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| dolfun | \o/ | 00:14 |
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| dolfun | uqm 0.6.2 running on nokia 770 | 00:14 |
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| dolfun | i don't think you're happy enough | 00:29 |
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| dolfun | hi florian | 00:36 |
| florian | hi dolfun | 00:36 |
| dolfun | i have no idea where i got libmikmod.so for armel | 00:37 |
| dolfun | guess i'll just put it into the uqm package | 00:38 |
| dolfun | although somewhere god will probably kill a kitten | 00:39 |
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| spaetz | \j #gentoo-dev | 00:44 |
| spaetz | ooops | 00:44 |
| kender | hehe | 00:45 |
| kender | spaetz, are you working on the gentoo distro for the N{770,800} | 00:46 |
| kender | ? | 00:46 |
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| spaetz | kender, no i'm not that crazy :-) | 00:50 |
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| kender | hehehe | 00:51 |
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| dolfun | some tips on building uqm https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?thread_id=888&forum_id=858 | 00:52 |
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| *** qgil changes topic to "maemo is the application development platform for the Nokia Internet Tablets | Good questions deserve better answers | http://maemo.org | irc logs at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/ | http://maemo.org/maemowiki/GoogleSoC2007" | 00:56 | |
| unice | anybody seen a build of ruby for n800? | 00:56 |
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| * dolfun ponders... 2x scaler hack or ogg to mp3 conversion... | 01:44 | |
| kender | great | 01:47 |
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| dolfun | combat is bitterly slow - 3-4 fps atm | 01:50 |
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| jwb_gone | did someone ever get ogg on n800? | 02:06 |
| dolfun | i see libraries for ogg | 02:06 |
| dolfun | for the 770 | 02:06 |
| dolfun | apt-cache search libvorbisidec1 | 02:07 |
| jwb_gone | will those work on the 800 though? | 02:07 |
| dolfun | do the search on your 800 | 02:08 |
| jwb_gone | wouldn't my results depend on what repositories i have set up? | 02:08 |
| dolfun | yeah | 02:09 |
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| dolfun | ok with openal and low sound quality the game sound is almost glitch free, going to look at the scaling first | 02:34 |
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| s100user | hi | 03:24 |
| dolfun | For those who can't wait, here's the debug binary for Ur-Quan Masters / OS 2006 https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1061/UQM_Maemo_OS2006_0.1.tgz | 03:29 |
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| DIrEctQL | hey | 03:33 |
| DIrEctQL | is there a way to get native compiler on the tablet? | 03:33 |
| s100user | it should be possible | 03:33 |
| s100user | enable the red pill mode, ans see if gcc is listed.... | 03:34 |
| DIrEctQL | red pill mode? | 03:34 |
| s100user | don't know the trick? | 03:34 |
| DIrEctQL | no | 03:35 |
| DIrEctQL | i'm new | 03:35 |
| s100user | this is more for developers... | 03:35 |
| DIrEctQL | to MAemo | 03:35 |
| s100user | but anyway, just for fun... | 03:35 |
| DIrEctQL | i got the devfs on it | 03:35 |
| s100user | go to the repositories... | 03:35 |
| DIrEctQL | but i don't see gcc | 03:35 |
| DIrEctQL | link? | 03:35 |
| s100user | no.. | 03:35 |
| s100user | use the app in the tabblet... | 03:35 |
| s100user | add a new repository | 03:35 |
| DIrEctQL | right | 03:35 |
| s100user | type matrix inthe url | 03:36 |
| s100user | then select cancel | 03:36 |
| s100user | ;) | 03:36 |
| s100user | select red pill mode | 03:36 |
| s100user | now, if you go back to install app, you'll get lots and lots of hidden commands... | 03:36 |
| DIrEctQL | ohh | 03:36 |
| DIrEctQL | yeah | 03:37 |
| s100user | don't forget to switch back to blue pill... | 03:37 |
| DIrEctQL | i noticed that dpkg lists more utilities | 03:37 |
| DIrEctQL | than the app tool lists | 03:37 |
| s100user | so.. did it work? | 03:38 |
| s100user | btw, what tablet are you using? | 03:38 |
| s100user | I know this works on the 770... not sure about the n800... | 03:38 |
| jacques | red pill works on N800 | 03:38 |
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| s100user | nice. I still have the 770. I'm thinking about upgrading to the n800... | 03:39 |
| DIrEctQL | n800 | 03:39 |
| DIrEctQL | just bothers me that i have to setup a cross build enviroment | 03:39 |
| DIrEctQL | i would rather compile navetly | 03:40 |
| DIrEctQL | i also wonder if packages from debian ARM port would work | 03:40 |
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| jacques | no | 03:41 |
| jacques | maemo uses eabi | 03:41 |
| DIrEctQL | oh | 03:41 |
| DIrEctQL | there is a port of that too, no? | 03:41 |
