IRC log of #maemo-devel for Wednesday, 2010-01-27

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lardmanw00t: well that's the fault of the redbull, not the Vodka ;)00:06
w00tlardman: it's the fault of both, really00:07
lardmanyou were probably dreaming about cliff diving and base jumping and flying angels, etc00:07
w00tone puts me to sleep, the other kicks me whenever I do00:07
lardman:)00:07
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lardmanafter all these years, /me realises his quit message is rubbish00:29
lcukhaha00:30
lcuktook you long enough00:30
lardman:p00:31
lardman:)00:31
lcuklardman, what are you having next00:33
lcuki  dont think ive ever customized my xchat leave thing00:33
lardmanI never customised mine either00:34
lardmanjust what came with VisualIRC which is what I was using00:34
lcukahh cool00:34
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lcukso now you are on a real client00:34
lardmanyeah00:35
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lcukexcellent00:35
lardmanthough it looks horrid I must admit00:35
lardmanthough it does popup whenever anyone speaks to me which is quite useful00:35
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* w00t rubs irssi00:39
lcukhey cool00:39
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ph1lanybody knows what flasher-3.5  -b, --boot[=ARG]  realy does? it is temporarly or permanent within NOLO?00:46
ph1lmay i can overwrite init=/sbin/preinit with something else (temproarly)?00:47
ph1li meen, i would like to try by my self but i'm afraid of the consequences :-)00:48
Stskeepsit's temporary afaik00:49
Stskeepsbut don't think it works00:49
ph1lhehe, thanks Stskeeps :-)00:49
ph1lwell, then i build a custom kernel with the right init= stuff in it... then i'm on the safe side :-)00:51
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jebbaph1l: what does your custom kernel do?   (hmm, i dropped)00:52
ph1lCONFIG_CMDLINE="init=/sbin/preinit ubi.mtd=rootfs root=ubi0:rootfs rootfstype=ubifs rootflags=bulk_read,no_chk_data_crc rw console=ttyMTD,log console=tty0 snd-soc-rx51.hp_lim=42 snd-soc-tlv320aic3x.hp_dac_lim=6"00:53
ph1li'd like to overwrite init=/sbin/preinit with .... bootchart :-)00:54
ph1land i thought that "flasher-3.5  -b, --boot[=ARG]" would be the right option00:55
jebbaah cool. bootchart output would be great to see00:56
ph1ljebba, this is what i've done so far: http://imagebin.ca/view/aZNEBR6j.html00:58
jebbawow, that's rad01:00
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lcukjebba, yeah we had bootcharts for 8x0 too01:08
lcukph1l, could you keep those together perhaps, for different builds01:08
lcukwould be interesting to see the evolution01:09
lcukif any01:09
ph1llcuk, indeed this would be interesting... actually i only want to analyze the bootprocess... my final goal is to encrypt my home with encfs...01:10
lcukim interesting in seeing which parts of the filesystem are used at which points in the bootup01:10
ph1llcuk, same here :-)01:11
lcukwhich is going to be useful for yourself too01:11
lardmanph1l: will encfs work ontop of the ubifs?01:11
lcukgreat ph1l well put your research into a handy place01:11
ph1llardman: i've just build the armel-binaries for encfs... but havn't tested them yet...01:12
lardmanjust wondering about how it will operate ontop of the flash chips01:12
ph1lis there a reason why they should not work with ubifs? i meen... the fs is quiet transparent to the userspace (and fuse)01:12
lcukjebba, you know so much about linux and processes, are you linus in disguise?01:12
lardmanah, so the encfs lives in a file does it?01:14
ph1li've documented the bootchart-thing... take a look if you like: https://arch.nord.thebc.ch/wiki/index.php/N900_Installing_and_using_Bootchart01:14
lardmanencfs volume that is01:14
ph1llardman: encfs is file-level-encryption... you may determine how many files are within a certain directory but not the name or content01:15
lardman"it works on files at a time, not an entire block device" so should be ok01:15
ph1l:-)01:15
lardmansure, I thought it was an ecrypted fs; /me goes back to sleep ;)01:16
ph1land it's growing!01:16
ph1l... meens you dont have to partition (and limit yourself) the encrypted drive (or folder)01:16
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jebbalcuk: definitely not linus  ;)01:50
lcukwhat is your job?01:53
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jebbaself unemployed02:07
jebbathough i've worked for a linux company in the long past and ran an ISP02:08
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lcukjebba, ahh02:16
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kamuineed a bit of help03:08
kamuiapparnetly the error Im getting is related to QT03:09
kamuimake03:09
