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| minra | i want to work for nokia as QA | 00:03 |
| Tak | heh | 00:03 |
| Tak | did nokia produce this build of opera, or did opera produce it at nokia's request? | 00:03 |
| minra | dunno, could well be related to mouse / scratchbox/ hildon whatever | 00:04 |
| minra | so i am the only one here on mistral who crashes opera three times an hour | 00:04 |
| minra | i swear its a talent | 00:05 |
| Tak | if I had to guess, I'd guess that it has to do with the virtual kb coming up and forcing opera to resize the view pane while it's in the process of rendering the page | 00:05 |
| minra | maybe, or possibly an interaction between that and the bluetooth kbd | 00:06 |
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| Tak | I'm on 2006 2nd release, but the only time I've crashed opera is by hitting a too-large flash page | 00:06 |
| minra | interesting | 00:06 |
| minra | do you use a BT keybd? | 00:06 |
| Tak | no | 00:06 |
| minra | amazing | 00:06 |
| Tak | although I'll probably buy my fiancee a stowaway | 00:07 |
| Tak | (she's the primary non-gaming user) | 00:07 |
| minra | heh | 00:07 |
| minra | congrats | 00:07 |
| Tak | eh? | 00:07 |
| minra | marriage etf | 00:08 |
| Tak | ah | 00:08 |
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| Tak | A chance for us to express our love in its most perfect form; a binding legal contract ;-) | 00:09 |
| minra | just bought a pair of expensive headphones and it is wonderful | 00:10 |
| minra | i prefer to love things | 00:10 |
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| ivlad | does anyone use maemo jabber client? | 00:14 |
| ivlad | does it store logs? | 00:14 |
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| Tak | too much cleanup involved in loving things | 00:14 |
| Tak | women are self-cleaning | 00:15 |
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| * pahartik experiments on using Bluetooth PAN while Maemo GUI has GPRS uplink active, and results are positive so far | 00:19 | |
| minra | Tak, i bought my 770 a few weeks ago, so afaik i only have 2.0 | 00:21 |
| Tak | ah, you haven't reflashed? | 00:22 |
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| minra | right | 00:24 |
| minra | well i did update kernel, but not the rootfs. | 00:25 |
| minra | anyway i got my order in for dsl at home | 00:25 |
| minra | right now i am freezing my ass of in a street, sitting among garbage | 00:26 |
| minra | its a funny picture but it is not productive | 00:26 |
| minra | hey mahjong is fun, im down to 6 minuties 20 seconds | 00:27 |
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| arj | evening all | 00:28 |
| arj | i need some help | 00:28 |
| arj | I can't get the r&d mode working | 00:28 |
| arj | is there a way that doesn't involve a usb cable? | 00:29 |
| Tak | heh, I made it through about half the marbles puzzles before I got side-tracked by emulation | 00:29 |
| minra | wow, marbles is hard | 00:29 |
| minra | arj dunno... do you need rnd mode? | 00:29 |
| arj | flasher comes with this extremely helpful message: | 00:29 |
| arj | Suitable USB device not found, waiting | 00:29 |
| arj | I need sudo so I guess so | 00:29 |
| Tak | arj: are you using a usb hub? | 00:29 |
| arj | no | 00:29 |
| minra | arj i got tha message a lot. i had to connect the usb, then start flasher, then turn nokia on | 00:30 |
| Tak | minra: yeah - I kept having to tap the screen every few seconds to keep the screen blanking from going off while I pondered | 00:30 |
| arj | minra: did it complain about not finding the device? | 00:30 |
| arj | I mean until you booted it | 00:30 |
| minra | yeah running flasher i got that complaint | 00:31 |
| minra | then i booted the device and it flashed | 00:31 |
| minra | but i got very frustrated and started trying things randomly | 00:31 |
| arj | it doesn't change | 00:32 |
| arj | I don't understand | 00:32 |
| arj | I have root using the ssh trick but still I have to use this usb stuff to get sudo to work? | 00:33 |
| Tak | is the device plugged in? is there an mmc card inserted? | 00:33 |
| arj | I used the card for virtual memory so I don't know if it's ok | 00:33 |
| arj | sda: Mode Sense: 0f 00 00 00 | 00:33 |
| arj | sda: assuming drive cache: write through sda: sda1 | 00:33 |
| arj | I can mount /dev/sda1 just fine | 00:34 |
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| minra | hmm | 00:40 |
