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| bt | wonder if can anyone give me a clue on the 4.0 SDK installation. I've installed and was able to run scratchbox but when I run the SDK installer it says to me : maemo-sdk-install_4.0beta.sh: line 331: /opt/scratchbox/tools/bin/dialog: File or Directory not found. Is this a known issue? I couldn't find it on the mailing lists. I wonder if I'm missing anything.... | 00:03 |
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| Blacksito | buenas tardes | 01:06 |
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| Troseph | Is there anyway to get CIFS/SMB working on Maemo? Or does it still need to be ported | 01:43 |
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| pupnik | someone with n800 can test pingus? http://pupnik.de/pingus.html | 02:17 |
| pupnik | i need to know at how many released pingus do you see a slowdown, if any | 02:18 |
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| BuckWilder | where does scratchbox put the run first script? | 02:21 |
| BuckWilder | I'm having trouble finding it | 02:22 |
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| pupnik | af-init-sb or what? | 02:24 |
| BuckWilder | ls | 02:24 |
| BuckWilder | err huh | 02:24 |
| BuckWilder | lol | 02:24 |
| pupnik | i don't remember installing scratchbox | 02:25 |
| BuckWilder | I installed it from the debian package installer | 02:25 |
| pupnik | ah good | 02:25 |
| BuckWilder | because the repository didn't work | 02:25 |
| pupnik | then howto says some run me command must be run? | 02:26 |
| BuckWilder | it tells me to run add user | 02:26 |
| BuckWilder | but that complains that run_me_first.sh or something has to be run | 02:26 |
| BuckWilder | and I don't know where that is | 02:26 |
| pupnik | /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_adduser ? | 02:26 |
| BuckWilder | ok, nm it worked that time | 02:27 |
| BuckWilder | nah the first time it complained about not running some run_me_first.sh script | 02:27 |
| BuckWilder | not sure why, worked the second time | 02:27 |
| jonty | so, anyone got maemo-myth working yet? | 02:28 |
| jonty | I managed to get a channel list once, but that's all | 02:28 |
| BuckWilder | I don't know why anyone hasn't gotten samba/CIFS in a GUI yet | 02:30 |
| BuckWilder | looks like it would be easy enough to develop | 02:30 |
| jonty | I thought it had been done? | 02:32 |
| pupnik | the samba client is really big | 02:33 |
| BuckWilder | the samba client is big I guess | 02:34 |
| BuckWilder | but CIFS is already installable | 02:34 |
| BuckWilder | but you have to mount from the command line | 02:34 |
| BuckWilder | I don't know about you guys, but I'm not a huge fan of doing stuff from the command line on the N800 | 02:34 |
| BuckWilder | it's okay if you SSH in | 02:35 |
| BuckWilder | I mean, you could write a shell script, but how much work could it possibly be to make a little GUI for the front | 02:35 |
| jonty | off you go then ;) | 02:36 |
| BuckWilder | yeah, I just have to figure out how to get python to talk to the command line (which should be easy enough) and how to get a GUI up and running | 02:36 |
| * pupnik is overcome by laziness | 02:36 | |
| pupnik | how many people are actively developing things for the nokias i wonder | 02:37 |
| BuckWilder | no idea | 02:37 |
| BuckWilder | another thing I'd like to get going is a bittorrent GUI port | 02:38 |
| pupnik | most of the clients are high cpu use | 02:38 |
| BuckWilder | yeah | 02:38 |
| pupnik | i've had success with ctorrent. i built rtorrent but got segfaults. | 02:38 |
| pupnik | rtorrent is very feature-rich | 02:39 |
| BuckWilder | yeah | 02:39 |
| BuckWilder | bittorrent isn't a huge priority to me, but it would be cool | 02:39 |
| BuckWilder | another thing I think would be useful is, is there a way to treat the N800 like a bluetooth headset or something? | 02:39 |
| BuckWilder | so you could make calls from your phone while its in your pocket | 02:40 |
| BuckWilder | how hard would that be to get working | 02:40 |
| pupnik | neat idea | 02:40 |
| pupnik | haven't seen that before | 02:40 |
| * pupnik gives BuckWilder a star :) | 02:40 | |
| jonty | I'm not exactly sure what you're saying - you want to use the N800 AS the headset? | 02:41 |
| BuckWilder | it would be cool to use the N800 as the phone, almost | 02:41 |
| BuckWilder | yeah | 02:41 |
| jonty | Why on earth would you use the N800 itself as a headset? That's rediculously convoluted. | 02:42 |
| BuckWilder | I'm not sure exactly how bluetooth works, but don't you have the two crucial abilities with the protocol, which are the ability to dial the phone, and the ability to get the audio in/out from the phone? | 02:42 |
| jonty | and as for using it as a phone, use skype or SIP with asterisk | 02:42 |
| BuckWilder | why wouldn't I? | 02:42 |
| BuckWilder | yeah, but what if I want to use a regular cell network? | 02:43 |
| BuckWilder | why not? | 02:43 |
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| jonty | Ok, the N800 does not have a built in microphone, you have to use the headset, so how does using the N800 as a client bluetooth audio device for the phone differ to just plugging a headset into the phone in the first place? | 02:44 |
| BuckWilder | the N800 DOES have a built in mic | 02:44 |
| BuckWilder | or if it doesn't, what is it recording using the speakers? | 02:45 |
| jonty | Hmm, in which case neither of the N800's I've had, had working mic's built in | 02:45 |
| jonty | the 770 did | 02:45 |
| BuckWilder | I dunno, I've used a couple recording applications on mine | 02:45 |
| jonty | In which case the point then stands, why not just use speakerphone mode on the phone ;) | 02:45 |
| BuckWilder | because, if you have a bluetooth enabled phone you could leave the phone in your pocket | 02:46 |
| BuckWilder | and you could manage all your calls/etc from the N800 | 02:46 |
| jonty | :| | 02:46 |
| jonty | It's fairly convoluted, and would require a LOT of hacking about - bluetooth audio on linux sucks hard | 02:47 |
| BuckWilder | probably | 02:47 |
| BuckWilder | that's my most ambitious idea tho | 02:47 |
| BuckWilder | I think that would be really cool | 02:47 |
| jonty | heh | 02:47 |
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| Artemisprime | Hi | 02:59 |
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| Artemisprime | Any new fun stuff on 770 ? | 02:59 |
| Artemisprime | Hee | 02:59 |
| pupnik | help test games Artemisprime | 03:01 |
| Artemisprime | Sue | 03:02 |
| Artemisprime | Sure | 03:02 |
| Artemisprime | Im on 770 now | 03:02 |
| pupnik | kobo deluxe is pretty insane, play with stylus firing | 03:02 |
