IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2008-03-16

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wom-anyone present who has done python on maemo.. especially some dbus stuff?00:08
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wom-i have working sender <-> receiver stuff, just wondering how can i pass data from receiver to sender00:10
wom-i am using rpc_async_run in sender and get callback nicely from receiver..00:11
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shackando the additional brightness levels to make the image brighter than the maximum level?00:21
KotCzarnywho knows..00:22
KotCzarnyonly source can tell00:22
lcukisnt it rm_you thats wrote the backlight applet thingy?00:30
lcukshackan - i dont think it goes brighter than max, but there are something like 128 steps available00:32
KotCzarnyhe was asking if regular 4 levels are going to the max00:32
KotCzarnylike, what was the highest step brightness00:33
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killfillhey guys..00:37
killfillim calling tech support with my N800 (sip client)00:38
killfillhow do i press "1 for support"?.. its an IVR...00:38
KotCzarnyyou can try waiting it off..00:38
killfillalready did.. :P00:38
killfillno way to make the numbers stay visible?.00:39
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killfilllook like an usability problem.. :P00:41
KotCzarny'looks'00:41
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killfillhow i turn the rec volume up?.. my bluetooth thingy has a bad mic..00:48
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KotCzarnyprobably not without software mixing00:48
killfillno software mixin gui?00:49
KotCzarnyalsa had a control for rec vol but by default it's at 100% anyway00:49
KotCzarnywhat i meant was software amplification00:49
killfillhow do i see alsa volumes?00:50
killfilli find no console mixers.. :S00:50
KotCzarnyi have compiled alsa-utils myself00:50
killfillhm..00:51
KotCzarnyi can give you binary but as i said, not much to do there00:51
killfillit would be greate if you send it. :)00:51
killfillthis way i can make me sure mic is 100%..00:51
KotCzarnymrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/alsamixer00:52
KotCzarnylet me know if it needs libs too00:52
killfillhm.. maybe i could try to record something to a file.. and not use the sip client..00:52
cLinhey KotCzarny, you know that sshfs you gave me?00:54
killfillError opening terminal: xterm.00:54
killfill:S00:54
KotCzarnyclin: yes00:54
cLinonce i leave the network, do i need to do it again?00:54
KotCzarnyhmm00:54
cLincause it seemslike it00:54
KotCzarnyonly if it disconnects00:54
cLinyea00:54
cLinlike if i switch networks00:54
KotCzarnythen definitely00:54
killfillsshfs?.. with the a sshfs kernel module?00:54
KotCzarnyjust think about it as regular ssh session00:54
cLinis there anyway to makeit auto connect?00:54
KotCzarnyclin: set keys with no password?00:55
KotCzarny:>00:55
cLin=\00:55
KotCzarnyand do simple script to see if it lists in mount output00:55
KotCzarny:)00:55
killfillis there a mic recording app around?00:55
cLinpfft, if i knew how :P00:55
KotCzarnyclin: new to scripts? :>00:55
cLinto python and maemo00:56
KotCzarnyif [ mount | grep sshfs ]; then echo mounted; else echo not mounted; fi00:56
KotCzarny;)00:56
cLinhaha00:56
killfillKotCzarny: can i see the sshfs package you send to cLin?00:57
KotCzarnykillfill: it's in the same location as that binary00:57
killfillgreate00:57
cLinKotCzarny: should be else echo (command to mount)00:57
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cLinhow would i makeit into something i can run?00:57
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KotCzarnyif [ "`mount | grep sshfss`" ]; then echo mounted; else sshfs something somewhere; fi01:01
KotCzarnyif [ "`mount | grep sshfs`" ]; then echo mounted; else sshfs something somewhere; fi01:01
KotCzarnythis one should work01:01
killfillmaybe with a grep -v grep too.. :P01:01
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KotCzarnykillfill, nope01:01
KotCzarnyhe should replace sshfs with his mount point01:02
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KotCzarnyie. /media/distant/home01:02
KotCzarnyor something01:02
MipsIrvdoes the 2.6.21 kernel source provide full device functionality? wlan, bluetooth etc?01:04
KotCzarnymips: yes01:04
MipsIrvKotCzarny: btw.. found some of your old chat logs.. saved me tons of time getting this kernel compiled01:04
KotCzarnybut it contains binary blobs01:04
MipsIrvbah.. i can live with binary blobs01:05
KotCzarnylol01:05
MipsIrvi am playing around with crossdev in gentoo01:05
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MipsIrvbeen quite a while since I've done any embedded development01:05
MipsIrvoff the top of your head.. is the 2008SE using software floating point or the vfp? if that question makes sense heh01:05
KotCzarnynokia's sdk is doing quite well01:06
KotCzarnythere was a talk about fpu today01:06
KotCzarnyyou can try today's logs :>01:06
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KotCzarnybut for a quickie, i think it's compiled without vfp, because of using thumb01:06
KotCzarnyyou can however compile with vfp support01:07
cLinKotCzarny: what should i save the file as?01:08
cLini'm going to make it now and see if it works01:08
KotCzarnyclin: huh?01:08
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cLinthe script01:08
KotCzarnymaybe autosshfs01:08
cLinlike, file.?01:08
cLinthe extension01:08
KotCzarnythen chmod +x autosshfs01:08
KotCzarnydoesn't matter01:08
KotCzarnyit's *nix01:08
cLinoh01:08
KotCzarnybut you can use .sh if you must01:08
cLinok01:08
KotCzarny:)01:08
cLinlet's see..01:08
cLinyou put [ "`mount01:09
cLinis the " and ` necessary01:09
KotCzarnydon't ask, try01:09
KotCzarnyhehe01:09
MipsIrvokay.. i GUESS this thing is running the kernel i just compiled01:09
KotCzarnybtw. earlier echos were for testing01:09
KotCzarnyso you will see what branch it takes01:09
KotCzarnyin 'if'01:09
cLinthe echo mounted? yea i figured01:09
MipsIrvthat was rather anti-climatic01:10
KotCzarny:)01:10
killfillhow do you guys autoload fuse.ko?01:11
MipsIrvokay then.. that was much faster and much simpler than I expected01:11
MipsIrvcrossdev + maemo compiled kernel sources up and running01:11
KotCzarnyinsmod01:12
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leo2007is there a performance comparison between the default browser and opera?01:13
cLinhow do i run this? i double clicked it and it says -sh: autosshfs.sh: not found01:13
KotCzarnytry adding #!/bin/sh as the first line01:14
KotCzarnyand don't forget to chmod +x it01:14
cLini did01:14
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cLincan i open it through file manager or do i need to use cmd line01:15
KotCzarnyfirst try cmd line01:16
KotCzarnyto see if it's working01:16
cLinNokia-N800-51-3:/home/user/MyDocs/.documents# autosshfs.sh01:16
cLin-sh: autosshfs.sh: not found01:16
cLini put it in docs01:16
KotCzarnyah01:16
KotCzarnyadd ./01:16
KotCzarnyat the beginning01:16
cLinoh01:16
KotCzarnyor put it in the path01:17
KotCzarnyfor example /usr/local/bin01:17
cLinstrange, it says fuse isn't loaded01:17
cLindoes it unload for any reason?01:17
KotCzarnyadd insmod fuse.ko line01:17
KotCzarny(with proper path)01:17
KotCzarnyprobably01:17
KotCzarnyrun 'uptime'01:17
KotCzarnyor lsmod01:17
cLin 16:17:01 up 12:47, load average: 0.35, 0.34, 0.2901:18
cLinModule                  Size  Used by01:18
cLing_file_storage 27560 0 - Live 0xbf05000001:18
cLincx3110x 56200 0 - Live 0xbf04100001:18
cLinumac 258788 1 cx3110x, Live 0xbf000000 (P)01:18
KotCzarny12h01:18
KotCzarnythen it rebooted01:18
KotCzarnyin the meantime01:18
cLinyea, i turned it off01:18
KotCzarnyor you turned it off01:18
KotCzarny:)01:18
KotCzarnythen add insmod line before sshfs01:18
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cLinelse insmod /usr/local/lib/modules/fuse.ko; sshfs -o allow_other clin@192.168.1.64:/ /home/user/MyDocs/Laptop; fi01:19
cLin?01:19
KotCzarnydon't ask, try01:20
cLinok01:20
cLinis there anyway for it to type in my pw? besides setting no password01:20
KotCzarnyhmm, yes, but more complicated :>01:21
cLinok01:21
KotCzarnybtw. i was talking about password-less keys, not about unsetting password01:21
KotCzarny:)01:21
cLinwell, it works. have to type in pw still01:21
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killfillhey KotCzarny01:21
killfillwhen i sshfs -o allow_other remote local_dir01:21
killfillthen the local_dir is not seeable by "user"01:22
killfillonly by root.01:22
killfillhow do i fix this?01:22
KotCzarnyln -s ?01:22
KotCzarny:>01:22
MipsIrvcLin: working on djmount or something else?01:22
killfillso i can play my remote music01:22
KotCzarnyor mount somewhere inside /home/user dir01:22
killfillln -s?01:22
KotCzarnylike clin does01:22
killfillwell i have it on /media/mmc2.. so music player can find them01:22
MipsIrvoh sshfs01:23
killfilldjmount?...01:23
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KotCzarnykillfill: you will have to get to the files yourself01:23
KotCzarnyvia 'open'01:23
KotCzarnyor use player that can browse any dir01:24
* KotCzarny hates media libraries01:24
killfillhm.. im mounting my 50G music here..01:24
killfillwhat do you mean by "open"?01:24
killfillwell the file manager cannot see the files neither.. :S01:24
MipsIrvyeah.. i've wanted to port djmount to the maemo platform so applications like mplayer have native access to upnp media01:25
MipsIrvdjmount uses fuse to create a dynamic local directory based on upnp media servers and the content they serve01:26
KotCzarnynice, too01:26
KotCzarny:)01:26
killfillaah cool.01:26
KotCzarnythough i use only ssh01:26
killfillyah.. in my case, i neded to access it via ssh too.01:26
MipsIrvultimately.. what i've been trying to do is watch programs recoded via mythtv natively on the 80001:26
KotCzarnykillfill: ls ? mount ?01:27
KotCzarny:)01:27
MipsIrverr recorded01:27
MipsIrvfuppes offers transcoding on the fly, but ffmpeg doesn't much like the nuv format..01:27
pupnikhttp://jbrodack.googlepages.com/  some public domain rompacks that don't suck for various emulators01:27
pupnikllamatron is fun01:27
