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| dpryo | Somebody have a kernel for nokia 770 with support for usb-webcam? | 00:23 |
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| czr | silly bugs.. | 00:36 |
| * czr curses at bug #2075 | 00:36 | |
| _Monkey | Bug 2075 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2075 | 00:36 |
| czr | I know damn it. just re-opened it. | 00:36 |
| rwhitby | _Monkey: die | 00:37 |
| _Monkey | rwhitby: what? | 00:37 |
| * rwhitby can't stand bots that speak without being spoken too | 00:37 | |
| czr | heh, you too. | 00:38 |
| dpryo | Is it cumbersome to setup scratchbox for kernel compiling? | 00:42 |
| dpryo | My robot/car needs eyes :) http://nesland.net/zen/phidgetsonwheels | 00:42 |
| xand | cool | 00:44 |
| dpryo | It's almost done, got a client app that uses sdl_joystick as input, and sends the information to the 770 via wlan, that controls the motors | 00:45 |
| * flip^ launches the vmware appliance and wonders just what to do with it | 00:45 | |
| dpryo | Would be cool to actually see where it's going ;P | 00:46 |
| flip^ | anyone care to offer a few thoughts on how i can go from opening the appliance to something that actually does something maemo-ish ;) | 00:47 |
| czr | dpryo, not very, at least for N800 | 00:48 |
| dpryo | I do have scratchbox setup for some compiling though.. | 00:49 |
| czr | dpryo, which device are you building for? | 00:50 |
| dpryo | But I doubt make menuconfig && make dep in a standard tree works out of the box ;P | 00:50 |
| dpryo | czr: 770 | 00:50 |
| czr | ah, then I don't know, guess the maemo.org site contains some stuff on that. | 00:50 |
| dpryo | I'm reading this kernel compile howto | 00:50 |
| dpryo | but it's a bit old, so it doesn't really describe the current sbox | 00:50 |
| czr | any ideas on how to get contents from tcpdump dump, in which the traffic is HTTP but with gzip-transfer encoding? :-) | 00:50 |
| dpryo | gunzip? :) | 00:51 |
| czr | neh. the data is split over multiple packets | 00:51 |
| Atarii | ettercap or wireshark | 00:51 |
| * czr wishes into existance a plugin for wireshark that would do this automagically | 00:51 | |
| czr | Atarii, they don't do deflate/gunzip on transfer-encoded http, do they? | 00:52 |
| czr | that's the point. | 00:52 |
| czr | the tcpdump was saved from wireshark. | 00:52 |
| Atarii | o ok | 00:52 |
| Atarii | u can do it with a ettercap plugin, but before capture | 00:52 |
| Atarii | filter* | 00:52 |
| czr | hmm. is the plugin part of ettercap tarball? | 00:54 |
| pupnik | ignore, rwhitby | 00:54 |
| Atarii | u need to make an ettercap filter | 00:55 |
| czr | meh. | 00:55 |
| czr | I thought you said one existed :-) | 00:55 |
| Atarii | they do | 00:55 |
| Atarii | one sec | 00:55 |
| dpryo | czr: You can do it with wireshark, find the request, right click and follow tcp stream, save the stream as raw, and gunzip it | 00:55 |
| Atarii | http://ettercap.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2833 | 00:55 |
| dpryo | (you might need to remove some of the uncompressed text from the raw file) | 00:56 |
| czr | dpryo, the problem is that the deflated stuff is within responses, not headers and such | 00:56 |
| czr | ah. I see | 00:56 |
| czr | well, let me try that | 00:56 |
| czr | trying to debug a browser bug in N800 | 00:56 |
| czr | and the site is sending the content in gzip TE | 00:56 |
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| czr | "not in gzip format". oh my. | 00:58 |
| Atarii | ? | 00:58 |
| dpryo | hm, worked fine for me | 00:58 |
| czr | must be cutting from wrong places. | 00:58 |
| dpryo | Remember, do a raw dump and not hex or ascii ;P | 00:59 |
| czr | I did | 00:59 |
| czr | http://koltsoff.com/bugs/n800/2095-raw-http.txt if anyone would like to take a peek | 01:00 |
| czr | doesn't contain any sensitive data | 01:00 |
| dpryo | hm, you're right. That didn't work | 01:01 |
| czr | hmm. I'm wondering whether the "Transfer-Encoding: Chunked" is significant here | 01:02 |
| czr | the content-encoding is gzip though. | 01:02 |
| czr | the nasty bit is that nokia has put some kind of browser recognition to "protect" the tableteer | 01:03 |
| Atarii | wat did u try which didnt work? | 01:03 |
| czr | Atarii, what dpryo suggested | 01:03 |
| dpryo | ah, cracked it. | 01:03 |
| czr | dpryo, what was it? | 01:04 |
| dpryo | It's the whole/normal html | 01:04 |
| dpryo | php -r 'echo gzinflate(file_get_contents("2095-raw-http.txt"));' ;P | 01:04 |
| czr | that's evil :-) | 01:04 |
| czr | that explains it. meh. it's not gzip. it's deflate. | 01:05 |
| czr | or hmm. let me try that | 01:05 |
| czr | dpryo, meh, my php is unhappy. can you put the result up somewhere? | 01:07 |
| czr | pastebin is ok too | 01:07 |
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| dpryo | http://ondskap.net/2095-raw-http_inflated.txt | 01:13 |
| czr | aha! | 01:14 |
| czr | thanks a lot, you're a star | 01:14 |
| czr | it's not a bug in the browser after all | 01:14 |
| czr | it's a bloody broken webpage! :-) | 01:14 |
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| czr | Atarii, the ettercap filtering would have required for traffic to be passed through ettercap | 01:21 |
| czr | and it would removed the 'gzip' from the request | 01:21 |
| czr | so not really a solution in this case, but nice to know for future. | 01:21 |
| Atarii | maybe wud hav worked when using live data | 01:22 |
| czr | no. it would have required for the data to pass through ettercap | 01:22 |
| czr | which I cannot do (running off port-mirror from a switch, with the wlan AP being mirrored) | 01:23 |
| Atarii | aaaa ok | 01:23 |
| Atarii | unless u used arp spoofing | 01:23 |
| czr | although small arp-redirection could have fixed that, but rather not do that unless I want to trip alarms | 01:23 |
| czr | indeed. | 01:23 |
| Atarii | :p | 01:23 |
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| czr | is there a webmaster address for the tableteer pages? | 01:24 |
| czr | nevermind. | 01:33 |
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| czr | night -> | 01:40 |
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| sully | Hey guys, just an FYI: I've set up a more tablet-friendly interface for the Internet Tablet Talk Forums at http://blog.yllus.com/itt/ | 02:24 |
| Atarii | nice | 02:25 |
| Atarii | anyway to hav a quick link to new posts? | 02:26 |
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| sully | hmm, I'll add it as a to-do item because I'm sick of PHP for today | 02:27 |
| sully | haha | 02:27 |
| Atarii | :p | 02:27 |
| flip^ | is it possible to get man (and the man pages for various stuff) onto a n800? | 02:39 |
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| imBen | Howdy | 03:15 |
