a long galactic battle with undernet for a while now | 11:47 |
| RST38h | Haven't you read in newspapers that IRC is where pirates and terrorists are? | 11:47 |
| lcuk | RST38h, did you see my vid last night | 11:48 |
| RST38h | no, where is it? | 11:48 |
| lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo | 11:48 |
| lcuk | how often do wifi nets disable themselves and go to sleep | 11:50 |
| RST38h | depends | 11:50 |
| RST38h | a router is not supposed to disable itself | 11:50 |
| RST38h | your tablet will turn wifi off after a while of inactivity | 11:50 |
| lcuk | ta | 11:51 |
| RST38h | a few pings usually make it come back though | 11:51 |
| lcuk | if its turned off how can it hear a ping | 11:51 |
| RST38h | Oh my god! It is an OPERATING SYSTEM in that video! | 11:51 |
| RST38h | lcuk: My guess is that it raises it from the dead every now and then | 11:52 |
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| RST38h | once every few minutes | 11:52 |
| RST38h | Surely Stskeeps or some other guys should be able to tell more precisely | 11:52 |
| lcuk | RST38h :O its not | 11:52 |
| lcuk | its just my playground :$ | 11:52 |
| RST38h | looks like a media player based on this stuff would eclipse Canola | 11:53 |
| * RST38h had to abandon ideas of using Canola yesterday - makes video unwatchable | 11:53 | |
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| lcuk | nahh barring the "omg the music is with the songs" i havent considered a media player lol | 11:54 |
| Infekta | lol | 11:54 |
| Infekta | now u guys are CTCP spamming me | 11:54 |
| Infekta | well i am here for that reason @RST38h | 11:54 |
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| Infekta | is someone pinging me lol? | 12:04 |
| johnx | RST38h, wakes up every second or two I believe, the router has to support holding messages in a buffer to deal with devices that use PSM | 12:05 |
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| lcuk | ahhh thx johnx | 12:06 |
| lcuk | hiya btw | 12:06 |
| johnx | hey lcuk | 12:07 |
| lcuk | are you ready for flying | 12:07 |
| johnx | yup, yup | 12:07 |
| lcuk | excellent | 12:07 |
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| johnx | got it all ironed out with my work too :) | 12:07 |
| Infekta | flying? | 12:07 |
| lcuk | are you gettin same flight as rm | 12:07 |
| johnx | hey rm_you | 12:07 |
| rm_you | hey | 12:07 |
| RST38h | johnx: found a job? | 12:07 |
| lcuk | heh speak of the devil | 12:07 |
| rm_you | lol @ "going to bed" | 12:07 |
| RST38h | ehlo rm_me | 12:07 |
| rm_you | yo | 12:07 |
| johnx | RST38h, yup, back at the same place I was before my little adventure | 12:07 |
| rm_you | lcuk, yes | 12:07 |
| johnx | lcuk, yeah, rm_you and I are back in the same area for a while | 12:08 |
| lcuk | rm_you, i know you are gettin the same flight as rm_you | 12:08 |
| Infekta | so these incremental pings im getting are from freenode itself? | 12:08 |
| johnx | I see you're getting there around the time we are | 12:08 |
| rm_you | johnx: so obs is downloading like... all of Mer tonight, for funsies | 12:08 |
| lcuk | yeah i am | 12:08 |
| johnx | rm_you, good deal | 12:08 |
| lcuk | rm_you, :D something magical happened | 12:08 |
| rm_you | lcuk: lol? | 12:08 |
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| lcuk | johnx, rm_you its a good job you too are mates, otherwise you will be throwing things at each other around the plane | 12:09 |
| lcuk | rm_you, (and johnx as well) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo | 12:09 |
| rm_you | lol | 12:09 |
| johnx | Infekta, I don't think it's normal to see more than one or two every so often. how many are you getting | 12:09 |
| Infekta | two every few minutes or so | 12:09 |
| lcuk | johnx, streisand effect, he pointed it out, everyone started it | 12:09 |
| rm_you | woo, theres a flash10 deb? :P sweet | 12:10 |
| johnx | hey, cool. you have a neat tag browser :D | 12:10 |
| johnx | rm_you, yeah, for i386 | 12:10 |
| johnx | should be in official ubuntu repos | 12:10 |
| johnx | damn, lcuk that looks slick as hell | 12:11 |
| lcuk | sliq | 12:11 |
| rm_you | working on flash... lol | 12:11 |
| RST38h | johnx: Heh =) | 12:11 |
| rm_you | there we go | 12:11 |
| lcuk | johnx, yeah it does :) it feels great as well | 12:11 |
| johnx | RST38h, yup. small company, great people. nice to see the same faces as two years ago | 12:12 |
| Infekta | where did you find the flash 10 for deb? | 12:12 |
| lcuk | brb (bacon) | 12:12 |
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| Infekta | mmmm bacon! | 12:13 |
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| amr | mm tablet | 12:13 |
| johnx | Infekta, if you're on ubuntu, you already have it :P | 12:13 |
| Infekta | this channel is really active tonight | 12:13 |
| lcuk | lag | 12:13 |
| johnx | if you're on debian, steal it from ubuntu :) | 12:13 |
| lcuk | its not tonight anymore | 12:13 |
| amr | tonight? its 10am ! :) | 12:13 |
| johnx | ~ugt | 12:13 |
| infobot | somebody said ugt was Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html | 12:14 |
| johnx | anyways, I'm off to bed for real now | 12:14 |
| johnx | 'night all | 12:14 |
| lcuk | cya later johnx \o | 12:14 |
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| RST38h | 'It is not a moral standpoint but a fiscal one,' an official said. 'Prostitution is not an illegal act in Germany, but not paying tax on earned money is. | 12:16 |
| RST38h | Oh, she has to pay 19% VAT too =) | 12:16 |
| rm_you | RST38h: lolwut? | 12:18 |
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| lcuk | rst, i had a dream about that damned scp article about the surgical statis machine \@ | 12:19 |
