IRC log of #maemo-bugs for Sunday, 2010-01-10

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andre__words i dislike: "data loss". hmm.01:44
timeless_mbpandre__: you don't like bug 7795?01:49
andre__i don't like what happened.01:49
andre__i do like that several people realized.01:49
timeless_mbpwell, i know i spotted it, and i know sp3000 spotted it01:50
timeless_mbpwho else did? :)01:50
andre__alberto garcia01:51
andre__I was just confused that I had "forgotten" to set some Aliases.01:51
andre__was too stupid to check bugmail to see that I did do...01:51
andre__and Emanuele Cassioli also ran into sendmail.pm issues and sent an email01:51
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GAN90051-1 isn't seeing UPnP shares. :<03:53
timeless_mbpodd03:56
timeless_mbpi've encountered UPnP shares randomly03:56
timeless_mbpincluding in .uk03:56
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Milhouseeugh... what's happened to bug 6828, it's lost the last 4-5 comments (and resolution)05:14
Milhouseit's as if someone restored the database.05:14
MilhouseIt seems that modifications to bug reports (from Friday afternoon onwards) are no longer present. anyone know what has happened? bug 2747 has lost comment #24, bug 7232 is missing comment #5 etc.05:20
Milhousedefinately looks like the database has rolled back05:20
GeneralAntillesSee -community.05:22
Milhouseweb?05:23
Milhousenot sure where i'm supposed to be looking - what's "-community"? can't find anything relevant in the Community section on m.o./community05:26
Milhouseoh hold on...05:26
GeneralAntillesmaemo-community05:26
Milhousenew server?05:26
GeneralAntillesThe mailing list. :P05:26
Milhousebit confused... either we've lost data, or i'm connecting to the old server05:28
GeneralAntillesLost data, I think.05:37
Milhouseyeah, just reading andres email - unbelievable05:37
Milhousewhat a pain in the arse05:37
GeneralAntillesIndeed05:40
GeneralAntillesWonder what happened.05:40
Milhouserestored the wrong backup05:40
Milhousewould be my guess05:40
Milhouseassuming the right backup is actually available i'd recommend shutting down b.m.o until it can be restored05:43
GeneralAntillesToo late05:43
Milhouseotherwise it just compounds the problem05:43
Milhouseoh05:43
Milhousewell05:43
Milhousenever mind :)05:43
GeneralAntillesMore activity has been since than the initial datalose.05:43
Milhousealthough surely the new data loss would be less than we have lost already?05:44
Milhousenot ideal, i know05:44
Milhouselesser of two evils though05:44
GeneralAntillesNot at this point, no.05:44
Milhousehow much activity could we lose on a saturday night/sunday morning?05:45
Milhousewe've lost all activity since friday afternoon as it stands05:45
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lmaanyone know what's happenning with bugzilla?14:42
lmathe db seems to have been rolled back to an earlier version at least twice in the last couple of days14:43
timeless_mbplma: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7795 used to cover that15:01
povbot`Bug 7795: was not found.15:01
timeless_mbpbut well... oops :)15:02
timeless_mbpscrollback suggests "see -community"15:02
lmaNothing definitive in -community in today's digest at least, just wondering if anyone knows what's causing it and if it's likely to happen again today.  Basically, should I bother working in bugzilla or not?15:03
timeless_mbptoday? i'd go outside and enjoy the snow15:04
timeless_mbpif you want to work in bugzilla, make sure you've enabled *all* mail15:04
timeless_mbpand make sure you're cc'd or something to anything you touch15:04
timeless_mbpthat way you can at least copy it from your mailbox15:04
lmaThanks15:05
timeless_mbpoh, and if you make an attachment to bugzilla, keep a local copy :)15:05
timeless_mbpand if someone else makes one, save your own copy :)15:05
timeless_mbpthis is fwiw *not* bugzilla's fault15:05
timeless_mbpit can't protect against someone installing the wrong database15:05
lmaoh sure, I get that15:05
timeless_mbpi got an accusatory email from someone...15:07
timeless_mbphe accused me of deleting his comments and bugs15:07
timeless_mbp...15:07
lmaI think we'll see a lot of that unfortunately :-(15:08
timeless_mbpon the bright side, it means people use bugzilla15:10
timeless_mbpeven on weekends15:10
timeless_mbpand they expect it to be reliable :)15:10
timeless_mbp~always look on the bright side of life~15:10
lmaOh well, I'll get on with other things in the meantime...  bye!15:19
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Milhousethe problem is i've only got bugmail for other peoples changes and not my own, and frankly can't be arsed to re-enter my reports from memory16:47
Milhousei said previously that b.m.o should be disabled or made read-only until someone decides what to do - i'd have thought restoring from the correct backup would be the right thing to do, leaving it open for more updates just compounds the problem.16:48
Milhousein the meantime i'm leaving it well alone just in case they restore the db16:49
VDVsxhumm, bmo still has problems ?17:23
VDVsxups, just updated a couple of bugs :(17:24
VDVsxat least are in my apps17:24
fralssomeone could probably close https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7787 as duplicate of https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712718:47
povbot`Bug 7787: lack of way to disable emoticons in chat view18:47
povbot`Bug 7127: Add option to disable smiley icons in conversations18:47
VDVsxfrals, was already done by the reporter18:49
fralsawesome :)18:49
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GeneralAntillesWait, we lost MORE data?21:41
GeneralAntillesAwesome. . . .21:41
GeneralAntillesWhat is going on over there?21:41
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