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pupniki mount via nds01:28
pupniknfs01:28
KotCzarnynfs is safe only locally01:28
KotCzarnyand even then, not over wifi01:29
KotCzarny:>01:29
killfillwired.. now it works.. :P01:29
cLinwhats the default path to the homepage?01:29
KotCzarnyshould be in options01:29
KotCzarny:)01:29
cLini changed it01:29
killfillcool.. :)01:29
cLinbut i need to find it01:29
KotCzarnyhehe01:29
KotCzarnyi have changed mine too01:30
cLini like how the home.htm only shows that in the url but with a different address it shows the fullthing01:30
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KotCzarnyno 'change back to default' button?01:31
KotCzarny:)01:31
cLini did01:31
cLinbut it shows the old one, i want to find that file so i can replace it with my page01:31
* killfill throwing canola to a 50G sshfs dir.01:31
KotCzarnykillfill: yeah, 50gb to scan over wifi01:32
KotCzarnygood idea01:32
KotCzarny;)01:32
cLinlol01:33
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killfilland actually.. its over an adsl connection.. :P01:34
KotCzarnyeven better01:34
KotCzarny:>01:34
lcddrsync manages that well enough01:34
KotCzarnylcdd: but it's canola01:34
KotCzarny;)01:34
KotCzarnyread: metalayer-crawl equivalent01:35
KotCzarny;)01:35
derfrsync cheats... it runs its own server.01:35
lcddhmm. i guess the user doesn't mind waiting as long as there are pretty animations01:36
KotCzarnyderf: 50gb?01:36
KotCzarny:>01:36
lcddlike between every menu click01:36
KotCzarnyyou don't want to use up too much interrupts while watching vids/listening to music01:37
KotCzarny*many01:37
lcddi just thought up what could be a revolution01:38
killfilllooks like canola has a timeout.. :P01:38
derfYou invented the wheel?01:38
lcddmake a pretty ui which imposes no delays on the user but shows animations after the events01:38
derf(badum-TSH, thanks folks, I'll be here all week, tip your server, try the veal!)01:39
derfDepends on what you mean by "no delays"... rendering is typically done in the event thread (for a very good reason).01:41
KotCzarnybtw. sshfs can timeout sometimes01:41
lcddmaybe i should apply for a patent01:41
derfEven if you're not blocking events, you're using CPU.01:41
killfillhm.. canola seem to not like sshfs things.. :S01:41
KotCzarnyi have seen it with cygwin opensshd01:41
KotCzarnysee if it's still connected01:41
KotCzarny;)01:41
killfillKotCzarny: have you use canola with sshfs?..01:41
KotCzarnynope01:41
KotCzarnyi don't like media libraries01:42
derfThe problem with sshfs is getting it to _reconnect_ after it times out.01:42
KotCzarnyi use mplayer exclusively01:42
* killfill testing ukmp01:42
killfillKotCzarny: from command line?...01:42
pupnikKotCzarny: dod you ever find a function like wait_vsync()?01:42
pupnikthe tearing is starting to annoy me01:42
KotCzarnypupnik: i believe there's no such thing in nokia ..01:43
KotCzarnybut there's another01:43
KotCzarnyie. kernel compiles with 'manual updates to lcd'01:43
* pupnik hopes for instant gratification01:43
pupnikoh drrgr01:43
KotCzarnybut i believe hildon is using it01:43
KotCzarnyor i don't know01:44
KotCzarnyinvestigate!01:44
KotCzarny:)01:44
lcddderf: i mean that the interface should allow the user to take the next logical step immediately01:44
pupnikyou'd think lcdd would know this :)01:44
KotCzarnygetting sshfs to reconnect is quite easy01:45
KotCzarny:)01:45
KotCzarnybut lowers security a bit01:45
derfKotCzarny: Not reliably.01:45
KotCzarnyumm, haven't tried it01:45
KotCzarnybut simple ls per minute should do01:45
derfUntil it flakes out and the mount becomes unusable.01:46
KotCzarnyor worse, busy01:46
KotCzarny;)01:46
derfYes, it is _extremely_ bad at handling more than one file at a time.01:46
derfIn the "lock up your entire kernel for a while" sense of bad.01:47
KotCzarnybut in that case one can try forcing mounting it over nonempty dir01:47
KotCzarnyderf: running nfs mount forgetting nolock or portmap can be worse01:47
KotCzarny:>01:47
KotCzarnyor intr01:47
KotCzarny;)01:47
derfSure, but no one seriously uses NFS on Linux.01:48
KotCzarnystill, for me sshfs is 99% usable01:48
derfIt sucks too much.01:48
KotCzarnyderf: it has it's uses01:48
lcddnokia uses nfs01:48
derfYes, my company does to. I do not consider these people "serious".01:49
derfIn fact, that's _why_ I know how much it sucks.01:49
derf*too01:49
KotCzarny:>01:49
derf"And I know, we'll put everyone's homedir on it, so when the server goes tits up, the entire company's stuck twiddling their thumbs!"01:50
killfillhm.. the guis are too heavy to work with 226 dirs..01:53
killfillthe filemanager gets too slow..01:53
KotCzarny:>01:54
KotCzarnywanna my ncurses based mplayer gui?01:54
KotCzarny;)01:54
killfillgot one?..01:54
KotCzarnysure01:54
KotCzarnyit's in pfl dir01:55
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KotCzarnyrefresh readme01:55
KotCzarnyi forgot putting <pre> tag01:56
killfilloOh..01:56
KotCzarnyyou should put rc file in /etc01:56
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KotCzarnycan be usefull for customizing keys etc.01:57
KotCzarny'right' on dpad acts as play/go dir01:57
KotCzarnyleft is go up dir01:57
KotCzarny';' is mapped to 'make recursive playlist'01:57
KotCzarnybut on n800 some Fkey could be more usefull01:58
killfillhm..01:58
killfilli think i dont understand your program.. :)01:59
killfillwheni execute it, it generats a playlist to play with mplayer?...01:59
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killfillhttp://pastebin.com/d3c923edd01:59
KotCzarnynavigate to you songs02:00
KotCzarnyusing dpad02:00
killfillhm.. dpad.. is that a program?..02:00
KotCzarnyit should show a gui02:00
* killfill feeling ignorant.. :P02:00
KotCzarnyit's direction-pad02:01
KotCzarnyi believe02:01
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killfillyou mean the hardware buttons on the left?..02:02
KotCzarnyyup02:02
killfillah..02:02
killfillok i see no ui. is there a way to make it more verbose?.. maybe im missing a dep.02:02
KotCzarnyhmm02:02
KotCzarnynope02:03
KotCzarnyit should show02:03
KotCzarnyif you can run it with a -d switch02:03
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KotCzarnyit will generate debug file in home dir02:03
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killfillError opening terminal: xterm.02:03
killfillgot it02:03
KotCzarnyhehe02:03
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killfillok i see no ui. is there a way to make it more verbose?.. maybe im missing a dep. osso-xterm is already the newest version.02:04
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killfillsorry02:04
KotCzarny:)02:04
killfillwhere is "xterm"?... its not in osso-xterm. :S02:05
KotCzarny /usr/share/termcap ?02:05
KotCzarnyecho $TERM02:05
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killfillls: /usr/share/termcap: No such file or directory02:06
KotCzarnyterminfo then02:06
killfillTERM=xterm..02:06
KotCzarnyhmm02:09
killfillwired..02:09
KotCzarnyworks for me, wonder if i installed anything special02:09
killfillyou writed this?02:10
KotCzarnyhacked02:10
KotCzarnyit was only seeing mp3s02:10
KotCzarnyi have fixed some bugs02:10
killfillok02:10
KotCzarnyand added mplayer support02:10
killfillcool02:11
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killfillweired02:11
KotCzarnyso now it can play anything mplayer handles02:11
KotCzarnyyou're not missing ncurses lib02:11
KotCzarnyotherwise it would stop with 'no lib'02:11
killfillon your n800. you can execute 'xterm'?.. is this a command?.. becosue i dont have it..02:11
KotCzarnythere's no xterm02:12
KotCzarnyit's osso-xterm02:12
killfillyup: libncurses502:12
killfillok02:12
KotCzarnybut uses xterm terminfo caps02:12
lcddKotCzarny: where to get this frontend?02:12
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KotCzarnylcdd: mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/pfl/02:13
killfillKotCzarny: ncurses-base02:14
lcddthanks, will try it in a moment02:14
killfillwas missing that. :)02:14
KotCzarnyhuh02:14
KotCzarnygood to know02:14
killfillhey cool!..02:15
KotCzarny:)02:15
killfillmuch better.02:15
KotCzarnyyeah, media libraries suck atm.02:16
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KotCzarnyand as i said, you probably should map 'generate recursive list' to something02:16
KotCzarnyotherwise it will play current dir/playlist02:17
KotCzarnywhatever you navigate it into02:17
KotCzarny:)02:17
killfillwhat do you mean by map 'generate recursive list'?02:17
KotCzarnygo to dir with subdirs02:18
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KotCzarnythen hit ';' on on screen keyboard02:18
KotCzarny:)02:18
killfillit doing something.. :)02:20
KotCzarnyerm, how much subdirs are there?02:20
KotCzarnyit's launching find -name mp3 . or something02:21
KotCzarny:>02:21
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killfillcool.02:21
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killfillah it does a full playlist.02:21
killfillnice02:21
KotCzarny:)02:21
KotCzarnynow you see what's a recursive playlist is02:21
KotCzarny;)02:21
KotCzarnybtw. it saves this playlist02:21
KotCzarnyso if you start it again without args02:21
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KotCzarnyit will show it by default02:21
killfillany way to make the center dpad button does the same as the right button, i.e. enter, and not open the but keyboard in the xterm?02:22
KotCzarnycan be usefull02:22
killfillah02:22
KotCzarnykillfill: yes, in system settings02:22
killfill/etc/playfilelistrc?02:22
KotCzarnytext input02:22
killfilldidnt find it02:22
KotCzarnyand uncheck both i think02:22
KotCzarnyno, system02:22
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KotCzarnylike settings in system menu02:23
KotCzarnyor maybe not02:23
KotCzarnywell, at least right dpad is working as expected02:24
KotCzarny:)02:24
killfillkeeps open it..02:25
killfillyah02:25
KotCzarnyand i guess ncurses gui uses less cpu too02:26
killfillit would be very very cool, if i could do something with the song that is getting played..02:26
KotCzarnyyou can02:26
KotCzarnyuse , and .02:26
KotCzarnyfor rew and ffwd02:26
KotCzarnyas i said, it's all about mapping keys02:26
killfillah sure..02:26
KotCzarnymaybe using hardware +/- ?02:26