| s100user | on the 770 there was a live bootable cd that has a ready to use dev system... | 03:42 |
| s100user | right on the beginning... | 03:42 |
| DIrEctQL | yes, i saw that | 03:42 |
| s100user | does anyone know if there's a recent version? | 03:42 |
| s100user | (I still have the original 1st one..) | 03:42 |
| DIrEctQL | i already looked | 03:42 |
| s100user | DIrEctQL: and? | 03:43 |
| DIrEctQL | nope | 03:43 |
| DIrEctQL | no new version | 03:43 |
| s100user | the one in there is still compatible with the 770? | 03:43 |
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| DIrEctQL | hmm | 03:45 |
| DIrEctQL | but if it does have arm cross-compile enviroment | 03:45 |
| DIrEctQL | you can compile a native compile enviroment | 03:46 |
| dolfun | qemu cross compiling worked here (just did it for the first time today) | 03:46 |
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| DIrEctQL | do you have an image i could get from you? | 03:49 |
| dolfun | mmm | 03:50 |
| dolfun | what OS? | 03:50 |
| DIrEctQL | ? | 03:50 |
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| dolfun | well you want to compile for a n800 right? | 03:50 |
| DIrEctQL | image of the cross enviroment | 03:50 |
| DIrEctQL | yes | 03:50 |
| Creteil | hi all | 03:50 |
| dolfun | 770 here ... hi | 03:50 |
| Creteil | i'm currently trying to install maemo gregale 2.2 devel on my box | 03:51 |
| dolfun | that's what i have here | 03:51 |
| Creteil | scratchbox clain 'You dont have active target in scratchbox chroot.' but there is no step by step informations how to create the target ... | 03:52 |
| Creteil | someone can drive me ? | 03:52 |
| dolfun | sb-menu | 03:52 |
| Creteil | dolfun : ok ... done ... then ? | 03:52 |
| dolfun | 1 log in to scratchbox 2 sb-menu and create a target | 03:53 |
| Creteil | dolfun : what make sense for 'Enter name for the new target' ? | 03:53 |
| dolfun | i used HOST | 03:54 |
| dolfun | select the "debian" devkit | 03:54 |
| Creteil | what does HOST refer to in this case ? | 03:54 |
| dolfun | just a name for the i386 build target | 03:54 |
| Creteil | dolfun : ok | 03:54 |
| dolfun | it could be "mypc" | 03:54 |
| Creteil | dolfun : no it ask me for 2 choices 1) cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm cross, 2) cs2005q3.2-glibc-i386 cross ... | 03:55 |
| dolfun | pick 2 | 03:56 |
| Creteil | well, now i have DONE, CLEAR, debian-sarge, debian, doctools, perl (i'm currently running ubuntu edgy) | 03:57 |
| dolfun | then cpu transparency none, then put the maemo rootstrap 2.2 in there | 03:57 |
| Creteil | dolfun : i'm not already at the step for cpu transparency | 03:58 |
| Creteil | well, now i have DONE, CLEAR, debian-sarge, debian, doctools, perl (i'm currently running ubuntu edgy) | 03:58 |
| dolfun | don't pick debian sarge | 03:59 |
| dolfun | i picked debian | 03:59 |
| dolfun | then done | 03:59 |
| Creteil | ok now i'm on cpu transparency and i have only none as choice ... | 04:00 |
| dolfun | right none, | 04:00 |
| Creteil | now it ask me for 'Do you wish to extract a rootstrap on the target?' | 04:00 |
| dolfun | yes | 04:00 |
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| Creteil | i suppose i have to choose 'Download Download a file via HTTP or FTP' since i have not get any rootstrap file for now ... | 04:01 |
| dolfun | yes | 04:01 |
| Creteil | for gregale 2.2 what URL i need to put ? | 04:02 |
| dolfun | once you get the target set up | 04:02 |
| dolfun | you'll want to get xephyr x server | 04:03 |
| dolfun | i don't know the url | 04:03 |
| Creteil | well look like i found it in Maemo tutorial, have a look : | 04:04 |
| Creteil | http://repository.maemo.org/stable/gregale/i386/Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.2_i386-minimal-rootstrap.tgz | 04:04 |
| dolfun | yeah | 04:04 |
| Creteil | look good for you ? | 04:04 |
| Creteil | great ... | 04:04 |
| Creteil | let me dl the file ... | 04:04 |
| dolfun | hnmm wait | 04:04 |
| Creteil | ok | 04:04 |
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| dolfun | minimal not sure if you want that | 04:05 |
| Creteil | tutorial say : | 04:05 |
| Creteil | To test the maemo platform and applications, you need the i386 rootstrap. To be able to build packages for maemo devices, you also need the ARMEL rootstrap, whose installation is covered later. | 04:05 |
| dolfun | right | 04:06 |
| dolfun | i think that's the right rootstrap - mine just didn't say minimal | 04:06 |
| dolfun | i have Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.0_i386-rootstrap.tgz lying around here | 04:06 |
| Creteil | ok so let me start the dl now ... | 04:06 |
| dolfun | yeah go for it | 04:06 |
| Creteil | Failed to download rootstrap: │ | 04:07 |
| Creteil | │ http://repository.maemo.org/stable/gregale/i386/Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.2_ │ | 04:07 |
| Creteil | :-( | 04:07 |
| dolfun | http://repository.maemo.org/stable/2.2/i386/Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.2_i386-rootstrap.tgz | 04:07 |
