| HtheB | like, 2 days ago? | 00:00 |
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| HtheB | and everytime before that :D | 00:00 |
| Jonni | well then some package has broken the filesystem, and its time to reflash with --erase-user-data=secure :) | 00:00 |
| HtheB | boo | 00:00 |
| HtheB | i was just done with everything... | 00:00 |
| HtheB | as you may recall it :D | 00:01 |
| tehdely | HtheB: the last time i ran into that problem | 00:01 |
| tehdely | it turned out i was out of inodes on one of my filesystems | 00:01 |
| tehdely | in fact, it's happened to me 2x | 00:01 |
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| tehdely | it breaks lots of things, but in particular the camera... i saw, by running the camera app from a shell and looking at what errors got thrown | 00:02 |
| tehdely | lots of "no space left on device" | 00:02 |
| tehdely | run 'df -i' | 00:02 |
| HtheB | the only output that I get is: | 00:02 |
| tehdely | the problem is that /home is sort of under-provisioned. harmattan puts lots of stuff in /home that really oughta live in /home/user/MyDocs | 00:02 |
| HtheB | MApplication Service: registerService() registering failed | 00:02 |
| tehdely | that might be something else | 00:03 |
| HtheB | MApplicationService: Calling launc() in other application with service : "com.nokia.maemo.CameraService" | 00:03 |
| HtheB | launch* | 00:03 |
| tehdely | and how's your filesystems looking | 00:03 |
| HtheB | looks normal to me, let me put it on pastebin | 00:04 |
| tehdely | kk | 00:05 |
| HtheB | www.pastebin.com/7Zxsa8Vi | 00:05 |
| tehdely | k you definitely don't have the problem I was having, then :/ | 00:06 |
| HtheB | :( | 00:07 |
| tehdely | somewhere, there is an un-answered mailing list post by a person with your exact problem | 00:08 |
| tehdely | heh | 00:08 |
| Jonni | is that N9 or N950? | 00:08 |
| HtheB | 950 | 00:08 |
| Jonni | and normal firmware or openmode? | 00:09 |
| HtheB | open | 00:09 |
| HtheB | with ubiboot | 00:09 |
| Jonni | just thinking if you have PR1.2 filesystem and PR1.3 kernel? | 00:09 |
| Jonni | or did you flash the leaked PR1.3 filesystem? | 00:09 |
| HtheB | leaked yeah | 00:09 |
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| HtheB | so that shouldnt be the problem | 00:09 |
| HtheB | didnt had the problem before | 00:09 |
| HtheB | somehow, today I just found out about it | 00:09 |
| Jonni | and you havent installed any custom deb packages while beeing in openmode? Or if you have you have always used the mandatory AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN export before installing? | 00:10 |
| HtheB | yesterday, I did put some .so files in /usr/lib/ | 00:11 |
| HtheB | manually | 00:11 |
| Jonni | just thinging if you have installed any custom servives without using the export, then aegis will prevent system camera from working | 00:11 |
| Jonni | HtheB: most likely those so files breaks it | 00:11 |
| HtheB | I did remove them back though | 00:11 |
| Jonni | since if you put any .so file in usr/lib manually, then you also need to update refhashlist and resign it | 00:12 |
| HtheB | hmmm | 00:12 |
| HtheB | but after removing manually, it shouldnt be a problem anymore, right? | 00:12 |
| HtheB | or.. am I alraedy late?! :D | 00:12 |
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| Jonni | ie. if you put unknown origin .so files in system that has com.nokia.maemo files, then aegis will go mad. Adding custom libraries should always be done in a way that they are faked to be com.nokia.maemo origin | 00:13 |
| Jonni | well without seeing the dmesg aegis errors, I have no idea if your late or not, but it sure does sound like reflash time. Or if your lucky reboot might be enough if there is no custom service files or libs in the system anymore | 00:14 |
