| _Shurik_ | hm, so when I try to register for IPKall, it asks for SIP phone number | 00:00 |
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| nate12o6 | google talk does not use sip yet. and it doesnt provide a pstn gateway | 00:00 |
| Spec | ah, ok | 00:00 |
| _Shurik_ | how do I get that? | 00:00 |
| nate12o6 | _Shurik_ you get your sip number after you register the gizmo project | 00:00 |
| nate12o6 | _Shurik_: it is free to reg | 00:00 |
| _Shurik_ | I am registered with gizmodo | 00:00 |
| _Shurik_ | but I only have username though | 00:00 |
| _Shurik_ | crap | 00:00 |
| _Shurik_ | Gizmo I mean :-D | 00:00 |
| nate12o6 | go to gizmoproject.com and login | 00:00 |
| _Shurik_ | okay | 00:01 |
| nate12o6 | and it will give you all yoru info | 00:01 |
| _Shurik_ | ahha, let's seeee | 00:01 |
| _Shurik_ | so kewl | 00:01 |
| nate12o6 | now if i can get the voipbuster account working when i get off of work you will have free incomeing and outgoing calls. | 00:02 |
| Spec | nate12o6: are you often in this channel? | 00:02 |
| Spec | nate12o6: because one day i'm gonna bug you about getting voip working, but i'm working on something else first :o) | 00:02 |
| nate12o6 | Spec: i will probably be hanging out a little more to find someone to help me get the pptp working | 00:02 |
| nate12o6 | Spec: sure no prob | 00:03 |
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| ttuttle | Is it "okay" to upgrade packages from Hacker 2007 with replacements from nokia's or maemo's bora repositories? | 00:03 |
| nate12o6 | its very eassy to set up | 00:03 |
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| Spec | so what qemu-arm should i use to cross compile onto the n770? | 00:04 |
| _Shurik_ | wtf! Kicked me off into Effnet server | 00:05 |
| _Shurik_ | wicked | 00:05 |
| Spec | choices are: qemu-arm-0.7.0-sb2, qemu-arm-0.8.0-m2, qemu-arm-0.8.0-sb2, qemu-arm-0.8.1-sb2, qemu-arm-0.8.2-sb2, qemu-armeb-0.8.1-sb2, qemu-armeb-0.8.2-sb2 | 00:05 |
| nate12o6 | Spec: are you asking me? | 00:05 |
| Spec | nope, asking the channel | 00:06 |
| nate12o6 | _Shurik_: did you get it working? | 00:06 |
| pupnik | i never saw those armeb's | 00:06 |
| pupnik | i am using qemu-arm-0.8.1-sb2 | 00:06 |
| Spec | if it works for you, i'mma use the same one :o) | 00:07 |
| pupnik | you can set up additional targets, with different cpu transparency, if that doesn't work for you | 00:07 |
| Spec | yeap | 00:07 |
| _Shurik_ | nate: I'm looking for a Gizmo Project SIP proxy name | 00:07 |
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| nate12o6 | proxy01.sipphone.com | 00:08 |
| _Shurik_ | proxy01.sipphone.com:5060 might be it | 00:08 |
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| _Shurik_ | ah thatnks | 00:08 |
| _Shurik_ | :) | 00:08 |
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| Tu13es | hm, does the n800 have a standby mode similar to sliding the case on the n770? | 00:09 |
| _Shurik_ | Offline mode + Lock screen/keys | 00:10 |
| _Shurik_ | Then carefully open back and slide out battery | 00:10 |
| _Shurik_ | j/k | 00:10 |
| _Shurik_ | :) | 00:10 |
| Dr_Nunim | It was a silly idea to take out the case in a later version. | 00:11 |
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| Dr_Nunim | That was a smart feature. | 00:11 |
| _Shurik_ | agree | 00:11 |
| Tu13es | ah, so offline and lock will do it? | 00:11 |
| _Shurik_ | Tu13es: yes | 00:11 |
| Tu13es | cool, ty | 00:11 |
| Tu13es | any suggestions for a screen protector or case for it? | 00:11 |
| _Shurik_ | screen protector from PSP (cut it a bit) | 00:12 |
| Tu13es | ah true | 00:12 |
| _Shurik_ | and I use Strongman Caselogic. It's kinda big, but I feel safe for n800 | 00:12 |
| Tu13es | hrm, I have a PSP with a screen protector, I wonder if I can take it off the PSP and put it on the n800.... | 00:12 |
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| _Shurik_ | Tu13es: They're not that expensive... | 00:14 |
| Dr_Nunim | I got a 770 protector on ebay for around $5 | 00:14 |
| _Shurik_ | plus, ever tried to re-use scotch tape? :) | 00:14 |
| Tu13es | :P | 00:14 |
| Dr_Nunim | Actually I got 2 | 00:14 |
| Spec | argh, i ran outta space on my / | 00:14 |
| _Shurik_ | actually some say that 770/n800 doesn't really need a screen protector | 00:14 |
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| _Shurik_ | and it's sort of blast from the past kinda habbit | 00:15 |
| Tu13es | meh, i'm too paranoid not to have one | 00:15 |
| Dr_Nunim | PSP needs one. | 00:15 |
| Dr_Nunim | I've got one on the DS touchscreen. | 00:15 |
| pupnik | 770 has a very tough polymer - forgot the name | 00:15 |
| _Shurik_ | and I've heard reports of no problem while not using any on 770 I think it was | 00:15 |
| _Shurik_ | but.. yes, I have one :) | 00:15 |
| * Jaffa has not used one on his 770 or N800 without problem. | 00:16 | |
| Tu13es | without problem do you mean the screen looks as it did on day 1 | 00:16 |
| Dr_Nunim | The 770 doesn't need one as mucb because it has the card case. | 00:16 |
| Tu13es | ? | 00:16 |
| Dr_Nunim | but I wouldn't toss an n800 into my pocket with phone and keys. | 00:16 |
| pupnik | I can't see any scratches yet - 8 months. | 00:16 |
| Dr_Nunim | hard case* | 00:17 |
| pupnik | I hope the 900 will have the case | 00:17 |
| Dr_Nunim | And more ram + stronger processor | 00:17 |
| Dr_Nunim | and a scroll wheel | 00:17 |
| pupnik | Right hand side buttons too | 00:17 |
| Dr_Nunim | Maybe an ice cream maker? | 00:17 |
| pupnik | Scroll wheel would be good - but you can tap-and-drag the webpages too | 00:18 |
| nate12o6 | lol | 00:18 |
| Spec | and a built-in laser bluetooth keyboard that projects from the base of the unit onto the desk it's laying on. | 00:19 |
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| Spec | err, i suppose it wouldn't need to be bluetooth in that case, actually. | 00:19 |
| ttuttle | Spec: Eww, no. | 00:19 |
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| ttuttle | Hahaha, netsplit. Suckers. | 00:20 |
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| pupnik | I'm opposed to any built-in keyboard. Bluetooth is the way to go. | 00:20 |
| nate12o6 | does anyone know if the Maemosized OpenVPN package can ack as a client or is it just a server? | 00:21 |
| ttuttle | nate12o6: OpenVPN is, by definition, both. I think. | 00:21 |
| nate12o6 | cool thanks | 00:21 |
| _Shurik_ | pupnik: why? BT consumes battery | 00:21 |
| gla55_ | magnetic clip on kb would be nice | 00:22 |
| Spec | and yet a built-in laser keyboard wouldn't? | 00:22 |
| gla55_ | like on that htc | 00:22 |
| gla55_ | http://www.europe.htc.com/products/htcadvantage.html on that one | 00:22 |
| Dr_Nunim | Just make a thumb board that plugs into usb like the 360 is getting. | 00:22 |
| unique311 | google grandcentral....good stuff.. | 00:23 |
