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| Stskeeps | timelE61i: 'Sorry, an error is causing troubles to send your file.' | 00:02 |
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| Stskeeps | (.. in a localization framework) | 00:02 |
| tds5016 | anyone know the best way to get video to stream it from the n810? | 00:03 |
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| RST38h | Sts: Could you, as a hardcore linux geek, enlighten me on something? | 00:04 |
| Stskeeps | mm, maybe | 00:04 |
| Stskeeps | and i'm more of a unix geek | 00:04 |
| Stskeeps | my first unix was a SINIX :P | 00:04 |
| RST38h | Sts: I have got an embedded Linux install that I want to run my own program on startup, rather than ask for login. How do I approach this? | 00:04 |
| * RST38h started on CMU Mach | 00:04 | |
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| Stskeeps | RST38h: inittab stuff, use your program in inittab i guess, or use runlevels.. | 00:05 |
| RST38h | aha | 00:05 |
| Stskeeps | as in, the login comes from the getty stuff :P | 00:05 |
| RST38h | yea, I know that but do not know where Linux keeps it =) | 00:06 |
| Stskeeps | if they're still on sysvinit, /etc/rc?.d , or /etc/inittab | 00:06 |
| * Stskeeps should go to bed | 00:07 | |
| RST38h | inittab looks like the best place | 00:07 |
| RST38h | also allows me to keep getty on the serial port | 00:07 |
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| andre__ | hmm, nobody filing new bugs for me :'( | 00:15 |
| GeneralAntilles | andre__, just wait 'til the beta. ;) | 00:16 |
| lbt | scratchbox | 00:16 |
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| VDVsx | andre__, can I fill bugs about ITT user's :P ? | 00:17 |
| VDVsx | lol | 00:17 |
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| andre__ | VDVsx, no, out of scope. and PEBKAC. | 00:18 |
| lbt | andre__: are you a Qt person? | 00:19 |
| andre__ | lbt, nope | 00:19 |
| lbt | there's a bug right there then :) | 00:20 |
| lbt | heh | 00:20 |
| lbt | I was going to point you at some stuff but no worries... | 00:20 |
| VDVsx | andre__, PEBKAC can be fixed :) | 00:20 |
| andre__ | lbt, file a bug :) | 00:20 |
| GeneralAntilles | lol | 00:21 |
| tds5016 | anyone know of a tutorail for maemo on how to get access to the camera from C++ or anything like that? | 00:21 |
| lbt | nah, I've been doing some kinetics for Qt-hildon and I want another Qt bod to test them | 00:22 |
| tds5016 | I basically need to get the stream, and send it over a socket. | 00:22 |
| tds5016 | to darwin streaming server. | 00:22 |
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| timelE61i | tDs: the camera is v4l 2 iirc | 00:23 |
| timelE61i | Samples shouldn't be too hard to find | 00:23 |
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| VDVsx | tds5016, I think you can get the camera also through gstream, google should help you | 00:25 |
| tds5016 | VDVsx: do you know what I should google for? | 00:28 |
| tds5016 | am I just using gstreamer directly? and how would I go about doing that with either C or python or WHATEVER would work? | 00:28 |
| VDVsx | tds5016, found this: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/39632 | 00:29 |
| VDVsx | tds5016, HTH | 00:29 |
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| tds5016 | thanks soo much1 | 00:31 |
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| VDVsx | GeneralAntilles, Stskeeps, the nokia camera app is OSS ? | 00:34 |
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| lcuk | VDVsx, even if its not which functionality are you wanting to use | 00:36 |
| VDVsx | lcuk, your framework only take photos or have video too ? | 00:37 |
| lcuk | photos only, but i just access gstreamer which does handle movies | 00:38 |
| lcuk | ie, a standard minimal gstreamer video testing app should give you the functionaluty | 00:38 |
| lcuk | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/30307 | 00:39 |
| lcuk | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/camera/ | 00:39 |
| VDVsx | tds5016, loook above | 00:40 |
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| lcuk | lol i should learn to read scrollback more than 2 or 3 lines :P | 00:41 |
| VDVsx | lcuk, ehheh | 00:41 |
| lcuk | i was distracted by lbt talking about kinetics and thought i had read the whole block | 00:42 |
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| lcuk | lbt, lbt, the delay between pressing down and determining no swipe is in progress, what is it in ms | 00:44 |
| VDVsx | lcuk, talking about lbt, I saw her video. Qt seems really promising on the tablets :) | 00:44 |
| lbt | 300ms | 00:44 |
| lbt | HER! | 00:45 |
| lcuk | yes david (him) has made excellent progress with qt :) | 00:45 |
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| lbt | I think it's 'cos I have Denise on my contacts ;) | 00:45 |
| VDVsx | lbt, sorry :( my english is very rusty | 00:46 |
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| lbt | VDVsx: I forgive you if you install Shopper :D | 00:46 |
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| VDVsx | lbt, already installed | 00:46 |
| lcuk | long tail david :) you have started something | 00:47 |
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| guysoft422 | hey, my device seems to reboot if i connect a USB keyboard. i tried this on my old system (that is in the flash card), and it works ok.. so it seems to be a new bug since i upgraded, did anyone encounter this? | 00:50 |
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| lcuk | lbt, mouse down/mouse up, ie click events. does most of QT work directly on the mousedown | 00:51 |
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| lbt | lcuk : https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/qt-x11/src/gui/widgets/qabstractscrollarea.cpp?revision=460&root=qt4&view=markup | 00:53 |
| lbt | search for QAbstractScrollAreaPrivateScroller | 00:53 |
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| lcuk | doesnt help with what im thinking | 00:54 |
| lcuk | which is related to the other controls within the scrolled area | 00:54 |
| lcuk | and how this tweak will effect them | 00:54 |
| lbt | so I store copies of events, eat them and then replay later to the right widget if needed | 00:54 |
| lcuk | and its all based on time? | 00:55 |
| guysoft422 | how can plugging a usb make the nokia device reboot? is there a way to track why it does that? | 00:55 |
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| lcuk | guysoft422, check the label on the bottom of the keyboard, if its obove or near the 100ma MAX available for usb otg, then its probably overloading the system | 00:56 |
| lcuk | i had it when i first played | 00:56 |
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| lcuk | try it with a powered hub and tell me if it reboots still | 00:56 |
| guysoft422 | lcuk, the keyboard works on the OS that is on the internal flash.. my main system is on the flashcard.. its a cloned version.. i just tried to plug a keyboard here after some months not trying it. and not it hangs | 00:57 |
| lcuk | i dunno, perhaps it still has something to do with power consumption, what rating is the keyboard. | 00:58 |
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| guysoft422 | lcuk, its not the power, its a software problem.. because it works .. and worked before.. also before it hangs the LED flashed white.. it seems to know it is rebooting | 01:01 |
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| guysoft422 | lcuk, more likely its something to do with the hebrew layout i have.. thats a suspicion.. | 01:02 |
| guysoft422 | far more than power.. | 01:02 |
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| guysoft422 | but the main problem is i have no way to debug this... i need something to track | 01:03 |
| lcuk | then you know more than me, i can only go on past experience with bt | 01:03 |
| lcuk | with usb ^ | 01:03 |
| timelE61i | gUys: so | 01:03 |
| timelE61i | Could you please humor lcuk? | 01:03 |
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| guysoft422 | lcuk, you might know how to track such an error. thats what i need .. | 01:04 |
| timelE61i | Just because one kernel allocates power a certain way doesn't mean another does | 01:04 |
| timelE61i | but.. Have you checked dmesg? | 01:04 |
| timelE61i | You can install sysklogd | 01:04 |
| guysoft422 | timelE61i, was there a kernel change the past 3 month | 01:04 |
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| guysoft422 | ?* | 01:05 |
| timelE61i | Kernel would only change w/ releases | 01:05 |
| guysoft422 | timelE61i, then its the same kernel | 01:05 |
| timelE61i | Are you using the same release on both? | 01:05 |
| guysoft422 | timelE61i, yes | 01:06 |
| guysoft422 | i just removed the hebrew package and rebooted, ill test that now | 01:06 |
| lcuk | while its rebooting flip the kb over and read the rating ;) | 01:06 |
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| timelE61i | aNdre: ping | 01:07 |
| jaem | hey folks | 01:08 |
| jaem | did you see this on Engadget today? http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/31/researchers-develop-braille-for-vibrating-touchscreen/ | 01:08 |
| andre__ | timelE61i, pong | 01:08 |
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| jaem | it says they used an N770 for it | 01:08 |
| guysoft422 | lcuk, its a flexi | 01:08 |
| lcuk | jaem, wow, thats inspired! | 01:09 |
| * lcuk likes finding new ways to communicate | 01:09 | |
| jaem | it doesn't sound like they had to modify the hardware, from what I've read so far | 01:09 |
| jaem | lcuk: me too | 01:09 |
| jaem | it's brilliant | 01:09 |
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| lcuk | has anyone stripped the 770, are the speakers piezo? | 01:10 |
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| VDVsx | jaem, I also saw a video (from nokia) where the guys use some sort of responsive touchscreen on a ITT, dunno if is the same research | 01:11 |
| lcuk | fair enough guysoft422, not an answer but since its designed for mobile ill let you off :P | 01:11 |
| jaem | lcuk: it sounds like the screen itself has piezo properties | 01:11 |
| lcuk | i want my tablet to shout and yelp in pain if its pressed too hard | 01:12 |
| guysoft422 | ok, its not the hebrew.. | 01:12 |
| guysoft422 | the other suspects that i installed could be the connection manager, and the debian easy chroot | 01:12 |
| lcuk | jaem, i bet they modded it | 01:12 |
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| lcuk | on the newscientist page they say its in the screen itself: "Nokia 770 Internet Tablet, which has a piezoelectric material built into the touch screen that vibrates when an electric signal is applied to it." | 01:13 |