| rm_you | brb need to reboot | 12:19 |
| rm_you | oh damn, can't | 12:19 |
| RST38h | lcuk: The one that carefully disassembles victims into parts and delivers each body part in a plastic cube? =) | 12:20 |
| lcuk | rm_you, you are right, no rebooting, have you seen the video | 12:20 |
| lcuk | yeah | 12:20 |
| rm_you | well that is why i need to reboot, for sound | 12:20 |
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| RST38h | lcuk: that not even the scariest medical device they have got there =) | 12:20 |
| * lcuk points a rather flaky yucky finger @ u | 12:20 | |
| RST38h | rm_you: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1185928/Teen-auctioned-virginity-8-000-LOSE-half--prostitutes-Germany-taxed-50-earnings.html | 12:20 |
| lcuk | no i bet its not, but the idea behind that is mindblowing | 12:21 |
| RST38h | rm_you: vanother virignity-on-ebay stunt gone horribly wrong, I hope this girl isn't studying accounting =) | 12:21 |
| lcuk | she only got 8000?? wasnt there one that did it for 3million or something | 12:21 |
| RST38h | lcuk: .RO, heavily discounted | 12:21 |
| lcuk | heh | 12:21 |
| * lcuk would sell his virginity for 3 million | 12:22 | |
| RST38h | lcuk: you have any left/ | 12:22 |
| RST38h | ? | 12:22 |
| lcuk | i have warcraft account details to prove it lol | 12:22 |
| lcuk | im joking of course lol | 12:22 |
| RST38h | lcuk: Weird part is I started watching Fringe yesterday, on a suggestion from a friend, and the plots are not nearly as good as SCP | 12:22 |
| lcuk | scp is intruiging | 12:23 |
| lcuk | a very good idea | 12:23 |
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| rm_you | what is SCP? | 12:26 |
| rm_you | besides a way to transfer files securely :P | 12:26 |
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| lcuk | rm_you, RST38h will have to link you | 12:27 |
| Macer | ok. 2nd life sucks | 12:28 |
| Macer | heh | 12:28 |
| * Macer rm -rf | 12:28 | |
| * rm_you rm -rf's YOU | 12:30 | |
| crashanddie | In Soviet Russia, You rm FR | 12:31 |
| RST38h | rm_you: scp-wiki.wikidot.org | 12:31 |
| crashanddie | damn, that's a pretty bad website name | 12:31 |
| crashanddie | try explaining that on the phone to someone who's not an expert with computers | 12:31 |
| RST38h | rm_you: full of stuff like this http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-217 | 12:32 |
| rm_you | its .com but i found it | 12:32 |
| rm_you | P | 12:32 |
| rm_you | :P | 12:32 |
| Macer | lol. "In the Mossad we have a saying, knives don't run out of bullets." | 12:32 |
| crashanddie | Macer, lol | 12:32 |
| Infekta | haha | 12:33 |
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| rm_you | lolwtf | 12:36 |
| rm_you | RST38h: that is so very very random O_o | 12:36 |
| amr | anyone here use gmail with the built in mail client? | 12:38 |
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| yerga | amr, yes, with imap | 12:40 |
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| amr | im using pop and i cant seem to connect to smtp.googlemail.com | 12:41 |
| amr | retrieving is fine, sending wont connect | 12:41 |
| amr | although again, this could be my uni internet messing things up | 12:41 |
| rm_you | ok now rebooting | 12:41 |
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| Infekta | hey lcuk i saw your liqbase vid on utube.. but i still dont quite get what it does | 12:47 |
| lcuk | which one | 12:47 |
| Infekta | the ''lcuk liqbase overview'' video | 12:47 |
| Infekta | i suppose having volume would help rofl | 12:48 |
| lcuk | theres 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo | 12:48 |
| lcuk | thats the latest one | 12:48 |
| Infekta | ah ok | 12:48 |
| Infekta | ok wow that is pretty awesome | 12:48 |
| lcuk | watch the whole thing :) | 12:49 |
| Infekta | will do | 12:52 |
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| rm_you | lol ok there got sound | 12:55 |
| rm_you | now to watch the video again | 12:55 |
| rm_you | while scratchbox/maemo-sdk installs | 12:55 |
| lcuk | who is GearzVoNKod3 | 12:56 |
| rm_you | yay sound | 12:57 |
| rm_you | do you get many donations? >_> | 12:57 |
| rm_you | curious | 12:57 |
| lcuk | no subtitles tho | 12:57 |
| lcuk | take your curiosity elsewhere | 12:57 |
| rm_you | lol, i keep forgetting just how British you are :P | 12:57 |
| * rm_you wishes he had or even could fake a British accent | 12:58 | |
| * RST38h adheres to Odo theory on the subject of accents | 13:00 | |
| lcuk | which is? all i can remember about odo is he has a bukkit | 13:00 |
| rm_you | Odo -> shapeshifter? | 13:02 |
| rm_you | <_< | 13:02 |
| lcuk | lives in a bukkit | 13:02 |
| rm_you | cuz he has shapeshifter AIDS <_< | 13:03 |
| Infekta | im gearzvon kod3 | 13:03 |
| lcuk | ahh Infekta lol i havent had any comments on that vid for a while :P | 13:04 |
| Infekta | rofl @ the bukkit comment | 13:04 |
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| Infekta | lol | 13:26 |
| lcuk | Infekta, you infected with something | 13:27 |
| lcuk | you laugh randomly | 13:27 |
| Infekta | i laugh at what im doing | 13:28 |
| Infekta | i just hijacked my home network with ettercap and am pissing my fam off, then playing stupid about it | 13:28 |
| lcuk | tsk | 13:29 |
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| rm_you | brb again | 13:34 |
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| aquatix | Infekta: hijacking their pr0n? | 13:34 |
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| amr | does the 'maps' application built in to the n810 actually find your location? | 13:52 |