| _Shurik_ | who offered that? | 00:23 |
| _Shurik_ | I'm against laser keyboards | 00:23 |
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| _Shurik_ | and _really_ the only time I miss a keyboard is while using rdesktop | 00:24 |
| gla55_ | i just want couple of hw buttons more to the device | 00:24 |
| gla55_ | to other side of screen.. for emus and games | 00:24 |
| ttuttle | gla55_: That'd be cool. | 00:24 |
| Dr_Nunim | I hate rdp | 00:25 |
| Dr_Nunim | but thats not it's fault | 00:25 |
| _Shurik_ | but.. bt is better then nothing. It would be a really nice to have case/keyboard combo | 00:25 |
| Dr_Nunim | I wish RDP worked like VNC | 00:25 |
| _Shurik_ | Dr_Nunim: in what way? | 00:26 |
| Dr_Nunim | Allow administrator login, don't end session etc | 00:26 |
| Dr_Nunim | better security protocols | 00:26 |
| _Shurik_ | then why not use VNC then? | 00:26 |
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| pupnik | nice design on that htc | 00:26 |
| _Shurik_ | they are just very different by their nature... | 00:27 |
| Dr_Nunim | VNC doesn't offer the same compatbility | 00:27 |
| _Shurik_ | hm... really? I haven't tried it yet though (VNC) | 00:27 |
| _Shurik_ | you need to install server for that, while rdesktop is ready to go | 00:27 |
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| Dr_Nunim | True. | 00:28 |
| _Shurik_ | and admin login.. that should be configurable | 00:28 |
| _Shurik_ | within host system | 00:28 |
| Dr_Nunim | I couldn't find a way but I didn't look too hard :p | 00:28 |
| _Shurik_ | it needs to have a password for one thing | 00:28 |
| _Shurik_ | But I just use an account with Admin status | 00:28 |
| _Shurik_ | that works just fine | 00:29 |
| Dr_Nunim | One of my boxes has a blank admin password and I just use that to login but RDP is no no | 00:29 |
| pupnik | df | 00:29 |
| pupnik | sorry :P | 00:29 |
| _Shurik_ | rdp won't login to admin with blank pass | 00:30 |
| Dr_Nunim | I know | 00:30 |
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| Dr_Nunim | That's why :( | 00:31 |
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| _Shurik_ | oh I see | 00:31 |
| _Shurik_ | well, some say that you shouldn't do installs etc via rdesktop anyway as it's not a true session | 00:32 |
| _Shurik_ | better do vnc for that | 00:32 |
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| Spec | i wish my 770 had text-to-speech for the cli | 00:37 |
| Spec | i mean | 00:37 |
| Spec | speech-to-text | 00:37 |
| pupnik | it does, festival-lite | 00:37 |
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| Spec | speech-to-text? | 00:38 |
| pupnik | oh sorry | 00:38 |
| pupnik | i looked for it | 00:39 |
| Spec | does anything do speech to text good? :p | 00:39 |
| pupnik | not much being done in open source speech recognition | 00:39 |
| _Shurik_ | text to speech | 00:39 |
| _Shurik_ | not other way | 00:40 |
| gla55_ | os/2 warp! | 00:40 |
| _Shurik_ | I did cat text.txt | /usb/bin/flite :-D | 00:40 |
| _Shurik_ | apparently sentences that separated by dot it reads in the same time :-D Weird | 00:40 |
| _Shurik_ | and it sounds like Hawking whose English is a second or third language | 00:41 |
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| Spec | hmm | 01:44 |
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| Spec | so i compiled some binaries and put them on n770 (via scp) | 01:44 |
| Spec | and when i go to "./mybinary' i get permission denied | 01:45 |
| Spec | but it's got the executable bit set, i'm root, and i'm in bash. | 01:45 |
| Spec | hmm, looks like i just can't execute off the sd card....what? | 01:46 |
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| ericz | Spec, just tried it myself | 01:50 |
| ericz | same thing | 01:51 |
| pupnik | correct | 01:54 |
| pupnik | can not execute off of card | 01:54 |
| ericz | why not? | 01:54 |
| pupnik | kernel prohibits it | 01:55 |
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| rebroad | hmmm, i think it kinda defeats the purpose of having a small device if one then goes and gets a bluetooth keyboard. i mean, how can it still be called a handheld device? | 02:04 |
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| rebroad | i prefer the microsoft on-screen keyboard to the n800 stylus keyboard. it's smaller, has two shift keys, and also arrow keys... | 02:06 |
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| ericz | i prefer typing over vnc or ssh from my desktop :P but that totally takes away the point of a handheld too | 02:11 |
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| rebroad | ericz, yup | 02:14 |
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| pupnik | the bluetooth keyboard is the same size as the 770. they both are pocketable | 02:22 |
| pupnik | having the bt keyboard does not prevent one-handed use | 02:22 |
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| volmarias | Hi, I'm trying to set up my N800 to use the http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ repository, but I'm getting an "Unable to refresh list" error upon attempting to refresh. Is what I'm trying to do really dumb? | 02:45 |
| pupnik | i have extras | 02:46 |
| pupnik | are you adding it in the application manager? | 02:46 |
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| volmarias | yes. I've added a new catalog, which I've named maemo. The web address is "http://repository.maemo.org/extras , distrobution bora, componants user | 02:47 |
| volmarias | ah, spotted the problem | 02:47 |
| volmarias | user should be free or non-free, right? :P | 02:47 |
| volmarias | I knew I did something dumb | 02:47 |
| volmarias | there we go, now it's working just fine :) | 02:48 |
| pupnik | good deal | 02:48 |
| ericz | hey, i never knew there was a full screen touch keyboard | 02:49 |
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| pupnik | if you want to test some new games and emus, you can find a bunch at http://pupnik.de | 02:49 |
| ericz | i shouldve actually read the manual | 02:49 |
| pupnik | i still need to read that | 02:50 |
| volmarias | I'm just interested in getting the essentials for now, thanks :) | 02:50 |
| volmarias | I'll be there when games and emus become the essentials :) | 02:50 |
| pupnik | ok. discussion is at internettablettalk.com forums | 02:51 |
| ericz | apparently, by tapping a text field with a finger, there's a full screen finger keyboard, neat. | 02:51 |
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| pupnik | yeah i'd be curious how that gets triggered | 02:51 |
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| ericz | its actually really hard to open | 02:52 |
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| ericz | i had to tap this box like 12 times and hold then tap again | 02:52 |
