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| Pupnik | where to go for info / wiki / fixes for 2007 OS on Nokia 770? | 00:54 |
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| stepcut | has anyone successfully built osso-pdf-viewer from source ? | 01:10 |
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| Pupnik | stepcut: have you tried? | 01:37 |
| stepcut | Pupnik: only briefly, dpkg-buildpackage failed because it had Build-Depends on a bunch of things that I could not apt-get install | 01:40 |
| stepcut | Pupnik: but, it looked like there where other sources that *might* provide those dependencies | 01:40 |
| stepcut | s/where/were/ | 01:40 |
| Pupnik | did the source deb you downloaded match the scratchbox environment? | 01:40 |
| Pupnik | mistral / gregale / bora | 01:41 |
| stepcut | Pupnik: not really, it was from here: http://www.bleb.org/software/n800/os2007-src/ | 01:41 |
| stepcut | but I am trying to build for gregale | 01:41 |
| stepcut | but, I can't find a copy of the source for os2006, so... | 01:42 |
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| Pupnik | mhmm | 01:44 |
| Pupnik | http://hsivonen.iki.fi/maemo-src/ <- stepcut, seen that? | 01:45 |
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| Pupnik_ | it2007 dspmp3sink playback on 770 works fine here | 02:48 |
| Pupnik_ | it would be neat if i could play back two mp3 streams at once | 02:50 |
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| Pupnik | trying to pair 770 with it2007 and Thinkoutside BT Stowaway kbd: "Pairing failed. Device resources exceeded. Try again? | 03:05 |
| stepcut | Pupnik: hrm, I had to hack out the dependency on libosso-email-interface-dev, but I got the version of osso-pdf-viewer from that second link to compile | 03:09 |
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| Pupnik | ahh i need to hit "enter" after entering the pairing code on the keyboard | 03:09 |
| Pupnik | cool stepcut | 03:10 |
| Pupnik | oh man, the US layout on the BT keyboard is *so* much more unix friendly than the german | 03:14 |
| Pupnik | - and / can be entered without function combos | 03:14 |
| Pupnik | oh cool i just thought of a fast curses-based non-keyboard ui for tome | 03:32 |
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| kakos | Is the N800 a worthy upgrade over the 770? | 04:54 |
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| sciboy | G'day, how's the flash video performance with the latest update on the n800? | 06:51 |
| unique311 | very good | 06:53 |
| Pupnik | hi unique311 ! | 06:53 |
| unique311 | videos are watchable | 06:53 |
| unique311 | whats up Pupnik | 06:53 |
| unique311 | trying to instl | 06:53 |
| unique311 | all | 06:53 |
| unique311 | scratchbox | 06:53 |
| Pupnik | just reflashed my 770 with it2007... kind of weird but it's cool | 06:53 |
| Pupnik | unique311: we're like the most active people on the planet right now | 06:54 |
| Pupnik | lol at least in chatting | 06:55 |
| unique311 | yes | 06:55 |
| Tak | pupnik: it's pretty nice - breaks fceu onscreen buttons though | 06:55 |
| Pupnik | unique311: what's your host os? | 06:55 |
| unique311 | very much so.. | 06:55 |
| unique311 | ubuntu | 06:55 |
| unique311 | trying to get pass one error | 06:55 |
| unique311 | when i run login | 06:55 |
| Pupnik | Tak, i am testing it to see if my sdl/xsp probl;ems get fixed by it | 06:56 |
| Pupnik | unique311: can you rephrase that? | 06:56 |
| Tak | iirc it's older than latest bora release | 06:56 |
| Tak | so if it exists in current bora, it exists there | 06:57 |
| sciboy | What graphic editing applications have been ported over? Just out of curiosity. | 06:57 |
| Tak | few | 06:58 |
| Tak | I bet unique311 has the rundown | 06:58 |
| Pupnik | Tak i read about a maemopad+ that uses stylus pressure for painting | 06:58 |
| Tak | maemopad;, | 06:59 |
| Tak | er | 06:59 |
| Tak | maemopad+ is ok | 06:59 |
| Pupnik | responsiveness of onscreen keyboard in it2007 seems to be improved, the clicking sound is much nicer | 06:59 |