| Artemisprime | Cool | 03:02 |
| Artemisprime | Whats th site | 03:02 |
| pupnik | pupnik.de/software.html | 03:03 |
| pupnik | not a one-click install but whatever | 03:03 |
| Artemisprime | Can u type f ull link | 03:03 |
| Artemisprime | Im on 770 | 03:03 |
| pupnik | k | 03:03 |
| pupnik | http://pupnik.de/kobodl.html | 03:04 |
| Artemisprime | Thanx | 03:04 |
| pupnik | let me know if it's f'd up | 03:04 |
| Artemisprime | K | 03:05 |
| Artemisprime | Why would it be ? | 03:05 |
| pupnik | i didn't spend much time on it | 03:05 |
| Artemisprime | Unable to install | 03:06 |
| pupnik | ok one sec | 03:06 |
| Artemisprime | Imcom pack | 03:06 |
| Artemisprime | What pack do need ? | 03:06 |
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| pupnik | ok new package uploaded - should fix the installer prob | 03:08 |
| pupnik | refresh and reclick | 03:08 |
| pupnik | i don't know what the imcom pack is | 03:08 |
| Artemisprime | Incompatible package | 03:09 |
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| pupnik | testing install | 03:12 |
| Artemisprime | Ok it install ed do i have to run it frm promt | 03:12 |
| pupnik | yah | 03:12 |
| pupnik | sry bout that - i still have to learn how to do the menus | 03:13 |
| Artemisprime | Cmd ? | 03:13 |
| pupnik | and it takes like a year to generate the sound data | 03:13 |
| Artemisprime | Its coo | 03:13 |
| Artemisprime | Cmd ? | 03:13 |
| pupnik | hmm | 03:14 |
| pupnik | /usr/games/kobodl | 03:14 |
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| pupnik | but the config file makes the game a lot better | 03:14 |
| pupnik | i need to put that in the package | 03:14 |
| Artemisprime | Hold on | 03:14 |
| Artemisprime | Testing | 03:14 |
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| pupnik | download the .kobodlrc file to the left into /home/user for optimized speed and control settings. | 03:15 |
| Artemisprime | What ? | 03:15 |
| Artemisprime | I jut want to run | 03:16 |
| pupnik | read the stuff on the webpage | 03:16 |
| Artemisprime | K | 03:16 |
| pupnik | but yeah this game should be one of the first to get a maemo games wrapper | 03:17 |
| pupnik | problem is the game generates all the music samples on startup | 03:17 |
| pupnik | i've talked to the author and he's interested in adding a feature to cache the music data | 03:17 |
| pupnik | so you only generate it once | 03:17 |
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| pupnik | anyway once you get it installed and the kobodlrc installed, you can steer with dpad and fire with stylus | 03:19 |
| pupnik | and it's a hell of a game | 03:19 |
| Artemisprime | Cant run | 03:20 |
| Artemisprime | Im in the dir | 03:20 |
| pupnik | does it spit out an error message? | 03:21 |
| Artemisprime | I type kobodl and it cant | 03:21 |
| pupnik | /usr/games/kobodl? | 03:21 |
| Artemisprime | Yes | 03:21 |
| Artemisprime | Im in that di | 03:21 |
| Artemisprime | R | 03:21 |
| pupnik | ah i run it from /home user | 03:21 |
| pupnik | and invoke it with /usr/games/kobodl | 03:21 |
| pupnik | but that shouldn't make a difference | 03:22 |
| pupnik | does it spit out an error? | 03:22 |
| Artemisprime | Not found | 03:22 |
| pupnik | ok | 03:22 |
| pupnik | type | 03:22 |
| pupnik | cd | 03:22 |
| pupnik | then type | 03:22 |
| Artemisprime | But i can see when i ls | 03:22 |
| pupnik | /usr/games/kobodl | 03:22 |
| pupnik | you invoke the game with the full path | 03:23 |
| pupnik | "/usr/games/kobodl" | 03:23 |
| Artemisprime | Im in games | 03:23 |
| Artemisprime | Dir | 03:23 |
| pupnik | yeah but that's not how linux works | 03:23 |
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| Artemisprime | Oh | 03:23 |
| Artemisprime | So what command ? | 03:23 |
| pupnik | look up :) | 03:24 |
| Artemisprime | Im on 70 | 03:24 |
| Artemisprime | Hehe | 03:24 |
| pupnik | /usr/games/kobodl | 03:24 |
| pupnik | for the fourth time | 03:24 |
| pupnik | for the fourth time | 03:24 |
| pupnik | /usr/games/kobodl | 03:24 |
| Artemisprime | Ill try | 03:24 |
| Artemisprime | Ok | 03:26 |
| Artemisprime | Crashed | 03:26 |
| Artemisprime | Ill try o sonf | 03:27 |
| Artemisprime | No sound | 03:27 |
| pupnik | interesting | 03:27 |
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| pupnik | requires | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libSDL_image-1.2.so.0 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libSDL-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libtiff.so.4 => /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
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| pupnik | libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | libXau.so.0 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.0 (0x00000000) | 03:29 |
| pupnik | walp i found a few things to fix now | 03:29 |
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| Artemisprime | Loaded | 03:30 |
| Artemisprime | Bu crashe | 03:31 |
| pupnik | wow! | 03:31 |
| Artemisprime | Loded abort game ? Scrreeen | 03:31 |
| Artemisprime | And froze | 03:31 |
| Artemisprime | Bak o trm | 03:31 |
| pupnik | ok | 03:31 |
| Artemisprime | Use nosound option | 03:32 |
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| Artemisprime | To load | 03:32 |
| pupnik | ok | 03:32 |
| pupnik | hmm no ideas yet why | 03:32 |
| Artemisprime | Dunn | 03:33 |
| Artemisprime | O | 03:33 |
| pupnik | testing a new build here | 03:34 |
| pupnik | thanks - you're the *first* person to test this | 03:34 |
| Artemisprime | Cool | 03:34 |
| pupnik | so it helps a lot | 03:34 |
| Artemisprime | :) | 03:34 |
| pupnik | did it spit out errors when crashing? or just say 'segfault'? | 03:36 |
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| Artemisprime | I may have exites | 03:37 |
| Artemisprime | It says switchin to single buffer mode | 03:37 |
| Artemisprime | I cant do anything with stylus | 03:38 |
| Artemisprime | I cant fie | 03:38 |
| Artemisprime | Fire | 03:38 |
| pupnik | ok yeah firing only works with the .kobodlrc downloaded into your /home/user | 03:38 |
| pupnik | i have to figure out how to put that into the package | 03:39 |
| Artemisprime | Ow can i put it there | 03:39 |
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| Artemisprime | ? | 03:40 |
| pupnik | download it from the webpage with browser | 03:40 |
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| pupnik | and put it in /home/user | 03:40 |
| pupnik | i don't see how to automatically install it yet | 03:40 |
| Artemisprime | It opens it | 03:41 |
| Artemisprime | Like text | 03:41 |
| Artemisprime | How save ? | 03:42 |
