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| Pio | anyone happen to know how to make osso-xterm start shells as login shells? | 01:09 |
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| Pio | or is there an alternative dot-file besides .profile that will be executed if the shell is not a login shell? | 01:09 |
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| tnbt | hi | 01:38 |
| tnbt | could anybody help me with adding a system start entry for vpnc-application? | 01:38 |
| tnbt | I tried to add a *.desktop file into /etc/others/extra_application, as well as an *.service file into /usr/share/dbus-1/services/, but it still does not work and I have no idea what the heck is going wrong... | 01:39 |
| tnbt | so, help would be really appreciated :) | 01:40 |
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| MDK | tnbt: yeah, there are some tricky bits | 01:49 |
| tnbt | MDK: ok, I'm listening :) | 01:50 |
| MDK | tnbt: well, I recommend you take a look at how it's done in nflick | 01:50 |
| MDK | http://svn.mdk.am/nflick/trunk/ | 01:50 |
| MDK | in the "data" directory you'll find the service and the desktop file | 01:51 |
| tnbt | here are my files: | 01:52 |
| tnbt | Nokia770-39:~# cat /etc/others-menu/extra_applications/0200_vpn-connect.desktop | 01:53 |
| tnbt | [Desktop Entry] | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Encoding=UTF-8 | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Version=0.3.3 | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Type=Application | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Name=vpn-connect | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Exec=/usr/bin/vpn-connect.sh | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Icon=terminal | 01:53 |
| tnbt | X-Osso-Service=vpn-connect | 01:53 |
| tnbt | MimeType=application/x-executable | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Nokia770-39:~# | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Nokia770-39:~# cat /usr/share/dbus-1/services/vpn-connect.service | 01:53 |
| tnbt | [D-BUS Service] | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Name=vpn-connect | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Exec=/usr/bin/vpn-connect.sh | 01:53 |
| tnbt | Nokia770-39:~# | 01:53 |
| MDK | hmm, why /etc/ ? | 01:53 |
| MDK | for the desktop file? | 01:53 |
| tnbt | I see the entry in the system menu, but nothing happens when I click on the item | 01:53 |
| MDK | it should go into $(datadir)/applications/hildon | 01:54 |
| tnbt | when I run the script manually (/usr/bin/vpn-connect.sh) it works without problems | 01:54 |
| MDK | which will expand into /usr/share/applications/hildon | 01:54 |
| tnbt | yeah, this is just a link where all the other links are available as well | 01:54 |
| tnbt | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 Dec 29 00:15 0200_vpn-connect.desktop -> /usr/share/applications/hildon/vpn-connect.desktop | 01:55 |
| MDK | ah,ok | 01:55 |
| tnbt | files looks ok, right?! | 01:55 |
| tnbt | have no idea why it isn't working | 01:56 |
| MDK | I *think* the "exec" thing is launched via maemo launcher | 01:56 |
| tnbt | can't find any log for this as well | 01:56 |
| MDK | which expects it to be a shared binary | 01:56 |
| MDK | we use this trick to speed-up the app startup time/memory consumption | 01:57 |
| tnbt | ok, but this doesn't explain why this setup isn't working... | 01:58 |
| tnbt | could there be an issue with the dbus service name? | 01:58 |
| MDK | hmm? | 01:58 |
| MDK | maybe | 01:58 |
| tnbt | or, is there any log available? | 01:58 |
| MDK | well, you're trying to feed a shell script instead of binary | 01:59 |
| MDK | so, the maemo launcher might get confused | 01:59 |
| MDK | but this is just my wqild guess | 01:59 |
| MDK | *wild | 01:59 |
| tnbt | ah, ok | 02:00 |
| MDK | actually, I think that's the case | 02:00 |
| tnbt | wait, I can easiely test this... | 02:00 |
| MDK | btw, are you the author of vpnc for 770? I'm using it myself, nice | 02:00 |
| MDK | works cool with our vpnc nokia setup | 02:01 |
| tnbt | are you working for nokia? | 02:04 |
| MDK | yes, a lot people here do | 02:05 |
| tnbt | where? in helsinki or tampere? | 02:05 |
| tnbt | just have been onsite in tamere for a while... | 02:05 |
| tnbt | s/tamere/tampere/ | 02:05 |
| MDK | helsinki | 02:06 |
| tnbt | ah. ok. have been there beginning this year (working for redhat) | 02:07 |
| tnbt | btw, calling the binary directly doesn't help | 02:09 |
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| tnb1 | ping MDK | 02:49 |
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| jtokash | I'm not sure if anyone is interested, but I've been keeping a log of every major change I make to my 770. http://blog.tokash.org/2006/12/28/nokia-770-install-log/ | 08:26 |