| sciboy | Also how visible is the screen in daylight? That's my last question. =P | 06:59 |
| Tak | screen is very bright | 07:00 |
| Pupnik | sciboy: all non reflective screens have problems in daylight. the nokias do very well. | 07:00 |
| unique311 | mtpaint is cool | 07:00 |
| Tak | I never have it above the second-lowest setting | 07:00 |
| unique311 | needs hildonizing.. | 07:00 |
| Pupnik | Tak, in daylight ... you gotta be kidding | 07:01 |
| Tak | pupnik: I really don't like the weird thumb pressure setting | 07:01 |
| sciboy | I will always use my desktop computer for any serious work, but it would be pretty cool if i could take visual notes via. digital painting or photos while i'm out and about. | 07:01 |
| Pupnik | unique311: you never gave me any info about your porting efforts. did you contact dmitry? | 07:01 |
| Tak | pupnik: indoors in daylight - I imagine outside I'd have to turn it up one or two more ;-) | 07:02 |
| unique311 | not yet... | 07:02 |
| Pupnik | i hope you two stick around... not many people are interested in gaming / emus and the like | 07:04 |
| Tak | actually we watch movies in the car in daylight - brightness maxed then | 07:04 |
| unique311 | ERROR: Operation not permitted | 07:05 |
| unique311 | chroot(/scratchbox/users/unique311) | 07:05 |
| unique311 | ERROR: Operation not permitted | 07:05 |
| unique311 | chroot(/scratchbox/users/unique311) | 07:05 |
| * sciboy downloads mtpaint and checks how it would be. | 07:05 | |
| unique311 | hmmm | 07:05 |
| unique311 | sciboy | 07:05 |
| Pupnik | i think it's amazing that the backlight through lcd can compete with the sun | 07:06 |
| unique311 | do you own a n800? | 07:06 |
| Tak | well, the sun's a lot further away | 07:07 |
| Pupnik | compared to older backlit lcd devices | 07:08 |
| Pupnik | do you want to buy my psion netbook? | 07:09 |
| Tak | no | 07:10 |
| sciboy | unique311, No, just considering getting one. | 07:11 |
| Pupnik | sciboy: for me, it was the coolest thing ever and i love it to pieces | 07:12 |
| Pupnik | the 770 | 07:12 |
| Tak | I would say, get one if you know exactly what you're going to do with it | 07:13 |
| Pupnik | sciboy, if you can give some background on what your computer experience is, and what you're interested in from an application standpoint, we can give you tips | 07:13 |
| Tak | the people that are unhappy with them are the people that get one expecting it to be something it's not - a newton, a palm, a complete laptop replacement... | 07:14 |
| * rev loves his newton | 07:15 | |
| sciboy | That's what i'm trying to establish, okay so background info, been running Debian for 5 years, Ubuntu for 2 weeks. I'm training myself as an animator but that aside my computer is off and on all day, mostly for web surfing, reading, listening to music, watching videos and the odd digital speed paint (which is just for fun not quality) | 07:15 |
| Pupnik | i bought one, and thinkg omg, it's more powerful than my NeXT | 07:15 |
| Tak | indeed - but ITs are not (and don't want to be) newtons. or palms. | 07:15 |
| derf | I bought one to serve as a portable Japanese dictionary. | 07:16 |
| Tak | speaking of debian: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/04/27/1211211 | 07:16 |
| Pupnik | too bad apple didn't open-source the newton OS | 07:17 |
| Tak | derf: that's awesome - does it function in that capacity? | 07:17 |
| derf | Tak: Yes. It was very helpful while I was in Japan. | 07:18 |
| Tak | cool | 07:18 |
| derf | Plus the whole Maemo Mapper thing was also astoundingly useful. | 07:18 |
| derf | But that was pure bonus. | 07:18 |
| * Tak nods | 07:18 | |
| sciboy | Pretty much i got a Palm, GP2X and my PC handling my day to day usage so a single device would be really convenient. | 07:18 |
| Tak | mapper is great - will be even more useful when we move back to a city | 07:19 |
| Pupnik | sciboy: your palm does palmy things better, and the gp2x does gamey things better | 07:20 |
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| Tak | yes | 07:20 |