| jaem | lcuk: that's what I thought, but here's a quote from the NewScientist article: "To display these dots on a touch-screen device, Jussi Rantala of the University of Tampere in Finland and colleagues used a Nokia 770 Internet Tablet, which has a piezoelectric material built into the touch screen that vibrates when an electric signal is applied to it." | 01:13 |
| jaem | lol | 01:13 |
| jaem | oh, I see what you mean - I read it differently than you | 01:14 |
| jaem | I'm trying to find the original paper | 01:14 |
| lcuk | technically, thats possibly true and would work in inverse, but thats not how the touchscreen is made | 01:14 |
| lcuk | A prototype device with a piezoelectric actuator embedded under the touchscreen was used to create tactile feedback. | 01:14 |
| lcuk | ^^^ | 01:14 |
| jaem | ah, okay | 01:14 |
| jaem | link? | 01:14 |
| lcuk | haptics :) | 01:14 |
| jaem | right | 01:15 |
| jaem | still, a neat idea | 01:15 |
| lcuk | in the header for the ieee thing http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/search/wrapper.jsp?arnumber=4760140 | 01:15 |
| jaem | I suppose you could program it so you could just tap some text on the screen with your finger, and have it "read" it to you | 01:15 |
| jaem | thanks | 01:15 |
| timelE61i | wE've had demos of those | 01:15 |
| timelE61i | Both w/ 770s and n800s | 01:15 |
| * timelE61i shrugs | 01:15 | |
| jaem | timelE61i: oh, really? That particular demo? | 01:15 |
| timelE61i | dunno | 01:16 |
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| timelE61i | Various piezo-s | 01:16 |
| jaem | it's a neat idea | 01:16 |
| lcuk | it would help with knowing where you are if done properly | 01:16 |
| jaem | what are you thinking of? | 01:16 |
| timelE61i | It would fail on average | 01:16 |
| timelE61i | Wanna use youtube in microb? | 01:16 |
| timelE61i | Have fun | 01:16 |
| jaem | ? | 01:17 |
| guysoft422 | usb mouse seems to have stoped working too | 01:17 |
| timelE61i | By the time you're using braille, you need custom apps | 01:17 |
| guysoft422 | at least it does not hang | 01:17 |
| lcuk | timelE61i, im thinking for texting without looking ;) | 01:17 |
| timelE61i | Sure we could --enable-accessible | 01:17 |
| timelE61i | Lcuk: my e61i can do that | 01:17 |
| lcuk | boundaries of buttons having a small wall which when stroked over give feedback | 01:17 |
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| lcuk | yeah lol | 01:18 |
| guysoft422 | usb key works. | 01:18 |
| jaem | lcuk: I've heard of a in-car GPS unit that did that | 01:18 |
| timelE61i | And it can speak the replies to me | 01:18 |
| jaem | not sure if it was production or not | 01:18 |
| VDVsx | jaem, http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-demonstrate-haptikos-haptic-touchscreen-prototypes-088405/ http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-promo-video-shows-haptic-touchscreen-concept-for-2008-188043/ and http://www.redferret.net/?p=9533 | 01:18 |
| timelE61i | Note that i'm not claiming n810 touch typing | 01:18 |
| VDVsx | and there a video also, can't found it | 01:18 |
| jaem | VDVsx: thanks - I'll take a look | 01:18 |
| timelE61i | The resistive demos we had and there were a couple... | 01:19 |
| lcuk | ta vdv | 01:19 |
| VDVsx | jaem, one of the links have a video in a nokia event, but I saw other video with the ITT | 01:19 |
| timelE61i | Were interesting but nowhere near marketable | 01:19 |
| timelE61i | If someone got braille truly working, that's probably better than what i've felt | 01:20 |
| timelE61i | But i wouldn't bother | 01:20 |
| jaem | ...the usual story - half the fun things arent' marketable :P | 01:20 |
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| timelE61i | I'd argue that users are better served by a companion device | 01:20 |
| jaem | how is braille traditionally done on computers? I've never looked into it | 01:20 |
| VDVsx | timelE61i, but the responsive thing will be marketable soon, IMO | 01:21 |
| lcuk | with hardware | 01:21 |
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| timelE61i | There's typically a row | 01:21 |
| timelE61i | Which you read repeatedly | 01:21 |
| timelE61i | "read"=scan | 01:21 |
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| jaem | timelE61i: linear-actuated pins, then? | 01:22 |
| timelE61i | yEs | 01:22 |
| jaem | hmm... interesting | 01:23 |
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| timelE61i | think about your average keyboard | 01:24 |
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| timelE61i | But w/ one more row past the fkeys | 01:24 |
| timelE61i | Perhaps there are no fs (i can't remember) | 01:24 |
| timelE61i | That row is output | 01:25 |
| jaem | yeah, I've seen pictures - just nothing detailed | 01:25 |
| timelE61i | anyway... Braille in 3space is hard | 01:25 |
| timelE61i | Err 2space | 01:25 |
| jaem | lol | 01:26 |
| timelE61i | you can try mapping colors to heights if you have decent resolution and algs | 01:26 |
| timelE61i | But you basically need e.g. A high contrast map | 01:27 |
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| timelE61i | So mostly it's an outline and very few labels | 01:27 |
| timelE61i | Google maps today afaik doesn't really have a format that'd suit this problem | 01:27 |
| timelE61i | So a browser for google maps couldn't do much for a blind user | 01:28 |
| timelE61i | If you used tracing algs and then did stuff... Perhaps you could use some sort of shape deforming to give feedback | 01:29 |
| timelE61i | But ... That's hard :) | 01:29 |
| jaem | timelE61i: how about topo data from maps on a much higher-resolution pin grid :D | 01:30 |
| jaem | probably not at all practical, but definitely cool | 01:31 |
| jaem | I could see issues with that | 01:31 |
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| timelE61i | Some things are doable | 01:32 |
| timelE61i | But again, this isn't something you'd put into standard hardware | 01:32 |
| timelE61i | It'd be a second unit | 01:32 |
| timelE61i | Like the current keyboard | 01:32 |
| timelE61i | the costs i'm sure would suck, but ... | 01:34 |
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| jaem | indeed | 01:35 |
| jaem | well, I should go write up my lab report | 01:35 |
| jaem | cheers | 01:35 |
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| timelE61i | aCtually, one thing... | 01:37 |
| timelE61i | You don't need high res | 01:38 |
| timelE61i | You need panning and zoom | 01:38 |
| timelE61i | As long as the thing is say 3"square and you can zoom in/out and pan easily, the user could pan the real screen | 01:39 |
| timelE61i | technically your fingers are high res, but practically, it'd be easier to cut a corner there | 01:39 |
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| * VDVsx thought fini's only get drunk in the weekend's :P | 01:44 | |
| lbt | sun's gone down | 01:44 |
| lbt | they don't know what day it is this month | 01:44 |
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| timelE61i | typically su/mo/tu aren't big nights, but... Bars were open | 01:45 |
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| fireun | there needs to be a firefox plugin that shows which tabs are hogging resources | 02:21 |
| fireun | tired of having too many tabs and not knowing which is causing firefox to run at 100% cpu | 02:22 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hehe | 02:22 |
| fireun | resource management is tough | 02:22 |
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| fireun | ahha! found it.. stupid discovery.com running a scrolling text banner, in flash. | 02:33 |
| fireun | yeah, that was worth it. | 02:33 |
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| bolaum | hello guys! is there a way to check out just canola player? | 03:10 |
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| bolaum | ok, found it... | 03:14 |
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| fireun | http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/greenpeaces-latest-green-gadget-guide-knocks-down-hp-lenovo-dell.php | 05:55 |
| fireun | yay nokia | 05:55 |
| luke-jr | pfft, "green" wackos | 05:57 |
| fireun | pfft, wackos | 05:58 |
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| torkiano | mmmm | 07:18 |
| torkiano | seems that new maemo page is coming | 07:18 |
| torkiano | :) | 07:18 |
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| RST38h | "In less than an hour, SCP-705 had taken control of the Mr. Coffee machine, declaring independence and control over the region. The assault was routed when Dr. Rights brushed them away from the burner, resulting in massive casualties and a complete rout. Interviews with SCP-705 remark on this day with great fear and resentment." | 10:07 |
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| RST38h | moo qwerty | 10:08 |
| qwerty12 | baa RST38h | 10:09 |
| StsN800 | morning qwerty12 | 10:10 |
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| qwerty12 | hey StsN800 | 10:10 |
| RST38h | "Sanctions were put in place to prevent multiple instances of Dr. Bright from being created to prevent Dr. Bright from collaborating with himself, it was found this was not needed. It seems Dr. Bright cannot stand himself, and takes some glee in terminating duplicate cases of himself." | 10:11 |
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| * StsN800 is dragging himself to work/his office | 10:11 | |
| StsN800 | RST38h, i would probably not collaborate well with clones of myself either | 10:12 |
| StsN800 | morning qgil | 10:13 |
| RST38h | Sts: ""Yes, we all find it funny to stick Dr. Bright in female bodies, however, he has come to adapt to them rather too well, as proven by the happy birthday song he performed for Dr. Clef ala Marilyn Monroe. This adaptability is why we have a chimpanzee on hand for his next transfer." | 10:14 |
| StsN800 | hehe | 10:14 |
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| * Stskeeps ponders idly why he went to work today | 10:42 | |
| qwerty12 | Out of the goodness of your heart? | 10:43 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:43 |
| qwerty12 | morning Jaffa, lcuk | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | qwerty12: well my boss isn't here. oh right. im going to prepare for my masters thesis meeting on friday :P | 10:43 |
| qwerty12 | hehe | 10:43 |
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| Stskeeps | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/revolting_door.gif <- jesus christ | 10:46 |
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| RST38h | that is jesus christ in action indeed | 10:48 |