killfillbut i mean executing a commend with the name of the song..02:26
KotCzarnyah02:26
killfillyou know i have a mplaye daemon.. with a client on the living room.02:27
KotCzarnyhmm02:27
KotCzarnyi think you can write a script for that02:27
killfilli could use the n800 as a "pre-listen" thingy..  so if i like the song, i send it to the musicpd daemon..02:27
KotCzarnyyou see, mplayer slave is very simple02:27
killfill"was musicpd daemon.. not mplaye daemon.. :P"02:27
KotCzarny:)02:28
KotCzarnystill you can write a script02:28
KotCzarnyi guess02:28
KotCzarnysee mplayer slave reference02:28
killfilland assign it to a key?02:28
KotCzarnyhum02:28
KotCzarnyi was thinking more like it will see what command it gets and acts accordingly02:29
KotCzarnyit could run mplayer slave on it's own02:29
killfillyah.. got you.02:29
KotCzarnymaybe wget control/address && play-local song02:29
killfillbut i already have the whole musicpd infraestructure working.. :)02:29
KotCzarnyas i said, it's flexible :)02:30
killfillwhere can i see the code of this little nifty app?..02:30
killfillsoi can get an idea.. :)02:30
KotCzarnyjust a moment02:30
KotCzarnybut beware02:30
KotCzarnyi coded inside it ;)02:30
killfillheh..02:30
KotCzarnyhmm02:31
KotCzarnyif you press '?' it will probably call youtube client02:32
KotCzarny:>02:32
KotCzarnyi mean it first asks for a search keyword02:32
KotCzarnythen gets some links, then plays it using mplayer02:32
KotCzarny:)02:32
KotCzarnybut it's better ran remotely ;)02:32
KotCzarnyok, i put sources in the /pfl/02:33
KotCzarnybut it's current code, i don't remember what state it was02:33
KotCzarny:>02:33
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KotCzarnyi use it on my pc too02:35
KotCzarnyand it's very convenient02:35
KotCzarny[ and ] are prev/next song02:35
killfillcool02:35
KotCzarnyr/s, repeat/shuffle02:35
KotCzarnyi info(from mp3 tag)02:36
* killfill want to add a new key-command02:36
KotCzarny:>02:36
KotCzarny'wants'02:36
KotCzarnyyou will have to declare it in few places02:36
KotCzarnyafair02:36
killfillim just missing 1 thing tho... the dpad thing, is not controlled by the app right?.. there is no way i.e. to assign the home key to a key-command?02:37
KotCzarny?02:37
KotCzarnyplayfilelistrc02:37
KotCzarny:)02:37
KotCzarnythough i don't remember if it handles Fkeys02:37
killfillyah.. i see i can assign keyboard keys..02:38
killfillyah.. i mean Fkeys.. the hardware ones02:38
KotCzarnybut home key will be catched by hildon02:38
KotCzarnyand other too02:39
KotCzarnyin the same way center-dpad is calling osk02:39
KotCzarnymaybe if you use non-hildonized term02:39
KotCzarny:)02:39
killfillanyway.. this is cool.. with this, im very little to have my desired music system working!.. :) (with a pre-song-hearing selection thing)02:39
KotCzarny:)02:40
KotCzarnyget xkbd02:40
KotCzarnyit will take less screen space02:40
KotCzarnyand can have custom layout of the keys02:40
KotCzarny:)02:41
KotCzarnyand ability to use images on them02:41
killfillsound good!02:41
KotCzarny'sounds'02:42
KotCzarny:)02:42
killfill:)02:42
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pupnikhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=GRHJMf_jY8A  Jeff Winter (Gridrunner, Attack of the Mutant Camels, Llamatron) google tech talk on the early days of gaming02:42
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milhouseMinter02:51
KotCzarny:>02:51
b1ackD3athello!02:53
killfillKotCzarny: thanks for your tips!02:53
KotCzarnyhttp://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/tmp/IMG-knuttz_ueba_11.jpg02:53
KotCzarnyehehe02:53
KotCzarnykillfill: np02:53
KotCzarnythat will be 5 EUR02:53
KotCzarny;)02:53
killfillc'ya guysheh02:53
KotCzarny:)02:53
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pupnikooo jaguar emulator02:57
pupniktempest 200002:57
KotCzarnywere there any games for jag?02:57
pupnikhttp://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/tempest-200002:58
pupnikdidn't realize Minter made it02:58
pupnikt2k has quite a reputation02:58
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KotCzarnyhttp://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/tmp/IMG-fun_noshit10.jpg03:00
KotCzarny:>03:00
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pupnik?03:02
KotCzarnyand this one is a perfect mod for a reainy weather + nokia too: http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/tmp/IMG-fun_noshit3.jpg03:02
KotCzarny:>03:02
KotCzarny?03:02
KotCzarny*rainy03:02
KotCzarnyand costs no more than a few bucks a 3pack03:03
KotCzarny;)03:03
KotCzarnyreusable too03:04
KotCzarny:)03:04
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pupnikhttp://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=67230&hilit=jaguar+emulator  nice rundown of how 'Firefox' optimized the jaguar emulator for the gp2x03:33
KotCzarnyfirefox?03:33
KotCzarnyah.03:33
KotCzarnynick03:33
Luriawhoa dumb nick03:36
* Luria remebers when they were handles.03:37
KotCzarnyone should post about n8x0 to that list03:37
KotCzarny;)03:37
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KotCzarnyhttp://www.xgps.ro/product_info.php?pName=gps-receiver-wbt20106:13
KotCzarnyprecision <2m06:13
KotCzarny:>06:13
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KotCzarnyTime to First Fix (TTFF) : < Average 3.5/34 sec. (Hot/Cold start)06:14
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pupnikhttp://www.zen35309.zen.co.uk/gps/  linux and wbt-20106:34
pupnikhttp://www.zen35309.zen.co.uk/gps/n800.png  on N80006:34
KotCzarnycool06:35
pupniknice find06:35
KotCzarnybut it costs ~120EUR06:35
KotCzarnyhmm06:37
KotCzarnysale price of 95$06:37
KotCzarnywow06:37
Italodanceummmm06:39
Italodanceguys06:39
Italodancehello06:39
Italodance:D06:39
KotCzarny106$ with a s&h, hum hum :)06:40
Italodanceummmm i always see my n800 has a wlan connection...where is wifi? i need to do somw setting?06:40
johnxthere is an icon on the top right area of the screen, next to the battery icon06:41
Italodancehi johnx :D i am iDS :D06:42
Italodancejohnx the icon can read wlan  is it for wifi too??06:43
johnxwlan = wifi06:43
Italodance:''D06:43
Italodanceso i don't need to seetting somewhere on my n80006:44
johnxjust click the icon and select an access point from the list06:44
Italodanceyes? on my control panel..?06:44
Italodanceyes06:44
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Italodanceok how are ya?06:47
johnxpretty good06:48
Italodance:D06:49
Italodancen800 can read mkv files?06:49
Italodancex26406:49
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Italodance?06:51
johnxI don't know, I think it says in the instruction manual that came with it06:52
johnxor look on nokia.com06:52
Italodanceyes06:52
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Italodanceis there someone on games?06:59
shackanno06:59
Italodancereally strange07:00
NaviNot really07:00
johnxwhat do you mean by "is there someone on games?"?07:00
shackanwhy?07:00
Tama^2lol07:01
Italodancecos here is about 230 users now07:01
Tama^2maybe he meant #games07:01
KotCzarny220 sessions/bots07:01
KotCzarnyand 10 users07:01
Tama^2or something like that07:01
KotCzarny5 of them sleeping though07:01
Italodancelol07:02
shackanoh i have no idea who's on #games07:02
Italodancenono lol07:02
* johnx johnx is sleeping *and* a bot07:02
shackanand one of them typing annoying nonsense07:02
Italodancemy mean is playing the games on internet tablet devices07:02
Tama^2I am in #games now >.>07:03
shackanTHE games? what games?07:03
Italodancelike shadow walker doom...07:03
johnxshadow warrior?07:03
Tama^2oh THE english ...07:03
Tama^2xD07:04
KotCzarnyhmm, who said today to go easy on non-native speakers?07:04
KotCzarny*grin*07:04
shackanwhat the hell is that?07:04
Italodanceyes07:04
Tama^2KotCzarny: you are just a pedantic nerd07:04
johnxyou'll have more luck finding out about a lot of this stuff on internettablettalk.com/forums07:04
johnxjust be patient07:04
Italodancehttp://internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1742007:04
johnxand read a lot, then read some more07:04
KotCzarnyi'm just unforgiving07:04
KotCzarny:>07:04
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shackantama , no that's me07:04
Italodanceumm :I07:04
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pupnikI feel bad when things don't work ok for ppl07:48
pupnikBut there will always be a percentage who will have problems, or no fun with them07:49
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pupnikSo as long as some people enjoy it, that's good07:49
KotCzarny:>07:49
* KotCzarny mirrors imagechan07:50
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pupnikgood ones there07:53
KotCzarny600 sucked, 4500 to go07:54
KotCzarny:)07:56
KotCzarnyi have yet to find a gif viewer with animation support07:57
KotCzarny(other than fireox)07:57
KotCzarny:)07:57
pupnikgwenview does08:00
pupnikit's kde and slow to start08:00
KotCzarnyhuh08:00
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KotCzarnyand something without heavy depends?08:00
KotCzarnyxzgv and xv don't do animated gifs08:01
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aquatixmorning all10:33
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keesjhi10:34
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ccookeAnyone happen to recall where maemo keeps wireless network definitions?10:51
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ccookeah, got it11:05
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AStormhello11:08
AStormfrom which repo can i download basic tools like bzip2 and cron?11:09
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wom-AStorm: http://gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en&system=maemo4 check if you can find a repo from here11:14
AStormchecked there i think11:15
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qwerty12cron I found in a repo but you can use the tar file too. let me check11:18
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AStormhmm, should be in extras...11:18
AStormi mean, bzip211:18
AStormcouldn’t find it11:19
qwerty12cron's here11:19
qwerty12http://maemo.daylessday.org/repo/dists/chinook/user/binary-armel/cron-4.1.deb11:19
qwerty12bzip2 should be in a repo on gronmayer, I have it installed on my N800 Chinook11:19
