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| philn|home | in which scratchbox/maemo package can i find gst dspmp3sink? already installed -base and -good plugins | 00:09 |
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| sp3000 | Nokia-N800-51:~# dpkg -S mp3 | 02:18 |
| sp3000 | libgst0.10-dsp: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstdspmp3sink.so | 02:18 |
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| b0unc3 | uhm... no more crash... good | 02:41 |
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| [mbm] | anyone know how to get detailed battery statistics? | 03:25 |
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| ntrs | hi all | 03:49 |
| ntrs | can I connect my n800 to my phone via BT PAN? | 03:50 |
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| Unique311 | hello | 03:58 |
| Unique311 | anyone place maemo on a sd card? | 03:58 |
| Unique311 | is it fast or slow... | 03:59 |
| Unique311 | or is the hack just extending the os to the sd card? | 03:59 |
| b0unc3 | Unique311: the hack just 'clone' the os to the sd, and the system (for me) is a little bit more fast | 04:00 |
| Unique311 | btw, had a couple og heneiken's, sorry bout the way the questions are put | 04:00 |
| b0unc3 | :) | 04:01 |
| Unique311 | bout to run the hack,,,i should wait till sober | 04:01 |
| Unique311 | live dangerously | 04:02 |
| ntrs | can I connect my n800 to my phone via BT PAN to access the internet?? | 04:02 |
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| b0unc3 | ntrs: I don't know what 'BT PAN' is... | 04:03 |
| b0unc3 | btw I can connect to my bt phone and go to internet .... | 04:03 |
| ntrs | the replacement for DUN in all WM5 AKU3 and WM6 PDAs and SmartPhones | 04:03 |
| ntrs | DUN (Dial-up Networking) is no longer available on the new smartphones and PDAs. | 04:04 |
| b0unc3 | dunno... | 04:04 |
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| Unique311 | b0unc3, u did the mmc clone on a clean system? | 04:11 |
| Unique311 | i read about a boot loop. | 04:12 |
| Unique311 | and it happened on a system that had apps installed on it | 04:13 |
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| Unique311 | brb | 04:20 |
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| kkito | how can i start browser with the command line, ? | 04:37 |
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| Unique311 | hchmview work on n800? | 05:01 |
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| chibiAcyd | my n800 has locked up twice today :( | 06:58 |
| dragorn | I can usually crash mine 5-10 times a day | 06:58 |
| chibiAcyd | it's only done it once before, but i noticed canola conf was running at 60% | 06:59 |
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| tigert | could be the watchdog yeah | 08:05 |
| * [mbm] wonders when the next firmware upgrade comes out | 08:08 | |
| timeless | isn't there a roadmap? | 08:09 |
| jacques | I'm anxiously awaiting the "significantly improved video performance" | 08:10 |
| * timeless is listening to ~Runaway~ | 08:10 | |
| timeless | jacques: use a laptop while you wait ;-) | 08:10 |
| * [mbm] waiting for the wifi and dsp fixes | 08:10 | |
| timeless | out of curiosity, what do you use that has video | 08:10 |
| timeless | hrm | 08:10 |
| timeless | my wifi in status bar is currently listed as full strength, no network named | 08:11 |
| jacques | I want to watch movies on mu N800 | 08:11 |
| timeless | so forget about wifi fixes | 08:11 |
| timeless | using media player? | 08:11 |
| timeless | jacques: have you used media converter ? | 08:11 |
| jacques | using anything, mplayer would be fine, but it's currently rather broken | 08:11 |
| timeless | i tried mplayer for about 2 mins yesterday | 08:12 |
| jacques | I don't want to convert my video to 400x240 or some cr*p | 08:12 |
| timeless | it looks terrible | 08:12 |
| [mbm] | mplayer mostly works, just a little slow | 08:12 |
| timeless | little? | 08:12 |
| jacques | I want full res full frame rate | 08:12 |
| timeless | it hung | 08:12 |
| timeless | it doesn't quit correctly | 08:12 |
| jacques | timeless, it did same thing to me | 08:12 |