| sciboy | Pupnik, Yeah but i only use either superficially, i just need a todo list and calendar from the palm, and the gp2x just did the video and music not so much gaming. | 07:21 |
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| Tak | what kind of calendar sync do you require? | 07:21 |
| sciboy | No sync. | 07:22 |
| sciboy | Besides the occasional backup i do everything on my palm directly. | 07:22 |
| Tak | n800 will do that then | 07:23 |
| Tak | sdhc kernel + 2 8G cards will be nice for music/video too | 07:24 |
| Pupnik | man Tak, you gotta see how purty exult is | 07:24 |
| Tak | I've seen your sshots - it looks great | 07:25 |
| sciboy | Yeah, also the other thing is i moderate a forum or two and saving threads for offline viewing is one thing i'm hoping to do, also my digital camera and scanner suck and i need to update my "blog" with my sketches more often, 640x480 from the camera is all that i need in that department. | 07:25 |
| Tak | when I get a bigger mmc, I'll give it a whirl, uqm too | 07:25 |
| Pupnik | uqm has more problems than exult right now | 07:25 |
| sciboy | If MTPaint is decent enough i can even throw my digital doodles in there. | 07:26 |
| Tak | camera will get you that, not great quality though | 07:26 |
| Pupnik | sciboy, mtpaint is just an idea right now... | 07:26 |
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| sciboy | An idea? In that there hasn't been a port yet? | 07:27 |
| Pupnik | well you can run it | 07:27 |
| Tak | could do very simple doodles with maemopad+ | 07:27 |
| unique311 | not the same | 07:28 |
| Pupnik | http://pupnik/de/mtpain.html | 07:28 |
| Pupnik | mtpaint sorry | 07:28 |
| unique311 | my doodles require blur | 07:28 |
| unique311 | lol | 07:28 |
| unique311 | smudge | 07:28 |
| unique311 | can make magic happen with those tools | 07:28 |
| Pupnik | dmitry is working on that | 07:28 |
| Pupnik | then when we get pressure included, it could rock | 07:29 |
| unique311 | the maker of maemopad+ should think of adding | 07:29 |
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| sciboy | unique311, I stopped using smudge ages ago, it's all soft edged brushes for my blending now. | 07:29 |
| Pupnik | got any artwork online sciboy? | 07:29 |
| sciboy | Pupnik, Like i said my scanner and camera have been completely unreliable but i got some old ones lying around. | 07:30 |
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| Pupnik | check out what i did on a 486 in 1994 | 07:30 |
| sciboy | Pupnik, http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37665897/ | 07:30 |
| Pupnik | http://pupnik.de/brainmlt.jpg | 07:30 |
| Pupnik | ok | 07:30 |
| sciboy | http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4791/slicerkk3.jpg | 07:30 |
| febb | hi all | 07:30 |
| Pupnik | not bad sciboy | 07:32 |
| Tak | first one somewhat daliesque | 07:32 |
| sciboy | Got a whole bunch of life drawings and portraits from starting art school last week, but above mentioned issues with my scanner has pervented me from uploading them. | 07:33 |
| Tak | I suspect the n800's camera will not suffice for sketch capture | 07:34 |
| sciboy | 640x480 is the size i upload them at, so unless there's issues with its focus it should be fine. | 07:35 |
| Tak | focus, contrast, lighting | 07:36 |
| Tak | it's about equivalent to a phonecam | 07:36 |
| Pupnik | tak what are your thoughts about how intel tablets will affect maemo? | 07:39 |
| sciboy | Tak, It's better than nothing, which is what my other options are giving me right now. =| | 07:39 |
| Tak | imo the intel tablets will be a good thing | 07:40 |
| Tak | maemo will have fulltime contributors other than nokia | 07:40 |
| Tak | sciboy: understood | 07:41 |
| unique311 | http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/unique311/?action=view¤t=Budn800screen.jpg | 07:41 |
| unique311 | pretty descent stuff i did earlier | 07:41 |
| unique311 | nothing compare to the work done on my phone | 07:42 |
| Tak | what we really need is more people to tell the 'gtk-sucks-it-needs-to-be-more-like-(something)' and the 'gtk-sucks-maemo-should-switch-to-(something)' whiners to stfu | 07:42 |
