IRC log of #maemo-bugs for Friday, 2009-12-11

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awbenhi all15:40
awbenanyone here?15:41
awbeni ve got a problem with my calendar15:41
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jebbaawben: ya, people here, but maybe some delay.  There may be more people in #maemo that are "live"16:10
awbenhmm16:10
awbenok... i thought i would be better 2 go in the  "bugs" channel16:11
jebbait's maybe more the "bugzilla" channel, but either way.16:11
awbenok16:11
awbeni ll change the channel and search for someone who can help me.. maybe :-)16:12
jebbahundreds of people over in #maemo16:12
jebba(of course, feel free to ask here too)16:12
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GeneralAntillesawben, bugs is not a support channel.16:44
VDVsxNokia care is :P16:45
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jebbaVDVsx, GeneralAntilles, ya, probably need to clarify the purpose of the channel in /topic for noobs or we're just going to be repeating that all the time, methinks (and probably still will need to, but maybe 50% less heh)18:29
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andre__"management of bugzilla" maybe, or something like that...19:04
andre__same issue in the GNOME channel from time to time... "hey, I have a bug here!" :-)19:04
jebbawhich could be ok, if it was a real bug report and htey were too lazy to setup bz acct etc.19:06
jebbabut that will be like 2% of cases...19:06
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andre__yeah19:30
andre__of course I'm also willing to help users here :-P19:30
newdayrandom reboots, anybody experience it ?19:34
andre__newday, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6334#c18419:47
povbotBug 6334: random reboots19:47
jebbai had my first one this morning.19:49
andre__I still have not had them. Darn. Need more devices, preferably broken ones :-P19:49
newdayyep i read bug 6334 thread / only one guy from nokia and no answers ........ :)19:53
VDVsxnever had a reboot with w4219:58
VDVsxgot some with prev images, but that's normal19:58
andre__newday, well, because Nokia is also still investigating20:01
newdaytill then all users with this bug needs to suffer, wrong approach to customer in my opinion20:04
jebbaat the time i had just received (and ignored) a couple jabber messages from 2 people and 3 SMS messages from the same person.  the fone had been recharging all night. No clue if this is useful info. I haven't rebooted my fone since the restart if there is anything you want me to look for.20:05
andre__newday, they have to suffer anyway as Nokia only pushes public updates from time to time. If a Nokian comments or not does not make any difference in this specific case.20:06
andre__also see http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/undelayed_bugfix_releases_for_nokia_open_source_packages-002/20:07
VDVsxall my phones suffered reboots from time to time, the thing here is how often the reboots occur20:07
newdayruffly 3 times every 10 min20:09
andre__uargh. :-(20:11
andre__problems is, of course I push them to get a fix out. but of course they have to test the fix really well too :-/20:12
VDVsxnewday, did you tried to reflash ?20:13
newdayit's really firmware problem if great majority of users don't experience this reboots20:13
andre__heh. or hardware :-P20:14
VDVsxcan be a bad factory flash20:14
andre__but some Nokians have the same problems with their devices too.20:14
newdayi did reflash via NSU twice and once by flasher 3.5 flashing firmware and eMMC content20:14
VDVsxI've seen similar problems with other devices20:14
VDVsxbut reflash normally fix that, if it's not HW failure20:15
VDVsxandre__, ah, so the problem has found20:16
newdaywhat you mean bat factory flash / both on NSU and website files for flasher, that doesn't seems to be the problem i think20:16
VDVsxnewday, I meant the images flashed in the factory20:17
VDVsxproblems sometimes occur20:17
VDVsxbut if you flashed by yourself the problem is other20:17
newdaynothing besides hardware will be a problem in this case20:19
newdayunless any suggestion ?20:19
VDVsxdunno, I don't have access to the internal ticket :D20:21
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newdayhope something come up shortly to fix this if not the best action for me is to send device back for replacement20:26
VDVsxnewday, well it's a malfunction, so you can ask for a replacement20:27
andre__VDVsx, not found, but reproduced.20:27
andre__no, there's no suggestions...20:27
VDVsxandre__, reproduced or there's more people having this issue ?20:30
VDVsxie, can I make something to experience that ?20:30
newdayooo! just have had another reboot lol :)20:30
andre__VDVsx, definitely two people, maybe more20:51
newdayVDVsx, you can swap device with me :)21:03
VDVsxnewday, lol, you don't want my device :P21:03
VDVsx1. is not mine, so can do that :p21:04
VDVsx*can't21:04
* VDVsx still has a proto :)21:04
andre__uh21:22
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