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| zbenjamin | hello @ all | 16:41 |
| zbenjamin | i want reset my Nokia N9 to factory default because there is Nemo installed on it. But i cannot find a moslo image anymore | 16:42 |
| zbenjamin | is there a place where i can get those images? | 16:42 |
| marxistvegan | zbenjamin: you mean this http://www.mrcrab.net/nokia/Nokia_N9.html?productID=4823499691&productType=RM-696 | 16:55 |
| zbenjamin | marxistvegan: ah nice | 16:56 |
| zbenjamin | marxistvegan: which images do i need it i also want to get the original moslo/rootfs back? | 16:56 |
| zbenjamin | marxistvegan: that is the list for my device http://www.mrcrab.net/nokia/Nokia_N9.html?productID=4823499691&productType=RM-696&releaseID=7048842309&variantID=7076942645&productCode=059K0Z2&version=40.2012.21.3 | 16:56 |
| marxistvegan | zbenjamin: not sure depends on where the phone is geographically coded | 16:56 |
| zbenjamin | germany | 16:57 |
| marxistvegan | zbenjamin: don't tell me it matters which of those you download | 16:59 |
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| auenf | you need to lookup the code in the sim tray dont you? | 17:09 |
| marxistvegan | auenf: yes that too | 17:16 |
| marxistvegan | zbenjamin: sorry I am distracted, but there maemo.org has the instructions somewhere | 17:16 |
| coderus | flasher -F ape.bin --no-preserve -f -R | 17:17 |
| zbenjamin | auenf: code? | 17:17 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: heya, do you know if there is a working whatsapp client for the n9 ? | 17:19 |
| zbenjamin | great i downloaded the wrong one oO | 17:21 |
| zbenjamin | auenf: thx for the hint with the code | 17:22 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: it will be one in a mont or so: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93976&goto=newpost | 19:27 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: ok, openwhatsapp is broken? | 19:35 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: ever considered a whatsapp client for ubuntu phone as well? | 19:35 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: yes for ubuntu phone probably will be too | 22:38 |
| coderus | but ubuntu-sdk is quite useless now | 22:39 |
| coderus | and yes, openwhatsapp is very old and not maintaining anymore | 22:41 |
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| zbenjamin | coderus: whats the problem with the ubuntu sdk? | 23:05 |
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| M4rtinK | I've heard some crazy things recently about ubuntu phone | 23:29 |
| M4rtinK | like that they don't have real multitasking | 23:29 |
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| coderus | zbenjamin: 1. no qmake in qtcreator | 23:36 |
| zbenjamin | M4rtinK: apps that are not in foreground are sigsropped | 23:36 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: 2. qtcreator loosing emulator | 23:37 |
| coderus | these two are stopping me atm. | 23:37 |
| coderus | i wanted to start porting mitakuuluu to upuntu phone, but decided to wait | 23:37 |
| coderus | sdk is not ready | 23:38 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: i'm working on the SDK ;), do you use that ppa? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 23:38 |
| coderus | even Jolla more younger have much better sdk with great emulator experience | 23:38 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: yes | 23:38 |
| coderus | first i waited about month for this adb password bug to be fixes | 23:39 |
| coderus | fixed* | 23:39 |
| coderus | now i'm getting errors when trying to deploy examples app to emulator | 23:39 |
| coderus | it's all over my patience | 23:39 |
| M4rtinK | coderus: well, that so sad it is funny! :P | 23:39 |
| coderus | i'll try again when normal developers can use it without tricks | 23:39 |
| M4rtinK | considering how long the Ubuntu touch/phone development has been going | 23:40 |
| M4rtinK | that's really bad | 23:40 |
| coderus | exactly | 23:40 |
| coderus | i know what probably Jolla team more mature than young canonical developers | 23:40 |
| coderus | but still | 23:40 |
| coderus | that is not acceptable | 23:41 |
| M4rtinK | could be also NIH | 23:41 |
| coderus | i mean sdk developes, not team itself or something | 23:41 |
| M4rtinK | from what I've heard its quite brutal NiH at Canonical | 23:41 |
| M4rtinK | even long ago they had tons of patched libraries | 23:41 |
| M4rtinK | big of of tree patches everywhere | 23:42 |
| M4rtinK | *out of tree | 23:42 |
| zbenjamin | like no other distribution has its own patches? | 23:42 |
| zbenjamin | from what i see is that upstreaming work is done, but the distribution moves faster so things pile up | 23:43 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: do you suggest me to try again and contact you with bugs i'm getting? :) | 23:43 |
| M4rtinK | sure, OpenSUSE has patches distutils so you can't reuse their Python module packaging in most cases | 23:43 |
| M4rtinK | *patched | 23:43 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: sure, since i'm currently the only developer working on that you can directly contact me. | 23:44 |
| M4rtinK | but AFAIK Unity is almost unportable due to all the patched libraries it expects | 23:44 |
| M4rtinK | but my information could be outdated | 23:44 |
| M4rtinK | zbenjamin: any plans for supporting PyOtherSide ? | 23:45 |
| M4rtinK | zbenjamin: http://pyotherside.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 23:45 |
| M4rtinK | could be a nice alternative to C++ only development | 23:45 |
| zbenjamin | M4rtinK: not that i know of, but if its a library you could ship it in your application package. | 23:46 |
| zbenjamin | M4rtinK: currently i work on convincing people that we should have proper sysroot and maybe qmake support. | 23:46 |
| M4rtinK | zbenjamin: sure, it should be possible to bundle it | 23:46 |
| M4rtinK | zbenjamin: on the other hand, having in present by default would make it easier to use it for developers & would make the packages using it smaller :) | 23:47 |
| zbenjamin | M4rtinK: i know that go support is planned but thats more a tech preview , not something useable atm | 23:47 |
| zbenjamin | M4rtinK: i know | 23:47 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: okay, first of all i need to know one thing: what wrong with qmake!? | 23:48 |
| M4rtinK | wow, black background - scary! :D | 23:48 |
| zbenjamin | M4rtinK: well probably its on the phone (i did not check) but if its not part of the official framework you can never be sure the next update will still have it | 23:48 |
| M4rtinK | zbenjamin: that's why I'm asking :) | 23:49 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: i asked the same question, the word was that it does not support proper cross platform compiling and that cmake is the way to go | 23:49 |
| M4rtinK | or to be more precise, proposing it as an idea or potential inclusion :) | 23:49 |
| M4rtinK | LOL | 23:49 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: i come from a pure Qt background so i know what most of the Qt community thinks about cmake ;) | 23:50 |
| coderus | zbenjamin: then you need to provide guide to switch existing project to cmake | 23:50 |
| coderus | i think nothing about cmake because i not used it in my projects | 23:50 |
| M4rtinK | ...and that's wha I'm using Python & QtQuick - I don't have to care about compiling anything most of the time :D | 23:51 |
| zbenjamin | coderus: documentation is currently worked on, not sure about a conversion guide but i will suggest to create one | 23:53 |
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