| dolfun | i don't know what's missing in the minimal | 04:07 |
| dolfun | http://repository.maemo.org/stable/gregale/i386/Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.2_i386-rootstrap.tgz | 04:08 |
| dolfun | ahh there's the gregale | 04:08 |
| Creteil | argh !!! | 04:09 |
| Creteil | already started the dl from the precedent url | 04:09 |
| Creteil | oh | 04:09 |
| Creteil | it's the same | 04:09 |
| Creteil | i remember 2.2 is symbolic link to gregale or vice versa somewhere | 04:10 |
| Creteil | don't know what you are thinking in general about maemo.org site, but imho, i'm really thinking it's a big bazar !!! | 04:11 |
| Creteil | :-) | 04:11 |
| Creteil | damn, 130Mo approx with only a 1024 dsl line :-( | 04:12 |
| Creteil | 16% | 04:12 |
| dolfun | what does the o stand for in french? | 04:12 |
| Creteil | dolfun : what do you mean by that ? :-) | 04:12 |
| dolfun | ahh MegaOctets | 04:13 |
| Creteil | yep | 04:13 |
| Creteil | :-) | 04:13 |
| Creteil | oh and it's only 45 mins approx from the 1st 2007 F1 grand prix | 04:14 |
| Creteil | eheheheheh | 04:14 |
| Creteil | Forza Ferrari !!! | 04:14 |
| Creteil | ;-) | 04:14 |
| dolfun | what are you interested in compiling / porting to nokia ? | 04:16 |
| Creteil | dolfun : to be honest, i don't already know, just want to learn and test ... | 04:17 |
| dolfun | i just got one of the best games ever compiled for 770 - Ur Quan Masters | 04:19 |
| Creteil | i'm currently try to determine why since i buyed this device it constantly reboot when it come back from sleep mode | 04:20 |
| Creteil | it's annoying !!! | 04:20 |
| Creteil | i have waited for many upgrade and the garanty of 1 year have expired | 04:20 |
| Creteil | i tired of all this dhit | 04:20 |
| dolfun | sorry to hear that, i don't know a solution | 04:21 |
| Creteil | and reading about the new N800 on google, i see the second edition of the device reboot also too many times ... | 04:21 |
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| Creteil | i have waited for images updates thinking the problem where fixed, but without any chances :-( | 04:22 |
| Creteil | the bug is always reproduceable | 04:22 |
| Creteil | it's amazing Nokia buy shit like that | 04:22 |
| Creteil | the bug is also here after a fresh flash of latest image, and without installing any applications ... | 04:23 |
| dolfun | that sounds like hardware problems to me | 04:24 |
| Creteil | i just wait for the device switch screen totally off, the i tap the touch screen, then i have approx 1 minute before the device freeze and finally reboot | 04:24 |
| Creteil | dolfun : if it's hardware is in fault, the it's in fault since i buyed it, because it bugged like that since the 1st day :-( | 04:25 |
| Creteil | the only error i made is thinking it's a firmware bug and waiting for updates ... | 04:26 |
| Creteil | this bug render the device totally unusable :-( | 04:27 |
| dolfun | hmm | 04:27 |
| Creteil | Unpacking rootstrap... | 04:28 |
| dolfun | if you had a program to disable sleep mode / screen dimming, you would be ok | 04:28 |
| Creteil | yes | 04:29 |
| Creteil | already checked that with navicore 2007 europe | 04:29 |
| Creteil | the prog leave the screen on | 04:29 |
| Creteil | then it work properly | 04:29 |
| Creteil | look at http://pastebin.ca/399580 it's the dmesg output when the device goes to reboot after unsleeping | 04:30 |
| Creteil | well, now scratchbox ask me for 'Do you wish to install files to the target?' | 04:31 |
| Creteil | i suppose i need to answer yes here ? | 04:31 |
| dolfun | y | 04:31 |
| Creteil | ok now it ask me many choices with checkboxes for C-library, /etc, Devkits, fakeroot, gdb, strace | 04:33 |
| Creteil | selecting all the options look good for me ... what do you propose ? | 04:33 |
| dolfun | i selected everything, haven't needed gdb/strace yet | 04:33 |
| Creteil | ok ... i select all the stuff ... | 04:33 |
| Creteil | now it ask me for 'Do you wish to select the target?' | 04:34 |
| Creteil | yes ? | 04:34 |
| dolfun | yea | 04:35 |
| Creteil | Shell restarting... | 04:35 |
| Creteil | [sbox-HOST: ~] > | 04:35 |
| dolfun | now get xephyr on ubuntu | 04:36 |
| Creteil | via synaptix ? | 04:37 |
| Creteil | s/synaptix/synaptic/ | 04:37 |
| dolfun | whatever | 04:37 |
| Creteil | tuto say : Xephyr is pre-installed in the rootsrap. | 04:38 |
| dolfun | ah hrm yeah i think youre right | 04:38 |
| dolfun | now you can start xephyr and see the maemo desktop | 04:39 |
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| Creteil | argh | 04:45 |
| Creteil | bigbob@bigbob-laptop:~$ ./start-xephyr | 04:45 |
| Creteil | exec: 4: prefix=/scratchbox/users/bigbob/targets/HOST/usr/bin/Xephyr: not found | 04:45 |
| Creteil | :-( | 04:45 |
| Creteil | bigbob@bigbob-laptop:~$ ls -al /scratchbox/users/bigbob/targets/HOST/usr/bin/Xephyr | 04:45 |
| Creteil | -rwxr-xr-x 1 bigbob bigbob 775356 2006-09-25 12:06 /scratchbox/users/bigbob/targets/HOST/usr/bin/Xephyr* | 04:45 |
