IRC log of #maemo for Sunday, 2006-12-31

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x_linkwhirm: Hi !00:33
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s-ndh-cwhich sdk version should i download?i want to be able to cross-compile gtk/hildon c applications for my new nokia 77000:56
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minrahello!01:09
minraanybody know if its possible to open a link in a new window with maemo-browser (opera)?01:09
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Whizclick the link and hold it down for couple of seconds and a popup will appear?01:13
minrai try thx01:14
minrawwwwwworks! thx01:15
Whiznp :)01:19
minrayou use a bluetooth kbd whiz?01:25
minrawhen i use bt kbd i get crashes clicking and typing into textfields01:26
Whiznoup01:27
minradont see how people use these wo a kbd01:27
minrapen typing is so slow01:27
s-ndh-chm01:46
s-ndh-cis there some problem with the debian package repo?01:46
s-ndh-ci get 404 errors when doing apt-get update inside my scratchbox environment01:48
minrafrom which url01:48
s-ndh-chm seems to be with the v2.1 rootstrap only01:48
s-ndh-cif i use the 2.0 thing it works01:49
minraapt-get update should show you which url is 404ing01:49
minrathen see if that URL is alive with a browser01:50
s-ndh-cwill try that01:50
minrathe list of sources is in /etc/apt/sources.list iirc01:50
s-ndh-cbut i seem to have something wrong in my setup anyways01:51
s-ndh-ccause installing the packages doesnt work01:51
s-ndh-cdpkg exits cause iam not root01:52
minrasudo gainroot.01:52
s-ndh-cah01:52
minrabtw i have hosed my packaging also, but in a different way01:53
minrai want to port Ur-Quan Masters and T.O.M.E. to maemo01:54
minraor get someone smarter to do it for me01:54
minra:)o01:55
s-ndh-cit doesnt seem to have sudo installed01:55
s-ndh-c:)01:55
minraok i forgot i think you need to google search for maemo and "sudo gainroot"01:56
minraso you got multiboot working?01:56
minrai was too  scared to install that so far... am still on the 2.001:57
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* pahartik figures out that connecting to several IRC networks at startup causes X-chat progress bar to get in infinite loop on Maemo port, but when connecting to each manually, problem does not show up03:56
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desrt'sup, punks?05:40
desrthow do i get my icon onto the taskbar?05:43
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JaffaMorning, all11:32
* pahartik writes Bourne shell scripts to manage Bluetooth PAN related stuff mostly from Application menu11:33
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pahartikdoes Audio Player on Nokia 770 mostly use DSP for decoding MPEG ADTS AAC?14:15
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ssvbpahartik, yes, it should, there is dspaacsink gstreamer plugin on the device which is responsible for AAC audio14:31
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ssvbpahartik, here is a table with some details about media codecs: http://maemo.org/platform/docs/multimedia/multimedia_architecture.html14:32
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pahartikssvb: that is good document14:35
ssvbpahartik: yes, it is. Though it seems to be a bit outdated as Audio Player on Nokia 770 is able to play WMA audio for example, but it is not mentioned in this document14:38
ssvbit is possible to run 'gst-inspect' on the device to see the list of gstreamer plugins available14:38
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floriangood morning14:57
pahartikssvb: which package provides "gst-inspect"?15:03
ssvbpahartik: i think it was 'gstreamer-tools', but i installed it long ago, so don't remember exactly15:09
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tkoI can't believe none of the top-5 active garage projects have screenshots obviously available...15:47
* sp3000 .oO( 1. idea, 2. screenshots, 3. ???, 4. profit! )16:03
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kenderhi17:35
timelessis there a trick to finding out what a wifi connection's password is? my 770 knows it, but i don't17:41
sp3000timeless: I think you can ask with gconftool17:42
sp3000if you happen to know the magic path to the keys17:44
timelessoh sure17:45
sp3000/var/lib/gconf/system/osso/connectivity/IAP/%gconf.xml ?17:46
timelessis that human readable?17:47
sp3000somewhat iirc17:47
timelessgreat, the web browser thinks i want to read it using rss reader17:48
timelessand note of course that the rss reader or web browser don't understand that /var/..., file:///var/..., and http:///var/... aren't the same17:49
sp3000http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_connectivity_guide#WLANSettingsAppendix17:50