| jacques | I had to reboot | 08:12 |
| [mbm] | framerate improves if you switch to grayscale | 08:12 |
| * timeless coughs | 08:12 | |
| timeless | you can't be serious | 08:12 |
| [mbm] | -lavdopts gray | 08:13 |
| jacques | but the main thing was dstone said on mailing list that there is currently a bottleneck in the channel to the LCD controller | 08:13 |
| jacques | such that full res can only do 15fps | 08:13 |
| timeless | it's kinda funny | 08:13 |
| jacques | he said they are "working on it" and the next release should have "significantly improved video performance" | 08:14 |
| timeless | i spoke to a guy not related to the project who worked on the video hardware years ago | 08:14 |
| timeless | there's actually acceleration support in hardware | 08:14 |
| timeless | but no driver for it | 08:14 |
| [mbm] | umm.. xvideo | 08:14 |
| [mbm] | and mplayer already uses it | 08:14 |
| jacques | the 2d/3d hardware accellerator is not used at all | 08:16 |
| [mbm] | ? | 08:18 |
| [mbm] | the powervr thing? | 08:19 |
| jacques | yeah | 08:19 |
| jacques | the one in this block diagram: http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=11990&contentId=4671 | 08:19 |
| jacques | back later | 08:24 |
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| disq | pfft. spent an hour implementing my rdesktop changes to the newest release of rdesktop. but apparently it has problems in armel using rdp v5 | 08:38 |
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| timeless | % zdump -v US/Pacific | grep 2007 | 08:52 |
| timeless | zsh: command not found: zdump | 08:52 |
| timeless | oops | 08:52 |
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| timeless | http://test.maemo.org/support/roadmap.html | 09:01 |
| timeless | is what i was looking for | 09:01 |
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| bjv | OS 2006 Edition version 3.2006.49-2? | 10:04 |
| bjv | with all patches, do 2gb cards work out of the box? | 10:04 |
| bjv | i noticed that the patches in the garage are empty and link nowhere | 10:05 |
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| [mbm] | bjv: depends on if the card is sdhc or not | 10:07 |
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| bjv | is that not an issue for mmc-mobile? | 10:08 |
| bjv | i thought those were DRM-free | 10:09 |
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| [mbm] | bjv: sdhc means high density sd .. nothing to do with drm | 10:19 |
| Akatemik | What processes get into my memory card right after inserting it? | 10:19 |
| [mbm] | er.. high capacity | 10:19 |
| Akatemik | It seems impossible to umount it at any time | 10:19 |
| bjv | well, ive got a 770, so i cant use secureDigital anyway | 10:20 |
| bjv | id be grabbing a 2gb kingston mmc-mobile | 10:20 |
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| bjv | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134119 im not seeing any sdhc, but so v3.2006.49-2 does include all the mmc patches? | 10:22 |
| bjv | there isnt a readme in the download dir, just the md5 checksums | 10:23 |
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| Akatemik | Anyone have an idea what processes to kill so I could umount the mmc? | 10:29 |
| bjv | you've hit it with an unmount -l | 10:30 |
| bjv | and done lsof on its mount point? | 10:30 |
| Akatemik | Didn't show anything, as no process actually goes inside. I suspected that maybe some app polls the media folder very frequently (maybe to show that "memory card attached" -message) | 10:31 |
| Akatemik | And still sfdisk says that it's in use :/ | 10:32 |
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| bjv | umount -l was unable to take it off? | 10:36 |
| Akatemik | Yes | 10:36 |
| Akatemik | But the device is still in use | 10:36 |
| bjv | that should slip away from "polls the media folder very frequently" | 10:36 |
| Akatemik | Indeed should | 10:37 |
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| inz | And "polling the media folder very frequently" would kill power saving | 10:44 |
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| Akatemik | Hrm. Maybe I'll just mount the mmc on my desktop and do the reformatting there... | 10:51 |