| HtheB | rebooted many times already | 00:15 |
| HtheB | :P | 00:15 |
| HtheB | so that 'luck' is no more | 00:15 |
| Jonni | well if you dont see any aegis errors in dmesg, then its reflash time | 00:15 |
| HtheB | lets see dmesg | 00:18 |
| Jonni | might be just enough to do --flash-only=rootfs, that way you stay in openmode, but have factory rootfs | 00:18 |
| HtheB | hmm how about the apps? | 00:18 |
| Jonni | gone :) | 00:18 |
| HtheB | lol | 00:18 |
| HtheB | :D | 00:19 |
| HtheB | then there is no reason to do only rootfs | 00:19 |
| Jonni | thats why I have big dir of debs, and I just do dpkg -i *.deb after the reflash :) | 00:19 |
| juiceme | Jonni, ping | 00:19 |
| Jonni | juiceme: pong | 00:19 |
| HtheB | Jonni: jup, have it too since the last time | 00:19 |
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| juiceme | Jonni, I was thinking about this flashing kernel from a deb package some time back... | 00:20 |
| juiceme | have you ever done that? | 00:20 |
| juiceme | can I use /usr/sbin/fiasco-flasher for that? | 00:21 |
| HtheB | Jonni: dmesg output http://pastebin.com/bkYRmKLL | 00:22 |
| Jonni | juiceme: hmm, yes, I've played with that, but most likely those datails might go under NDA, so unfortunatly can't help you on that. | 00:25 |
| Jonni | HtheB: nothing in that log, you did try to start camera app, before taking the dmesg? | 00:28 |
| HtheB | hmm yes | 00:28 |
| HtheB | start and closed it back | 00:28 |
| HtheB | then dmesg | 00:28 |
| HtheB | or should i minimize it? | 00:28 |
| juiceme | Jonni, that's too bad then :( see, I was thinking about packaging ubiboot to deb, because as for version -02 now, its fairly safe to install... | 00:29 |
| HtheB | aha, i see some errors! | 00:30 |
| juiceme | HtheB, I also looked at your paste, and usually there should be something about the camera I guess. | 00:30 |
| HtheB | maybe i was too fast | 00:30 |
| HtheB | had to wait a bit before dmesg | 00:30 |
| juiceme | can you check what's in /var/log/messages ? | 00:30 |
| HtheB | i see some errors this time on dmesg | 00:31 |
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| HtheB | uploading on pastebin agian hang on | 00:32 |
| HtheB | oh wait no | 00:33 |
| HtheB | seems like when I cat the file, to copy text.. it was acting weird | 00:34 |
| HtheB | so i saw those error messages ¬¬ | 00:34 |
| HtheB | but there is nothing different on the dmesg | 00:34 |
| juiceme | dmesg records mainly kernel thingies. | 00:34 |
| HtheB | juiceme: what log do you need | 00:35 |
| HtheB | i have: | 00:35 |
| juiceme | a lot of more stuff, daemons, applications, etc. get logged to messages. | 00:35 |
| juiceme | but as I said, I don't know much about the camera side... | 00:36 |
| HtheB | Xorg.0.log.0.gz Xorg.0.log.1.gz Xorg.0.log.2.gz Xorg.0.log.3.gz Xorg.0.log.4.gz alternatives.log apt dpkg.log pareplysms.log pasms.log syslog syslog.old ubiboot.dmesg ubiboot.log | 00:36 |
| juiceme | it's the sysylog you want to see. | 00:36 |
| juiceme | s/sysylog/syslog | 00:36 |
| Jonni | just consider that reflash and dpkg -i *.deb takes 10 minutes, and debugging can take hours :) | 00:38 |
| HtheB | oke | 00:39 |
| HtheB | Jonni: true :) | 00:39 |
| HtheB | but it could be handy for people who also has the same problem as I do | 00:40 |
| HtheB | if we can hunt down what the problem might be | 00:40 |
| Jonni | ofcourse you could do grep aegis /var/log/* to see if there is any hits | 00:40 |
| HtheB | as root? | 00:40 |
| juiceme | Jonni, trying "/usr/sbin/fiasco-flasher -?" gives awfully same looking options as the regular flasher likes to get, so can it really be NDA stuff if it is analogous to the external flasher...? | 00:41 |
| Jonni | HtheB: and you havent installed any deb packages without AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN? | 00:41 |