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| b0unc3 | good morning | 10:56 |
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| qwerty12 | Grr, what is it with Maemo apps requiring two mime_open dbus calls to open a file :( | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | libhildonmime? | 11:02 |
| qwerty12 | Oh, I'd happily use osso_rpc_run if I could (that works) but I need to be able to do it from command line | 11:03 |
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| Myrtti | bwhaha | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | morning Myrtti | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | Myrtti: thank you for inspiring me to make oatmeal :P i forgot how good it tastes | 11:23 |
| Myrtti | oatmeal ♥ | 11:23 |
| Myrtti | which reminds me that I actually have butter now and could make oatmeal with a dollop of it | 11:24 |
| Stskeeps | my fiancee makes it with pumpkin stuff at times too | 11:25 |
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| Myrtti | I usually make it with apple sauce, flaxseed and sugarbeet flakes | 11:25 |
| Stskeeps | flaxseed is such a sci-fi word | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:26 |
| lcuk | mornin qwerty12 \o | 11:26 |
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| Stskeeps | morning GA | 11:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | Howdy | 11:43 |
| GeneralAntilles | OK, itT fails at April Fools | 11:46 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, but some of them were a bit funny :P | 11:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | Not very creative, though. | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | maemo on iphone using vmware is actually plausible somewhat | 11:46 |
| aquatix | except that vmware doesn't run on arm hardware? | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | aquatix: you didn't see the vmware video? | 11:47 |
| aquatix | apparantly not :) | 11:47 |
| Stskeeps | (i'm not pulling your leg on this one) | 11:47 |
| * aquatix should check itt | 11:47 | |
| aquatix | Stskeeps: you have a link? | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-n800-runs-android-in-vmware-video-demo-2635750/ , first video | 11:48 |
| aquatix | thanks | 11:48 |
| Stskeeps | (this is old news, so not aprils fools :P) | 11:49 |
| aquatix | heh, neat | 11:49 |
| aquatix | missed that one | 11:49 |
| aquatix | ick, wince 6.0 on a n800 :P | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:50 |
| Stskeeps | jesus, they claim it's going to jump to 18 C on saturda | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | y | 11:51 |
| qwerty12 | Warm weather in a Nordic country? :O | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | well, denmark can hardly be defined as nordic with the lack of snow we have, but yeah | 11:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:51 |
| qwerty12 | hehe | 11:51 |
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| mgedmin | I saw snow on two separate occasions in Denmark when I stayed there for 5 months! | 11:57 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, we have it but hardly as much as sweden/norway/finland :P | 11:57 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, thanks for looking at Transifex | 12:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | I was wondering what the disadvantage were. | 12:02 |
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| Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: i really had higher hopes for it | 12:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah, don't seem so good. :\ | 12:03 |
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| Stskeeps | looking at bit at Pootle | 12:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | It seems a bit early to be error-finding on newstyle | 12:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | A lot of duplicated reporting effort is going to happen. | 12:06 |
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| GAN800 | Godawful docs on pootle | 12:18 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, transifex isn't much better | 12:18 |
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| GAN800 | I wonder where the en_US l10n for their docs is located. ;) | 12:19 |
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| florian | good morning | 12:21 |
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| yerga | morning | 12:38 |
| X-Fade | morning yerga. | 12:44 |
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| rmt | Hmm.. what evince needs is a way to automatically crop whitespace in PDFs before resizing to the page.. | 13:27 |
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| * lardman wonders what lcuk is ooooo'ing at? | 13:28 | |
| X-Fade | lardman: probably bacon? | 13:30 |
| lardman | mmmm :) | 13:31 |
| lardman | I wonder if the email I just got saying my savings rate was going down, yet again, was an April Fool's joke...? | 13:31 |
| lardman | probably not though | 13:32 |
| qwerty12 | Given the current state of things, I don't think it's in a bank's best interest to joke :) | 13:34 |
| lcuk | lardman, yes, bacon - lots of bacon | 13:37 |
| lcuk | im gonna setup a new economy, based on the bacon standard | 13:37 |
| lcuk | but im not here | 13:37 |
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| lardman | sounds like he's been breathing in too much bacon fumes :) | 13:40 |
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| Macer | good morning | 14:30 |
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| Stskeeps | morning | 14:30 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: going to try to get to the usps tomorrow | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 14:31 |
| Macer | no sd for you tho =) | 14:31 |
| Macer | you dont need the charger? | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | got a couple at home | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | and plenty of sds | 14:31 |
| Macer | ok | 14:32 |
| Macer | i will try to box it today and ship it tomorrow. | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | k | 14:32 |
| Macer | hopefully it makes it there ;) | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | my own N800 was bought from US, so i can't use the warranty, heh | 14:32 |
| Macer | you cant ship it to the nokia in europe? | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | not according to some posts at iTT | 14:33 |
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| Macer | that sucks | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | i would have bought it in .dk but the place i tried, tried to fraud me | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | and the owner sounded like a drug addict when i phoned them | 14:34 |
| Macer | well. this one is in good shape | 14:34 |
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| Macer | no scrolling screen =) | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | had to get my bank to pull back the credit card payment | 14:34 |
| Macer | lol | 14:34 |
| Macer | damn drug addicts | 14:34 |
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| Macer | nexenta is kicking ass as a server | 14:34 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk_homeless: .. homeless? your home lost internet again? :P | 14:35 |
| Macer | still have to set up bind but was too lazy yesterday | 14:35 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm quite happy with it as a file server | 14:35 |
| Macer | yah. i was going to make it a monolithic server | 14:35 |
| Macer | running all the services except the firewall | 14:36 |
| lcuk_homeless | lol Stskeeps yeah shes doin google streetview | 14:36 |
| lcuk_homeless | bein nosey | 14:36 |
| * lcuk_homeless waves at tracy whos on my pooter | 14:36 | |
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| Macer | but 100MB/s ... you cant beat it | 14:37 |
| Macer | raid and gbit are screaming. | 14:37 |
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| aquatix | Macer: :) | 14:40 |
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| * lcuk_homeless stares in wonderment at the 18000 lines of code in liqbase | 14:41 | |
| * lcuk_homeless needs to run same report on the new framework | 14:43 | |
| lcuk_homeless | hopefully there will be less ;) | 14:43 |
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| VDVsx | ah, April fool's day, so many good news around :P | 14:49 |
| aquatix | maps.google.com/cadie | 14:49 |
| aquatix | cadie rules | 14:50 |
| * lcuk_homeless fell for the pirate bay takeover | 14:50 | |
| lcuk_homeless | :| | 14:50 |
| aquatix | nowai | 14:50 |
| aquatix | lcuk_homeless: that one was obvious ;) | 14:50 |
| lcuk_homeless | hell yeah :$ | 14:50 |
| aquatix | also, 13.37 billion or something right? | 14:50 |
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| lcuk_homeless | only for the 30 seconds or so | 14:50 |
| aquatix | or million, whatever | 14:50 |
| aquatix | ghehe | 14:50 |
| lcuk_homeless | yeah yeah, too much goin on to remember what day it was | 14:51 |
| lcuk_homeless | i shouldnt have gotten out of bed | 14:51 |
| VDVsx | In french, but is a good one :P: http://openmoko-fr.org/blog/index.php?post/2009/04/01/iPhone-OS-port%C3%A9-sur-le-Neo-FreeRunner-! | 14:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | It is some kind of wet outside. | 14:52 |
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| lcuk_homeless | i didnt get it directly from piratebay, by the time i got there i knew | 14:56 |
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| VDVsx | lcuk_homeless, the press release is very good too, lol | 14:57 |
| lcuk_homeless | yeah i just saw | 14:58 |
| lcuk_homeless | hopefully a proper one | 14:58 |
| lcuk_homeless | an app for x60 to identify stuffs from pictures | 14:58 |
| lcuk_homeless | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/01/nokia_point_and_find1/ | 14:58 |
| lcuk_homeless | barcoding without the barcodes | 14:59 |
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| Stskeeps | lcuk_homeless: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/squeez-bacon.html?cpg=93H | 15:00 |
| lcuk_homeless | Stskeeps: aint that a ripoff from http://www.baconnaise.com/ | 15:02 |
| Stskeeps | probably | 15:03 |
| * lcuk_homeless pulls that link from favorites | 15:03 | |
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| lcuk_homeless | i suppose those since its in a squeezybottle it would be more useful | 15:03 |
| lcuk_homeless | its a bit tiresome to have to use a spoon to eat it | 15:03 |
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| aquatix | lcuk_homeless: just squeeze it into your mouth? | 15:08 |
| lcuk_homeless | yeah, you think i would waste it on anything else? | 15:09 |