| amr | i don't think i've actually had the gps working yet | 13:52 |
| aquatix | gps might take a while | 13:52 |
| amr | how long is a while? 10 mins? | 13:52 |
| aquatix | yep, certainly the first time | 13:53 |
| aquatix | with agps it is a bit faster | 13:54 |
| glass | indoors forever probably | 13:54 |
| amr | well im on top of the highest hill in the city if that helps | 13:54 |
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| amr | with it sat on the windowsil | 13:54 |
| amr | my 6210 navigator gets signal pretty sharpish | 13:54 |
| lcuk | antenna envy | 13:54 |
| lcuk | the 810 looks over at the guys with bigger wangs | 13:55 |
| amr | lol | 13:56 |
| lcuk | amr, i dont have problems with gps normally in the car - but something i always do before taking it out is a cold reboot | 13:57 |
| lcuk | because ive had it sit there with full view of the sky for hours and not get a lock | 13:57 |
| lcuk | then after a reboot and put back in same place it got a lock near instantly | 13:58 |
| * lcuk has a cargo cult attitude lol | 13:58 | |
| crashanddie | is there some kind of tracking app? | 13:59 |
| crashanddie | hmm, maybe mapper can do that | 13:59 |
| lcuk | depending on what you search for the uk gov will do the tracking for oyu | 13:59 |
| amr | i saw a post on the talk.maemo about that | 13:59 |
| crashanddie | lcuk, not a lot of cameras in the woods I go to :P | 14:00 |
| crashanddie | I probably should not have said that on a logged channel. | 14:00 |
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| lcuk | if you go down to the woods today you are in for a big surprise.. | 14:00 |
| amr | ah stuff it | 14:00 |
| amr | ill fiddle with the gps later | 14:00 |
| crashanddie | I'm on ma bike, FASTER THAN THE SUN | 14:00 |
| amr | ive got email sortedish, pidgin sorted, mcalendar sync'd with google | 14:01 |
| amr | now time to sort my contacts | 14:01 |
| lcuk | cool | 14:01 |
| amr | any way to import over bluetooth? | 14:01 |
| amr | from my phone | 14:02 |
| lcuk | i dunno, never tried | 14:02 |
| amr | hmmm | 14:03 |
| * aquatix would like to sync contacts too | 14:05 | |
| aquatix | now it's only synched with my IM stuff | 14:05 |
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| amr | hmm, that might do | 14:05 |
| amr | ive got the nokia pc suite installed | 14:06 |
| amr | i suppose i could pull the contacts off from my phone | 14:06 |
| amr | and then upload them to the tablet | 14:06 |
| aquatix | there's an import option in Contacts | 14:07 |
| aquatix | not sure what kind of file it takes | 14:07 |
| lcuk | direct neural connection | 14:07 |
| aquatix | ah | 14:07 |
| aquatix | sounds nifty | 14:07 |
| RST38h | paper? | 14:08 |
| aquatix | RST38h: nah, that's too advanced | 14:08 |
| RST38h | scans paper with a camera, translates all contacts into kanji and stores them? | 14:08 |
| aquatix | (hm, OCR on the NIT would be cool) | 14:08 |
| lcuk | scan of a photo taken of a printout placed onto a wooden table | 14:08 |
| aquatix | RST38h: enough phones can do that | 14:08 |
| aquatix | apart from the kanji part | 14:08 |
| aquatix | lcuk: lol | 14:08 |
| RST38h | heh | 14:08 |
| amr | what's that note taking program that uses images? | 14:08 |
| amr | evernote? | 14:08 |
| lcuk | liqbase | 14:08 |
| aquatix | *grin* | 14:09 |
| aquatix | amr: iirc, yes | 14:09 |
| lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo | 14:09 |
| lcuk | ;) | 14:09 |
| amr | yeah it is | 14:09 |
| aquatix | but liqbase rocks | 14:09 |
| amr | oh? | 14:09 |
| lcuk | and can only get better | 14:09 |
| lcuk | yeah amr, look at the vid | 14:09 |
| amr | what accent does that guy have? | 14:09 |
| amr | it sounds familiar... | 14:10 |
| lcuk | northern | 14:10 |
| amr | well i knew that :p | 14:10 |
| lcuk | im from manchester | 14:10 |
| amr | im from leeds, yet lack an accent | 14:10 |
| amr | and now im even further north in durham | 14:10 |
| lcuk | you lack a decent football team as well :p | 14:10 |
| amr | hahaha don't i know it :p | 14:11 |
| amr | thankfully i support arsenal | 14:11 |
| lcuk | we all have our cross to bear | 14:11 |
| t_s_o | bah, sports... | 14:13 |
| lcuk | sport is fun | 14:13 |
| amr | hmm, i need to find more things to fiddle with | 14:14 |
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| RST38h | A 3-year-old New Zealand girl, bored in the early hours of the morning, hopped on her parents' computer and, via auto-logins, managed to buy a used mechanical excavation machine for around $15,000. | 14:14 |
| crashanddie | yelling at a TV and drinking beer doesn't qualify as sport :P | 14:15 |
| amr | says who!? | 14:15 |
| lcuk | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=9788 | 14:15 |
| crashanddie | well, I guess the yelling makes it active | 14:15 |
| lcuk | the way tracy yells you would think the ref could hear her lol | 14:16 |
| * lcuk knows the way the game is going from halfway down the road | 14:16 | |
| amr | lol | 14:17 |
| crashanddie | lcuk, http://www.dyestat.com/3us/6out/NikeOutdoorNats/album-vic-jumps-g/images/154GM8W1004.jpg | 14:20 |
| aquatix | now that's nice | 14:20 |
| lcuk | ahhh seb, http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=9811 | 14:25 |
| lcuk | but i think golf is just as relaxing to watch | 14:25 |
| lcuk | http://www.motivatedphotos.com/?id=9670 | 14:25 |
| RST38h | http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/6/16/633492197339453398-elephants.jpg | 14:30 |
| lcuk | the harpoons, man them | 14:30 |
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| pupnik__ | next device more ram.. reliable gps. builtin video/ip telephony | 15:13 |
