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| robink | Does the 2008.43-7 firmware image have a modules.dep? | 01:49 |
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| Stskeeps | don't think so | 01:49 |
| Stskeeps | none of them does | 01:49 |
| robink | One did. | 01:49 |
| Stskeeps | haven't encountered one yet :P | 01:50 |
| robink | I didn't always have to manually load ipv6.ko | 01:50 |
| Stskeeps | ah, they officially added ipv6 at some point | 01:50 |
| robink | ...and made it so it wouldn't autoload? | 01:50 |
| Stskeeps | probably | 01:50 |
| robink | Why? | 01:50 |
| Stskeeps | i'm willing it has something to deal with vodka | 01:50 |
| robink | Stskeeps: What? | 01:51 |
| Stskeeps | +to bet | 01:51 |
| Stskeeps | sorry, late here :) | 01:51 |
| Stskeeps | but i think they have a IPv6 setting somewhere now | 01:51 |
| robink | Stskeeps: Really? Where? | 01:51 |
| Stskeeps | in connectivity settings | 01:51 |
| robink | 'k | 01:51 |
| Stskeeps | brb | 01:52 |
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| picklesworth | Hello! | 01:56 |
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| picklesworth | Is there a document somewhere that explains how maemo's dbusy application launching stuff works? | 01:58 |
| picklesworth | I think I may be duplicating it :/ | 01:58 |
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| * picklesworth glares at gnome-do for crashing both Pidgin and itself in the same ridiculous swoop | 01:59 | |
| GeneralAntilles | picklesworth, try the official docs? | 02:00 |
| picklesworth | I'm poking at the docs now, through the thick syrupy fun of slow interwebs... Hoping for a fancy colourful diagram of the architecture more than "how to use", although either way should work :) | 02:02 |
| Stskeeps | the booster/maemo-launcher, or? | 02:02 |
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| picklesworth | Oh, the docs are pretty good! I'm not used to such things :) http://maemo.org/maemo_release_documentation/maemo4.1.x/node6.html | 02:17 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Why do people think it's a good plan to bury web forums 3 pages from the front? | 02:48 |
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| Macer | hm... what the hell happened to gmail? | 02:56 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Oops | 03:11 |
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| LinuxCode | cat wants attention ;-} | 03:12 |
| GAN800 | :3 | 03:14 |
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| Macer | hm. debian seems to be pretty good on the artigo | 04:07 |
| Macer | wish it was a little quicker but can't have it all i suppose :) | 04:07 |
| robink | Stskeeps: There is nothing in connectivity settings that lets you select IPv6. | 04:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | IPv6 isn't supported | 04:11 |
| robink | GeneralAntilles: It isn't? Why not? I can insmod ipv6.ko and get an address from the radvd on my network. | 04:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | Because it's not something Nokia choose to support. | 04:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | That doesn't mean you can't get it to work | 04:13 |
| GeneralAntilles | it just means it's not supported. | 04:13 |
| Macer | Finished processing (took: 41m 41s) (total: 10h 32m 54s) | 04:13 |
| Macer | damn i love zfs and nexenta | 04:13 |
| robink | GeneralAntilles: Ahh. | 04:13 |
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| Macer | it unrared 70G in 41mins :) | 04:17 |
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| robink | Neato | 04:32 |
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| Macer | awesome... new popcornhour firmware is out | 04:42 |
| Macer | probably doesn't do much | 04:42 |
| Macer | wow i am burning this C7 out heh | 04:43 |
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| GeneralAntilles | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maemo_(operating_system)&curid=2447506&diff=282625589&oldid=281758570 | 04:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | Just so Nokians know, it's really easy to spot corporate IPs. ;) | 04:57 |
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| LinuxCode | GeneralAntilles, may I ? | 05:05 |
| LinuxCode | "You are fired!" | 05:05 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 05:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'm cleaning it up | 05:06 |
| LinuxCode | hehe k | 05:06 |
| LinuxCode | GeneralAntilles, any word yet when the N810 successor will be out ? | 05:06 |
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| LinuxCode | wasnt it next 3 months ? | 05:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | We only have a general frame for the beta SDK | 05:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | There have been no announcements about the future hardware | 05:07 |
| * LinuxCode is holding off buying a new mobile phone for a Nx00 with 3g | 05:07 | |
| LinuxCode | ohh i see | 05:07 |
| LinuxCode | ;-| | 05:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | 3 months would be my bet, anyway. | 05:07 |
| LinuxCode | I hope so | 05:08 |
| LinuxCode | that would fulfil all my needs | 05:08 |
| LinuxCode | Linux compatibility, tools, utils, etc.. | 05:08 |
| Macer | know what is so great about firefly | 05:09 |
| Macer | no sounds in space heh | 05:10 |
| Macer | except in the movie.. that was kind of strange | 05:10 |
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| matmo | early morning dumb question: on MXR I see "2008-50" - which OS version exactly does this refer to? Eg, my N810 (Diablo) says "2008.43-7". | 08:08 |
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| matmo | To answer my own question: latest source for the open portions of OS2008. So if I have an up to date Diablo I have 2008-50? | 08:23 |
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| Stskeeps | *yawns* | 10:32 |
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| b0unc3 | good morning | 10:38 |
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| wazd_n800 | hello world! | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | hello wazd | 10:47 |
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| wazd_n800 | woo, looks like I've missed maemo5 ui discussion thread | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | it was well hidden | 10:58 |
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| RST38h | Moo STS, wazd | 11:02 |
| RST38h | Look what I've found: http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html | 11:03 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:15 |
| Stskeeps | morning jaffa | 11:15 |
| X-Fade | Morning | 11:16 |
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| wazd_n800 | RST38h, hola, interesting stuff) | 11:35 |
| RST38h | wazd: The article has got everything, from homeless expats to pedophilia | 11:35 |
| RST38h | a classic, by all means =) | 11:37 |
