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Verthi all00:50
Vertjust wondering if anyone is able to help with a reboot loop problem00:50
Vertand if there is anyway to stop it? (i have xterm installed)..00:50
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b0unc3hmm.. I have uploaded a deb to the maemo extras repository 1 day ago... still not appear in the application manager... someone know why ?01:10
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Sulisb0unc3: i expect it has to be reviewed01:21
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b0unc3Sulis: yes , but I remembered them faster :)01:26
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Sulisyou remembered them?01:28
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Veggentenkte å sette mtu på 8k for å øke ytelsen mot NAS-burk.01:58
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pr0nGuyDoes anyone know what retail store sells the Nokia N800 if any?07:14
unique311jnr07:16
unique311in nyc07:16
unique311the nokia store also in nyc07:16
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trevarthancompiling irssi for os2007 here. is it possible to have xterm run something automatically? like, osso-xterm -c 'irssi' or something?07:24
trevarthanpr0nGuy: I think they said CompUSA does/did. I bought mine from tigerdirect.07:25
trevarthanI think you can get them from amazon and walmart too.07:26
trevarthannot in store though. just online.07:26
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pr0nGuytrevarthan: you're right, but they just closed all of them around me.07:35
pr0nGuyClosest place is 101 miles07:35
`0660trevarthan, it is07:36
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`0660Exec=/usr/bin/osso-xterm /usr/bin/irssi <- a line like that in the .desktop file07:38
trevarthan`0660: thanks. would it be a good idea to incorporate a dependency on osso-xterm and add a .desktop file with such a line in it to the package?07:51
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trevarthandude... what's with the umask for a name?07:53
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tigerthow do you know its "dude"? ;)07:57
tigertmornng07:57
trevarthanI just know. morning.08:01
trevarthanAlright, I've got a irssi deb for os2007. No perl, of course. But it compiled. I'll submit it in a few days once I know it works ok. Relatively painless process so far. Think I'll make some more debs.08:02
* trevarthan needs to get some sleep08:03
trevarthanlaters08:03
`0660trevarthan08:05
`0660did you include the network initialization script?08:05
`0660isn't it possible to just add an dependency on any terminal?08:06
dragornpr0nGuy: Frys does08:06
javamaniachey guys, what's the name of the default browser on the os2007?08:11
javamaniacif it's not opera, where can i find opera?08:11
trevarthanjavamaniac: it's opera08:12
trevarthan`0660: no, no network init script. I'll see if it works as-is tomorrow. too tired now.08:12
javamaniacoh, ok, and there's some other browser around?08:12
javamaniacjust to compare :)08:13
trevarthanjavamaniac: mozilla, I think. check maemo.org.08:13
trevarthanI'm pretty happy with opera on my n800, personally.08:13
trevarthanalright. I'm out.08:13
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`0660ok08:16
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pr0nGuydragorn: What?'08:56
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AD-N770good morning11:13
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JaffaMorning, all11:30
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guardiandoes anyone know if it's possible to have your .o in a separate directory when using autotools, instead of having them in the src directory next to the .c files ?15:35
Efrael_I think it is but it's tricky. Pretty much no one does it that way.15:37
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florianit should be quite easy15:37
florianjust create a directory and run configure from there15:38
Mithrandirmkdir somewhere ; cd somewhere ; ../configure ; make15:38
guardianhmm15:38
Mithrandirthat's the usual way to do it15:38
guardiangonna test that15:38
florianexactly15:38
EfraelAh, I thought you ment automating it15:46
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b0unc3hello17:01
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|tbb|hi all, is there a subversion client available right now17:11
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trevarthan|tbb|: haven't seen one.17:21
trevarthanyou gonna write code on your tablet, eh?17:22
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|tbb|nope17:49
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user__Ggrmble; There is no escape key on y bbbrand new bt keyboard18:51
user__how am i supose to use vi ?18:52
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mgedminctrl-]18:55
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trevarthanuser__: which one did you get? (cause I don't want that one)19:08
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mk8Hi to all ...19:16