| pupnik | ah damn... can you hold the stylus down on the link to get a 'download to file'? | 03:42 |
| pupnik | hold stylus down maybe 3 seconds | 03:42 |
| pupnik | ah no opera can't do it! | 03:43 |
| pupnik | curses!!!!! | 03:43 |
| Artemisprime | I can only put it in fake folders | 03:43 |
| Artemisprime | Predefind noki | 03:43 |
| Artemisprime | Documentsetc. | 03:43 |
| pupnik | yes i see | 03:44 |
| pupnik | i tried just now also | 03:44 |
| pupnik | heh sorry! | 03:44 |
| pupnik | i need to make kobo package install the rc file | 03:44 |
| Artemisprime | Inded | 03:45 |
| Artemisprime | Can i copy from documents | 03:45 |
| pupnik | yes if there's any way to copy .kobodlrc to /home/user you are set | 03:46 |
| pupnik | of course why nokia hides /home/user i do not know | 03:46 |
| pupnik | it is like microsoft | 03:46 |
| pupnik | "lets hide the real system from the user!" | 03:47 |
| Artemisprime | Hehe | 03:47 |
| pupnik | "the user must only save to documents!" | 03:47 |
| pupnik | computer nazis | 03:47 |
| Artemisprime | Yep | 03:47 |
| Artemisprime | But this is worse | 03:47 |
| Artemisprime | N keyboard | 03:47 |
| pupnik | but is my responsiblity to make a usable kobodl - with menu and so forth | 03:47 |
| pupnik | so whenever you get the rc into /home/user it should be very playable | 03:48 |
| pupnik | i have to change the exit confirmation to not require a "y" key, but exit on dpad-enter also | 03:50 |
| Artemisprime | Ant i just copy frm documents foder tousr/home | 03:51 |
| pupnik | ty | 03:52 |
| pupnik | yes | 03:52 |
| Artemisprime | Wat is doument path | 03:52 |
| pupnik | /home/user/MyDocs ? | 03:53 |
| Artemisprime | Coo | 03:53 |
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| Artemisprime | Icant save it | 03:55 |
| Artemisprime | Cuzof the chars | 03:55 |
| pupnik | because of the "."/\ | 03:56 |
| pupnik | ? | 03:56 |
| Artemisprime | I renamed | 03:57 |
| Artemisprime | Its ok | 03:57 |
| Artemisprime | Can cd to home/usr | 03:58 |
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| pupnik | user not usr | 03:59 |
| pupnik | cd /home/user | 03:59 |
| Artemisprime | Cant cd to mydocs now | 04:00 |
| Artemisprime | Im in user | 04:00 |
| pupnik | capitalisation is important | 04:00 |
| Artemisprime | K | 04:00 |
| pupnik | MyDocs | 04:01 |
| Artemisprime | Ok im in | 04:01 |
| Artemisprime | But no l | 04:01 |
| Artemisprime | S | 04:02 |
| Artemisprime | Shows up nothing | 04:02 |
| pupnik | ls -a should show maybe .documents | 04:03 |
| Artemisprime | I think it saved as .htm | 04:05 |
| Artemisprime | Rename and copy ? | 04:05 |
| pupnik | yeah | 04:05 |
| pupnik | should be named .kobodlrc | 04:06 |
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| Artemisprime | Cmds ? | 04:06 |
| pupnik | mv filename /home/user/.kobodlrc | 04:06 |
| pupnik | where filename is whatever the file is | 04:07 |
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| Artemisprime | K | 04:07 |
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| Artemisprime | Still cant fire | 04:17 |
| pupnik | do you get fullscreen display now? | 04:17 |
| Artemisprime | Must not have workes | 04:17 |
| Artemisprime | Nope | 04:17 |
| pupnik | with .kobodlrc in /home/user you should see fullscreen game | 04:17 |
| Artemisprime | It said the cmd was success | 04:18 |
| Artemisprime | Noo error | 04:18 |
| Artemisprime | .Kobodl is in the di | 04:20 |
| Artemisprime | My batt is gunna die | 04:20 |
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| Artemisprime | Well haveto do this later | 04:21 |
| pupnik | ok will have a new version to download soon | 04:21 |
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| Artemisprime | Ill keep playin wih it | 04:21 |
| Artemisprime | Now that i know cmds | 04:21 |
| Artemisprime | :) | 04:21 |
| Artemisprime | Thanx | 04:22 |
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| Artemisprime | Night | 04:22 |
| pupnik | cu | 04:23 |
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| pupnik | new kobo deluxe - installable with app manager, playable/exitable without keyboard | 04:45 |
| mgedmin | oooh, kobo deluxe | 04:47 |
| _Monkey | kobo deluxe is addictive | 04:47 |
| pupnik | just needs menu and maemo-game wrapper now | 04:48 |
| pupnik | oh and it still taked 3 minutes to generate music data | 04:48 |
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| pupnik | but it's fast and addictive | 04:49 |
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| cein | any insights as to why maemo doesn't have the latest flash version? | 06:39 |
| cein | is it just that it's not ported yet or are there technical constraints? | 06:39 |
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| IgorSobreira | hi all...im trying to install maemo to start learn about it.. ( http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php/Installing_Maemo_SDK_on_Scratchbox ) ...ive followed this but i cant see the maemo nice window...here is my problem ( http://paste.uni.cc/17193 )..anybody could help me? | 07:12 |
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| pupnik | Any graphics artists out there? Here are the controls needed for onscreen buttons / thumb/stylus for xu4 | 10:28 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:34 |
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| Big_B | anybody can tell me "How can i build dev package for n700" pls | 11:18 |
| Big_B | please anybody help me . | 11:18 |
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| Big_B | How can i build dev package for N700 ? please anybody tell me. | 11:19 |
| onion | Big_B: dev package of what ? | 11:23 |
| Big_B | for maemo +n700 device | 11:25 |
| pupnik | dev or deb? | 11:26 |
| Big_B | oh sorry deb | 11:26 |
| pupnik | apt-get source <packagename> to get sources | 11:26 |
| pupnik | in scratchbox, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b in the source directory to build the package | 11:27 |
| Big_B | Pupnik : ok | 11:27 |
| Big_B | I m following your instruction Pupnik | 11:27 |
| Big_B | Please continue to help me | 11:28 |
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| pupnik | to apt-get a source you will need deb-src defined in your /etc/apt/sources.list | 11:28 |
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| pupnik | just for example, deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free | 11:29 |
| pupnik | but that will get you sid packages, you might be better off getting older packages | 11:29 |
| Big_B | ok | 11:31 |
| pupnik | those commands also make good additions to search terms for google, if you need to read up on more background information | 11:32 |