| RST38h | wazd: BTW, ATI85 1.3.1 has just got into Extras. I updated images and made it work correctly when the same model is selected from the menu. | 11:37 |
| Stskeeps | oh neat, looking at kate's presentation | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | on/off stand, face up/down, x,y,z axis accelerator meter | 11:40 |
| RST38h | Sts: Have you noticed the "no more virtual keyboard" piece? | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: no -stylus keyboard- | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | there's a thumb keyboard | 11:41 |
| RST38h | Ah | 11:41 |
| RST38h | Even more interesting | 11:41 |
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| RST38h | BTW, S60e5 does have a stylus keyboard. Weird. | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | it is still possible to add stylus kbd but i doubt rx-51 has a stylus | 11:46 |
| RST38h | hmmmmmmmmmm | 11:46 |
| RST38h | I am liking it less and less =( | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | we'll see how it is eventually | 11:46 |
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| mavhc | if we wanted our screens to be covered in fingerprints we would have bought an ipod touch | 11:55 |
| RST38h | Maybe the RX-51 will have a glass screen after all... | 11:56 |
| RST38h | The current tablets definitely *do not* encourage touching 'em with fingers | 11:56 |
| mavhc | is glass chosen because there's no plastic transparent enough? | 11:57 |
| * lcuk touches mavhc's screen | 11:57 | |
| lcuk | capacitive vs resistive and a much larger cost for the capacitive so i heard | 11:58 |
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| RST38h | mavhc: glass is sturdier and easier to clean | 11:58 |
| RST38h | but it also does not go very well with resistive screens | 11:59 |
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| mavhc | do capacitive screens work with a metal stylus? | 12:00 |
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| RST38h | if you are holding it with your meaty fingers, they do :) | 12:02 |
| andre___ | Stskeeps, I'm thinking of some kind of keyword for stuff in maemo.org bugzilla that might become (or already is) WONTFIX, but is interesting for Mer | 12:04 |
| andre___ | like bug 2249 which even has a patch | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | andre___: LETTHEPEOPLEFIXIT? | 12:04 |
| andre___ | no, that's called "patch" actually :-P | 12:04 |
| andre___ | isn't WONTFIX == LETTHEPEOPLEFIXIT ? | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 12:05 |
| RST38h | andre: BUGSTSKEEPS | 12:05 |
| RST38h | andre: or NOTOURPROBLEM | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | andre___: if you want you can delegate it to Mer product | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | i'm sure we can find space in that for our kernel patches | 12:05 |
| andre___ | RST38h, no, i'm talking about keywords, not statuses ;-) | 12:05 |
| andre___ | Stskeeps, so prefered way is to clone some bugs? | 12:06 |
| andre___ | i'm fine with that, just tell me what to do :) | 12:06 |
| Stskeeps | andre___: either that or prod me to add it to our sprints | 12:06 |
| Stskeeps | i think i'll prefer the latter really, so CC me on the bugs that should be | 12:07 |
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| Stskeeps | andre___: i find it useful since there's a huge amount of patches laying about that are useful, but i have no idea exists | 12:08 |
| andre___ | Stskeeps, huge? it's only approx 27 | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | well 27 is still a lot :P | 12:09 |
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| Garfeild | hi all | 12:11 |
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| RST38h | BTW, lack of fullscreen/windowed modes and the lack of stylus keyboard mean that the developers will only have ONE screen layout to take care about | 12:37 |
| RST38h | For better or for worse... | 12:37 |
| Jaffa | RST38h: in Fremantle you mean? | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: i think it might be a plus, yea | 12:39 |
| qwerty12 | RST38h, Surely has to be better than UIQ was though: will this device have a flip, does it have a touchscreen etc | 12:39 |
| RST38h | Jaffa: Yea | 12:40 |
| RST38h | qwerty: UIQ configs were a fucking shit... | 12:40 |
| qwerty12 | lol | 12:40 |
| RST38h | qwerty: Not only there were multiple screen layouts that differed with phone model, but the buttons were completely different | 12:40 |
| RST38h | Each phone had a different set and usually missed at least 1/4 of the important buttons like d-pad | 12:41 |
| RST38h | Sts: maybe, although being conservative I'll still miss the status bar and the task bar | 12:41 |
| qwerty12 | Yeah, I don't think this enticed people to develop for it. I remember reading that some apps would crash for instance when using it with flip because the developer was aiming for the P1/M600 etc and forgot about the P990 | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: task switching wasn't shown just ye | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | t | 12:42 |
| RST38h | Sts: But we already know that the task bar at the left is gone | 12:42 |
| lcuk | i thought we were expected to expect multiple layouts - remember the term "lead device" | 12:50 |
| lcuk | in this device with rotation we are gonna expect MORE upheavel than right now | 12:51 |
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| lcuk | so what theres no sidebar, we have to flip between 800*380 and 380*800 - a MUCH worse scenario | 12:52 |
| RST38h | oh, the rotation! | 12:52 |
| lcuk | does your calculator work in landscape? | 12:53 |
| RST38h | if, of course, they are going to use it in their base official system and not just leave it as a loophole for developers who need it | 12:53 |
| * lcuk has same problem with portrait btw :) | 12:53 | |
| RST38h | lcuk: it does. the image you see is actually rotated offline :) | 12:53 |
| mavhc | is these a url will all this info? | 12:53 |
| RST38h | mavhc: Yes. www.internettablettalk.com :) | 12:54 |
| lcuk | RST38h, i mean does it handle both orientations dynamically? | 12:54 |
| RST38h | lcuk: No and it can't really | 12:54 |
| RST38h | lcuk: The real calcs were all portrait | 12:54 |
| mavhc | I hate forums, they're just usenet without the features | 12:54 |
| lcuk | i know - your calc is a specific case, but its indicative | 12:54 |
| RST38h | mavhc: then hate and suffer! ahhahahahahahaaa! | 12:54 |
| mavhc | damn you | 12:54 |
| lcuk | i cannot use your calc because of it tho :$ | 12:54 |
| RST38h | lcuk: Why? | 12:55 |
| RST38h | lcuk: You absolutely positively hate holding the tablet vertically? | 12:55 |
| lcuk | cos my device sits in landscape mode - i dont pick it up to just use the calc - and i use my keyboard | 12:55 |
| mavhc | omg, the colour scheme! my eyes! | 12:55 |