| jtokash | Nothing in the log should be treated as a howto because steps could be incomplete. I'm keeping it mainly so I can diagnose problems later and it will serve as a recovery plan if anything goes horribly wrong. | 08:27 |
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| pahartik | is it possible to generate "information popup messages" from Bourne shell scripts? | 15:16 |
| inz | if you have zenity or something alike | 15:17 |
| inz | Or do you mean those little white boxes that appear in the top-right corner? | 15:18 |
| pahartik | inz: yes, like that "Updating..." or "Connected to <service>"... | 15:19 |
| inz | pahartik, dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.statusbar /com/nokia/statusbar com.nokia.statusbar.system_note_infoprint string:foobar | 15:22 |
| pahartik | inz: I managed to create "Application Menu" entries for Bourne shell scripts, and it would be useful to know if they succeeded or not... (like if "pand" got successfully connected) | 15:23 |
| pahartik | inz: all right, thank you... another mystery solved | 15:24 |
| inz | The --print-reply was left there intentionally btw, it seemed not to work without it | 15:25 |
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| pahartik | inz: it seems my Nokia 770 runs IRC client and some other software over Bluetooth connection for 1,5 days on battery... with occasional interaction... and that is pretty good | 15:30 |
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| inz | paha, afaik bt takes way less power than wlan | 15:31 |
| inz | paha, which is nice =) | 15:31 |
| pahartik | inz: sure it is | 15:34 |
| mgedmin | wow, 1.5 days | 15:35 |
| mgedmin | I'd like to be able to tell my 770 to come online by sending some bluetooth message to it | 15:36 |
| mgedmin | so that I could ssh into it without pulling it out of my pocket/backpack/wherever | 15:36 |
| pahartik | mgedmin: define "come online"? | 15:38 |
| keesj__ | you an perphas also listen to cover on / off events , this would cost less power | 15:38 |
| keesj__ | but How does the open / close cover gets detected. I can't find swichtes .That is a question I would like to see answerd! | 15:39 |
| inz | keesj, it's magi^Hnetic | 15:40 |
| mgedmin | pahartik: bring up the default internet connection | 15:42 |
| mgedmin | (if there is one; I'm happy if it does nothing if it doesn't find a wlan that's not in the known list) | 15:42 |
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| pahartik | mgedmin: use Bluetooth connection to SSH in, and then enable 802.11 network if it is really needed? | 15:44 |
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| mgedmin | that would work as well | 15:45 |
| pahartik | mgedmin: make sure that Nokia 770 is running "pand --listen" and that "bnepX" interface gets configured to have IP address after PAN connection is created... | 15:52 |
| mgedmin | that's way way ahead of my knowledge about PAN | 15:52 |
| pahartik | mgedmin: I have been using Bluetooth PAN for two years... no 802.11 experience | 15:55 |
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| waite | keesj__ , There is an internal magnetic switch right behind the buttons. Put a magnet just below the down button and you will see. | 16:22 |
| keesj__ | My room used to be full of magnets, but now I realy need one I have a wife and kids. | 16:50 |
| keesj__ | it worked with a fridge magnet! | 16:51 |
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| qgil | keesj__: you really need one magnet or one room? ;) | 16:53 |
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| keesj__ | inz: xmoto is getting there http://wiki.xmoto.free.fr/index.php?title=Image:Xmoto_0.2.5_test_sdlgfx_n770_level1.jpg | 17:19 |
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| glass | nice | 17:19 |
| keesj__ | it only needs to get 5 times faster :) the first i did port did 8 fps | 17:20 |
| keesj__ | and I need to start working on some kind of minimal user input | 17:22 |
| inz | keesj, nice! | 17:22 |
| keesj__ | thanks | 17:26 |
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| keesj__ | one thing I can't get working is a version compiled with gprof | 17:30 |
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| inz | keesj, on the device? | 17:34 |
| keesj__ | i can't compile a armel version with -pg flags | 17:35 |
| inz | ah | 17:35 |
| inz | maybe 'tis just not supported | 17:35 |
| keesj__ | I managed with other programs | 17:36 |
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| keesj__ | did not try with c++ progams I must say | 17:36 |
| kender | hello | 17:36 |
| inz | ah | 17:37 |
| keesj__ | it works on in scratchbox i386 target | 17:39 |