| Pupnik | nice unique311 | 07:45 |
| Pupnik | i find my attitude really turns around when i discover i can make something happen | 07:46 |
| Pupnik | if i feel like i can't do anything, i bitch and whine | 07:46 |
| Pupnik | if i see a way to make something better, i turn into a productive (sort of) person | 07:47 |
| Pupnik | and what kills me is that tak's fceu works fine with pixel doubling | 07:48 |
| Pupnik | and my UQM does not | 07:48 |
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| Pupnik | that makes me freaking suicidal | 07:48 |
| Pupnik | oh and ... the game window is doubled, but the buttons are not? | 07:49 |
| Pupnik | what? | 07:49 |
| Pupnik | excuse me? | 07:50 |
| Tak | that is correct | 07:50 |
| Pupnik | and... where is that .. specified? | 07:50 |
| * sciboy is toying with mtpaint. | 07:50 | |
| Tak | I was surprised too | 07:50 |
| Tak | it's because the buttons are blitted using SDL_Flip, I believe | 07:52 |
| Tak | btw, do you have the same problem pressing the buttons with os2007on770? | 07:52 |
| Pupnik | ok 1) i found that sdl_flip disabled doubling on it2006 also | 07:52 |
| Tak | (e.g. thumbpress won't work, but tap does) | 07:52 |
| Pupnik | when i pulled sdl_flip out of uqm i saw less reducement to 1x scaling | 07:53 |
| Pupnik | 2) i couldn't press buttons on 2007 | 07:53 |
| Pupnik | i am afraid that this it2007 on 770 is going to die | 07:54 |
| Tak | aha! | 07:54 |
| Pupnik | from a market standpoint | 07:54 |
| Tak | try tapping the stylus on them | 07:54 |
| Pupnik | i would like to ... | 07:54 |
| Pupnik | ok | 07:54 |
| Pupnik | no i broke my it2007 | 07:55 |
| Pupnik | maybe i can ssh with export display | 07:56 |
| Tak | lol ack | 07:56 |
| Pupnik | note- don't delete themes | 07:57 |
| Tak | heh | 07:58 |
| Pupnik | now all menu items have lost their onscreen names and display stuff like secu_notify_tk_open | 07:58 |
| Tak | eek | 07:58 |
| Pupnik | look at the themes and locales | 07:58 |
| Tak | can you reinstall theme? | 07:58 |
| Pupnik | they take up a lot of space | 07:58 |
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| * Tak shrugs | 07:59 | |
| Pupnik | i just went on a theme and locale deleting spree to free up space | 07:59 |
| Pupnik | for my test apps | 07:59 |
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| Pupnik | cause the mmc1 can't hold executeables | 07:59 |
| Pupnik | and after installing it2007 and necessary libs/deps i only had about 30MB free | 07:59 |
| Pupnik | it did free about 7MB | 08:00 |
| Pupnik | oh locked | 08:00 |
| Tak | how big mmc? | 08:00 |
| Pupnik | like locking a 770 makes sense | 08:00 |
| Pupnik | 2GB | 08:00 |
| Tak | could do the os-on-mmc thing | 08:00 |
| Pupnik | will do soon | 08:00 |
| Pupnik | but need the fast-mmc kernel | 08:00 |
| Tak | heh, I lock mine all the time | 08:01 |
| Pupnik | why | 08:01 |
| Pupnik | do you leave your 770 lying around in bars? | 08:01 |
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| Tak | no, I put it in my pocket | 08:14 |
| * sciboy ponders. | 08:20 | |
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| sciboy | Oh and one application i want to make is an alarm with puzzles, since i've got a nasty habit of being able to switch my alarm off in my sleep. | 08:21 |
| Tak | that would be cool | 08:24 |
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| sciboy | Any australian users? | 08:25 |
| Pupnik | alarm with puzzles is the most creative thing i've heard of in a long time | 08:26 |
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| Pupnik | on the other hand, it's the principle behind the chastity belt as well... | 08:28 |
| sciboy | Need something other than coffee to jump start my brain in the morning. | 08:28 |
| Pupnik | sciboy: if the 800x480 screen and the cheap price and linux doesn't make you want one... | 08:29 |
| sciboy | Oh it does. | 08:29 |
| sciboy | Very much so, but as a student i have to consider purchases more closely. | 08:29 |