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| lcuk_homeless | serious q: whats the biggest maemo device people anticipate us having/using? does maemo only work in the handheld formfactor or should it be used on desktops and stuff | 15:13 |
| GAN800 | What do you mean by 'Maemo' | 15:14 |
| GAN800 | I mean, it's a little underfeatured for proper desktop usage | 15:15 |
| GAN800 | and all of the advantages Maemo has really become liabilities using it on a desktop. | 15:16 |
| VDVsx | lcuk_homeless, I want maemo in my fridge and toaster :P | 15:16 |
| * VDVsx hide | 15:16 | |
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| lcuk_homeless | kinetic toaster! | 15:16 |
| * aquatix would defenestrate his toaster | 15:16 | |
| lcuk_homeless | VDVsx: thats technically not a bad thought though, a simple touch based ui on the fridge to help manage shopping lists and stock quantities etc would be nice | 15:17 |
| aquatix | force feedback! | 15:17 |
| lcuk_homeless | make it sync with your real handheld | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk_homeless: heh, my plan is to have Shopper on a 770 glued on the fridge, when we move to poland | 15:17 |
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| Stskeeps | :P | 15:17 |
| lcuk_homeless | use barcode scanner as you put stuff in and ouy | 15:17 |
| lcuk_homeless | t | 15:17 |
| lcuk_homeless | :) Stskeeps good | 15:17 |
| lcuk_homeless | as long as the original 770 owner doesnt ask for it back | 15:18 |
| lcuk_homeless | "umm why is there a fridge attached to the back" | 15:18 |
| lcuk_homeless | and why does it contain mouldy food | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | but to answer your question: i'm not sure hildon is so good on traditional netbook stuff, like, without touchscreen | 15:19 |
| lcuk_homeless | i agree and gan is right as well | 15:19 |
| lcuk_homeless | our cutdown interfaces arent reasonably practical yet | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | on something like touchbook though | 15:19 |
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| Stskeeps | which is why i think android on HP netbooks sound insane | 15:19 |
| lcuk_homeless | but the idea of consoles on larger devices is great | 15:19 |
| lcuk_homeless | if you can shutoff the android frontend arent you left with a standard linux though | 15:20 |
| Macer | hm. they dont have an rtorrent port for nexenta | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | lcuk_homeless: busybox linux, heh | 15:20 |
| lcuk_homeless | :D | 15:20 |
| lcuk_homeless | its got root, what more do you want | 15:21 |
| lcuk_homeless | by the way, completely offtopic, could i use one of my crappeh laptops with some variation of linux to act as a proper router | 15:21 |
| lcuk_homeless | so i can make gan happy | 15:22 |
| Macer | lcuk_homeless: just get a wrt | 15:22 |
| Macer | theyre like $20 | 15:22 |
| Macer | =) | 15:22 |
| lcuk_homeless | but i have a craptop here doing nothing $0.00 | 15:22 |
| Macer | true | 15:23 |
| Macer | any linux can be a router =) | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | inz: weird question, but is there a l10n set for osso-xterm? | 15:23 |
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| * lcuk_homeless will consider opening the pursestrings one day, but it takes 5 meetings 27 forms and a note from my mum | 15:23 | |
| lcuk_homeless | actually, im still owed a birthday present | 15:24 |
| lcuk_homeless | :) | 15:24 |
| lcuk_homeless | ill bb later | 15:24 |
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| Stskeeps | there's nothing like a work day where you spend most of it scratching your head and wondering what to write as a TOC for your thesis.. and then realizing the reason why you're horribly unimaginative regarding is that you already did it 6 months ago | 15:28 |
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| Macer | Stskeeps: do you only use nexenta as a fileserver? | 15:31 |
| Stskeeps | fileserver, ssh, screen+irssi, apache server | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | smb | 15:32 |
| Macer | have you tried xen? | 15:32 |
| Stskeeps | it didn't work for me sadly, but if you get it working, do tell me | 15:32 |
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| Macer | ok | 15:34 |
| Macer | xen is like.. vmware isnt it? | 15:34 |
| Macer | just runs virtual machines in opensolaris? | 15:35 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 15:35 |
| Macer | you need x for that? | 15:35 |
| Macer | or does it have a vi type of client? | 15:35 |
| Macer | i will work on it when i get home today | 15:36 |
| Stskeeps | it is command line based | 15:36 |
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| Macer | hm | 15:37 |
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| ElPollo | Xen is paravirtualisation for linux. (not sure about solaris). Since it's paravirtualisation, you'll need to patch your guests. | 15:39 |
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| GAN800 | timeless, what in the world does voting have to do with scheduling a Sprint meeting? | 15:42 |
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| Stskeeps | Macer: http://www.vanjalolz.com/?p=99 | 15:44 |
| Stskeeps | also possible | 15:44 |
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| LoCusF | has anyone built compcache for n8x0? | 15:45 |
| Stskeeps | hmm, no, but i wouldn't mind seeing it | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | be aware we're on a 2.6.21 kernel | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | and not so speedy processor | 15:46 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: now imagine a virtualbox vm with ZFS as backing storage, heh | 15:48 |
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| lcuk | Stskeeps, you could still use it - on the description page it specifically targets embedded devices etc | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | mm | 15:57 |
| lcuk | it must use a low grade compression (like dropping all binary 1s) | 15:57 |
| LoCusF | its lzo | 15:57 |
| lcuk | not so useful for daytoday access, but if you want 2 VMs | 15:58 |
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| lcuk | LoCusF, does that compress better than my algo? | 15:58 |
| _berto_ | we need this in the N8x0 browser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkNxbyp6thM | 15:58 |
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| LoCusF | lcuk: well I don't know your algo :) | 15:58 |
| lcuk | drop the binary 1s, its lossy but you should be able to reconstruct the data by looking at where the gaps are | 15:59 |
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| inz | Stskeeps, it's not really my responsibility anymore, but at least when it was, there was no l10n support | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | alright | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: virtualbox works for me :) | 16:14 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/04/01/nokia-verizon-superman-phone-to-feature-new-nokia-linux-os-snapdragon-cpu-and-more/ <- dear god | 16:32 |
| Stskeeps | even if this is a a april fools joke, the ui is kinda weird :P | 16:33 |
| Macer | i need to read up on xen | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: virtualbox seems to run just fine too | 16:34 |
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| Jaffa | Stskeep: it is an April fool: see the link for "Superman Prevails" (which a) isn't the next Superman film (it's "The Man of Steel" and b) isn't part of a triolgy | 16:35 |
| Myrtti | Stskeeps: :-O | 16:35 |
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| Stskeeps | Jaffa: hehe, yeah | 16:35 |
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| Stskeeps | the concept ui however ;p | 16:36 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, ah symbian os in the phone, poorly credible , lolol | 16:36 |
| lcuk | Stskeeps, in "Lexx" there was a pair of planets similar i think, that look pretty though, certainly eyecandy to get you interested whether or not its practical | 16:36 |
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| Stskeeps | combine with map stuff ;P | 16:36 |
| Stskeeps | you can call your friends if you can find them on this 3d rendering! | 16:36 |
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| lcuk | its very wasteful of space though unfortunately, certainly good to see alternatives to lists and grids | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | btw wasn't last.fm supposed to have cut off my country today? :P | 16:37 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: in nexenta? | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: yup | 16:37 |
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| Macer | ive never used vbox | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | it's decent | 16:38 |
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| lcuk | its not cutoff, itsj ust started automatically billingyour credit card, with the usage from EWVERY user in your country | 16:38 |
| Macer | just another vmware wannabe? | 16:38 |
| lcuk | -typos | 16:38 |
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| Stskeeps | Macer: i actually like virtualbox over vmware | 16:38 |
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| Macer | so isnt that what you wanted? | 16:40 |
| Macer | virtualization? | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | so i'm happy | 16:40 |
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| Macer | oh | 16:42 |
| Macer | xen is a hypervisor like esx | 16:42 |
| Macer | screw that :) | 16:42 |
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| Macer | Stskeeps: you have information on installing vbox in nexenta? | 16:45 |
| Macer | or is it just a download install run thing? | 16:45 |
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| Stskeeps | download http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/2.1.4/VirtualBox-2.1.4-42893-SunOS.tar.gz , untar it, cp /usr/sun/bin/pkgadm /usr/bin | 16:45 |
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| Stskeeps | SUN_PERSONALITY=1 pfexec /usr/sun/sbin/pkgadd -G -d VirtualBoxKern-2.1.4-SunOS-r42893.pkg | 16:46 |
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| Stskeeps | and SUN_PERSONALITY=1 pfexec /usr/sun/sbin/pkgadd -G -d VirtualBox-2.1.4-SunOS-r42893.pkg | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | and bam, it's there :P | 16:46 |
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| Macer | that easy? | 16:49 |
| Macer | does it require X? | 16:49 |
| Macer | ive never used it | 16:49 |