| dolfun | hm | 04:46 |
| Creteil | i have just cut-paste the example launch script from the tuto | 04:46 |
| dolfun | dude i have a bad feeling | 04:47 |
| Creteil | oops !!! | 04:47 |
| Creteil | i see the mistake | 04:47 |
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| Creteil | ok it work | 04:48 |
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| Creteil_ | <dolfun> dude i have a bad feeling <- what do you mean ? | 04:58 |
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| Creteil_ | warm up at adelaide :-) | 04:59 |
| Creteil_ | oops melbourne | 05:00 |
| Creteil_ | lol | 05:00 |
| dolfun | i see a HOST target on my scratchbox but i don't remember adding it, so... | 05:00 |
| dolfun | i am using SDK_PC and SDK_ARMEL... | 05:00 |
| Creteil_ | :-( | 05:01 |
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| * dolfun tries to find tak's 2x scaling code in fceu | 05:06 | |
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| Prez_ | hello | 05:18 |
| Prez_ | is there a telnet client for the n800 | 05:19 |
| dolfun | there's one for 770 | 05:20 |
| Prez_ | u think it'll work on n800? | 05:22 |
| Tenkawa | it should | 05:22 |
| Prez_ | at maemo.org? | 05:22 |
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| dolfun | Tak, anybody with pointers to 2x scaling? | 06:24 |
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| dolfun | http://www.maemo.org/maemowiki/GameDevelopment | 06:38 |
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| wolfg | I can't log in downloads.maemo.org with my garage account. why? | 07:30 |
| bmidgley | didn't they reorg credentials recently? | 07:31 |
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| wolfg | I create a new one, still no luck. | 07:33 |
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| * dolfun is breaking his compile by including SDL_syswm.h | 08:00 | |
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| keesj | dolfun: on the n800 or 770? there is a pixel doubling page on the maemo wiki | 09:21 |
| keesj | the current n800 does not support the pixel doubling feature but there is a bug report about this , the resolution was that the next relase of it2007 would support pixel doubling | 09:22 |
| dolfun | hi i am working with it on the 770 | 09:24 |
| dolfun | got it almost working, just a link error now | 09:24 |
| dolfun | ./build.sh uqm | 09:24 |
| dolfun | LINK uqm-debug | 09:25 |
| dolfun | obj/debug/src/sc2code/libs/graphics/sdl/sdl_common.c.o: In function `set_doubling':src/sc2code/libs/graphics/sdl/sdl_common.c:70: undefined reference to `XSPSetPixelDoubling' | 09:25 |
| dolfun | ^keesj | 09:25 |
| dolfun | uqm_LDFLAGS=' -L/usr/lib -lSDL | 09:26 |
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| dolfun | /usr/lib/libSDL.so -> libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1 | 09:26 |
| dolfun | /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 -> libSDL-1.2.so.0.7.1 | 09:26 |
| dolfun | and there are no other sdl problems (app compiles fine) | 09:27 |
| dolfun | just that one function? | 09:27 |
| dolfun | the ahhhhhhhh | 09:29 |
| dolfun | i might have to link something with X11 | 09:29 |
| dolfun | since Xsp is in X11/extensions/Xsp.h | 09:30 |
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| dolfun | hah RTFM! | 09:31 |
| dolfun | -lXsp | 09:31 |
| keesj | dolfun: you are hakcing in libsdl? | 09:34 |
| dolfun | i don't udnerstand. the game uses sdl. | 09:35 |
| dolfun | testing hw scaling in a minute | 09:35 |
| keesj | what is src/sc2code/libs/graphics/sdl/sdl_common.c | 09:35 |
| keesj | simcity2000? | 09:35 |
| dolfun | oh, Star Control 2 / Ur-Quan Masters | 09:36 |
| dolfun | great* game | 09:36 |
| keesj | and they include the sdl libs in the code or is sdl_common sc2 specific | 09:36 |
| dolfun | sc2 specific | 09:36 |
| dolfun | meh, it didn't work | 09:37 |
| dolfun | back to drawing board | 09:38 |
| dolfun | whoah is kinda works | 09:41 |
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| dolfun | sdl guru sought. $0/hr | 11:13 |
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| keesj | :) | 11:31 |
| dolfun | the rotating planets are ~beautiful~ | 11:33 |
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| ed__ | Hi all, | 11:37 |
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| ed__ | Is anybody here able to answer "python for maemo"-related questions? | 11:39 |
| dolfun | hi ed__ | 11:39 |
| dolfun | not i | 11:39 |
| ed__ | :( | 11:39 |
| keesj | not i to | 11:39 |
| keesj | you can try anyway | 11:40 |
| keesj | You should:p | 11:40 |
| ed__ | OK. I'm trying to play with python-hildon and even examples don't work. | 11:40 |
| ed__ | look: [sbox-scirocco: ~/python/python-hildon-0.8.7] > ./examples/wip/download.py | 11:41 |
| ed__ | Traceback (most recent call last): | 11:41 |
| ed__ | File "/home/ed/python/python-hildon-0.8.7/examples/wip/download.py", line 233, in <module> | 11:41 |
| ed__ | Download(model).run() | 11:41 |