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AStormit should be in maemo-extras11:21
qwerty12quick question 192.168.2.15 is the default usb networking ip right? from the maemo wiki, it says that.11:21
AStormbut i can’t see it in app-manager11:21
qwerty12Put the app manager into red-pill11:21
qwerty12Generally, from what I've noticed, more command line apps show up in red pill11:22
AStormhmm11:22
AStormhave to install some switcher11:22
AStormfrom where?11:22
qwerty12switcher for red-pill?11:23
qwerty12you can do it straight from app manager interface11:23
AStormhuh?11:23
AStormit’s a fresh n81011:23
qwerty12what switcher are you on about lol?11:24
AStormidk11:24
AStormi still know little about maemo11:24
qwerty12ok, if you want to go into redpill mode: Go to "Tools > Application catalogue", click "New", enter "matrix" into the "Web Address" field, click "Cancel". Choosing the red pill will activate the red pill mode, obviously, and chosing the blue one will deactivate it.11:25
qwerty12Do that in application manager11:25
AStormmhm11:25
qwerty12Then try searching again for available applications for bzip11:25
qwerty12It's recommended to put the Tablet back into blue pill mode when you are done (personally, being lazy, I just keep it in red pill)11:27
AStormthanks! :)11:28
qwerty12np :)11:28
AStormhehe11:28
AStormlol, app man died11:30
qwerty12It does that when too much apps are trying to be displayed...11:31
qwerty12Just give it time and get bzip and put it back into blue pill :)11:31
AStormgot bzip, checking the rest11:33
qwerty12oh right :)11:33
* Jaffa 's App Manager died last night (in blue pill mode with just a couple of repos enabled)11:34
qwerty12Lol why?11:34
JaffaNo idea. Seg fault type thing11:35
AStormyeah, it tends to do that ;/11:35
JaffaFirst time I'd ever seen that11:35
qwerty12I actually saw mine do it on the 1st day I got it. I added ALL the repo's from gronmayer & set it into red pill...11:35
AStormwww sometimes crashes too11:35
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AStormnokia should use dejavu fonts11:39
qwerty12I believe you can install your own fonts but I have no idea on how to do it11:40
JaffaPut them in /home/user/.fonts.11:41
Jaffa^ Step 1)11:41
JaffaStep 2) There is no step 2.11:41
qwerty12Lol, thanks :D11:41
AStormqwerty12, there is a ttf-dejavu package in maemo-extras11:42
AStormbrb11:43
qwerty12hmm, I may try it out then. But i remember installing that bytecode freetype lib in itt wiki, it made fonts nicer but it messed up my terminal keybindings. But I guess this is just fonts11:43
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JaffaIndeed11:47
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qwerty12I'm looking at the dejavu deb for chinook, the fonts install to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu . Does that make a difference?11:52
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Jaffaqwerty12: that's the right place for debs to install, but as a user dropping in /home/user/.fonts is easier (no need to elevate to root privilege)11:58
qwerty12Oh, ok thanks11:58
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AStormyeah, dejavu sans mono is so much better12:00
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johnxhey rm_you :D12:02
rm_youaha!12:02
rm_youspring break LO12:02
johnxnice12:02
rm_yous/LO/:P/12:03
infobotrm_you meant: spring break :P12:03
rm_youstill have one essay to write tho >_< damnit12:03
aquatixpft, breaks are for wussies12:03
rm_youanyway, it's 5am, gotta go to sleep so i can wake up in time to walk to the taco place before they close at 2pm :P12:03
* aquatix doesn't have one12:03
aquatixrm_you: :)12:04
* johnx wants tacos :|12:04
rm_youpoor aquatix12:04
* rm_you also wants tacos. still.12:04
* qwerty12 wants chicken wings & chips :P12:04
* aquatix just had breakfast sandwiches, shut up about food ;)12:05
aquatix:P12:05
aquatixaaaanyway12:05
qwerty12I had microwave pizza for breakfast :P12:05
aquatixah? any good?12:05
aquatixdoesn't that become mushy?12:06
qwerty12It's actually quite normal12:06
qwerty12It just has cheese & tomato sauce in it12:06
rm_youhttp://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=29.466279&lon=-98.492721&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=212:06
AStormyou people, eat healthier! ;)12:06
rm_youjohnx: :P12:06
aquatixAStorm: as said, i had breakfast with some nice sandwiches12:07
qwerty12AStorm, UK is the fattest country in Europe afaik, I'm upholding our honour :P12:08
qwerty12Although, saying that, I'm not fat :D12:08
johnxrm_you, I don't think there is one close to me :/12:09
rm_you:(12:09
* aquatix feels thin 12:10
AStormheh12:10
* aquatix is the thin kind of geek ;)12:11
rm_youjohnx: you should label your apartment :P http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=35.441652&lon=139.633484&z=10&l=0&m=a&v=212:11
johnxI don't really feel a need to advertise where I live...12:11
rm_youlol12:11
aquatixheheh12:11
aquatixjohnx: i wouldn't do that too :)12:11
rm_youi labeled my house for the hell of it :P12:12
johnxgood for you :P12:12
qwerty12Time to put on my ski mask...12:12
johnxqwerty12, cold where you are, or going to rob a bank?12:12
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qwerty12I'm going to rob something...12:12
qwerty12My computer is loading up wikimapia12:13
qwerty12...12:13
rm_youlol12:13
rm_youmeanwhile... sleep :P12:15
aquatixrm_you: hf12:15
qwerty12Perfect..., you don't have a alarm right? :P12:15
johnx'night rm_you12:15
qwerty12good nite12:15
qwerty12@rm_you12:15
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rm_youlol, i'm like... on the other side of the country :P12:16
aquatixdon't underestimate robbing by proxy12:16
rm_youlol12:16
rm_youdon't underestimate my father's shotgun :P12:16
* rm_you sleeps12:16
aquatixheheh12:16
johnxtelnet robber.example.com 8080 ; GET stuff-from-your-house12:16
aquatixwget rm_you.net/*12:17
guardianmorning12:17
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aquatixor rather12:17
aquatixwget -rl rm_you.net12:17
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Italodancejohnx are u there?12:41
GnutoN810hi12:41
Italodancehi12:41
GnutoN810Italodance, hey12:42
Italodancehow can i contact to maemo website?12:42
Italodancewherer is their email?12:42
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christefanoItalodance: there are many addresses for different things. to contact them about the maemo.org site try webhost@maemo.org12:45
AStormblah, the default sip chat doesn’t support stun12:46
Italodancethank u christefano12:46
AStormneed some client that knows stun. Any hints?12:47
christefanosure. good night everyone12:47
qwerty12good nite12:47
Italodancei tried to download apps games with my n800 0s2008 but got the same problem here! WHY?12:47
Italodancemy problem is this:::::12:47
ItalodanceAuthorization Required12:47
ItalodanceThis server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required.12:47
Italodance--------------------------------------------------------------------------------12:47
ItalodanceApache/1.3.33 Server at stage.maemo.org Port 8012:47
AStormyour proxy is broken12:47
qwerty12@AStorm; is stun this: http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/img/acct/acct06c.png12:47
qwerty12Because if so, rtcomm beta supports it12:47
AStormhmmm12:48
qwerty12rtcomm beta upgrades your built in client12:48
AStormyes, that12:49
Italodancewhat's my problem?12:49
AStormmhm, where do i get it?12:49
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woodong50hi12:49
qwerty12http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/12:49
qwerty12hi @ woodong12:49
AStormmhm12:50
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AStorm:)12:51
Italodance:''(12:52
Italodanceplease12:52
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Italodancechristefano13:01
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Italodancethe only contact is webhost@maemo.org13:02
Italodance??????13:02
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Italodance?13:04
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Italodancenotices@maemo.org13:05
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johnxItalodance, what page are you trying to access?13:16
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sp3000afaict notices is reserved for a very specific purpose...13:24
AStormstill no luck with sip ;)13:29
qwerty12:(13:30
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JaffaItalodance: try raising a bug at bugs.maemo.org13:33
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guardianItalodance: i tried to download apps games with my n800 0s2008 but got the same problem here! WHY?13:36
guardianwhat are you trying to downoad ?13:36
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JaffaIt's a problem with the maemo.org server which is why it's affecting you both13:37
guardianno i just copy pasted his "question"13:38
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guardiani'm fine, i stay away from *.maemo.org :D13:38
Jaffaah Â:-)13:43
qwerty12@guardian, Maybe use quote marks? :)13:44
guardianin fact i'm doing what i did when i used mirc on windows13:45
guardianit dislays <nick> [message]13:45
guardianso copy pasting that is not embiguous13:45
guardianhowever with colloquy on my mac; it's nick: message13:46
guardianthus looking like i'm talking to him13:46
qwerty12Oh right :). I use mirc when I am in windows, x-chat in my linux , pidgin on my N800 :D13:46
guardianthx everyone, this is all for the lousy details of the day :D13:46
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qwerty12I have a quick n00b question to developers, how to run a program from c code? I quickly edited it to this: http://pastebin.com/d29978fd8 and when I compile, I get this: http://pastebin.com/d791bd73f . Please bear with me, I cannot develop at all :(13:54
BugBluethat's not C13:56
qwerty12c++? I cannot develop :D, I just want to make a change to the code someone else wrote13:57
johnxthat looks like a shell script, unless I'm confused13:57
pH5qwerty12: try system("xmodmap -e 'keycode 114 = Right' -e 'keycode 111 = Up' -e 'keycode 113 = Left' -e 'keycode 116 = Down'");13:57
pH5#include <stdlib.h> in the beginning of the c file13:58