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| Pupnik | ok. my purchase wasn't rational so i won't say any more | 08:31 |
| Pupnik | it was just too cool | 08:32 |
| sciboy | Hehe, it just seems maybe a small proper tablet pc would be the better decision. | 08:33 |
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| sciboy | Big bummer they don't retail it in Australia either. | 08:39 |
| sciboy | I swear the ad with "N Series coming soon" had a N800 on it. | 08:42 |
| Tak | heh, my fiancée got one as a portable media player/browser, and was gracious enough to let me hack around when she wasn't using it | 08:47 |
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| sciboy | So no Australian users | 09:09 |
| sciboy | =/ | 09:09 |
| sciboy | That can't be right. | 09:09 |
| Tak | I'm planning to move to Australia in a few years; does that count? | 09:10 |
| Tak | it might have something to do with Australia not being one of nokia's 'blessed' countries | 09:11 |
| sciboy | Yeah, been wondering why since there's definitely a tech. market down here. | 09:11 |
| Tak | I'm not sure either | 09:12 |
| sciboy | This is just one of the products i'd exercise the 7 day money back guarentee on, cause really i would need to see how it affects my routine. | 09:14 |
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| sciboy | o_o | 09:16 |
| sciboy | Woah, someone is obsessive, a 3d skeletal rig with 680 bones. | 09:17 |
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| roope | Hi urho. :) | 09:19 |
| sciboy | Actually if one of you could do me a favor and take a photo using the n800 of some page with pencil or text on it. | 09:20 |
| sciboy | The digital doodle stuff is completely optional since if the photos aren't that terribly bad i can just get use to my watercolours. | 09:20 |
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| tigert | the camera is not exactly like that | 09:33 |
| sciboy | Like what? | 09:34 |
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| Okko | sciboy: http://okko.net/pencil.jpg, is that what you were asking for? | 09:37 |
| sciboy | Close enough. =P | 09:37 |
| Tak | lol | 09:38 |
| sciboy | Good enough to blog with. | 09:39 |
| Okko | pencil AND text on some page :-) | 09:39 |
| Okko | copy the image to yourself if you are going to use it, I'm going to remove it from my server | 09:40 |
| sciboy | I mean, camera wise. | 09:41 |
| sciboy | It's good enough to blog with. | 09:41 |
| Okko | ok :) | 09:41 |
| sciboy | Thanks. | 09:43 |
| Okko | no problem | 09:44 |
| roope | xit | 09:44 |
| Okko | sciboy: did you find some store that will ship to australia? | 09:44 |
| Okko | (was it you who was looking for one) | 09:44 |
| sciboy | I was hoping for recommendations. | 09:44 |
| Okko | sorry, don't know any local stores here that would ship there | 09:48 |
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| sciboy | My only concern with buying overseas is having it get stuck in the mail for over a month. | 10:05 |
| Toni | ask them to deliver via courier | 10:06 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:46 |
| sxpert_ | morning | 10:47 |
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| sciboy | MORNING | 10:52 |
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| sciboy | I am aussie and deprived of N800ie goodness. | 10:53 |
| sxpert_ | I'm french and am also deprived (my bank account refused) ;D | 10:55 |
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| sylvanthis | hello, i installed becomeroot, but if i do sudo gainroot, it doesn't execute /etc/profile, how can i make it do so (without having to do so manually all the time?) (i tried sudo gainroot << EOF | 11:08 |
| sylvanthis | source /etc/profile | 11:08 |
| sylvanthis | EOF | 11:08 |
| sylvanthis | but it didn't work | 11:08 |
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| tigert | I think gainroot doesnt do any params? | 11:09 |
| sylvanthis | apparantly, but i do want to execute /etc/profile (which also executes /root/.bashrc and some other scripts) | 11:10 |
| sylvanthis | apparently* | 11:10 |