| pupnik | you can set it to be the default | 02:52 |
| GoatBoy | hi... i'm a little confused by the flasher utility... do I have to download all the images and stuff if all I want to do is set the USB port into host mode? | 02:52 |
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| pupnik | find a howto | 02:53 |
| ericz | the usb port doesn't offer power when it's in host mode, right? | 02:54 |
| ericz | like you either have to solder, or make a special cable? | 02:54 |
| GoatBoy | the howto's are not clear | 02:54 |
| GoatBoy | or the links are broken | 02:54 |
| GoatBoy | i don't want to reflash the whole thing, I just want to set it into USB mode | 02:55 |
| GoatBoy | and ericz yes you have to power the USB device | 02:55 |
| GoatBoy | i plan on using a cable from an external hard drive and a powered hub | 02:55 |
| GoatBoy | again, i just want to set it in host mode, not reflash the entire image if I don't have to | 02:56 |
| GoatBoy | the docs aren't very clear about this. | 02:56 |
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| nomis | GoatBoy: if you just want to change some flags you don't need to download any images. | 02:57 |
| nomis | GoatBoy: however, if usb-host mode needs a modified image (dunno, did not try this) then you of course would need to download this as well. | 02:58 |
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| GoatBoy | ok | 03:00 |
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| GoatBoy | FYI, I think cables like this: http://www.xpcgear.com/usbtype2atob.html | 03:04 |
| GoatBoy | plus one of those battery powered ipod chargers would work | 03:04 |
| GoatBoy | the extra connector on those cables are meant for power purposes | 03:05 |
| ericz | hey, tomorrows the 4th of july, isn't it? hrm | 03:10 |
| ericz | my watch is wrong | 03:10 |
| ericz | says the 2nd :/ stupid thing doesn't know 30 days from 31 | 03:10 |
| volmarias | yes | 03:10 |
| volmarias | tomorrow is the 4th | 03:11 |
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| volmarias | Alright, I've got a question. Where are all the libs hidden? I'm trying to install python2.5 runtime, and there are about 10 different libraries that I need to have first | 03:29 |
| volmarias | is there a repository in particular I should know about? | 03:29 |
| pupnik | yeah i saw all those python optional libs | 03:29 |
| volmarias | any suggestions? | 03:33 |
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| pupnik | install the core lib and ignore the optional ones | 03:34 |
| pupnik | then if your program says it's missing something, install that | 03:34 |
| Spec[770] | is it possible to set the wireless card's mac address? | 03:35 |
| volmarias | well, I can't find the core lib, which is the issue. | 03:35 |
| volmarias | Should I install maemo? | 03:35 |
| volmarias | I'm trying to see how much junk I can load myself down with before I start even pretending to hack at this | 03:35 |
| pupnik | yeah installing fun stuff is the first thing i did | 03:35 |
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| yzf600 | howdy | 04:14 |
| yzf600 | I just re-flashed my 770 for the 1st time | 04:14 |
| yzf600 | that was a breeze | 04:14 |
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| yzf600 | somehow the packages got all gorked up and would not install or un-install | 04:15 |
| yzf600 | just reflashed and I'm back in business. | 04:15 |
| yzf600 | anyone have gaim running successfully | 04:19 |
| ericz_ | yeah | 04:20 |
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| yzf600 | I installed gaim and then gaim-yahoo-protocol | 04:20 |
| yzf600 | I setup my account, but everytime I try to login, it tells me missing protocol plugin | 04:21 |
| ericz_ | i've never tried yahoo, but i switched to pidgin actually, :/ | 04:22 |
| yzf600 | ericz_: is it better than gaim? | 04:24 |
| ericz_ | its the same thing , gaim turned into pidginn because aol sued them, but pidgins newer | 04:25 |
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| yzf600 | oh, thats right | 04:25 |
| yzf600 | I forgot about that | 04:25 |
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| pupnik_ | install the missing protocol plugin then | 04:35 |
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| goat | anyone in here using openvpn on the n800? | 04:55 |
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| yzf600 | ok - so I removed gaim and went to install pidgin | 05:05 |
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| yzf600 | it fails because of missing dep: hildon-libs0 0.12.24-3 | 05:05 |
| cnc | im tryin to figure out where to get all these reps too | 05:06 |
| cnc | is there like an all inclusive one for the 770 | 05:06 |
| cnc | i found some base, but it doesnt have smbfs | 05:07 |
| cnc | yzf600: how is that bike? you touring on it? =D | 05:07 |
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| Niacin | anyone know where i could get wvdial for 7770? | 05:08 |
| Niacin | 770* | 05:08 |
| Niacin | i mean is there another apt source? | 05:08 |
| yzf600 | cnc: no, too busy at home and work to go for long rides | 05:12 |
| yzf600 | cnc: just commuting to work these days | 05:13 |
| cnc | ah, same here | 05:13 |
| cnc | i have my givis packed though, one of these weeks im going to escape | 05:14 |
| yzf600 | damn. I just relized that when I re-flashed, I used firmware 2.2, not the latest 3.2 | 05:15 |
| yzf600 | I'll bet this is causing my dep problems | 05:15 |
| Niacin | anyone got a 770 cross compiler setup? | 05:16 |
| pupnik_ | anybody and his brother can make a repository for the 770/800 | 05:16 |
| pupnik_ | i do | 05:16 |
| pupnik_ | you need wvdial? | 05:16 |
| cnc | how do you check what version firmware you have? | 05:16 |
| Niacin | could you compile me wvdial? ya man that would be really nice | 05:16 |
| Niacin | i have been working on this problem forever ;\ and turns out wvdial works perfect | 05:16 |
| yzf600 | cnc: I'm not sure. | 05:16 |
| cnc | 3.2006-49.2, is this 2.0? | 05:16 |
| pupnik_ | you have googled for it, i hope Niacin ? | 05:17 |
| Niacin | ya but there is no arm port of it | 05:17 |
| Niacin | well not port | 05:17 |
| Niacin | but arm package | 05:17 |
| Niacin | unless there is another apt source that has it? i couldnt find it | 05:17 |
| pupnik_ | you might have to download the .deb manually | 05:18 |
| pupnik_ | Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 591 for wvdial maemo. | 05:18 |
| Niacin | yeah but nothing of use | 05:19 |
| pupnik_ | <maddler> I'm using wvdial, and everything works fine | 05:19 |
| Niacin | so where did the package come from? | 05:19 |
| Niacin | i can't find arm deb anywhere | 05:19 |
| pupnik_ | i don't know | 05:20 |
| Niacin | how do i install .deb files? just dpkg-deb --install ? | 05:24 |