| Jonni | as that is the most common problem that people forget to export when installing stuff in openmode. | 00:42 |
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| HtheB | only 1 | 00:42 |
| HtheB | oh w8 | 00:42 |
| HtheB | uhmmm | 00:43 |
| juiceme | Jonni, if I try some experimenting with fiasco-flasher, do you think it's possible I brick my device to a state not possible to fix with reflash? Just making sure before I try anything :) | 00:47 |
| Jonni | most likely you can always recover with reflash, so I havent heard anyone ever bricking the device with that | 00:47 |
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| juiceme | that's good to know. Maybe I'll do some experiments with it then | 00:50 |
| juiceme | I guess that's how the OTA update flashes the new kernel? | 00:50 |
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| rikanee | juiceme: warning: you can't flash on-device in Open Mode | 01:04 |
| Jonni | rikanee: why not? you should even be able to dd the kernel into kernel partition if fiasco flasher doesnt work :) | 01:07 |
| rikanee | Jonni: wear leveling is a problem ;) | 01:07 |
| juiceme | rikanee, I was under the assumption that kernel is flashed "on-the-metal", that there's no wear leveling blocks as it sits there on bare flash, no ubifs etc... | 01:10 |
| rikanee | juiceme: Flasher/NOLO takes care of wear-leveling as it writes, hence the kernel partition being slightly bigger than the usual kernel. | 01:11 |
| juiceme | and how would it be different when I flas with external flasher vs. internal flasher? | 01:11 |
| juiceme | does it somehow do it without NOLO? | 01:12 |
| rikanee | juiceme: internal, on-device flasher apparently rejects flashing if in openmode | 01:12 |
| juiceme | ah, you have tried it? | 01:12 |
| rikanee | juiceme: you can read about it in the Openmode thread, that's why SSU in OM fails | 01:12 |
| rikanee | kernel and CMT can't be updated | 01:12 |
| juiceme | ok, I'll look it up, thanks | 01:13 |
| juiceme | too bad if it's like that | 01:13 |
| rikanee | juiceme: I think that in Harmattan, Linux kernel is now involved in kernel flashing, which is why you need to select an ape-algo | 01:13 |
| Jonni | but your dep backage would be in secure mode install anyways :) | 01:13 |
| juiceme | well I was thinking of the device should be taken to open moda bedore installing the deb. | 01:14 |
| juiceme | but why not... | 01:14 |
| juiceme | could be amde so that it needs to be installed in closed mode and it triggers open mode when installed :) | 01:14 |
| rikanee | juiceme, btw, I got a "Charge Battery" error while starting HARM with +L2fix (once), so maybe some tweaking is still in order | 01:14 |
| juiceme | s/amde/made/ | 01:15 |
| infobot | juiceme meant: could be made so that it needs to be installed in closed mode and it triggers open mode when installed :) | 01:15 |
| juiceme | rikanee, ah it' still not perfect... but the percenatge ratio is _much_ better :) | 01:15 |
| rikanee | juiceme: you could have the user activate dev-mode, and use the package's postinst to both clear the warranty warning and flash the kernel in closed mode | 01:15 |
| juiceme | yes, that's doable. | 01:16 |
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| juiceme | originally I thought it's something I cluld never release as package, it depended on so many tweaks like the possibility of not being able to use mtd4 or mtd5 due to eraserblock shortage... but currently there are no such roadblocks any more. | 01:18 |
| juiceme | of course it's a bit limiting if the installation is not possible in open mode but it might still be worth a try :) | 01:19 |
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| Morpog_PC | sure, sun zombies | 22:12 |
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