johnxqwerty12, ok, give us some more details :)13:58
qwerty12The code is here: http://sse2.net/rotate/rotate-sb-plugin-0.1.tar.bz213:58
qwerty12@ph5, thanks, I will try that13:59
qwerty12That's the original code, I want to change it so when you rotate, it rotates the keys too13:59
johnxthat would be nice. :)13:59
johnxwhich file did you modify?13:59
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johnxrotate-sb-plugin.c?14:00
qwerty12Yes14:00
qwerty12I copied the xmodmap code out of Benson's shell script14:00
johnxshell script != C code :)14:00
sp3000Jaffa: "try" indeed, bugzilla's not inclined to write in its db this weekend apparently :)14:00
qwerty12I copied the command line :P14:01
johnxqwerty12, what pH5 wrote should work just fine.14:01
qwerty12@ph5, many thanks, that line compiles14:02
qwerty12yep, it works :)14:02
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qwerty12Thanks. gtg, bye14:09
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Jaffasp3000: must be its time of the month.14:16
JaffaHmm, server probs do seem to occur monthly. Perhaps its sun-spots14:16
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konttoriwom-: I've done14:23
konttoriSorry I was reading backlog and thought it was current post14:23
konttorinevermind14:23
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Jaffakonttori: what shiny things are you working on at Nokia, btw?14:25
konttoriSome I can say in public, some I cannot.14:25
konttoriI'm working pretty closely with meta-tracker project at the moment14:25
Jaffameta-tracker?14:25
konttorihttp://www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/14:26
konttori(e.g. as mentioned by jamie (the creator of tracker): http://jamiemcc.livejournal.com/  )14:26
Jaffaah, cool14:27
johnxthank god14:27
johnxdoes that mean soon we'll have an indexer that won't flip out when it sees a symlink?14:27
konttoriif you are interested, mailing lists discuss out current public targets with meta-tracker14:27
konttoriyeah, well, tracker doesn't flip even now14:27
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Jaffakonttori: with a focus on ITOS to replace meta-layer-crawler (as johnx says)14:28
Jaffa?14:28
konttorican't comment14:28
johnxah, ok so Nokia is paying you to work on tracker but they won't officially comment whether they plan to use it in ITOS or not. Say no more, say no more. :)14:29
Jaffa:)14:29
konttoribut what I can say is that we have been running tracker on the n810 quite a lot and it's very very fast and only sips memory.14:29
johnxthat's encouraging news14:29
wom-konttori: you mean that python one? I solved that, but thanks anyway :)14:29
JaffaTypical of the lack of comms on ITOS' roadmap (or even maemo's as tracker's open)14:29
konttoriyeah, well, I'm only managing the project, not coding (regrettably ... I'd really like to get hands dirty with it)14:30
Jaffabut cool anyway14:30
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pete_Hey guys14:30
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konttoriwom-: yeah. good to know you were able to get it solved14:30
cbx33I saw a few comments in here about it wondered if someone was able to help me14:30
cbx33I know it's not strictly maemo14:30
cbx33the NGW10014:30
cbx33anyone know what I'm talking about14:30
Jaffanever heard of it14:31
konttoriwhat makes tracker so very special is that it handles other content besides metadata and also contains a lightning fast search to all content.14:31
johnxsomething based around an avr32?14:31
cbx33johnx: yes14:31
* johnx raids google14:31
johnxwhat are you trying to do?14:31
cbx33well.....there is a nice free toolchain etc14:31
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cbx33but I'm at a bit of a loss as so how to....well.....use it....14:31
cbx33I was hoping to attempt to port apache to it.....but I'm not sure it's possible14:32
cbx33wanted to make a nagios box to monitor network devices14:32
cbx33but in a tiny tiny package14:32
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johnxcbx33, so does this already run linux? or is part of the project getting linux booting on it, too?14:34
johnx32MB of RAM...you probably don't want appache14:35
johnxanyways, I don't know much (anything?) about the avr32 stuff, but you might want to poke at openembedded.net14:35
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x-demonanyone tried gngeo?14:36
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x-demoncan't get it fullscreen14:38
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crashanddieHey, is it just me or is there something wrong with the downloads ?14:40
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crashanddieLike in, impossible to install anything on my n810 ?14:42
qwerty12_N800You may have corrupt internal mmc, check itt14:43
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crashanddiewuuut ?14:44
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qwerty12_N800itt = internettablettalk lol . Try copying a file onto your internal mmc with the file manager and look at what it says (if anything)14:49
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crashanddieI just copied an mp3 on it14:52
crashanddieworked fine14:52
qwerty12_N800That's odd then. When you install a app and the error appears , what does details say?14:54
x-demonAnyone use gngeo?14:56
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unique311x-demon, yes14:58
unique311alot14:58
x-demonoh14:59
unique311recently more than alot...get a wiimote14:59
x-demoni install xmeame, gngeo14:59
unique311hey14:59
unique311install xgngeo as a frontend...and support my hardword14:59
x-demonWHERE it?14:59
x-demondeb14:59
unique311the garage15:00
unique311and it makes your life very easy.15:00
x-demon16-2?15:00
unique311https://garage.maemo.org/projects/xgngeo/15:01
unique311yes15:01
x-demonwill try now15:01
x-demonxmaeme sucks...15:01
unique311any questions you had about xmaeme will be dismissed15:01
x-demonit's most powerful for gngeo, yes?15:01
x-demonok, installing it15:02
x-demonunique311: what about SNES?15:02
unique311its a frontend.  similar to xmaeme15:03
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unique311but you get to pick the path where your bios is located,15:03
x-demonnot starting =(15:03
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x-demoni use SO200815:03
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unique311i'm on os2008 also15:04
x-demonhmm. maybe dependencies?15:04
unique311python15:04
x-demonoh15:04
unique311your device new?15:04
x-demonno15:04
x-demonso15:04
x-demon2 weeks15:04
unique311do you have python installed?15:04
x-demonbut no python15:04
unique311ok15:05
unique311tis why15:05
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x-demonapt-get install python?15:05
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unique311do it from the app manager15:05
x-demonwhat packet?15:05
unique311setting>application manager15:05
unique311packet?15:05
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unique311go to application manager15:06
x-demoni mean that in apt frontend too many python packets =)15:06
unique311i didn't get that one, sorry.15:06
unique311come again15:06
x-demonpython2.5-edjie-demo python2.5-feedparser python2.5-pyinotofy15:07
x-demonwhich of them?15:07
unique311python2.4-runtime i think15:07
unique311python2.5-runtime i think15:08
x-demonnot here 0_o15:08
unique311strange15:08
x-demoni doesnt see that15:08
unique311maybe its installed15:08
x-demonoh15:08
unique311apt-cache search python15:08
x-demoni install xmaeme15:08
x-demonit req python15:08
unique311alot of apps do15:08
unique311python2.5-runtime15:09
unique311should be there15:09
unique311apt-get install python2.5-runtime15:10
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x-demon17 megs...15:10
x-demoncan i transfer whole system to 32 gigs card?15:11
unique311you can boot off mmc15:11
x-demoni have sd15:11
unique311cool15:11
unique311so go to ITT15:11
x-demonyeah15:11
x-demonthx15:11
unique311and do a search for booting of mmc15:11
x-demonok15:12
unique311http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=863115:12
unique311read it lots of times before taking the plunge15:13
unique311How much did you pay for the 32GB SD15:13
unique311did that even come out yet15:13
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x-demoncan't memorise15:13
x-demonit's not my15:13
x-demonbut i am going to UAE15:13
x-demoni think it about 80$ in uae15:14
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unique311you can get stuff from dubhai really cheap15:15
unique311i forgot15:15
unique311where in the emrates are you going?15:15
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x-demonunique311: hm?15:17
x-demondubai15:17
unique311sandbox15:18
x-demonyour gngeo frontend doesnt work15:18
unique311tis the nickname use naval folks giveth it.15:18
unique311it does over here, i really don't know what to tell you15:18
unique311did you install python15:18
x-demonits really laggy when browsing for roms15:19
unique311now thats really strange15:19
x-demonThis ROM is unloadable because Gngeo could not find any suitable driver to handle it15:19
unique311ok15:20
unique311thats a problem with the rom15:20
x-demonmetal slug 115:20
unique311let me explain15:20
unique311xgngeo is a frontend.15:20
x-demoni understand it15:20
unique311gngeo is the program15:20
x-demonbut i run this rom from xmaeme15:20
unique311only certain roms work15:20
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unique311did you set up xgngeo15:21
unique311?15:21
x-demonyes15:21
unique311http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN57-Vn0WpI15:21
unique311watch the video15:21
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unique311and then call me in the morning15:21
x-demonhuh? metal slug not working???15:22
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fysawoo!15:30
fysa*** FORMULA ONE ***15:30
unique311game?15:32
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cyberholicgood afternoon everyone :)16:02
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cyberholicjust in case some of you are interested in: i developed nearly a dozen of n800/n810 wallpapers...... can get them here: http://www.mojocafe.de/blog16:04