| Tak | is the device plugged in? is there an mmc card inserted? | 00:41 |
| arj | yes | 00:41 |
| Tak | try unplugging it and removing the mmc before flashing | 00:41 |
| arj | if I start it up and go to control panel -> memory it says usb it plugged in | 00:41 |
| arj | if I remove it, it says that there's 64mb | 00:41 |
| Tak | not the usb, the power | 00:42 |
| arj | I just removed the power | 00:42 |
| arj | I'll try shutting it down and remove the flash | 00:42 |
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| arj | when I boot I can see a small usb icon in the corner | 00:44 |
| arj | does it use some debian specific stuff to detect the device? | 00:45 |
| arj | ach! | 00:47 |
| arj | seems there must not be a memory card in | 00:49 |
| arj | doesn't help either | 00:51 |
| minra | yes arj no memory card | 00:52 |
| arj | NOTE: The currently availiable Nokia flasher version (as of 30 March 2006) assumes that usbfs is mounted on /proc/bus/usb, but usbfs is deprecated and has been dropped on most newer Linuxes. If you find that flasher doesn't recognise that the device is connected and you have a kernel version >= 2.6.15, this is probably the issue. | 00:52 |
| arj | gg | 00:52 |
| arj | aha | 00:54 |
| arj | there is a way without USB cables | 00:54 |
| arj | (THANK GOD) | 00:54 |
| minra | i did: connect usb, start flasher, turn on 770 | 00:54 |
| minra | then the flash started, if i remember correctly | 00:54 |
| minra | sorry i dont have a pc here, i am sitting on the street | 00:54 |
| arj | lol | 00:54 |
| arj | with your nokia? | 00:54 |
| Tak | my process was identical to minra's, except I prefixed it with: make sure power cable is unplugged and mmc card is removed | 00:57 |
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| minra | over ssh? | 01:02 |
| minra | hmmmm | 01:02 |
| minra | dude, nice research | 01:02 |
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| MDK | arj: latest kernel should work with the flasher, minra is correct | 01:16 |
| MDK | 1) Remove mmc card | 01:16 |
| MDK | 2) Connect usb cable | 01:16 |
| MDK | 3) Start flasher (waiting for device) | 01:16 |
| MDK | 4) Turn off nokia | 01:17 |
| MDK | 5) Turn on nokia | 01:17 |
| MDK | should work | 01:17 |
| MDK | oh, btw | 01:17 |
| MDK | you might have wrong udev permissions or something | 01:17 |
| MDK | try as root if that doesn't work | 01:17 |
| arj | thanks MDK but it's probably something with udev | 01:18 |
| minra | i had to use kernel 16-25,not 39 | 01:18 |
| arj | I've gotten it working using the wiki guide which doens't require USB so it's all good now :-) | 01:19 |
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| minra | good fer you | 01:20 |
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| minra | i will catch up when i have dsl at home | 01:20 |
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| Anidel | hallo :) | 01:20 |
| minra | moo | 01:23 |
| arj | miaw | 01:23 |
| Anidel | miao | 01:24 |
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| minra | linus torvalds started out on a vic20 | 01:27 |
| Anidel | :) I started on a C64...it was gold compared to the vic20... | 01:28 |
| arj | I started in the sandbox writing 0's and 1's in the sand | 01:29 |
| Anidel | eheheh | 01:29 |
| minra | 20kB ram.... | 01:29 |
| minra | yeah... i was an apple II kid | 01:29 |
| Anidel | I'm always fascinated when I think that my first PC (an Intel 386sx 16Mhz..) is not even comparable to the Nokia 770 I have in my HAND now.. that PC weighted a lot! | 01:30 |
| Anidel | it had an hard drive of 20Mb... now I have a 2GB MMC and a 128Mb flash into that "toy"... | 01:31 |
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| Anidel | amazing... | 01:31 |
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| Anidel | and people think "that's nothing.. *only* 2Gb?" | 01:31 |
| minra | agree anidel | 01:36 |
| minra | i used to administer a NeXT workstation, 2O mhz cpu, 32MB ram, 200MB HD, and it ran unix and X | 01:37 |
| AD-N770 | hi all | 01:37 |
| minra | moo | 01:37 |
| JussiP | NeXT had X? I thought it had its own thing. | 01:38 |
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| AD-N770 | do you know which signal I've to connect in order to implement a contextual popup menu in a treeview ? | 01:39 |
| AD-N770 | I've implemented it following http://scentric.net/tutorial/sec-selections-context-menus.html | 01:40 |
| AD-N770 | it works on sbox, when I right click the mouse on it | 01:40 |
