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__pvany people using xkbd on n800? does pressing return on xkbd pop up the Maemo virtual keyboard for you?00:22
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[31d1]yikes! lots of people00:39
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[31d1]wondering if anyone knows of a package of diffutils for 77000:44
[31d1]i couldn't find one - and managed to compile some working binaries00:45
[31d1]and i'll figure out how to make a .deb if it's really the case that no one has bothered to do it already00:45
[31d1]but i have a hard time believing no one has needed diff yet00:46
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sullyHey peeps. Dumb question no doubt, but has anyone tried YouTube Mobile on their 770/800? http://m.youtube.com/01:53
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sullyIt's a RealPlayer link so you'd think it'd work?01:53
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NeoStriderwhats up, folks?01:54
sullyhey NeoStrider01:54
_MonkeyNeoStrider is, like, probably building you a checkers game as we speak :)01:54
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[31d1]m.youtube didnt work on my 77001:55
NeoStrideryes01:55
sullyhmm, mine either. too bad.01:55
NeoStriderand even if it worked, would be too slow01:55
* NeoStrider just made AngsTRON a little faster01:57
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UniqueMobilR.I.P thinkpad t41p...04:49
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lle2hey, those that demand a "better touchscreen", is it that you want a more sensitive or more accurate or both? How would you characterize "better"?09:33
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zuh"multitouch" ;)09:37
tsoye gods09:40
tsowhy not we all just go and buy ourselfs "ipod touch"?09:41
tsoheh, itt seems to be buzzing with ipod talk...09:42
pupnikis there an anti-shake filter for mencoder?  google is just giving me a bunch of windows software - or any anti-shake software for *nix?09:45
* pupnik agrees with lle2 - 'better touchscreen' is too vague to even register09:46
pupnikmine works just fine, thank you09:46
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pupnikso far the only thing i found was virtualdub for wine, which supposedly has a plugin for anti-shake09:58
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keesjGoede morgen11:03
guru3Good morning11:05
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AD-N770good morning11:17
pupnikmorning AD-N77011:23
keesjfunny thinking of if , the ipod "wheel" really looks like the old school phones that had the round number thing11:23
tsoah, pulse based dialing...11:27
keesjyes, my english is still not that good, and irc'ing does't rly help :p11:29
janiircing is really bad for written english in my case =)11:29
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pupnikI'd like to see a comparison of standard written english test scores between European students (who take it as a second language) and americans11:32
inzI wouldn't, I already concider yankees inferior ;)11:34
janithey cant even spell colour =)11:36
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UniqueMobilinferior11:45
UniqueMobilan where are you from inz?11:45
UniqueMobilpupnik the comparison would not work.  2 different type of english.11:45
UniqueMobilinz, you were denied entry to the states or something?11:46
UniqueMobilfamily member killed in a war the US was involved un11:46
UniqueMobil?11:46
pupnikActually the pisa study has a test of standard english (TSE) that has been adapted to both US and British english11:47
pupnikA quick web search didn't turn up results though11:47
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pupnikIn reading proficiency (native language) Finland is #1.  USA is slightly above european average.  And germany is below average.  :P11:51
pupnikhttp://www.oecd.org/document/8/0,2340,en_2649_34515_2675400_1_1_1_1,00.html11:51
inzUnique, see the ";)" at the end of the line11:55
inzUnique, and the only time I went to US, I was granted entry11:55
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UniqueMobilwinky or no winky, still an insult to call a people inferior..11:58
janigermany has so many immigrants so i guess thats why they have lower score..11:59
UniqueMobilusually when comments like that are made. person has a grudge against america because of something.11:59
inzUnique, I only dislike the president12:00
UniqueMobilhe is a yankee...no doubt about that..12:01