| ericz | dpkg -i *.deb | 05:25 |
| Niacin | ya gives me some error about being for arm instead of armtel | 05:26 |
| Niacin | or otherway around | 05:26 |
| ericz | :/ | 05:26 |
| Niacin | armel* | 05:26 |
| cnc | anyone know which repository has smbfs? | 05:29 |
| yzf600 | craptacular | 05:38 |
| yzf600 | I can't flash my 770 anymore | 05:39 |
| yzf600 | I keep getting USB device found found at bus 002, device address 112 | 05:39 |
| yzf600 | Error claiming USB interface: Operation not permitted | 05:39 |
| yzf600 | oh | 05:39 |
| yzf600 | dumbass - I forgot the sudo part | 05:40 |
| yzf600 | sheesh | 05:40 |
| yzf600 | maybe it's time to put the 770 down and take a break ;) | 05:41 |
| cnc | i just got mine a few hours ago | 05:41 |
| cnc | im only on my first excedrin | 05:41 |
| yzf600 | cnc: from woot? | 05:42 |
| cnc | missed the woot | 05:42 |
| cnc | got from buy.com | 05:42 |
| yzf600 | oh | 05:42 |
| yzf600 | $139 - not bad | 05:43 |
| cnc | ya, i used up my 10$ google discounts | 05:43 |
| cnc | else it would be cheaper | 05:43 |
| yzf600 | this thing is a real deal at $139, if you ask me | 05:44 |
| cnc | ya | 05:44 |
| cnc | pain in the ass if you dont know anything about linux | 05:45 |
| cnc | but slowly, i will figure out what a repository is | 05:45 |
| yzf600 | I can see that | 05:45 |
| yzf600 | I've been a linux user for 8 years now | 05:45 |
| yzf600 | red-hat, mandrake, and now ubuntu | 05:46 |
| yzf600 | it's this last one that really helped me on the 770 | 05:46 |
| goat | b/c maemo is debian based like ubuntu | 05:46 |
| yzf600 | a repository is basically an ftp site where code can be automatically downloaded by your 770 | 05:47 |
| goat | funny yzf600, that's about the exact history I have with linux | 05:47 |
| yzf600 | it is in special format with special files that tell debian what is there and how to download it | 05:47 |
| goat | redhat, mandrake, ubuntu | 05:47 |
| goat | cept I had debian in there before ubuntu | 05:47 |
| yzf600 | I started with red-hat, but everything was command line. My wife's brother said I should look at mandrake for easier config with GUI apps | 05:48 |
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| yzf600 | then I learned about ubuntu about a year ago and dumped mandrake. Mandrake really never was able to upgrade without hosing my system | 05:49 |
| goat | I hadn't used mandrake in years, had gone over to debian | 05:49 |
| yzf600 | I'm now 2 upgrades into ubuntu without any major issues | 05:49 |
| goat | apt is god | 05:49 |
| yzf600 | yes | 05:49 |
| yzf600 | rpms suck | 05:49 |
| goat | now if I could just get openvpn going I'd be happy | 05:50 |
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| yzf600 | I just want freeNX running | 05:50 |
| cnc | deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/ mistral main | 05:50 |
| goat | that is a complete repository | 05:51 |
| cnc | main means i replace user with main in the components section? | 05:51 |
| outtolunc | i just want minimo on mistral to invoke the keyboard when presented with an auth box <G> | 05:51 |
| goat | an entry for one that is | 05:51 |
| cnc | of the new catalogue creation window | 05:51 |
| goat | yes cnc | 05:51 |
| goat | without looking | 05:51 |
| goat | I'm 99% sure | 05:51 |
| yzf600 | I'm thinking my 770 will be a great little gadget to integrate to my home security system | 05:52 |
| goat | not sure what freenx is | 05:52 |
| yzf600 | freenx is a free version of NXserver, which is a vncserver replacement | 05:53 |
| goat | oh | 05:53 |
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| goat | I suppose the easy to find vnc stuff is actual vnc? | 05:53 |
| yzf600 | yea | 05:54 |
| yzf600 | vnc is nice, but NX is faster | 05:54 |
| yzf600 | and firefox and evolution won't run on an 800x480 vnc session on my 770 | 05:54 |
| cnc | argh | 05:55 |
| cnc | my wifi is blind again | 05:55 |
| goat | ? | 05:55 |
| cnc | 3rd time today | 05:55 |
| cnc | wifi wont find any aps | 05:55 |
| cnc | until you restart i | 05:55 |
| cnc | it* | 05:55 |
| cnc | is there a fix for this? | 05:56 |
| goat | no idea, never had that issue... mine seems to have better wifi than most laptops | 05:57 |
| cnc | ya, wifi works great | 05:57 |
| cnc | but once in a while it just shuts off and wont find any ap`s | 05:57 |
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| cnc | searches but no connecitons found | 05:57 |
| goat | weird | 05:57 |
| cnc | ill reboot it and it will find 10 and work fine again | 05:57 |
| goat | that sucks | 05:57 |
| cnc | i just got this thing a few hours ago | 05:58 |
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| yzf600 | yea - pidgin installed ! | 05:59 |
| goat | pidgin works well for me | 06:00 |
| cnc | does nokia have a support number for these? | 06:00 |
| goat | probablyh | 06:00 |
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| [yzf600] | Hello from my 770! | 06:04 |
| cnc | =D | 06:04 |
| yzf600 | I'm such a geek | 06:04 |
| cnc | still cant install prog, how do i check if i put in the repo correctly? | 06:05 |
| yzf600 | the refresh won't work if you entered the repo wrong | 06:05 |
| goat | edit the repo and check for typos, that's about it | 06:05 |
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| yzf600 | refresh/update | 06:06 |
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| [yzf600] | Ok, time to signoff | 06:06 |
| ericz | is it possible to use a proxy in opera? | 06:07 |
| [yzf600] | bedtime for this nerd | 06:07 |
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| cnc | 'unable to refresh list' ? | 06:07 |
| goat | errors in a repo somewhere | 06:07 |
| goat | try replacing that "main" you were asking about with just "/" | 06:08 |
| goat | or nothing at all | 06:08 |
| cnc | still wont refresh | 06:09 |
| cnc | should i try user? | 06:09 |
| goat | can't hurt | 06:09 |
| goat | check the age of the info you're setting up a repo from | 06:10 |
| goat | repo might have moved or somesuch | 06:10 |
| Niacin | whats the bora repo for wget? | 06:10 |
| goat | no idea | 06:11 |
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| cnc | no date on it, but the link seems to work | 06:11 |
| cnc | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=132 | 06:11 |
| goat | actually, we may have completely missed something | 06:12 |
| goat | the new repo window | 06:12 |
| goat | won't require the "deb" before the address | 06:12 |
| goat | sorry bout that | 06:13 |
| cnc | removed the two repos i typed in | 06:14 |
| cnc | will see if it works without them | 06:15 |
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| cnc | ah, got it working | 06:19 |
| cnc | it was the other random repo i put in | 06:19 |
| cnc | must have been a dupe | 06:19 |