| AD-N770 | but when I try it in the device don't work | 01:40 |
| AD-N770 | do you know where I could find a sample code for maemo ? | 01:41 |
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| Anidel | sorry AD-N770.. I never developed for the Nokia 770 | 01:42 |
| minra | JussiP, it did use its own thing... everything was postscript | 01:42 |
| minra | but someone ported X11 to it, which i usually ran. | 01:43 |
| Anidel | NeXT changed it's name in.. Mac OS X:) | 01:43 |
| Anidel | they just changed postscript with PDF :P | 01:43 |
| minra | hahahaha yes | 01:43 |
| Anidel | :) | 01:43 |
| minra | there is truth in that | 01:44 |
| Anidel | I have never had a chance to even see a NeXT machine.. I would love to do that one day | 01:44 |
| minra | i wish i could talk more maemo ... maybe after christmas | 01:44 |
| Anidel | actulayy it is quite true.. NeXT Step was a Jobs creature | 01:45 |
| Anidel | what do you mean minra ? | 01:45 |
| Anidel | no time to play with Maemo these days ? | 01:45 |
| Anidel | going to bed.. almost one o'clock here in Italy... | 01:47 |
| * pahartik figured out what needs to be done to make Nokia 770 visible to other Bluetooth devices ("iscan enable" on "/etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf") | 01:47 | |
| Anidel | see you guys | 01:47 |
| Anidel | pahartik.. I'll try that! | 01:47 |
| arj | I'm so fucking happy. Finally got my phone working with the nokia | 01:48 |
| arj | it only took about a week ;-) | 01:48 |
| Anidel | wow.. also "name" etc.. great! | 01:49 |
| minra | it is raining on me and my 770 | 01:50 |
| Anidel | which phone was it.. come on guys.. I've got to go to bed!!! damn you :) | 01:50 |
| minra | arj, what phone? | 01:50 |
| pahartik | arj: GPRS uplink was easy for me... uplink through my Bluetooth PAN access point is not so simple | 01:51 |
| Anidel | pahartik.. I did change iscan to enabled.. still i can't see my nokia | 01:51 |
| pahartik | Anidel: did you restart Bluetooth stack? | 01:51 |
| Anidel | pahartik: I restarted the whole device | 01:52 |
| Anidel | I also read: discovto 0; | 01:53 |
| Anidel | and the comment for that is: # Discoverable timeout (0 == disabled) | 01:53 |
| pahartik | Anidel: damn that... is there still something else then? | 01:53 |
| Anidel | should I change it ? | 01:53 |
| Anidel | dunno.. I just read your claim and I tried it... | 01:54 |
| Anidel | I'll play with that tomorrow.. my girl is asking me "what's more important to you ?!?!? me or the 770??" :D | 01:54 |
| Anidel | eheheh byeeeeeeee | 01:54 |
| minra | haha | 01:55 |
| minra | cu | 01:55 |
| Anidel | eheh cu | 01:55 |
| Anidel | night | 01:55 |
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| minra | well 770 and stowaway bt kbd are quite raiin resistant | 01:56 |
| arj | minra: samsung E900 | 01:59 |
| minra | ok.. i am not going to buy cellfone now, getting dsl | 02:00 |
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| TakKia | New fceu and xmame releases at garage and extras repo | 07:56 |
| TakKia | incidentally, how does one select an autocompletion while typing with the thumbboard? | 07:58 |
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| jtokash | Hi all! I bought a 770 on Sunday and I've been using it ever since! Also, my 2GB Kingston just arrived. | 08:08 |
| jtokash | It's a 'downgrade' from my eo umpc and an 'upgrade' from my Palm TX. | 08:09 |
| glass | hellos | 08:09 |
| TakKia | hi | 08:10 |
| TakKia | welcome | 08:10 |
| jtokash | Thanks! | 08:10 |
| jtokash | The battery life is exceptional. | 08:16 |
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| jtokash | Have any of you used the kernel with the mmc speed improvement? | 08:23 |
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| TakKia | I haven't | 08:30 |
| pahartik | jtokash: congratulations :) (I got my device on monday) | 08:31 |
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| pahartik | jtokash: using it as upgrade from Handspring Visor Edge and relieves me from carrying Apple iBook G4 everywhere | 08:32 |
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| * pahartik attempts to fill 64 MiB MMC with MPEG-4 AAC content over "sshfs" on Bluetooth PAN | 08:40 | |
| jtokash | I agree, pahartik - this is a very happy medium between a pda and a laptop | 08:43 |
| pahartik | jtokash: setting things up will keep me busy for weeks, but I like it | 08:51 |
| TakKia | 2G MMC is a great investment | 08:59 |