| lcuk | it has a stand and i use it that way, or it sits flat on my desk - my real calculator is the same | 12:56 |
| * lcuk looks over at his casio ms-8v | 12:56 | |
| RST38h | "Mavhc encounters Fremantle color scene", the horror flick | 12:56 |
| RST38h | ok | 12:56 |
| mavhc | that was the itt colour scheme | 12:57 |
| RST38h | mavhc: Then consider it a prequel | 12:57 |
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| lcuk | RST38h, :$ could you make a skinnable landscape one | 12:57 |
| RST38h | lcuk: TI-92 is actually landscape but it runs on 68000 | 12:57 |
| RST38h | and I have no 68000 core of my own | 12:57 |
| lcuk | theres even a special casio one for wazd | 12:57 |
| lcuk | http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=casio%20ms-8v&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi | 12:57 |
| lcuk | (guess which one!) | 12:58 |
| RST38h | lcuk: Dunno if you know, but I also develop the SlideRule and it is landscape ;) | 12:58 |
| lcuk | i do indeed - the sliderule should pop out and do the graphing on your Tis ;) | 12:59 |
| RST38h | Oh, Slashdot has finally gone all dailyrotten | 12:59 |
| lcuk | i just need a quick calc calculator personally - the normal one is right for my needs | 13:00 |
| RST38h | "...the creators of South Park, were given a very special gift by US marines: a signed photo of Saddam Hussein. During his captivity, the marines forced Saddam to repeatedly watch the movie South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut, which shows him as the boyfriend of Satan. Stone said, "We're very proud of our signed Saddam picture and what it means." | 13:00 |
| lcuk | ? | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: isn't that somewhat like against the geneva convention? :P | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | still, saddam has an excellent role in that movie | 13:00 |
| RST38h | Sts: All I know is that it is against readers' sanity =) | 13:00 |
| lcuk | hang on, is that a comment? | 13:01 |
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| lcuk | slashdot trolls havebeen in the gutter for eons | 13:01 |
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| LinuxCode | garr my msynctool wont work | 13:04 |
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| RST38h | lcuk: it is an article not a comment | 13:07 |
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| lcuk | RST38h, o_O which i mustv missed it lol | 13:26 |
| lcuk | LinuxCode, you will get detention if you continue stomping around | 13:26 |
| LinuxCode | lol | 13:26 |
| LinuxCode | I almost got it back to nomral now | 13:26 |
| LinuxCode | todo sink of member 2 of type evo2-sync had an error: Failed to open default tasks: No such calendar | 13:27 |
| LinuxCode | getting that now | 13:27 |
| * LinuxCode searches | 13:27 | |
| lcuk | LinuxCode, what language do you work in | 13:27 |
| LinuxCode | ? | 13:27 |
| LinuxCode | Im not hacking it, just configing atm | 13:28 |
| lcuk | when you do your normal work - i know you are lookin at khertans here | 13:28 |
| * lcuk doesnt think hes ever asked | 13:28 | |
| matmo | hiya all. Just ran out of space installing Diablo SDK. Looking around for stuff to delete and noticed a hard link(?) to /scratchbox from /scratchbox/users/<my-acc>/scratchbox. Normal? | 13:28 |
| lcuk | matmo, ran out of space where? on your desktop/laptop? | 13:29 |
| lcuk | nothing to delete inside the sdk, buy a bigger harddrive or remove your pron hidden folder | 13:29 |
| matmo | lcuk: does it matter? It's a notebook. | 13:29 |
| lcuk | it matters cos ive never heard of it runnin out of space lol - make more room for the sdk | 13:30 |
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| lcuk | you are space constrained on the device itself but its down to your own sorting out space wise, you are best deleting stuff from your regular install(which you should understand where space is wasted) before trying to trim the sdk(which you dont know whats needed or not) | 13:31 |
| matmo | lcuk: sry, I should be clear, I'm not trying to delete anything from the SDK, just noticed that self referencing dir and have not read up on SB in a log while | 13:33 |
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| matmo | (long while) | 13:33 |
| matmo | but now you mention it :-) what's "ccache"? | 13:33 |
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| RST38h | matmo: in fact there is stuff to delete | 13:35 |
| RST38h | matmo: sdk should have installed etch toolchain for you | 13:35 |
| RST38h | matmo: that toolchain includes the whole latex distribution, get rid of it | 13:35 |
| RST38h | fonts too | 13:35 |
| matmo | RST38h: do you refer to stuff in "devkits"? | 13:36 |
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| RST38h | Aside from that, if you have got Ubuntu, Open Office, Evolution, and older kernels are obvious candidates for deletion | 13:36 |
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| RST38h | matmo: dunno, it should be in /opt somewhere | 13:37 |
| * RST38h uses scratchbox2 | 13:37 | |
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| RST38h | Once you delete Open Office, Ubuntu may even let you uninstall Java =) | 13:38 |
| lcuk | crap bbl | 13:38 |
| lcuk | cya in a bit lc | 13:38 |
| LinuxCode | kk | 13:39 |
| matmo | I have two drives set up, SB is on the second one, 5G, now with 525M free | 13:39 |
| LinuxCode | what the hell | 13:39 |
| LinuxCode | it did sync | 13:40 |
| LinuxCode | so why is it bitching | 13:40 |
| RST38h | matmo: Well, I have no idea what you have on that second drive | 13:40 |
| tank-man | if you don't even have space for the sdk, how do you think you will have space to compile stuff | 13:40 |
| RST38h | matmo: you can try doing du /second/drive/root | sort -rn |more | 13:41 |
| matmo | tank-man: I did not expect it to use up all the space, guess I must have included the dbg option | 13:41 |
| matmo | RST38h: no need, I'm trawling it with kdirstat | 13:42 |
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| Stskeeps | nah, scratchbox is weird.. | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:42 |
| RST38h | "weird" does not even start to describe it... | 13:42 |
| RST38h | Unfortunately, SB2 is slowly heading the same way | 13:42 |
| matmo | RST38h: I take it SB2 is much easier to get along with... | 13:43 |
| matmo | oh really? what's wrong with SB2? Hoping to move to it soon. | 13:43 |
| matmo | Will I get away with just rerunning the SDK install script again or do I need to clean anything out from the first attempt? | 13:46 |
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| RST38h | matmo: SB2 is way more humane | 13:53 |
| RST38h | matmo: But it will still take your disk space so do not get too happy too soon | 13:53 |
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| matmo | RST38h: it will be going on another machine when I use it. This one is choking as it is. | 13:54 |