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| tigert | Akatemik: there is a media crawler process that indexes your videos for the mediaplayer | 11:22 |
| tigert | if the card has lots of videos or music etc | 11:22 |
| tigert | but it should stop after a bit | 11:22 |
| tigert | also | 11:22 |
| tigert | if you have swap enabled there | 11:22 |
| tigert | it will use it when you run a lot of apps at once | 11:22 |
| s-ndh-c | so using a swap i could open even more porn pages on my tablet? | 11:23 |
| s-ndh-c | wow have to try that | 11:23 |
| s-ndh-c | :) | 11:24 |
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| tigert | :) | 12:00 |
| tigert | of course it helps, though with the N800 there is not that much of memory shortage in the first place | 12:01 |
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| florian | good morning | 12:13 |
| keesj | Hi | 12:18 |
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| RobHu | I'm going to a talk tonight that will be between an hour or two long. Can anyone recommend any audio recording software for the N800? I have a 8GB card so storage should not be a problem. | 12:25 |
| c0ffee | i don't want to whine | 12:25 |
| c0ffee | but many of the important things (IMHO) are in the wishlist | 12:26 |
| c0ffee | whereas the roadmap is full of features | 12:27 |
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| sbaturzio | Aloha! | 12:31 |
| Eloi | jau | 12:33 |
| wumpus | what is currently the best app for playing video on the N800? the built in video player seems to hang or get out of sync quite a lot, even on specifically encoded video | 12:36 |
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| keesj | maddler: why are there only two posts on the mmppl page? | 12:57 |
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| wumpus | oooh mplayer is nice once you figure out the controls | 13:13 |
| wumpus | I get a bit of tearing but it's way faster then the built in player | 13:14 |
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| kkito | oh kde power manager doesnt run on n800, it seems that it hasnt acpi :( | 13:22 |
| suihkulokki | kkito: acpi is a x86 horror | 13:22 |
| kkito | kdebluetooth runs ok although | 13:23 |
| florian | *kde* power manager?! | 13:25 |
| kkito | and nsplugin kpart crashes when try to open flash plugins | 13:25 |
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| kkito | althought kontakt runs ok... | 13:26 |
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| kkito | and you can sync kontakt with your phone ;) | 13:26 |
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| maddler | keesj: need to check configuration about "how many posts to show" | 13:32 |
| kkito | there are any example how to play a file with gstreamer on maemo? | 13:40 |
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| zeenix | kkito: what file? | 13:47 |
| kkito | zeenix, mp3 or video file... | 13:47 |
| kkito | because all the gstreamer programs that i use fails on the n800 | 13:48 |
| zeenix | kkito: if you get gst-launch-0.10 on the device, you can then just do `gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri='PATH_TO_FILE' | 13:49 |
| zeenix | ` | 13:49 |
| kkito | zeenix, are there any packages for gst-launch? or must i to make it? | 13:50 |
| zeenix | kkito: i don't know | 13:51 |
| zeenix | but building it from sources wouldn't be hard | 13:51 |
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| neal | playbin is broken | 13:52 |
| zeenix | the name of the package should be 'gstreamer0.10-tools' | 13:52 |
| neal | gst-launch is available | 13:52 |
| neal | do an apt-ache search | 13:52 |
| zeenix | oh! yes playbin seems to be broken :( | 13:54 |
| kkito | yes gstreamer-tools package | 13:56 |
| zeenix | this one works fine: `gst-launch-0.10 gnomevfssrc location='http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/media/small/benow.mp3' ! dspmp3sink` | 13:58 |
| * inz curses gconf | 14:02 | |
| inz | why can't you have a list of pairs or a pair of lists... | 14:02 |