sp3000gconftool-2 -R / | grep wlan17:52
timelessyou know how many of those i have, right?17:53
timelessanyway, i found the key17:53
sp3000no :)17:53
kenderwhy QT doesn't run in the n770?17:55
timelessi think about 184 wifi spots :)17:56
sp3000heh17:56
timelessthat's Quicktime and not the KDE toolkit?17:56
kenderQT, the GUI C++ language17:57
timelessthat's Qt17:57
kenderok17:57
kendersorry17:57
kenderhehe17:57
kenderand... timeless, why?17:58
kenderhehe17:58
timelesswhy did they choose those spellings?17:59
sp3000http://www.karoliinasalminen.com/blog/?page_id=68 says at the bottom that it compiles, shrugs17:59
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timelessooh, i think i got the google mail app for my 9300i to work!18:00
kendertimeless, no, why no Qt apps can run in the n77018:01
timelessthe 770 doesn't ship w/ qt libs18:01
timelessbut if you grab the libs, apps should work18:01
kendergrab?18:02
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sp3000...as in what you would do to the apps before attemting to run them18:04
sp3000which would be automatic given luck and working repositories18:05
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kenderthe n770 works with the AC and without the battery?18:24
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keesjkender, when there is no battery in the device it will not boot18:43
kenderoh18:43
kenderand, you can boot it with battery, plug the AC and quit the battery?18:44
keesjI will try18:45
keesjyup, instant shutdown!18:46
kenderhehe18:48
kenderthx18:48
kendernice to know18:49
kenderso, if you lost your battery, the device, doesn't work18:49
timelessyou can use a 9500's attery18:49
kender9500 battery?18:49
kenderwhat's that?18:50
timelessit's a cell phone18:50
kenderoh18:50
timelessin the communicator series18:50
kenderyes, and NXX run's too18:50
kender6600 battery will run?18:50
timelesshow precisely do you plan to lose your battery anyway?18:51
timelessgiven that the device doesn't really do anything w/o it and given that the device *is* the charge18:52
timelessit's not like there's a SIM card behind the battery...18:52
kendermmmm....18:53
kendertimeless, I'm interested in unplugging my battery when I'm at home, I have AC near, and I don't need it18:53
kenderso, to enlarge my battery live18:54
timelessi tried that w/ a laptop once. turns out if you do that, you can lose power to the device if the plug comes out of the device18:55
timelessresulting in lose of all data18:55
kendermm...18:55
kendermy laptop can do that18:55
kenderunplug the battery and run only with the AC18:56
kenderso...why n770 don't?18:56
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keesjIt would be nice to be able to switch batteries yes19:12
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nelsonI now see why people complain about the Email client.21:14
nelsone.g. I only downloaded the headers.  Now I want to download the bodies.  How?21:15
MDKemail client must die21:15
MDKjust use webmail and save yourself a lot of hussle21:16
nelsonI want to work offline.21:17
nelsonIs there a way to delete everything?21:19
MDKmutt works pretty well with hard keys etc.21:19
nelsonIs there a way to delete everything so that my "you have new stuff" indicator on the left gets restored?21:22
nelson(I knew the email client was bad; I didn't know it was unusably bad)21:22
MDKnelson: I'd really like to help you, but I have no clue21:22
MDKI'm ashamed of the e-mail client myself21:23
nelsonThat's the problem with proprietary software:  it sucks cold wax through a straw.21:24
MDKI didn't get as far as downloading mail21:24
MDKnelson: there is a source for e-mail client21:24
MDKas it's based on sylphed, it's gpl21:24
MDKor something in the lines of that21:24
nelsonOh, really?  So there's hope?   Oh, wait, there's also Mutt.21:25
MDKI think the problem with e-mail client is just... well... that's it's crap21:25
MDKbut there is tinymail coming and things21:25
MDKso things will hopefully improve in future21:26
MDKnelson: I'm using mutt over ssh sometimes, and it works21:28
MDKthough I'm using it only for reading mail21:28
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keesjI am running gdb on the n770. but I get this error message21:53
keesjProgram terminated with signal SIGKILL, Killed.21:53
keesjThe program no longer exists.21:53
keesjdoes it mean that the program was killed by an other program?21:54
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Jaffa<plug>and there's my direct sylpheed port</plug>22:52
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keesjhave fun next year23:08
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