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trevarthananyone have an autossh binary for os2007? http://www.harding.motd.ca/autossh/20:10
trevarthanlooks like it would be handy20:10
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trevarthancrap. I was setting up SSH pub key auth on my n800. I logged in as root and dumped my id_rsa and id_rsa.pub files in /home/user/.ssh/, then logged out and tried to log back in so I could change the ownership of those files. Now I can't log in as root! It says "stdin is not a tty". What can I do?20:39
dragorntry ssh -t20:40
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trevarthanno good.20:41
dragorntime to install gainroot and do it from console then20:41
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trevarthanok. Luckily I had a root SSH console sitting around. What causes that message so I can fix it? Chown'ing those files didn't help.20:42
dragornthe error itself is, well, not getting a tty.  With openssh you can force a pty allocation with -t, I'm not surprised dropbear sshd doesn't support it.  I don't know why you'd be getting it, however.20:42
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dragornyou could maybe get strace installed and trace the dropbear server and see what it's trying to do20:43
trevarthanI think I'm running the openssh server... how do I get a list of the packages install from the cli?20:43
dragornprobably dpkg20:44
trevarthanyeah, dropbear server, openssh client.20:46
trevarthanwhy the f would I not have a tty all the sudden?20:46
trevarthancan you only log in as root once?20:47
dragorndunno, i've never had it happen with dropbear.  Usually means you're doing something funny, like trying to run a screen-based program directly20:47
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trevarthangeez. I'm not. That I know of. I'm terrified to log out of my root console session now too.20:49
mgedmincan you ssh in as user?20:54
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trevarthan/proc/sys/kernel/pty/max = 420:54
trevarthanI almost shat myself.20:55
trevarthanI just had too many consoles open.20:55
trevarthannow. i wonder if it's possible to overwrite the screen lock dialog with something that has thumb friendly buttons?20:59
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guardianevening21:01
tkotrevarthan: hildon-libs/hildon-widgets/hildon-code-dialog.c21:04
trevarthandoesn't look like it's a process. probably built into hildon itself or something.21:04
trevarthanah21:04
trevarthancool21:04
trevarthantko: so, I've got the dev kit. I'm assuming it comes with hildon binaries. How would I go about recompiling hildon?21:08
tkotrevarthan: apt-get source hildon-libs ; apt-get build-dep hildon-libs ; cd hildon-libs* ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b21:08
trevarthansweet21:09
tkoMDK: where did the lock code dialog go? I can't see it in hildon-121:10
tko(IIRC we were doing something for the buttons already)21:11
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trevarthanhow do I make the dialog appear in Xephyr?21:12
tkogtk_dialog_run (hildon_code_dialog_new ()); ?21:13
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trevarthanisn't there like a keystroke to emulate the power button or something?21:15
tkoI'm not sure the systemui process is running in xephyr21:15
tkobesides, it's much easier for you to make a tiny app which shows the dialog instead of restarting the xephyr environment all the time21:16
trevarthanok. fair enough.21:16
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Negenyo21:43
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homeasvsI was going to check lucasr's screencasts on writing some n800 apps using python21:56
homeasvsbut it would seem that his tutorials are for the next generation hildon version21:57
florianre21:57
homeasvsis that correct ?21:57
homeasvsand if so, is there some tutorial for the current version so I could write an app that would work today ?21:57
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trevarthanIf anyone wants to play with the IRSSI package I made, you can get it here: http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages22:03
trevarthanConsider it a Beta package. I've been testing it today and it seems to work nicely, but no promises.22:04
unique311i will betta22:05
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snorkelydvertigo22:14
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guardianirssi ?22:29
guardianon a nokia tablet22:29
guardianhow much time do you need to enter a sentence ?:)22:29
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trevarthani am writing this with my thumbs. it's not too bad.22:45
trevarthanhella better than im'ing or texting from a phone. my wife does that all the time too.22:47
trevarthani'll ask her what she's smoking for ya.22:47
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mk8Hi to all ...22:49
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maddlahhey all!22:58
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homeasvscan status applets be written in python ?23:09
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