| _Monkey | hola, imBen | 03:15 |
| imBen | Help? | 03:15 |
| imBen | Help the cubs beat the diamond backs | 03:17 |
| imBen | thi sis my problem... | 03:25 |
| imBen | http://www.imben.net/iw/badunmount.jpg | 03:25 |
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| rlifchitz | imBen: the right command is "umount" | 03:44 |
| rlifchitz | not "unmount" | 03:44 |
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| imBen | lol | 04:56 |
| imBen | thanks :) | 04:56 |
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| Tb0n3 | HOLY FUCKING SHIT | 07:07 |
| Tb0n3 | errrr | 07:07 |
| Tb0n3 | woops | 07:07 |
| Tb0n3 | new camera is full of awsome | 07:07 |
| Tb0n3 | sorry | 07:07 |
| Luria_ | anyone recommend a quick and dirty php voting script with multiple choices? | 07:13 |
| Luria_ | oss script | 07:14 |
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| unique311 | question, How do i set mplayer to open everything.... | 08:23 |
| unique311 | vids, stream links from the net. | 08:23 |
| unique311 | everything.. | 08:23 |
| _Monkey | everything is executable too | 08:23 |
| unique311 | really tired of file format not supported. | 08:24 |
| zerojay | You'd have to edit the MIME types. | 08:24 |
| unique311 | edit mime types for mplayer | 08:25 |
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| Dawnmist | osso-xterm: the 16 colour range has the same shade being used for both black and "bright black". Is there any way to change "bright black" to be a dark grey in between black and the normal grey shade? | 09:59 |
| Dawnmist | http://inz.fi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/shot-2007-05-15-14-14-01.png | 09:59 |
| Dawnmist | Shows the 16 standard colours - need the colour below black to be 1/2 way between black and the grey at the end of the top line. | 09:59 |
| Dawnmist | (as is more normal for 'bright black') | 10:01 |
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| syosof1 | hi, 770 owner here, writing from it. Ihave a 2gb card that i had working at 1 time....now says corrupt. Instructions for formatting (i already have root)? | 10:13 |
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| syosof1 | Hi? | 10:19 |
| _Monkey | How ya doin' syosof1? | 10:19 |
| syosof1 | Ok,u? | 10:20 |
| syosof1 | I just have 2gb i cant ust ;/ | 10:20 |
| syosof1 | Hi? | 10:20 |
| _Monkey | How ya doin' syosof1? | 10:20 |
| syosof1 | Figured bot ( | 10:21 |
| syosof1 | /timestamps | 10:21 |
| syosof1 | /Join #help | 10:21 |
| unique311 | zerojay: mimetypes. I | 10:33 |
| unique311 | a link maybe on how to edit this on maemo.. | 10:33 |
| syosof1 | So iws thinking about u the p | 10:34 |
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| syosof1 | Forgive my type im on the 770 and havent found tthe thum | 10:36 |
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| syosof1 | b keybboard | 10:36 |
| unique311 | don't you just have to press on the screen with your fingers.. | 10:37 |
| unique311 | and the thumb keyboard appears | 10:37 |
| unique311 | yeah that should work | 10:38 |
| unique311 | works over here on the n800 | 10:38 |
| c0ffee | you have to press with your finger in an input field iirc | 10:38 |
| unique311 | c0ffee: you know how i can go about changing modifying mime types, so mplayer starts instead of the default media player for an rtsp:// link | 10:39 |
| unique311 | anyone? | 10:39 |
| syosof1 | All i get is the little keyboard | 10:40 |
| unique311 | try using your thumb... | 10:41 |
| unique311 | fingerprint part of it.. | 10:41 |
| syosof1 | Although i did come across the big one when i put the 770 in my pocket :) | 10:41 |
| unique311 | the whole fingerprint.. | 10:41 |
| unique311 | thumbprint i guess when saying thumb | 10:42 |
| syosof1 | Yup that works | 10:43 |
| unique311 | cool | 10:43 |
| syosof1 | I feel kina stupit | 10:43 |
| unique311 | i need help.. | 10:43 |
| unique311 | can you help me with my problems. | 10:43 |
| syosof1 | So, any ideas on how to format this2gb card? | 10:46 |
| syosof1 | And is tvere a way to send frpm the thumb keyboard? | 10:46 |
| Dawnmist | On the N800, the square key in the middle of the dpad also toggles the keyboard into thumb-mode | 10:47 |
| Dawnmist | On toggling back, whatever you typed is passed through. | 10:47 |
| syosof1 | Ill try but i havent eally used this thing even thou ive owned it for months | 10:48 |
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| syosof1 | Ah ok, middle button sends | 10:50 |
| syosof1 | Much easier | 10:50 |
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| t_s_o | hmm, have anyone else ran into a error with opera in 2006 where some of the stuff entered using the thumb-board gets doubled at the end of the text? | 10:51 |
| zuh | Yes, I've seen that | 10:51 |
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| t_s_o | i wonder if thats still around in 2007he | 10:52 |
| t_s_o | as its, to put it mildly, annoying... | 10:52 |
| syosof1 | Apparenyly the rocker closs or cashes gaim | 10:52 |
| t_s_o | try pidgin | 10:52 |
| syosof1 | Nice, pidgin has a 770 port? | 10:53 |
| t_s_o | yep, may take some repo wrangling but works fine imo | 10:54 |
| t_s_o | sadly, its not the latest and greatest, so you may get a message to update ever so often | 10:54 |
| syosof1 | Hrm... Trying to keep it simple atm. Formatting is first on the agenda. | 10:56 |
| syosof1 | 2gb orks on 2006, right? | 10:58 |
| t_s_o | no clue | 10:58 |
| syosof1 | I swear i had it working before... | 10:59 |
| t_s_o | isnt there a format option in the file browser? | 10:59 |
| syosof1 | How do i find os version? | 10:59 |
| t_s_o | sadly my 770 has a wsod so i cant check | 10:59 |
| t_s_o | think its in the settings area somewhere. it should say in the manual | 10:59 |
| syosof1 | Rtfm, eh? | 11:00 |
| t_s_o | something like that :) | 11:00 |
| syosof1 | File mgr just says "no memory card inserted" butt when i put it in it throws a not formatted or corrupt msg | 11:02 |
| syosof1 | Ghetto ;} | 11:02 |
| t_s_o | tools -> control panel -> device -> about product... | 11:03 |
| syosof1 | Thanks for the hand holding ;) it is os 2006... | 11:05 |
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| t_s_o | the 770 file manager holds a format option under "memory card" in its menu... | 11:08 |
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| syosof1 | Wouldnt know memory card is grayed out as file manager doesnt think on is iserted | 11:11 |
| t_s_o | hmm... | 11:12 |
| syosof1 | Yae kinda sucks... Still getthat message when i insert and close the cover | 11:13 |
| t_s_o | well i have no clue. maybe something on internettablettalk? | 11:15 |
| syosof1 | As in the chan? | 11:16 |