| kkito | zeenix, gst-launch-0.10 gnomevfssrc location='http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/media/small/benow.mp3' ! dspmp3sink | 14:04 |
| kkito | sorry | 14:04 |
| kkito | zeenix, ERROR: from element /pipeline0/dspmp3sink0: Could not open resource for reading and writing. | 14:04 |
| zeenix | kkito: could be a bug in dspmp3sink | 14:07 |
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| zeenix | kkito: DSP is very delicate, so sometimes it just needs a reboot :( | 14:08 |
| suihkulokki | delicate is such stuble way of saying buggy ;) | 14:08 |
| kkito | ehhh | 14:09 |
| kkito | then rebooting now :P | 14:09 |
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| kkito | yes after reboot runs ok | 14:11 |
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| kkito | do you know how to open/run apps like browser on the commandline/xterm? Because if i run browser.launch or similar it segfaults | 14:12 |
| inz | kkito, use maemo-summoner | 14:13 |
| inz | kkito, i.e. maemo-summoner /usr/bin/browser.launch | 14:13 |
| inz | kkito, or alternatively run /usr/bin/browser, which will use maemo-invoker | 14:13 |
| kkito | ohh yes :D thankyou | 14:14 |
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| plaes | how can one start bluetooth stack from the commandline? | 14:29 |
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| shackan | it's already started, but if you mean how to enable bluetooth, `hciconfig hci0 up` | 14:30 |
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| plaes | shackan: :D | 14:33 |
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| suihkulokki | what does expansys's "top today" mean? | 14:56 |
| suihkulokki | http://www.expansys.com/t.aspx?s=tt | 14:57 |
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| mk8 | Hi to all ... | 15:15 |
| Superbia | hi | 15:15 |
| mk8 | A question? It is possible to make screenshot on N800? | 15:16 |
| suihkulokki | no, it's physically impossible | 15:16 |
| Snelhest | mk8: theres a small app for it | 15:16 |
| Superbia | hmm I think there is a app for it on maemo.org | 15:16 |
| Snelhest | mk8: load-applet | 15:16 |
| mk8 | Hi download and installed it ... but dont seems do anythink ... I suppose to view a new application or a new applet on home view .... | 15:18 |
| Superbia | it will save screenshots to documents iirc | 15:19 |
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| mk8 | Superbia: but I not know how to start the application ... :( | 15:20 |
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| mk8 | the application name is "load-applet-run" ... v. 0.4.3-2 ... but nothing was happen on my N800 ... :( | 15:21 |
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| mk8 | I can make some mistake .... it is possible .... because I have not internet connection in my N800 I simply copy the .deb file and open from "Application Manager" ... (I don't know the english name 'cause I have the localized device) ... | 15:22 |
| Snelhest | does anyone know where i can find nmap with a front end? | 15:23 |
| Snelhest | i remember i had it before i flashed my device... | 15:23 |
| kulve | mk8: you probably need to enable the applet.. | 15:24 |
| mk8 | Ok kulve ... but in the list of applet this one is missing .... :( | 15:24 |
| mk8 | It is possbile to have compability problem, cause the application is released for N770 ....? | 15:25 |
| kulve | yes, although they *should* run.. | 15:25 |
| kulve | I made I wrapper for the osso-screenshot-tool: | 15:26 |
| kulve | http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/01/17/maemo-screen-grabber/ | 15:26 |
| kulve | but to install it, you kinda need the network.. | 15:26 |
| mk8 | Ok ... I try to use my laptop to give internet access to my n800 ... | 15:27 |
| kulve | probably not easy.. | 15:28 |
| kulve | you might need to set up an ad-hoc wlan and then set up forwarding and natting on your laptop.. | 15:29 |
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| kkito | it seems that there are changes on the trunk mplayer codebase | 15:48 |
| kkito | did somebody try it? | 15:48 |