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| pupnik__ | not holding much hope for dpad | 15:19 |
| RST38h | hehe | 15:20 |
| RST38h | is there some news? url? | 15:20 |
| pupnik__ | maybe no builtin flash but 2x micro-sd? | 15:20 |
| RST38h | nah, forget it | 15:20 |
| pupnik__ | just exercising wishcreft | 15:20 |
| pupnik__ | yeah users might remove sd and wonder why it 'broke' | 15:21 |
| RST38h | there is no reason to spend money on 2nd socket when you bundle sd card anyway | 15:21 |
| RST38h | just solder it in and save on bom | 15:22 |
| pupnik__ | 32GB Raid0 would be nice | 15:22 |
| pupnik__ | lol | 15:22 |
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| lopz | hola | 15:22 |
| RST38h | 32gb is possible no raid though | 15:22 |
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| pupnik__ | ram sucks more power than i thought | 15:24 |
| pupnik__ | not just a price question | 15:25 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lbt, ping? | 15:51 |
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| GeneralAntilles | lbt, too late. Off to work. | 15:57 |
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| pupnik__ | can /tmp be symlinked to vfat mount? | 16:25 |
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| pupnik__ | browser wants to use /tmp for downloads | 16:25 |
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| luke-jr | pupnik__: no | 16:28 |
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| pupnik__ | k | 16:28 |
| luke-jr | pupnik__: even if you could, vfat would screw up /tmp | 16:29 |
| pupnik__ | internal does fill fast | 16:30 |
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| luke-jr | pupnik__: stick an 8 GB SD in and install Gentoo :D | 16:36 |
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| RST38h | go for Slackware instead, it is more eleet than Gentoo! | 16:50 |
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| pupnik__ | mini sd not so common | 16:53 |
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| luke-jr | pupnik__: MicroSD + adapter | 16:54 |
| luke-jr | RST38h: is there even a Slackware port? | 16:54 |
| GAN800 | pupnik, MiniSD is dead. | 16:54 |
| luke-jr | GAN800: Tell Nokia that | 16:55 |
| GAN800 | luke-jr, they're not using it on any current devices. | 16:56 |
| luke-jr | GAN800: yes they are | 16:56 |
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| luke-jr | AFAIK, Nokia's only "current" NIT is N810 | 16:56 |
| luke-jr | and N810 only supports MiniSD | 16:56 |
| GAN800 | The N810 is not current. | 16:56 |
| luke-jr | no? what's newer? | 16:56 |
| GAN800 | Besides, it was designed in 2007 when MiniSD was still alive. | 16:57 |
| luke-jr | I've never seen MiniSD elsewhere | 16:57 |
| GAN800 | Nothing, but the N810 is discontinued | 16:57 |
| * RST38h follows the usual routine to ask the Tentacled One to make Nokia switch to normal SD cards | 16:57 | |
| luke-jr | GAN800: last I checked, they still produce it | 16:58 |
| luke-jr | and they have nothing newer | 16:58 |
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| RST38h | No mini. No micro. Just normally sized SD. The IS enough space inside, no need to bullshit users. | 16:58 |
| luke-jr | that means "current" in my book | 16:58 |
| GAN800 | luke-jr, and don't give me your line of BS. | 16:58 |
| GAN800 | It's EoL | 16:58 |
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| GAN800 | pupnik__, and, yes, RAM is power hungry. | 17:00 |
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| lbt | GAN800: back now | 17:05 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, micro-SD is probably the way to go though | 17:06 |
| Stskeepsie | 4 microsd slots ;p | 17:11 |
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| RST38h | crashanddie: microsd is uncomfortable as hell to deal with | 17:14 |
| RST38h | too small, too fiddly | 17:14 |
| lbt | don't bite your fingernails then | 17:14 |
| RST38h | also more difficult/expensive to crum bigger amounts of flash into it | 17:15 |
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| * lcuk810 replaces his fingernail with a microsd card | 17:21 | |
| RST38h | lcuk: Won't you lose the rest of your finger by trying to use such attachment? =) | 17:22 |
| crashanddie | RST38h, give a whole new meaning to "user interface" | 17:22 |
| crashanddie | s/e/es/ | 17:23 |
| infobot | crashanddie meant: RST38h, gives a whole new meaning to "user interface" | 17:23 |
| ShadowJK | My Nokia E70 also uses MiniSD :-) | 17:23 |
| crashanddie | doesn't mean it's any good though :P | 17:23 |
| ShadowJK | Not that it matters much... I actually use microsd in both N800 and N810 :-) | 17:23 |
| crashanddie | just a wtf-moment on Nokia's behalf | 17:24 |
| RST38h | Shadow: Yea, except that it can't do SDHCs so the adapter question does not really arise | 17:24 |
| GAN800 | lbt, I gave you editbugs, but it can only be global. | 17:24 |
| lbt | GAN800: OK.. ta. | 17:24 |
| GAN800 | So, be careful, etc. | 17:24 |
| ShadowJK | The wtf-moment was really back when they did fullsize MMC slots /behind/ the battery, so that you had to replace the battery in order to swap the card | 17:24 |
| * lcuk810 has always lik;ed the idea of a users' interface | 17:24 | |
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| ShadowJK | replace=remove | 17:25 |
| RST38h | Shadow: Frankly, I do not care much | 17:25 |
| RST38h | Shadow: My interaction with the SD card slots is limited to sticking the biggest-available-at-the-moment card there and forgetting about it | 17:25 |
| ShadowJK | indeed :) | 17:26 |