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| t_s_o | forum | 11:16 |
| t_s_o | http://www.internettablettalk.com/ | 11:16 |
| syosof1 | Gotcha | 11:17 |
| syosof1 | Grrr cant click-launch that url. Giam is saying somethig about manual browser selection | 11:20 |
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| syosof1 | Tryying to follow http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ExtendedRootFilesystem | 11:31 |
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| unique311 | iphone.facebook.com looks really good on microb... | 11:42 |
| unique311 | works * | 11:42 |
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| syosof1 | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Partition_your_MMC_card anyone familar with that? I did it all and i can see one ~480mb "memory card" but not the second partiti as the last 770 related command fails | 11:57 |
| syosof1 | mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmc2 | 11:57 |
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| kpel | hi all | 12:07 |
| disq | yeah iphone.facebook is good tho i always prefer the normal facebook ui | 12:13 |
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| t_s_o | interesting how soon iphone-specific pages shows up | 12:27 |
| t_s_o | do apple really have that much "power"? | 12:27 |
| disq | it's just hype | 12:29 |
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| t_s_o | disq: hype or not, they still get more "presence" then most other corps in the field... | 12:34 |
| czr | they have disproportionate amount of community good-will | 12:35 |
| czr | having been seen as the "renegades" so many years (and they did make quite nice hardware), it's not too suprising. | 12:35 |
| czr | at least that's how I see it. | 12:35 |
| t_s_o | heh, renegades... | 12:35 |
| czr | os x isn't too bad either. esp for developers, etc. | 12:35 |
| czr | t_s_o, compared to ms, obviously :-) | 12:35 |
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| disq | i'll get a macbook myself soon, but never liked i* | 12:36 |
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| czr | I haven't used the recent hw, but used to install linux into hw quite regularly some years back | 12:37 |
| czr | still have couple of cubes humming away | 12:37 |
| disq | i didn't use linux on desktop since, well. 1999 or so | 12:38 |
| disq | or haven't used, rather | 12:38 |
| czr | sure. people have different needs and tastes, so.. | 12:38 |
| disq | when i used i loved gnome but rarely used it. was more comfortable with cli | 12:39 |
| t_s_o | the thing i find most interesting is this, apple comes out with a closed device, and everyone and their pet seems to want to hack it, sony comes with one, and people go shoping for a less restricted device... | 12:40 |
| disq | yeah | 12:41 |
| czr | the apple device just looks better. | 12:41 |
| disq | not to forget sony has fanboys too, maybe just not as IT-oriented as apple | 12:41 |
| czr | (and apple has an army of fanboys) | 12:42 |
| Dawnmist | Does anyone know if there is a terminal for the N800 that defines 'bright black' as dark-grey rather than black? | 12:42 |
| czr | disq, or maybe they're all in japan? | 12:42 |
| pupnik_ | on desktop linux this is configurable somewhere | 12:43 |
| disq | still being the renegades in the industry (is it still true? everybody has a macbook in the US nowadays) probably help on the fanboyism | 12:43 |
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| disq | Dawnmist: no idea but wouldn't count on it. inz would know how to get that effect on xterm tho | 12:44 |
| czr | disq, maybe it's the glowing log on the laptops :-) | 12:45 |
| czr | logo even | 12:45 |
| czr | I don't know. they must be doing something right. | 12:45 |
| czr | or pushing huge amount of cash into whatever they're doing. | 12:45 |
| czr | but that only helps so far. | 12:45 |
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| t_s_o | everyone loves being nonconformist, as long as they can be part of the group ;) | 12:52 |
| t_s_o | so maybe its a cult, the cult of the fruit | 12:52 |
| t_s_o | still, i think its the pod that have gotten them the mindshare they are currently floating on | 12:53 |
| pupnik_ | Dawnmist: on debian linux PC you control with /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt | 12:53 |
| kpel | i think they are just throwing a lot of money on everything they are doing until it snowballs and yields a profit. | 12:57 |
| * czr agrees with t_s_o | 12:58 | |
| t_s_o | i just wonder what kind of result the european launch of the iphone will have... | 12:59 |
| czr | more muted I'd expect | 12:59 |
| t_s_o | damn, why did i forget about the word "fashion". | 13:01 |
| czr | it's unfashionable? | 13:01 |
| t_s_o | no, that the apple logo have become a fashion | 13:01 |
| t_s_o | that if they where to print it onto t-shits they could probably sell it 10x the normal price... | 13:02 |
| czr | hmm. I've finally succeeded at one goals in life. | 13:05 |
| czr | I now dominate the first results page of google with my name :-) | 13:06 |
| * czr drinks some coffee to celebrate. | 13:06 | |
| pupnik_ | xterm? | 13:07 |
| _Monkey | xterm is the enhanced version of osso-xterm from maemo-hackers. It adds font and color selection support, URL opening through context menu, and a sidebar with additional keys such as Ctrl+letters. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/osso-xterm-advanced or http://dastych.sh.cvut.cz/~jtra/download/maemo/xterm/debs/ for an alternate onscreen keyboard | 13:07 |
| Dawnmist | That's what I'm using. | 13:08 |
| Dawnmist | The problem is the definition of the 'bright black' colour | 13:08 |
| Dawnmist | http://inz.fi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/shot-2007-05-15-14-14-01.png | 13:08 |
| Dawnmist | shows what the colour is - the one in the system colours under the black | 13:08 |
| pupnik_ | strange, that maemo.org shows 0.13.mh19 and i have 0.13.mh24 on 770 | 13:08 |
| pupnik_ | yesh i saw that | 13:09 |
| Dawnmist | http://frexx.de/xterm-256-notes/img/256colors2.png | 13:09 |
| Dawnmist | shows what that colour *should* be | 13:09 |
| pupnik_ | did you file bugreport? | 13:09 |
| Dawnmist | Can't. It won't accept/file the report | 13:09 |
| Dawnmist | I can preview it - but not send it. | 13:10 |
| zerojay | Bugzilla doesn't have a preview. | 13:10 |
| czr | enable cookies? | 13:10 |
| Dawnmist | And without it, lots of monsters + the black market are invisible in angband | 13:10 |
| czr | and that too :-) | 13:10 |
| Dawnmist | zerojay: but inz uses trak, and it does have a preview | 13:10 |
| zerojay | Oh. Trak sucks. | 13:11 |
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| disq | why does it suck? it's just slow, anything else? | 13:13 |