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| Macer | it supports vmware vdisks. wow | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | it can export display over RDP | 16:50 |
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| LoCusF | vmware disk support means maemo sdk support :) | 16:52 |
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| LoCusF | http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ <- I mean this | 16:53 |
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| LoCusF | gotta try to compile compcache today | 16:58 |
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| Macer_ | going to try to install virtualbox | 17:28 |
| Macer_ | will be awesome if it works | 17:28 |
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| lopz | hola | 17:33 |
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| Macer_ | Stskeeps: you need X for vbox? | 17:34 |
| Macer_ | it liiks like vmware workstation | 17:35 |
| Macer_ | oh. you said it exports display over rdp | 17:35 |
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| Macer_ | well. i downloaded it.. im installing it now | 17:36 |
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| Macer_ | wtf | 17:44 |
| Macer_ | ld.so.1: pkgadd: fatal: libssl.so.0.9.7: open failed: No such file or directory | 17:44 |
| Macer_ | i have libssl.so.0.9.8 | 17:44 |
| Macer_ | how lame | 17:44 |
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| wazd | hello world | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | hello wazd | 17:48 |
| wazd | Why not everybody discussing new Nokia tablet? | 17:49 |
| Macer | ugh.. i cant downgrade with aptitude? | 17:49 |
| wazd | haven't seen the announcement? | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | which one of the many april fools jokes? ;) | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: i think i might have an earlier version than you | 17:50 |
| wazd | I'm getting old :( | 17:50 |
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| RST38h | moo wazd | 17:50 |
| RST38h | wazd: where have we stopped last time? | 17:50 |
| wazd | RST38h: hey, I asked you if you can draw simple layout in paint, to show where buttons should be | 17:51 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: i need to figure out how to fix this | 17:52 |
| Macer | i cant install vbox | 17:52 |
| RST38h | wazd: Ah, that is simple, a moment | 17:52 |
| Macer | because my libssl is too new? =) what kind of shit is that? | 17:52 |
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| Jaffa | wazd: Too busy keeping track of the riot 300m away from me outside the Bank of England, and the peaceful protest 100m at Climate Camp | 17:53 |
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| LoCusF | Macer: ln -s /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 | 17:54 |
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| Macer | LoCusF: thats what im doing now | 17:55 |
| Macer | how ghetto | 17:55 |
| RST38h | wazd: to what email should I send it? | 17:56 |
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| wazd | RST38h: drew.zhilin@gmail.com | 17:56 |
| RST38h | No "an"? | 17:56 |
| wazd | RST38h: yes :) | 17:57 |
| wazd | RST38h: an was busy ( | 17:57 |
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| RST38h | wazd: emailed! | 17:58 |
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| wazd | RST38h: jeez))) | 17:59 |
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| RST38h | yes, I know =) | 18:00 |
| RST38h | the touchpad is not the best drawing tool | 18:00 |
| Macer | Installation of <SUNWvbox> was successful. | 18:01 |
| Macer | neat | 18:01 |
| Macer | will try to use it when i get home | 18:01 |
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| VDVsx | Stskeeps, I want this on Mer: http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/03/introducing-google-brain-search-for.html :P | 18:33 |
| Stskeeps | Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:34 PM ? ;) | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | but yes, i really would want that :P | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | when there is feasible and tested brain implants for information lookup, i'm in. | 18:35 |
| VDVsx | lol | 18:35 |
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| aquatix | qwerty12: no worries, scanning another's brain isn't allowed | 18:38 |
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| aquatix | ciao | 18:39 |
| * qwerty12 burns it | 18:39 | |
| qwerty12 | :) | 18:39 |
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| ShadowJK | hm, my N800 has marginally better headphone output than my N810 | 18:45 |
| mgedmin | my sennheiser headphones have noticeably louder output than my N810's bundled ones | 18:46 |
| ShadowJK | yes | 18:46 |
| mgedmin | but a shorter plug | 18:46 |
| Pavlov | the N810 comes with headphones? | 18:46 |
| ShadowJK | Pavlov, yes | 18:46 |
| mgedmin | it comes with a headset actually | 18:46 |
| mgedmin | with a builtin mic and a button | 18:46 |
| Pavlov | i don't think i've ever actually plugged in headphones to my n810 | 18:47 |
| Pavlov | (s) | 18:47 |
| ShadowJK | the ones that came with my N810 are still in the plastic bag unopened i think | 18:47 |
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| mgedmin | that is the right place for them :-) | 18:47 |
| ShadowJK | To make the volume not kill my eardrums, I have to move the slider to 0, than tap + once | 18:47 |
| mgedmin | whoa | 18:47 |
| mgedmin | my music is usually too silent | 18:48 |
| mgedmin | especially if you're listening to something on a bus | 18:48 |
| ShadowJK | There's quite alot of noise in the output, like, when playing silence the noise through headphones is louder than the noise of my quad core computer :P | 18:48 |
| ShadowJK | I really hope they'll improve the headphone output for "N900" :) | 18:48 |
| mgedmin | the n900 will probably have 3d sound | 18:49 |
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| ShadowJK | hey this is funny, embedded in the noise is also electrical noise from the touchscreen | 18:49 |
| ShadowJK | Like, I tap on the volume control to keep the audio output active, and then there's a square-wave type noise underneath the white noise when I move stylus on screen | 18:50 |
| ShadowJK | doesn't seem like the CPU is leaking through any noise though | 18:51 |
| ShadowJK | no touchscreen leakage on my N810 | 18:53 |
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| ShadowJK | The background noise is maybe 3dB louder and more brownish though | 18:54 |
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| * RST38h knows for sure that n900 will use perforated tape for the swap | 19:07 | |
| RST38h | wazd: was that ..mmmm.... sketch sufficient? =) | 19:07 |
| RST38h | Actually, tape makes perfect sense: it is cheap, abundant (just slice toilet paper rolls), has got that highly sought 60s feel, has unlimited capacity (just glue some more tape and you are done) | 19:10 |
| RST38h | + you will have the complete backup of your system state for any point in time - how many current devices can boast that? I BET even mighty Palm Pre can't do that with its HTML OS! | 19:11 |
| mgedmin | ah, but I bet it wears as badly as flash memory | 19:11 |
| RST38h | Only if you use it improperly | 19:12 |
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| riot | hiya | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | wello | 19:12 |
| lizardo | hi all, Is X-Fade the only guy with permissions to fix autobuilder problems ? | 19:12 |
| riot | is there any good n810-compatible mount for bikes? | 19:12 |
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| qwerty12 | lizardo, libobd? I think the autobuilder is fine but your version number not | 19:14 |
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| lizardo | qwerty12: the package is not mine :) but it entered in a infinite loop I think | 19:14 |
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| qwerty12 | ah :) | 19:15 |
| qwerty12 | Well, having had that experience recently... :) | 19:15 |
| lizardo | qwerty12: that is the autobuilder chokes on it but keep selecting it ... :( | 19:15 |
| lizardo | I think some "try: ... except: [remove package from queue] " is missing on the autobuilder code ;) | 19:16 |
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| wazd | RST38h: yep, totally) | 19:21 |
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| lizardo | qwerty12: now libobd "infected" builder1 ... that remembers me of that Apr 1st windows virus hehe | 19:25 |
| qwerty12 | Lol, poor builder, it's had a tough time recently :P | 19:25 |
| qwerty12 | chinook builds still seem to be working though :) | 19:26 |
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| lizardo | qwerty12: not for long, now it only remains builder3 active, soon it will select the libobd package too... | 19:27 |
| qwerty12 | heh :/ | 19:28 |
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| sampo | hey | 19:31 |
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| Stskeeps | wello | 19:31 |
| sampo | link on this page to maemo 5 api references still points to a pre alpha api documentation... someone could fix it to point to alpha api references page | 19:31 |
| sampo | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/apis/ | 19:31 |
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| wazd | RST38h: something like this? http://s54.radikal.ru/i143/0904/81/81da46196eb8.png | 19:34 |
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| Stskeeps | wazd: omgifone | 19:36 |
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| wazd | Stskeeps: well, that was the goal I suppose) | 19:38 |
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| VDVsx | sampo, fill a bug report about that issue | 19:39 |
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| sampo | VDVsx: will do | 19:41 |
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| lcuk | "<mgedmin> the n900 will probably have 3d sound" < marius? | 20:02 |
| mgedmin | yes? | 20:02 |
| * mgedmin wonders if lcuk has a calendar somewhere in the room | 20:02 | |
| lcuk | is that a "the n900 will have kitchen sink" kinda posting, or practical and in the stack? | 20:02 |
| lcuk | i do actually | 20:03 |
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| mgedmin | more of a "the UI is 3D, therefore it should have spatial sound effects" | 20:04 |
| mgedmin | * plug in your 5.2 speakers into the headhone jack for full experience | 20:04 |
| mgedmin | (not included in the box) | 20:04 |
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| RST38h | wazd: Yea, that is it | 20:05 |
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| RST38h | wazd: I do think that we can place an app name and credits at the empty space | 20:06 |