| ed__ | File "/home/ed/python/python-hildon-0.8.7/examples/wip/download.py", line 106, in __init__ | 11:41 |
| ed__ | self.vbox = self.view.get_vbox() | 11:41 |
| ed__ | AttributeError: 'hildon.AppView' object has no attribute 'get_vbox' | 11:41 |
| ed__ | I think I misconfigured something, but have no idea what exactly :) | 11:42 |
| keesj | ed__: you have python 2.5 and such? | 11:43 |
| ed__ | Yep. The latest from scirocco repo. | 11:44 |
| melmoth | i play with python too, but am completly lost as soon as it start to be libosso related :( | 11:47 |
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| ed__ | well, last time I tried to play with it I managed to even build gconf and gnomevfs bindings, ipython and a couple of other python packages. After that I screwed up my scratchbox target and now I'm trying to set up it again with no luck :( | 11:51 |
| melmoth | there seems to be no get_vbox method anyway: | 11:51 |
| melmoth | import hildon | 11:51 |
| melmoth | for i in dir(hildon.AppView): | 11:51 |
| melmoth | print i | 11:51 |
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| ed__ | Yeah, I understand that. The question is 'why?". | 11:52 |
| melmoth | don't ask me ; it tool me hours to realise i could use 'dir' when there was no 'help' :) | 11:53 |
| ed__ | :). I'd recommend you to use ipython. It has nice python completions. | 11:54 |
| melmoth | hmmm. | 11:55 |
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| melmoth | haven you ported ipython and put it on garage ? | 11:56 |
| ed__ | look: In [2]: app=hildon.A | 11:56 |
| ed__ | hildon.AddHomeDialog hildon.App hildon.AppView | 11:56 |
| ed__ | It was <TAB> pressed at the end of 1st line. | 11:56 |
| ed__ | Yes, I rebuilt it, but not uploaded to maemo. If you wan't to try I can give you a package, no prob. | 11:57 |
| melmoth | yop. i386 .deb would do | 11:57 |
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| melmoth | and you should consider putting it on a web page somewhere so people can use it :) | 11:58 |
| ed__ | Well, I'm going to speek with maemo python developers first. It's not user application, it's developer tool. | 11:59 |
| ed__ | melmoth: enjoy :) bartosh.org/ipython_0.7.3-2.maemo1_all.deb | 12:01 |
| melmoth | cheers | 12:02 |
| ed__ | let me know is any. | 12:02 |
| melmoth | connexion refused... | 12:02 |
| ed__ | hmm. Just a minute. | 12:03 |
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| ed__ | it works just fine for me: wget http://bartosh.org/ipython_0.7.3-2.maemo1_all.deb | 12:04 |
| melmoth | grumble. Let me try from another box | 12:05 |
| melmoth | oh, works there. | 12:05 |
| ed__ | cool. Try it then :) | 12:05 |
| melmoth | cool. it installed and it start :) | 12:08 |
| ed__ | wow! unbelievable :) | 12:08 |
| ed__ | you can try my example to check it out. | 12:09 |
| melmoth | Excellent, i have a help() working !!! | 12:09 |
| ed__ | whith hildon.A<TAB> | 12:09 |
| melmoth | hmmm.. no auto completion | 12:10 |
| ed__ | show me what are you trying to do | 12:11 |
| melmoth | app=hildon.A<TAB> | 12:11 |
| ed__ | btw, does it show its prompt in green color? | 12:11 |
| melmoth | no color. | 12:12 |
| ed__ | did you imported hildon before? just curious :) | 12:12 |
| melmoth | yep :) it s imported. | 12:12 |
| melmoth | but the main feature i lacked was help :) so it s cool anyway | 12:12 |
| ed__ | show me the output of 'dpkg -l |grep curses' | 12:13 |
| ed__ | It has a lot of features, beleive me :) | 12:13 |
| melmoth | ii libncurses5 5.4-3.osso1 Shared libraries for terminal handling | 12:13 |
| melmoth | ii libncurses5-dev 5.4-3.osso1 Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses | 12:14 |
| melmoth | ii ncurses-base 5.4-3.osso1 Descriptions of common terminal types | 12:14 |
| ed__ | 12:15 | |
| ed__ | dpkg -l |grep readline | 12:15 |
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| melmoth | nothing | 12:15 |
| ed__ | apt-get install libreadline4 | 12:15 |
| melmoth | ok | 12:15 |
| ed__ | and try again | 12:15 |
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| melmoth | Niiiiiiiice :) | 12:16 |
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| melmoth | colors and auto completion :) | 12:16 |
| ed__ | Congratulations! you've managed! | 12:16 |
| melmoth | ed__: would you mind me giving the url of your deb to a guy i know who would most likely like it ? | 12:17 |
| ed__ | Please do it ;) | 12:17 |
| melmoth | cheers | 12:17 |
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| ed__ | melmoth: try hildon.App?<Enter> | 12:18 |
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| melmoth | Hmm ? what is this supposed to make ? | 12:20 |
| ed__ | melmoth: I didn't try it on the device though. I only use it on PC. | 12:20 |
| melmoth | me too | 12:20 |
| melmoth | i do not code on the n800 :)) | 12:20 |
| ed__ | it should display some kind of help info, I beleive. | 12:21 |
| ed__ | BTW, you can find some ipython tips here: http://ipython.scipy.org/doc/manual/node4.html | 12:22 |