| Dawnmist | It won't let me enter a bug-report :P | 13:14 |
| zerojay | I just hate the whole layout of it. | 13:14 |
| zerojay | More complex than it needs to be. | 13:14 |
| disq | it's useful for developers. if no anonymous tickets are allowed that's a configuration issue :) | 13:15 |
| disq | i think you can allow it | 13:16 |
| disq | never administered trac tho | 13:16 |
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| Dawnmist | *lol* - with no ability to create a login, and no anonymous tickets, there's no way to file a bug report. | 13:16 |
| Dawnmist | I guess it keeps things quiet :P | 13:16 |
| czr | sounds like a dream system to me :-) | 13:17 |
| czr | question: does it make sense to use the GLib bindings for D-Bus instead of libosso now that they work(?) in new releases? | 13:19 |
| pupnik_ | account problem on maemo.org Dawnmist ? | 13:19 |
| czr | pupnik_, you can't login either? | 13:19 |
| pupnik_ | or somewhere else | 13:20 |
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| czr | I registered yesterday, could access garage, but not maemo.org | 13:20 |
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| kpel | had the same problem | 13:23 |
| czr | ok. must be something wrong with the site config then | 13:23 |
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| kpel | actually i cannot access anything. maemo or garage. if i try to reactivate my account by folloing the link to the email i received i get the message "account already active" so something else is wrong | 13:28 |
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| czr | could be related | 13:29 |
| czr | you probably had an account before yesterday, so we'd see the problem differently I guess. | 13:29 |
| czr | any takers for the d-bus/glib-question? | 13:30 |
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| TPC | hello | 13:31 |
| TPC | I left my N800 on by mistake, and the batteries drained | 13:31 |
| TPC | after loading it it works fine again, with one exception | 13:31 |
| TPC | wifi refuses to work | 13:31 |
| TPC | it worked fine before this happened, but now it won't find my network when scanning | 13:31 |
| czr | does it see other any networks? | 13:31 |
| TPC | no | 13:31 |
| czr | did it see before? | 13:32 |
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| TPC | and usually it picks up several of my neighbors | 13:32 |
| czr | ok | 13:32 |
| * czr has no idea actually. | 13:32 | |
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| czr | maybe you should report the bug? or scan bugzilla for similar ones? | 13:32 |
| TPC | yeah, thats probably a good idea | 13:32 |
| czr | you could always reflash if all else fails (like removing the battery and attaching it back, etc) | 13:32 |
| czr | that _should_ fix it. it's still a bug though. | 13:33 |
| czr | if that doesn't fix it, then something is borken at hw-level. | 13:33 |
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| t_s_o | http://www.banksy.co.uk/drawing/images/fallofman.gif | 13:40 |
| kpel | do you know how to make xterm display colors? after modifying .bashrc i get the error '-sh: /root/.bashrc: dircolors: not found' when i login | 13:40 |
| kpel | I have intentionaly drained the battery of my N800 a couple of times but didn't see the problem you described. try reflashing it. | 13:41 |
| czr | t_s_o, heh | 13:42 |
| TPC | czr, removing the battery and attatching it again fixed it | 13:43 |
| TPC | altought I fail to see what that does that a power cycle doesn't | 13:43 |
| TPC | thanks for the tip | 13:43 |
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| czr | the battery forms a full electronic circuit within the system. removing it cuts that circuit. so you might assume that it's more of an reset than just power on/power off | 13:46 |
| czr | I could also say it's a "nokia thing". can't even remember the times when I needed to reset a phone by removing a battery and putting it back into place :-) | 13:46 |
| czr | but then again I guess most portable devices with batteries are like that nowadays. | 13:47 |
| zerojay | czr: I do. | 13:47 |
| czr | zerojay, unless we're getting married real soon now, what does 'I do' relate to? :-) | 13:47 |
| zerojay | Removing the battery. | 13:48 |
| * czr is still missing some syntax | 13:48 | |
| zerojay | nm | 13:48 |
| czr | ok | 13:48 |
| czr | you mean counting the times? | 13:48 |
| zerojay | yep | 13:48 |
| kpel | is there a bash package for N800? | 13:54 |
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| Argiris | A linux distro for COMPAQ ipaq h3900??? | 14:10 |
| zerojay | no? | 14:10 |
| Argiris | Sorry,I mean do you know A linux distro for COMPAQ ipaq h3900??? | 14:11 |
| kpel | wrong room i guess | 14:12 |
| kpel | try google | 14:12 |
| czr | hmm. noticed that the dbus package on the device is at 0.61-osso28. I assume then that this is before the 1.0 D-Bus launch last year? | 14:13 |
| zerojay | I believe we'll get dbus 1.0 in Chinook. | 14:14 |
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| czr | ok | 14:14 |
| czr | zerojay, you know whether using libosso for d-bus is more sane than using glib for d-bus? (for 0.61) | 14:14 |
| zerojay | Sorry, can't say i do. | 14:14 |
| disq | i'd go with libosso when i can. but it doesn't support certain things | 14:15 |
| czr | i.e., what would be the recommended way. | 14:15 |
| czr | disq, why not glib? | 14:15 |
| disq | because the maemo dbus is ancient | 14:15 |
| czr | (just curious mind you, have no opinion on this) | 14:15 |
| czr | ah, so the glib-bindings for 3.2 are old, did I understand correctly? | 14:16 |
| * pupnik works on xu4 and nothing else today | 14:16 | |
| czr | pupnik, xu4? | 14:16 |
| disq | i think the glib bindings are newer than the dbus itself. not sure | 14:16 |
| disq | they work to some extent, but most of the docs you find on the net don't really apply | 14:16 |
| czr | hmm. the package versions are the same (0.61-osso28), but that's not saying much. | 14:17 |
| czr | disq, ok. fun fun fun then. | 14:17 |
| disq | yeah. :/ | 14:17 |
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| czr | so either way one is screwed when chinook comes out | 14:17 |
| czr | which is always nice :-) | 14:18 |
| disq | i'm guessing libosso would be less problematic | 14:18 |
| czr | they're bound to break it, I'm pretty sure :-) | 14:19 |
| * czr continues to do some digging then | 14:19 | |
| czr | I have a pile of stuff that supposedly should work on 3.2 (code and documentation), but aren't feeling overly optimistic about it | 14:19 |
| czr | hence the questions. anticipate running into issues and I can still redo a lot of the stuff. the target is 3.2 though, and I don't have anything to test chinook stuff with anyway | 14:20 |