| lcuk | mgedmin, the ding comes from the far left if thats where the UI element is placed kinda idea? | 20:06 |
| lcuk | i have to go, but thats intruiging | 20:06 |
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| * mgedmin thinks it's a *great* april 1st idea | 20:07 | |
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| RST38h | mgedmin: Have you already come up with 5.2 headphones? | 20:10 |
| ShadowJK | maybe it'll have enough CPU to run mplayer -af hrtf | 20:10 |
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| wazd | RST38h: what should I write in credits? | 20:28 |
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| wazd | I have 5.1 headphones, but they have 3 jacks :) | 20:29 |
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| thopiekar | hi | 20:37 |
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| wazd | thopiekar: hey | 20:40 |
| thopiekar | wazd: hi :D | 20:40 |
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| wazd | RST38h: http://s56.radikal.ru/i154/0904/da/b30097778749.png <- well, most obvious text :) | 20:40 |
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| thopiekar | aaah wazd i'm using TI-emu at school but I have no clue how to use it.. these funktions like making a funktion of 3 points and so on.. | 20:42 |
| RST38h | wazd: Actually, I have one suggestion :) | 20:43 |
| wazd | RST38h: hm? | 20:43 |
| RST38h | wazd: Let's remove nicknames (a few aging snobs like I am slowly becoming may consider them childish) BUT insert URLs instead =) | 20:44 |
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| ShadowJK | hm | 20:45 |
| wazd | RST38h: ah, ok) | 20:45 |
| ShadowJK | my newly acquired used N800 has been bitching about low battery now for about 3 hours | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, they're crybabies like that | 20:45 |
| wazd | RST38h: I thought nicks would be ok for finding us on forums'n'stuff | 20:45 |
| ShadowJK | I hope when it eventually dies batmon/bme/whatever has revised values | 20:45 |
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| Stskeeps | wb GA | 20:46 |
| ShadowJK | Looking at ftd-bme, there's significantly higher voltage drop under load than with my N810, though N810's battery is just a year old or so.. dunno about this N800... yet, bme on N800 thinks the battery there has lower impedance, weird | 20:46 |
| ShadowJK | lower than on N810, that is | 20:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | Long and rainy drive | 20:47 |
| RST38h | wazd: You do not want people find you in the forums, you want them find your web page :) | 20:48 |
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| ShadowJK | ah now it shutdown | 20:50 |
| RST38h | wazd: Mine is http://fms.komkon.org/ | 20:51 |
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| wazd | RST38h: orly :) | 20:51 |
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| * GeneralAntilles sighs at itT | 20:56 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Where did we go so wrong. | 20:56 |
| lfelipe | GeneralAntilles: when the canola specific forum was merged into the multimedia one ? | 20:56 |
| lfelipe | :PP | 20:56 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I guess I shouldn't be surprised that so many "involved" people never step foot outside of itT, but so it goes. | 20:58 |
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| Stskeeps | well i guess it's the difficulty of the fact it wasn't really a community that started from scratch and had some tangible product that they worked on, which allowed contributions by strangers, etc.. i dunno | 21:01 |
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| Stskeeps | that's what i hope the maemo community will turn into though | 21:02 |
| * RST38h politely reminds concerned persons that one should not expect "people" to behave exactly as one wants them to behave | 21:04 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Goddamn a 15" laptop is huge after you've spent the better part of a month using an 9" one | 21:04 |
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| GeneralAntilles | RST38h, clearly. | 21:04 |
| * RST38h adds that trying to coerce people into a certain behavioral model usually leads one to ruin | 21:04 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Who's coercing? | 21:04 |
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| RST38h | So, don't sigh at iTT, find a way to use the iTT the way it is | 21:05 |
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| mikkov_ | X-Fade around? | 21:06 |
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| RST38h | General: Nobody does, just making a general comment based on my previous experience | 21:08 |
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| wazd | RST38h: http://i057.radikal.ru/0904/0f/84ea65b8f955.png | 21:09 |
| RST38h | Now, could some bright linux mind enlighten a lesser light like myself on how to TURN OF THE FUCKING FB CURSOR before the kernel boot logo is shown? | 21:10 |
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| RST38h | wazd: Yep, that is it, perfect! | 21:10 |
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| RST38h | wazd: Integrating into the package. | 21:10 |
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| wazd | now I need to fix faceplates | 21:11 |
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| RST38h | wazd: one to create (thankfully, it is similar to ti83 in overall shape) and one to fix | 21:12 |
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| RST38h | ...and I think there is a slight problem of a calculator "completing" shutdown when you switch to it, if it was previously quit via shut-down key sequency | 21:13 |
| RST38h | but I will let users sort this out and release an update later :) | 21:13 |
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| Macer | well | 21:25 |
| Macer | just waiting to go home and try this damn vbox | 21:26 |
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| sampo | im trying to build my app in fremantle sdk but i keep getting "error: redeclaration of enumerator" errors... what could cause this? is it the newer GCC ? | 21:31 |
| Stskeeps | possible | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | gcc4 is a little bitchy compared to gcc | 21:32 |
| Stskeeps | 3 | 21:32 |
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| sampo | Stskeeps: should i set some "stop bitching" flag ? | 21:33 |
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| Stskeeps | sampo: don't redeclare enumerators :P | 21:33 |
| sampo | Stskeeps: :) | 21:34 |
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| sampo | Stskeeps: hehe there actually was a typo in code... i never got that error in diablo | 21:37 |
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| * RST38h solved the problem by disabling FBCON driver | 21:44 | |
| RST38h | [satisfied] KILL. | 21:44 |
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| tds5016 | hello all. How would I install this? http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/vpnc-gui/ it looks like it just uses a repo... | 21:50 |
| tds5016 | but how do I add the repo on maemo | 21:50 |
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| tank-man | just click the link that says click here to install on your device | 21:51 |
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| tds5016 | yeah, it sends me this: http://scriptkiller.de/pub/maemo/ports/chinook/vpnc-gui.install | 21:52 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 21:52 |
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| tank-man | yea so did it work? | 21:52 |
| zakkm | tds5016: click that.. on the tablet browser | 21:52 |
| tds5016 | oh.... | 21:53 |
| zakkm | not on a destkop/laptop | 21:53 |
| tds5016 | 'bout that... | 21:53 |
| tds5016 | I don't have a connection, because I need the client first. | 21:53 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 21:53 |
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| zakkm | it will open up application manager, add the repo , and install whatever package you wanted | 21:53 |
| tds5016 | can I add the repo by hand? | 21:53 |
| zakkm | yes | 21:53 |
| tds5016 | for the record... because I'm going to need to do that shortly. | 21:53 |
| tds5016 | how would I go about doing that? | 21:53 |
| zakkm | uhh application manger on the tablet | 21:54 |
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| zakkm | menu - tools - application catalogue | 21:54 |
| zakkm | add | 21:54 |
| zakkm | words may be wrong, let me get my tablet | 21:54 |
| zakkm | tds5016: do you know the repository info? | 21:55 |
| tds5016 | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-lob800-2.html | 21:55 |
| tds5016 | that's what I'm working off of. | 21:55 |
| tds5016 | I need gst-launch | 21:56 |
| zakkm | that confused me ;p | 21:56 |
| zakkm | thought you were trying to install vpnc-gui? | 21:56 |
| tds5016 | I do need that. | 21:56 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 21:56 |
| tds5016 | I was asking as an aside. it looks like I can actually just install it from the cli. | 21:57 |
| tds5016 | sorry about that. | 21:57 |
| tds5016 | but yeah, I need to install the vpnc gui first :-) | 21:57 |
| zakkm | believe its actually in maemo extras / extras-devel | 21:57 |
| tds5016 | http://scriptkiller.de/pub/maemo/ports/chinook/vpnc-gui.install it looks like it's in extras | 21:58 |
| tds5016 | extras, non-free | 21:58 |
| zakkm | so can you just apt-get install vpnc-gui | 21:58 |
| zakkm | if not, we will add that repo | 21:58 |
| tds5016 | awesome. I need to go find an internet connection somewhere. | 21:58 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 21:58 |
| zakkm | dont have one where you are? | 21:59 |
| zakkm | can you bluetooth/usb network? | 21:59 |
| tds5016 | I have bluetooth to a mac. | 21:59 |
| zakkm | sweet im on mac too :D | 21:59 |
| tds5016 | awesome! how would I get the connection to run from that? | 22:00 |
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| zakkm | hah i think you'd need a maemo package | 22:00 |
| zakkm | better yet, get the vpnc deb's . | 22:00 |
| tds5016 | actually, nvm. the university flips shit when you add stuff to their network like that anyhow. haha. | 22:00 |
| tds5016 | I'll just go get a connection from starbucks or something liek that. haha | 22:01 |
| zakkm | you'd need admin privileges on mac. | 22:01 |
| zakkm | to share ethernet to bluetooth device | 22:01 |
| tds5016 | I have admin :-) | 22:01 |
| zakkm | what uni is this? curious | 22:01 |
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| zakkm | or country rather | 22:02 |
| tds5016 | US. | 22:02 |