| RST38h | Shadow: That does not apply to development crap, but development boards use full sized SDs and have 'em exposed specifically for necrophilia | 17:26 |
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| unixSnob | is 5.2008.43-7 pretty current? | 17:37 |
| GAN800 | Latest. | 17:38 |
| unixSnob | cool | 17:38 |
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| thux | is m4a usually better quality than mp3? and if so how to make m4a with linux that way that nokia phone plays it? Sound juicer's made m4a doesn't play in phone | 17:41 |
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| andrewfblack | Hello | 17:54 |
| lcuk | hello afb | 17:55 |
| * RST38h fixed the tilt sensor! | 17:58 | |
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| RST38h | (why did I hardwire it to FIREL/FIRER buttons anyway?) | 17:58 |
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| amr- | hellohello | 18:31 |
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| amr- | i saw a post on talk.maemo.org about full linux distros being installed. debian, ubuntu and now fedora | 18:33 |
| amr- | how usable are they? | 18:33 |
| GAN800 | Meh | 18:33 |
| amr- | things sure have changed in the year+ ive been gone | 18:33 |
| GAN800 | Non are battery or mobile friendly. | 18:33 |
| amr- | lol | 18:33 |
| amr- | i can imagine | 18:33 |
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| unixSnob | my device can ping my host, but my host cannot ping my device. Does maemo drop ping packets when it's in the factory configuration? | 18:36 |
| amr- | i recall my 770 doing the same thing | 18:36 |
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| lcuk | unixSnob, i have never had to fiddle with anything to allow pings back | 18:37 |
| lcuk | check your network | 18:37 |
| unixSnob | the host and device are both connecting wirelessly to a private fonera network, so there's nothing to configure on the router | 18:38 |
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| lcuk | are you using hostname or ip | 18:38 |
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| unixSnob | ip | 18:38 |
| lcuk | you sure its right | 18:39 |
| * lcuk has static ips so i know whats what | 18:39 | |
| unixSnob | i ran ifconfig to get the ip number | 18:39 |
| GAN800 | ~wifi-psm | 18:39 |
| infobot | from memory, wifi-psm is http://wiki.maemo.org/Wifi_Power_Saving_Mode_(PSM) | 18:39 |
| unixSnob | ah.. that sounds familiar | 18:40 |
| unixSnob | I recall hearing about power saving mode over doing things | 18:40 |
| * unixSnob is disabling power saving mode for the fonera uplink | 18:41 | |
| unixSnob | in fact, this is all coming back to me now.. fonera routers specifically have a problem w/ maemo and power saving mode | 18:42 |
| unixSnob | iirc | 18:42 |
| amr- | lcuk, i just realised it was you behind liqbase | 18:42 |
| amr- | :p | 18:42 |
| lcuk | heh | 18:42 |
| amr- | i apparently don't read websites | 18:42 |
| amr- | just look for the cute videos | 18:42 |
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| RST38h | it was all him! | 18:42 |
| RST38h | get him! don't let him run away! | 18:42 |
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| amr- | is jaiku popular amongst you guys? | 18:43 |
| notlcuk | he went that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | 18:43 |
| notlcuk | i was a member for a while | 18:43 |
| notlcuk | i still am lol | 18:43 |
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| amr- | i requested an invite but haven't received one | 18:43 |
| amr- | figured id see what all the fuss was about | 18:43 |
| lcuk | but when they changed the service everyone fragmented again | 18:44 |
| lcuk | now im on twitter | 18:44 |
| lcuk | oh hang on | 18:44 |
| lcuk | i dunno if i can do invites | 18:44 |
| amr- | oh? whats your twitter name? | 18:44 |
| amr- | lcuk? :p | 18:44 |
| lcuk | lcuk | 18:44 |
| lcuk | lol | 18:44 |
| amr- | ohh, you enjoy your watches too | 18:46 |
| amr- | just saw your 'what time is it' link | 18:46 |
| RST38h | BTW, people, how do I disable mouse gestures in Ubuntu Gnome desktop? | 18:47 |
| lcuk | amr, which? | 18:47 |
| RST38h | It is constantly trying to move me to a different workspace | 18:47 |
| amr- | http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2009/05/extraordinary-clocks-and-watches.html | 18:47 |
| lcuk | ahhhh | 18:47 |
| amr- | it appears to be just generally cool clocks tho, my bad :p | 18:47 |
| amr- | i enjoy my mechanical watches | 18:47 |
| lcuk | yes that sort of catalog page is excellent fodder for the imagination | 18:48 |
| lcuk | whats your mail addy and ill invite you to jaiku | 18:48 |
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| amr- | a.m.richards@st-aidans.com | 18:48 |
| amr- | thanks :) | 18:48 |
| lcuk | sent | 18:49 |
| amr- | and ive got it, thanks! | 18:49 |
| unixSnob | ha.. booyah! that was it... turned off power saving, and now I can ping the damn thing | 18:49 |
| amr- | im impressed the uni wireless reaches this far into college | 18:50 |
| amr- | and has lasted this long | 18:50 |
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| Dracie | for kicks could I run the maemo framework on an x86 machine? | 18:57 |
| inz | Dracie, dunno what you mean by maemo framework, but many parts are included in ubuntu, for example | 18:58 |
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| Dracie | inz, well I mean matchbox and hildon, and mamo's specific interface configs | 18:59 |
| Dracie | I am playing with matchbox, not sure if all the hildon packages are in the ubuntu repo ... i got this all in a vm | 18:59 |