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| RST38h | Just delete packages you are not using | 13:55 |
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| lardman | morning all | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | morning lardman | 14:35 |
| lardman | qwerty12: afternoon to you though ;) | 14:35 |
| lardman | hey Stskeeps | 14:35 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | lardman: aww, you remembered ;P. afternoon :) | 14:36 |
| lardman | ;) | 14:36 |
| lardman | afternoon's when I can see the end of the day in sight! | 14:37 |
| lardman | that presentation of Kate's was interesting | 14:37 |
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| lcuk | lardman, hi, which presentation did kate do | 14:39 |
| lardman | it's linked from itt somewhere, I don't have the link handy though | 14:39 |
| lcuk | heh Stskeeps was it the one you gave me earlier - ive seen it but couldnt find any ref to kate | 14:40 |
| lcuk | lardman, how long are you off for easter then - are you in at the mo | 14:43 |
| lardman | am at work at the mo | 14:43 |
| lardman | back on Wed | 14:43 |
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| lcuk | lardman, lucky you, i get tomorrow and monday off | 14:48 |
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| lcuk | reading kates presentation shows a divergence in what was said | 14:49 |
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| lcuk | at the start she says desktop widgets will be in their own process | 14:49 |
| lardman | lcuk: the wonders of working in academia ;) | 14:49 |
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| lcuk | the later the references to dynamic linking (where have I heard that before) | 14:49 |
| lardman | yeah they will all be in the same process | 14:50 |
| lardman | but that process is not critical to the rest of the system | 14:50 |
| lcuk | yeah it never has been has it | 14:50 |
| lardman | so yes if one crashes they all go, but the tablet doens't go down too | 14:50 |
| lardman | it is atm, they are in hildon-desktop atm, which does everything | 14:50 |
| lcuk | furrymuff :) | 14:51 |
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| lcuk | makes me :( then that applets themselves cant make use of a clutter stage | 14:51 |
| lardman | yeah, will be interesting to know how they'll share that stuff now that people are asking for it | 14:52 |
| lardman | share the feature that is, not information | 14:52 |
| lcuk | yeah i understand the problem quite extensively - i went through it myself when starting the library - i can see a path now that gives it for my stuff, but its gonna be hard to break opengl | 14:53 |
| lcuk | unless opengl can composite opengl (H) | 14:53 |
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| lardman | Are Nokia chargers known to be a bit fragile? | 14:56 |
| qwerty12_N800 | a bit? | 14:56 |
| Jaffa | I've heard of it | 14:56 |
| lardman | I think my second one has just broken, luck I've got a couple of phones and devices | 14:56 |
| qwerty12_N800 | i've broken 3 | 14:56 |
| lardman | qwerty12_N800: that was typical English understatement ;) | 14:56 |
| lardman | bring on usb-charging I say | 14:57 |
| lardman | but first lunch! | 14:57 |
| lardman | bbiab | 14:58 |
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| ShadowJK | hm | 15:02 |
| * ShadowJK 'd hate usb charging :( | 15:02 | |
| ShadowJK | especially the kind that refuses to charge without something "smart" on the other end of the usb cable | 15:02 |
| lcuk | ShadowJK, smart being 240 volts of intelligence | 15:04 |
| ShadowJK | No I mean when the device requires a computer or similar to be on the other end and explicitly grant the device permission to charge before it starts drawing power from the usb cable | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | ShadowJK: usb power supplies exist | 15:05 |
| ShadowJK | It's a fucking headache finding an external pack that supports that, and they're expensive | 15:05 |
| ShadowJK | Yes but again you have to find one that negotiates and doesn't supply power, which most of them do | 15:06 |
| ShadowJK | doesn't just supply power* | 15:06 |
| ShadowJK | Nevermind that there are several incompatible practices on how a device recognizes/detects and negotiates with the usb charger.. | 15:06 |
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| ShadowJK | I like the nokia charging plug, it's easy, you just give it voltage and the device sucks up power | 15:07 |
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| lcuk | the same could occur with usb, but we would need 2 usb plugs | 15:07 |
| lcuk | or you lose the benfitis, i would hate to have to unplug (for instance) my keyboard just to charge it | 15:07 |
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| lcuk | not that i use the usb | 15:07 |
| ShadowJK | Or you could just do what everyone did at first when charge through usb was "invented", charge regardless :P | 15:08 |
| lcuk | hold on, cant talk must charge | 15:09 |
| ShadowJK | freerunner has this fun thing too, if the battery is drained empty, it can't boot, so it can't negotiate charge current, so it sits sipping a very tiny current for an eternity before it starts working again | 15:09 |
| lcuk | with a phone its fine because the usb was only used relaly for computer connection | 15:09 |
| lcuk | arghhhh | 15:10 |
| lcuk | do you have a freerunner | 15:10 |
| ShadowJK | no | 15:10 |
| ShadowJK | it's in their FAQ | 15:10 |
| * lcuk will have to get one | 15:10 | |
| ShadowJK | dunno if it's true or not :) | 15:10 |
| lcuk | it is cos the freerunner main bod said | 15:10 |
| lcuk | in a big presentation i saw last night | 15:10 |
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| ShadowJK | lcuk, what did he say? | 15:12 |
| lcuk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFuwhPXYxxI its a tough presentation to give | 15:13 |
| lcuk | its a bit long, but explains lots about different issues | 15:14 |
| ShadowJK | Oh I was watching that until my please-dont-kill-my-eardrums device fell apart | 15:15 |
| ShadowJK | and then I couldn't find my bag of cable ties to fix it | 15:15 |
| VDVsx | ShadowJK, he freeruneer issue is true, I have one :) | 15:15 |
| VDVsx | *the | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | ShadowJK: re 'freerunner has this fun thing too', there's a reason why tablets shut down | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | they go to a safe level | 15:16 |
| ShadowJK | If freerunner doesn't shut down then they're a ticking timebomb | 15:16 |
| ShadowJK | But they consume more power on boot than USB charging can provide, so it is my understanding that they refuse to boot if the safe level has been reached | 15:17 |
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| VDVsx | 20 to 30 hours idle and the battery gone (but depends on the distro) | 15:19 |