UniqueMobilinferior..????12:01
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inzUnique, bad choice of words, I'm sorry about that12:02
inzUnique, didn't mean to insult anyone12:02
inzUnique, I do not concider anyone to be inferior or superior12:03
UniqueMobilim not american..12:03
UniqueMobiljust a proud resident..12:03
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LynoureFinnish is easy to read :)12:12
zeenixLynoure: yeah! right12:12
Lynourezeenix: On se. :)12:13
UniqueMobilthe president is from texas..way too much sun..i know its not the best excuse... but im sticking to it, inz12:13
zeenixLynoure: try pronouncing 'hyvää yötä' correctly12:13
Lynourezeenix: Mä olen syntyperäinen, oikeasti.12:14
Lynourezeenix: I'm a native, it's easy.12:14
Lynourezeenix: there is pretty much 1 to 1 mapping between spelling and pronouncing, unlike in English.12:15
pyhimysghoti anyone?12:16
Lynourepyhimys: some ghoti is really good, halibut especially. :)12:16
zeenixLynoure: oh! that is different than, easy for you to say12:16
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zeenixLynoure: what you mentioned is pretty much the only 'easy' thing about finnish12:17
Lynourezeenix: yes, I did mean it's objectively an easy native language to read (as the reading proficiency was tested with natives reading their own language)12:17
Lynourezeenix: well, the grammar is also very regular.12:18
UniqueMobilLynoure, what is ghoti?12:18
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pyhimysUniqueMobil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoti12:18
UniqueMobilthanks12:19
Juhazand it _follows_ the grammar rules, there are no ten billion weird exceptions for no reason like in English.12:20
* zeenix wishes his parents knew about finland and that he'll move there12:20
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UniqueMobilthe ten billion weird exceptions for no reason.12:24
Lynourezeenix: you can move here yourself, at some point, if you wish :)12:24
zeenixLynoure: i already have, 2 year ago :)12:24
Lynourezeenix: oh, misunderstood you then :)12:25
UniqueMobilamerican englisg12:25
UniqueMobilor12:25
UniqueMobilbritish, old english12:25
Lynourehmmm, lunch is over, gotta go again12:26
zuhLynoure: zeenix is just sore since he has trouble learning finnish ;)12:27
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zeenixzuh: kyllä13:16
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Lynourezuh: I have been thinking of making a Finnish teaching podcast, like 'Laura speaks Dutch' is for Dutch13:50
celestehheh, i listen to laura speaks dutch13:50
Lynourecelesteh: I do too, my beloved husband is Dutch and I'm trying to learn :)13:51
celestehit's not helping me too much, but i'm not making an effort, really13:52
celestehalthough now i can manage restaurant interactions13:52
* celesteh wishes everybody would learn esperanto13:52
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* keesj wishes everybody would learn dutch :p14:36
keesjwhy not just one language!14:36
lardmansurely everyone should learn the language that has the most users who are unable to learn anything else14:36
lardmanthe Dutch have shot themselves in the foot - they are too good14:37
suihkulokkikeesj: yes, and that should be finnish, obviously14:37
lardmanso Enlgish it is ;)14:37
lardmanor even English14:37
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keesjI also would go for a language what has one 5 letters or so14:38
keesjso I can type with one hands or even my feet14:39
keesjmy feets are doing nothing all day long !14:40
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pupnik:)14:41
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wahlauhi14:43
_Monkeysalut, wahlau14:43
wahlaumy first time here14:43
wahlau:)14:43
wahlauanyone plays with kinetic scroll here?14:44
wahlaui just tried maro's script14:44
keesjwahlau: there is a media player doing it kagu perhaps?14:45
wahlauyeaj14:45
wahlaui first saw it there14:45
wahlauthen now almost every media player using it14:46
wahlau.)14:46
wahlaujust wanna share the experience14:46
wahlauit is nice, but i don't feel it usable at this extend...14:46
wahlauthe scroll is kind of, urhm, sluggish14:46
wahlauany idea why?14:46
keesjit's trally better with a captive sensor14:46
wahlauoic14:46
keesjreally14:47
wahlauso it has something to do with the screen instead?14:47
keesjthe physics , and the way touch is detected.14:47
wahlauthat is what i have in mind14:48