| inz | Dracie, of course you can also use the maemo.org repositories, which also contain x86 packages, but you don't want to install them in your day-to-day-use install | 19:00 |
| Dracie | yup Its fine if i nuke this ubuntu install I love Virtualization | 19:01 |
| unixSnob | i don't recall what these .install files are. I downloaded one to my host. Once I upload it to the device, will the file manager know what to do with it? | 19:01 |
| Stskeepsie | Dracie: can always try out the Mer vmdk's as well | 19:01 |
| Dracie | k | 19:01 |
| Stskeepsie | (maemo platform mangled into fit on all sorts of devices) | 19:02 |
| Dracie | hehe | 19:02 |
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| Dracie | I might get a beagleboard so I am poking around GUIs | 19:02 |
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| lcuk | Dracie, buy a tablet, they have a touchscreen which is much more pokable than either your x86 or a beagle | 19:03 |
| Dracie | lcuk, yes I would love to buy a n810 | 19:04 |
| Dracie | I have an ipod touch not too happy with it though | 19:04 |
| lcuk | whats wrong with it then | 19:05 |
| amr- | i just bought an n810 | 19:06 |
| amr- | it brings back memories of my 770, such joy | 19:06 |
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| * unixSnob just read that the 810 wimax edition was discontinued.. wonder why that is | 19:07 | |
| amr- | anyone here in the uk thats used 'boingo' before? | 19:09 |
| Dracie | lcuk, even jailbroken its a PITA since I don't even have a working toolchain and the repos are far from complete | 19:10 |
| amr- | laff, "city must contain a minimum of 6 chars" | 19:11 |
| amr- | so much for putting my city as 'leeds' then | 19:11 |
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| GAN800 | unixSnob, download the .installs on the device. Sprint screwed up the WiMAX deployment. | 19:13 |
| RST38h | amr: Will Leeeds do? | 19:13 |
| RST38h | Or even /_eedz | 19:14 |
| Stskeepsie | Dracie: good argument | 19:14 |
| amr- | i just put a space at the end heh | 19:15 |
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| unixSnob | GAN800: ok, thanks. I already copied the install files to the device and file manager was able to handle them.. but i guess there's little point in not downloading them directly | 19:20 |
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| unixSnob | are there any triple sim phones that will work as a gsm modem for the n800? | 19:23 |
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| unixSnob | triple sim phones seem to be in small supply | 19:23 |
| Stskeepsie | all the drug dealers has them ;) | 19:24 |
| unixSnob | yeah, i suppose they're quite useful for dealers. one chip for personal, one for legit work, and one for deals | 19:25 |
| xnt14 | unixSnob: xD | 19:26 |
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| Dracie | I would have to say the last two ipods have been the worst | 19:27 |
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| xnt14 | btw stskeeps, how about adding support for this in mer? just tot control waypoints, http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/Main_Page | 19:27 |
| Dracie | I loved my ipod mini it ran UCLinux | 19:27 |
| xnt14 | Dracie: my ipod nano 1st gen runs ipodlinux :) | 19:28 |
| xnt14 | now only if my ipod touch ran (useable) linux | 19:28 |
| * xnt14 wonders what ipods have to do with #maemo | 19:29 | |
| xnt14 | stskeepsie: something like this? http://paparazzi.enac.fr/wiki/Ipodrom | 19:29 |
| RST38h | Mental note: Avoid anything using GStreamer on the desktop. | 19:30 |
| Dracie | xnt14, my 2nd gen ipod nano was horrible I am happy it either got stolen or was lost | 19:30 |
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| xnt14 | Dracie: buy an ipod nano 1st gen and put linux, or if you are willing to put up with a darwin based os/wait for a useable linux get an ipod touch, http://www.iphonelinux.org/index.php/Main_Page | 19:32 |
| xnt14 | or iphone | 19:32 |
| Dracie | yeah i saw videos of that booting | 19:32 |
| xnt14 | yeah | 19:33 |
| unixSnob | it just occurred to me that drug dealers could really use a custom app that takes orders over openvpn | 19:34 |
| xnt14 | unixsnob: I sorta doubt that drugdealers know how to write an app :P | 19:34 |
| * xnt14 doesn't know what phone to get, iphone 3rd gen, nokia n97, HTC Sapphire, Palm Pre... | 19:35 | |
| keesj | xnt14: times are hard | 19:36 |
| unixSnob | xnt14: it would have to be user friendly.. developers could write it for them | 19:36 |
| xnt14 | unixSnob: yeah... | 19:36 |
| unixSnob | xnt14: there could also be a client app.. | 19:36 |
| lcuk | unixSnob, i like the principle of ordering a taxi to location via text message and automatic gps | 19:36 |
| xnt14 | keesj: :( | 19:37 |
| lcuk | expand on it and allow pizza deliver, or even illicit goods | 19:37 |
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| xnt14 | now if iphone linux gets drivers and then android, mer, etc gets ported... | 19:37 |
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| GAN800 | xnt14, WinMob is right out. | 19:37 |
| GAN800 | Pre is CDMA | 19:38 |
| Razumihin | e71 nokia is pretty good. | 19:38 |
| lcuk | for how long though, thats just modem choice | 19:38 |
| Razumihin | Too small screen for me though. | 19:38 |
| xnt14 | GAN800: there is going to be a GSM version, I think | 19:38 |
| Razumihin | But i myself am waiting for the maemo phone to come out :) | 19:38 |
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| xnt14 | Razumihin: I really want a linux/unix phone, and I don't think that nokia is going to make a maemo phone :( | 19:39 |