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| ShadowJK | VDVsx, I'm guessing it's even worse surfing the web? | 15:29 |
| lcuk | VDVsx, the most striking thing from the video presentation: WHY WASNT HE USING BLUEMAEMO FOR HIS PROJECTOR | 15:30 |
| lcuk | he had a bluetooth remote | 15:30 |
| qwerty12_N800 | or remoko :> | 15:30 |
| lcuk | you know what i mea | 15:30 |
| lcuk | n | 15:30 |
| VDVsx | lcuk, I presented a project at Fosdem and I was obligated to use one of this remotes too :( | 15:31 |
| VDVsx | ShadowJK, browsing is fine, but the wifi drivers are very poor | 15:32 |
| lcuk | VDVsx, sad | 15:32 |
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| lcuk | VDVsx, about the video itself, that mustv been so difficult to get up and say, i felt for the guy | 15:33 |
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| ShadowJK | VDVsx, worse than on N8x0? | 15:34 |
| VDVsx | ShadowJK, it's a good tool for hacking, but is very far away to a daily use device (phone+ internet + pim) | 15:35 |
| lcuk | most people still dont expect internet on phones ;) | 15:35 |
| ShadowJK | bah, internet has been my primary use for a phone since 2004 | 15:36 |
| ShadowJK | when I got my first gprs-enabled phone | 15:36 |
| lcuk | primary use for me has been phones | 15:37 |
| lcuk | phonecalls | 15:37 |
| lcuk | and the only time i have *ever* done something other has been sitting at the barbers | 15:37 |
| lcuk | for 15 minutes every 6 months i sit and play games | 15:37 |
| lcuk | ive never had a need for it randomly any other time | 15:37 |
| * aquatix reads a book on his n810 when waiting at the barbers | 15:38 | |
| lcuk | n8x0 isnt a phone ;) i play with mine all the time lol | 15:38 |
| aquatix | yeah, but that's just to illustrate that i don't even use it there ;) | 15:38 |
| aquatix | i use it as PIM though | 15:39 |
| ShadowJK | When I got N810 I considered it an upgrade in screensize for my phone :) | 15:39 |
| VDVsx | I don't use internet on the phone, because of the small screens, but if a got a phone with a bigger screen, maybe | 15:39 |
| * aquatix has been thinking about the N97 | 15:39 | |
| * lcuk doesnt use internet on his tablet mostly either | 15:39 | |
| aquatix | but maybe i'll wait for another year | 15:39 |
| * Myrtti wants a N86, still | 15:39 | |
| ShadowJK | is that the one with OLED? | 15:40 |
| aquatix | also nice | 15:40 |
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| aquatix | as are the E71, E75 and E55 :) | 15:40 |
| aquatix | but maybe i wait till symbian^2 | 15:40 |
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| * VDVsx have a 5800 for his master thesis research, but don't use for nothing more :P | 15:40 | |
| aquatix | that'd make me do 3 years with a smartphone | 15:40 |
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| Myrtti | ShadowJK: it's the one with the 8MP camera, which is the killer feature for me | 15:41 |
| aquatix | VDVsx: danm you ;) | 15:41 |
| aquatix | VDVsx: i chose the wrong research subject, clearly | 15:41 |
| ShadowJK | aren't the optics and sensorsize crap anyway? | 15:41 |
| aquatix | Myrtti: can't you better get a decent compact camera? | 15:41 |
| * aquatix likes the Canon G10, but already has a dSLR | 15:41 | |
| Myrtti | aquatix: the question isn't can I get a better decent compact camera | 15:42 |
| ShadowJK | what do they cost once they can talk to the outside world.. | 15:42 |
| aquatix | however, the G10 would fit better in my pocket ;) | 15:42 |
| Myrtti | the question is, would I carry it with me everywhere | 15:42 |
| aquatix | true | 15:42 |
| Myrtti | that's why I love my N95 really much | 15:42 |
| aquatix | same for me | 15:42 |
| aquatix | but camera phone picture quality isn't that great still... | 15:42 |
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| * ShadowJK is still hoping nokia would update E70 :( | 15:43 | |
| Myrtti | aquatix: it has been good enough for me since Nov 2007 :-) | 15:43 |
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| Myrtti | it's not really about the picture quality for me, it's about capturing moments | 15:46 |
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| suihkulokki | for all in .fi: freee thursday today 18:00, american bar @ kalevankatu | 15:51 |
| aquatix | Myrtti: fair enough :) | 15:52 |
| * aquatix likes having both ;) | 15:52 | |
| aquatix | but at this moment, i have a phone without cam, and a dSLR that's too large for my pocket | 15:52 |
| ShadowJK | Should I just assume since you didn't mention any city, that it's somewhere inside kehä-3? :-) | 15:52 |
| aquatix | so i actually almost never have a cam for `those moments' | 15:53 |
| aquatix | :( | 15:53 |
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| Myrtti | http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3296132668/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3224545357/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3170746932/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2954713842/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2893825745/ :-P | 15:56 |
| Myrtti | squirrels ♥ | 15:56 |
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| aquatix | :) | 16:00 |
| aquatix | and a nokia 770 | 16:01 |
| aquatix | and some beautiful skies | 16:02 |
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| svu | alterego ping? | 16:07 |
| lcuk | Myrtti, you are a squirrel lover too! do you prefer batter or breadcrumbs? | 16:09 |
| * lcuk only cares for red squirrels. damned greys are vermin invaders | 16:10 | |
| Myrtti | lcuk: we have only red ones in Finland, fortunately | 16:11 |
| Myrtti | in abundance, to boot | 16:11 |
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| lcuk | :) did you bring any over here with you? | 16:12 |
| lcuk | and dont ever let a grey sneak in your luggage | 16:12 |
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| Myrtti | I think ryanscare people would have opposed to that | 16:12 |
| lcuk | they wont care as long as you pay extra | 16:13 |
| lcuk | they will just wave you through if its in a clear plastic bag | 16:13 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | are drugs smuggled in like that too? :) | 16:15 |
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| lcuk | i always assumed drugs come via other channels. afterall military airports exist to fly supplies back from afghanistan dont they | 16:16 |
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| wazd | onetwo | 17:08 |
| Stskeeps | three | 17:08 |
| wazd | survivors?) | 17:08 |
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| Stskeeps | hehe | 17:08 |
| aquatix | none | 17:08 |
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| Stskeeps | holy crap, http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/static/eb/drfront/images/front-2-image-1152539.jpeg?0d63e6a63609d5cc869325a54155a10b - impressive the driver didn't get a single scratch | 17:09 |
| aquatix | ouch | 17:09 |
