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jonnylambis there any way to charge an n800, but not with the usual charger?01:06
jonnylambplugging in USB -> mains just says that a usb device has connected..01:06
jonnylambi just have broken my charger, and although i disected it and is now fixed with sellotape, a more permanent method of charging would be nice!01:08
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derfThe USB standard does not provide enough current to charge the N800, AFAIK.01:14
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jonnylambmmm, I remember reading about not being able to provide power from USB. I.e. no USB keyboard.01:18
jonnylambhmm, there can't be any other way then! i'd better order a new charger ASAP!01:19
gla55none of nokias devices charge from their usb connectors01:19
gla55(well, maybe 330 does)01:19
Pupnikshithead i am killing myself telling you this01:20
zakxnow that was pointless01:22
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qgil(off topic but I have to tell somebody: it has taken me almost one hour to realize that I had to reboot with the USB stick plugged in order to access it grrrrrr)01:42
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Pupnikwhat a stinking pile of shit you all are01:46
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sandmanAnyone around?03:27
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bhima_sort.03:37
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sandmanHave you run a debian-arm installation on the N800 yet?03:42
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sandmanIt's too bad nobody is here03:54
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unique311_sandman i tried installing debian-arm so apps...and it wouldn't work..04:44
unique311_Pupnik is having a bad day?04:47
unique311_anybody here?04:47
unique311_sandman i tried installing debian-arm so apps...and it wouldn't work..04:47
unique311_anybody here?04:47
unique311_Pupnik is having a bad day?04:47
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sandman??06:04
sandmanHow did you try to install the debian-arm apps?06:07
sandmanfrom within a chroot?06:07
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sandmanYikes06:29
sandmansplits everywhere06:29
unique311_upgrade06:32
unique311_a global message popped up06:32
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sandmanAnyone alive?06:58
bhimanope.07:20
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sandmanI'm trying to install debian within a chroot on an SD card07:42
sandmanand not just add it as an apt souce07:42
sandmansource, rather07:42
sandmanDoes anyone have experience with this?07:42
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max_unixchecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool11:11
max_unixi get this errormessage .. how can i check with package is needed ?11:11
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koenit already told you: XML::Parser perl module11:33
koenon debian that is libxml-parser-perl iirc11:33
JaffaMorning, all11:58
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max_unixi try to install this but it dont find the right path, creating a new target solves the problem12:23
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pupnikhi i want to figure out who this is: http://pupnik.de/DJ_Mentat-Festination_2005_06_28__Radio_Excerpt.mp312:30
max_unixhi pupnik12:31
pupnikhi max, how is it going?12:31
max_unixhow can i check where the apt-get downloads the files from ?12:31
max_unixgood ... the new scratchbox with RS2.2 works12:31
pupnikphew!12:32
pupnikapt-cache policy $package12:32
max_unixthank you12:33
max_unixhmm i dont find the whole url ...is there a posebility to download and not install the package ?12:38
pupnikyeah i frogot how tho12:40
max_unixhmm i just found the arp cahce dir ..12:41
pupnikif you find it max_unix post the answer please12:48
pupnikit's some flag to apt-get i think12:48
max_unix[sbox-arm2: ~/test] > apt-get -i sqlite312:50
max_unixE: Command line option 'i' [from -i] is not known.12:50
max_unixbut i found allready all the deb files i need in the chache dir, so -> problem solved12:50
pupnik       -d, --download-only12:52
pupnik          Download only; package files are only retrieved, not unpacked or12:52
pupnik          installed12:52
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keesjHi15:36
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zakxgah19:57
zakxhttp://repository.nrcc.noklab.com/ really shouln't be promoted on the maemo.org wiki19:57
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zakxthat repos almost fucked my installation because of incompatible libpango/libglib2.0-versions19:57