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| keesj__ | what does "ah" mean in this context ? | 17:56 |
| inz | It was mostly an "ack" to the "I managed with other programs" | 17:57 |
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| dottedmag | I'm looking for source of bme-dbus-proxy. Is there it? | 19:49 |
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| Pio | keesj__, wow that xmoto screenshot looks great | 20:54 |
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| Pio | i'd seen the shots on xmoto.sf.net where it was in 'ugly' mode | 20:56 |
| kender | Pierre, where? | 20:56 |
| Pio | pio? | 20:56 |
| Pio | <keesj__> inz: xmoto is getting there http://wiki.xmoto.free.fr/index.php?title=Image:Xmoto_0.2.5_test_sdlgfx_n770_level1.jpg | 20:56 |
| kender | yes | 20:56 |
| kender | hehehe | 20:56 |
| kender | thx | 20:57 |
| kender | sorry, the TAB is evil | 20:57 |
| kender | ;-) | 20:57 |
| Pio | yeah | 20:57 |
| Pio | i wish clients would just not complete in the presence of multiple possible completions.. or show a list.. | 20:57 |
| Pio | actually, xchat seems to do exactly that now | 20:57 |
| Pio | never noticed that heh | 20:57 |
| kender | hehe | 20:57 |
| kender | any place where I can find many maemo apps shots? | 20:58 |
| Pio | you've seen the application catalog right? quite a few screens on there | 20:58 |
| kender | yes, but few | 20:59 |
| kender | hehe | 20:59 |
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| kender | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=27427&postcount=5 | 21:00 |
| kender | having those apps installed | 21:00 |
| kender | how much can they fill, in memory? | 21:01 |
| kender | bye | 21:02 |
| kender | see you | 21:02 |
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| keesj__ | Poi , yes it looks great :) | 21:04 |
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| keesj | Hi ssvb | 21:35 |
| ssvb | hi keesj | 21:35 |
| keesj | still busy with mplayer? | 21:36 |
| ssvb | yes, i have some plans for further mplayer improvement, it will probably take a few more weekends | 21:38 |
| keesj | what would be a good start project to learn arm assembly? | 21:39 |
| keesj | perhaps this is a wrong question on a wrong channel | 21:40 |
| ssvb | assembly in general is good for some small simple functions which take a lot of cpu resources | 21:40 |
| keesj | so I need to create a nice fire emulator | 21:42 |
| ssvb | probably a few frames shown in a cycle can provide results that are good enough | 21:43 |
| keesj | I would be better to create something more useful:) | 21:44 |
| ssvb | keesj, by the way, do you have any experience with assembly programming on x86? | 21:57 |
| keesj | in the early dos and windows 3.1 days. i wrote an optimized bmp reader | 21:58 |
| keesj | a terminate and stay resident program. so no:) | 21:59 |
| * tko remembers 13 byte hello world | 21:59 | |
| tko | and a starfield in ~100 bytes | 21:59 |
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| ssvb | keesj, I see, learning ARM assembly should not be a problem then, it seems to be rather simple and clean :) | 22:00 |
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| ssvb | keesj, probably optimizing SDL libraries for ARM can provide some decent improvement for games | 22:02 |
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| keesj | I am quite sure of that yes. | 22:03 |
| keesj | I am currently trying the art of programming: the art of caching | 22:04 |
| keesj | but sill no luck with profiling on the device :( | 22:04 |
| ssvb | keesj, yes, it's a pity that gcc from current maemo sdk seems to be quite buggy with -pg option, it does not work for mplayer as well (you can compile executable, but it crashes on start when you try to run it) :( | 22:06 |
| keesj | That's good info! | 22:07 |
| keesj | I am still a java developer during day , so many things here are quite a challenge for me. | 22:08 |
| keesj | I will keep thinking it's me who is not understanding the software | 22:08 |
| suihkulokki | keesj: I don't think -pg is tested at all with those toolchains :| | 22:18 |
| ssvb | keesj, I think I'm going to try installing crossdev on my gentoo system eventually (I have seen some favourable comments about it) to check if it can be used to build software for maemo, mplayer is C only, so it should not have ABI problems even if built with the latest version of gcc | 22:18 |
| keesj | ssvb, it did work for me at least once the gmon file was created on the device | 22:18 |
| keesj | i use gentoo too | 22:18 |
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| keesj | I do like scratchox a lot. and the 2.0 versions sounds great | 23:00 |
| keesj | oops | 23:03 |
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