| wazd | impressive driver actually performed tht stuff :D | 17:10 |
| aquatix | most likely just driving too fast | 17:10 |
| wazd | aquatix: nope, he did it at 5 km/h :P | 17:11 |
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| wazd | with his teeth :D | 17:11 |
| aquatix | poor tree btw | 17:12 |
| lardman | trees: 1, Mercedes: 0 | 17:12 |
| wazd | oh, btw, I got 1 bug issue in Mer from russian users | 17:14 |
| wazd | wifi doesn't work properly at all | 17:14 |
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| lardman | cu later chaps | 17:15 |
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| wazd | cya | 17:15 |
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| lcuk | r'#y[yh[;h;'[uyp[yhplul6 | 17:18 |
| lcuk | tly5kluj7 ,jny mh ,jm ,jm , ,m ,. ,.655y6;u;iu;'m; ;6[6ppjlhjluyluyjpl[ | 17:19 |
| lcuk | oitttytttkyjkhhgmkggfknkmnkbglhlnlnklhnklnkmnmg/h/y#ujy;'jjyln nlhynjhmkljmlujm;uj6l;jujjuljumjh;jhy'j;mn'nh.hlhynnji,jlpplyhljyljl;;l | 17:19 |
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| lcuk | ry94yreyurtg6yt 546io56kyuiyuirtyrt uriyritru 8rty bregyre78greg vf7ér874 €788749327438564365463478rt tru7y547y547847ryureuyeryureyueyueyeeyyu | 17:20 |
| Corsac | hey cat | 17:21 |
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| VDVsx | lcuk fall a sleep in his keyboard, lol | 17:22 |
| churl | who's the user if i wanna ssh into my tablet? | 17:22 |
| VDVsx | root | 17:22 |
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| churl | i dont recall setting a password, but i may have? :) | 17:23 |
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| Corsac | user@ | 17:24 |
| VDVsx | if you installed the ssh tools you must have one | 17:24 |
| tank-man | try all the defaults, god/love/sex/rootme/toor/emtoor | 17:25 |
| churl | lol | 17:25 |
| VDVsx | churl, did you installed openssh for e.g ? | 17:26 |
| churl | looks like the "root" program i have is one that i just type in "root" and dont give a password | 17:26 |
| churl | ha, let me check if it's on there ;) | 17:26 |
| churl | VDVsx: ive got openssh/client/server | 17:27 |
| VDVsx | churl,ok, then you have to remember the pass :) | 17:29 |
| VDVsx | try rootme | 17:29 |
| churl | k | 17:30 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: can you give me a link to the mer-artwork page please? looks like I've lost mine while reinstall( | 17:30 |
| Stskeeps | wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Artwork , or mailing list? | 17:31 |
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| churl | VDVsx: no luck | 17:31 |
| churl | i only use one ;) | 17:31 |
| wazd | oh, no, not the artwork, page with element sizes | 17:31 |
| churl | but root@ or user@? | 17:31 |
| wazd | sorry | 17:31 |
| VDVsx | churl, root@192.... | 17:32 |
| churl | VDVsx: thanks :) | 17:32 |
| VDVsx | churl, worked ? | 17:33 |
| churl | no | 17:33 |
| VDVsx | lol | 17:33 |
| churl | six666 | 17:33 |
| churl | ;) | 17:33 |
| aquatix | churl: dude, why do you know my pw | 17:33 |
| churl | i know how you are | 17:33 |
| Stskeeps | wazd: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Documentation/Desktop_layout | 17:34 |
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| wazd | Stskeeps: yep, that one, thanks | 17:34 |
| aquatix | churl: evil? and factually incorrect? | 17:34 |
| churl | aquatix: exactly | 17:34 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: i'm experimenting with default Mer theme right now :) | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | alright :) | 17:35 |
| Stskeeps | there should be template.svg | 17:35 |
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| wazd | Stskeeps: why svg? | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | wazd: when working some with it, it makes a lot of sense | 17:40 |
| Stskeeps | there's a bunch of layer information and so on | 17:40 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: Photoshop can't save in .svg( | 17:41 |
| X-Fade | wazd: No, because it is a bitmap editor. | 17:41 |
| wazd | X-Fade: orly :) | 17:42 |
| X-Fade | wazd: Time to go to Inkscape ;) | 17:42 |
| Stskeeps | wazd: you can also edit the png manually, or use inkscape or illustrator or whatever | 17:42 |
| wazd | I don't understand why we need vector theme) | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | wazd: when making the themes and gradients it's just nice to work with :P | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | it's like if we had a .psd | 17:44 |
| wazd | I have a .psd :P | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | then you can just edit the png manually | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | we export to the png anyway from svg | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | we don't use svg for the actual theming build | 17:46 |
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| lbt | lcuk: rofl | 18:07 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: I've tweaked zenvoid's idea: http://s51.radikal.ru/i132/0904/42/dbedb588305d.jpg | 18:08 |
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| Stskeeps | whoa | 18:09 |
| keesj | sweet | 18:09 |
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| Stskeeps | wazd: i'm not sure we can do the |'s | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | maybe, but not sure | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | come and talk to zenvoid about it | 18:10 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: hmm, why so? | 18:10 |
| Stskeeps | he knows the tech stuff :) | 18:10 |
| wazd | Stskeeps: okay | 18:11 |
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| Stskeeps | (he's in #mer) | 18:11 |
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| churl | i saw a video of an n800 running vmware with winCE and android. Is that available for download? | 19:09 |
| Stskeeps | i wish | 19:10 |
| churl | i figured | 19:10 |
| churl | :( | 19:11 |
| Jaffa | It'll also be very bare metal | 19:12 |
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| churl | i just want to run an app to watch railroad traffic that only works in windows..... | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | wince != windows though | 19:13 |
| * churl dreams | 19:13 | |
| fireun | thats a nightmare, that is. | 19:13 |
| churl | i know, i really want it | 19:13 |
| X-Fade | churl: vnc? :) | 19:13 |
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| churl | X-Fade: yeah, it does work ok like that, but......... im just dreaming is all.... | 19:14 |
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| Stskeeps | heh, i have considered putting up a winxp virtualbox instance, and then using RDP from my tablet | 19:14 |
| fireun | churl: get another hobby | 19:14 |
| churl | besides linux, brewing beer, trains, sewing, biking, banjo, and cooking? | 19:15 |
| fireun | grow some veggies | 19:16 |
| churl | my new hobby is to take my medicine. | 19:16 |