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cbx33crashanddie: not got my n810 on at the mo, but it is possible16:08
crashanddiecbx33, I dunno, I think I have a network problem or something16:09
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Ar-rashi16:11
magicrobotmonkey/script unload mumbles16:11
cyberholicAr-ras: hi :)16:13
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Ar-rasmust i patch something to use external USB Device with N800?16:13
JaffaYay, my ITT post count is now down to zero and I'm all n00bish - albeit with a shiny new account with a nick I actually want & use.16:14
Ar-ras?16:20
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T0b0trascyberholic: thanks for the idea. Made my wallpapers out of http://xtalk.msk.su/photo/Japan05/21.jpeg16:24
cyberholicT0b0tras: beautiful! But what idea did you have?16:25
cyberholicAr-ras: there is a nice tutorial somewhere as last news on maemo.org16:26
T0b0trascyberholic: to change boring default wallpaper :-)16:26
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cyberholic*smile* ... i will add more in the next days. at the moment i am working on an alarm clock as Mojo16:27
Ar-rasi took a usb mini a and a female USB connector and made a cable from that, is that ok?16:28
cyberholicar-ras: as fas as i know yes, but you need otg16:28
cyberholici think...16:28
Ar-rasOTG?`16:28
Ar-rasis that a chip?16:28
cyberholichttps://garage.maemo.org/projects/usb-otg-plugin/16:29
Ar-rasn116:29
cyberholic;)16:29
cyberholicBut this is only guessed as i have no female2female cable around here.... WAIT!!!!!!16:29
qwerty12_N800You can also use konttori's usbcontrol16:29
cyberholicHere you go... this is what i found yesterday: http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/kate-alholas-forum-nokia-blog/maemo/2008/01/21/usb-on-the-go?ticket=ST-85752-iEedv1B2XUapCzVkEfoVZrz7DP32ZVpLyzl-2016:30
znarfHow does the .service file interact with the osso_initialize function?16:30
znarfIt seems the value of "Name" in the .service file needs to match somehow.16:31
znarfThe libosso api says the application argument in osso_initialize must not contain any dots (only a-z plus underscore). That means only the suffix (i.e. myapp)16:31
znarfThe strange thing is that this if I use the "com.nokia.myapp" it works as expected but not with an self defined string (i.e. "domain.my.myapp").16:31
Ar-raswhat is that??? USB Ethernet Mode16:35
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qwerty12_N800Makes the device appear as a networked machine  to your comp16:36
Ar-rasah16:36
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qwerty12_N800I set  up my debian for usb network and i can now telnet and ssh into my n80016:36
qwerty12_N800I hear you can also share your internet over usb to the tablet16:37
Ar-rasdoesnt work :(16:38
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leo2007what's the maximum cpu frequency for n810?16:44
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Ar-ras40016:46
Ar-rasmhz16:46
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leo2007is that a hardware limit?16:48
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znarfany ideas regarding the .service and osso_initialize problem? why does it only work if i either violate the api (by using "." in the application string) or having com.nokia in the .service file?16:52
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Ar-rasleo2007 yes afaik16:55
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cyberholicHey everyone, i have just finished to develop an alarm clock as Mojo for mojocafe.de .... now i am at the point where i ask my self what i shall use as "alarm" sound.... what would you like to be waken up in the morning?17:26
unique311Yahooooooooooooo ooohooooo17:27
cyberholicloooooool... really?... well i think i can not use that as i will get in trouble with yahoo :)17:27
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Jaffacyberholic: I used to find the door chime from ST:TNG really effective as an alarm sound17:28
cyberholicjaffa:mmmmmmhh but that will only sound nice played once..... or do you want a female voice saying something like "Attention Attention - this is an alarm!" lol17:29
Jaffacyberholic: it sounds once, and then once a minute17:29
cyberholicmmmmmmhhhhh. thats a good idea...... do you got an open source free sound that i can use somewhere?17:30
cyberholicat thefreesoundproject there are no star track sounds :(17:31
cyberholicwhat about a "rain sound" so that you will get up totally stressed .lol.17:33
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ItalodanceHELO GUYS17:39
ItalodanceAuthorization Required17:39
ItalodanceThis server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required.17:39
Italodance--------------------------------------------------------------------------------17:39
ItalodanceApache/1.3.33 Server at stage.maemo.org Port 8017:39
Italodancehttp://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/bora/free/c/canola2/canola2_2.0.0~beta4-maemo1_all.deb17:39
Italodancei can't download yet  why?17:39
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JaffaItalodance: cos it's still broken?17:40
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Italodancedon't know   is it working there?17:40
Italodancei tried ie and firefox and my n800 opera17:40
Italodancebut no! :(17:41
Italodancetell me can u download there?  what is this message? for what?17:41
Jaffacyberholic: something like [COLOR=DimGray][B]Andrew Flegg[/B] -- mailto:andrew@bleb.org | [url=http://www.bleb.org/][COLOR=DimGray][u]http://www.bleb.org[/u][/COLOR][/url][/COLOR]17:41
JaffaOr, rather: [COLOR=DimGray][B]Andrew Flegg[/B] -- mailto:andrew@bleb.org | [url=http://www.bleb.org/][COLOR=DimGray][u]http://www.bleb.org[/u][/COLOR][/url][/COLOR]17:41
JaffaBah17:41
JaffaMispasting sucks17:41
Jaffahttp://www.trekmania.net/wavs/doorchime.wav17:41
cyberholic:)17:42
JaffaFinally. *phew*17:42
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ItalodanceJaffa can u download from http://repository.maemo.org/extras now?17:42
cyberholicI think that is copyrighted :(17:42
sp3000Italodance: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2237#c4 could be instructive17:43
JaffaItalodance: it's not that straight-forward cos it's load-balanced17:43
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cyberholicWould it be nice to wake up by ocean waves or could that put somebody into a trauma by thinking that the room is under water?17:43
sp3000if not too helpful17:43
Jaffacyberholic: very possibly (although being so short it should fall under fair use).17:43
Jaffacyberholic: One of the default ITOS sounds is waves, I don't like 'em (it could be that the recording's way too loud and compressed tho')17:44
cyberholicright....17:44
Jaffasp3000: that's ridiculous!17:44
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sp3000US legislation ridiculous? unpossible!17:46
Italodancethank u guys17:46
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sp3000and then there's https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2643#c217:46
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Jaffasp3000: US legislation says you can't provide a download service to countries formally part of Yugoslavia?17:58
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sp3000dunno, I was just taking it out on a random string in a random comment18:01
cyberholicOk, i just finished the first alarm clock as mojo.... for those that are not registere at mojocafe.de can view a preview at: http://www.mojocafe.de/blog/18:02
Jaffasp3000: true :-)18:02
Jaffacyberholic: can the weather forecast mojo display celcius?18:04
cyberholicyeah... it changes all 5 seconds between F and C18:05
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sp3000that's ...educational?18:09
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KotCzarnyayawn18:15
cyberholicgood morning *yawn* though beeing up for over 12 hours now :)18:17
KotCzarny:)18:17
qwerty12afternoon here ;)18:17
KotCzarnyhere too18:17
qwerty12Lol, my bad, I'm missing something :P18:17
KotCzarnybut for a good yawn there's always right time18:17
qwerty12yawn? oh wait, I thought you meant something else... :P18:18
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eichiis there no qemu maemo sdk? only vmware?18:24
eichii dont want to install vmwareplayer18:24
qwerty12Check the bottom of the page18:25
KotCzarnythen don't18:25
KotCzarnyand install nokia's sdk18:25
KotCzarnyvmware is for lazy anyway18:25
KotCzarny(i mean most lazy)18:25
qwerty12vmware sux. I had the image and so annoying, I installed Ubuntu and the scratchbox and then mounted the vmware image and took all the good stuff out of it18:26
KotCzarnywhy didn't you run sdk install script?18:26
qwerty12I did first, I had the proper scratchbox set up but the vmware image contains a lot of a good stuff18:26
leo2007Is there any commercial dictionary that can be run in n810?18:27
qwerty12Look into SDictViewer18:27
leo2007such as m-w or oxford/cambridge18:27
qwerty12The program isnt commercial but you can get commerical dictionaries (like Oxford etc)18:27
leo2007I heard SDictViewer is slow18:28
KotCzarnyi can give you my kcxlator18:29
KotCzarnybut it works in xterm (ncurses based)18:29
KotCzarnyerm, it's not mine, my part is porting it to ncurses :)18:29
qwerty12what is it :P?18:30
KotCzarnythere are some thesaurus' and eng<-->(spa|ger|pol) dbs for it available18:30
qwerty12Nice :)18:30
KotCzarnyyou can try it at: mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/kcxlator/18:31
KotCzarny(yes, i did php ui for it too :)18:31
qwerty12Looks good :) /me does thumbs up18:32
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KotCzarnyit was primarly made for mobile phones18:34
KotCzarnysymbian/java etc.18:34
KotCzarnybut i missed it on my laptop :)18:34
qwerty12On my W810, you can get a lot of *cough* hackzored dictionaries... :P18:34
KotCzarnyit's free18:34
qwerty12True :D18:34
KotCzarnyie. dbs are pd afait18:34
KotCzarnyqwerty: look for xlator18:35
qwerty12Ahh, I see18:35
KotCzarnykcxlator is my ncurses/php hack18:35
KotCzarny:)18:35
qwerty12Cool :)18:35