| ed__ | I hope you'll enjoy it ;) | 12:22 |
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| ed__ | i didn't check all of them, I mostly use competion feature. | 12:23 |
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| AD-N770 | good morning | 12:24 |
| dolfun | anybody have experience doing dsp mp3 playback? :) | 12:25 |
| dolfun | Ur-Quan Masters will be very fluid when it doesn't have to playback oggs/mods for music, and the 2x scaler is implemented | 12:26 |
| ptman | anyone able to log in to downloads.maemo.org | 12:26 |
| dolfun | don't have an acct there, just garage | 12:26 |
| ed__ | did you try to use garage account? | 12:27 |
| dolfun | trying now | 12:27 |
| keesj | dolfun: garage account are the only ones supported for the downloads.maemo.org | 12:29 |
| keesj | you don' | 12:29 |
| keesj | you don't need a different account | 12:29 |
| dolfun | auth failed | 12:29 |
| ptman | i can login to garage, but not to downloads.maemo.org | 12:29 |
| ptman | it's been like this for a week | 12:29 |
| melmoth | ed__: ohh the %run magic seems nice, like a sort of gdb.. | 12:30 |
| melmoth | Problem is, if the script is not laucnhed from the run-standalone wrapper, osso context cannot be started...i wonder if there is a way to sort this | 12:31 |
| ed__ | melmoth: I like you like it :) | 12:31 |
| keesj | Yup I can't login either | 12:32 |
| ed__ | melmoth: Why do you need that? What you're trying to do. | 12:32 |
| melmoth | its great indeed. You should really consider porting this officially ! | 12:32 |
| melmoth | well, right now, nothing..but it may be usefull to debug a python app. | 12:32 |
| keesj | also test.maemo.org is "hiden" behind a http authentication | 12:33 |
| ed__ | Well, for me it's just 5 minutes work to put it into extras. | 12:33 |
| ed__ | But I really don't want to make it like a separate project. I have about 5-6 python packages ported, so probably I should ask official maemo python developers to get them. But I have to make sure they work before :) | 12:35 |
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| keesj | ed__: is it simple/plain porting or is it more difficult? | 12:36 |
| ed__ | keesj: I'd say it's rebuilding and twiking. They're not gui packages but development ones. | 12:36 |
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| keesj | yes, creating different projects would not be the most time friendly solution. | 12:38 |
| ed__ | keesj: for example gconf and gnomevfs bindings, crypto, cracklib. They're kind of 'side effect' of porting revelation :) | 12:38 |
| keesj | we mudders still did not upload packages but if the diffs are to to big you could consider putting them there. | 12:39 |
| dolfun | when i uploaded to garage, it said max filesize 4MB. is there an ftp or something? | 12:40 |
| dev | hmm, my n800 has just started to reboot over and over | 12:42 |
| dev | the only way to stop this was removing the battery | 12:42 |
| dolfun | did anyone make a mini app to keep the nokia active yet? | 12:50 |
| * dolfun adds to the to-do list | 12:51 | |
| dev | seems I need to reflash it | 12:53 |
| dolfun | dunno what causes that | 12:54 |
| ed__ | try to set --no-lifeguard flag first. It might help. | 12:54 |
| ed__ | I mean not reflash, just set no-lifeguard. | 12:55 |
| ed__ | melmoth: I've just uploaded ipython 0.7.3-2.maemo2 to the same place. It has dependency to readline. Would you mind to test it? | 12:58 |
| dev | ed__: thx, will try that first | 12:59 |
| melmoth | ok let me try it out | 12:59 |
| ed__ | Please, remove libreadline4 first. | 13:00 |
| ed__ | It should be installed automatically when installing ipython. | 13:00 |
| melmoth | seems to work: | 13:02 |
| melmoth | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ipython: | 13:02 |
| melmoth | ipython depends on libreadline4; however: | 13:02 |
| melmoth | Package libreadline4 is not installed. | 13:02 |
| melmoth | i tested with dpkg , so i assume it would work on a apt repository | 13:03 |
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| keesj | i have the same with lua | 13:03 |
| ed__ | Ok, I'll probably upload it to scirocco extras and ask you to test with apt if you wouldn't mind. | 13:03 |
| keesj | libreadline is in the extra repo | 13:03 |
| keesj | so I have a nice install file but it does not work perfectly :( | 13:04 |
| keesj | I also did not understand how to add wiki pages with install intructions to the downloads.maemo.org repository | 13:05 |
| melmoth | ed__: i will probably not be able to test sirocco environment untill i ahev more disk space :( | 13:05 |
| melmoth | but i should receive a new laptop soon :) | 13:05 |
| ed__ | which one do you use? mistral? bora? | 13:05 |
| melmoth | bora | 13:05 |
| ed__ | Ok, I'll upload it to bora then. | 13:05 |
| melmoth | cheers :) | 13:06 |
| ed__ | melmoth: Can you point me out to dput.cf section for bora extras? | 13:09 |
| ed__ | found it. | 13:10 |