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kpelhello21:27
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keesjhi kpel21:32
kpelhow's everything?21:32
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keesjwhat about some sort of distributed file system with tools like gcc and such ?21:33
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keesjwhat about some sort of distributed file system with tools like gcc and such ?21:33
kpeldistributed fs for the tablet?21:34
keesjKIDS!!!21:34
keesjkpel: yes21:34
kpelkeesj: how are you going to handle mobility?21:34
kpeli mean, our tablets make one such filesystem, and then i take the train to france. then what?21:35
keesjI don't mind being connected if I want to compile21:35
keesjno, the fs would not run on the teblets, more on server around the world21:36
kpelok, so you probably don't mean a distributed filesystem among tablets connected to each other21:36
kpelkeesj: you mean like nfs?21:36
keesjyes, but better and distributed21:37
kpeldunno... do you have some demo?21:38
ptmancoda?21:38
kpeli mean, tablets usually don't have many mips to spare21:39
keesjcoda?21:39
ptmanand nfsv4.1 will have parallel nfs21:39
ptmanit's a filesystem21:39
ptmanhttp://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/21:40
ptmanand it's distributed21:40
keesjit sounds like fun21:41
ptmanand then there's intermezzo21:42
ptmanhttp://www.inter-mezzo.org/21:42
ptmanhttp://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/nfsv41/pnfsdemos/basics/ -- prallell nfs21:43
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keesjI will look into coda , it sounds like something I can understand21:49
rwhitbyjust installed scratchbox - anyone got a tip for configuring networking inside scratchbox to see the outside world?  Doesn't seem to be 'ping' or 'host' or 'nslookup' avaiable for debugging.  Do I just need to fix resolv.conf and the default gateway, or do I need to set up a http proxy?21:50
kulvehttp://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/05/13/ogg-support-02-speex/21:50
kulverwhitby: sb uses the hosts's network totally21:50
gla55nice21:50
kulverwhitby: but e.g. dns is done inside. And that's the problem usually21:51
rwhitbykulve: thx, so it's just resolve.conf then.21:51
kulvethat and /etc/nsswitch.conf21:51
kulvemainly the latter21:51
kulveand there are two of them..21:51
kulverwhitby: you have ssh there. Try ssh'ing to IP address and with a hostname.21:52
* rwhitby leads nslu2-linux, works on OE, OpenMoko, and is now setting up Maemo environment for n800 development.21:52
rwhitbykulve: thx - that's the network debugging tool I was looking for :-)21:53
zakxanyone of you willing to port a wol client by any chance?21:53
rwhitbykulve: where is the second nsswitch.conf you're referring to?21:54
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rwhitbykulve: nm - worked it out from googling your hint. thx.22:00
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pupniknice to have you on board rwhitby22:36
rwhitbypupnik: thx22:37
pupnikrwhitby: have you seen the neo1973?22:37
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rwhitbyonly had the n800 device for a couple of days, just reading through dev doco22:37
rwhitbypupnik: I'm an OpenMoko P0 and P1 developer (i.e. I got the free devices)22:37
pupniksweet.. it will be interesting to hear your opinions about maemo22:38
pupniki love that phone - 640x480 rocks22:38
rwhitbyI wrote the MokoMakefile that lots of people use to build the openmoko stuff (it's just a wrapper around OE and SVN and other stuff, making the complex build process a bit more automated)22:38
pupnikdoes the dev environment use qemu like scratchbox does?22:38
rwhitbypupnik: my ideal device will be a cross between Treo650 (my current always-on-my-body device), the Neo1973 and the N800.22:39
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rwhitbydev environment for openmoko is openembedded - you can build for the real device, or you can build for x86 and run under xoo, or you can build for the real device and run under qemu (openmoko have enhanced qemu to support the full device)22:40
pupnikwow nice22:40
pupniki'd never crosscompiled anything before getting the n770, so i'm a bit noobish22:41
pupnikbut porting emus and sdl games has been a blast22:41
shackanneat!22:46
pupnikwe could really use someone to look into drpocketsnes from the gp2x22:49
pupnikall those snes rpgs would be perfect on the devices22:49
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kulvehow do I add my app to maemo.org/downloads?23:28
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mubelackerUse the maemo garage, open an account and send an apply to the garage crew23:49
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