| * suihkulokki notices czr allways appears when a new software version is comming out | 14:21 | |
| czr | suihkulokki, heh. actually I had a long break not being involved in this stuff. | 14:23 |
| czr | trying to get up to speed. very very quickly. | 14:23 |
| czr | suihkulokki, 1.0 was the last version I did anything for | 14:24 |
| czr | that leaves many many versions in between | 14:24 |
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| czr | hmm. osso_application_set_top_cb and unset_top_cb are marked for deprecation, and one should use "osso_rpc"-functions instead. which functions, and if this is being replaced by signals coming over the d-bus, then which signals specifically and how can signals be subscribed to in libosso? | 14:40 |
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| disq | oh btw if you come across sample python code to broadcast a dbus message could you pass it along :) | 14:43 |
| czr | I wish I'd be doing something with python, alas no | 14:43 |
| czr | maybe later | 14:43 |
| czr | libosso doxygen also is bit weird. osso_application_name_get and osso_application_version_get are not documented (other than prototypes) and are located under "Autosaving". useful.. | 14:47 |
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| alterego | You can just use the dbus calls. | 14:55 |
| czr | alterego, yup. what's the convention then? reuse the connection that libosso has already opened, or open a new one, separate from libosso? | 14:56 |
| czr | (assuming one uses libosso for other stuff) | 14:56 |
| alterego | You can only have one connection I believe. | 14:56 |
| czr | uhm. so how not to trip libosso then? | 14:57 |
| alterego | Which does create a problem, I don't think you can get a handle on the connection that osso creates .. | 14:57 |
| czr | indeed | 14:57 |
| alterego | Though, interestingly enough. OSSO is kind of pointless in my mind. | 14:57 |
| czr | or even if I could, I'd have to undo all kinds of stuff that libosso did | 14:57 |
| alterego | It's not hard to do exactly what libosso does at the start of your app. | 14:57 |
| czr | it does have convenience stuff that is.. well, convenient. | 14:58 |
| alterego | It doesn't do much ^_^ | 14:58 |
| alterego | Sure, | 14:58 |
| alterego | It would be more convenient if you could get the dbus connection ;) | 14:58 |
| alterego | Actually .. | 14:58 |
| czr | hmm. why can't I get more than one? | 14:59 |
| alterego | I thought that was how D-Bus works. | 14:59 |
| czr | hmm. that'd be rather limiting from their part | 15:00 |
| czr | at least with libdbus. not sure about the glib-wrappers | 15:00 |
| alterego | Why would you need more than one connection? | 15:00 |
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| czr | to use d-bus for signals and libosso for convenience. | 15:00 |
| czr | libosso opens system and session buses on init. | 15:01 |
| czr | and yes, I remember that you said I should ditch libosso altogether. which would solve this problem. | 15:01 |
| czr | but still. | 15:01 |
| alterego | Okay, maybe you can open multiple connections. | 15:01 |
| alterego | In which case, you can use dbus outside of osso. | 15:02 |
| czr | yes. | 15:02 |
| czr | that was the intent. | 15:02 |
| czr | so that signal stuff could be done there directly. | 15:02 |
| czr | but I'll need to dig deeper. | 15:02 |
| alterego | Right | 15:02 |
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| alterego | Aha, if you've already opened a connection to a specific address, then the connection object returned by dbus_connection_open is the same. | 15:04 |
| czr | anyone have ideas whether submitting patches against libosso (in order to correct doxygen documentation) makes sense (targetting 3.2), since 4.0 is so near? | 15:04 |
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| czr | alterego, makes sense. | 15:04 |
| alterego | That's probably why I was getting confused ^_^ | 15:05 |
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| alterego | Though, you can open a "private" connection. Which will be a different handle. | 15:05 |
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| czr | good to know | 15:05 |
| * czr has never done anything with d-bus before | 15:06 | |
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| czr | hence the stupid questions. | 15:06 |
| alterego | Yeah, it's an interesting beast. | 15:06 |
| alterego | The d-bus site is pretty informative. | 15:06 |
| czr | there's no docs on the glib/dbus-wrapper for 3.2 | 15:06 |
| czr | alterego, yeah, been reading it. | 15:07 |
| alterego | With API documentation and some good descriptive overviews. | 15:07 |
| alterego | The glib dbus API is on the dbus website. | 15:07 |
| alterego | That's not a maemo thing. | 15:07 |
| czr | alterego, for older releases as well? | 15:07 |
| alterego | It's a dbus thing. | 15:07 |
| czr | yeah, but maemo ships 0.61 | 15:07 |
| alterego | Oh, right. | 15:07 |
| alterego | Not sure about that. | 15:07 |
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| czr | hmm. the latest version of binding is 0.74 | 15:09 |
| czr | which seems slightly weird. I know that d-bus uses their own version numbering for libdbus and wrappers have their own | 15:10 |
| czr | but why do the packages have all the same versions in maemo and the device? | 15:10 |
| alterego | Don't know :) | 15:10 |
| czr | i.e., what is the true version number of dbus and dbusglib on the device and maemo | 15:10 |
| * czr hates when silly things like this crop up | 15:10 | |
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| alterego | Is it really that important? | 15:11 |
| czr | it is when you're trying to understand what will work and what will not | 15:11 |
| pupnik | one interesting approach might be hacking sdl's mod play ability or mikmod to implement a subset of midi | 15:11 |
| pupnik | oop wrong chan | 15:11 |
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| ekim|irc_ | What do you get with 2007 hacker edition that you don't get with the latest 770 fw ? | 15:24 |
| flip^ | hmm, is there a python 2.4 still out there for os2007? I keep finding things that need it, despite me having 2.5 installed | 15:26 |
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| alterego | ekim|irc_, compatibility with N800 software | 15:32 |
| alterego | flip^, you might be able to force the install | 15:32 |
| flip^ | but stuff looks in the 2.4 paths for python sometimes :( | 15:33 |
| alterego | Sounds like rubbish coding. | 15:33 |
| alterego | Doesn't Python know it's own site directories? | 15:33 |
| alterego | site and library locations .. | 15:33 |