| pupnik | porting? | 11:32 |
| _Monkey | porting is http://test.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_porting_an_existing_application.html | 11:32 |
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| Big_B | ok | 11:36 |
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| Big_B | Hi lardman !!!! | 11:54 |
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| lardman | hi Big_B | 11:59 |
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| Big_B | Lardman : you helped me a lot , thanks a lot for that. Now i m going to build deb package for N700 . | 12:04 |
| lardman | Big_B: Really, what did I do? | 12:04 |
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| * lardman is getting forgetful in his old age :) | 12:05 | |
| Big_B | ohhhhhhhhhh. | 12:05 |
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| Big_B | you helped me to integrate libjpeg eith my project | 12:05 |
| Big_B | with | 12:05 |
| lardman | ah, okay | 12:05 |
| lardman | glad to help | 12:06 |
| Big_B | ya | 12:06 |
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| Big_B | Pupnik is now helping me. | 12:07 |
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| pupnik | i am? :) | 12:36 |
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| flip^ | is there any decent calendar (with or without todo) software for a n800, that will sync up (preferably in both directions) with something online? tbh, I've been trying to find the same for Windows for weeks with no real success either :( | 12:37 |
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| pupnik | gpe? flip^ ? | 12:41 |
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| flip^ | pupnik: I'm told that can pull down an iCal file - though I've not explored enough to find out - but I don't think it can publish changes back again | 12:45 |
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| pupnik | dunno - there is definitely room for coordination on better pim/calendar | 13:29 |
| pupnik | maybe you can join a subgroup of people who want to make this better | 13:29 |
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| flip^ | If I could get my head round developing for maemo, I might put something together. Shame I hate ical though | 13:33 |
| flip^ | I wish I could do java on maemo :( | 13:33 |
| pupnik | it's probably not a one-person job | 13:34 |
| pupnik | well even you know - testing and stuff helps | 13:34 |
| flip^ | well, yeah | 13:34 |
| flip^ | before I scheme anything like this on maemo, I need to get myself set up to develop... in theory I downloaded the VMWare appliance that's ready to go last night tho | 13:34 |
| flip^ | waiting for me when i get home from work today | 13:35 |
| pupnik | :) | 13:35 |
| pupnik | i started with the 'low hanging fruit' and then just kept finding more and more of it | 13:36 |
| flip^ | It's ages since I touched C/C++ stuff though... I'm dreading it a little | 13:36 |
| pupnik | yeah same here - was about 10 years | 13:37 |
| pupnik | erm no come to think of it, 18 | 13:37 |
| flip^ | To think the fact it's about 5 years since I shifted to Java makes me feel old :( | 13:37 |
| flip^ | 18 years ago I might have been playing with "My First Computer" ;) | 13:37 |
| pupnik | hmm... time | 13:40 |
| pupnik | yep, it's still moving on | 13:40 |
| flip^ | so, given i've not even had a chance to touch it yet, would developing for maemo be best described as "a breeze" or "a painful experience", or some other amusing parallel | 13:42 |
| pupnik | i'll let you know when i develop something | 13:42 |
| pupnik | i'm just slowly getting my feet wet in sdl | 13:43 |
| pupnik | but if you want to play with adapting gtk programs to hildon... | 13:43 |
| pupnik | http://pupnik.de/mtpaint.html | 13:43 |
| pupnik | http://pupnik.de/touchmegames.html | 13:44 |
| pupnik | those would be fairly straightforward afaict | 13:44 |
| pupnik | i did the first hildonization steps for touchmegames with just a couple hours of howto reading | 13:44 |
| flip^ | yeah, i expect I'll start by trying to port some easy stuff... starting with recompiling command line things, and working up through gtk things | 13:50 |
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| Jaffa | flip^: see also http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/ | 14:33 |
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| flip^ | ooh, had my hopes up that would be a throwback to my mudding days, but it's just as cool in its own geeky way | 14:35 |
| erstazi | flip^: heh, nothing wrong with mudding though (: | 14:38 |
| flip^ | i know, it just seems to have been a dying trend... my mud used to have dozens of players on, but now only one or two look in on it each week :( | 14:39 |
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| erstazi | flip^: oh I thought you meant field hopping (: | 14:40 |
| * flip^ grins | 14:40 | |
| erstazi | flip^: now I see the links (: | 14:40 |
| flip^ | i was definitely being geeky. something about the atmosphere brings it out of me | 14:41 |
| flip^ | probably cos i'm stuck at work and quite bored | 14:41 |
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| pupnik | muds ruined one semester of my college | 14:50 |
| alterego | :) | 14:50 |
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| flip^ | yeah, i know that feeling | 14:51 |
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| xand | hi, after running kismet (and quitting it), I can no longer connect using the connection manager unless I reboot -- it doesn't even search for wireless networks; is there something I can do to fix this? | 14:52 |
| alterego | Yay for sshfs! | 14:57 |
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| alterego | I wonder if this will work in scratchbox .. | 14:58 |
| cosmo | is there fuse already for maemo? | 15:04 |
| alterego | Don't know. | 15:05 |
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| alterego | I might port it over and package it if there isn't. | 15:05 |
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| cosmo | that would be nice. and then some nice python gui for managing sshfs shares.. | 15:08 |
| alterego | Ruby GIU | 15:13 |
| alterego | ~GUI | 15:13 |
| infobot | i guess gui is (Graphical User Interface) Any system that uses graphics to represent the functions of a program. All Windows operating systems are GUI. or point-and-drool, double-click, drag-and-drop, ... or at http://pla-netx.com/linebackn/guis/index.html. Of course Real Programmers use the command line interface. See cli | 15:13 |
| alterego | I was planning on writting a "Connect to" like app | 15:13 |
| alterego | Like that in the "Places" menu under Gnome | 15:13 |