| churl | fireun: we're gonna grow some hops and have some chickens at our friends house down the road, they have a back yard (in a city) | 19:17 |
| mikkov_ | X-Fade: do you know if digia@web download will be fixed? | 19:19 |
| X-Fade | mikkov_: They have been sending me 10 mails today orso.. | 19:19 |
| mikkov_ | X-Fade: so what's the problem? ;) | 19:19 |
| X-Fade | I'm trying to get the message across that they need to properly build it and generate a .changes file. | 19:20 |
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| X-Fade | But somehow they have issues with following my suggestions and actually reading my mails ;) | 19:20 |
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| X-Fade | So I have no idea if it will ever work out. | 19:20 |
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| mikkov_ | I could do some consultation 100e/h :) | 19:21 |
| X-Fade | I told them 10 times that qt4.5 is not in Extras. (qt 4.4 is) | 19:21 |
| X-Fade | And then I had to beg them not to link to extras-devel ;) | 19:22 |
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| mikkov_ | yeah qt is problematic currently | 19:22 |
| X-Fade | Antonio told me that qt4.5 will probably promoted next week. | 19:22 |
| X-Fade | If everthing goes well. | 19:23 |
| mikkov_ | then there will both qt4.4 and qt4.5 programs in extras. not good | 19:23 |
| X-Fade | Well, as long as they have specified their dependencies correctly? | 19:23 |
| mikkov_ | depencies is not problem, but limitited space in out tablets | 19:24 |
| X-Fade | Yeah, true. | 19:24 |
| mikkov_ | try to install both qt4.4 and qt4.5 :) | 19:24 |
| mikkov_ | but I think there is actually only couple of qt programs anyway. Maybe they could be "forced" to qt4.5 | 19:25 |
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| mikkov_ | but I really would like to try digia@web. Hopefully they get it released somehow | 19:27 |
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| Stskeeps | lo slonopotamus | 19:31 |
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| Martinator | hello, can anyone help me and give me a repository where I can find libgobject-2.0-0 and libgmodule-2.0-0? I need it for jalimo classpath.gtk installation | 19:40 |
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| slonopotamus | hi, Stskeeps. how's mer going? | 19:46 |
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| Stskeeps | going fine - we have a developer meeting together with mozilla and maemo (i guess we're under maemo, but we're a focus area too), in end of may | 19:46 |
| RST38h | "BYD's "Mars" MID clamshell has a phone on the back, runs full Windows XP" | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: 3 hours of idle? | 19:46 |
| RST38h | Sts: Prolly less, but I guess "phone on the back" will work long after its host becomes a brick | 19:47 |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: true | 19:47 |
| RST38h | The idea sounds so...mm...Chinese though... | 19:47 |
| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, they promise to make mozilla fast? :) | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus: hehe | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus: http://wiki.maemo.org/MozillaMaemoDanishWeekend | 19:48 |
| RST38h | Sts: What is the agenda anyway? What are these mozilla folks bringing to the summit? | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: well, it's a hands-on thing. i dunno what fennec and mozilla are bringing | 19:48 |
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| Stskeeps | i know what activity intentions people in Mer has, at least, and we try to plan in a structured manner | 19:49 |
| RST38h | Sts: aha | 19:49 |
| RST38h | Sts: not to have an agenda is disturbing though | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's not presentations | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | it's coding and discussions etc | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | and perhaps some presentations but not the major part | 19:50 |
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| RST38h | If it is coding, then the first question is "what are you gonna be coding"? Not hacking on the fennec code base, right? =) | 19:52 |
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| Stskeeps | it's Mozilla and/or Maemo, so | 19:53 |
| Stskeeps | which means fremantle stars, Maemo community projects, Mer, etc | 19:54 |
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| slonopotamus | hehe | 19:54 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus: no clue if you can use this, but the opensuse build people have a quite proper qemu-supported arm chroot these days (user level emulation) | 19:55 |
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| slonopotamus | Stskeeps, well, qemu has it, not opensuse :) | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | slonopotamus: they have qemu + patches, and ignore the opensuse thing | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | basically, i can build most stuff with just chroot | 19:58 |
| slonopotamus | gentoo people prefer hardcore crosscompiling :) | 19:58 |
| Stskeeps | k | 19:59 |
| slonopotamus | and i chose native way :) | 19:59 |
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| Stskeeps | fair enough | 20:00 |
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| lcuk | VDVsx, lbt : i would hazard a guess it was jacob | 20:02 |
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| VDVsx | lcuk, oh, I feared for you, I thought is was Sylar | 20:04 |
| lbt | and I was talking about itt | 20:04 |
| lcuk | heh | 20:04 |
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| lcuk | lbt, the jedi training program? :D | 20:05 |
| lbt | yup | 20:05 |
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| lopz | hola | 20:11 |
| VDVsx | lcuk, jedi program ?? | 20:11 |
| lcuk | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=278604 | 20:12 |
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| VDVsx | :) | 20:14 |
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| slonopotamus | ~ping | 20:16 |
| infobot | ~pong | 20:16 |
| sisto | it's coming... | 20:16 |
| sisto | http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/09/nokia-working-on-new-mid-for-this-year-wild-qwerty-tech-for-nex/ | 20:16 |
| sisto | :> | 20:17 |
| JvA | VDVsx: When I make a comment on my own proposal, do others who has commented get a notice of this? | 20:17 |
| Jaffa | Muwahahaha - for free wifi on Virgin trains you just have to sit close enough to first class and restrict your computer to a specific AP's MAC address | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:17 |
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| VDVsx | JvA, yes, if they have your proposal updates subscribed | 20:18 |
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| sisto | dropped | 20:19 |
| sisto | so it's coming | 20:19 |
| JvA | VDVsx: ok :) | 20:19 |