| TakKia | I have one full of music and another of movies | 08:59 |
| jtokash | Fairly inexpensive, too. | 09:06 |
| jtokash | I'm looking at this now: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ExtendedRootFilesystem | 09:06 |
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| TakKia | night all | 09:18 |
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| pahartik | MPlayer seems to play MPEG-4 AAC content but it is not fast enough | 10:26 |
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| Anidel | morning | 10:27 |
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| Guardian | morning all | 11:06 |
| Anidel | morning Guardina | 11:06 |
| Anidel | Guardian | 11:06 |
| Anidel | morning Koen.. you're the Angstrom guy, right ? | 11:06 |
| koen | Anidel: right | 11:09 |
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| Anidel | koen:Then I have a question for you :) is Angstrom also booting on the Nokia 770 ? | 11:11 |
| koen | it should | 11:12 |
| Anidel | I will have to give it a try then... | 11:12 |
| Guardian | would an herring partition feat on a 64MB MMC ? | 11:14 |
| Anidel | Guardian: as far as I know, it won't fit in the 64Mb MMC card | 11:15 |
| Guardian | ok | 11:16 |
| Anidel | I would suggest a 512Mb MMC one to be comfortable | 11:16 |
| Guardian | well i have none atm | 11:17 |
| Guardian | i was about to give herring a try | 11:17 |
| Jaffa | Morning, all | 11:18 |
| Anidel | morning Jaffa | 11:18 |
| Anidel | Guardian: I've installed it yestarday..and you need a bigger MMC | 11:19 |
| Anidel | koen: there no image for the Nokia 770 available at the moment, is it? | 11:20 |
| koen | Anidel: right | 11:21 |
| Anidel | koen: I should prepare a small rootfs for it and start adding packages from there... | 11:21 |
| Anidel | I see.. I'll try to study it.. thanks :) | 11:21 |
| Guardian | what is angstrom ? | 11:23 |
| sxpert | 10^-10 m :D | 11:24 |
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| inz | angstrom is Ångström | 11:26 |
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| Anidel | www.angstrom-distribution.org | 11:37 |
| Anidel | going for a good neapolitan coffee :D I'll be right back. | 11:37 |
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| Guardian | anyone ever tried tomoe ? | 13:31 |
| dacc | is that japanese support for maemo? | 13:32 |
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| Guardian | i don't know if it has been ported to maemo | 13:34 |
| Guardian | just discovered the project on sourceforge | 13:34 |
| dacc | i'd be interested to know | 13:35 |
| dacc | i was looking at trying to do kanji flash cards with unicode fonts a while ago... | 13:35 |
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| dacc | what do you want to use japanese support for? | 13:41 |
| pahartik | any suggestions for MPEG-4 AAC content player? (MPlayer is too slow, plays 0,5 seconds and then pauses for 1,5 seconds) | 13:42 |
| dacc | hmm, i can play aac with the audio player | 13:42 |
| dacc | or at least, aacpro radio streams... | 13:43 |
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| pahartik | dacc: I think that Audio Player of Maemo does not understand MPEG-4 container | 13:44 |
| dacc | ooh, ok, yeah | 13:44 |
| Guardian | use a japanese handwriting input method :) | 13:45 |
| dacc | maybe it can play a raw stream, but doesn't understand the container | 13:45 |
| dacc | pahartik: maybe you can use faad to create a raw stream? | 13:45 |
| dacc | pahartik: faac -r | 13:46 |
| pahartik | dacc: I guess that would be solution for now | 13:48 |
| dacc | pahartik: a bit of a drag.., wish there was a quality rhythmbox port around | 13:48 |
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| pahartik | dacc: have you tried that "Canola" player? would that play MPEG-4 AAC content? | 13:58 |
| dacc | hmm, maybe | 13:58 |
| dacc | it won't work on my device for some reason | 13:59 |
| dacc | good bet, though | 13:59 |
| Jaffa | Canola won't play anything that won't play on the built-in players: it's a UI only. | 14:07 |
| dacc | ah, ok | 14:08 |
| pahartik | Jaffa: oh, I see | 14:08 |
| dacc | all comes down to gstreamer, i guess | 14:08 |
| * pahartik wonders about if there is something that keeps Nokia 770 hidden from other Bluetooth devices in DBUS | 14:10 | |
| * mgedmin wonders what DBUS has to do with pahartik's question | 14:11 | |
| mgedmin | the 770 is not discoverable by default | 14:11 |
