IRC log of #maemo-bugs for Wednesday, 2010-06-30

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frals_o/19:04
andre__oy! :)19:05
andre__I'm looking for folks that can confirm one/some of the following problems: https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=6633,7920,9493,9436,9964,9691,9680,9913,10267,10245,10599,10514,10620,10555,10652,10700,10785,10179,900919:06
frals_i think what he meant in #10514 c#3 is that you should look up "current alarm tone deleted" string in the source code or something like that.. :P19:14
andre__hmm.19:16
frals_do you need another confirmation on #10245 after you confirmed it yourself? :)19:18
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andre__frals, gnarf... Probably I should update my list next time :-P nope :)19:20
frals_:)19:20
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frals_#9680 was fixed as well... your list sucks! ;-)19:24
andre__geez. :-P19:25
* andre__ expects a silent day here anyway - not much response to the bugday announcement this time19:26
frals_bah 19:25, time to go home and get some dinner i think :P19:26
andre__enjoy :)19:26
frals_hopefully sonera will let me stay online for more than 10seconds at a time, in that case ill try to test some bugs when i get home :)19:27
frals_ciao o/19:27
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andre__"Please confirm this bug as soon as possible, as the insurance company will may decide from the status of the bug".19:53
andre__heh.19:53
andre__so if anybody feels to click "NEW" on 10835 you might make a person happy. however that's not how things work... :-P19:53
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PawniHi20:02
Pawniusgin scratchbox I run: "fakeroot apt-get update" W: GPG error: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release: Couldn't access keyring: 'No such file or directory'20:03
Pawnianyone know if this is serious or should I do something about it?20:03
Pawnican't find much info with google, still trying20:03
Pawniand by the way I'm using ubuntu 9.10 if that helps :)20:03
Pawninew to linux and everything20:03
andre__hi Pawni20:06
andre__best to ask in #maemo as this channel is about managing bug reports in maemo20:06
Pawniahh20:06
andre__but not a general support channel20:06
Pawniokey, sorry :) thanks for pointing out the direction20:06
andre__no problem :)20:06
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jukeyhi :)20:13
jukey/me wonders if the conversions plugin for IRC is working or not...20:14
fralsseems to be working, except for /me ;)20:17
jukeynice! thank you :)20:18
andre__hah20:22
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karstenb|busyhey guys :)20:45
andre__oy20:47
jukeydo you have any news regarding this topic: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=724513#post72451320:53
jukeyIt's not easy to bring apps into extras these days...20:54
jukeyis there a place i can try to give bugs like this one more priority?20:56
andre__you could talk to X-Fade about it20:57
jukeyI'll contact him. Thanks andre20:57
andre__don't know how his workload is though20:59
andre__he just got back from vacations20:59
jukeyyeah I'll see21:00
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andre__(reposting) I'm looking for any brave folks that can confirm (or not confirm) some of the following problems: https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=6633,7920,9493,9436,9691,9913,10267,10599,10514,10620,10652,10700,10785,10179,900921:17
* andre__ wonders if all people try out MeeGo instead21:21
* karstenb|busy takes a stab at 969121:22
wolf^andre__, is it even usable?21:22
andre__wolf^, haven't tried yet21:23
andre__tempted to try when I'm back from holidays in a week though. plus finally daily public builds (at least for core)21:23
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wolf^andre__, 10514 not repro21:26
andre__wolf^, thanks. I think I'll simply close as WORKSFORME then as three people couldn't reproduce...21:28
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andre__I dislike serious bugs like https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10614 that miss good reproduction steps (which kind of blocks getting a developer looking at them).21:37
povbotBug 10614: Message database corruption21:37
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wolf^andre__, I think bug 10279 is fixed on git21:41
povbotBug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10279 Holding phone in portrait orientation doesn't enable phone menu21:41