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| jku_ | I'd like to see internet connectivity -related events in Python. and libconic (which I believe should be used in C) has no python wrappers. Can I achieve the same through D-BUS? | 15:56 |
| Superbia | anyone know anything about this mysterious "custom ruby package" used to get metasploit running on N800? it seems a little fake from what I see so far... curious if it might be true | 15:57 |
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| jku_ | According to dbus-monitor the connectivity events are there, but I have no idea what params I should give to osso_rpc.set_rpc_callback(). I'm pretty new to dbus so I'm not even sure this is possible... | 15:59 |
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| saerdnaer | where can i get this usb net/mmc config tool with is installed by default on the maemo dev root fs? | 16:22 |
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| kender | hello | 16:26 |
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| Mike | hello all | 17:00 |
| Mike | I have some questions about development on the Nokia | 17:00 |
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| Mike | would anyone be able to help me? | 17:01 |
| Mike | I have created an application in gtk | 17:02 |
| Mike | now my question is how do put it on the n800? | 17:02 |
| Mike | is there a step by step instruction on how to do this (in somewhat plain english)? | 17:02 |
| Veggen | have you created a debian package? | 17:03 |
| Veggen | ...and have you compiled it for arm? | 17:03 |
| dragorn | Mike: there is a "porting gtk to the nokia" page in the maemo wiki, I don't know how up to date it is | 17:03 |
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| Mike | ok this is what i did | 17:04 |
| Mike | I used the following command to create the debian folder | 17:06 |
| Mike | dh_make -e your.maintainer@address -f ../gentoo-0.9.12.tar.gz | 17:07 |
| Mike | gentoo was replaced for the name of my source | 17:07 |
| Mike | that is as far as i reached | 17:07 |
| dragorn | yeah that wasn't a very helpful tutorial. I gave up and used binary packaging and made the tarballs manually. | 17:09 |
| Mike | dragon: would you be able to help my | 17:11 |
| Mike | * me out | 17:11 |
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| mk8 | Hi .... I'm trying to make an USB network for my N800.... I follow this instruction ... http://maemo.org/maemowiki/UsbNetworking .. but when try to load the g_ether module driver I obtain ... Device or resource busy ... | 17:28 |
| mk8 | Anyone have the same error ... and can help me? | 17:29 |
| mk8 | sorry .... the device was WiFi connection active ... thank's ... | 17:30 |
| keesj | Mike: I think I can help , did you install scratchbox? | 17:32 |
| neal | /query #hurd | 17:37 |
| Mike | yes i did | 17:40 |
| Mike | it works in scratchbox no proble | 17:40 |
| Mike | problem | 17:40 |
| Mike | it now to move it from scratchbox to the nokia | 17:40 |
| Veggen | scp? | 17:41 |
| Veggen | and, you'll need to cross-compile, of course. | 17:41 |
| Mike | scp? | 17:43 |
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| kender | ssh copy | 17:43 |
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| kkito | if you download and compile mplayer from svn, it is now a little bit faster | 17:46 |
| kkito | for n800 | 17:47 |
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| kkito | do you know if there are any libxine packages for the n800? | 17:47 |
| keesj | maddler: are you using the arm target in the scatchbox? | 17:47 |
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| Mike | keesj: Are there any step by step instructions on how to put my application on the nokia | 17:48 |
| kender | kkito, I don't think so, but you have gstreamer that does more less the same | 17:48 |
| keesj | Mike: are you using the arm target in the scatchbox? | 17:49 |
| Mike | yes | 17:49 |
| kkito | kender, offcourse... but all the gstreamer dependent packages that i build do not run :( | 17:50 |
| kender | :_( | 17:50 |
| kkito | Mike, build the .deb or .tar.gz, copy to your sd card, and then install | 17:50 |
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| keesj | Mike: and do you have xterm/ssh installed on you tablet? | 17:50 |