| Jaffa | mgedmin: I parsed it as "I wonder if there is some message I can send by DBUS to turn on Bluetooth discoverability" | 14:11 |
| mgedmin | you can make it discoverable by using hciconfig as root | 14:11 |
| mgedmin | (IIRC) | 14:12 |
| * Jaffa thinks so too (though I couldn't get OBEX transfers then working to Windows, not tried recently though) | 14:13 | |
| pahartik | mgedmin: yes, but what makes it "pscan only" by default? | 14:15 |
| Anidel | but even if it would be discoverable.. how do you pair with it (I assume there's no UI for accepting/denying the pairing or entering the PIN) | 14:19 |
| Anidel | and after that.. I would I send stuff to it (again, no UI) | 14:19 |
| Anidel | I would assume you can do all that via CLI | 14:20 |
| mgedmin | IIRC there is UI for entering the PIN | 14:20 |
| mgedmin | when you pair a phone with your 770 | 14:20 |
| Anidel | and a simple Python-Hildon app would be quite easy to make.. assuming there's an event like "A Pairing process has been initiated from..." | 14:20 |
| mgedmin | I do not know if it would work if you initiate pairing from the other side | 14:21 |
| Anidel | mgedmin: yes, but can one recall it whenever he needs to ? | 14:21 |
| Anidel | exactly... | 14:21 |
| Anidel | I have never understood why did they do that.. (limiting the bluetooth usage) | 14:21 |
| Anidel | my cellphone does not allow the Nokia to browse it's memory.. so I cannot share data between the two | 14:22 |
| _Handful_ | pahartik: Jaffa is right, we use the maemo platform infra.. | 14:22 |
| _Handful_ | Jaffa: but jaffa, it;s not only a UI :) I can assure you that.. | 14:22 |
| _Handful_ | it has A LOT more than a UI | 14:22 |
| Anidel | A LOT more.. potential :) either :) | 14:23 |
| _Handful_ | the ui code actually is the smaller one in the whole project cause it's only 3 different screens plus a transition class :) | 14:23 |
| _Handful_ | daac is right : all come's down to gstreamer =) | 14:23 |
| Anidel | and the lack of codecs | 14:24 |
| _Handful_ | but the lack is temporary... | 14:24 |
| Anidel | (I think) | 14:24 |
| _Handful_ | that's why we are a community =) | 14:24 |
| Anidel | eheh | 14:24 |
| _Handful_ | gstreamer is the right way :) | 14:24 |
| _Handful_ | at least I believe so.. | 14:25 |
| jait | _Handful_: do you use media-server or gstreamer directly? | 14:25 |
| _Handful_ | media-server | 14:25 |
| dacc | _Handful_: any ideas on debugging canola coming up with a blank screen? e.g. no entries for photos, etc. | 14:25 |
| _Handful_ | gstreamer directly only on the desktop | 14:25 |
| _Handful_ | dacc : run it with -v -v from x-term... | 14:25 |
| dacc | _Handful_: .. only the exit and checkmark buttons | 14:25 |
| _Handful_ | tell us what happens | 14:25 |
| dacc | _Handful_: ok | 14:25 |
| _Handful_ | dacc: true? | 14:25 |
| _Handful_ | that's very weird | 14:25 |
| _Handful_ | jait: we had small problems using media-server, but in the end it fulfilled the requirements, and we are happy to use it ... and we would be even happier to help it =) | 14:26 |
| jait | Handful: yep, it's much cleaner with m-s but I don't understand why m-s restricts the supported format combinations | 14:28 |
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| _Handful_ | yeah :/ | 14:31 |
| jait | Handful: instead of narrowing down the support to a certain set, the system could give its best shot and try to play everything | 14:31 |
| _Handful_ | we were talking about implemeting a custom media server for us, to play more things ... but in the end we decided to follow it.. as the good thing about it all is the maemo platform evolving... not one application | 14:32 |
| jait | true | 14:35 |
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| inz | fun | 15:08 |
| inz | If you play complete maemodrac and let the cards "bounce", they never stop | 15:09 |
| inz | -play | 15:09 |
| inz | Well "never", if you don't press anything they won't stop | 15:09 |
| inz | And even if you do, they don't stop immediately | 15:09 |
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| kender | hello | 16:02 |
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| sigger | having trouble running ssh (client) on my 770. anyone here use it? | 17:23 |
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| sigger | well, particularly: when I run "ssh 192.168.0.9" (which is what I run on my debian PCs to ssh into that PC) it fails to confirm the password. Is there something I need to do with keygen? | 17:26 |