kamuioops03:09
kamuiaccessibleName and setAccessibleName were not declared in this scope03:13
VDVsxhard to guess that way, but basically those function/vars are not accessible in the scope that your're calling them :)03:18
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kamuiwell, the source Im trying to build fails because of that error, so I went looking to find out what it was03:25
kamuiappears to be declared in QWidget.h03:25
kamuiwhich I implicitly included in the source file03:25
kamuididn't help03:25
kamuiso I guess I dont understand why its out of scope03:25
kamuiand not developing with QT ever before isn't helping03:25
kamui:)03:26
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VDVsxah its not your own app, probably it only builds with old Qt versions03:28
VDVsxboth calls are valid for Qt 4.6, so probably is some issue in the build scripts03:32
kamuiit uses cmake, so Im really not sure what to do to fix it03:44
kamuimight be out of my league03:44
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jebbajeremiah: do you have a runscript/config for what is run on the repos? For instance how do you generate Packages.gz for extras-devel? I assume reprepro, no?07:13
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D-IivilHello everyone.11:56
D-IivilCould somebody help me out with a little problem; I just submitted a theme to extras-devel and it went fine, but it won't install correctly as it does when installing straight from .deb-file. When installing with apt-get -command it just creates folders that are in the /src -directory of the package, but it won't unpack any files in it.11:57
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StskeepsD-Iivil: how did you make the theme?12:08
w00tmorning maemo12:12
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D-IivilStskeeps, created it first with Theme Maker and then later modified the files individually.13:06
Stskeepsah13:08
Stskeepsand made it to a .deb?13:08
D-IivilActually the theme maker didn't make any debs on my machine, so I had to manually make the deb inside Ubuntu (dpkg -b themefolder)13:09
D-IivilAnd theme installs just fine from that .deb13:09
Stskeepsah13:09
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Stskeepsyou uploaded to non-free?13:09
D-IivilBut then I moved the folder structure into scratchbox and made source package with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot...13:10
D-IivilUmm.. it's supposed to be in free ones.13:10
D-IivilHere's more info about my situation: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=4230813:10
Stskeepsright, that one doesn't work13:11
Stskeepsthe source package thing13:11
Stskeepsif you want to use source package you should look into my post about it at mer-project.blogspot.com13:11
Stskeepsbasically we are waiting for SDK to be >= PR1.0.1 for this to work again13:11
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D-IivilWell.. everything seems to be inside of .tar.gz -file I upload to autobuilder, but after the autobuilder's magic tricks all the files are gone and package-size is shrinked from 6megs to 1meg.13:12
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D-IivilSomeone suggested @talk.maemo.org that I should put some Makefile inside the src-folder.13:13
D-IivilHmm... what should I seek at mer-project -site?13:16
lardmanSo who fancies hacking together a new calendar frontend?13:17
Wolfielardman: isn13:18
Wolfielardman: isn't the point of a new calendar frontend no to be a hack?13:18
lardmanwell yeah13:18
lardmanperhaps I should have said cobble together ;)13:18
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D-IivilStskeeps, do you know if the Makefile-trick is going to solve the issue? Or should I just try to upload the package again to autobuilder?13:30
Stskeepsjust upload the .deb13:44
D-IivilWhere?13:46
D-Iivil:D13:46
Stskeepsin non-free13:46
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D-IivilHmm... the extras assistant doesn't take .debs.13:47
D-IivilI shall google for uploading into non-free13:47
Stskeepsk13:47
D-IivilWiki says I should use dput -command, but it's not found in scratchbox13:48
Stskeepsapt-get install dput13:48
D-IivilOkay13:48
D-IivilWiki needs definitely an update for idiots like me :D13:48
Stskeepstheme makers really shouldn't have to resort to dput13:49
Stskeeps:P13:49
D-IivilWhere should I place the dput.cf -file? In the same folder where the .deb is located and is that also the folder where I should run this command: dput -f fremantle-extras-devel-non-free PACKAGE_VERSION_*.changes13:49
D-IivilCan you handle a couple more stupid guestions?13:57
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achipaanyone with a good idea where to put examples/docs from packages to save them from the wrath of docpurge ?16:48