cyberholicHey people... do you know of any other umpcs or mobile devices having 800x480 screen resolution? ... apart asus eee18:36
KotCzarnycyberholic: sony has one i think18:36
KotCzarnydon't remember the name18:36
KotCzarnystarting with m i think18:36
cyberholicmylo?18:36
qwerty12I think U series18:36
KotCzarnyyup18:36
qwerty12UX etc18:36
KotCzarnymylo18:36
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MangoFusionpersonally i have the sdk installed in virtualbox. no problems18:38
MangoFusionexcept that i can't think of what to make18:38
* KotCzarny have sdk installed in slackware18:38
MangoFusion;)18:38
KotCzarny*has18:38
* qwerty12 has it in Ubuntu :P18:38
KotCzarnymangof: x games ;)18:38
qwerty12+xx?18:39
dtahtbotqwerty12: Error: "xx?" is not a valid command.18:39
qwerty12++xx?18:39
dtahtbotqwerty12: Error: "+xx?" is not a valid command.18:39
KotCzarny+go fsck yourself18:39
dtahtbotKotCzarny: Error: "go" is not a valid command.18:39
MangoFusioni think everyone else has ported all of the good games :P18:39
qwerty12lol18:39
KotCzarnywhos bot it is?18:39
qwerty12not mine18:39
qwerty12Plain xchat install18:40
qwerty12Is developing always annoying?18:41
keesjwhat you say18:42
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KotCzarnyonly at 'hunt the bugs' stage18:42
keesja you mean challenging right...18:42
qwerty12A bit, more frustrating :D18:42
keesjprogramming is for the elite18:44
qwerty12I've spent ages adding support to jott's sb-rotate-plugin to change the keyboard map when rotating and I managed to to that but I wanted to add support to not change the keyboard map as well like the original, I've done that and now I've got to try and sort out the errors with 0.1% knowledge of programming18:44
keesj:P18:44
qwerty12*do18:44
qwerty12:)18:44
KotCzarny:)18:44
KotCzarny0.1% knowledge of programming may be the key to frustration18:44
KotCzarny;)18:44
KotCzarnybut you will learn18:45
KotCzarnyeventually18:45
qwerty12Lol, true but I'm applying a bit of general knowledge to the code I've seen like copy & paste... :\18:45
MangoFusionor become insane18:45
qwerty12Muhahaha18:45
keesjit always remains challenging, because the problem you challenge also become bigger18:46
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unique311http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1771218:55
qwerty12I saw that18:55
unique311a good build of mtpaint by bundyo18:55
unique311fullscreen18:55
KotCzarnywow18:56
qwerty12Cool, I tried out the earlier port and its a bit odd to use IMHO18:56
KotCzarnydoes pres. sens. finnaly work?18:56
unique311he just updated it..18:56
KotCzarnythat's why i'm asking :)18:56
qwerty12"Built mtPaint 3.20 for OS2008 and appears to work fine even with pressure sensitivity and alpha blended brushes"18:56
qwerty12You can adjust that in the preferences afaik18:57
KotCzarnyyes, i see what's written there18:57
KotCzarnyi'm just asking if someone tried it18:57
KotCzarny:)18:57
qwerty12Oh, sorry :)18:57
unique311checking for this right now kot18:57
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KotCzarnybtw. what's that 'stop sign' status plugin?18:58
qwerty12Its the presence applet afaik18:59
KotCzarnyah.18:59
KotCzarnyauthor should redo the icons then18:59
KotCzarny:>18:59
KotCzarnystop beign white circle with a stripe and green being white circle with checkmark inside19:00
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unique311i don't think it works19:00
unique311not getting anywhere with the preference19:00
KotCzarnyusing colors in status bar doesn't look right19:00
qwerty12I had to keep going back to enable the tablet19:00
qwerty12Odd but I finally got it to work19:00
unique311i'm getting different outcomes with different settings..19:01
unique311but no pressure sens19:01
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MangoFusionmtpaint? never heard of it19:05
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n800musicis there a way to map the up/down pad to make microb scroll instead of jumping links?19:32
NaviYes.19:32
qwerty12Check the Internet Tablet Talk wiki19:32
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cyberholicDoes anyone knows how to force a fullscreen in html that works on my n800 ?19:39
MangoFusionforce in html?19:40
KotCzarnyforcing sux.19:40
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smackpotatoyour at the murcy of matchbox the windows manager19:40
MangoFusioni would guess it is not possible, but then again stranger things have been possible19:40
KotCzarnymaybe some javascript19:41
n800musicdid opera use tabs?19:41
KotCzarnyopera is out19:42
KotCzarnymicrob is in19:42
KotCzarny:)19:42
n800musicjust curious19:42
cyberholicwell there are some javscripts to force, the question is.... will they work on the device *hehe* ... i will tell you in a minute19:42
n800musicit's a memory hog tho19:42
n800musicas big as the desktop version19:42
cyberholicby the way: anyone of you would like to see a special RSS feed as mojo, like the ones i added yesterday?19:43
smackpotatoany gtk wizz around19:44
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cyberholicnah... jessus.... fullscreen javascripts seem to be squished by os2008 :( .... not one works :(19:49
KotCzarnythen browse microb javascript functions19:50
smackpotatoya matchbox desides where to put the windows and i dont think its too smart19:50
KotCzarny'decides'19:50
cyberholicwelll HAL would decide the correct thing.... "...as long it is full of stars!"19:51
smackpotatotx19:51
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qwerty12Could someone do me a favour please? In scratchbox, run sb-menu, go to Show and choose Chinook_ARMEL and tell me what the CPU-transparency: line says by default please.20:06
Jaffaqwerty12: CPU-transparency: /scratchbox/devkits/cputransp/bin/qemu-arm-0.8.2-sb220:07
qwerty12Ok, thanks :(20:07
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n800mwhat's the root pasd?20:41
KotCzarnyblank20:41
n800moh20:41
KotCzarnyunless you have set it already20:41
n800mdoh20:42
n800mit's blank20:42
n800mhey sometimes when i download apps they get stuck downloading20:43
n800mwith the app manager open20:43
KotCzarnythere was apt-get command to purge them20:43
KotCzarnyor clean20:43
KotCzarnyi don't remember20:44
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milhouseDoes it seem strange to anyone else that there haven't been any bug updates in Bugzilla since Thursday night...?20:46
milhousesorry, Thursday morning - 11:29 is the last modification20:47
KotCzarnybugzilla went invallid-db-pass few days ago20:47
KotCzarnyand probably no one fixed it yet20:47
KotCzarny:)20:47
milhouseaha... i'm logged in, but only viewing bugs20:47
milhouseyeah, probably another month for a fix if they're true to form20:47
KotCzarnyyou can try posting a bug about it :P20:48
KotCzarny;)20:48
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milhousehah, did think about it... :)20:48
wazdgood evening all :)20:48
milhouseevening20:48
wazdcan anybody answer me a small question bout Maemo?)20:49
KotCzarnyprobably20:49
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Jaffamilhouse: you got an RSS feed for all bugs?20:49
wazdHave anybody worked with Maemo new double sided menu? (Applications)20:49
JaffaDefine "worked"?20:50
wazdis it possible to make on the left not tab selector but a button itself?20:50
KotCzarny'double sided' ?20:50
n800mdouble menu?20:50
wazdAaaah)20:50
KotCzarnywazd: if one get a sources for it..20:50
wazdApplications menu20:51
KotCzarnywazd: answer is 'not yet' probably20:51
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KotCzarnybut you're free to try and hack it20:51
KotCzarny:)20:51
wazd"My selection, Communication, Extra" and so on20:51
wazdI'm not a developer, I'm righting the request list to the developer :)20:52
KotCzarnyif you want less clicks just put all your favourite apps in the first category20:52
KotCzarny:)20:52
wazdnono :)20:53
Jaffawazd: tried reorganising it through Control Panel?20:53
* lcuk has bookreader and remote control in there20:53
wazdaw20:53
wazdDidn't think of that))20:53
Jaffawazd: All see "Personal Menu" (search on ITT) for a new task navigator plugin which will give you what you want20:53
KotCzarnylol20:53
wazdOne moment))20:53
wazdNooo)20:53
n800mthere's launcher20:53
wazdI'm actually working with Personal menu developer :)20:54
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wazdWe're trying to reorganize "Web" menu to the template that I've described here: http://tabletui.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/tablet-heart-web-browser-part-i/20:55
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wazdnope it's just possible to create a category on the left20:58
wazdWell, lets try to hack it :)20:59
KotCzarnybut it's not worth it20:59
KotCzarnyi mean scrolling is 'expensive'20:59
wazdWhere?)20:59
KotCzarnyyou have to click and wait untill it scrolls20:59
KotCzarnyit may seem like a second, but from usability point of view it's expensive21:00
wazdClick what?)21:00
wazdScroll what?)21:00
KotCzarnyscrolling icon21:00
KotCzarny:)21:00
KotCzarnyi have 5 categories having only 6 icons each and 6th has all the 'unused' icons21:00
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wazdAre you talking about Web Menu?)21:01
KotCzarnyabout app menu in general21:01
KotCzarnyit would be nice to have configurable heigh of menu items21:03
KotCzarnyheight21:03
wazdYes, best parts of Personal Menu will migrate to the Web menu :)21:03
wazdWell, talking about App Menu itself, I think that 34(35) quicklaunch shortcuts is more than enough for rapid using :)21:04
wazdyou can access 34 apps without scrolling with 2 clicks21:05
KotCzarny:)21:05
KotCzarnyyup21:05
wazdSo it's not as bad :)21:06
KotCzarnybut still, having a way to further customize it would be nice21:06
KotCzarny:)21:06
wazdYep, and that's why we got personal Menu :)21:06
wazdAnd what do you think bout Web Menu concept?21:07
wazdAny complains?)21:07
KotCzarnyi haven't used microb too much (yet)21:07
KotCzarnyso my web menu is untouched21:07
KotCzarny:)21:07
wazdpitty)21:10
KotCzarny'pity'21:10
KotCzarnypitty is squirrelish21:10
KotCzarny:)21:10
wazdaaah, who cares)))21:10
* KotCzarny <=--21:11
KotCzarny:)21:11
* wazd pretending that he uses N800 glitchy KB :)21:11
