IRC log of #maemo-devel for Friday, 2010-05-28

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skyscraperhi11:14
skyscraperis it possible to playback the n900 mic input ( on fm transmitter?!)11:15
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tobbshi everyone13:20
tobbsI followed the chat link in the maemo wiki, because I'm currently trying to get the maemo development environment working and am facing some strange things.13:22
tobbsI set up the scratchbox and edited the sources.list file with all the repository.maemo.org lines in it, but apt-get (inside scratchbox) tells me that they are temporarily not reachable.13:23
tobbsI am working on this for the last days and this happend quite some times. is the repository not reachable that well or is it more likely that i did something i shouldn't have13:24
tobbs?13:24
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SpeedEvilThis tends to be a rather dead time of day13:35
SpeedEvilIt tends to wake up in 6 hours or so.13:35
SpeedEvilThough carry on lurking.13:35
SpeedEvilCan you reach other things - is name resolution working?13:35
tobbsyes, otherwise my internet works fine13:36
tobbsi can also surf maemo.org13:36
tobbsso the repositories are known to have these kind of problems?13:36
fralscan you do that from inside the scratchbox?13:36
tobbshow would i try that?13:37
SpeedEvilwget http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Charge_Meter13:45
SpeedEvilfor example13:45
SpeedEvilHave we ever seen anything touch the charge meter in software?13:47
tobbshm... I took a look into the /etc/resolv.conf, which apparently wasn't right. I thought it would be filled with the same stuff as the one of the system is. I did that, and then it worked.13:51
tobbs(the apt-get update)13:51
tobbswget however does not13:51
SpeedEvilOh no! You cannot read my newest magnum opus in scratchbox.13:53
SpeedEvilWoe!13:53
SpeedEvilhmm13:53
SpeedEvilI have no idea why wget would be different.13:53
Mekis /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf also configured correctly?13:54
Meksome programs use that one instead of /etc/resolv.conf13:54
tobbsthat seems to be correct from the start13:55
tobbssorry, no, it wasn't13:58
tobbsnow wget works as well13:59
tobbsthanks a lot, guys!14:00
tobbsdo you by any chance know how these resolv.conf files are created? does scratchbox create them during each startup from the one in the system or only once when it's installed?14:03
tobbsbecause the resolv.conf of my system may change over time when i connect in the university, at home, ...14:04
SpeedEvilYou could run bind or some oter DNS proxy locally14:05
tobbsso that the scratchbox would get its names from localhost?14:05
SpeedEvilyes14:06
tobbsOK, will keep that in mind.14:07
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Skyscraperhi16:22
Skyscraperdoes anyone know if its possible to have fmtx activated and headset connected at the same time? maybe a "hack"?16:22
Skyscraper?16:32
SpeedEvilThe kernel does not as I understand it prohibit it.16:37
SpeedEvilIt will probably be one of the daemons that does it.16:37
SpeedEvilIt may also be an audio routing problem.16:37
Skyscraperso its not possible?17:17
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SpeedEvilThat depends on your terms.17:26
SpeedEvilIf the hardware can do it - it's possible.17:26
SpeedEvilHow much of the infrastructure you have to rip out is a seperate question.17:26
Skyscraperhm... dont know if the hardware can do it... - and... i think.... I CANT do it17:27
SpeedEviloh - simply TX turned on while headset is in is 'easy'17:28
SpeedEvilI was meaning more complex audio routing.17:28
Skyscraperi dont need more complex audio routing... i activate gstreamer to hear the mic playback... - now i only have to turn on the fmtx while the headphone-mic is connected17:29
SpeedEvilI vauguely remember something in extras-devel17:30
Skyscraperhm17:31
Skyscraperwhere?17:31
SpeedEvilSorry - I don't recall the name17:33
SpeedEvilfmtxenabler?17:33
Skyscraperi thought thats to enable fmtx when its disabled completely by sales region17:34
SpeedEvilumm - dunno.17:36
SpeedEvilAlso - does it actually turn off - or go down to a stupidly low power?17:36
Skyscraperit turns off when connecting headphone/videocable17:37
Skyscraperhm17:44
Skyscraperhttp://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Using_Multimedia_Components/FM_Transmitter_API_Usage17:44
SpeedEvilyes - That may be true if you use the default stack.17:46
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SpeedEvilhttp://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_FM_Radio_Transmitter17:47
SpeedEvilmay or may not be of use17:47
Skyscraperlol17:48
SkyscraperIt can also receive the signal level on the tuned frequency. This enables transmitter application to scan all frequencies, checking for vacant ones, and suggesting empty frequencies to the user for selection as transmission frequencies.17:48
Skyscraperwhy that isnt implemented in maemo?17:48
SpeedEvilBecause it's not.17:51
SpeedEvilhttp://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Charge_Meter17:51
SpeedEvilnor is that17:51
Skyscraperloool?17:53
Skyscraperit has hardware without drivers for it?17:53
SpeedEvilYes.17:53
SpeedEvilthere are many bits at the edges that are like that.17:53
Skyscrapercrank?17:53
Skyscrapernice hardware, but bad software??17:54
SpeedEvilThe hardware was apparantly dropped on the software team without any real 'this is how you should use it' docs.17:55
SpeedEvilOr if there were docs, they were largely ignored.17:55
Skyscraperlol17:55
SpeedEvilThis has lead to in some cases reimplementing stuff which should be in hardware in software.17:55
SpeedEvilFor example - there is a perfectly good hardware controlled, featureful infrared controller port.17:56
SpeedEvilWhich is not used, with the IR output LED merely connected to a PWM pin.17:56
Skyscraperqtirreco17:56
SpeedEvilAnd the nasty-real-time stuff all done in software - when there is no need for this, as there is a dedicated hardware block17:57
Skyscraperhm...17:58
Skyscraperfmtxfaker installed... but fmtx says "headphones are connected"18:07
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Skyscraper;(18:11
Skyscraperanyone an idea to fix this?18:12
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Skyscraper=(18:20
SpeedEvilSorry - I've not investigated the middleware18:20
Skyscrapermaybe the author of fmtxfaker has an idea18:21
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