wahlauwould it be possibel for me to study the values captured by the screen14:48
keesj"some" devices can detect when you are "hovering" over the screen , you don't really have to touch it that hard14:48
wahlauand translate that into motion14:48
wahlauthat might in return help the whole kinetic thing :)14:48
wahlaubut again, i am not really a fan of the kinetic thing14:48
keesjit is adictive , you just start to play with it14:49
keesjit's sexy14:49
wahlauoic14:49
wahlau:)14:49
wahlauany python programmer here?14:49
wahlaui am wonder is it possible to draw a layer on top of another?14:49
guardianhmm, scratchbox was working for weeks (i did not reboot the computer) now after a reboot i get "Scratchbox is not properly set up!" error on /scratchbox/login14:49
guardianany idea please ?14:50
keesjI really like the raemo and other stuff I see comming14:50
suihkulokkiguardian: ..run the initscript14:50
keesjguardian: and you started sbox ?14:51
wahlauraemo?14:51
janiguardian: you are not perhaps inside scratchbox allready ? =))14:51
keesjhttp://raemo.garage.maemo.org/ and http://pluthon.garage.maemo.org/14:52
keesjit really looks like python is the choice for the next generation maemo stuff14:53
guardiani just rebooted14:55
guardiantried /scratchbox/login to go on my dev ...14:55
guardiancrap ...14:55
guardianback in time i installed it using the holly 3.1 script14:55
guardiani'm not sure it eases the developer's life in the end :D14:56
guardianit just worked smoothly before i rebooted :(15:00
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suihkulokki14:50 < suihkulokki> guardian: ..run the initscript15:01
keesjthe unofficial maemo ui guidelines http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dfrtdqv5_7hp33bq&pli=115:01
keesjhorrible!15:01
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keesjeivel dialogs with "cancel/ok" or worse , dialogs with only "ok" ,15:03
keesj:tap "OK" to update the facebook or close to close the application"15:04
keesjis it a joke?15:04
guardiansuihkulokki: sorry i missed this line15:05
suihkulokkianyways, everyone have a nice weekend15:07
wahlausame to you too15:11
MoRpHeUzguardian: yeah, try to /etc/init.d/scratchbox-core restart15:13
MoRpHeUzit should help (helped me anyway)15:13
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guardiani have no such script, but running /scratchbox/run_me_first.sh again helped15:15
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MoRpHeUzguardian: hhmm...ok...for some reason there is something that screws up my scratchbox config at startup and I always need to run this "start script" when I boot my machine15:16
guardiani never had problems when i installed scratchbox myself using apt. but i upgraded the box so i reinstalled everything and reinstalled scratchbox using the script provided by maemo.org15:17
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MoRpHeUzkulve: hey!15:47
kulveMoRpHeUz: hey15:49
MoRpHeUzkulve: have some good news for you regarding that gmyth stuff...probably it's not 100% yet due to some osso-media-engine bugs but as soon as osso release a fix for that we will have it fully working for the device...15:50
MoRpHeUzkulve: I'm going to make a post on my blog in the next hour....just take a look at that ok ? =) I wanted you to be the first one to know as you helped me so much with tests =)15:50
kulve"so much".. ;)15:52
kulveMoRpHeUz: I can read it, but I might be off to home soon and then I'm off to afk, so I might not be able to read it :/15:53
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MoRpHeUzkulve: hhmm..that's ok...so read when you can =)15:53
kulveI will :)15:55
MoRpHeUzgreat! =)15:55
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develneubeehello all, does the n800 use the bluetooth's Sim Access Profile to sync all the contacts from a phone ?16:01
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kernhi, anybody alive here ?16:08
kernneed some help with maemo theme16:08
* celesteh is deceased16:08
kernjust installed hildon-theme-plankton and dependencies, but application still complains about some missing icons: qgn_plat_home_border_left.png, qgn_plat_home_search_bg_alpha.png, etc...16:08
kernwhere can I get these icons ?16:09
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qgilhi, fast poll: many Hacker Edition users around?16:17
qgilI see, bad timing16:21
c0ffeenot me16:21
c0ffeei'm using the old software on my 77016:21
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qgilhi c0ffee16:21
c0ffeehi qgil16:21