wolf^http://maemo.gitorious.org/fremantle-hildon-desktop/hildon-desktop/commit/e8fbd49d92e652f39fd8b7a9a1772f4b6572fd5b21:41
wolf^(or not, nokia commit messages are crap)21:42
andre__MohammadAG51: you really want to try triaging on an N900? I can tell you that it takes ages, done that a few times ;-)21:42
MohammadAG51haha, 60WPM, i'll manage xP21:42
andre__wolf^, it's definitely fixed in the repo. However that does NOT necessarily mean that it will be in a future Maemo5 release. Think of funny managers that decide which fixes go into a public release and which won't.21:43
andre__...that's why I'm still waiting to close it as fixed.21:43
andre__as there's been no *integration* yet.21:44
karstenb|busycannot reproduce bug 969121:44
povbotBug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9691 Incoming call ring tone volume increases at the end of a missed call.21:44
andre__karstenb|busy, feel free to close as WORKSFORME as I didn't succeed either...21:44
wolf^andre__, I'd be amused, but I was exposed to dilbert21:45
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karstenb|busyandre__: Now you tell me, after I commented. ;)21:45
andre__karstenb|busy, I know you like bugmail. the more the better, right? ;-)21:45
karstenb|busyI'll keep it open for now, since I asked some questions for clarification.21:45
andre__ah, k21:46
karstenb|busyWill close, if that doesn't help either.21:46
andre__wolf^: I just hope that such very weird management practices (to use euphemistic terms) become way less by the MeeGo move21:46
andre__wolf^, you know, "regressions could be introduced, hence we're careful what we let in." my guess: probably bad experience with former (delayed?) releases21:47
wolf^andre__, regressions21:47
wolf^andre__, they were very happy to make regression concerning rds21:48
andre__well, in that specific case it was more like "sticking to the spec for PR1.2 which was ignored for PR1.1" I think21:48
wolf^andre__, I don't understand why there can't be some option in the fm transmitter setup, so that both the majority of rds users and the minority that is technically correct would be happy21:48
andre__but I'm not an RDS specialist, just writing what I think I remember21:49
andre__wolf^, I agree. And I could come up with a dozen more of such weird things that shouldn't be hard to fix. Yeah, that's Nokia sometimes...21:49
wolf^andre__, any comments regarding bugs 10283, 9731, 9705?21:50
wolf^the rss reader one is extremely annoying21:51
andre__wolf^: and exactly at this moment I just got another "Sounds risky to change it at this point" internal bugmail...  ;-/21:52
wolf^risky, srisky21:52
wolf^make a repo with "experimental" packages and let people add it themselves21:52
wolf^problem solved21:52
andre__wolf^: Querying in bugs.maemo.org for RSS feed reader bugs that changed STATUS to RESOLVED within the last 180 days I found two tickets.21:54
andre__or in a more frankly way: I haven't seen much progress on RSS feed reader bugs lately.21:54
andre__fix for 10283 is on the way.21:55
andre__9731: no internal comments at all on it.21:55
andre__wolf^, repo with exp packages: Totally agree. Now if somebody could explain the advantages to the Nokia managers please...?21:57
andre__There is http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/undelayed_bugfix_releases_for_nokia_open_source_packages-002/21:57
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andre900grumble. where did my wifi internet connection go...?22:32
andre900can anybody reproduce bug 10751?22:32
povbotBug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10751 Switching songs quickly and backpedaling causes unwanted behavior22:32
MohammadAG51bah, low signal, back22:34
andre900at least you *have* a signal ;-)22:35
MohammadAG511 bar22:35
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jukeyHeyho I'll be back22:42
andre900heja22:42
jukeythe connection dies in a cellular black hole near Berlin :)22:42
andre900we call it "Potsdam" ;-)22:43
karstenb|busyouch ;)22:43
jukeybtw. berlin... is someone there at 2010-06-17?22:43
andre900just pass the time machine and i can try22:44
karstenb|busythat's about 2 weeks ago...22:44
jukey:D22:44
jukeyexactly I mean: Friday 16.07.22:45
jukey2010-07-1622:45
jukeywe plan to have a little user/devloper/everybody who is interested in - session in the c-base22:45
andre900oh cool22:45
andre900I could go there inkognito again, just as last time :-P22:45
jukeyIt should be the beginning of a session serie22:46
