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| joorin | anyone up for some guessing game as to why its not possible to unpack the SDK rootstrat when its on the N900? | 00:29 |
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| joorin | "rootstrap" | 00:30 |
| joorin | tar gives up when trying to access something close to ./usr/share/<bladhiblah>/foo.gz | 00:30 |
| SpeedEvil | strace | 00:30 |
| SpeedEvil | fat issues? | 00:31 |
| joorin | kind of hard on the eyes when youre just using Xterminal on teh device and not ssh. | 00:31 |
| joorin | but strace is up there, sure. | 00:31 |
| joorin | i thought it would be easy to at least get the rootstrap onto the device... | 00:32 |
| joorin | but, silly me. | 00:32 |
| SpeedEvil | why nott ssh in? | 00:32 |
| joorin | a tad complicated network environment. | 00:32 |
| joorin | second terminal left at work so nothing to reconnect to get on teh same network segment. | 00:33 |
| joorin | my main goal is to defeat qemu in an as civil way as possible to not have to fiddle with it and compile in the best invironment. | 00:33 |
| lcuk | joorin, space will be #1 | 00:34 |
| lcuk | you have perhaps ~50mb optimistically speak | 00:34 |
| joorin | id prefer my main linux box, but, fedora and maemo dont mix... | 00:34 |
| lcuk | how large is the sdk rootstrap | 00:34 |
| joorin | lcuk, oh, hi.;) | 00:34 |
| lcuk | (considering "build-essential" has a footprint of ~80mb | 00:34 |
| joorin | lcuk, im unpacking it under MyDocs. planning to chroot to it and build away whien i get the include structure sorted out. | 00:35 |
| joorin | lcuk, ive already fiddled with it on my main box but qemu is so ugly it hurts if "cross compiling" is the goal. or im just picky. | 00:35 |
| lcuk | not at all | 00:36 |
| lcuk | best of luck | 00:36 |
| lcuk | ive gone through same | 00:36 |
| lcuk | tho i didnt try using rootstrap | 00:36 |
| joorin | the rootstrap for armel is some 38MByte tar.gz | 00:36 |
| lcuk | i just got sdk and tools repos | 00:36 |
| lcuk | and went from there | 00:36 |
| joorin | rootstrap gives me a compiler that generates binaries. from that i might be able to pull myself up by my hair (and learn something along the way). | 00:37 |
| joorin | but im not looking forward to compiling hildon, for example. | 00:38 |
| joorin | but the weekend is coming up and electricity iss cheap. | 00:38 |
| lcuk | heh | 00:38 |
| joorin | had there been an i386 actual cross compiler, much of this hadnt needed to be done. | 00:38 |
| lcuk | what else is in the rootstrap | 00:39 |
| joorin | basic system to get it running from the metal. | 00:39 |
| lcuk | yeah but linux building is more than compiler | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | joorin: mydocs is vfat | 00:39 |
| lcuk | i get basic compiler with build essential | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | it has all sorts of naming issues | 00:39 |
| joorin | speedevil, oh. ;( | 00:39 |
| lcuk | fat != problem if its a chroot | 00:39 |
| SpeedEvil | yes it is | 00:39 |
| lcuk | or rather if you put a chroot inside | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | you mean a loopback mounted chroot containing another fs | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | yes - that works | 00:40 |
| joorin | speedevil, if i unpack the bootstrap in the root, its going to be full. | 00:40 |
| lcuk | SpeedEvil, thats probably what i meant | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | joorin: /home/user is a seperate 2G partition | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | joorin: which is ext3 | 00:40 |
| joorin | oh. | 00:40 |
| lcuk | but a loopback mounted chroot containing another fs isnt so easy to remember | 00:40 |
| joorin | speedevil, so moving things up from MyDocs might actually work? | 00:41 |
| joorin | lets rephrase that, ill test it now... | 00:41 |
| joorin | and it gets further at least. | 00:44 |
| joorin | oh, n00b debian question: the file command, in which package will i find it and where should i have searched for it (or how)? | 00:45 |
| joorin | and now tar worked as intended. | 00:46 |
| joorin | speedevil, thank you. | 00:47 |
| SpeedEvil | I just backed up mydocs into /home/user - then deleted the partition, and recreated it as a 4G partition, and a 28G one in the remaining space | 00:48 |
| SpeedEvil | which I made an ext3 | 00:48 |
| joorin | speedevil, good way to use the space. | 00:50 |
| joorin | speedevil, i havent done any thinking at all about how to utilize the "drives". | 00:50 |
| joorin | but thats a very good suggestion. | 00:50 |
| SpeedEvil | I know the camera app had issues with mydocs not being a vfat - I think that's fixed - I don't know if there are other issues. | 00:51 |
| SpeedEvil | An issue for some might be that for plugging in - you can't get to the ext3fs in most cases | 00:51 |
| joorin | i dont use the camera much. | 00:51 |
| joorin | oh, not being able to mount it via USB might be a stumbling block for me, taking my icky network setup into account. | 00:52 |
| joorin | but now i have the rootstrap in place, chroot worked as intended and i can compile. i wish i had an editor too. ;) | 00:53 |
| SpeedEvil | vi is there, what more do you need | 00:53 |
| joorin | oh well, cat >> hello_world.c is fine... | 00:54 |
| joorin | speedevil, no vi in rootstrap as far as i can see. | 00:54 |
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| joorin | speedevil, but, a middle road might be suitable, leaving something like 5GByte for MyDocs as vfat and take the rest to /home/user as ext3. than its still possible to play around while having more space for real things. | 01:01 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah | 01:03 |
| joorin | and when i reread what you wrote earlier im just saying what you said. time to sleep... | 01:04 |
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| jacekowski | i have problem with hildon-input i think | 17:14 |
| jacekowski | it's sending me incorrect letters with commit event | 17:14 |
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| joorin | it seems no time zone is the right one to see frantic activity here. ;) | 20:17 |
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| joorin | ' | 21:37 |
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| dmj726_n9001 | what's the deal with clutter compared to qt3d? | 23:15 |
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