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| cosmo | alterego: yep, that would be really nice | 15:14 |
| cosmo | and some tool that you could use to remount sshfs shares if you get disconnected | 15:14 |
| alterego | Yah | 15:15 |
| alterego | You see .. I was going to use GnomeVFS, but the Ruby bindings for it don't have any documentation at all. | 15:15 |
| cosmo | maybe even remount tham automatically when network connection is available. there's dbus message for it | 15:15 |
| alterego | I guess making a dedicated tool would be fine. | 15:15 |
| alterego | cosmo, all good ideas :) | 15:16 |
| * alterego makes some notes. | 15:16 | |
| cosmo | and something to remember passwords like gnome-vfs can do but sshfs doesn't (unless you do keyless authentication by hand) | 15:17 |
| alterego | Yah | 15:17 |
| alterego | Well, remembering passwords is easy. | 15:17 |
| alterego | I'm suprised Maemo doesn't have a universal credential system. Maybe that's something it needs :) | 15:18 |
| cosmo | btw gnome-vfs sftp support is very buggy compared to sshfs, and only gnome-vfs apps can use it | 15:18 |
| alterego | Yeah | 15:18 |
| alterego | I generally don't think GnomeVFS is very highly regarded at the moment. | 15:21 |
| cosmo | idea & integration is very good, but at least the sshfs implementation which i would use sucks | 15:22 |
| cosmo | and with fuse you can use any application to access mounted shares | 15:23 |
| alterego | Well, I've used it a little. I wont now I've got fuse working. | 15:23 |
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| cosmo | fuse's weakness is lack of good gui and desktop integration | 15:24 |
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| alterego | I've got other ideas though for this app. I was thinking, when I first had the idea. Of being able to connect to two different servers, and copy files between them. But directly between them. | 15:24 |
| sp3000 | like ftp? | 15:24 |
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| alterego | sp3000, ? | 15:25 |
| _Monkey | hmmm... sp3000, is this a mockup as well? | 15:25 |
| cosmo | i don't think sftp supports that.. but you can always do some kind of hack | 15:26 |
| alterego | No SFTP doesn't support it. | 15:26 |
| cosmo | alterego: ftp supports server to server transfers | 15:26 |
| alterego | Didn't know that. | 15:26 |
| alterego | :) | 15:26 |
| gla55_ | fxftp'ing commonly known.. was used quite commonly to transfer files between public ftp's for the purpose of moving warez | 15:27 |
| alterego | Interesting .. | 15:28 |
| cosmo | but anyway simple sshfs mounting would be excellent for maemo.. you could store files on home server and access them via 'net | 15:29 |
| cosmo | watch videos over wlan etc | 15:29 |
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| alterego | Yeah | 15:32 |
| alterego | Well, I'm working on it now. | 15:32 |
| alterego | It'll give me a chance to test my hildon bindings. | 15:32 |
| alterego | The new and improved hildon bindings .. | 15:32 |
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| b0unc3 | hello | 15:40 |
| alterego | Hello pupnik | 15:40 |
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| pupnik | moo | 15:46 |
| alterego | baaaah | 15:46 |
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| lardman | kulve: You about? | 15:47 |
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| kulve | lardman: yup | 15:49 |
| lardman | kulve: you were trying pointer arithmetic weren't you? | 15:50 |
| kulve | yup | 15:50 |
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| lardman | is the dsp memory addressed in 16bit chunks then? | 15:50 |
| lardman | I'd assume it would be, as nothing smaller can be used | 15:51 |
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| kulve | yeah, I think it is | 15:57 |
| kulve | (i.e. I would guess so) | 15:57 |
| lardman | I suppose it doesn't matter as if I have a char/int pointer, it will be incremented by sizeof(char) anyway | 15:57 |
| kulve | sizeof(char) == 1 | 15:58 |
| lardman | yes, and ==16bits | 15:59 |
| kulve | yeah | 15:59 |
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| lardman | I finally worked out that dsp_dld sends syslog messages | 16:00 |
| lardman | makes debugging a new dsptask a lot easier than my previous "look at the code even harder for the mistake" method :) | 16:01 |
| lardman | It's interesting that the tremor lowmem nobyte code still uses char pointers for things, seems to be that sort of assumes byte sizes | 16:02 |
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| kulve | you mean debug messages from dsp tasks? | 16:04 |
| kulve | or some debug messages produced by dsp_dld? | 16:04 |
| lardman | no, from the loader itself - when you try to open a task on the ARM side and get -1 as the answer, it tells you why | 16:04 |
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| kulve | ah, ok | 16:04 |
| kulve | I got my tasks usually loaded up ok, they just might not do anything ;) | 16:05 |
| lardman | :) | 16:05 |
| lardman | I was pulling my hair out getting odd messages in dmesg | 16:05 |
| lardman | and -1 from open() | 16:05 |
| lardman | I'll add that tip to the wiki page | 16:06 |
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| lardman | I've decided to strip the asm out of the vorbis task (it's for the C54 and I keep seeing worrying warnings, plus it's caused some symbol errors) | 16:09 |
| lardman | but now I need to fix the Tremor CRC routines that were previously asm, so they can handle 16bit chunks at a time | 16:10 |
| * lardman thinks that should be fun.... | 16:10 | |
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| lardman | hmm, no derf, any other vorbis experts about? | 16:13 |
| kulve | c55 should read c54 asm, if it's told that it's c54 asm. Iirc. | 16:15 |
| lardman | yes, but there are supposed to be things one needs to setup | 16:15 |
| lardman | and I wasn't too clear on how that would affect me | 16:15 |
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| lardman | plus the assembler spits out an awful lot of "check this c55 errata as it might not behave as designed" messages | 16:16 |
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| lardman | I'm tempted to leave the crc stuff as asm though, and see if it will work | 16:17 |
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| lardman | annoyingly oggpack_look is one that probably needs to be fiddled with to allow for 16bit char pointers, and is also the asm that was causing an error | 16:23 |
| lardman | this instruction for example: FCALLD #L$$SRU | 16:23 |