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| Razumihin | They are. | 19:40 |
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| lcuk | i dont want a linux phone, it gets tiresome having to open a console and type "sudo answercall" | 19:40 |
| Razumihin | I can bet on it ;) | 19:40 |
| Razumihin | lcuk: I would actually prefer that :) | 19:41 |
| GAN800 | xnt14, sure, but not soon. | 19:41 |
| Razumihin | xnt14: I have heard from like 5 different nokia employees that it actually exists already. | 19:41 |
| keesj | lcuk is reading to much http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/ | 19:42 |
| xnt14 | Razumihin: :) | 19:42 |
| Razumihin | But i don | 19:42 |
| lcuk | heh keesj | 19:42 |
| RST38h | Razumihin: They were plaiying with your mind, hehehehehe | 19:42 |
| xnt14 | lcuk: :P | 19:42 |
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| Razumihin | 't know is it coming now or after a year :) | 19:42 |
| RST38h | GAN800: Never had a problem with BT breaking in 5800 BTW? | 19:42 |
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| lcuk | keesj, i spotted it as a posting on twitter and it made me laugh | 19:42 |
| RST38h | GAN800: As in "Cannot perform Bluetooth operation" every time you try enabling it | 19:42 |
| lcuk | but i couldnt find the link, ta | 19:42 |
| Razumihin | But i'm pretty happy 9500, e61 and n810 user so no hurry :) | 19:43 |
| Razumihin | But as a linux hippie I would really prefer linux devices. | 19:44 |
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| lcuk | hahahah "Changing your keypad to dvorak layout, where the most commonly used numbers are in the middle row " | 19:45 |
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| inz | lcuk, what do you mean sudo answercall, you keep minicom open all the time, and say ATA when it says RING | 19:48 |
| crashanddie | lcuk, lol? | 19:49 |
| Razumihin | inz: :D | 19:49 |
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| crashanddie | dvorak keypad? lmao | 19:49 |
| Razumihin | ACK | 19:49 |
| crashanddie | SYN | 19:49 |
| inz | Shouln't you SYNACK? | 19:50 |
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| xnt14 | keesj: xDDD, that blog is hilarious :P:P | 19:51 |
| Razumihin | FIN ;) | 19:53 |
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| inz | ACK | 19:55 |
| inz | FIN | 19:55 |
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| yigal | I have a persistent problem, for months, with sound on OS2008 w/n800 and I'm hoping someone might be able to help me diagnose and even fix it? | 20:20 |
| lcuk | what sort of problem | 20:20 |
| yigal | if I close or open a window, and number of other system processes the sound resets, there's a popping sound at least not sure what it is | 20:21 |
| lcuk | does it do this after a reflash | 20:22 |
| lcuk | or was there a time rather when it didnt do it | 20:22 |
| yigal | lcuk: haven't reflashed, and yes it used to not do this, I believe a system upgrade but what package? | 20:23 |
| yigal | it sounds like /etc/rc.d/alsa restart | 20:23 |
| yigal | although I'm not sure if the n800 is even using alsa? | 20:23 |
| yigal | but it's a similar sound to doing this on a computer | 20:24 |
| yigal | is it more work than worth it, should I just reflash? | 20:25 |
| lcuk | its always easiest | 20:26 |
| yigal | each time a window opens "click-pop" | 20:26 |
| yigal | lcuk: :P | 20:26 |
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| lcuk | we could travel round the houses for hours, ive never heard of it before though, you could ask in talk.maemo.org | 20:27 |
| yigal | :) | 20:27 |
| yigal | I did a search but most likely used the wrong keywords | 20:27 |
| yigal | found nothing, that is | 20:27 |
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| yigal | start a new thread, but I want to start using Mer anyways so I'll reflash then, problem solved :) | 20:28 |
| * unixSnob just installed PasswordManager, and there's no integration w/ the web browser :( | 20:29 | |
| unixSnob | i mean, i installed passwordsafe | 20:30 |
| unixSnob | does password manager integrate w/ the browser? | 20:30 |
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| GAN800 | RST38h, not that I've noticed but I never disable it and am several versions behind the rest of the goddamn world. | 20:37 |
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| trenka | ssvb: | 20:45 |
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| amr- | when you can no longer get uni wireless, set up a wireless ad-hoc network on your friends laptop across the hall | 20:48 |
| amr- | and mooch off that | 20:48 |
| amr- | result. | 20:48 |
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| amr- | http://www.bman.maemobox.org/projects/ubuntu-n8x0/screenshots/gallery.html | 20:52 |
| amr- | looks pretty nifty | 20:52 |
| Stskeepsie | on the other hand not many people succeed in booting it | 20:53 |
| amr- | thats a bugger | 20:53 |
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| keesj | that last image , is that a kexec based boot menu? | 21:01 |
| kfx | I think that last image is just a gnome logout menu | 21:03 |
| Stskeepsie | no, that's the deblet/mer rescue menu with a ubuntu skin | 21:03 |
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| unixSnob_ | suppose I get a dual sim android phone ( http://androidcommunity.com/general-mobile-dlst1-dual-sim-android-phone-coming-to-mwc-20090128/ ).. Can I expect this thing to tether to an n800, since there are android tethering apps out there? | 21:28 |
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| unixSnob | i installed timesheet, and it fails to launch because it can't find /usr/share/gpe/pixmaps | 22:11 |