| Mike | but how do i build the debian package? | 17:51 |
| Mike | yes | 17:51 |
| Mike | have both | 17:51 |
| kender | BBL | 17:51 |
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| kkito | Mike, how are you building the application | 17:51 |
| keesj | Mike: something like dh_buildpapckage -rfakeroot | 17:51 |
| kkito | ./configure make make install? | 17:51 |
| Mike | created it in gtk and source in c | 17:51 |
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| Mike | so you know where i can find this info? will this be able to be installed using the application manager? | 17:52 |
| s-ndh-c | i think there is some skeleton template | 17:53 |
| keesj | Mike: you are trying to much things at the same time | 17:53 |
| kkito | Mike, take alook at the maemo.org wiki, it is explained there | 17:53 |
| keesj | first just test your application by just coping | 17:53 |
| Mike | i couldn't find it in there | 17:53 |
| keesj | after that create a package , and install it from the command line | 17:53 |
| Mike | the code of the app works from the command line | 17:53 |
| Mike | i want to get the gui over now | 17:53 |
| Mike | and test that | 17:53 |
| Mike | once it works then integrate the code with the gui | 17:54 |
| kkito | then make a .tar.gz tar cvzfp /dest/dit/package.tar.gz files | 17:54 |
| keesj | after that setup a debain reposutory to put the package and enable you to install it using the package manager (or use the mmaemo reposiroty) | 17:54 |
| Mike | that is my plan | 17:54 |
| Mike | but what do i need in the tar file? my source code for the backend and the gui? | 17:54 |
| keesj | Mike: and why don't you answer the questions regarding just copiyng the files , what part don't you understand | 17:55 |
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| keesj | Mike: you need the generated binaries of course | 17:55 |
| Mike | ok.... | 17:55 |
| kkito | Mike, http://maemo.org/platform/docs/how-to.html | 17:55 |
| keesj | what tutorial did you try to follow? | 17:56 |
| Mike | I tested the application from the command line: WORKS | 17:56 |
| Mike | I tested gui in scratchbox: WORKS | 17:56 |
| bipolar | kkito: how goes it? :) | 17:56 |
| keesj | and how did you test that? | 17:56 |
| kkito | bipolar, the kde? I have a full kde 3.5.6 desktop on the n800... ;) | 17:56 |
| keesj | is it a "pure" gtk application , it is a maemo plugin? | 17:56 |
| kkito | plus kdepim, kdemultimedia, kdenetwork | 17:57 |
| bipolar | kkito: sweet! qt3 then? | 17:57 |
| Mike | ran the follwoing command for the gui files: dh_make -e my.maintainer@address -f ../myfiles | 17:57 |
| bipolar | kkito: have you figured out how to handle the input? | 17:57 |
| kkito | bipolar, yes | 17:57 |
| Mike | it created a debian folder with some files | 17:57 |
| bipolar | kkito: I'd love to run kontact on my n800 :) | 17:57 |
| kkito | bipolar, at this moment i am using xvkbd | 17:57 |
| Mike | thats where i am right now | 17:57 |
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| kkito | bipolar, kontact takes some time to start (10-15 seconds...) but then it is fast to use | 17:58 |
| kkito | akregator,kmail,knotes, etc etc, all is running fine | 17:58 |
| bipolar | :) | 17:59 |
| kkito | kbluetooth runs also | 17:59 |
| bipolar | kkito: thats interesting... | 17:59 |
| s-ndh-c | kkito: you did install debian(arm) right? | 18:00 |
| Mike | brb | 18:00 |
| kkito | s-ndh-c, no | 18:00 |
| s-ndh-c | so you just crosscompiled qt and all the kde stuff? | 18:00 |
| kkito | s-ndh-c, offcourse | 18:00 |
| s-ndh-c | cool | 18:00 |
| s-ndh-c | the n800 must be much afster than n770 | 18:01 |
| bill20r3 | how'd you fit a whole kde install on your n800? | 18:02 |
| bipolar | bill20r3: move the root fs to sd card | 18:02 |
| bill20r3 | ahh | 18:02 |
| mk8 | Hi ... I try to make an USB connection ... I try the http://maemo.org/maemowiki/UsbNetworking and the connection go up ... I tell go up because from N800 terminal I'm able to do an ssh connection thit external resource .... but if try to navigate with the browser I obtain an error ... | 18:04 |