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| ericz | is it really necessary for me to need to sudo to run ping or traceroute :P | 06:24 |
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| Niacin | not having much luck getting wvdial to install | 06:27 |
| Niacin | no one has a build env setup that they could just cross compile it for me? | 06:27 |
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| CtrlR | Does anyone know if it is possible to use Treo 700WX cell connection via BT? | 06:32 |
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| CtrlR | On 770 | 06:32 |
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| cnc | there a good wifi app out? | 06:49 |
| cnc | something that shows signal strength in dbm and refreshes quick | 06:49 |
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| Drizzt321 | I'm trying to get the | (pipe) character on the onscreen keyboard on the 770 (latest OS 2006) | 06:57 |
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| Drizzt321 | I can't seem to find it | 06:57 |
| Drizzt321 | can anyone help? | 06:57 |
| ericz | yeah | 06:57 |
| ericz | you can get to symbols, right? | 06:57 |
| Drizzt321 | oh, there it is | 06:58 |
| Drizzt321 | sorry | 06:58 |
| Drizzt321 | yea | 06:58 |
| ericz | there's tabs, Common, Symbols, Accents.. etc | 06:58 |
| Drizzt321 | I wasn't looking close enough | 06:58 |
| Drizzt321 | heh | 06:58 |
| ericz | yeah, common tab :) middle/bottom | 06:58 |
| ericz | err, symbols tab | 06:58 |
| Drizzt321 | yea | 06:58 |
| ericz | it is in an awkward place :/ | 06:58 |
| Drizzt321 | ohhh, they put Documents as a dot folder | 06:59 |
| Drizzt321 | heh | 06:59 |
| Drizzt321 | how annoying | 06:59 |
| ericz | . documents/images/sounds/videos? | 07:00 |
| ericz | they're all hidden :/ | 07:00 |
| Drizzt321 | yea | 07:00 |
| Drizzt321 | hrm...I'm trying to install the gpe widgets lib via dpkg, and turns out they're compiled arm, not armel which is what dpkg wants | 07:01 |
| Drizzt321 | know of another source other than kernelconcepts.de or compiling them myself? | 07:01 |
| ericz | no clue, i'm too new to this :( | 07:01 |
| Drizzt321 | ah | 07:02 |
| Drizzt321 | heh | 07:02 |
| Drizzt321 | know if its safe to force install arm packages? | 07:02 |
| ericz | i, personally, wouldn't try it, but that's me and my newness talking | 07:02 |
| Drizzt321 | erm | 07:02 |
| Drizzt321 | yea | 07:03 |
| Drizzt321 | well, I'll force it, and worst case just purge the package | 07:03 |
| ericz | try searching for "gpe" at at http://maemo.org/downloads/ ? | 07:03 |
| Drizzt321 | no libs there anyway | 07:06 |
| Drizzt321 | grrrr | 07:06 |
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| Drizzt321 | and whats really annoying is that there _is_ a gpe program _in_ the maemo repository that depends on libgpewidget1, BUT it doesn't exist in the maemo repository!!!!! | 07:09 |
| ericz | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howtosyncgpe770withlinux/ | 07:10 |
| ericz | something about libgpewidget there | 07:11 |
| Drizzt321 | its making sym links, but the problem is that it assumes the gpe libs are _already_ installed | 07:13 |
| ericz | http://oss.kernelconcepts.de/maemo/libraries.shtml - that must be the one you got? | 07:14 |
| ericz | the ARM, not armel one? | 07:14 |
| Drizzt321 | yea, they don't have any armel packages :( | 07:15 |
| Drizzt321 | *sigh* | 07:15 |
| Drizzt321 | I'll just try working with it tomorrow or something | 07:16 |
| Drizzt321 | I need to get some sleep | 07:16 |
| Drizzt321 | thanks for your help | 07:16 |
| Drizzt321 | night | 07:16 |
| ericz | later. | 07:16 |
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| bberdahl | apologies if this is OT... has anyone tried Gizmo on the n770 w/ success.... I can't make it use the secondary (generic SIP) configuration... | 07:17 |
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| coderanger | Is there a way to raise the connection timeout in vncviewer? I am doing VNC-over-SSH, and the connection works via netcat, but I think vncviewer times out too quickly. | 08:28 |
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| KaylaKaze | yay! comic book viewer coming along nicely. | 08:47 |
| KaylaKaze | I just need to find a way to zoom in and a way to handle double size pages | 08:47 |
| AD-N770 | good morning | 09:01 |
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| ericz | what's difference between "Internet connection failed" and "network connection error" | 09:20 |
| ericz | cannot connect at all :( | 09:22 |
| ericz | worked fine 20 minutes ago | 09:23 |
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| ericz | ugh, now its working, 3 reboots later | 09:27 |
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| kulve | what's the wlan signal strenght? | 09:32 |
| coderanger | Is there a default password for user, or should I set one? | 09:35 |
| KaylaKaze | I don't think there is one | 09:36 |
| kulve | coderanger: there's not passwd for user as it is not normally needed.. | 09:40 |
| kulve | -t | 09:40 |
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| keesj | Hi | 09:58 |
| KaylaKaze | only a little more work and I'll be able to easily read comic books and some pdfs on my 770 :-) | 10:03 |
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| keesj | KaylaKaze: are you scanning? | 10:08 |
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| Synt1 | hi there | 10:14 |
| Synt1 | does anyone know an alternative for amixer on the n800 (i can't find amixer) | 10:16 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:47 |
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| florian | good morning | 10:58 |
| gwak | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/07/prism_1.jpg | 10:59 |
| gwak | wtf was Nokia thinking | 10:59 |
| osfameron | out of the box? | 11:00 |
| JussiP | That there are lots of rich idiots in the world? | 11:00 |
| dpb_ | lol | 11:01 |
| fatal- | hmm. apparently skype is still unreleased? | 11:01 |
| febb | hi all | 11:06 |
| febb | seems the talk is about skype....right? | 11:06 |
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| febb | anyone knows something about the new firmware release for the N800 ? | 11:13 |
| gwak | febb:i think the best advice is "a watched pot does not boil" ;-] | 11:14 |
| febb | gwak guess you are right ;-) but didn't hurt to ask anyway..... | 11:15 |
| florian | Thats the effect tat as soon as someone talks about it, it takes one more month ;) | 11:15 |
| gwak | and a baby kitten dies | 11:15 |
| febb | damn...then there goes another month more. | 11:15 |
| febb | and one less kitty cat.... | 11:15 |
| jani | morning. | 11:16 |
| febb | and....what if I add another month: skype for n800? any news? or....super secret copy of the code ? | 11:16 |
| gwak | febb:i thought the jkontherun blog said some time in july | 11:17 |