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KotCzarnyglitchy kb has backspace too21:12
KotCzarny:)21:12
n800mhttp://simple-launcher.garage.maemo.org/21:12
lcukall keyboards have an inbuilt evil bit.21:12
KotCzarnyn800m: no new news21:12
wazdglitchy kb has glitchy bckspace :)21:13
KotCzarnyand it still doesn't have transparent bg on n8x021:13
lcukit is normally activated if trying to fix other peoples spelling ;)21:13
n800myeah just curious if tthisd be different21:13
eichii want to code on a maemo project, but dont know, how to do that. i saw a vmware sdk image. but i dont want this closed app. what can i install on linux to code and compile for maemo?21:13
KotCzarnyeichi: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/21:14
KotCzarnyand click on sdk releases21:14
KotCzarnythen just get 2 scripts and run them21:14
KotCzarnyand you will have working sdk21:14
lcukthe vmware image is a great way to get started - it is just a linux image with scratchbox installed and runnable.  you can do it all yourself without linux but involves installing and configuring scratchbox compilation21:14
wazdWhat problem do you have with this evil closed source VMWare?)21:14
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lcukwithout vmware *21:15
KotCzarnyyeah, knowing that all important parts of maemo/nokia are closed too :)21:15
wazdVMPlayer is free21:15
lcukbut its not free21:15
lcukshocker21:15
* KotCzarny applies free shocker to lcuk21:15
lcukthx - my hair needed spiking21:16
KotCzarnythat hair?21:16
KotCzarny;)21:16
wazdWhy they have Media Player closed - dunno :)21:16
KotCzarny*those21:16
KotCzarny:)21:16
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KotCzarnywazd: they have closed weirdest parts21:16
lcukno need - i wear a murkin21:16
KotCzarnyfe. status bar :)21:16
wazdyep21:16
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lcukwireless drivers as well arent they21:17
wazdWi-Fi I guess21:17
wazdBT is accessible21:17
wazdcause there are 3rd party A2DP drivers21:18
eichiKotCzarny, can i run this as user and without any strange thinks, demaging my system?21:18
KotCzarnyeichi: i believe yes, as long you set proper mount points21:19
KotCzarny:)21:19
KotCzarnyit installs to one dir21:19
KotCzarnydoesn't touch anything else21:19
lcukif however you are afraid of damaging your system surely vmware would be a better angle ;)21:19
n800mman i really wanna try jott's rotation thing but im afraid i'll break it.21:20
KotCzarnythe only thing is that they doesn't allow to use it as root21:20
KotCzarny:)21:20
KotCzarnyn800m: do it.21:20
KotCzarnyit simply works21:20
KotCzarny:)21:20
eichii read the install script at the moment...but its a long one21:20
n800mmodified kernel sounds creepy to me21:22
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KotCzarnyn800m: then apply patch yourself21:22
KotCzarnyand compile it on your own21:22
KotCzarny:)21:22
KotCzarnyi did21:22
lcukby hand?21:22
n800mi'm newbish21:23
lcukusing a sliderule?21:23
KotCzarnyn800m: then just use precompiled one21:23
KotCzarnyremember that you can reflash whole thing anyway21:23
KotCzarnyin seconds21:23
KotCzarny:)21:23
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lcukyou can even (if i remember rightly)( flash the kernel just into memory and test - then when you reboot it loads the original one21:24
n800mbut how do i get the kernel, where do i put to  be able to use it21:24
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wazdis there a way to flash kernel under Win?)21:24
n800mi can't just open it and i duuno where it goes21:24
n800mthe patch imean21:24
KotCzarnywazd: you can flash directly in n8x021:24
KotCzarnyit takes few seconds21:25
KotCzarny:)21:25
wazdDamn)21:25
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KotCzarnyno external pc needed21:25
KotCzarny:)21:25
lcukjust a vmware image ;)21:25
wazddidn't know bout that :)21:25
KotCzarnywazd: yeah, it only needs padding and mtdtools21:26
KotCzarny:)21:26
KotCzarnygoogle for fanoush scripts :)21:26
KotCzarnythen it's as simple as ./kernel-flash zImage-name21:26
KotCzarny:)21:26
wazdDescribing ideas is sooo difficult :)21:27
wazdSo many details to mention. For good UX21:27
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n800mfanoush's patcges are just code21:35
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n80oi can't do it, i'm missing something21:53
KotCzarnydo what?21:53
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n800musicflashing21:54
KotCzarnyhow do you try to do it?21:54
n800musicflasher not found it says21:54
KotCzarnywhat says21:54
n800musicxterm21:54
n800musicone sec21:55
KotCzarnytry ./ before command21:55
KotCzarnyand run it from jffs2/ext partition21:55
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KotCzarnynot vfat21:55
n800musichttp://sse2.net/rotate/21:55
n800musick21:55
n800music./ worked i think21:56
n800musicno it didnt21:57
KotCzarnypastebin.com21:57
jotti just updated the kernel on sse2.net/rotate/21:59
KotCzarnyjott: what are the changes?21:59
jottno xv should work again21:59
KotCzarnyis patch updated too?22:00
jottah no..22:00
jottsec22:00
KotCzarny:)22:00
jottk22:01
KotCzarnythx22:01
jottactually it's just reverts a change i made22:01
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KotCzarnybtw. you can use l |= 0x03 operator22:02
n800music:(22:02
KotCzarnydoesn't matter much but is a little cleaner22:03
KotCzarny:)22:03
Jaffajott: have you still got vala deps for maemo somewhere?22:03
KotCzarnyjott: but it works with blanking?22:04
jottKotCzarny: ah yeah this is part of the original patch :) but you are right22:05
jottKotCzarny: should be yes..22:05
jottJaffa: i think so..22:05
KotCzarnyjott: you have not tested it? :)22:05
Jaffajott: URL I dug out of the logs 404ed22:05
n800musicis there a very dumbed down guide for rotation?22:06
jottKotCzarny: well i've had no problems with blanking  :)22:06
KotCzarnyn800: yes, it's on that page22:06
KotCzarnyjott: ok :)22:06
n800musicdumber22:06
KotCzarny  |> Day-O (The Banana Boat Song) - Harry Belafonte (Pure Gold)22:06
jottn800music: feel free to say what you do not understand - i can change it22:07
KotCzarnyn800: how do you try to flash the kernel?22:07
KotCzarnyjott: put a link to some kernel flashing howto22:07
KotCzarny:>22:07
jottit's all hidden in the links on the page :)22:07
BabelOhi jott, you are here too ;)22:07
jottBabelO: hehe yeah22:08
KotCzarnyadd a css to make links font-size: 200%;22:08
KotCzarny;)22:08
n800musickotczarny  links to firums are horrible as guides22:08
n800musicespecially reading on n80022:08
KotCzarnyn800: you have not answered my question22:09
n800musicforums i mean22:09
KotCzarnytwice already22:09
KotCzarnyhow do you expect any help then?22:09
n800musici really don't22:09
n800musicthanks tho22:09
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KotCzarnylol22:10
jottJaffa: http://sse2.net/vala/22:11
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aVirulenceHi, can someone tell me if there's a telepathy connection manager available for maemo for IRC and/or MSN (I mean telepathy-butterfly)?22:14
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wom-there is telepathy-haze22:22
wom-it has msn22:22
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wom-aVirulence: http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/22:23
wom-aVirulence: and service list has Irc when configuring accounts. haven't tried it though22:24
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aVirulencewom-, thanks a lot, that looks promising!22:25
wom-aVirulence: np :)22:25
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wom-that irc service seems to work22:31
wom-i don't know how to join channel with it but at least privmsg comes to my N810 like any chat :)22:31
KotCzarnylol22:32
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wom-kinda cool :)22:32
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cLinanyone familiar with the jquery javascript library?22:42
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aVirulenceok, I'm giving it a shot22:51
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jessevdkhi, I'm running OS2006 (n770) and tried to install python2.5-runtime, upon 'import hildon' I get: ImportError: /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_atomic_int_compare_and_exchange22:52
jessevdkhas anyone seen this  before?22:52
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KotCzarnylibs mismatch22:53
KotCzarnyhave you forced any libs recently?22:53
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jessevdkno22:53
KotCzarnyadded weird repos?22:53
jessevdkI had some weird repos maybe22:54
jessevdkbut that's not where I got python2.5 from22:54
jessevdkcan't imagine that libgobject-2.0 is the wrong version22:54
KotCzarnyit's a problem with gtk2 lib22:54
KotCzarnynot with python i think22:54
KotCzarnygobject belongs to gtk222:54
KotCzarny(or glib2)22:54
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jessevdkI know22:54
jessevdkhmm... I have libgobject-2.0.so.0.800.622:55
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jessevdkthat's also what I have in scratchbox22:55
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jessevdkcopying it from scratchbox seems to have worked23:08
jessevdkdo any of you guys also know wether maybe GtkCellRendererText won't render bold or italic text?23:08
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jessevdkis this something the theme just doesn't support, or the font?23:09
KotCzarnyhttp://fishki.net/comment.php?id=3250923:10
KotCzarny(off-topic)23:10
KotCzarnydon't click if weak nerves :)23:10
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jessevdkhmm, none of the settings seems to work23:18
jessevdkmaybe I'm just doing something wrong23:18
jessevdkah yes23:19
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jessevdkfixed, seems you need set_property instead of setting the values on the attribute23:26
BabelOhi, does someone know if there is a tool to use n800 as a bluetooth speaker for a mobile phone ?23:26
BabelOif it is a2dp, that is better :)23:26
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BabelOno idea ? no application ;)23:30
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