IRC log of #maemo for Friday, 2006-11-24

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orduzhow to I completely uninstall the maemo sdk? Just rm -rf /scratchbox ?01:53
orduz(doing a full reinstall this weekend)01:54
timelessisn't there a scratchbox group?01:54
orduzyeah01:55
orduzI'll try to make a simple tutorial covering installation and starting with python for my college lug (Brazil)01:58
orduzthanks01:58
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sp3000orduz: don't forget to unmount things before rm'ing :)02:56
sp3000iow, http://www.scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-0.9.7/install/admin.html#sbuninst02:57
timelesshi sp300002:58
* timeless lost a directory :(02:58
sp3000evening02:58
sp3000er, morning02:58
timelessi have no idea where it went :(02:58
* sp3000 settles with something in between02:58
timelessmy log doesn't show me killing it, but it's gone :(02:58
sp3000:(02:58
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orduzsp3000, I uninstalled few minutes ago. They were already unmounted. Thanks02:59
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timelessok. i did a find on / as my user and it wasn't found :(03:10
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dashiadHmm..Something strange is happening me when doing apt-get install autoconf2.13 from maemo 2.1 repository...03:22
dashiadSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have03:22
dashiadrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable03:22
dashiaddistribution that some required packages have not yet been created03:22
dashiador been moved out of Incoming.03:22
timelesstrying to build minimo?03:22
dashiadNo, just setting up dev environment03:23
dashiadIt wasnt working from App manager, and now im trying from the command line.03:24
dashiadLast line says:03:24
dashiadThe following packages have unmet dependencies:03:24
dashiad  osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed03:24
dashiadE: Broken packages03:24
timelessit's probably in a different repo03:25
dashiadHmm..it's listed in the repo package list for 2.103:25
timelesswhat happens if you ask to just install that?03:26
dashiadIf i try to install autoconf-->The message i pasted:"Some packages could not be installed.This may mean that you have requested an imposible operation..."03:27
dashiad[follows]03:27
dashiadand ends like:03:28
dashiadThe following packages have unmet dependencies:03:28
dashiad  osso-app-killer: Depends: osso-bttools but it is not going to be installed03:28
dashiadE: Broken packages03:28
dashiadI have both osso-app-killer and osso-bt-tools03:28
dashiadin fact, i've just installed gcc and dependencies without problems from the same repo03:28
dashiadGreat.Automake seems to say the same thing...will try with 2.0 repo..03:29
dashiadHmm..Neither from the 2.0...03:35
dashiadBut now im getting g++ without problems from 2.1 repo..03:35
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inzmorning08:50
timelessyes08:50
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tigertmorning guys and gals09:21
timelessyes09:22
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jonekgood morning11:12
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MDKinz: ping11:24
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inzMDX, pong11:43
inzMDK even11:43
raph_aelhello11:48
jonek(from the Maemo 2.1 rel-notes) * missing source packages available: clinkc, liboil, busybox, improved sdk-themes, osso-dsp-loader, gst-plugins-*11:55
* jonek applaudes11:56
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florian_kcgood morning12:11
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|tbb|how can i force the opera browser to fullscreen(wo bar)mode13:43
mgedminuncheck View -> Show toolbar -> Full screen13:54
mgedminthen press the full screen button13:54
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jonekthe Java CDC porting guide lists a port available for Linux+ARM+TI OMAP. is that freely available?14:46
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snorkelydvertigo17:07
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Zmanuhello17:10
Zmanuis it chan for people whoi use nokia 770 ?17:10
Veggenyes.17:11
Zmanucool17:11
Zmanuso i want to buy one, and developp a program to work on house automotion and i ask myself if it's good choice17:12
Zmanuno really for house but for tv music player and other material on wifi17:13
disqi think it's a good choice but it might be a little expensive if you're planning to use it just for that17:13
Zmanuafter i want to sell service17:14
Zmanunot program but service and configuration17:14
Zmanuprogram under gpl sure :)17:14
VeggenI think people will think it's too expensive, to buy a remote for that price.17:14
Veggenmaybe.17:15
Zmanupeople i think want video projector for home17:15
Zmanuso they can give 15000 euros for video and sound, so 500 more is nothing17:15
Zmanuyou see :)17:16
glassfor niche high end, why not17:17
Zmanuso with nokia 770, i want be able to go up anbd go down screen for video projector, move up and down sound17:17
Zmanuall you do with 3 or more remote control, use only nokia 770 and have all inside17:17
Zmanuwith a cool gui17:18
glasswell17:18
Zmanumaybe use python de dev program17:18
Veggenpeople is gonna be tired of the batteries running out.17:18
glassif the backend is say a web server or something..17:18
ZmanuVeggen: yes because it's 3 hours at work, that a problem17:19
Veggenit's more like 8 if all you use it for is that, I think. but still too little. you'll need a customized stand with charger that looks cool, that people would want to use.17:19
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Zmanuisn't there a base for nokia 77017:21
Veggennot really. It's a fairly standard cell-phone-type charger.17:22
Zmanuso maybe not a good idea want to use nokia 770 for my project17:22