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qgilwell, I just wanted to announce here the new HE edition available for download, a scoop for some seconds  :)16:23
c0ffeehurray16:24
alpqgil: hey, if you're going to syndicate my blog could you make sure that posts don't get attributed to "Unknown author"? thanks16:24
qgilhttp://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/1189171468.html16:30
qgilalp, I asked you to send me your maemo.org userid precisely to avoid this16:30
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alpqgil: don't think i have one16:31
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qgilalp: then create one  :)16:31
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qgilthat's all folks! see you later16:33
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alphow about, no?16:34
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keesjgreat news16:36
keesjno flash at all? Adobe Flash browser plugin16:36
cosmowell, youtube wouldn't work anyway16:37
cosmoand all other flash is just useless ads etc16:37
inzAnd flash sucks anyway16:37
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keesjnot a youporn.com use then?16:38
keesjuser16:38
cosmodoes it work on 770?16:38
keesjno , no really16:38
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GSsomeone has installed kismet on os2007he?17:55
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pupnik_GS someone surely has.  What is your question?18:52
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* pupnik_ feels silly running desktop computers which suck hundreds of watts, while much of the functionality can be done by an ARM with a few watts18:56
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saaibmorninig everyone18:59
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JaffaMorning, all19:20
celestehyo19:20
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Sho_cool, the input method was finally released ... maybe we're finally going to get some working non-GTK+ toolkits for it20:59
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JaffaSho_: or some better input methods, more likely.21:19
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ffoegboycan anyone recomend a flexible keyboaed that works with n800?21:55
sx|lappydescribe "flexible"21:55
ffoegboyrollup21:56
sx|lappyhaven't seen any such bt kb yet21:57
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ffoegboyi have seen some bluetooth ones on net, would any bluetooyh kd work?21:58
Piohttp://www.skymall.com/shopping/detail.htm?pid=102156154&c=21:59
milhouseffoegboy - must support HID Profile22:00
Pioi dont know that the one i linked does22:00
ffoegboywhat is HID profile?22:00
celestehHID is a standard for how interface deviced talk to computers22:01
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ffoegboyok thanks22:01
milhouseKeyboard typically use either HID or SPP (Serial Port Profile) to connect over Bluetooth... SPP is the older way of doing things, and not supported natively by the N80022:02
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milhouses/Keyboard/Keyboards/22:02
infobotmilhouse meant: Keyboards typically use either HID or SPP (Serial Port Profile) to connect over Bluetooth... SPP is the older way of doing things, and not supported natively by the N80022:02
ffoegboyPio: yhat is what i want, do you know if its HID compat.22:04
Pio<Pio> i dont know that the one i linked does22:04
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ffoegboyok i will check it out, thanks22:06
||cwgiven that they feature a treo, I'd bet it's spp22:09
ffoegboyif i found one that was windows ce compatable, would that be HID or SPP?22:10
milhouseoh yes, that roll up keyboard is SPP22:11
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milhouseSpec shee: http://www.eleksen.com/assets/PDFs/brochuresJUNE07/brc_ultra_portable_Bluetooth_keyboard.pdf22:12
milhouses/shee/sheet/22:12
infobotmilhouse meant: Spec sheet: http://www.eleksen.com/assets/PDFs/brochuresJUNE07/brc_ultra_portable_Bluetooth_keyboard.pdf22:12
milhouseThere is a hack to add SPP Keyboard support, used to work in OS 2006 dunno about OS 200722:13
keesjspp?22:14
milhousehere: http://770.fs-security.com/maemo-bt-plugin/22:14
milhouseAlso here: http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#kbdd22:15
milhouseLooks like the latter has OS 2007 support22:15
keesjin 2007 support for bluetooth keyboard that implement the hid standards are part of the maemo platform22:16
