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louisdkIs there a way to start/restart the ssh deamon in harmattan in the command line. Nothing in /etc/init.d and there is no service command.17:25
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ladogastop ssh / start ssh17:43
Jonnilouisdk: yes easy, "initctl start ssh" and "initctl restart ssh"17:44
ladogaas "root"17:44
Jonnior short versions would just use start and restart17:44
louisdkThanks17:44
ladogaah restart works too, thanks17:45
Jonnirestart only as initctl parameter17:45
ladogaok, tried and noticed sh: restart not found17:46
louisdkstart not found / initctl ont ofund. I'm root but not in dev mode.17:52
ladoga /sbin not in your path?17:52
ladogatry /sbin/stop ssh then17:53
louisdkWorks fine. Thanks.17:55
ladogaand maybe it's useful add /sbin etc. to your path for future17:56
louisdkI do. When using commands like reboot.17:57
louisdkFunny thing. When I run "/sbin/initctl restart ssh" I get this output: initctl: Name "com.ubuntu.Upstart" does not exist17:58
ladogaI'm not sure i understand? What do you mean when17:58
louisdkWhat has ubuntu/upstart to do with harmattan?17:58
ladogai mean to add path to /root/.profile so you don't need to type it17:58
ladogasomething like PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X1117:58
louisdkNice thanks17:59
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ladogaupstart was originally written by some canonical employee18:07
louisdkAnd I see Harmattan uses upstart but funny error anyway.18:08
ladogado you ssh in as root?18:08
ladogai think that message has something do with insufficent priviledges18:10
louisdkYes and it works now.18:10
ladogamaybe connect as user and elevate with devel-su18:10
ladogathat way everything works fine (for me atleast)18:10
ladogaand somewhat more secure too18:10
louisdkSame here.18:11
* ladoga has root login disabled and key based auth18:11
* louisdk should also disable passwd login and use key auth only as on my computers.18:21
ladogaheh..i just noticed something funny18:22
ladogaremember some website you visited after last reboot?18:23
louisdkand what about them? :)18:23
ladogatry "cat /dev/ram* | strings | grep <insert part of url address here>18:24
ladoga"18:24
ladogaor insert whatever18:24
ladogacat /dev/ram* | strings | grep Microsoft18:25
ladogaseems like there's full access to read contents of ram18:25
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ladogaso i can even grep my IM messages18:27
louisdkI get "sh: strings: not found" and I am root.18:29
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ladoga~ # which strings18:30
ladoga/usr/bin/strings18:30
louisdkyearh okay ;)18:30
louisdkYou just have to remember that not everything is symlinked in Harmattan ;)18:30
ladogait's not about symlinks i think?18:31
ladogawhat are contents of your $PATH variable?18:31
louisdkIn say Ubuntu/Debian you can type ifconfig, reboot etc. without the full path ex /sbin.18:32
ladogaand in harmattan too18:32
ladogait's because you set those things in PATH variable18:32
louisdkYearh okay.18:33
ladogaso every directory included in it is looked for executables18:33
ladogafor some reason you have it lacking18:33
ladogatype18:33
ladogaecho $PATH18:33
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ladoga~ # echo $PATH18:34
ladoga/home/user/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X1118:34
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ladogai think for devel-su it's set either in /etc/profile or /root/.profile18:35
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ladogafor reference i'll post mine...18:40
ladoga/root/.profile http://paste.debian.net/6309/18:40
ladoga/etc/profile http://paste.debian.net/6311/18:42
ladogaone in /etc is system wide so those also work for your user account18:43
ladogayou have to login again for changes to take effect18:44
louisdkThanks ladeoga :)18:45
ladogathen it should work as you are used to in ubuntu (i think debian as default doesnt have /sbin for other than root) so changing that is first thing i do :)18:46
ladoganp18:46
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