| lardman | produces an undefined variable (or something like that) error for L$$SRU, which is defined as .global L$$SRU | 16:24 |
| lardman | curiously this var is not set as far as I can tell | 16:24 |
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| lardman | http://pastebin.com/d69cceb7b anyone care to take a look and see what effect larger-than-8bit-chars would have on this code? | 16:33 |
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| SE-Wilco2 | Trying to log in to half/ebay seems to cause some WiFi connections to drop and Opera never completes the login in that situation. Is there a known problem? | 17:14 |
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| Mikho | hello. Is there some place where I could easily check what the gtk stock images in 770 look like? | 18:19 |
| ||cw | other than in the theme packages? | 18:21 |
| alterego | Uh oh .. | 18:21 |
| Mikho | I'm using libglade, but the icons in glade3 look different than in the application | 18:21 |
| Mikho | it depends on the current theme package? | 18:23 |
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| alterego | If they're default icons .. Yes. | 18:23 |
| Mikho | argh | 18:23 |
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| alterego | O_o | 18:24 |
| alterego | If you don't like it, use your own icons :) | 18:24 |
| Mikho | so, it's not a good idea to use gtk-cancel even if the picture fits my context, since the icon might change to something completely different in a different theme | 18:24 |
| flip^ | is there anywhere out there that has other themes available for an n800? I have the 4 stock themes, and that's about all i can find for it | 18:26 |
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| alterego | scratchbox doesn't like being installed into a seperate partition .. | 18:42 |
| alterego | Well, more like .. It doesn't like being _uninstalled_ from a seperate partition ^_^ | 18:42 |
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| mgedmin | eh? | 18:43 |
| alterego | It complains that it can't remove the /scratchbox directory because it's mounted. | 18:44 |
| mgedmin | I suspect scratchbox's bind mounts might interfere with naive uninstalling | 18:44 |
| mgedmin | yep, bind mounts | 18:44 |
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| guardian | it does | 18:54 |
| guardian | don't delete /scratchbox blindly | 18:54 |
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| guardian | as far as i remember you have to launch "/scrachtbox/sbin/sbox_ctl stop" first | 18:55 |
| guardian | flip^: i don't think there are much themes out there | 18:55 |
| flip^ | me either, except some valentines thing | 18:55 |
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| dorto | does anybody use the maemo live cd? is it stable? | 19:40 |
| dorto | or installing the scratchbox in debian/gentoo/slackware would be preferrable? | 19:40 |
| `0660 | at least installing to debian is possible :) | 19:41 |
| `0660 | it always breaks with /etc/resolv.conf but that one is easy to fix :) | 19:41 |
| dorto | ok :) | 19:42 |
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| `0660 | at least it shouldn't break anything | 19:42 |
| alterego | Cool .. I can now ssh into my tablet as 'user' :) | 19:43 |
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| Troseph | Connect to a Samba share from your n770. Is it possible? | 20:44 |
| alterego | Troseph, with fuse. YES! | 20:45 |
| alterego | :) | 20:45 |
| alterego | I'll upload the packages shortly :) | 20:45 |
| Troseph | Sweet. Now how do I do it. :) | 20:45 |
| alterego | Wait for my packages :) | 20:45 |
| Troseph | Sounds good | 20:45 |
| Troseph | i less than three you alterego | 20:45 |
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| alterego | Sorry? | 20:46 |
| Troseph | lol <3 | 20:46 |
| alterego | Oh., haha | 20:46 |
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| alterego | Oh, you want it on the n770 | 20:52 |
| alterego | I'm gonna have to work on that. | 20:52 |
| alterego | But don't worry, it should be ready in a few hours at the most :) | 20:52 |
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| [31d1] | why do i already have fuse on my 770? | 20:54 |
| [31d1] | or is your package for smb via fuse | 20:54 |
| alterego | Yeah, someone has already ported fuse. | 20:55 |
| troseph | ok | 20:55 |
| troseph | I'll wait for your package. | 20:55 |
| alterego | But it's for scirocco | 20:55 |
| troseph | ? | 20:55 |
| alterego | No idea when it was last updated/. | 20:56 |
| troseph | I am running OS2007 | 20:56 |
| alterego | Well, you could try his packages. | 20:57 |
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| cosmo | whee, got bluetooth keyboard working with 770 | 21:00 |
| cosmo | now where i can download openoffice | 21:00 |
| alterego | Hahah | 21:00 |
| ||cw | OOo is too fat for it | 21:01 |
| cosmo | abiword? | 21:01 |
| ||cw | aniwrod and gnumeric work well though | 21:01 |
| alterego | Wasn't there a port of Abiword and Gnumeric? | 21:01 |
| ||cw | yes | 21:01 |
| alterego | Nice | 21:01 |
| alterego | I didn't find them last time I went looking# | 21:02 |
| ||cw | they aren't in the downloads on maemo.org? | 21:02 |
| alterego | In the garage? | 21:02 |
| cosmo | indt has abiword | 21:02 |
| alterego | I couldn't find it in the Garage when I looked last. | 21:02 |
| ||cw | gnumeric is in the d/l | 21:03 |
| alterego | Yeah, I think it was Abiword I couldn't find. For the N800 | 21:04 |
| cosmo | hm, indt version is for n800 | 21:04 |
| ||cw | abi isn't in the downloads at all | 21:04 |
| dorto | Is anybody at Nokia working on creating a tool that will save the installed apps and settings that can be restored after OS updates? | 21:04 |
| dorto | Any news on that front? | 21:04 |
| alterego | dorto, not likely. | 21:05 |
| dorto | :( | 21:05 |
| alterego | App data you can backup./ | 21:05 |
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| alterego | But applications you'll just have to remember. | 21:05 |
| ||cw | you usualy need to install new versions anyway, and not all are available | 21:06 |
| dorto | ok, I will get into the habit of noting down the names and the repository links of the applications before doing an OS update. | 21:06 |
| dorto | yeah, right. | 21:06 |
| ||cw | is this for 770 or 800? http://www.nl.abisource.com/downloads/abiword/2.3.4/Linux/Maemo/ | 21:06 |
| flip^ | cosmo: you can run openoffice on a 770 if you forward it from another box ;) | 21:07 |
| cosmo | flip^: oh ok ;) | 21:08 |
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| flip^ | Ok... with synergy running on my n800, anyone know how can i stop my Return key from bringing up the thumb keyboard (note, i still want the button to bring it up when i'm not using synergy and a proper keyboard) | 21:09 |