| tigert | if you use the maemo-hackers xterm it should read your own .profile | 11:11 |
| tigert | it should be a login shell now | 11:11 |
| tigert | but got to run now | 11:11 |
| sylvanthis | ok thnx | 11:11 |
| tigert | another thing you could try is to make your own command and add it to /etc/sudoers? | 11:11 |
| tigert | it might work? | 11:11 |
| sylvanthis | hmm i ll try it | 11:12 |
| tigert | -> & | 11:12 |
| sylvanthis | & > | 11:12 |
| sylvanthis | ? | 11:12 |
| tigert | "going to background" :) | 11:13 |
| inz | sylvanthis, you could also alter gainroot and change the line /bin/sh to /bin/su - | 11:13 |
| tigert | as for, "I am heading off now" :) | 11:13 |
| sylvanthis | tigert, ok :) | 11:13 |
| sylvanthis | inz, hmm ok, but then i'd also have to compile it into a right deb right? | 11:14 |
| sylvanthis | inz, i also tried compiling a deb, but it failed to install for some reason (said something about something/FOO missing :S) it was i386 compiled | 11:14 |
| inz | sylvanthis, you don't have to | 11:14 |
| sylvanthis | inz, i dont? | 11:15 |
| inz | sylvan, if you just edit it on the device | 11:15 |
| inz | sylvan, there should be vi there ;) | 11:15 |
| sylvanthis | inz, isn't it a binairy? | 11:15 |
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| inz | sylvan, nope, a sh script | 11:15 |
| sylvanthis | inz, yea i installed it | 11:15 |
| sylvanthis | inz, ahhh ok :) | 11:15 |
| sylvanthis | inz, where can i find it? /sbin/gainroot or something? | 11:16 |
| inz | /usr/sbin/gainroot | 11:16 |
| sylvanthis | thnx :) | 11:16 |
| sciboy | Isn't there a wiki page or forum thread with recommended retailers? =/ | 11:21 |
| sylvanthis | inz, did the job =) im happy | 11:24 |
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| maddler | morning all... | 11:51 |
| sciboy | Hi | 11:53 |
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| tko | http://www.bbspot.com/comics/PC-Weenies/2007/04/2681.php :) | 11:58 |
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| sciboy | ;_; | 12:09 |
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| Knirch | :q | 12:50 |
| Knirch | whoops | 12:50 |
| tko | so this is why wii is so popular... :-P http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9136575504838642038 | 12:58 |
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| bilboed | tko, lol :) | 13:11 |
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| Jaffa | Interesting email from quim | 13:18 |
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| timeless | help | 13:29 |
| timeless | my "mouse" is stuck in drag mode | 13:29 |
| timeless | how do i stop it? | 13:29 |
| timeless | (it's dragging my text from the browser location bar ) | 13:30 |
| timeless | wow | 13:31 |
| timeless | even the power key dialog doesn't work | 13:31 |
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| [pcfe] | timeless: try switching to vt1 (ctrl-alt-F1) and back to X (generally on F7, so alt-F7) | 14:00 |
| inz | [pcfe], it's quite hard on a touchscreen device ;) | 14:02 |
| inz | timeless, I don't know how to stop it, but the reason for power key dialog not working is most likely that while dragging, gtk holds grabs | 14:03 |
| [pcfe] | inz: doh! I forgot this was #maemo and not some Fedora channel, my bad | 14:03 |
| inz | =) | 14:03 |
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| timeless | indeed n800 lacks control, alt, backspace, and f1 | 14:16 |
| sciboy | Heh | 14:17 |
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| inz | time, you could try ssh'ing in and killing the blocking prog | 14:30 |
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| sciboy | Damn it, why won't nokia make it easier to take my money? D= | 14:32 |
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| sciboy | So i can assume there won't be an australian release for the n800? | 15:12 |
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| sciboy | Bugger, found an ebay seller but it's $50 shipping. | 15:50 |
| Jaffa | sciboy: look at myus.com and get them to ship to your temporary US address? | 15:53 |