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| ekim|irc_ | export PYTHONPATH='/usr/local/bin/python2.5/site-packages' | 15:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | replace te 5 with a 4 | 15:37 |
| flip^ | alterego: its advertised on the maemo python pages that software needs 'maintenance' to work with 2.5, and suggests that you can't have both 2.4 and 2.5 on at the same time | 15:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | What stuff can I uninstall to get some more space ? | 15:37 |
| alterego | Right | 15:37 |
| alterego | Still badly designed. | 15:37 |
| alterego | Ruby wouldn't suffer that problem :P | 15:37 |
| flip^ | oh, yes, very much so | 15:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | I only have a 1 gb card | 15:37 |
| ekim|irc_ | howso ? | 15:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | I don't remember how ruby handles paths | 15:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | asa I remeber ... you can't add paths to ruby | 15:38 |
| alterego | Of course you can | 15:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | RUBYPATH ? | 15:38 |
| alterego | $: << '/some/path' | 15:38 |
| alterego | Or through an environment variable. | 15:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | right | 15:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | Its been a while | 15:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | I switched to python and never looked back | 15:38 |
| ekim|irc_ | Hmm | 15:39 |
| alterego | The point is, Ruby _knows_ where it's site and library directories are. It doesn't get confused with different versions. | 15:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | there is there annoying package called kernel... | 15:39 |
| flip^ | I'm not sure python gets too confused on any other system than maemo | 15:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | hmm | 15:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | if I remove it I can get lots mroe space | 15:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | Nope | 15:39 |
| ekim|irc_ | I have 2 versions on my system | 15:39 |
| alterego | Well those python packagers aren't doing a very good job ;) | 15:39 |
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| czr | python works quite nicely on most platforms, even with multiple versions | 15:40 |
| flip^ | annoying are things that require 2.4 as a dependancy. i cba to hack them onto the device | 15:40 |
| czr | alterego, just like ruby, python also _knows_ where the dirs are | 15:40 |
| czr | so something is broken in the packaging/build process | 15:40 |
| alterego | This is why I make Ruby1.8 _provide_ "ruby" so any package some one makes just has to rely on the 'ruby' dependency. | 15:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | can setuptools work in remverse | 15:41 |
| czr | that's how python packages work normally as well. | 15:41 |
| ekim|irc_ | to remove packages | 15:41 |
| alterego | Obviously there is a slight possibility that someone could write code that breaks in Ruby1.9/2.0 when it's released and I release the packages. But that's not very likely at all :) | 15:41 |
| * flip^ wanted to play Shinso Sho, but not enough to hack around with manual packages and python b0rkages | 15:42 | |
| alterego | czr, on the device or in general? | 15:42 |
| czr | alterego, in general. never tried it on the devie. | 15:42 |
| czr | device even. | 15:42 |
| alterego | Right, | 15:43 |
| alterego | Well, it would seem the python maemo team haven't provided python. So dependency fields are pointing at python2.4 or python2.5 | 15:43 |
| alterego | Which is unfortunate. | 15:43 |
| alterego | Not sure why that would break lib/site paths if python _knows_ where they are .. | 15:43 |
| czr | well, it _knows_ based on built time configuration. I guess in same way that ruby _knows_. | 15:44 |
| alterego | Yes, that's it. | 15:44 |
| czr | obviously it cannot guess just randomly. I doubt ruby does that either. | 15:44 |
| alterego | Sure | 15:44 |
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| czr | meh. any ideas why xmllint would vaild to load dtd off the net inside SDK? | 15:53 |
| czr | wget gets the same dtd quite nicely. | 15:53 |
| czr | ahh. the site gies 301 Moved Permanently | 15:54 |
| czr | gives even. | 15:54 |
| * czr kicks xmllint | 15:54 | |
| czr | neh. still doesn't work. | 15:55 |
| Atarii | do u gues use scratchbox through vmware/virtual pc or hdd istall of linux | 16:00 |
| Atarii | guys* | 16:01 |
| Atarii | install* | 16:01 |
| Atarii | lol damn | 16:01 |
| czr | depends on whether people use linux as main system or not. I use linux | 16:01 |
| czr | although I have a separate linux running in vmware for this project | 16:01 |
| Atarii | ok thanks, i just wanted a general consensus, and i hav linux on a laptop but just wondered if people use it in vmware | 16:02 |
| czr | it's a matter of taste | 16:02 |
| czr | I just want the extra isolation in case scratchbox decides to cause problems | 16:02 |
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| Atarii | wat distro do you use? | 16:03 |
| czr | for maemo? feisty/ubuntu right now. | 16:03 |
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| * czr kicks himself. | 16:17 | |
| DRoBeR | Hello | 16:18 |
| czr | all this time I thought the xml/xmllint was borken. turns out the resolv.conf in scratchbox is permanently at 127.0.0.1 and since by af wasn't running, nothing worked that needed dns. | 16:18 |
| DRoBeR | Who can help me with this? I am trying to compile a tool under scratchbox for porting it to N800. It is a language translator called "apertium". The main error is that it can't find gcc or alternative compiler. I'm trying to make an "apt-get install gcc" but: | 16:20 |
| DRoBeR | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~/apertium/lttoolbox-unicode] > apt-get install gcc | 16:20 |
| DRoBeR | /scratchbox/tools/bin/misc_runner: SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD not set | 16:20 |
| zuh | Your target is seriously broken :) | 16:21 |
| czr | seems like your sbox is misconfigured. it already includes gcc. | 16:21 |
| DRoBeR | :/ | 16:21 |
| DRoBeR | I've done it using the HOWTO of the maemo website. :( | 16:21 |
| DRoBeR | Thank you very much. | 16:22 |
| pupnik | first be sure you have gcc | 16:26 |
| pupnik | gcc -v tells you version info | 16:26 |
| pupnik | some packages insist on specific gcc versions, so that might be the problem | 16:26 |
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| DRoBeR | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > ln -s /scratchbox/compilers/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc | 16:31 |
| DRoBeR | I think this could help me :) | 16:31 |