| cosmo | damn.. the abisource abiword does not want to install | 21:12 |
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| * flip^ has not tried it on a 770 | 21:14 | |
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| flip^ | xand is my 770 guinea pig, but he doesn't know that yet | 21:14 |
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| * xand peers | 21:15 | |
| flip^ | ^^ | 21:15 |
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| xand | is there a way to make the number keypad on the onscreen keyboard the right way round? with 0 at the bottom... | 21:15 |
| xand | silly nokia getting all confused there :) | 21:16 |
| cosmo | btw i can recommend logitech dinovo edge keyboard, works also 100% on ubuntu | 21:17 |
| cosmo | even the volume thing | 21:17 |
| troseph | my apple keyboard works fine | 21:18 |
| troseph | with some work | 21:18 |
| flip^ | gah, every time i press return on my (normal) keyboard, even with the thumb keyboard turned off, it brings up the onscreen keyboard rather than doing a character return | 21:18 |
| flip^ | this makes synergy much less useful | 21:18 |
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| t_s_o | hmm, synergy on a N800?! | 21:34 |
| flip^ | yeah | 21:36 |
| flip^ | I've now hacked windows to turn Return into Enter, and it works much nicer | 21:36 |
| t_s_o | yep, thats the quick fix i guess. i had the same experience when testing vnc-ing onto my 770 | 21:38 |
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| t_s_o | ugh, why is it that some people seems to think that linux will allways be in a "catching up" state vs windows? | 21:39 |
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| SE-Wilco2 | Some people aren't aware of Microsoft promising to add features which were in Unix. 20 years ago. Well, MS did finally add subdirectories. | 21:40 |
| t_s_o | it seems mostly to have to do with apps, and support for proprietary solutions like ebooks... | 21:41 |
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| t_s_o | heh, synergy make me think of the VR5 tv series | 21:42 |
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| SE-Wilco2 | That's more like the accountants and startup programmers only being aware of MS tools. | 21:43 |
| SE-Wilco2 | I wonder how the OLPC dispersion will affect that. | 21:44 |
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| guardian | good evening | 21:44 |
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| t_s_o | SE-Wilco2: i guess it has some execs scared silly | 21:49 |
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| SE-Wilco2 | The two-week 1-for-2 OLPC activity will be interesting. I'm sure they'll report the number of sales quickly. | 21:50 |
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| t_s_o | strange that synergy do not have a keypress remapping system buildt in | 21:55 |
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| saaib | t_s_o, it would be interesting to know what set of standar key mapping synergy should implement :) | 22:13 |
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| konttori | interesting news at maemo news. | 22:26 |
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| alterego | Ooo. New tablet? | 22:27 |
| guardian | url konttori please ? | 22:28 |
| alterego | Meh, that could be anything. | 22:29 |
| flip^ | it has integrated GPS tho :) | 22:29 |
| konttori | http://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/ | 22:29 |
| alterego | Now that is worth upgrading for .. | 22:29 |
| flip^ | linux, but not necessarily maemo | 22:30 |
| alterego | I'd imagine it's most definitely Mameo. | 22:30 |
| alterego | ~Maemo | 22:30 |
| infobot | maemo is probably a development platform to create applications for Nokia 770 Internet Tablet and other maemo compliant handheld devices in the future. http://www.maemo.org/ | 22:30 |
| pupnik | what is a CNC-ID? | 22:30 |
| alterego | I think that's GSM | 22:30 |
| alterego | or HSCDC or whatever .. | 22:30 |
| guardian | thx | 22:30 |
| konttori | when was monkey renamed as infobot? | 22:30 |
| flip^ | It's Midinux, rather than Maemo | 22:30 |
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| alterego | Hmm, interesting. | 22:31 |
| flip^ | still Hildon tho | 22:31 |
| alterego | Probably not an Internet Tablet then .. | 22:31 |
| alterego | Oh, really? | 22:31 |
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| flip^ | www.elektrobit.com/index.php?599 | 22:31 |
| t_s_o | hmm, could it be the wimax equiped spint aimed variant? | 22:32 |
| SE-Wilco2 | s/monkey/infobot/ | 22:32 |
| konttori | what is that elektrobit device? | 22:33 |
| SE-Wilco2 | Does someone have a barcode reader to decode what's in the corner of that label? | 22:34 |
| flip^ | its the one linked from maemo.org/news | 22:34 |
| flip^ | which label? | 22:34 |
| SE-Wilco2 | The RX-44 label. http://tabletblog.com/2007/09/third-nokia-internet-tablet-hits-fcc.html | 22:34 |
| flip^ | i don't´think its clear enough | 22:35 |
| flip^ | nah, can't get anything out of it | 22:36 |
| konttori | so, is the tabletblog referring to that EB device? | 22:36 |
| konttori | looks really interesting | 22:37 |
| flip^ | i dunno... i was looking at maemo.org/news... didn't tablet blog til just then | 22:37 |
| t_s_o | that EB device is a oem style device that can be sold under different brands. kinda like how asus makes laptop shells that can be used to create laptops of different brands | 22:39 |
| onion | it's ugly... | 22:40 |
| konttori | And has Intel chip and linux os. | 22:40 |
| SE-Wilco2 | The FCC filing might have a more detailed PDF of the barcode. | 22:40 |
| cosmo | i think i know what's the new nokia device, but sorry nda | 22:40 |
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| cosmo | EB device looks expensive but nice | 22:51 |
| cosmo | if they get a decent user interface for it | 22:51 |
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| t_s_o | moblin? | 23:01 |
| t_s_o | as in, the interface seen on a benq mid recently | 23:02 |
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| pupnik | I hope a lot of the people here are working on cool stuff for the next Tablet that they aren't allowed to talk about :) | 23:06 |
| pupnik | if only to provide some cosmic balance to those of us who talk a lot and don't do much :P | 23:07 |
| t_s_o | heh | 23:07 |
| t_s_o | well there is the games ;) | 23:07 |
| t_s_o | btw, a certain webpage seems to crash mozilla on my 770 whenever i attempt to access it... | 23:08 |
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| KungPhoo | hi | 23:08 |