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| ed__ | melmoth: 'apt-get install ipython' should work now. Can you check it? And don't forget to remove libreadline4 first ;) | 13:23 |
| ed__ | I uploaded to both scirocco and bora extras. Enjoy! | 13:24 |
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| dev | ed__: only the reflash worked | 13:33 |
| ed__ | dev: :( | 13:34 |
| melmoth | apt-get install python -> | 13:37 |
| melmoth | The following NEW packages will be installed: ipython libreadline4 | 13:37 |
| melmoth | Works :) | 13:37 |
| ed__ | Thank you! | 13:37 |
| dolfun | the doubling in fceu is so easy - just needed to be activated in one spot | 13:39 |
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| dolfun | ok so maybe my libs are borked. compiling fceu | 14:11 |
| dolfun | aha! when i compile fceu i get the same strange behavior | 14:16 |
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| dolfun_ | kender, have you compiled apps with pixel-doubling? | 14:29 |
| kender | no | 14:29 |
| kender | sorry | 14:29 |
| dolfun_ | ok. once i get pixel doubling and dspmp3 playback, ur-quan masters will be almost running at 100% speed | 14:30 |
| kender | :) great | 14:31 |
| dolfun_ | you can play it full speed now but need to disable music and 2x scaling | 14:32 |
| glas55 | ooh urquan masters | 14:32 |
| dolfun_ | yeah | 14:32 |
| dolfun_ | jku__ did the first port last year, there's a .deb for OS2005 | 14:35 |
| dolfun_ | is there a hostap mode for the 770? uqm 0.6 has netplay | 14:35 |
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| superbia | gah, this is killing me... having to install nvidia drivers every boot :S | 14:37 |
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| kender | lol | 14:38 |
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| dolfun_ | libXsp is identical | 14:44 |
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| dolfun_ | hi jku_ i got the 2x hardware scaling code in ur-quan masters | 14:46 |
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| dolfun_ | tak's fceu build works, mine dont | 15:00 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 15:08 |
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| kender | hi sbaturzio | 15:12 |
| sbaturzio | keesj: Ciao | 15:12 |
| sbaturzio | kender: ciao (oops!) ;-) | 15:13 |
| kender | hehehe | 15:13 |
| kender | :) | 15:13 |
| sbaturzio | tab completion: my worst nightmare :-) | 15:13 |
| kender | yeah, I have the same problem with others nicks too | 15:13 |
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| stone | Anyone know how to get more "sound/volume" from the N800 (earphones)? | 17:00 |
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| zuh | stone: After setting both the global volume and (possible) application volume setting to the max, the answer will be "with external amplifier" ;) | 17:51 |
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| neostrider | unique311 , are you there? | 18:37 |
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| stone | zuh: thought so, I was hoping for some magic hidden /{proc/sys} setting... | 18:38 |
| neostrider | aCiDBaSe , você esta ai? | 18:39 |
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| DIrEctQL | hey, does anyone know where i can find the kernel with ext3, smbfs, nfs? | 18:41 |
| DIrEctQL | for N800 | 18:41 |
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| einari | any ideas why zsh is jamming? | 20:28 |
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| einari | i am not able even install it correctly | 20:28 |
| einari | install scripts seem to never finish | 20:29 |
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| Moo^^^ | could it be possible to use memory card as swap memory? I hate out of memory problems. Also, how fast memory card writing is? | 20:39 |
| dragorn | yes, it's possible, go to the control panel | 20:40 |
| dragorn | no, it's not super fast. | 20:40 |
| einari | editin postrm scripts manually made it possible to remove zsh, luckily. | 20:41 |
| gwak | is the N800 reliable with 4gb sd cards ? | 20:41 |
| einari | are there any ways to get media player work correctly? it seems to jam quite regularly on longer videos | 20:41 |
| einari | i noticed there is a bug report in bugzilla but no one has provided any solution | 20:42 |
| dragorn | gwak: my understanding is yes, it is, but I don't have personal experience on it. you may need the HC kernel. I don't know where to get that, either, but I'm sure it's on the wiki. | 20:42 |
| gwak | dragorn: thanks, i will check there | 20:43 |
| b0unc3 | gwak: I use my sd 4gb card with the generic kernel | 20:47 |
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| gwak | i am googling now, and it seems i have to find cards w/o SDHC | 20:47 |
| b0unc3 | for the sdhc kernel, you need the hc kernel | 20:48 |
| b0unc3 | sdhc card* | 20:48 |
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| dolfun | "The XSPSetPixelDoubling villed a void we did not know existed, but it's *broken*, aaaaehhh!" | 21:04 |