| tds5016 | I got to PSU | 22:02 |
| zakkm | ah | 22:02 |
| tds5016 | go to* | 22:02 |
| zakkm | pennstate? | 22:02 |
| tds5016 | yeah. | 22:02 |
| zakkm | i know someone there heh | 22:02 |
| zakkm | newyork is it? | 22:02 |
| zakkm | no wait | 22:02 |
| zakkm | pennsylvania -.- | 22:02 |
| tds5016 | no, The Pennsylvania State University | 22:03 |
| tds5016 | :-) | 22:03 |
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| zakkm | a friends brother goes there | 22:03 |
| tds5016 | good guess ;-) | 22:03 |
| zakkm | live in Toronto, Canada myself. | 22:03 |
| zakkm | i got psu acrnoym right ;p | 22:03 |
| tds5016 | oh, very nice. too cold up there. haha, moving to San Jose, CA in september. | 22:03 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 22:03 |
| tds5016 | going to the "real world" as it were. | 22:04 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 22:04 |
| zakkm | its not bad.. its 10c otuside right now | 22:04 |
| tds5016 | still go maple leafs :-) | 22:04 |
| zakkm | eww ;p | 22:04 |
| zakkm | dislike hockey | 22:04 |
| tds5016 | I'm from the US... I don't do Celcius... no offense. | 22:04 |
| tds5016 | haha, me either. I assumed since u were canadian.. haha. | 22:04 |
| zakkm | uhh | 22:04 |
| zakkm | 40 F? | 22:04 |
| tds5016 | that's still chilly. haha. | 22:05 |
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| zakkm | C * 1.9 + 32 = F | 22:05 |
| tds5016 | yeah, something like that. haha, Celcius is the smarter way to deal with temperature, I've just no bearings with it. | 22:07 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 22:07 |
| zakkm | :D | 22:07 |
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| LoCusF | reporting about compcache, it works 100% in n810 | 22:12 |
| Stskeeps | sounds good | 22:12 |
| Stskeeps | is it a kernel module or? | 22:12 |
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| LoCusF | yeah a module | 22:13 |
| Stskeeps | on 2.6.21? | 22:13 |
| LoCusF | yup | 22:14 |
| Stskeeps | k | 22:14 |
| Stskeeps | much interested in seeing a patch | 22:14 |
| qwerty12_N800 | it worked? i built it for astorm & he said his tablet would reboot sometimes | 22:15 |
| GAN800 | Hmm, I'm not loving Evolution. Anybody have any better suggestions? | 22:16 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | modest? | 22:17 |
| GAN800 | For the netbook | 22:17 |
| Stskeeps | GAN800: at least it seems like the localization thread is actually working | 22:17 |
| Stskeeps | we're getting a lot of constructive input | 22:17 |
| RST38h | GAN: PINE | 22:17 |
| qwerty12_N800 | I don't think I can be taken as serious when I suggest modest :) | 22:18 |
| zakkm | whats compcache? | 22:18 |
| RST38h | you may get linched for that | 22:18 |
| Stskeeps | GAN800: claws? | 22:18 |
| GAN800 | We _always_ take you seriously, qwerty12, so watch what you say. | 22:18 |
| Stskeeps | 'This turned out to be a life saver during a Aymara translation sprint in Bolivia, where someone volunteered to collect all the translated PO files, drive to the nearest place with an internet connection, and upload them.' | 22:18 |
| qwerty12_N800 | lol | 22:18 |
| Stskeeps | i think this is possible the best quote ever uttered on iTT | 22:19 |
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| RST38h | Obama presented Elizabeth II with an iPod containing video from her 2007 visit to the States. In return, the first family received what is apparently a standard present for visiting dignitaries to the Palace -- a silver-framed photo of the Queen and her husband. | 22:19 |
| RST38h | Will finnish prez give her a tablet? | 22:19 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: and obama gave gordon brown US-region DVDs, afaik | 22:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:20 |
| qwerty12_N800 | That's alright, everyone sets their region to 0 ;) | 22:20 |
| RST38h | Sts: I am sure good old Gordon knows the magic button sequence on his remote... | 22:20 |
| zakkm | im sure someone would be able to do it for him. | 22:21 |
| RST38h | Or maybe he is just using a $20 Chinese DVD player that has all this crap disabled by default | 22:22 |
| zakkm | divx dvd player no doubt :D | 22:22 |
| Stskeeps | ~seen b-man | 22:22 |
| LoCusF | qwerty12_N800: yeah my tablet just rebooted :E | 22:22 |
| infobot | b-man is currently on #kde (1h 49m 12s), last said: 'Anyone suggest a good programming ide for KDE?'. | 22:22 |
| suihkulokki | RST38h: we finns should give her the same present we gave Gorbatshov: http://www.relaflex.fi/tlnmuseo/mkoivistomgorbatsov2069.html | 22:23 |
| Stskeeps | ah, someone else | 22:23 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | LoCusF: lol :/ | 22:23 |
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| RST38h | suih: Not EXACTLY the same one, I hope? =) | 22:23 |
| qwerty12_N800 | RST38h: maybe he binned them and grabbed the rips off bittorrent =) | 22:23 |
| RST38h | Sts: Any idea how I can disable fbon soft cursor without trashing the whole fbcon from the kernel? | 22:24 |
| RST38h | qwerty: Or maybe he had those rips all the time... | 22:24 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: err.. i guess there would be a kernel option for it | 22:24 |
| qwerty12_N800 | lol | 22:24 |
| RST38h | Sts: I can't see one | 22:24 |
| RST38h | there is a file in /sys that controls that, but it is secondary, can't be operated when the kernel just boots | 22:25 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: since there's a softcursor.ko i would assume it would be possible to disable | 22:25 |
| RST38h | ah | 22:25 |
| RST38h | in the ea linux I have, it seems to be a part of fbcon | 22:26 |
| GAN800 | E71x or wait to see what comes of an E55 or summuch? | 22:26 |
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| * RST38h would wait, E71-like devices are kinda crammed | 22:27 | |
| [A2K] | hello. i have a problem with dosbox. i use this http://pupnik.de/chinook/dosbox_0.72-0.2_armel.deb package. i have a simple calculator for dos, when i run it in dosbox on my pc, everything works good, but when i run it on n810, it shows me wrong numbers. | 22:28 |
| RST38h | You can't bit E71 in terms of looks though, it is small and shiny | 22:28 |
| GAN800 | Only thing I'm worried about is it's likely that we wont see another new Symbian handset on AT&T until late Fall | 22:28 |
| RST38h | Just buy one unsubsidized already... | 22:29 |
| [A2K] | looks like dosbox on maemo does not allow negative float-point numbers | 22:29 |
| LoCusF | qwerty12_N800: it would have been really cool if it would have worked | 22:29 |
| Stskeeps | "So, comparing the files on the N800 with the N810 for the FM app revealed 2 files that apparently don't get copied on the 810 when you install the app. I copied those 2 files over and the FM radio is working great now on the N810." | 22:29 |
| Stskeeps | wtf | 22:29 |
| Stskeeps | this can only be an aprils fools | 22:29 |
| RST38h | E55 will be way easier to type on, but it will also look like a cheap version of E51, judging from photos | 22:30 |
| qwerty12_N800 | LoCusF: yeah, AStorm was saying it did speedup his tablet :( | 22:30 |
| GAN800 | RST38h, no cash | 22:30 |
| GAN800 | RST38h, fewer keys is easier? Sounds counterintuitive | 22:31 |
| RST38h | GAN: E55 keys are bigger and it has got the full QWERTY set | 22:31 |
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| GAN800 | I don't do so well with T9 as-is | 22:31 |
| Stskeeps | evening timeless | 22:32 |
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| timelE61i | nOt a good one | 22:32 |
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| timelE61i | I left to get dinner, but left my keys inside | 22:32 |
| RST38h | E55 has N810-like keyboard, no T9 required | 22:32 |
| RST38h | BUT, you need both hands to type on E55, E71 only needs one hand | 22:32 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i'm deadly paranoid regarding my keys, especially since my gf is abroad and she has the other key pair, heh | 22:32 |
| GAN800 | RST38h, point is, I don't love multiple characters on single keys. | 22:33 |
| timelE61i | my other pair expires at 10p, and i waited 30mins and gave up | 22:33 |
| RST38h | Sts: They will stalk her, take the keys, cross several borders, invade your home, bring goats, swine, farm equipment, and make a fire. | 22:33 |
| VDVsx | GAN800, wait for the n97 :) | 22:34 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: i have a nice green field for goats and swine. | 22:34 |
| * Stskeeps tries to locate pic | 22:34 | |
| RST38h | GAN: Agree here. But it will probably not be your biggest problem with the keyboard. | 22:34 |
| RST38h | N810 always attempts to turn over and fall when I type, E55 will probably do the same. | 22:35 |
| GAN800 | VDVsx and pay $700 for lots of duplicated functionality with my RX-51. Not likely. | 22:35 |
| RST38h | E71 does not have this problem but the keys are tiny. | 22:35 |
| RST38h | And these @&^#&*@^ from Nokia seem to have scrapped the successor to E70 which was *perfect* keyboard wise | 22:36 |
| GAN800 | RST38h, I've used my dad's Moto Q a bit and don't have trouble with those keys. | 22:36 |
| VDVsx | GAN800, so you should buy a non-qwerty phone, IMO | 22:36 |
| * RST38h once again pleads to the Tentacled One to teach 'em, those engineers... | 22:36 | |
| GAN800 | Mostly it's going to come down to hoe gadget deprived I am. | 22:36 |
| RST38h | GAN: Then go with E71 by all means | 22:36 |
| timelE61i | gan: when | 22:36 |
| GAN800 | s/hoe/how/ | 22:37 |
| infobot | GAN800 meant: Mostly it's going to come down to how gadget deprived I am. | 22:37 |
| timelE61i | E71 is slightly narrower than e61i, but twice as fast | 22:37 |
| GAN800 | timelE61i, considering E71x | 22:37 |
| RST38h | GAN: Because you will most likely hate E55 keyboard | 22:37 |
| timelE61i | X? | 22:37 |
| GAN800 | AT&T branded with newer Symbian release. | 22:38 |
| GAN800 | Announced recently | 22:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/30/atandt-pulls-trigger-on-nokia-e71x-and-samsung-propel-pro/ | 22:39 |
| Stskeeps | RST38h: http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/myview.jpg , plenty of space for goats :P (ignore the car standing on the freaking grass..) | 22:39 |
| timelE61i | black, white, or gray? | 22:39 |
| GAN800 | Black | 22:39 |
| GAN800 | That's some green grass | 22:40 |
| * GAN800 is in the middle of a drought. | 22:40 | |
| Stskeeps | GAN800: not how it looks currently.. i think | 22:40 |
| * Stskeeps doesn't open curtains often. | 22:41 | |
| GAN800 | With that view? | 22:44 |
| timelE61i | Gan: it looks like you lost parens and punctuation in that model | 22:44 |
| timelE61i | Am i right? | 22:44 |