| febb | oh well...then 27 days more to go.... | 11:18 |
| gwak | im looking forward to skype, Gizmo is way to laggy for pc->phone calls | 11:19 |
| febb | one last comment question: does any of you has managed to make the virtual keyboard to work with applications opened on the n800 from a remote X application (with ssh+X forwarding) ? | 11:20 |
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| febb | well...Gizmo works quite well for me.. I want it cuz many of my contacts are on skype....and not many of them willing to move to gizmo just for me. | 11:20 |
| febb | it becomes a pain to open so many VoIP programs and many IM accounts...... | 11:20 |
| febb | Hi felipec ..... welcome. | 11:21 |
| jani | febb: whats the problem with vkb? cant invoke it or its just not working at all ? | 11:21 |
| febb | and guess what: Mr Murphy says: whenever skype comes out..then 2 days later a new firmware and skype wont run on it..... thats for sure. ;) | 11:22 |
| felipec | febb: hi... fellow Mexican? | 11:22 |
| febb | jani: I can open a ssh session to a remote unix server, all variables are st OK and the X application do open perfectly on the N800 screen but | 11:23 |
| febb | all keyboard taps on the N800 screen never reach the X application. | 11:23 |
| febb | felipec yup...Mexican here, so are you ? | 11:23 |
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| jani | mm dunno about that then. | 11:23 |
| gwak | febb:for a remoted xterm as well? | 11:24 |
| febb | I have read somewhere that using a bluetooth keyboard works fine in that setting but i dont have one...(and done want one). | 11:24 |
| febb | gwak, yes,the same thing happens for a remoted xterm.... | 11:24 |
| felipec | febb: yes | 11:25 |
| febb | no keystrokes -taps- are sent to the X app. | 11:25 |
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| gwak | febb: i think i read that the input methods do not generate normal xevents | 11:25 |
| febb | gwak yes, I read kind of the same thing also... the question is: what is different from a normal X server / client .... | 11:26 |
| febb | I need my N800 to be able to send those keyboard events to the remote X app. (once the app opened on the n800 screen, of course, which I already do). | 11:28 |
| gwak | febb:i have not hacked at the low level bits yet ;-] , did you check the maemo.org docs about the input methods? | 11:28 |
| febb | gwak not really... haven't had the chance/time to do so... But I am pretty sure it can be "fixed" or set to operate as a normal X server / client session.... | 11:30 |
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| lardman | morning | 11:32 |
| febb | morning lardman | 11:32 |
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| gwak | febb: it apears that you would need a 'conversion' layer to convert meamo keyboard events to xevents | 11:34 |
| gwak | https://garage.maemo.org/snippet/detail.php?type=snippet&id=5 | 11:34 |
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| febb | let me check on that..... | 11:35 |
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| febb | seems that is exactly what I am looking for.....Thanks so much gwak... | 11:37 |
| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 11:37 |
| gwak | febb:np, i learned something as well ;-] | 11:37 |
| febb | great... I will read that doc and see what can be done........ For now, i guess its time to logoff its 03:40 am here ! | 11:38 |
| febb | well, gwak, thaks again I'll be back in some hours....I'll keep you posted as well.... | 11:40 |
| febb | later all ! | 11:40 |
| gwak | febb:later | 11:40 |
| febb | g'nite.... or g'day to all ! :) | 11:41 |
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| dubdibdub | hi | 11:57 |
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| dubdibdub | where do i have to put / link a script when it should be executed each time i put a mmc into my n800 ???? | 11:59 |
| edistar | good morning.. | 12:00 |
| dubdibdub | morning | 12:00 |
| dubdibdub | it's 11:00AM here ; | 12:00 |
| edistar | dubdibdub: where are you? ;) | 12:00 |
| dubdibdub | europe/austria | 12:00 |
| edistar | dubdibdub: it's 11 here too, but I feel like morning :P | 12:01 |
| dubdibdub | aahhh.... | 12:01 |
| dubdibdub | that's something completely different ;) | 12:01 |
| edistar | I'm in germany.. | 12:01 |
| Toni | 17:00 here | 12:01 |
| edistar | :P | 12:01 |
| Toni | in Taipei currently :) | 12:02 |
| melmoth | dubdibdub, i m not sure but it sound like the trick would be to have a daemon waiting for a dbus event occuring when the card is inserted | 12:02 |
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| Toni | and yes, it feels like lunch time to me again | 12:02 |
| dubdibdub | edistar: nördlich oder südlich dem weisswurstäquator?? | 12:02 |
| osfameron | heh :-) | 12:02 |
| dubdibdub | melmoth: :( | 12:02 |
| edistar | dubdibdub: eher nördlich :) niederrhein... fast bei Holland | 12:03 |
| dubdibdub | edistar: lol | 12:03 |
| melmoth | dubdibdub, it s not that a bad news. | 12:03 |
| dubdibdub | melmoth: isn't there something like /system/osso/af/on-camera-out | 12:03 |
| melmoth | not that i m aware of | 12:03 |
| dubdibdub | i just want to start a script - not write my own daemon waiting for messages from hell ;) | 12:03 |
| edistar | dubdibdub: hehe, that would make life too simple :P | 12:03 |
| dubdibdub | so where can i find a small(!) dbus tutorial?? ---askin' google... | 12:04 |
| dubdibdub | have anyone of you ever made a 'n800-lite' (x-server only without matchbox, etc...) | 12:05 |
| melmoth | dubdibdub, actually in maemo, you may want to use libosso instead of dbus | 12:05 |
| melmoth | as far as i have understood, libosso is a sort of layer on top of dbus | 12:06 |
| dubdibdub | i wan't to get the n800 as light as possible (best without *osso*) | 12:06 |
| dubdibdub | ;) | 12:06 |
| melmoth | libosso is mandatory | 12:06 |
| melmoth | the whole gui works with it | 12:06 |
| Toni | run fdisk on it :) | 12:06 |
| dubdibdub | Toni: good idea ;) | 12:07 |
| Toni | it makes it quite light, but usability suffers a little | 12:07 |
| edistar | a little lol | 12:07 |
| melmoth | http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/documentation/python_osso_examples/ | 12:07 |
| Toni | do you want to strip the UI or also the OS? | 12:08 |
| dubdibdub | but i need X (my (sdl)app should run alone, doesn't need fancy ui), ALSA (my app plays some sound via aplay) | 12:09 |
| dubdibdub | but when i killall matchbox-window-manager it comes back again (?restarts automatically) | 12:11 |
| melmoth | all i say is the more likely way to be alerted of a change in the device available is via libosso (or dbus if there is no such libosso signal) | 12:11 |
| dubdibdub | what would happen if i apt-get remove matchbox-window-manager?? | 12:13 |