| unixSnob | Is GPE a separate install? | 22:11 |
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| unixSnob | fixed it. installing another GPE app caused the needed files to get installed | 22:22 |
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| twoheadedturtle | Hi all, thanks in advance for any help. I just cloned my flash install to my external drive. Everything seems to be working fine and I'm pretty sure I'm now booted into my external install. However, df says /dev/mmcblk0p2 is mount on / and /dev/mmcblk1p2 is mount on /mnt/initfs. Shouldn't */dev/memblk1p2* be mounted on / not mmcblk0? sfdisk says that /dev/mmcblk0p2 is Empty... | 22:39 |
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| Stskeepsie | there's a bug where it misrepresents mmcblk0 vs mmcblk1, at least | 22:40 |
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| rmt | twoheadedturtle: I did a little hack where I create my own mtab file, fixing it up.. | 22:54 |
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| rmt | twoheadedturtle: It makes me feel better, at least. | 22:54 |
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| twoheadedturtle | sorry about that, internet disconnected for a bit. Anybody have a clue why mmcblk0p2 (an empty partion) is shown as being mounted at /? | 23:09 |
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| lcuk | twoheadedturtle, | 23:22 |
| lcuk | <rmt> twoheadedturtle: I did a little hack where I create my own mtab file, fixing it up.. | 23:22 |
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| lcuk | <rmt> twoheadedturtle: It makes me feel better, at least. | 23:22 |
| twoheadedturtle | haha ok, but anyone know why it does that? I guess it doesn't really matter as long as things work | 23:24 |
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| rmt | twoheadedturtle, Yeah, people know why.. kernel bug of some sort. Unpredictable naming iirc, so they had to settle on one convention for the initfs. | 23:28 |
| rmt | Think it was ordered one way with the N800, and another with the N810.. | 23:28 |
| twoheadedturtle | ahh ok, thanks | 23:28 |
| rmt | Or it may have something to do with whether or not you have an external mmc card in there. | 23:29 |
| rmt | Was considering just swapping the nodes around in my initfs image | 23:29 |
| rmt | But didn't want to screw that up. :-P | 23:29 |
| twoheadedturtle | i have both internal and external in, but i think i remember reading something about the naming stuff | 23:29 |
| twoheadedturtle | hahaha i know right, as long as it works, don't fix it | 23:30 |
| ShadowJK | I experienced the naming was swapped when booting N810 without external card | 23:30 |
| Macer | well. i have concluded that win7 goes about as fast as xp but has all of the vista crap | 23:31 |
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| twoheadedturtle | hmm, well I have the external card in, and it's not just that it switches between mmcblk0 - mmcblk1 | 23:32 |
| twoheadedturtle | it's that it uses both | 23:32 |
| twoheadedturtle | here is my df and sfdisk outputs | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | ~ $ df | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk1p2 4224 2504 1720 59% /mnt/initfs | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | none 512 92 420 18% /mnt/initfs/tmp | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk0p2 8819168 479772 7891396 6% / | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | none 512 92 420 18% /tmp | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | none 1024 72 952 7% /dev | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | tmpfs 1024 0 1024 0% /dev/shm | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk0p1 1922972 1700424 222548 88% /media/mmc2 | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | ~ $ sudo sfdisk -l | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | Password: | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 61440 cylinders, 4 heads, 16 sectors/track | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | Units = cylinders of 32768 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk0p1 0+ 60210 60211- 1926744 b W95 FAT32 | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk0p2 0 - 0 0 0 Empty | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk0p3 0 - 0 0 0 Empty | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk0p4 0 - 0 0 0 Empty | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | Disk /dev/mmcblk1: 486192 cylinders, 4 heads, 16 sectors/track | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | Units = cylinders of 32768 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | Device Boot Start End #cyls #blocks Id System | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk1p1 1 100000 100000 3200000 b W95 FAT32 | 23:33 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk1p2 100001 380000 280000 8960000 83 Linux | 23:34 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk1p3 380001 486191 106191 3398112 83 Linux | 23:34 |
| twoheadedturtle | /dev/mmcblk1p4 0+ 0 1- 31+ 83 Linux | 23:34 |
| twoheadedturtle | notice that /mnt/initfs is correct, mmcblk1p2, but / is wrong, mmcblk0p2 - which from sfdisk is an empty partion | 23:34 |
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| twoheadedturtle | but like I say things work, and if it's a known, or related to a know issue then I'll leave it be, I just thought maybe i'd done something stupid | 23:34 |
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| CutMeOwnThroat | aah, paste-attack | 23:58 |
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