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jebbaman between OBS and scratchbox/sdbmock there's no comparison. OBS is hundred miles more advanced.17:13
Rudolfjebba: what is this?17:15
Rudolfjebba: OBS ?17:15
jebbaOpensuse Build Service. They run a web build service, but also provide the software that drives it.17:16
jebbaVery polished.17:17
Rudolfwow17:17
w00tjebba: *g* lbt had a point then?17:18
lbt<grin>17:18
w00tlo lbt17:18
w00tspeak of the devil :)17:18
Rudolfjebba: but, i need migrata to OpenSuSE?17:19
lbtno17:19
jebbawhat was the point? I'm sure he's had a bunch.17:19
lbtit is distro agnostic17:19
jebbaI installed it on opensuse, but it installs on many distros.17:19
Rudolfyeah, i'm reading doc17:19
Rudolfthanks17:19
lbtthe server/service runs on opensuse17:20
lbtthere's no reason it won't run on other distros17:20
lbtit is mainly shell/perl/python although there may be some issues17:21
jebbai just installed it on opensuse because i figured that would be the best integrated.17:22
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lbt*nod*17:22
jebbaI have it working (as in "connecting") with their build service. I also installed the various server apps and they started fine, but i dont know how to get them rolling yet.17:22
jebbabecause it would be cool to compile locally and not wait for their build box.17:23
lbtyou don't need an OBS server to compile locally you know17:23
jebbai know.17:23
jebbait's just cool ;)17:23
lbtjust checking17:23
lbtcan't recall where I put the docs...17:24
Rudolfjebba: damn, so nice this OBS17:24
jebbaosc is pretty hot17:24
Rudolfjebba: i'll install a OBS server too17:24
jebbayes.17:24
lbthave you read the Mer build docs?17:24
jebbanot recently17:24
lbthttp://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build17:24
lbtmainly user-level use of OBS/osc17:25
jebbahttp://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Build/Install_OBS17:25
lbtdaemon starting :  http://pastebin.com/d6463544617:25
lbttechnically that's osc ... but users get confused at the start :)17:26
jebbaman, suse doesnt have yum or apt gah. What's equiv to apt-cache search? I don't see some of the things you have listed here: rcobsrepserver  e.g.17:27
lbtzypper in obs-api obs-server obs-utils obs-signer osc17:28
lbt}}}17:28
jebbagah, i see i have them. Your pastebin went mad.17:28
jebbaobsrepserver etc...17:28
jebbaya, i think i have all that running.17:28
jebbait is listening on a port or two on localhost.17:29
jebbaif you want access you can mail me your pubkey17:29
lbtsure17:30
jebbamoe@blagblagblag.org17:30
lbtsec, I have some configuration notes17:30
lbthttp://pastebin.com/d31e3fec317:31
jebbaI'm starting to keep notes on servers like this:17:31
jebbahttp://gitorious.org/freemoe/freemoe/trees/master/servers17:31
lbtshould put them on a public wiki17:31
jebbai started that, but a git archive of them works much better17:32
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jebbaand doesnt go stale17:32
lbtyeah - it's a mix of instruction and data17:33
lbtI like git for managing changes to config like you're doing17:33
jebbahttp://gitorious.org/freemoe/freemoe/blobs/master/servers/zooz/obs-notes17:34
lbtheh the {{{ are trac-wiki17:35
lbtalso you may find slight changes for 1.717:35
lbtwhich you should use17:35
jebbaya, i had the option of 1.6 or 1.7svn, so i chose the latter.17:35
lbtgood17:36
lbtlet me know any config/setup deltas17:36
jebbamail me your key17:36
lbtthere are new signing daemons too17:36
jebba /etc is also a git repo17:36
jebbathe signing daemon was the only one that wouldnt start, presumably because i didnt generate a key17:36
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danielwouldHey, anyone here know anything about python access to the rocker button?19:21
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blubbianyone here who could geive me some advice how to get a list of contacts in my python/QT application?22:57
lcukhermes23:03
lcuko you said qt23:03
lcukdunno23:03
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blubbi:-)23:09
fralshermes gets the contacts in python through python-evolution so doesnt matter if you are using py+qt23:14
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jebbalbt: you can ssh in to zooz.freemoe.org23:43
blubbifrals: do you know how I can interface the SMS storage? I want to send SMS via my application and store them like they would have been send via the "native" sms application23:46
fralsrtcom-eventlogger, no python api available thou afaik23:46
blubbiokay23:47
blubbiso no way to push in a SMS into the "communication"23:47
blubbiexcept interfacing it outside python23:47
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