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| pupnik | my 'which gcc' points to /scratchbox/compiles/bin/gcc | 16:33 |
| DRoBeR | yes. :/ | 16:34 |
| pupnik | again maybe your package is doing something strange | 16:34 |
| pupnik | [sbox-SB_Arm2: ~] > ls -l /usr/bin/gcc | 16:34 |
| pupnik | lrwxrwxrwx 1 minra minra 7 Sep 19 11:47 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-3.4 | 16:34 |
| DRoBeR | Should I reinstall scratchbox? :) | 16:38 |
| pupnik | does the problem occur compiling other packages>? | 16:38 |
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| Blacksito | hi | 16:41 |
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| * czr sighs in deep distress | 17:08 | |
| czr | I'd paste some code here, but you'll all want to kill yourself if I'd do that (it is, that bad..) | 17:08 |
| czr | no wonder gcc throws up a warning or two | 17:08 |
| zoran | no more than 5 mb | 17:08 |
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| alterego | :D | 17:10 |
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| czr | I need an exit plan. | 17:13 |
| * czr considers running away to south-africa. | 17:13 | |
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| zoran | czr, what is the codu you concider anthilopas would like more what we ? | 17:17 |
| zoran | uh, what a typos | 17:17 |
| czr | zoran, neh. my exit plan involves diching all code. all computers. everything! (yes, even my pants). | 17:17 |
| zoran | the place you go will do that anyway :) | 17:18 |
| czr | I fear this place will do that to me soon too. | 17:18 |
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| * czr asks the gps-navigator for the safest route by foot from helsinki to johannesburg | 17:18 | |
| czr | while running naked too. | 17:18 |
| zerojay | Can you ask it for the riskiest too? | 17:19 |
| czr | zerojay, sure | 17:19 |
| czr | you want to exit too? | 17:19 |
| zoran | don't forget that the globe rotates | 17:19 |
| czr | zoran, I am not planning to run near at c. | 17:20 |
| czr | although it could be interesting too. | 17:20 |
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| Blacksitox | re | 17:24 |
| pupnik | fuckyou Blacksitox | 17:24 |
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| pupnik | just trying to make you feel at home :) | 17:25 |
| Blacksitox | fuck xD | 17:25 |
| Blacksitox | wait :P | 17:25 |
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| pupnik | that's nicer :) | 17:26 |
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| zoran | folks, how I got python 2.4 after reflashing 3.2006.49? should be 2.5 | 17:26 |
| zerojay | Python isn't included in the flash image. | 17:27 |
| zoran | yeah | 17:27 |
| Atarii | download via application repositories | 17:27 |
| zoran | I added it myself | 17:27 |
| zerojay | You most likely installed a program that uses python. | 17:27 |
| zoran | nope | 17:27 |
| zoran | my own hands | 17:27 |
| zoran | from reps | 17:27 |
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| Blacksitox | pupnik, :) | 17:28 |
| zoran | k, gregale has python 2.4 ! | 17:29 |
| * czr wishes all people who ignore gcc warnings would wither away and die a painful death | 17:29 | |
| czr | "meh, it's just a warning! how serious could it be! me be the leet uberhaxor! compiler just complain for no reason!" | 17:29 |
| czr | sorry. | 17:30 |
| zoran | what it says? | 17:30 |
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| czr | it says the codebase I'm working on sucks and is buggy as hell | 17:31 |
| zoran | nice langage for gnu animal | 17:31 |
| zoran | *language | 17:31 |
| czr | "Warning: You know that you could be enjoying some fresh air and beer right now.. You know that. right?" | 17:32 |
| pupnik | i see a 2.5 | 17:32 |
| pupnik | repositories? | 17:32 |
| _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php | 17:32 |
| zoran | yes | 17:32 |
| zoran | it is 770 | 17:32 |
| zoran | but scirocco and gregale have 2.4 | 17:32 |
| zoran | no big deal, too | 17:32 |
| zoran | I just put getmail on it | 17:32 |
| czr | "gconf-directory-watch.c:25: warning: comparison between pointer and integer" | 17:32 |
| czr | I wonder what that means.. hmmm. | 17:33 |
| zoran | he-he | 17:33 |
| czr | seriously, this is the most serious poop I've seen in a while. | 17:33 |
| zoran | ritchie and kernigan book flows around on the net | 17:33 |
| czr | I was being ironic! | 17:34 |
| zoran | :) | 17:34 |
| * czr builds a barge from all the floating books | 17:35 | |
| zoran | I take all literaly | 17:35 |
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| zoran | k, python asks for module named getpass | 17:45 |
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| czr | leelo multipass | 17:45 |
| czr | or was it leeloo. | 17:45 |
| zoran | solution came by itself! battery is out | 17:50 |
| imBen | If I'm running my OS 2007 off the memory card would it be dumb to install virtual memory on the second partition? | 17:50 |
| zoran | another device would be better | 17:50 |
| zoran | for hdd surely | 17:50 |
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| zoran | fine, found module getpass on my local box | 17:53 |
| czr | heh. not only is the code pooped. it leaks memory too. | 17:59 |
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| zoran | how people on this channel handle security on connections out of home nets? | 18:09 |
| pupnik | can you be more specific? | 18:10 |
| zoran | my 770 has installed iptables | 18:10 |
| zoran | but no stateful module | 18:11 |
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| zoran | my opinion is that firewall blocks connection for no-net option on 770 | 18:11 |
| zoran | I played with it some months ago and it works in stateless mode | 18:12 |
| czr | hmm. if I create a new GMainLoop, I should release it with g_main_loop_unref() after use, right? | 18:12 |
| pupnik | if you find a way to hack itos, let us know | 18:12 |
| zoran | pupnik, me or czr? | 18:13 |
| czr | you zoran | 18:13 |
| zoran | I see a clear way to do that | 18:13 |
| zoran | just I have no spare box to load linux | 18:13 |
| zoran | does someone compiled _whole_ kernel for os versions in the past? | 18:14 |
| pupnik | yes | 18:14 |
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| zoran | like: "I need this and that and all other goes to modules" | 18:15 |
| zoran | those modules sit on someone's hdd; one of them is nat and stateful one | 18:15 |
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| czr | any gconf-hackers around? | 18:25 |
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| zoran | I have some external 3-head usb cable from hdd enclosure; is it suitable for usb-host-mode usage? | 19:01 |