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| jtra | sigger: you did not specify username, that might be problem | 17:31 |
| sigger | ah, like sigger@192.168.0.9 ? | 17:31 |
| AD-N770 | yes sigger | 17:38 |
| sigger | ok, will try. thank you | 17:38 |
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| tigert | yea, you are "user" on a 770 | 18:07 |
| tigert | and ssh defaults to tge same on connections unless it is being told something else | 18:07 |
| sigger | ah. will try when I am back home. thx | 18:12 |
| Tak | I have to say, something besides user would have been more fun | 18:12 |
| sigger | also makes sense why my other machines work as I normallly login an sigger on those and the ssh host knows user sigger, but not user user. | 18:13 |
| Anidel | TaK: fun, but not really usefult..after all devices like the 770 are like cellphone.. personal | 18:14 |
| Anidel | *useful | 18:14 |
| Tak | sure, but how is "user" personal | 18:15 |
| Anidel | tak: what other name ? "user" is not visible to the real User (the end user).. so it could have been everything :) | 18:15 |
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| Tak | exactly - it could have been anything! have some fun! | 18:15 |
| Anidel | I see what you mean :) I thought you were talking about supporting more user profiles on one 770 :) | 18:16 |
| Tak | polykleitos@Nokia770 ~$ | 18:16 |
| Anidel | or at least *ask* to the User what username he would like to use | 18:16 |
| Anidel | (the very first time the 770 is turned on and configured) | 18:17 |
| ||cw | I think can always edit /etc/passwd and change the name to whatever you want, then edit /etc/group and change there too, just dont' change the UID | 18:19 |
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| Anidel | cw: well someone tried.. with no success.. if I remember well | 18:21 |
| Tak | yeah, I know user can be changed or duped, but the point is that it was bland in the first place | 18:22 |
| ||cw | there may be more places to edit the name | 18:23 |
| Tak | imo the way to go would be to create another user in /etc/passwd with the same uid, then symlink /home/user | 18:24 |
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| tko | you don't want to change the 'user' account, just consider all the places where 'user' is used instead of UID, /home/user is improperly used, etc... | 18:27 |
| * Tak coughs and looks innocent | 18:29 | |
| * Anidel smiles | 18:31 | |
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| X-Fade | Hmm even more people reporting Sardine breakage.. | 18:33 |
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| X-Fade | I wonder if there is even one person at Nokia actually using Sardine regularly :) | 18:34 |
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| Anidel | yep Sardine looks like is broken.. I got a white screen last day | 18:35 |
| tko | X-Fade, I know one :) | 18:35 |
| tko | and carlos was kicking the rest of the team to do as well :-] | 18:36 |
| Anidel | today I have a very bad connection in my lab | 18:36 |
| X-Fade | tko: A I thought they were all preparing for 'Talvipäivänseisaus'. If I typed that correctly :) | 18:37 |
| Tak | see, THAT should have been the default username | 18:38 |
| tko | X-Fade, yeah, we are, thought it's spelled 'joulu' :) | 18:38 |
| X-Fade | Hmm a lot shorter than my version :) | 18:38 |
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| X-Fade | Maybe I should upgrade the severity of that bug a bit ;) | 18:40 |
| X-Fade | Red colors always attract more attention. | 18:41 |
| Anidel | :) | 18:47 |
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| Anidel | nice answer from Carlos on maemo-developers | 18:56 |
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| Zmanu | hello | 19:00 |
| Zmanu | i follow this doc : Using the flasher utility and creating the reference root file system | 19:03 |
| Zmanu | but it write "you need the following scripts from the subversion repository installed into your working root reference file system directory" what is my working reference file system directory ? | 19:03 |
| Zmanu | an simple directory ? | 19:04 |
| Zmanu | what is the scratbox ? | 19:09 |
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| sp3000 | that doc could use a prerequisites section with links, yesh :) | 19:20 |
| Zmanu | i find scratchbox sorry for stupid question, i don't read enough | 19:20 |
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