milhouseyes, but not keyboards using SPP22:17
keesjfor the "serial" one you need kbdd indeed with the kernel uinput module yes22:17
keesjwhat keyboard did you get?22:17
milhouseffoegboy is asking about this kb which only supports SPP: http://www.skymall.com/shopping/detail.htm?pid=102156154&c=22:19
milhousehe wants a "flexible" keyboard22:19
ffoegboymilhouse: is there a rollup kb that supports hid profile?22:19
keesjsexy22:20
straind`Has anyone gotten anything set up using SPP?22:20
milhousethere is the Stowaway Sierra - not roll up, but it does fold in half into a little case... http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=14406922:20
milhousethe only roll up kb i could find was the eleksen - same one you found.22:21
milhousebut i didn't look long...22:21
straind`I have a barcode scanner that uses SPP and I'd like to figure out how to connect it.22:21
milhousei've got the sierra - don't use it though22:21
milhousea bt keyboard is more hassle than it's worth unless you intend to do some heavy duty typing22:21
ffoegboymilhouse: how do you input into n800?22:21
milhousevirtual kb22:22
keesjI used on for a very short time and gave up22:22
keesjit was a serial one22:22
milhousethe Sierra is HID, worked straight away - still too much hassle. :)22:22
ffoegboymilhouse: isnt that slow? i have just purchased a n800 but havrnt got it yet22:22
milhouseis what slow? the virtual kb? yes, it's slower than typing with a keyboard but it has the advantage of me not having to carry a keyboard or balance it on my lap or get up and get it or...22:23
keesjI love to program and I have yet to find the correct language to program while not sitting behind a desk22:23
milhousesince i don't tend to type novels into my n800, it's not a problem using the virtual kb22:23
ffoegboymilhouse: maybe i should try it for a couple of weeks before looking for a kb22:25
milhousei suggest you do, you could save yourself some money22:25
keesjffoegboy: the fun thing with the thumb keyboard is that you can type standing22:25
ffoegboymilhouse: are you on the n800 now?22:25
milhouseno22:25
milhouseno way would i bother using irc on a n800...22:25
ffoegboykeesj: thumb kb?22:25
keesjor sitting in the tram, but it the keyboard is detached from the device (n800 in this case) you reall need a table , I can't even really use the keyboard in bed and I have spend enough money on a good bt keyboard22:26
ffoegboykeesj: do you mean the virtuak kb?22:27
keesjffoegboy the on screen / full screen keyboard that pop's up22:27
ffoegboykeesj: ok22:27
ffoegboyi only speek english and have ordered the n800 from germany, will the operating system be in english or german?22:28
keesjyou can choose at startup22:29
milhouseyou might get a german keyboard...22:29
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ffoegboymilhouse: i wonder if that can be changed since its virtual22:30
milhousesorry i thought you were referring to your BT keyboard22:30
ffoegboymilhouse: no. i havent got a bt kb yet22:30
milhousethere is only one OS version for the N800 - you select the language on first boot22:31
ffoegboymilhouse: can it be changed after the first boot if you want?22:31
milhouseyes22:31
milhousechange the language/local in the control panel22:31
_Monkeymilhouse: that doesn't look right22:31
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ffoegboymilhouse: cool22:32
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straind`Hmmm.  Suicidal _Monkey.22:33
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milhousetoo right... no idea what's going on there22:33
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straind`maemo?22:33
_Monkeymaemo is at maemo.org or Open Source Software22:33
straind`Maybe he'll stick around now...22:33
milhousemaybe...22:34
milhousemust have been an irc thing... we're both on the same connection here.22:34
straind`Make him feel useful. :P22:34
milhouseirc == freenode22:34
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ffoegboyi am going to get an 8gb sdhc card, is there any difference in the different brands?22:38
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ffoegboymilhouse: are you still there?22:54
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tru_who got Qt4 up and running on the n800?23:24
sx|lappyheretic ;D23:27
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keesjfunny garage is also used for "non-free" stuff23:45
keesjhttps://maemo.org/downloads/product/videocenter/23:45
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