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| edistar | dubdibdub: just try.. I suppose it would say that you can't do that because of dependencies.. | 12:15 |
| melmoth | GRumble; i m not even sure there is such an event as "mmc card inserted" in osso http://maemo.org/api_refs/3.0/libosso/structosso__hw__state__t.html#o4 | 12:15 |
| dubdibdub | i'll give the matchbox-buttkick a try... | 12:16 |
| dubdibdub | http://pastebin.ca/602765 | 12:17 |
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| dubdibdub | oops | 12:21 |
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| dubdibdub | after removing: rebooting: progressbar get's stuck at about two thirds | 12:22 |
| dubdibdub | log on http://pastebin.ca/602771 | 12:22 |
| dubdibdub | strange...: it differs where exactly the progressbar gets stuck | 12:28 |
| dubdibdub | sorry | 12:30 |
| dubdibdub | i have to excure | 12:30 |
| dubdibdub | i have to excuse | 12:30 |
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| dubdibdub | i am still able to ssh onto the device | 12:30 |
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| dubdibdub | is is easy to get out where mmc cards are..: | 12:31 |
| dubdibdub | # mount|grep mmc|cut -d' ' -f3 | 12:31 |
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| guardian | i have a question about GObject properties | 12:46 |
| guardian | am i responsible for the storage | 12:46 |
| guardian | or GObject does it for me ? | 12:46 |
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| eugene | hello all! | 12:49 |
| inz | guardian, you must implement the set_propery and get_property and store the values | 12:49 |
| guardian | ok i understand | 12:50 |
| melmoth | hola eugene | 12:51 |
| eugene | melmoth: you are up early | 12:52 |
| melmoth | it s nearly noon here :) | 12:52 |
| eugene | melmoth: :) | 12:53 |
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| jani | melmoth: i think gnome-vfs has event for that.. | 12:54 |
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| guardian | i fail to see an advantage using properties | 13:03 |
| guardian | compared to my own get/set functions | 13:03 |
| inz | guardian, language bindings | 13:04 |
| guardian | like with python ? | 13:04 |
| inz | yeah | 13:04 |
| inz | when using properties, I think some generators can do the work for you | 13:05 |
| inz | And also you can set many things with one call etc | 13:05 |
| inz | For example g_object_new(MY_TYPE_FOO, "foo", 1, "bar", 2, NULL); | 13:06 |
| guardian | if i want both | 13:09 |
| inz | And of course you can abuse the property system to write saveable objects | 13:09 |
| guardian | do i need somehow to notify the property has changed | 13:09 |
| guardian | in my set function | 13:09 |
| inz | guardian, yeah, you should call g_object_notify(your_gobject, "property_name"); | 13:10 |
| inz | And obviously you can make the set_property and get_property call the setter/getter respectively | 13:11 |
| inz | And it is often smart, as you might want to do something special when the property is changes | 13:11 |
| inz | -s+d | 13:11 |
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| robtaylor | aCiDBaSe: are you still working on pymaemo? | 14:46 |
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| guardian | geez, reading the doc helps :) | 14:49 |
| guardian | Calling gdk_draw_rectangle (window, gc, FALSE, 0, 0, 20, 20) results in an outlined rectangle with corners at (0, 0), (0, 20), (20, 20), and (20, 0), which makes it 21 pixels wide and 21 pixels high. | 14:49 |
| guardian | 21 pixels *sight* | 14:49 |
| Enok | I get "error: memory exhausted -- trying to return to prompt" in octave when trying to read data file to a matrix on N800 | 14:55 |
| Enok | The file isn't big, just couple of lines | 14:55 |
| Enok | On pc it works fine | 14:55 |
| Enok | Any good guesses how to solve this? | 14:56 |
| Enok | I use the fscanf function to read the file | 14:57 |
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| inz | guardian, I bet there was some important reason for doing that... | 15:33 |
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| guardian | %s/important/legacy/ :) | 15:34 |
| inz | guardian, imo it makes no sense, either it should take the size of the contained rect or the bounding rect, not some weird combination | 15:34 |
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| inz | guardian, or the width and height should be x2 and y2 and it should act the same independent of the filled argument | 15:36 |
| inz | Hysterical raisins bite. You die. | 15:36 |
| guardian | :) | 15:36 |
| inz | Die [yn] | 15:37 |
| gwak | y | 15:38 |
| suihkulokki | You die -more- | 15:39 |
| inz | 15:39 | |
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| eugene | Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 1192: dl_main: Assertion `(void *) ph->p_vaddr == _rtld_local._dl_sysinfo_dso' failed! | 15:50 |
| eugene | sigh. | 15:50 |
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| eichi | hello, is maemo with multi-user support? or is it possible? | 16:52 |
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| eugene | melmoth: ping | 17:07 |
| melmoth | pong | 17:07 |
| eugene | melmoth: see: | 17:07 |
| eugene | [ 1284.911987] do_execve for /bin/ash from sh | 17:07 |
| eugene | [ 1286.591308] do_execve for /sbin/getty from init | 17:07 |
| eugene | [ 1286.863861] do_execve for /bin/dmesg from ash | 17:07 |
| eugene | hehe :) | 17:07 |
| melmoth | hmm | 17:08 |
| melmoth | is this your systemtapthingy working ? | 17:08 |
| eugene | not yet. | 17:08 |
| melmoth | hey...don't forget to put all of this on garage ! | 17:08 |
| edistar | what is the difference between flasher 2.0 and flasher 3.0? | 17:09 |
| eugene | basically i'm utilising jprobe_return to get hold of the .return of do_execve | 17:09 |
| eugene | melmoth: nod nod :) | 17:09 |
| eugene | somehow init loves to spawn getty often. | 17:09 |
| eugene | i wonder why. | 17:10 |
| edistar | and what is the OS 2007 hacker edition for 770? | 17:11 |
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| melmoth | edistar, it is an effort to backport feature that are officially supported in the n800 os to the n700 tablet | 17:12 |
| melmoth | or so i understand | 17:12 |
| edistar | melmoth: is it unstable? | 17:13 |
| edistar | :P | 17:13 |
| melmoth | i do not know, i only have a n800 :) | 17:14 |
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| edistar | which flasher should I use now, 2.0 or 3.0? for the 770? | 17:14 |
| melmoth | but i have been told it s rather stable..But you may not find all the video codec in it. | 17:14 |
| edistar | okey.. | 17:14 |
| Niacin | anyone know why cu buffers only 1 char at a time? | 17:16 |
| edistar | can anyone tell me how to flash my 770 so that it can use nfs shares? | 17:21 |