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| mk8 | To create the IAP I follow this instruction ... http://maemo.org/maemowiki/DummyIAP .... | 18:05 |
| kkitokde | hello | 18:05 |
| kkitokde | im using kopete on the n800 :D | 18:06 |
| Mike | kkito | 18:06 |
| Mike | I have created the tar file now | 18:06 |
| bipolar | kkitokde: hehe... got some current screenshots? | 18:06 |
| Mike | what would the next step be to install it on the n800? | 18:06 |
| kkito | Mike then copy the tar file an sd card, and insert it on the device | 18:07 |
| Mike | ok | 18:07 |
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| kkito | and to extract tar xvzf file.tar.gz -C /path/where/do/you/want/to/extract/files | 18:07 |
| Mike | ok | 18:07 |
| kkito | dont extract to /usr | 18:08 |
| kkito | extract to /opt for example | 18:08 |
| kkito | or in your home | 18:08 |
| maddler | mk8: you have to create ad dummy ad-hoc connection... | 18:08 |
| maddler | the 770 way is not working anymore... afaik... | 18:08 |
| bill20r3 | are there any apps to take & save pictures with the N800 camera yet? | 18:09 |
| mk8 | I run this command ... "gconftool -s -t string /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/DEFAULT/type DUMMY" ... but seems not work ... :( | 18:09 |
| Mike | ok i have done that | 18:09 |
| Mike | then what is the command after that? | 18:09 |
| suihkulokki | bill20r3: malomo in garage.. | 18:09 |
| maddler | http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/maddraves/2007/02/01/of_n800_and_the_missing_dummy_iap | 18:10 |
| kkito | Mike, ? the command? if you extracted your files, you can run the binary now to test if it runs ok on the device | 18:10 |
| Mike | ok i will try that now | 18:10 |
| bipolar | does the n800 camera have a V4L module or some other non standard driver? | 18:10 |
| mk8 | ok maddler ... I try it ... | 18:10 |
| kkito | bipolar, i think that is v4l2 | 18:11 |
| kkito | but i cannot open the webcam with mplayer using v4l2 :/ | 18:11 |
| bipolar | kkito: then it should show up as a device in kopete :) | 18:11 |
| kkito | bipolar, it doesnt :( | 18:12 |
| keesj | I also think it's v4l2 | 18:12 |
| bill20r3 | thanks suihkulokki | 18:12 |
| bill20r3 | I wanted to compile camsource, but I haven't got scratchbox sorted out yet. | 18:13 |
| bill20r3 | malomo: "This project has not released any files." :-( | 18:14 |
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| Tak | svn | 18:15 |
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| bill20r3 | I'll take another look once I get scratchbox to behave. | 18:17 |
| Mike | when i try to untar the file i get Invalid gzip magic | 18:18 |
| kkito | oh the mplayer is compiled withous v4l2 support | 18:19 |
| kkito | then it is normal that i cannot get webcmam to work with it... | 18:19 |
| kkito | if it runs ok, it is possible to record videos using mencoder | 18:19 |
| bill20r3 | no idea. | 18:19 |
| kkito | if it has enough power of course... | 18:19 |
| Tak | almost certainly not realtime | 18:20 |
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| kkito | perhaps encoding with a lo cpu cost algorithm/codec | 18:20 |
| bill20r3 | I dont suppose anyone has a malomo binary? | 18:20 |
| Tak | even if it was direct dump to disk, I'm not confident you'd be able to do realtime | 18:22 |
| kkito | if it can write to the screen... it can write to a file .... | 18:24 |
| bill20r3 | but writing to the screen doesn't involve compressing it first. | 18:25 |
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| mk8 | maddler: ... Your suggestion seems to work ... only I must modify the DNS by hand ... and the connection icon blinking ... but seems to work ... | 18:25 |
| Tak | writing to files is slow and has high cpu overhead | 18:26 |
| Tak | (on the ITs) | 18:26 |
| * bill20r3 ponders a cheap gps. | 18:32 | |
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| derf | I caved and bought one. | 18:35 |
| bill20r3 | what'd you get? | 18:36 |
| bill20r3 | I should borrow one from a friend, to see if I actually use it. (which I suspect I wont) | 18:36 |
| derf | WBT-200 | 18:36 |