| sciboy | temporary us address? | 15:54 |
| sciboy | Intriguing... | 15:54 |
| Jaffa | http://www.myus.com/about/#pf | 15:54 |
| Jaffa | Saw it in yesterday's paper, and I thought "intriguing" too | 15:55 |
| sciboy | The postage still costs about the same. =/ | 15:55 |
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| sciboy | I wish they'd just release the darn thing in Australia. | 15:56 |
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| unique311 | ERROR: No such file or directory | 16:48 |
| unique311 | ERROR: execve(/scratchbox/tools/bin/env, /scratchbox/tools/bin/env..., SSH_AGENT_PID=6832...) | 16:48 |
| unique311 | ERROR: No such file or directory | 16:48 |
| unique311 | ERROR: execve(/scratchbox/tools/bin/python, /scratchbox/tools/bin/python..., SSH_AGENT_PID=6832...) | 16:48 |
| unique311 | /usr/bin/scratchbox: line 243: /scratchbox/tools/bin/wc: No such file or directory | 16:48 |
| unique311 | help me howard | 16:49 |
| unique311 | scratchbox from apt-get | 16:49 |
| unique311 | but won't start | 16:49 |
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| unique311 | /usr/bin/scratchbox: line 243: /scratchbox/tools/bin/wc: No such file or directory | 16:56 |
| unique311 | the file is here | 16:56 |
| unique311 | there* | 16:56 |
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| unique311 | why is it com-plaining | 16:56 |
| Tak|work | borked permission? | 16:57 |
| dragorn | run ldd on it, it's possible your libs are screwed up and that error is from ld, not indicating that the file wc is missing | 16:57 |
| sciboy | Or as a remote possibility wc is the one returning that error. | 16:57 |
| dragorn | I don't know what the post installer does for lib configuration | 16:57 |
| unique311 | thanks | 16:58 |
| dragorn | sciboy: ld will return weird errors like that when it's deeply screwed (missing libc, missing ld.so) | 16:58 |
| unique311 | unique311@unique311:~$ sudo ldd /scratchbox/tools/bin/env | 17:00 |
| unique311 | /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: /scratchbox/tools/bin/env: No such file or directory | 17:00 |
| dragorn | That line number makes me think you've got something terribly broken | 17:02 |
| dragorn | since it shouldn't be parsing ldd as a script | 17:03 |
| b0unc3 | hmmm.. maybe you need to start the scratchbox first, and then run ldd | 17:06 |
| unique311 | scratchbox won't start | 17:06 |
| unique311 | ERROR: No such file or directory | 17:06 |
| unique311 | ERROR: execve(/scratchbox/tools/bin/env, /scratchbox/tools/bin/env..., SSH_AGENT_PID=6832...) | 17:06 |
| unique311 | ERROR: No such file or directory | 17:06 |
| unique311 | ERROR: execve(/scratchbox/tools/bin/python, /scratchbox/tools/bin/python..., SSH_AGENT_PID=6832...) | 17:06 |
| unique311 | /usr/bin/scratchbox: line 243: /scratchbox/tools/bin/wc: No such file or directory | 17:06 |
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| unique311 | when i run scratchbox | 17:06 |
| dpb_ | you do actually have all of the package installed? | 17:07 |
| dpb_ | packages* | 17:07 |
| unique311 | yes | 17:07 |
| unique311 | followed the instructions on the site | 17:07 |
| unique311 | apt-get | 17:07 |
| unique311 | the folder is there | 17:07 |
| dpb_ | are the tools? | 17:07 |
| unique311 | hmmm | 17:08 |
| unique311 | yes | 17:08 |
| dpb_ | do they have run access? | 17:09 |
| unique311 | to the scratchbox folder | 17:09 |
| b0unc3 | unique311: this is the output of sbox_ctl or login ? | 17:09 |
| dpb_ | ls -l /scratchbox/tools/bin/env | 17:09 |
| unique311 | root | 17:09 |
| unique311 | ? | 17:09 |
| unique311 | just check wc | 17:10 |
| unique311 | owner root | 17:10 |
| unique311 | group root | 17:10 |
| unique311 | ? | 17:10 |
| unique311 | supposed to be user | 17:10 |
| dpb_ | what does that ls -l give? | 17:10 |
| unique311 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14460 2006-11-29 22:21 /scratchbox/tools/bin/env | 17:10 |
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| dpb_ | hmm, that's right. weird. | 17:12 |
| unique311 | b0unc3 output of login | 17:15 |