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| eugene | edistar: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_kernel_guide_bora.html | 17:21 |
| eugene | "Compiling kernel modules" section | 17:21 |
| edistar | eugene: there is already a kernel but I don't know how to use it.. or how to select that kernel for flashin | 17:22 |
| edistar | g | 17:22 |
| edistar | eugene: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/os2006-ipv6-nfs | 17:22 |
| eugene | edistar: that i'm not so sure. | 17:22 |
| edistar | okey... cause I don't know how to compile a module that fits my current kernel | 17:23 |
| edistar | I would have to replace the kernel too anyway.. | 17:23 |
| edistar | can't I just get the module somewhere? | 17:26 |
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| Niacin | whats the package url for 2006? for xterm etc? | 18:18 |
| Niacin | ?? | 18:20 |
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| Niacin | no one?????;\ | 18:28 |
| Niacin | http://repository.maemo.org doesnt have ssh | 18:28 |
| Niacin | http://maemo-hackers.org/apt seems to be down | 18:28 |
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| Niacin | ?? | 18:31 |
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| Niacin | is there a mirror for maemo-hackers.org? | 18:35 |
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| caaarlo | hi everybody | 18:36 |
| caaarlo | can anybody recommend a plugin for a ThinkOutside BT keyboard for a 770? I downloaded one, but all it seems to do is crash the tablet | 18:37 |
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| Niacin | the one time i need it | 18:43 |
| Niacin | http://maemo-hackers.org/apt is toast | 18:43 |
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| guardian | i need to define variables for data subdirectories /usr/share/mypackage/subdir1 /usr/share/mypackage/subdir2 etc | 18:49 |
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| guardian | would you define subdir1 subdir2 variables in configure.ac | 18:49 |
| guardian | like subdir1=$datadir/somewhere | 18:50 |
| guardian | then use AC_SUBST(subdir1) | 18:50 |
| guardian | or would you define subdir1 directly in Makefile.am ? | 18:50 |
| guardian | doing sub1dir=$(datadir)/somewhere | 18:50 |
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| dev | and you are doing now a new/proper python2.5 build? just that I know on what I should do next | 18:51 |
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| guardian | hmm | 19:51 |
| guardian | is there a way i can hack | 19:51 |
| guardian | so that | 19:51 |
| guardian | make install installs stuff to the device through ssh ? :/ | 19:51 |
| guardian | "ssh" in the sentence makes it sound impossible | 19:51 |
| gwak | guardian:you could script scp i imagine | 19:54 |
| guardian | well yeah but wasting time scripting ... i better use this time building a proper installation package | 19:54 |
| gwak | ;-] | 19:54 |
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| inz | guardian, sshfs (FUSE) should allow such | 20:13 |
| guardian | is this easy to use ? | 20:15 |
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| inz | guardian, never used, but the product page ( http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html ) says sshfs [user@]hostname:[dir] mountpoint | 20:16 |
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| guardian | hmm | 20:17 |
| guardian | requires to be part of the group fuse | 20:18 |
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| guardian | is there a way to reload groups without signing off ? | 20:18 |
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| inz | guardian, su <user> | 20:19 |
| inz | guardian, obviously that only adds you to the group for that shell | 20:20 |
| guardian | ok | 20:22 |
| guardian | gonna definitely try it, thx for the tip | 20:22 |
| guardian | btw i have another question | 20:22 |
| guardian | you mentioned python bindings | 20:22 |
| guardian | my widget currently has a set_foo function that takes a Foo structure as a parameter | 20:23 |
| guardian | what do i need to do when i want to use my widget from python (if it happens some day) | 20:23 |
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| KaylaKaze | problem with comic books is you have to wait for the next issdue to continue the story. grrr | 20:44 |
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| Tu13es | anyone use xchat aqua on an n800? | 21:10 |
| Tu13es | trying to figure out how to get rid of the user list | 21:10 |
| Tu13es | er | 21:12 |
| Tu13es | not xchat aqua | 21:12 |
| Tu13es | maemo xchat | 21:12 |
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| unique311 | ubuntu feisty | 21:40 |
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| phr | hi, i just got a 770 from woot, does anyone know if i can put a 2gb rs-mmc card in it and have it work? | 21:42 |
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| Tu13es | yes | 21:43 |
| phr | great, thanks | 21:44 |
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| febb | hi all | 22:19 |
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| cesman | hello febb | 22:29 |
| felipec | wb febb | 22:29 |
| febb | hi ceswan ! | 22:30 |
| febb | Hola felipec ! | 22:30 |
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| cesman | febb: tab completion is your friend ;) | 22:31 |
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| febb | cesman: beg you pardon ? ;) | 22:33 |
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| guardian | hmm | 22:53 |
| guardian | needed to reinstall scratchbox and sdk on another box | 22:53 |
| guardian | is this normal that i have to launch sudo ./maemo-scratchbox-install_3.1.sh -d ? | 22:54 |
| guardian | the INSTALL.txt files does not tell about "-d" | 22:54 |
| guardian | if i don't put the option, i just have the help text | 22:54 |
| guardian | on a fresh feisty | 22:54 |
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| c0ffee | did somebody see die hard 4? | 23:33 |
| c0ffee | the bad ones use some n770 :) | 23:33 |
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| keesj | nice | 23:35 |
| keesj | what do they use if for? | 23:36 |
| c0ffee | dunno | 23:36 |
| keesj | I hope not calling :p | 23:36 |
| c0ffee | the bad one has a whole bunch of equipment | 23:36 |
| c0ffee | nah | 23:36 |
| c0ffee | i recognized it, when i hacked into some jet fighter | 23:36 |
| c0ffee | the movie isn't overly realistic, but hey :) | 23:37 |
| keesj | I a was at the dump store on monday , I now have a very cool case like in the films | 23:37 |
| c0ffee | oh ehrm | 23:39 |
| c0ffee | not when "i" hacked into some jet fighter, but the bad guy :) | 23:39 |
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