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| dolfun | n brief the pixel doubling is something that is enabled or disabled. When it's enabled, all draws to the display (in particular with SDL SDL_Flip() and functions to update rects on screen) are doubled. This allows lower-quality graphics to be drawn partially on the screen (for example you can have high-res statusbar and low-res game area inside the game). The benefits? Speed. | 21:13 |
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| kender | hi | 21:35 |
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| dolfun | hi kender | 21:38 |
| kender | hey dolfun :D | 21:38 |
| stone | anyone know if fping is avail for the n800? | 21:39 |
| kender | no, by default, it isn't | 21:40 |
| stone | keesj: do you know if it's "ported"? | 21:40 |
| keesj | what is fping? | 21:41 |
| stone | sends ICMP ECHO_REQUEST packets to network hosts | 21:41 |
| kender | stone, yes, you can install a new busybox | 21:42 |
| kender | with those tools | 21:42 |
| stone | cool thanks | 21:42 |
| kender | but usually they are a little bit buggy | 21:42 |
| kender | and you can have n800 that doesn't boot | 21:42 |
| stone | I'm writing a "host checker" program and I was hoping to use fping to do the hard work | 21:42 |
| kender | that's why there is a complain | 21:42 |
| kender | in the bugzilla | 21:42 |
| kender | asking nokia to put ping and some other tools per default | 21:43 |
| stone | kender: ok, i will se if I can port it.. | 21:43 |
| kender | nice | 21:44 |
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| dolfun | hate to be spammy, but has anybody successfully cross compiled fceu/xmame to the 770? | 22:44 |
| neostrider | i guess so | 22:45 |
| neostrider | I saw some discussion about xmame in the lists | 22:46 |
| dolfun | the pixeldoubling isn't working when i compile it, but the binary works fine | 22:47 |
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| neostrider | dolfun , pixeldoubling still not a good thing to do... | 22:51 |
| neostrider | have you tried hedgehop ,for instance? | 22:51 |
| neostrider | great game. but if you press "home", you have to reset your device | 22:51 |
| dolfun | there's a fairly simple kludge workaround to that actually | 22:52 |
| dolfun | just write a seperate program that turns off pixeldoubling | 22:52 |
| dolfun | and run that on exit of the game | 22:53 |
| dolfun | so even if it is killed or crashes, the next started program always turns off doubling | 22:54 |
| dolfun | also there should be a way to turn it off if the game detects it is not the active app | 22:54 |
| dolfun | so yeah, the primitive implementations we've seen are not good yet :) | 22:54 |
| neostrider | kind of hard for a SDL developer to all of that | 22:55 |
| neostrider | if someone choose SDL is becouse he/she doesnt want to deal with all that stuf | 22:55 |
| dolfun | true. I do need to optimise Ur-Quan Masters though. Combat with music turned on is too slow (3-4 fps), not to mention many other parts of the game. | 22:57 |
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| kulve | what does it use for playing the music? I.e. in which format the music is? | 22:58 |
| svu | anyone managed to make video calls work? can they work behind NAT? | 22:58 |
| kulve | video calls works trhough nats | 22:58 |
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| dolfun | kulve, uqm uses ogg and .mod music | 22:59 |
| kulve | dolfun: what codec is uses for playing ogg? tremor? | 23:00 |
| kulve | s,is,it, | 23:00 |
| dolfun | yes | 23:00 |
| kulve | ok | 23:00 |
| svu | kulve, really? I sent the invitation to myself, downloaded windows client - no luck. I cannot even add n800 to the contact list :((( | 23:00 |
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| dolfun | kulve - second main optimisation will be a converter to mp3 and dsp mp3 playback | 23:01 |
| kulve | svu: you need to accept things on both ends couple of times. | 23:01 |
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| kulve | see the contacts menu on the bottom (just in case if you missed it..) | 23:01 |
| svu | kulve, ghm. I see nothing to accept on n800 side :( | 23:02 |
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| dolfun | now does integer cpu performance of n800 compare to 770? | 23:08 |
| kulve | I would guess n800 is better. It has half more MHz and maybe the armv6 does something good. If you can use it properly. | 23:09 |
| kulve | but I'm off to bed now | 23:10 |
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| svu | kulve, I see the contacts menu, I am even able to choose the contact. But when I try to connect ... "Invalid address" | 23:19 |
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| svu | the funniest thing is that new contact does not even appear in windows client. whatever number of times I press "Add contact" on the invitation web page | 23:41 |
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