glassall the new nokias share the same charger17:22
Zmanuso i can do that17:23
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Zmanuso thanks for answer, i go to command my nokia 77017:31
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disq:)17:40
disqalso the 770 is too much to use just as a remote control. huge res screen, etc. what you'll need is something that can display 200x200 pixels and also pretty17:41
Zmanuis there some people who go to fosdem in bruxels17:41
Zmanuyes, but me i want to use it for me too17:42
shaprThat's a good reason to get one.17:42
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disqmake a n770 version of your software and distribute it17:42
disqalong with the real software that runs on the device of your choice (good battery life, pretty, a screen, wifi, etc)17:43
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etrunkohas anyone built cairo for the 770?19:01
etrunko(or tried to do so)19:01
koenetrunko: if you plan to try it, use cairo 1.3.419:02
etrunkokoen: yes, i'm trying ti build it,  but 1.2.6 version19:02
etrunkothe big problem is the scarebox19:02
etrunkoi don't know how to override sbox's pkg-config19:04
etrunkoi have 0.21 built and installed, but sbox does some dark magic that force me to use its 0.1519:04
etrunkocairo configure script uses some pkg-config options only present in versions >= 0.1919:06
koeniirc you only need the updated pkg.m419:07
etrunkoand where is it?19:08
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etrunkook, just overwritten /scratchbox/tools/bin/pkg-config with the one i built19:18
etrunkolets see if it works in arm toolchain19:18
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shaprI can't setup scratchbox for some reason.19:29
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|tbb|is it possible to replace the nokia splash logo which starts before the progressbar is visible20:03
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tkohttp://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_customization.html#Customizing-Startup-Sequence ?20:06
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|tbb|dunno how to get a 8bit picture with gimp :/20:35
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MDK|tbb|: image -> mode -> indexed20:43
|tbb|and then i took 256 colors ive done that allready20:43
|tbb|i saved it as png20:43
MDKdoesn't work?20:44
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|tbb|upload it to my n77k but the picture is always and only showed while i power off my device20:44
|tbb|but on the next start it wont be loaded.20:44
MDKI doesn't show when you power it on?20:44
|tbb|till i shut down my device20:44
tkomight actually be different images20:45
tkoand buggy documentation20:45
MDKnot possible, we don't have buggy documentation20:45
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MDK:>20:45
tkoI'm vaguely remembering the bootup image might be in initfs20:46
MDK|tbb|: check if there is something of interest in this folder20:46
MDKtko: yeah, I used to think so20:46
MDKheh, "scarebox"20:47
MDKhmm, does ubuntu bundle jffs2 module by default?20:49
JadestormHi folk, I've been working on porting a few misc things, mostly gtkterm at the moment, and was planning on setting up my own repository.  Thing is, I don't see any specific docs for maemo repos.  Judging from what I've seen on other repos for maemo, and comparing with debian/apt docs, it seems like maemo repos have slightly lesser requirements.  Anyone know of any 'quick start guide'?20:49
Jadestormdamn, that was longer than i expected... sorry!20:50
MDKI think there is some work happening to create a "shared" repository for people to use for mature software20:51
tkoMDK, I was instinctively going to say 'no' but according to locate they do20:51
MDKat least, there was such an idea on the ml at some point20:51
tkoI thought it was called 'extras' ..20:51
MDKtrue, is it on already?20:51
Jadestormthat's cool... not that this is really mature yet  =)20:52
tkothe repository formerly known as contrib has been there for a long time20:52
MDKI received a strange e-mail today informing me I was selected to be a maintainer of it20:52
tkothough the 'maturity' part is unclear20:52
Jadestormcongrats?  ;)20:52
tkoMDK, because you registered nflick? I'm guessing that's the "invitation" to upload stuff to the extras repo20:53
tkoferenc would know more20:53
MDKtko: could be it, that was my initial guess20:53
Jadestormhow does one 'register'20:54
MDKtko: but the e-mail/web page was explicit... - something like - "You were selected to be the maintainer of the extras repository..."20:54
MDKbut the e-mail seemed to be automated, true20:54
|tbb|could some1 take a look at http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_customization.html#Customizing-Startup-Sequence%20 about the logo replacement, first it says you can customize it under .../hildon then the say these images where locateted at anotherplace20:56
Jadestormwell, gotta go; y'all take care20:58
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|tbb|damn now the nokia logo dissapear after power on the device, and then  i get a blank white screen, might the picture is wrong20:58
|tbb|<MDK> |tbb|: check if there is something of interest in this folder, havent found a logo under the initfs folder20:59
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|TBB|has some1 xperience with the nokia navkit?22:33
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dottedmagI'm trying to find the source code for osso-plugin-datetime (to understand how to properly add back dishonestly stripped Asia/Novosibirsk timezone), but it seems that sources are not available. Am I searching at wrong places?23:05
dottedmags/osso-plugin-datetime/osso-applet-datetime/23:06
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