| Stskeeps | any GSoC news on allocations yet? | 20:19 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, April 20 | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | k | 20:20 |
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| lbt | hmm my tablet had its bootmenu blatted when app-mgr crashed.... | 20:23 |
| lbt | it rebooted and a red 'don't interrupt' came up | 20:23 |
| lbt | it went to 20% and then rebooted into a 'standard' initfs | 20:23 |
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| Stskeeps | "don't interrupt"? O_o | 20:24 |
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| * RST38h has now started to believe that Win7 installer requires a human sacrifice to complete | 20:28 | |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: I didn't interrupt, I didn't even cough! | 20:29 |
| RST38h | lbt: You LOOKED at it the wrong way! | 20:29 |
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| lbt | RST38h: surely the Win7 installer requires a human sacrifice to begin? | 20:30 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: SSU breaks the initfs, yeah | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | just Install bootmenu again | 20:30 |
| RST38h | lbt: Apparently, not. It is sneaky in this sense. | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | and your items will be back | 20:30 |
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| lbt | mmm - it was my custom bootmenu using bootmenu.d IIRC - did that get integrated | 20:31 |
| lbt | It was a long time ago! | 20:31 |
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| Stskeeps | yes | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | well it is bootmenu.d items still yet :P | 20:31 |
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| GeneralAntilles | The applications categories continually manage to put me in a bad mood. | 21:06 |
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| Stskeeps | maybe the whole intent was to piss the community so much off they took things into their own hands and conquer the maemo platform? ;p | 21:07 |
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| * lbt has lost bootmenu? | 21:11 | |
| Stskeeps | grab the merinstaller and Install bootmenu, and it should be in /etc/bootmenu.d/*.item | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | and install bootmenu will put it there | 21:12 |
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| lbt | it's like using someone elses machine - this partition is so old | 21:12 |
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| GeneralAntilles | It'd be nice if we could just get the Talk transition over with so the conspiracy theories could end (well, or move on, anyway). | 21:26 |
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| lbt | yeah but when we own their souls it'll be too late anyhow... | 21:27 |
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| GeneralAntilles | We need a couple major data loss bugs to get Nokia to ship an update. | 21:32 |
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| lcuk | GeneralAntilles, thats actually a reasonable point lol | 21:34 |
| tank-man | about those app categories, I saw two categories with the same name and same case, wtf | 21:35 |
| lcuk | lbt, quick git thing. i have the full git repo on libliqbase/.git if i am in a subfolder (for instance) libliqbase/src and do git operations, do they go into the main repo as if i have called from the root | 21:37 |
| lcuk | or do they just update the stuff in that one subfolder where i am | 21:37 |
| GeneralAntilles | tank-man, one package was using the localizable form "user/accessories", so h-a-m localized it to "Accessories" and the other was just using "user/Accessories". | 21:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | tank-man, change your locale to fr_FR or something. | 21:38 |
| tank-man | i usually just browse by "all" category | 21:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah, so does everybody else | 21:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | because the categories and the browsing interface are shit | 21:39 |
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| GeneralAntilles | and Nokia can't be arsed to fix it. | 21:39 |
| lcuk | cos you dont want to miss anything | 21:39 |
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| lbt | lcuk: yes - git always (~) operates on the main .git repo | 22:46 |
| lcuk | thanks lbt i was just worried if i was 2 or 3 levels in whether i needed to rerun the commands from the base folder | 22:48 |
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| lbt | no, it's self-contained inside .git/ and that's where everything gitty lives (although it can look in each dir for control files like .gitexclude) | 22:50 |
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| lcuk | ahhh cool, so it just walks backwards until it finds the .git thats responsible | 22:51 |
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| lbt | yes | 22:55 |
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| lbt | hmm bootmenu lost my entries... | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | they're in /etc/bootmenu.d on your original partition | 22:59 |
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| lbt | hmm, I reflashed with the _rot kernel | 23:11 |
| lbt | but I was in an alternate partition when I installed | 23:11 |
| lbt | so I guess my modules are there | 23:11 |
| lbt | so I guess I'll need to re-install the modules in the mmc before I get ext3 access... | 23:12 |
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| tds5016 | hello has anyone else here dealt with gstreamer to stream a video with rtp? | 23:24 |
| Stskeeps | i have successfully done it once towards a VLC | 23:24 |
| tds5016 | and if so, can someone help me read the stream in with a gstreamer pipeline? | 23:24 |
| Stskeeps | i would show you my notes but i think some bad virus rooted my pc :P | 23:24 |
| tds5016 | Stskeeps:I have it working on vlc :-) | 23:25 |
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| tds5016 | any idea how I can do it with gstreamer, and not the sdp file? | 23:26 |
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| tds5016 | I need to encode the the video as an mp4 or something else :-/. | 23:27 |
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| b-man` | i'm jumping back into Mer :) | 23:30 |
| Stskeeps | b-man`: sane decision | 23:31 |
| b-man` | XD | 23:32 |
| b-man` | no matter what i did, Plawzix would not boot | 23:32 |
| b-man` | even with an angstrom base | 23:33 |
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| cheng_99 | hi, does there anyone know how to set the appear time for hildon_banner_show_animation? | 23:43 |
| cheng_99 | i made a animation bar, and want to destroy it after a process finished, how can i do it? | 23:44 |
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