andre900though i probably wont be there that weekend22:46
karstenb|busyCool indeed. But I'm afraid I can't make it.22:46
jukeyhehe22:46
andre900but maybe nokia qt and openismus folks could be interested22:46
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karstenb|busyYeah, expose our trainees to real people. That'll be fun. ;)22:47
andre__internet! yay! :-P22:47
jukeyI would like to prepare a little speech about bugsquad, testingsquad, and things like that...22:47
andre__talking to real users is helpful. it should become mandatory for some nokians...22:47
karstenb|busyhehe22:47
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karstenb|busyjukey: If you're interested in having some of the Openismus crew there, feel free to hit me a mail.22:48
jukeyIt would be great if you could make some advertising to your contacts in berlin :D22:48
karstenb|busySummary, abstract, informal note or whatever. I'll pass it on.22:48
jukeywell to know, karsten22:49
jukeyi come back to you :)22:49
karstenb|busyGot my address, I suppose?22:49
jukeyI'll find out22:51
jukeyandre's at least and he can give me yours22:51
karstenb|busykarstenb@openismus.com22:51
jukey:D22:51
andre__aklapper@ same22:51
jukeythanks22:52
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Kowalczykhmm. Watching this video: at 5:58 he has his IP wlan0 192.168.1.4 on his desktop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6zNfBczub8&feature=PlayList&p=0C65179719B2951F&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=6 how to do that? is that conky or so?22:52
karstenb|busyAndre's supposed to be on holidays next week... ;)22:52
jukeyHolydays? wow... I expected that a bugmaster _never_ is on holydays! ;)22:53
andre__jukey, actually university exam... so "holidays" is an euphemistic term for it :-P22:53
karstenb|busyI said *supposed* to be... ;-)22:53
jukeyhrhr22:54
Kowalczykor is it another way to get that on the desktip?22:54
Kowalczykdesktop*22:54
andre__Kowalczyk, http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/personal-ip-address/ ?22:55
karstenb|busyhomeip-something?22:55
Kowalczykoh :) thanks :)22:55
karstenb|busyThere are bunch of tiny widgets on maemo.org, all specialized to display bits of useful info like IP or something.22:56
andre__can anybody reproduce https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 ? I'd be surprised if so22:59
povbotBug 10837: X terminal freezes, and phone doesn't react when ":" pressed on vi22:59
karstenb|busyKowalczyk: Indeed, andre__ is spot on, that is "Personal IP Address".22:59
jukeyI have to leave again, thanks for your feedback karsten and andre. and have a nice holiday, andre!23:00
mikhashi23:00
andre__jukey, ciao & thanks23:00
jukeybye bye23:00
karstenb|busyjukey: Remember to hit me that mail. :)23:00
jukeyyeah :)23:00
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karstenb|busyThere also is "homeip"...23:02
Kowalczykyes it was:) thanks :)23:04
karstenb|busyerr23:07
karstenb|busyNow the device is stuck in editing desktop mode.23:07
karstenb|busykillall hildon-desktop cured it... *sigh*23:08
* karstenb|busy removes homeip again, couldn't even find it23:09
mikhasandre, cannot reproduce, got same version as reporter23:11
karstenb|busyKowalczyk: Btw, if you like that, you might also like... "Desktop Command Execution Widget" is a multi-purpose widget displaying results of custom shell commands.23:12
MohammadAG51closed bug 10837 after testing it on two devices23:12
povbotBug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 X terminal freezes, and phone doesn't react when ":" pressed on vi23:12
andre__what karstenb|busy meant was "76% of the users that bought foo also bought bar". :-P23:12
andre__MohammadAG51, thanks!23:12
karstenb|busy:-D23:13
karstenb|busyHey, *I* like that widget. :)23:14
mikhashey, what is this "format for printing" link? nice!23:15
andre__mikhas, you don't tell me that you plan to print bug reports on paper, do you? :)23:18
mikhasbut ... how else to reproduce but by printing and photocopying?23:19
* karstenb|busy cries23:21
karstenb|busyok, that was a good one :)23:21
karstenb|busymikhas: but, you know, there is that handy "number of copies" in the print dialog, right?23:21
mikhasoooooh23:22
mikhasand all those years ...23:22
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rlinfatihi, when i'm lisen a mp3 and e-mail is incoming the music is paused ( or muted ) by 2 second to reproduce the sound alert of new mail..... is a bug or a feature ?23:59

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