| GAN800 | timelE61i, keyboard-wise? Compared to? (I don't really know) | 22:45 |
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| GAN800 | I was planning on trying it at an AT&T store before deciding anything. | 22:45 |
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| * VDVsx needs to choose a phone too (with good accelerometer's for his thesis work) :P | 22:47 | |
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| usicow | does anyone know what 'normal' transfer speeds should be over usb to an n810? I only get 1.2MB per second.. and deleting 300MB took about 10 minutes.. | 22:50 |
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| GAN800 | VDVsx, 5800? Why not the RX-51/71 for the accelerometers, though? | 22:53 |
| zakkm | usicow: are you sure your on usb 2.0 ? | 22:53 |
| zakkm | not 1.1? | 22:53 |
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| zakkm | 1.1 maxes out at 1.2 i believe | 22:53 |
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| usicow | hmm | 22:53 |
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| zakkm | 1.1 usb maxes out at 1.2mb/s i believe.. and usb 2.0 maxes out at 480 | 22:54 |
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| usicow | I'm on this annoying vista laptop.. I'm not sure how I can tell if its 2.0 or 1.1.. I know the laptop is capable of 2.0.. its only a year old. | 22:54 |
| qwerty12_N800 | I get 3.2 on a slow class 2. but this is with 48mhz kernel & cpufreq in performance | 22:54 |
| qwerty12_N800 | xp at least tells you when you put a 2.0 device in a 1.1 port | 22:55 |
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| zakkm | its just a guess..:D | 22:55 |
| VDVsx | GAN800, 5800 is one of the options, about the rx-71 dunno if I can delay my work so much | 22:55 |
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| GAN800 | zakkm, 480Mbps not MB/sec. You're not factoring in overhead, though, either. | 22:55 |
| zakkm | i know but usicow got 1.2mb/s transferring, so i was saying it might be attached to a 1.1 port | 22:56 |
| GAN800 | VDVsx, well, N97 is already June at the earliest, so. . . . :p | 22:56 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: you around? | 22:56 |
| zakkm | qwerty12_N800: does 48mhz kernel help performance wise? | 22:56 |
| zakkm | booting off SD | 22:56 |
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| usicow | hmm.. so I should be able to get 3.2 MB/s? | 22:57 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: sortof | 22:57 |
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| zakkm | usicow: you should be able to get as far as your SD card could take | 22:57 |
| qwerty12_N800 | zakkm: I think so but people have reported problems when using (dmesg would list i/o errors with a shit 1gb) | 22:57 |
| qwerty12_N800 | s/using/using it/ | 22:58 |
| infobot | qwerty12_N800 meant: zakkm: I think so but people have reported problems when using it (dmesg would list i/o errors with a shit 1gb) | 22:58 |
| zakkm | i got a a-data 4gb sdhc | 22:58 |
| Macer | Stskeeps: how did you get this to actually run? | 22:58 |
| Macer | i am getting a ton of lib errors | 22:58 |
| usicow | zakkm: should I be seeing the CPU on the n810 maxing out when copying files over USB? | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: what do you try to run? i use VBox* commands | 22:59 |
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| Macer | that is what i am trying now | 22:59 |
| zakkm | usicow: no idea, not a expert.. i just saw 1.2 and thinking that was the usb 1.1 max speed | 22:59 |
| Macer | VBoxManage "libstdc++.so.6 open failed: No such file or directory | 22:59 |
| Macer | and i just installed it | 22:59 |
| zakkm | but probalby not | 22:59 |
| usicow | hmm | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: ok, maybe you have a later version than me | 22:59 |
| zakkm | nokia should be able to handle the cpu of transferring quite easily i would think | 22:59 |
| Macer | later version than what? :) | 23:00 |
| Macer | or maybe ldconfig is jacked up and it's not reading the libs correctly? | 23:00 |
| Stskeeps | dunno | 23:00 |
| Macer | hm.. how does nexenta read the lib dirs? | 23:01 |
| Macer | is there an ld.so.conf somewhere or something? | 23:01 |
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| Stskeeps | dunno, - anyhow, im gonna crash and watch something | 23:01 |
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| GeneralAntilles | usicow, yes, you should. | 23:02 |
| VDVsx | GAN800, I have to inspect accelerometer specs first (If I can find it) :P | 23:02 |
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| GeneralAntilles | USB transfers aren't fast | 23:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | VDVsx, on? | 23:02 |
| VDVsx | n97 | 23:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | and what's necessary in the specs? | 23:02 |
| VDVsx | mainly the accelerometer type | 23:03 |
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| GeneralAntilles | As in, how many axes, sensitivity, what? | 23:04 |
| VDVsx | yes, sensitivity is very important | 23:04 |
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| Garfeild | hi all | 23:05 |
| Garfeild | is there any developers for maemo? | 23:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | There are lots of them. | 23:05 |
| Garfeild | oh, great | 23:05 |
| Garfeild | what do i need to install to SDK 4.1 to create working analog of real Maemo device? | 23:06 |
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| GeneralAntilles | You need a real Maemo device. | 23:06 |
| Stskeeps | Garfeild: you can only get a simulation, not an emulation | 23:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | There are non-free bits in there that are only licensed to real device owners. | 23:07 |
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| GeneralAntilles | hrw has done some work on qemu emulation of something resembling a real device, but it's involved to setup and requires, well, a real device. | 23:07 |
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| Garfeild | hm...and what about software? I want to look how working some standart application on Maemo, for example contacts... | 23:08 |
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| florian | re | 23:10 |
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| Garfeild | florian: re | 23:11 |
| Garfeild | florian: i think, you need for me) | 23:12 |
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| Garfeild | i'm about Contacts import/export project for gsoc | 23:12 |
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| florian | hi Garfeild | 23:14 |
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| Garfeild | florian: i have installed sdk to my laptop, i have tested it for some applications and i have question | 23:15 |
| Garfeild | florian: how can i see how work standart software on sdk? | 23:15 |
| Garfeild | or it's impossible? | 23:15 |
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| florian | Garfeild: Yes you can build all sorts of applications and run them. In fact most do not look really appealing. | 23:17 |
| Garfeild | so...i don't know name of standart software for contacts( | 23:18 |
| GAN800 | Could slashdot be any more bloated? | 23:18 |
| lcuk | how many achievements have you got? | 23:20 |
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| lcuk | GAN800, 5! | 23:21 |
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| Garfeild | sorry | 23:23 |
| Garfeild | i was out) | 23:23 |
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| GAN800 | lcuk? | 23:25 |
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| GAN800 | It used to be a pain because it had no AJAX niceties, now it's a pain because it's got too goddamn many. | 23:26 |
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| Garfeild | florian: so, can you give me advice, what program i must install) | 23:27 |
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| Garfeild | or somebody... | 23:28 |
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| qwerty12_N800 | GAN800: sourceforge already fucked up their site (really badly) & freshmeat so I guess for slashdot, it was a question of when... | 23:30 |
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| Garfeild | i'm invisible( | 23:34 |
| Stskeeps | excellent technology choice | 23:34 |
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| Macer | Stskeeps: how you got that crap to work :) | 23:35 |
| Macer | i will never understand.. it is missing like 298347289743 libs | 23:35 |
| Stskeeps | Macer: i run an old version of nexenta, maybe why | 23:35 |
| Macer | i'm downloading the opensolaris livecd to get the amd64 libs | 23:36 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 23:36 |
| Stskeeps | amd64 | 23:36 |
| Macer | evidently nexenta decided to not include a ton of them | 23:36 |
| Stskeeps | i dunno then | 23:36 |
| Macer | well.. their repostiories tend to only install 32bit libs | 23:38 |
| Macer | i guess it's a work in progress :) but i can replace the missing libs | 23:38 |
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| Garfeild | florian: are you busy? | 23:45 |
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| florian | Garfeild: yes sorry, a little bit. | 23:49 |
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| * florian tries to get Linux running on a Toshiba CPU based device | 23:49 | |
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| florian | Garfeild: Thins like Evolution... but that won't be fun I guess. | 23:49 |
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| lcuk | florian, toshiba cpu? or toshiba laptop | 23:51 |
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| lcuk | GAN800, ahhh, i thought you meant featurecreep! they have just added achievements to the user profile | 23:53 |
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| florian | lcuk: Toshiba CPU... its a TMPA910 (ARM9 based) | 23:54 |
| tds5016 | ifconfig apparently ins't installed? | 23:55 |
| qwerty12_N800 | /sbin/ifconfig | 23:55 |
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| tds5016 | how do I get my ip address? | 23:55 |
| tds5016 | thanks :-) | 23:56 |
| lcuk | cool florian, you jsut hacking for fun or building stuffs | 23:56 |
| tds5016 | what is the default user? | 23:57 |
| tds5016 | on the n810? | 23:57 |
| tds5016 | wait... I'll just log as root. | 23:57 |
| tds5016 | haha. | 23:57 |
| florian | lcuk: for fun... its an eval board I got some time ago. There is a Linux port already, but not really useful yet | 23:57 |
| tds5016 | is there a command line text editor? | 23:59 |
| tds5016 | I need to edit my repos. | 23:59 |
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