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| pupnik | which one? | 23:11 |
| t_s_o | yours i belive | 23:12 |
| t_s_o | crap crap crap. turned it on, tried to connect it to the wifi. it goes into a reboot, and now it does not transision into the load animation! | 23:14 |
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| KungPhoo | is this for nokia 770 / n800? | 23:15 |
| KungPhoo | ah - see the topic - sorry | 23:15 |
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| KungPhoo | does anyone have a 770 with the hacked OS 7 version? | 23:16 |
| t_s_o | and i had it reflashed not two weeks ago! | 23:16 |
| KungPhoo | is it bad? | 23:16 |
| t_s_o | hmm, unplugging the battery helped ;) | 23:17 |
| t_s_o | KungPhoo: my ranting is fully unrelated to os2007 ;) | 23:17 |
| KungPhoo | lol. K | 23:17 |
| pupnik | t_s_o: that's bad. A coupla days ago i changed software.html and links.html to have fixed backgrounds. That may cause problems? Doesn't here (firefox 2.0.0.6 and opera on the tablet) | 23:19 |
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| t_s_o | dont know what it is but neither turning of javascript or images helps | 23:19 |
| t_s_o | btw, whats this webcore entry on the "hidden" menus? | 23:20 |
| pupnik | well a page like http://pupnik.de/pingus.html should work as they always did. So would index.html. But if software.html causes crashes, i'll undo the fixed background hack. | 23:21 |
| pupnik | If you could confirm that, it would be appreciated. | 23:21 |
| t_s_o | i aim my bookmark at index.html. or in other words, i dont specify a file | 23:22 |
| t_s_o | ugh, thats one confused line | 23:22 |
| t_s_o | the bookmark i had was to http://pupnik.de/ so it would be index.html that makes mozilla crash. opera worked fine | 23:23 |
| pupnik | what version of mozilla? | 23:23 |
| t_s_o | the pingus page worked | 23:24 |
| t_s_o | microb 1.0.1 | 23:24 |
| alterego | Works fine on my N800 | 23:25 |
| alterego | With Opera and MicroB | 23:25 |
| t_s_o | interesting, when i entered about:about, i got a error page. but when i enter a url that cant be reached i get a (looped) error message about a missing chrome file... | 23:25 |
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| alterego | Interesting .. | 23:26 |
| pupnik | maybe it's the recursive link i had on there | 23:27 |
| pupnik | removed it. | 23:27 |
| alterego | Heh | 23:27 |
| pupnik | maybe microb does some strange prefetching - i duno | 23:27 |
| t_s_o | dont think prefetching is activeated | 23:28 |
| alterego | Where do I get libsdl-net? | 23:30 |
| _Monkey | rumour has it libsdl-net is http://pupnik.de/libsdl-net1.2_1.2.5-7_armel.deb (IT2006, but works on 2007) | 23:30 |
| alterego | Nice | 23:30 |
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| alterego | pupnik, libsdl-net on your deps page is broken :/ | 23:32 |
| alterego | Erm, the link is broken. | 23:32 |
| pupnik | ok ty | 23:32 |
| t_s_o | well this was unexpected. when i entered http://pupnik.de/index.html the page showed up fine. but going to http://pupnik.de/ made mozilla crash | 23:32 |
| alterego | pupnik, and so is _monkey ;) | 23:33 |
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| alterego | Could you point me to libsdlnet ? | 23:33 |
| pupnik | hrm i understand teh problem with the deps.html | 23:34 |
| t_s_o | hmm, im getting very incosisted behavior here. when i opened up the bookmark manager and used that to open the page, it worked fine. but browser crashed when trying to do anything | 23:34 |
| alterego | pupnik, the files are not there? :) | 23:35 |
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| pupnik | http://pupnik.de/deps/deps.html | 23:37 |
| alterego | Hah | 23:37 |
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| pupnik | the site works great with links, t_s_o :) | 23:39 |
| alterego | You don't have a app launcher item :( | 23:39 |
| t_s_o | heh, noted. sadly it cant be integrated into the browser ui, not can minimo | 23:40 |
| pupnik | you mean .install files? | 23:40 |
| alterego | It's not showing up in the application menu | 23:40 |
| alterego | How do I run twm? | 23:40 |
| pupnik | i just install the debs with dpkg -i | 23:40 |
| alterego | Yeah, done that. | 23:40 |
| pupnik | for application menus, i hope to get that done by like . christmas | 23:41 |
| alterego | Heh | 23:41 |
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| alterego | How do I start the game? | 23:41 |
| pupnik | xterm - or use load-applet-run to run the command | 23:41 |
| t_s_o | ugh, i wish that opera would highlight what link you click on, even if its a image or similar. besides that i dont really need mozilla for much (well, there is the javascript support) | 23:41 |
| alterego | Erm. I mean. What's the command?! | 23:41 |
| pupnik | for what game alterego ? | 23:42 |
| alterego | tmw | 23:42 |
| pupnik | tmw | 23:42 |
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| alterego | O_O | 23:42 |
| alterego | It doesn't work .. | 23:42 |
| pupnik | ok lemme see if i scerweedded that up | 23:42 |
| pupnik | ~ $ which tmw | 23:43 |
| pupnik | /usr/bin/tmw | 23:43 |
| alterego | I get nothing .. | 23:43 |
| pupnik | if you have an older build, it might be in /usr/games/tmw | 23:43 |
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| alterego | Nope. | 23:44 |
| alterego | Oh wait, yes it is. | 23:44 |
| pupnik | yeah i gotta move that to /usr/bin | 23:44 |
| pupnik | you can do that yourself, as root | 23:44 |
| alterego | Not full screen either :/ | 23:44 |
| xela | hey all, can anybody point me to docs about power management in the Nokia 770? | 23:45 |
| alterego | And no way to enter user/pass ^_^ | 23:45 |
| solmumaha | use xkbd | 23:45 |
| alterego | Anychance of a fullscreen version? :) | 23:46 |
| solmumaha | it's a config thing | 23:47 |
| alterego | Ah | 23:47 |
| solmumaha | but i didn't get xkbd working on fullscreen | 23:47 |
| alterego | Right | 23:47 |
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| pupnik | i will look to see if i can get fullscreen toggle going easily/quickly | 23:51 |
| pupnik | then you can start in window, use xkbd to login, then play in fullscreen | 23:52 |
| alterego | Right | 23:52 |
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| alterego | Can you use the config so you don't have to enter the details? | 23:52 |
| pupnik | oh yeahh | 23:53 |
| pupnik | and you can give username/pass from commandline too i think | 23:53 |
| pupnik | silly | 23:53 |
| alterego | Heh | 23:53 |
| alterego | I've not registered though :/ | 23:53 |
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