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| zuh | czr: what about it? | 19:08 |
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| czr | zuh, the prototype for value-changed signal callback | 19:09 |
| czr | although I noticed that most code uses notify_add instead, and the prototype for that cb is clear (and documented), but can't find the one for the gobject-signal | 19:09 |
| czr | from GConfClient that is. | 19:09 |
| czr | when waiting for GConf-entries to change. | 19:09 |
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| zuh | You should really use notify_add, the value_changed from GConfClient tells you that *a* value changed in the database, even those you don't give a rat's ass about | 19:13 |
| zuh | And the only way to detect which is apparently strcmp... | 19:13 |
| czr | sure, but I'm following two keys, and both use same allback (I register the callback at the directory just above the keys), so it needs strcmp:s anyway | 19:14 |
| czr | and I've changed the code to use notify_add now since I didn't find the prototype in any documentation, but just was wondering what it should be | 19:15 |
| czr | allback=callback. keyboard must be getting all kinds of cruft inside it lately. | 19:15 |
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| zuh | But if you strcmp every time the camera is twisted or something else pings stuff in gconf, wouldn't that be a waste of time and potentially a big one? | 19:18 |
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| czr | you get notified only for the directories you follow in gconf | 19:18 |
| czr | even with the value-changed mechanism | 19:18 |
| czr | also, when the camera twists, that surely won't cause a gconf event? | 19:19 |
| czr | d-bus signal yes, but gconf? | 19:19 |
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| zuh | IIRC it's updated there too (it could be the camera pop-out but you get my point) | 19:23 |
| zuh | and right, the GConfClient was inherently only watching specific dirs, forgot that. | 19:23 |
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| czr | hmm. must be specific to the camera then? seems weird, but I guess there's some reason to store that. | 19:23 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 19:25 |
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| zuh | There's lots of things that get updated to gconf, like the mmc cover state etc. One could of course check with the gconf-editor what there is but I'm lazy enough to not boot and find out ;) | 19:26 |
| czr | zuh, np. reading gconftool dump as we speak. I wasn't aware that gconf was used for other than "ui-settings" or settings in general. | 19:26 |
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| czr | heh. nice to see that the device contains config for /desktop/gnome/* as well (referencing epiphany, gnome-help, and friends).. | 19:27 |
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| czr | zuh, yup. found the stuff under /system/osso/af/ | 19:32 |
| Jaffa | konttori: ping | 19:38 |
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| Atarii | mudbuilder is fun | 20:08 |
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| Jaffa | Atarii: glad you like it, if you've got any suggestions or packages, please feel free to post them to the mailing list | 21:20 |
| Atarii | kk. do u have to sign up to the mailing list to see previous posts? | 21:20 |
| Atarii | or have i got the wrong idea? | 21:20 |
| Jaffa | No, the archive should be visible - it's just low traffic. | 21:21 |
| Atarii | ok | 21:21 |
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| Tybor | hi... I was upgrading my N800 (with an Ubuntu Gutsy). When I power it on i get from the flasher program this message "Sending request 0x83 failed: Cannot send after transport endpoint shutdown" | 21:41 |
| mgedmin | I think I saw this message when I tried to flash the 770 image on a N800 by mistake | 21:44 |
| mgedmin | I was really disappointed that it didn't just tell me straight away I had the wrong image | 21:45 |
| Tybor | mgedmin, perhaps it has something related to usbfs not mounted | 21:45 |
| * Tybor retry | 21:45 | |
| Tybor | nothing changed | 21:46 |
| mgedmin | ah, no, I had a different message: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2007-August/006364.html | 21:47 |
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| pupnik | now i want an apple II again | 21:52 |
| pupnik | !beep! whrrwhrrwhrrwhrr | 21:52 |
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| konttori | jaffa:here | 22:25 |
| Jaffa | konttori: was going to talk to you about Java mencoder wrappers. Spent an hour or so this weekend doing a proper OO one, abstracting out lots of code which I think might be beneficial to your MediaConverter given I noticed it's basically a single class doing all the work | 22:35 |
| Jaffa | But Mrs Jaffa needs me right now. | 22:35 |
| Jaffa | BBL. | 22:36 |
| konttori | see you. | 22:36 |
| konttori | interesting stuff | 22:36 |
| konttori | talk to you later | 22:36 |
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| pupnik | "I almost feel pity for those who grew up with modern games. " - Mobygame review of Ultima IV | 23:04 |
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| pauliukas | How do I use the jailbreak on the 770? | 23:19 |
| pauliukas | I already have it installed - but what next. | 23:19 |
| zerojay | Jailbreak? wtf is that? | 23:20 |
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| pauliukas | uhhh | 23:23 |
| pauliukas | to be able to get root | 23:23 |
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| dpryo | pauliukas: sudo gainroot | 23:25 |
| pauliukas | thanks | 23:25 |
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| Tybor | mgedmin, i retried and retried, but it seems that Ubuntu feisty does not fit with flasher-3.0 and N800 | 23:33 |
| Tybor | does anyone know what's the issue that prevent flasher-3.0 on an ubuntu feisty/gutsy to upgrade an N800? | 23:34 |
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| pupnik | wb Atarii | 23:39 |
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| pupnik | Tybor: sorry i can't help. I will file your issue into my bag of hate for Ubuntu though. | 23:40 |
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| Atarii | :) | 23:40 |
| Tybor | pupnik, 8) it seems that this bug also apply to Knoppix, isn't it? | 23:41 |
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| Tybor | pupnik, mgedmin: I did a really stupid silly error... -f instead of -F before the rom image | 23:49 |
| Tybor | it works perfectly until now | 23:49 |
| pupnik | ah good | 23:54 |
| mgedmin | Tybor: yes, the flasher has really horrific error reporting | 23:55 |
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