| unique311 | sbox_ctl | 17:15 |
| unique311 | should i try that | 17:15 |
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| unique311 | well going to try using the script route... | 17:33 |
| unique311 | anyone using scratchbox on ubuntu | 17:33 |
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| bipolar | Is there a bot in this channel? | 18:35 |
| inz | nope | 18:36 |
| inz | There's a svn watcher on #maemo-commits | 18:36 |
| bipolar | I was hoping for a !seen command :) | 18:36 |
| inz | Whom do you want to !seen? | 18:37 |
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| bipolar | kkito | 18:42 |
| bipolar | I'll just use the log | 18:42 |
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| Tak|work | anyone know if a new hacker edition release is being planned yet? | 19:10 |
| bipolar | Tak|work: I think so. | 19:18 |
| bipolar | Tak|work: I just saw a post on mameo planet about it | 19:18 |
| bipolar | http://www.internettablettalk.com/2007/04/30/nokia-770-developement-to-continue/ | 19:20 |
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| Tak|work | well, I meant something like: "Yeah, we're planning to do another release maybe mid-may that incorporates the stuff from the latest bora release, oh and btw we fixed #735" | 19:21 |
| bipolar | heh... sorry. didn't see anything like that :) | 19:28 |
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| Pupnik | deleting locales in-use has funny results - menu labels disappear | 19:32 |
| Pupnik | you can fix it by switching language/locale to one of the remaining locales | 19:32 |
| Pupnik | much space on root filesystem can be freed by removing unneeded locales and themes | 19:33 |
| bill20r3 | so I dragged out my zaurus over the weekend. | 19:33 |
| bill20r3 | a sl-5500 is no N800. | 19:33 |
| Pupnik | i almost bought one when they were new but the low res held me off | 19:34 |
| Pupnik | what in particular strikes you as inferior now? | 19:35 |
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| bill20r3 | it's just so slow. | 19:36 |
| bill20r3 | the resolution is lower of course, but it's mostly the speed that makes it bad. | 19:36 |
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| jamey | hi all | 21:18 |
| jamey | are there any tricks to making a new initfs.jffs2? | 21:18 |
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| etrunko | fyi evince is now available for N800 in the extras repository | 21:22 |
| etrunko | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/bora/install/evince.install | 21:24 |
| derf | Is it as godawful slow as the built-in PDF viewer? | 21:24 |
| etrunko | derf: please test it | 21:26 |
| * etrunko wants feedbacks | 21:27 | |
| etrunko | it's using cairo as backend | 21:27 |
| derf | etrunko: Maybe tonight... no wireless at work. | 21:27 |
| etrunko | ok | 21:27 |
| etrunko | i'll post in my blog... the feedbacks can go there | 21:27 |
| etrunko | derf: in my opinion its way better than the built in pdf viewer | 21:28 |
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| bill20r3 | it has rotate. | 21:33 |
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| tigert | etrunko: does it rotate? | 22:15 |
| tigert | eh | 22:15 |
| tigert | :) | 22:15 |
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| * tigert should read first | 22:15 | |
| etrunko | tigert: :) | 22:16 |
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| osfameron | heh, vim on n800 isn't too bad at all | 22:35 |
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| osfameron | surprisingly ergonomic | 22:35 |
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| sussman | ok, who was it who told me to buy a stowaway sierra keyboard? | 23:02 |
| sussman | whoever it was, thanks. it's just awesome. | 23:02 |
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| Pupnik | sussman :) | 23:39 |
| Pupnik | ahh | 23:39 |
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| jamey | scratchbox gives me such a headache sometimes | 23:55 |
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