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| * bill20r3 looks | 18:39 | |
| bill20r3 | you've been happy with it? | 18:40 |
| derf | It hasn't arrived yet! | 18:40 |
| derf | I just ordered it yesterday. | 18:40 |
| bill20r3 | heh, let me know when it does. | 18:40 |
| bill20r3 | I really dont need a gps, I never go anywhere anyway. | 18:41 |
| bill20r3 | but I don't need a web-tablet either, and I bought one anyway. :-) | 18:41 |
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| derf | Well, I bought the N800 because I'm going to Japan next week, and needed a Japanese dictionary that was more portable than my laptop. | 18:42 |
| bill20r3 | whatever excuse you want to tell yourself is fine with me. :-) | 18:43 |
| derf | Well, those things start at like $200, and I had a developer discount for the N800, so... | 18:43 |
| derf | (I could've probably found a pocket-sized one printed on real dead trees for a lot less, but what fun would that be?) | 18:44 |
| tigert | now what are you going to use to provide the dictionary functionality? :) | 18:44 |
| bill20r3 | exactly | 18:44 |
| derf | tigert: gjiten | 18:44 |
| derf | I did the port last week. | 18:44 |
| tigert | ok | 18:44 |
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| maddler | mk8: only set the DNS in network config... should work... | 18:53 |
| mk8 | I modify the resolf.conf file and work ... only the connection icon continue to blink ... | 18:55 |
| net2 | mk8: u mean sesolv.conf | 18:58 |
| net2 | ops. resolv | 18:58 |
| mk8 | Now I have a problem with the repository ... to run a refresh of aplication catalog i must deactivate many responitory because give me an error ... in the GPG signature ... | 18:58 |
| mk8 | sorry ... resolf.conf ... yes | 18:58 |
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| mk8 | Bye to all ... | 19:20 |
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| b0unc3 | yawn | 20:14 |
| b0unc3 | uhm... need to debug idea... | 20:15 |
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| Tofi | has anybody used pulse in the blackberry to get internet over bluetooth? | 20:34 |
| dragorn | i've heard you can't, they block using it in the BB itself | 20:35 |
| dragorn | but I don't have one, so that may be incorrect | 20:35 |
| * [mbm] heard that backberries don't pair with other devices | 20:35 | |
| Tofi | I managed to use it with my mac... | 20:36 |
| Tofi | but I can't set it up in the n800 | 20:36 |
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| dyncorp | just got my 67 year old mother, who refuses to touch computers, to surf the web with the 770 today | 22:17 |
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| dyncorp | possibly an under-realized market niche | 22:18 |
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| [mbm] | don't think the tablets are to the point I could hand my grandmother a sealed box and have her set it up and use it to surf the internet .. if we're talkin about preconfigured then pretty much any computer will do | 22:34 |
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| jku_ | I'd imagine the 200+ ppi screen will go to waste with most 67 year olds -- or maybe Nokia should just include a magnifying glass in the "n800 grandma-kit" | 22:44 |
| dyncorp | the PPI isn't so much the issue (due to -+ keys) but the small size of the screen is. I wager we'll see larger inexpensive tablets someday. | 22:45 |
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| jku_ | Well, they are kind of related :) They wouldn't have used an expensive hi-ppi screen if it didn't have to be small... | 22:47 |
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| dyncorp | True, but i want to emphasize that high ppi enhances readability at all screen sizes. | 22:48 |
| jku_ | agreed, reading on the 770/n800 is really nice (whatever the text size) | 22:49 |
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| kakos | Is there any to use a bluetooth mouse on the 770? | 23:22 |
| [mbm] | there was a thread on the mailing lists about that | 23:24 |
| [mbm] | iirc it didn't work | 23:24 |
| [mbm] | check maemo-users | 23:24 |
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